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Speaker 4: whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today

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Speaker 4: with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back with

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Speaker 4: Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeoman, So glad you're with us.

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Speaker 4: We are gonna hit plenty of the story lines and

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Speaker 4: reaction off the West Coast. That Super Bowl sixty is

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Speaker 4: now in the book and we are fully into the

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Speaker 4: off season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we can start talking.

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Speaker 6: Oh you know it's some team out of Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to your city. It's all good man, y'all. Are

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Speaker 3: you gonna go to the parade?

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Speaker 6: No, everybody in my in my friend chat, they're all going.

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Speaker 3: They're all gone. Yeah, when is it? Is it today

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Speaker 3: or tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I know my brother wherever. My brother's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm flying up, bro, like go have fuck, get after it.

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Speaker 2: I've been blessed to be in a parade.

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Speaker 3: One Stephen Winter's food.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you being in the par saying though

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Speaker 2: being in the parade was absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh do you remember most of that?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I remember all of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping that it's all.

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Speaker 2: My hard drive still because I had all my old

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Speaker 2: video footage from it, floppy disk. Bro looking up like

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Speaker 2: especially like in New York. Obviously, sure it was insane.

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Speaker 2: The building of skyscrapers is paper just flying out like

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Speaker 2: howardy people even like looking out the window that high

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Speaker 2: up and it just like it looked like confetti, obviously,

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Speaker 2: but people just throwing stuff out, the ripped papers, fans everywhere,

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Speaker 2: millions of people.

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Speaker 6: It was insane. And then some day Kyle, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully real nice to see some of that here in

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Speaker 4: They would have to shut down. I mean, just think

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Speaker 4: about it. Just I know fans are like, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to think about it. It's been thirty years. I

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Speaker 4: get it, I get it. But because of that weight,

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Speaker 4: and because of the way that the star and the

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Speaker 4: brand and everything is grown to what it is now,

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Speaker 4: could you imagine them having they would have to shut

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Speaker 4: down the toll way and just use the toll way

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Speaker 4: to go from Frisco to Dallas then to Arlington, and

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Speaker 4: then they would fill the state.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it would be what would be that one real?

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Speaker 6: That's actually perfect.

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Speaker 7: You might have to shut down DNT and you just

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Speaker 7: let that be from Frisco all the way down and

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Speaker 7: then you know, just thirty five down.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hear about the other team. But the

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Speaker 2: other team that I was on when we won, we

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Speaker 2: did the parade right, So we did the parade route,

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Speaker 2: which was absolutely insane. After we finished the parade route,

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Speaker 2: we actually stopped at the I don't know what's city

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Speaker 2: we're down downtown. We get the key to the city.

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Speaker 2: So we're sitting down, we're chilling. Snipers are everywhere, Yeah, bro,

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Speaker 2: We're in the buses and we drive to the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Like the whole day felt like a movie. But the

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Speaker 2: So in the future, you know, Cowboys Nation, hopefully when

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well that they will feel a little emptier now, guys,

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Speaker 8: I know, because we lost one Missus Price.

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Speaker 3: Yes sucks man, or maybe you brought that up.

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Speaker 8: I really did want to do a quick shout out

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Speaker 8: there is no doubt about it. You have seen her,

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Speaker 8: You've heard her, You've heard her one hundred percent. We

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Speaker 8: to keep that as a part of get your Popcorn ready,

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Speaker 8: show nice at infinite.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Like I as a fan to see a fan that

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Speaker 8: a fan forever, right, but seeing her at every game

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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, just a huge loss and shouts to

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Speaker 6: She's just the sweetest thing.

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Speaker 7: Just if you've ever had the pleasure of coming across

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Speaker 7: she travels to Oxnard and we'll see her at training camp,

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Speaker 7: you just couldn't meet a bigger hearted, just sweetie.

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Speaker 6: She was just the sweetest thing.

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Speaker 7: Of course, when you know during the practices and when

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Speaker 7: she gets in that moment.

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Speaker 6: Between places, she's just oh, sweetheart, how you doing? Just

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Speaker 4: She she was a stranger to nobody. No, he knew everybody.

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Speaker 4: She talked to everybody. She knew everybody by name, to

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Speaker 4: every player on the sideline. Not even oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: She knew everyone.

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Speaker 4: I walk up there and I'm not on the sideline

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Speaker 3: For the preseason.

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Speaker 4: She knew my name every single time, from like the

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Speaker 4: first time I was on the sideline, I was like,

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Speaker 4: miss Price knows my name. I was starstruck by her

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Speaker 4: knowing who I was at that point. And that just

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Speaker 4: encompasses what she meant to this organization, what she meant

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Speaker 4: as a fan, true fan of the year. We talk

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Speaker 4: about the Captain Morgan Fan of the Year. She could

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Speaker 4: have won it every single year.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it.

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Speaker 8: Would have been Redundan if she won it every single year,

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Speaker 2: I could tell you, guys this, and this is no

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Speaker 2: for practice, especially like training camp, right, you hear you

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Speaker 2: hear it all the fans, right, so, but you have

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Speaker 2: gotta go work. I could tell you personally all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: it's you're you're grateful for it, but it's noise right

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Speaker 6: If you hear.

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Speaker 2: Missus Price's Miss Price's voice, you stop and you turn

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Speaker 2: You'll give her a hug, you give her some love,

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you, guys, I don't have any

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure I have a picture of her.

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Speaker 2: But like guys like Brady James and others that I've

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Speaker 2: seen that have already posted pictures today, like, that's what

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Speaker 2: she means and meant to everybody who is a part

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Speaker 6: There it is.

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Speaker 3: She was the best.

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Speaker 4: And condolences to her family, Condolences to everybody that was

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Speaker 4: impacted by her. We're gonna miss miss Price and she

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Speaker 4: is h I hope they saved that spot. She stood

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Speaker 3: I hope they saved that spot that belongs to her. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: They're doing construction on the stadium in that area right

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Speaker 4: now for the World Cup, and then they're gonna tear

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Speaker 3: Anyways, when they tear it down, just block that spot off.

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Speaker 3: That is that is missus.

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Speaker 4: Price's spot forever and it needs to stay that for

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Speaker 6: She had the voice where it's like, you're almost in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, you outside playing, you know,

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Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta.

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Speaker 3: U the best? All right?

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl was last or the two nights ago. I

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Speaker 4: almost said last night, but yeah, we had a day

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about some.

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Speaker 4: Of the the the ways that we can learn from

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Speaker 4: this Super Bowl. We tend to do that every year,

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Speaker 4: but this year I feel like there are some specific

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Speaker 4: instances where the Cowboys could learn from how the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: and the Patriots both got to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 4: how the Seahawks ultimately won the Super Bowl. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: news and notes to hit because there are a lot

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Speaker 4: of different storylines and impact pieces over the last week

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Speaker 4: that we never got the chance.

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Speaker 7: The season is over, right, never First of all, everybody

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Speaker 7: zero and zero right now?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so running back, there's only one defending champion running back.

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Speaker 6: There were thirty one fielures there.

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Speaker 7: It is so first and foremost, let's just talk about

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Speaker 7: how the Cowboys will have their first international game play

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Speaker 7: in years, and it will Yeah, we'll mark the first

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Speaker 7: time in franchise history the Cowboys will take the field

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Speaker 7: for football game in real.

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Speaker 4: Probably can we can we take talking Cowboys on the road, Derek,

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Speaker 8: Someone give him the.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be enjoyable. I'm implying. I'm applying to

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Speaker 7: That is their goal, because he is not the one

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Speaker 6: I want to talk what you do, but not right now.

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Speaker 7: That being said, George Pickens that is in line for

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Speaker 7: Well, I will tell you that this time around, there

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Speaker 7: Now you should because that's not the formula for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: The headline before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They're expected to tag George Pickens.

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Speaker 7: We've said this, we need this time and again, and

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Speaker 6: Will a deal get done too many moving factors.

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Speaker 8: Entirely, that's the one thing is expect the tag, Expect

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you're looking at, guys.

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Speaker 3: That would be the second.

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Speaker 6: And when I say collapse, I.

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Speaker 7: Parsons end before the NFL Draft, Because I think that

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Speaker 7: So when you look at the timeline, I mean, we're

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Speaker 7: When it comes to George Pickens, I.

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Speaker 6: Want him here.

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Speaker 7: I want him here for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 7: He didn't say that, but it felt that way. And

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Speaker 7: George Pickens wants to be here. Dak Prescott wants George

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Speaker 6: Because that's a team thing, different thing, different thing.

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Speaker 7: He'd be willing to rework his contract to keep George

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Speaker 6: He wants them to stay together in Dallas.

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Speaker 8: Patrick does he walkers.

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Speaker 7: Everybody is on board on all sides. Now, it's just

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Speaker 4: Do we believe CD when he says that, yes, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm just.

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Speaker 8: I don't have any reason not to believe Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 7: Look at the relationship between those two guys from minute

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Speaker 4: But it's just howardless he was once the next next

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Speaker 2: Do I think that he would feel some type of

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Speaker 2: He also he understands the business, the nature of this business,

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Speaker 2: It's just how it goes. It's not an indictment on

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Speaker 6: The market is the market, Rick is the market.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 8: That's what you got to pay for.

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Speaker 4: And that's what happened this year. Yeah, and that George

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Speaker 4: It was the situation he was put in. But he

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Speaker 4: The highest conversation that I heard from other people around

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Speaker 4: those that are comparing into the Mica situation. This is

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Speaker 4: not the Mica situation. I know it's the same agent.

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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of conversation there. This is

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Speaker 4: not the same conversation and.

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Speaker 8: Everything that we've talked about about rebuilding the defense and

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Speaker 8: rebuilding the team for next year to hopefully get into

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Speaker 8: the playoffs. And get further into the playoffs and actually

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Speaker 8: could be competing for a championship. One of those things

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Speaker 8: is like, let's improve on what the offense is this year. Yes,

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Speaker 8: if you remove George Pickens from that equation, you do

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Speaker 8: not have as good of an offense. Simply that, No,

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Speaker 8: you don't have the same weapons that you have. And

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Speaker 8: George Pickens definitely contributed a large part to the growth

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Speaker 8: of the offense this season because it wasn't just CD Lane.

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Speaker 7: You get worse. And there's no bigger fan of Ryan

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Speaker 7: Flinoy than me. And at the same time, it's also

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Speaker 7: true that as we have this conversation, Ryan Flannoy and

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Speaker 7: George Pickens are not the same players. So to your point,

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Speaker 7: if George Pickens is not on this roster, not to

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Speaker 7: say the offense suddenly won't be good, but it takes

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Speaker 7: a step back, and a pretty sizable one, especially when

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Speaker 7: you look at from an assurance standpoint. You lost CD

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Speaker 7: Lamp for several games to injury last year. That was

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Speaker 7: as Ryan Flinoy was developing, and it was George Pickens

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Speaker 7: who stepped up in their role. Without George Pickens, it's

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Speaker 7: Ryan annoyed being asked to develop faster, and then who's

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Speaker 7: your two? If Ceedee Lamb is not on the field

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Speaker 7: to the injury, y isn't in the building, it would

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Speaker 7: have been jay Lon Tober.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: And the only reason I could the only reason I

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Speaker 8: consider this is if they move the number of picks

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Speaker 8: all I don't like that, all sorts of that. I'm all,

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Speaker 8: we got all sorts of players everything. Just give me

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Speaker 8: a whole eleven. The trade deadline is what end up

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Speaker 8: looking like. I'm good, keep it to what it is,

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Speaker 8: all right?

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Speaker 4: When we come back, Seattle wins the Super Bowl twenty

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Speaker 4: nine thirteen over the New England Patriots. What did we

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Speaker 4: learn and what can Cowboys improve upon? Part of it

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Speaker 4: is what Josh just talked about. How did Seattle get

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Speaker 4: to that point and do the same thing, but just

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Speaker 4: I make at home in the morning. No, just black, No,

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Speaker 4: just this one. Sorry, that's your uh, you're you're a

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Speaker 4: daily coffee drinker.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely okay.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you this even though you bought

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Speaker 4: it for me once before.

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Speaker 4: and Eddie. It's got the Cowboys star on one side,

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Speaker 4: it's got the Black Rifle coffee symbol on the other side.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give this to the two not so much coffee.

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Speaker 4: I've got another coming. I did ask them. They said

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Speaker 4: they said that there was another one on its way.

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Speaker 3: So I got it.

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Speaker 6: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, Josh, but it'll it'll be here. I promise.

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Speaker 3: This is like twelve ounces. Fu It's pretty.

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Speaker 8: Privilege at its best.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be like twelve ounces.

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Speaker 6: This is a sizeable, sizable cup here. This is fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Halftime, Oh, which was great, it was awesome, amazing.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the Super Bowl a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Suther, this guy sticks, man.

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Speaker 6: I think it's fine.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty sweet. I'm sorry, Josh, are you coming? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: When you put coffee in that, buddy, I promise you'll

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Speaker 8: get one soon.

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Speaker 6: Hot talckey time, hot tcky.

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Speaker 3: It'll be good at the desk.

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Speaker 8: My nickname in high school.

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Speaker 3: You go all right.

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Speaker 4: Seattle wins twenty nine thirteen over New England. It was

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Speaker 4: a dominant performance and oh my goodness, Seahawks just took

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Speaker 4: care of business. They go through the Dauntlin in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: They get it done, all predicated off of defense.

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Speaker 2: Can we say real quick, yes, congratulations to former Cowboys yep, yes,

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Speaker 2: talking about d law yep and.

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Speaker 6: Adam Dirty yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: Seriously congratulations, Like I know this is diehard cowboy, you

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Speaker 2: know obviously that is what it is. But respect to

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Speaker 2: those that are willing to move on right, grateful for

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Speaker 2: where you've been. It's not easy to go reinvent yourself.

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Speaker 2: Is not easy to step out of your comfort zone

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Speaker 2: and then go have success. So congratulations to those guys

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Speaker 2: for getting to where they got and doing what they did,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for your time and doubts.

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Speaker 3: Ye I put a tweet out there saying the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Why would you tweet that yeah, you give me the

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Speaker 4: funny backup that people didn't understand either. But those are

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Speaker 4: two of the guys that I enjoyed covering the most

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Speaker 4: while they were here, because they're both genuine, genuine human beings.

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Speaker 4: First off, I even knew d Law from when I

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Speaker 4: was an intern back in twenty sixteen, in the early

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Speaker 4: years of him working up in my not even on

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Speaker 4: air side of things, and he was always verys with

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Speaker 4: his time. He was always very generous with the media.

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Speaker 4: He was always one of those guys. And then at

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Speaker 4: and Dirty was just salt of the earth, grinded out

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Speaker 4: sort of just smart football but even better person sort

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Speaker 4: of guys. And so I am genuinely happy for them,

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Speaker 4: I really am. And seeing the pictures of Adam Dirty

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Speaker 4: with the the what's the Union.

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Speaker 3: Jack or not the Union jack?

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Speaker 4: What is the British flag whatever, great Britain's flag, there's

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Speaker 4: a name for it. He had it draped over himself

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Speaker 4: and with the Lombardi Trophy. It made me emotional for him.

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy for his journey and what he got

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Speaker 4: to this point.

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Speaker 2: So happy and gratulation in respect to d Law about

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Speaker 2: how he's handled these interviews, like I feel like he's

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Speaker 2: been super respectful, crazy professional like professional like literally like

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Speaker 2: this is like how you do it, this is how

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Speaker 2: you operate. He went about this. He could have said

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Speaker 2: some crazy stuff if he wanted to. Some of the

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Speaker 2: questions he was being asked.

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Speaker 8: Arguably rubbed people the wrong way when he left.

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Speaker 2: Allis absolutely when he made the statement that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel as if he's gonna win a super Bowl here

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Speaker 2: in Dallas, and he said, that's why I'm going to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: That was his decision, and he called the shot, and

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Speaker 2: he called his shot. It was It wasn't a hey,

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Speaker 2: Dallas is never going to win one. He's I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna win one in Dallas. So that's how he felt.

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Speaker 2: He's in charge of his career. So if you took

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Speaker 2: that personally, that's on you. He made a personal decision

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Speaker 2: for him and it panned out. He had a vision

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Speaker 2: for himself. He executed that vision and it worked. Kudos

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Speaker 2: to him. And in the process, not one time did

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Speaker 2: he defile the freaking Cowboys, and he had plenty of

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Speaker 2: opportunities to do so.

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Speaker 6: Even after he won the.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they asked him about that, he said, that's

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Speaker 2: that's behind me.

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Speaker 8: That's like he did disrespectful honestly to ask him about

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys after you.

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Speaker 6: Bating. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He was a professional through it all.

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Speaker 2: So leading up to the Super Bowl, he asked a

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Speaker 2: thousand times about it, and especially specifically about that particular

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Speaker 2: statement that he made in reference to not winning a

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Speaker 2: super Bowl here in Dallas and not going to And

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Speaker 2: then even after he won the Super Bowl, one of

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Speaker 2: the first questions they ask him is about Dallas, and

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Speaker 2: he stayed true, respectful through it.

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Speaker 6: Also like, kudos, that's not easy.

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Speaker 2: It's not freaking easy in this world where there's freaking

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Speaker 2: clickbait and everybody's trying to get you to drop one liner.

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Speaker 6: He so like respect, all respect.

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Speaker 8: And also just consider this and have this sort of

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Speaker 8: outlook on things whenever he said that, whenever he said

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to win to just think about how

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Speaker 8: much the team has changed since that statement, I mean,

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Speaker 8: and the strides that this team has made. Granted they

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Speaker 8: didn't have a winning season necessarily, but I mean, this

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Speaker 8: Whenever he felt like he had to leave and go

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Speaker 8: compete for a super Bowl, it is night and day different.

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Speaker 2: One of the people that he had personal and personal

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Speaker 2: and public beef with, right to our knowledge at this

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Speaker 2: point was Micah. Right, they had a tip. Neither played

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboy, neither played for them anymore. Yep, sorry,

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Speaker 2: So whatever dynamic was going on in that locker room

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Speaker 2: may have very well been true at that point. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: that that made it was enough of a stir where

665
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: the d Law at that time in this organization felt

666
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: as if this is not the vision for me. So

667
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: he left. He removed himself, and then Micah got removed.

668
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Speaker 8: So you know, Michael's doing good podcasts from the super

669
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Speaker 8: Bowl that helas playing.

670
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 6: He lost point to d last point.

671
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Speaker 7: But you know, in addition to all of the things

672
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 7: that you guys are saying about d Law, what I

673
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 7: respect the most is the fact that for so often

674
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 7: when he was here, especially over that I say, the

675
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 7: past two or three last seasons that he was here,

676
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 7: there was a pocket of the fan base, not many,

677
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 7: but there was a pocket of the fan base that

678
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 7: used the world washed, Oh he's washed, to get him

679
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 7: out of here, get him out of here. Not only

680
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 7: did he go and stand on business and get his

681
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 7: Super Bowl in the first year outside of the organization.

682
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Speaker 3: He was a key contributor throughout.

683
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was like no one in a leader and

684
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 7: a leader, no one in that pocket who of Cowboys

685
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 7: fans that say, oh de Law's washed, getting my out

686
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 7: of here. No one can look at him and say, well,

687
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 7: did you even play bro?

688
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, he absolutely was.

689
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: He the best player on the defense. No, but was

690
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: he The word that.

691
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: Was used to describe him was perfect in the Super

692
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 7: Bowl force multiplayer. That was exactly what he was the

693
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 7: entirety of the season and in the Super Bowl as well,

694
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 7: up to and through the Super Bowl. So he was

695
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 7: a key contributor, He was a starter, He was a

696
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 7: leader in that locker room fifty one. So I say

697
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 7: that to say, this is not a guy who went

698
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 7: and rode someone's coattails to finally getting the ring.

699
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 6: Right.

700
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 7: He didn't chase the ring. He took a bet on

701
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 7: himself take them to them. He took at Yeah, he

702
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 7: didn't take them to the ring.

703
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: I was one of the people that when he had

704
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: made that statement. Initially I chuckled at it. I scoffed

705
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: at it, because you're joining a team with a losing

706
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: record and no real intention of being a Super Bowl contemded.

707
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: You didn't see division point, he didn't the division. I

708
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: didn't see it, nobody saw it.

709
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 6: He did.

710
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: And he's a competitor, so you expect him to say

711
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: stuff like that, And so when I scoffed at it,

712
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: you scoff at it as a competitor yourself, somebody that's

713
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: around this team and saying, yeah, we're gonna still push

714
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: and try and do what we're gonna do and whatever

715
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: it ends up being. But you never really know until

716
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: you're in that moment, like Dila did, just what he

717
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: believed in himself and what he was betting on in himself.

718
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: It's impressive.

719
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 6: You're naturally instinct is to think that.

720
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: It's spite, Yeah, and it was never that.

721
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: It was never that now so that you can kind

722
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: of You could see that in the reactions that he

723
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: had on social for sure with other former Cowboy employee

724
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: or not employees, but former Cowboys players that are no

725
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: longer with the team anymore. The reaction and then the

726
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: co reaction and the back and forth that you saw

727
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: on social from that moment, it showed up in the

728
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: in the long run, didn't it. And I think if

729
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: you're a Cowboys fan, it's hard for me to say

730
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: that that was all in spite to Dallas.

731
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: It was mostly in spite to the.

732
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 6: Situation which has.

733
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: Shifted from that point.

734
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: So that brings me to my next question of how

735
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 4: did Seattle get there? They had incredible not I wouldn't

736
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: even say luck, but they had an incredible percentage of

737
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: hitting on first round picks. And just for those that

738
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: watched the Draft show as well, we're gonna talk about

739
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: this a little bit today on the Draft Show too.

740
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Speaker 3: But think of back two years ago.

741
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: The twenty twenty three NFL Draft, I guess technically three

742
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: years ago.

743
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: They had two first round picks.

744
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: They had a selection at number five, top five pick,

745
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: Devin Wood Witherspoon, who was the key contributor of that

746
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: defense and a legitimate force.

747
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: In the secondary.

748
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 4: And their second pick was at pick number twenty happens

749
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: to be the same selection the Cowboys had, Jackson Smith

750
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: and Jigba.

751
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: You heard that name a couple times through the playoff run.

752
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: You hear that Offensive Player of the Year.

753
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 8: Maybe I didn't quite hear it on the NFL Honors night.

754
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I didn't hear that name specifically from Drewski,

755
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: but there were some there were some times he was

756
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: mentioned quite often, and there's a good reason for that.

757
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: But then the next year they hit on Byron Murphy.

758
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: The next year after that, twenty twenty five, they get

759
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: Grey Zabel, who didn't play a ton, but he played

760
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: a little bit back and.

761
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: Forth, but he was a rookie. So my point being.

762
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: Is Dallas as always been a draft and developed team.

763
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: But in order to do that, you have to get

764
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: guys that develop and develop quickly. Who you need to

765
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: see Dallas take a step forward without even talking about

766
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: revamping the defense this offseason, without even having that conversation,

767
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: because everybody knows that's the case.

768
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 6: Guys who are on its current right, who.

769
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: Are on this current roster that you need to take

770
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: a huge step forward, because that's what Jackson Smith and

771
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: Jigba did. Devin Witherspoon was already NFL ready, but he

772
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Speaker 4: took steps.

773
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: And strides as well.

774
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: Who do you need to see it from in order

775
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 4: for Dallas to get where Seattle ended up get?

776
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Speaker 7: You know what, all the names that you said, don't

777
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 7: forget Witherspoon, right, And in thinking of Witherspoon, twenty.

778
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Speaker 6: Three first had a tremendous impact on top five pick.

779
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Speaker 7: Yep, I'm going to although this person I'm saying about

780
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 7: to say is not a first round pick, Savone Revel

781
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 7: the Cowboys. When you look at what the Cowboys are

782
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 7: a cornerback wise man, dire streets isn't even the word.

783
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 7: I mean, it's worse than dire straits. As we talk

784
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 7: ahead of free agency and ahead of the next draft.

785
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 7: And to be fair to Saphone Revel, because we have

786
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 7: to be fair here. He was coming off of torn

787
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 7: acl He did not have a full off season of

788
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 7: actual training camp or training camp at all because he

789
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 7: was on you know, the pup list and whatnot. So

790
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 7: nfilists for him. But this is going to be the

791
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 7: first full off season healthy. He gets to develop in

792
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 7: a first healthy off season under Christian Parker and Derek

793
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 7: Ansley and Ryan Smith. And now the Cowboys have hired

794
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: Robert Muschamp, nephew of Will must Champ.

795
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: Can I say it? Can I say it?

796
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 10: No?

797
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, go dogs as assistant secondary coach.

798
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Speaker 7: So you coach for Texas now, well yeah yeah, well yeah,

799
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 7: but before you got there, where was he was that

800
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 7: Georgia who gave him the Netty.

801
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 6: Okay, so there's that.

802
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 7: But when you talk about how the Cowboys are structuring

803
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 7: their defensive coaching staff from the top, Christian Parker moving downwards,

804
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 7: highly focused, highly focused on improving the secondary, I'm looking

805
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 7: at the development Isaiah. You talked about it a lot

806
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 7: last year. The position coaches are critical and developing. The

807
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 7: Cowboys have suffered in not developing certain young guys in

808
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 7: certain positions. I want to see Savone Revel take a

809
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 7: huge stride. Does that huge stride mean for me a

810
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: Pro Bowl stride? I would love to see it.

811
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: It'd be great.

812
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 7: That's not what I'm looking for, though, I'm looking for.

813
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 7: I'm looking for defensive player of the year. I'm looking

814
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 7: for seventeen plus games from Savone Revel as a starter

815
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 7: playing at a a high level, define high level. I'm

816
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 7: not saying he can go Pro Bowl. I'm not saying

817
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 7: he can't. But if you give me him playing at

818
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 7: a high level, seventeen plus games, which told me goes

819
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 7: to his availability in a situation where you don't know

820
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 7: what dron Bland's durability looks like with his foot, it's

821
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 7: the post digs era. I like Reddy Stewart Keilllyn Carson,

822
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 7: Steve needs developing development. You got to solve this cornerback position, and.

823
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 6: You might solve it in the draft.

824
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 7: Why the big from Savona?

825
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: Why are you state that?

826
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: I hope and pray that Revel gets help, he gets

827
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: back to what he was.

828
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 8: In college, an actual off season.

829
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: An actual off season.

830
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: With that said, I I.

831
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 6: Have never been science and science.

832
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: I personally am not a big believer that cornerbacks can

833
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: return to what they were after tornasios. Okay, why that

834
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: position specifically, the mechanics of the position. Elaborate, the backpedaling,

835
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: the contortion on the knee, the reactionary as a receiver,

836
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: tight end, whatever offensive player. It's it's easier because you're

837
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: you are initiating the movements, right, You're predicting those movements.

838
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: You're you're not reacting your body's response. Yeah, your body's

839
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: reactionary mechanism is completely different than the initiation. Right If

840
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: that hopefully that makes sense to people. I just not

841
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: a big believer. I hope, I really do. I hope

842
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: that from somebody who's had a thousand injuries, I really

843
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: hope that he gets back to what he was. It's

844
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: sometimes it's a dragon that you just that you don't

845
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: catch at that position.

846
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 6: Group.

847
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: So in terms of what I believe, who I believe

848
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: on this roster is capable of stepping up his two guys,

849
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I think that drom Bland needs to get back to

850
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: who he was. He has a ceiling that he has

851
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: touched before. He's touched the ceiling tile, but he's not

852
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: he's not close to that ceiling toile right now.

853
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: He has to get back to that.

854
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: So get back up on the ladder, get close to

855
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: the ceiling towel and hopefully pop it up and pop

856
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: it open and see that you still.

857
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 6: Have more to go. I'm not sure where he's.

858
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: At in his mental space right now to believe that

859
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: he's that he has more than what he's already attained.

860
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: That's my number one. So I think Bland has more

861
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: than what he has shown. I'm not sure if he

862
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: believes it. Second person that I think could be a

863
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: tremendous impact on this entire defense without having to go.

864
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: Acquire somebody as Ready Stewart. I think Ready Stewart.

865
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Showed some stuff is safety.

866
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: The versatile safety that that you're going to be probably

867
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: looking for. They don't see him as a safety, and

868
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: I hope the previous previous the previous.

869
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 6: Regime did not see him as a safety.

870
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: When I watched the Seattle Seahawks and I see their

871
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: defense and I see how versatile they are in the

872
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: different offers in memory, I'm not saying Ready Stewart's.

873
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 6: Him, but I'm saying that he has that versatility.

874
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the size, but he has a versatility

875
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: and the physicality. Somebody who can go play safety and

876
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: come down to play nickel. I think if you train

877
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: him at that and you instill in him a sense

878
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: of confidence from that meeting room, from the coaches that

879
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: say you're our guy. Belief from coaches as a player

880
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: makes all the difference in the world and the player.

881
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: I repeat, when you have a coach that believes in

882
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: you and instills in you the faith that you are

883
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Speaker 2: more than what you've shown and we're going to stay

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Speaker 2: And I know people are like, you're tripping. Riddy Stewart

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Speaker 2: So I think that he's somebody that you can plug in.

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Speaker 2: There as a strong safety that can come down and

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Speaker 4: all right, Josh who needs to take a step up?

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Speaker 4: And I kind of laughed a little bit at some

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Speaker 4: of the comments here, like the whole defense. I agree absolutely,

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Speaker 4: but we're being specific here. Who are some of the

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Speaker 8: I mean, I know we're talking about defense, but I

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Speaker 8: one particular offensive player that you've invested a lot in

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Speaker 8: first round pick that absolutely needs to step up in

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Speaker 8: a big way because we're at a point of diminishing

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Speaker 8: returns here. We can't be picking another offensive lineman. Okay,

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Speaker 8: so give me Tyler Gitton in a big, bad way.

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Speaker 8: That guy needs to step up, and not only that,

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Speaker 8: but remain healthy through the entire season. Please get through

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Speaker 8: a whole season, but get some of that dirty back.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Like he's I'm I've lost

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Speaker 8: confidence in him because I think he lost confidence in

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Speaker 8: himself of the last I don't think there was that

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Speaker 8: like grit there that you saw in his first at

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Speaker 8: training camp, his first training camp, I think it diminished

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Speaker 8: a bit. I think he says a lot of the

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Speaker 8: right things. I think he's a good he's a man

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Speaker 8: of good character.

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Speaker 6: But to me.

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Speaker 4: Be a little nasty, is that just a byproduct of

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Speaker 4: trying to stay healthy and he's limiting his self to

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Speaker 4: try and get through it?

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Speaker 8: Is that part that would that would be a disappointment, honestly,

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Speaker 8: that really would, I hope, because you need to leave

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Speaker 8: it all out I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, you absolutely need to.

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Speaker 8: And I think with as much as the Cowboys have

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Speaker 8: early picks Cooper Babe, notwithstanding a third round pick, right,

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Speaker 8: but if that comes to pass where next year you

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Speaker 8: are kind of like iffy about the offensive line yet again,

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Speaker 8: and he's kind of in and out like it's just

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Speaker 8: that would just be a huge dispointment. And I think

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Speaker 8: you could even retain Terrence Steel this year if you

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Speaker 8: have a huge step from from Tyler guy.

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Speaker 4: My question then turns to and I'm curious on what

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Speaker 4: Guidon specifically, he right now is his concern is around

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Speaker 4: his availability. But at one point does he become damaged

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Speaker 4: goods in your eyes and on paper, because at some

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Speaker 4: point it's just the path of no return and at

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Speaker 4: some point you can't trust him to be the left

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Speaker 4: tackle of the thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was dem and diminished goods too. I had

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Speaker 2: a ton of injuries and they got to the point

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Speaker 2: where they couldn't trust the fact that I was gonna

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Speaker 2: be available, right So that's a big portion of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't obviously, that is a portion of it for him.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's not there yet.

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Speaker 6: It's for him.

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Speaker 2: I think it's mostly mental and I identified that long, long, long,

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Speaker 2: long time ago, just watching how he operates in practice

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Speaker 2: and things of that nature. I just don't think that

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Speaker 2: that dog switches on.

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Speaker 8: This is the same guy that held his own against

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Speaker 8: Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Correct. Yes, yes, in game one, in game one.

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Speaker 8: It's in the first game of his career. Get back

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Speaker 8: to that man.

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Speaker 6: It's just mental a decision.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that does it for us. Here I'll

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Speaker 4: talk about Cowboys. I know these forty five minute shows.

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Speaker 6: That's all right.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 4: For Patrick Noses, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back, Chris

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Speaker 4: Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long

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Speaker 4: from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.

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