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Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, we are scrubbing.

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Speaker 3: Is scrub a dub dub? Not in the tub, tub tub.

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Speaker 2: We're not in the tub.

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Speaker 4: We're in Epic Con in Chicago, at Epic Con. Yeah, Coga, Jason, correct,

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Speaker 4: we are here because why are we here?

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Speaker 2: Tanya? Do you want to know why we're here?

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Speaker 5: I do know why we were, why we're here. I

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Speaker 5: know why we're here to the ladies of epicn are

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Speaker 5: huge scrubbers, which shout out.

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Speaker 2: Shout out, but also all women run company.

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Speaker 5: And all women run company made out of professional fangirls,

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Speaker 5: which I personally love to see.

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Speaker 2: I just love that being a fangirl resulted in a

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Speaker 2: whole convention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of fellow fangirls.

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Speaker 2: A fellow fangirls. Yeah, and people as fans can come

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Speaker 2: and pay and meet their favorite stars from their favorite shows.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: What a genius concept.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love a con Maybe maybe one day you and

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Speaker 5: I could make a convention.

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Speaker 2: What would that be?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Let's put a pin in it.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back to that, we'll brainstorm that. But for now,

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Speaker 2: we're here because This epic con specifically is for the

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Speaker 2: first responders of TV.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 5: Correct, So we're gonna have a couple episodes for you

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Speaker 5: from here, and this one is going to consist. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna call this one our Gray's Anatomy episode.

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Speaker 2: So creative, Yeah you got. I thought you were about

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Speaker 2: to hit me with like a creative title for them.

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Speaker 5: This one's just going to be the Gray's Anatomy episode. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's going to consist of Adelaide, Cain, Jake BURRELLI, Skyler, Aston,

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Speaker 5: Jason George.

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Speaker 2: Some of our all time faves.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Jason George was our first ever when it.

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Speaker 5: Was just me a solo artist, and I have also

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Speaker 5: had him on since I knows.

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Speaker 2: Aspect is that he was our first scrubbing and guests ever.

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Speaker 2: He got the ball rolling.

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Speaker 3: Yes he did. He believed in us when no one,

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Speaker 3: no one else did.

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Speaker 2: When I only believed in myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even believe in you at that point.

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Speaker 7: Wow wow wow wow.

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Speaker 4: Okay, before this gets harsh, let's begin, let's begin, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, everybody. Adelaide Kine is here. Hi, guys Ico, how

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Speaker 2: you doing me too? How are you doing? I'm good.

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Speaker 8: I just slammed a cold brew and oh wow, it's

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Speaker 8: hitting my system.

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Speaker 3: Just loving it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, incredible, I'm doing well good.

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Speaker 2: You said you do a lot of these fan conventions. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I took last year off because I was feeling a

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Speaker 8: little bit burnt out. But I've done a bunch. Most

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Speaker 8: of the conventions I do are in Europe or in

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Speaker 8: a huge amount of like US based conventions. So it's

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Speaker 8: really nice to be here in Chicago and be like, oh,

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Speaker 8: it's only a four hour flight instead of fourteen.

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Speaker 3: It's so nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: How do the Gray's Anatomy fans compare to the rest?

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Speaker 8: The Gray's Anatomy fans have been really lovely and quite

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Speaker 2: They're very chill.

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Speaker 8: It's interesting the spread of Gray's Anatomy fans from like,

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Speaker 8: like my cousin is a Gray's Anatomy fan. She's been

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Speaker 8: watching since high school. So a lot of Gray's fans

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Speaker 8: So it's really interesting to be meeting fans who have

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Speaker 8: of two years. It's it's really remarkable, like just like

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Speaker 3: The energy is very steady. It's very calm.

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Speaker 8: They're like, ah, welcome to our family, and I'm like, oh, thanks,

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Speaker 8: I'm so glad to be here because it truly does

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Speaker 8: testament to how long the show's been going for, in

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask, though, what was it like

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, Like any time you join a show later on

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Speaker 8: upon a time, there's always a little bit of anxiety

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Speaker 8: kind of dynamic you're coming into. All what places ever

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of us are eccentric. There are

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Speaker 8: really never know. You never know what you're going to get.

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Speaker 8: Like is everyone a big family and you're going to

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Speaker 8: You always feel left out a little bit initially or

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Speaker 8: It's like it's like starting a new school. You're like,

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 5: What is the most welcoming when you like your first day.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was very welcoming.

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Speaker 8: To be honest, like, we were all very pleasantly surprised,

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Speaker 8: We've all been doing this for a very long time

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Speaker 8: But you know, he's new to actings. This is this

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Speaker 8: went right, Okay, no matter what happens, we're in this together.

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Speaker 8: It's the five of us. We've got each other's back.

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Speaker 8: If you know, if one of us needs something, we

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Speaker 8: all come together. So it doesn't it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 8: the vibe is on set. We've got each other. I

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Speaker 8: And then we went on to set and it was

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Speaker 8: it was really everyone was just really lovely, really lovely,

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Speaker 8: for the first year or two, but they will come around.

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Speaker 3: They're very devoted to the show. They're devoted to the.

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Speaker 8: Show, So anyone knew that comes in and might like

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Yeah, you know, it.

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Speaker 2: Was good advice.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've watched it since I was in high school,

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Speaker 5: And you're like, I did not like Joe Wilson when

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Speaker 8: Like she was like, people hated me, and I'm like,

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Speaker 8: She's like, yeah, no, they love me now. I just

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Speaker 8: Like it takes some minutes to adjust. You're disturbing the peace,

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Speaker 8: They put us through medical boot camp and they were like,

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Speaker 2: We just like slotted right in.

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Speaker 8: They made space for us and it was very comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think having the like everyone coming in together,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it made it easier for all of us because

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Speaker 8: and we have our storylines and whatever, so you know,

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Speaker 8: come what may. If everyone's wonderful and kind of welcoming, excellent.

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Speaker 5: So I respect of that, and then this question is

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Speaker 2: But not we don't need to try that need to

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 8: And they'll be like, I'm gonna like swingering McDonald's and

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Speaker 3: It actually severely impacts my life. And now that out

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Speaker 8: As people get to know me, they're like, oh, that's

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Speaker 8: Constantly By the time I know I'm hungry, it's too late.

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Speaker 2: I and there will be snacks, like actual snacks in

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Speaker 3: Put them in the washing.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I always have a granola bar or like a

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, I mean she is you know, she'll have

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Speaker 3: We keep getting the.

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Speaker 2: Wraps so much fun. Stay stay well fed.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually going to a snack right now.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It was a pleasure to the old time.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, we have Jake forrelling. Thanks for having

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Speaker 6: Scrub It's been a while though. I've missed you.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 3: We're really going to miss you.

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Speaker 6: I know, everybody, How did it happen?

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Speaker 7: Do you know what?

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Speaker 6: I'm always the last. I have no idea what happened,

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Speaker 6: And are you going to die?

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Speaker 3: I mean I hope not, because then you come back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, although now even if you die, apparently you can

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Speaker 6: come back to ghost I do joke because I don't

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Speaker 6: know if Meredith Gray is ever going to be like

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Speaker 2: But yeah, how did you feel about the storyline with

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Speaker 6: I the trauma was thick in my body as well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we hope not, but we pray, we pray

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Speaker 3: But I was mad.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking like that, like I can't think of

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Speaker 6: Someone else, yes, And then he says like I haven't

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Speaker 3: Was horrible.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like you've been a part of Grace

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Speaker 2: No, we we we saw pictures of them from all time.

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Speaker 5: Last night, I know we were with Camilla and Jess

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Speaker 6: You could have just snuck in, I mean we were

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Speaker 6: going to miss a beat. Camilla, I'm obviously going to

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Speaker 6: And then all these new interns too. We hang out

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Speaker 6: hopefully we'll see Leavy back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you I'm trying to remember, but it's been

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And what season was that that this show?

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Speaker 6: So season fifteen is when we find out that he's queer,

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Speaker 2: That is so crazy because we have Kelly in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: But then it took it took Calsna.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, get it right.

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Speaker 2: But you're such an iconic role for you to I mean,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been wild.

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Speaker 6: And then being queer personally too, it's been so rewarding

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Speaker 2: Were you excited when Jac's character Helm Hell, when she

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny and she was like we always

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Speaker 9: She might still be.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that your best friends.

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Speaker 6: I keep pitching that we do some like big gay

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Speaker 9: Build the gay bar.

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Speaker 2: Been twenty one season or twenty seasons?

446
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Speaker 3: Build the bar? What's next for you?

447
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Speaker 2: Like, what are you even looking forward to?

448
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Speaker 6: You know what I've been doing. Missus Debbie Allen Catherine

449
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Speaker 6: fox right. She's also our producing director, so she chooses

450
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Speaker 6: all the directors. She's we know, she's like a great teacher,

451
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 6: dance teacher, all this stuff. She has her school. I've

452
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 6: been shadowing her as a director. So I just got

453
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 6: off an episode shadowing her. I've done it twice. I

454
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 6: shouted some of the other directors.

455
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Speaker 3: So do you just ask them? Can I shadow you?

456
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: And they're like yeah, sure.

457
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's you know a little bit more diffic,

458
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Speaker 6: but yeah, essentially Debbie. Essentially, essentially, it's a conversation with

459
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 6: Debbie and then she decides whether or not she thinks

460
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Speaker 6: you're a good candidate for it.

461
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Speaker 9: And there's a whole.

462
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 6: List of like people that want to people waiting, but

463
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 6: I think, you know, obviously being an actor on the show,

464
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Speaker 6: you have a little bit more of an inh but

465
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Speaker 6: but yeah, so so it was a conversation with her,

466
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Speaker 6: and she's been incredible and so generous with her knowledge,

467
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 6: and so that is one big next step for me

468
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Speaker 6: is moving into the directing. I'm going to be doing

469
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Speaker 6: a short this January, and hopefully I could come back

470
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Speaker 6: at some point and direct an episode of Graze.

471
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Speaker 2: That would be so cool. I love that they do

472
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Speaker 2: that because I feel like a lot of the actors

473
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Speaker 2: get a chance to be behind the camera.

474
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Speaker 6: There's a lot Kevin McKidd, Jesse Williams, Chandra Wilson, a

475
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 6: lot of people have Yeah.

476
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Speaker 2: It's so cool.

477
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Speaker 9: Is it?

478
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: Like people get the bug and they're like, I want to.

479
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Speaker 2: I want to I want to be the one in

480
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Speaker 2: control back. I fare so.

481
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Speaker 6: And also, I mean, the show's on for so long,

482
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 6: there's so many episodes, so for like an outside director

483
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 6: coming in, there's so much like onboarding that you would

484
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 6: have to do to get into the show, where like

485
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 6: we've been there the whole time, and so we know

486
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 6: everything that's happened, we know all the storylines, we know

487
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 6: the actors personally, so I think there's a little bit

488
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Speaker 6: of an advantage there as well.

489
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Speaker 2: Do you ever have like I was just thinking about this,

490
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Speaker 2: I could never be an actress because I feel like

491
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Speaker 2: I would be concerned about what the where the angle

492
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: was hitting me.

493
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that would be That would Does anyone

494
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Speaker 5: ever think about that when.

495
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Speaker 6: It's like definitely and there's like you you you know

496
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 6: where the cameras are so that you can sort of

497
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 6: cheat to them or cheat away from them depending on

498
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 6: what the scene is, and you know, it's definitely important.

499
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Speaker 6: I think when I'm acting, I try to turn that

500
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Speaker 6: director brain off then and I try to just be

501
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 6: in the scene and let them, let them capture what

502
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 6: they capture, you know what I mean, and try to

503
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Speaker 6: just like like unFocus my eyes to whatever is in

504
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 6: the background, because usually it's just like a dude in

505
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 6: the crew like eating a doughnut or whatever. It's like,

506
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 6: it's not just the cameras, it's like fifty people just

507
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Speaker 6: like waiting for them, just.

508
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: Picturing Tony and I as extras, because you know, that

509
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: was our thing. We were like trying to.

510
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Be knocking down that door. Just Debbie, did.

511
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Speaker 9: You ever get on.

512
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Speaker 2: We did on set, like right before the pandemic. One

513
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: of our listeners worked on on the lott Yeah, she

514
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: got us a tour and we wore scrubs. Everyone. They

515
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: were like, are you all extras were like, no, we can't.

516
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Speaker 6: Guest stars come in like you can play sisters like

517
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Speaker 6: something horrible.

518
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Speaker 3: Podcast host yea, you know it's like something tragic happened

519
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: during the middle of the episode.

520
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Speaker 2: And the microphone, Yeah, that's very grace and.

521
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, the mic goes through both of our stomachs.

522
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, well I was just thinking Tony and

523
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Speaker 2: I would be like looking at the camera.

524
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 6: We do we do sometimes honestly, there's like huge lighting

525
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 6: setups that they can only do for like certain scenes,

526
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 6: and obviously the more light the better people look. So

527
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 6: sometimes people will like try to cheat into that really

528
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 6: good light setup so that they look good.

529
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: They like extra in the corner when we were We

530
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: talked to Jessica and Camilla last night and they were

531
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: talking about the intimacy coordinators. Oh yeah, so have they

532
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: been there since you.

533
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Speaker 6: Know, so I meant intimacy coordinators. I think I've been

534
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 6: around for a while, but they're they're just now within

535
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 6: the last like maybe four or five years really really

536
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 6: getting integrated into the film world. So I would say

537
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 6: probably like halfway through Levi's relationship with Nico, we started

538
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 6: getting intimacy coordinators. But yeah, they're very they're very helpful.

539
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Speaker 2: It's just hard because it's like you don't know how

540
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: you like, when you're kissing someone in real life, you're

541
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: not thinking about how it looks right.

542
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: Right, But like how detailed do they get?

543
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 6: Like I mean, some of them will get really detailed.

544
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 6: Other ones are kind of just like, hey, I have

545
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 6: mints if you need them. So it's like sort of

546
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 6: you get the whole gamut. And it's really based on

547
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 6: I think the actors comfortability. So if they know, like, oh,

548
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 6: these these two guys are comfortable, like I'll just be

549
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 6: like the mint person. But if it's if it's you know,

550
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: they're a more intense scene, then they'll be right there

551
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 6: in rehearsal, like right by the camera watching everything and

552
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 6: who yeah and yeah, putting their input. It's it's also

553
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 6: they're really good like liaison between the actors and the

554
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 6: directors too, so that no one feels.

555
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: Right being like that doesn't look good. Like if they

556
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: can be like that doesn't look great or whatever. Yea,

557
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: in real life? Are you in a relationship?

558
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm not.

559
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Speaker 3: Are you on the apps?

560
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 6: I'm not on the apps. I've recently got out of

561
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 6: like a really lovely, nice, sort of long relationship and

562
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: we're sharing our dog and we're we're still very close,

563
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 6: and so I think we're just I'm sitting in that

564
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 6: g right, Yeah, because dog. It's great. We love our dog.

565
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 6: He's so cute.

566
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Speaker 3: Like what's how's the sharing?

567
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 6: It's we just we share him back and forth and.

568
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: We just one day, one day or.

569
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Speaker 6: Like we don't really have like a full schedule. Yeah,

570
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 6: it's a lot of times like if he's working, I'll

571
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 6: take the dog. If I'm working, we'll take the dog.

572
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 6: Like I'm we're in Chicago right now, so he you know,

573
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 6: shadows with him and yeah, it's just.

574
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: Have like a amicable situation.

575
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the both love him so much. He's so handsome.

576
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 6: He's a German shepherd. He's a German shepherd.

577
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: Have you heard of them?

578
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: They're like they're they're like the normal German shepherd coloring,

579
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 6: but then they have like very white cheeks and beautiful

580
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 6: like black eyeliner and like white white gloves.

581
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: And you feel very protected having him because I have

582
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: a Pomeranian.

583
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 6: It's a little different. He looks terrifying, but we like

584
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 6: sleep together.

585
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 7: He's very sweet.

586
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, I cannot wait to see what you do next.

587
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm like so sad that you're leaving. It's like the

588
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: whole Gray's way is that you can't get too attached

589
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: to anyone.

590
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 6: Because yeah, as an actor, you can't get too comfortable,

591
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 6: which is but I know, yeah, let's start a campaign

592
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 6: save Schmidt.

593
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, petition.

594
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 6: I was filming the other day and I was covered

595
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 6: in blood. I'm not going to tell you why savely Schmidt.

596
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: You heard it here, okay, But before you go, if

597
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: there was if you, I don't want you to die,

598
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: but if you died, or if you died or had

599
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: a near death experience, if LEVI died or had a

600
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: near death experience. I think we asked you this last time,

601
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: what would you if you got to choose it, would

602
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: you want it to be like a classics.

603
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 6: Like a long, slow death.

604
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 9: For a couple of seasons, like.

605
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 7: Not not coma.

606
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 6: I want I want to have some lines, you know

607
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, yeah, something really long, maybe old eight.

608
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, maybe it jumps.

609
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 6: Yes, it just jumps fifty years. We probably don't even

610
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 6: need a jump. But show will probably still be on

611
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 6: in fifty years. Zola will be like Jeeps at the hospital.

612
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 6: She'll be like believe I will be dying of old age.

613
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sign the petition to keep Leevi till old age. Yes, yeah, well,

614
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: thank you for here. Have much fun at the epic

615
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: con and toxic.

616
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 6: Oh my talk to Trae. Is I love sleeping in

617
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 6: so like I Honestly, when I was younger, I used

618
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 6: to have dream days where I would set on alarm

619
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 6: every fifteen minutes for not even joking, like five hours,

620
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 6: and I would wake up every fifteen minutes so that

621
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 6: I could like get my dream going. And so I

622
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: still love sleeping in on like days I'm not working,

623
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 6: I will be in bed like we're not hanging out.

624
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: Does that not interrupt the.

625
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 6: That's exactly what it does. It interrupts them citle, So

626
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 6: then you can you can remember your dreams.

627
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 3: Then aren't you more tired?

628
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's so fun. It's toxic.

629
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: I did that too. I literally used to set my

630
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: alarm I'd have to be up at seven. I'd set

631
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: it for four, so I was like, I have three

632
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: hours with just weird weird.

633
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 9: Yeah.

634
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: I did that mind to the minute, like it's literally

635
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: like the minute I have to wake up, like forty seven, Like.

636
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: Whatever, No, same, I'm with you. I love sleep, We

637
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: love you so much. Thank you for taking time. This

638
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: so good to see you. All right, everybody, we have

639
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Skylar asked and Scrubby.

640
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, welcome to the war baby, happy to be here.

641
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: Have you.

642
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: We were with Jessica Capshaw andk Mill Luddington last night

643
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: and they speak so highly of you. Oh.

644
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 9: I love them so very much. They're the best. I

645
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 9: did their podcast too, and we just like it was

646
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 9: one of those things where I was like, is this

647
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 9: now a three person podcast and we're about to do

648
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 9: this every week? Oh yeah, they're the best.

649
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 7: I love that.

650
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: It's so fun when you go on another podcast and

651
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: you have chemistry at the house and you're like, I

652
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: can do this.

653
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 9: A third totally. Well. We were doing a lot of

654
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 9: like fan questions too, and I was giving these like

655
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 9: male perspectives on things, but it wasn't just like growie

656
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 9: male perspectives. So she was like, wait, we kind of

657
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 9: need to have you around because this is super helpful

658
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 9: because I like to give like the unconventional kind of

659
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 9: answers and not just like.

660
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: We love it.

661
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 9: Do you have a couple of those relationship advice.

662
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Speaker 5: It's funny because we do these things called the mantle,

663
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 5: and so it's like a man panel, right, and uh,

664
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: you are solo today. You know, there's no man panels.

665
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 5: You're it's a solo man.

666
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Speaker 3: Man, you're the man the mantle.

667
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: But it's true because I think a lot of our

668
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: listeners are scrubbers, are either dating, trying to find somebody,

669
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 5: or newly. I feel like they're like newly in the.

670
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: First seasons like iss, dating married and get all of it. Yeah,

671
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: so I we always like to get advice because people,

672
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: you know, FLEs perspective, a male's perspective.

673
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: Perspective between the two of us, it's one with a woman.

674
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: But I know that's really eliminated the need of male advice.

675
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 9: Right, you could talk about dating a woman though, oh yeah,

676
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 9: and we do, we do.

677
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But I am curious advice in terms of

678
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: it being in the industry that you're in and having

679
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: a lot of women and female attention, what is it

680
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: that you've done differently in your dating life that's just

681
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: been you know that you would give advice to, or

682
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 2: something that you did that you would not recommend and

683
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: have changed.

684
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 9: I just feel like, in general, I try to always

685
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 9: never approach it from like, well, now that I'm in

686
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 9: the industry or now that I'm a public figure. I

687
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 9: try to just like cut to the core of it

688
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 9: and just think about like how I was raised, how

689
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 9: like my mother taught me to treat people and how

690
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 9: to be treated. And you know, I've made some mistakes.

691
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 9: I mean, for sure, like I've been in situations where

692
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 9: I've given too much of the benefit of the doubt

693
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 9: at times, and I've even gotten in situations where you

694
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 9: stay in something a bit too long. But I feel

695
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 9: like I'm also good at giving others advice because it's

696
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 9: sometimes hardest to take the advice that you would give yourselves.

697
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 9: I've definitely like been in therapy in my life, being

698
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 9: like and I know if my friend was going through this,

699
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 9: what I would say, but for some reason it feels

700
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 9: different or for some reason to do this for myself,

701
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 9: which is true an interesting thing, So I feel like

702
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 9: it would be an interesting practice easier said than done

703
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 9: to kind of give yourself advice the way you would

704
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 9: give your best friend advice.

705
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think that that's a tailtale sign of

706
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: a good guy if he has a good relationship with

707
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Speaker 5: his mom.

708
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Speaker 9: As someone who's mom's boy, I would say yes. I

709
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 9: also would say that, you know, I think it's also

710
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 9: a bit of a red flag when the partner has

711
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 9: an issue with that too, because I think that people

712
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 9: can you know, if anyone's ever trying to take you

713
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 9: from your family, unless if they are a toxic family

714
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 9: and they're doing it for the you know, but that's

715
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 9: not the case in my situation. So I feel like

716
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 9: that's that's not a trait that you should go for

717
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 9: if you find yourself kind of losing a bit of

718
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 9: yourself or losing other relationships in your life. You know,

719
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 9: relationships should be additive and it should only you know, improve,

720
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 9: And sure there's like different dynamics when there's families involved,

721
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 9: of course, but like I think, you know, in general,

722
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 9: that should be something that should be appreciated by the spouse.

723
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciated and celebrated totally. Yeah, switching gears because last

724
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: time we talked to Camilla about when you were on

725
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, and I saw a clip of y'all of

726
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: the podcast you did with them, where you were talking

727
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: about how how she thought that you were going to

728
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: be Joe's person endgame.

729
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, why not?

730
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 9: Well, it's like the boring answer is the fact that

731
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 9: I had booked a pilot, and so the gracious writers

732
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 9: of Grey's Anatomy were like, we can't have you be

733
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 9: in two places at once, and so they kind of

734
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 9: like unceremoniously wrote me off in a way that was

735
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 9: just not what we were building towards as actors. Whether

736
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 9: the writers were like no, dude, you were always a

737
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 9: bit temporary, Like I don't know if they thought we

738
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 9: were endgame, but they were definitely writing towards love Camilla

739
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 9: and I were certainly playing that.

740
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you got that, when you got the

741
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: role in Grays, you didn't have so helped me Todd

742
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: yet No, no.

743
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 9: But I was playing a character named Todd on Grays.

744
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Ironically, Yeah, that is manifest.

745
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 9: It's or just it's in my contract now I happen

746
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 9: to be named Yes, I maybe I did manifest actually,

747
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 9: but we were Yeah, it was just this typical like

748
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 9: beet cute, you know kind of scenes where I was

749
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 9: playing the brother of a patient and then our characters

750
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 9: kind of hit it off. And then I think Camilla

751
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 9: was also loving it too and telling the writers like

752
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 9: because I think she's just had a lot of these

753
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 9: like tumultuous torture relationships on the show, and she's liked,

754
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 9: please keep him. This is just so nice to play.

755
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 9: It's so earnest, it's sweet. Like there will be conflict

756
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 9: down the line, I'm sure, but but he's so solid

757
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 9: and I loved playing that character. And then yeah, just

758
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 9: once I booked that show, it was like the next

759
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 9: script was, well, I was supposed to do like a

760
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 9: couple a few more, and then it turned into like

761
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 9: two more, and then it turned into like one and

762
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 9: a half, and then it turned into like here's the episode.

763
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: You're like, you guys, don't have to cut it that short.

764
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 9: He could have been cut literally. I was like, I'm

765
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 9: not leaving for another couple of months. But yeah, he

766
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 9: became a stage five clinger, Like he became this guy

767
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 9: that while he was like so supportive and so the

768
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 9: greatest boyfriend, he then was becoming just like get him

769
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 9: away from me. So it was like sad too, because

770
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 9: you know now, like Soame Toad isn't happening anymore, and

771
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 9: so we could totally rekindle it, and I think Milla

772
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 9: wants that. I would love that too, But thankfully they

773
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 9: didn't make him so horrible, Like he's not a.

774
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: Murder right right.

775
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 9: Right, Maybe he has a side of that story that

776
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 9: we can and learn about in later episodes, well right

777
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 9: our way around.

778
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm curious though, So if you're on a show like

779
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: that and there's you're like, there's potential where I could

780
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: become a series regular, because that happens Jessica and Camilla

781
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: were both guest stars and then became series regulars. And

782
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: then you get an offer for a pilot? Is there

783
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: are you having to make that decision of like do

784
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: I see if this goes somewhere or do I just

785
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: take something that's for sure.

786
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 9: I like to take something that's for sure, although a

787
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: pilot isn't for sure either, So I think that was

788
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 9: the whole thing, is like, let me do this pilot.

789
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 9: If it gets picked up, then I'll do this show

790
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 9: if not. Also, there wasn't, to be clear, there wasn't

791
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 9: like an offer on the table for grades it just

792
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 9: was going very well. Yeah, and they kept adding the

793
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 9: number of episodes that I was doing, so it was

794
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 9: and I was having so much fun. The cast is amazing,

795
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 9: The crew there is so incredible and warm and dialed in,

796
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 9: and they shoot it in Silver Lake, which is the

797
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 9: place I love is. I never get to shoot things

798
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 9: in La so I said, this is the best gig ever.

799
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 9: And yeah, just the people were so lovely, so I

800
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 9: I was totally open to doing it as much as

801
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 9: they'd have me and still still kind of am so late.

802
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: I love it all.

803
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: We're talking about these past days or petitions, Yeah, okay,

804
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: bringing people back, bring shows back, or all petitions.

805
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 9: There are a lot of petitions. There's a lot of

806
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 9: folks here at Epicon that were actually talking about bringing

807
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 9: so help Me Todd back. There were tons of entries

808
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 9: and petitions and things like that, and sometimes they work,

809
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 9: but in our case, the show just couldn't be saved

810
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 9: for a bunch of reasons. Yeah, we're so above all

811
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 9: of the petition's heads.

812
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, when you do events like this is pitch perfect

813
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: where people I got to.

814
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 9: Say, today has been really split. It's been really nice too,

815
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 9: because I expect pitch perfect. It's like a huge, you know, franchise,

816
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 9: and I love it, and it's definitely the gift that

817
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 9: keeps on giving. But I always appreciate like the deeper

818
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 9: cuts or or people love the show I was on

819
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 9: called It's always Extraordinary playlist and so helped me Todd

820
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 9: and now Gray's Anatomy since there's a lot of Grays.

821
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 9: How people here some of my theater stuff, so it

822
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 9: is kind of nice. And people had some like shirts

823
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 9: of shows that I've done, or like shirts that they

824
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 9: made of which was kind of sweet. So yeah, I

825
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 9: know the people here are really sweet and warm. But yeah,

826
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 9: i'd say the majority is always pitch perfect.

827
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that too. That's we were saying,

828
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: how when people.

829
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: Develop, it's the first time they see you.

830
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fall in love. They Yeah, So that's that's

831
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: always their special place.

832
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 9: You be Jesse in their hearts, which is fine. There's

833
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 9: a lot of worse things than people. I could be

834
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 9: so grateful for it.

835
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: What's your favorite medium? Do you movies? TV? Shows? Do

836
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: you you do Broadway?

837
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

838
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: I saw you were and I saw you just recently

839
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: did a show or performance with Ben Platt.

840
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 9: We love he's bested. Yeah, he's a Broadway boy just

841
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 9: like I am. We actually met before Pitch Perfect doing

842
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 9: like a workshop of a of like a Broadway kind

843
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 9: of thing, So that's kind of how we know each

844
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 9: other as total theater boys. I don't know which one

845
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 9: I love more because they all inform the other. For

846
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 9: me now, so much like my bread and butter was

847
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 9: always Broadway. That's all I thought I would ever do.

848
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 9: And then once I kind of stepped over into TV

849
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 9: and film, I kind of fell in love with that

850
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 9: in a different way. And it's different challenges that it

851
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 9: presents and different rewards that it presents. It's a different

852
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 9: kind of grind than theater, and I can't say one's harder, though.

853
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 9: I feel like if you'd never done TV, and if

854
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 9: you've never done theater and you've only done TV and film,

855
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 9: it's a little bit harder to just now take that

856
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 9: to an audience, do it without any cuts from start

857
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 9: to finish, knowing what that's like, how to kind of

858
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 9: cover on the spot in that live aspect of it is.

859
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 7: It could be.

860
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 9: Tricky if you'd never done that, But coming the way

861
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 9: that I did from theater to film, it was it

862
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 9: was not that bad of an adjustment because I had

863
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 9: the luxury of being able to do it more than once.

864
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 9: And I also then liked the idea of putting the

865
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 9: huzzle together kind of like you start in the middle

866
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 9: and then you do scenes kind of all around. And yeah,

867
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 9: it's a it's been a learning experience. But every time

868
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 9: I do one, I'm itching to do the other. So

869
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 9: something like I just did TV, I want to do

870
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 9: like something on stage. I missed that and so yeah,

871
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 9: I couldn't part with either.

872
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: No multi hyphen it.

873
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 9: I'm a multi hiphene.

874
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you should be when you.

875
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Do TV shows or movies. Are you like, are do

876
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: you feel like you're drawn to characters who have a

877
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: singing element?

878
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 9: I feel like I am written towards that a lot.

879
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 9: Like I feel like there's been a lot of situations

880
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 9: where I have not The character that I signed up

881
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 9: to play was not a singer, And then in the

882
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 9: next draft of the script, I'm like, why does he

883
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 9: have an a cappella group on the side that we've

884
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 9: never discussed previously.

885
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: We should what we should do is we should have

886
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: them do another Grays musical episode.

887
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: And yeah, I know, thank you so much.

888
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 9: Agree with that, so I know, right, I talked to

889
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 9: her actually about that. I was so so I would

890
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 9: so do that. I always like to me, I like

891
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 9: to do what I sign up for, no matter what

892
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 9: that is. So generally when I sign up to do

893
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 9: a musical, I'm like, let's do all the songs, let's

894
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 9: let's dance our butts off. But sometimes when it's like, hey,

895
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 9: this wasn't here, now it's here, what's that Like, That's

896
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 9: not how this works? So because because I do, Because

897
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 9: I think one of the better parts about for me,

898
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 9: like as an actor, doing my last role on So

899
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 9: Help Me Todd, was that I got to show people

900
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 9: that I can do comedy and like do all sorts

901
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 9: of stuff and not have to sing. Cool if Todd sang,

902
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 9: but I don't think that that's what that character would do.

903
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 9: So it was nice to not have to do that.

904
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 9: Yah or else. People are like, you're useless if you're

905
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 9: not singing, and I don't. I don't think I'm fully

906
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 9: useless without singing.

907
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: No, you have many other talents before you go, yes,

908
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: what is your toxic trait? But it's not that it's not.

909
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: Funny.

910
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 9: I like, don't close cabinets.

911
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 5: Oh, goody, I am marrying a man like you, and

912
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: I don't understand it.

913
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: It's just one more inch forward.

914
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 9: Can I help improve your marriage potentially?

915
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

916
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 9: Okay, here's why he might be doing it. Here's my

917
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 9: neurotic way of why I do it. I'll take something

918
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 9: out and in my head, I'm like, I need something

919
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 9: else from there, just not right now. So then I

920
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 9: will continue to do it, and then eventually it just

921
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 9: kind of stays open. I don't know if that helps

922
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 9: or not, but it comes from a good place. I

923
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 9: am telling you. There's this like I don't leave a

924
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 9: fridge open because that's that's that's another issue. Now you've

925
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 9: spoiled all of our food for our family. But no,

926
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 9: there's that cabinet feeling of like I don't I don't

927
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 9: know why that is, but I know where I'm coming from.

928
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 9: And when I say it out on a podcast, it

929
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 9: doesn't make sense. But I don't think it helps your

930
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 9: marriage or myself. But I'm telling you that's where it

931
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 9: comes from and and and that's that's at least why

932
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 9: I do it.

933
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: There's your relationship from the man doesn't mean to my more,

934
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: nut Meg, I'm so sorry. That's okay, so great talking here.

935
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for stopping by.

936
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 9: My pleasure.

937
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: Everybody, well, please welcome back Jason dra Yeah. Wow, that

938
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: was exciting. The fans were like crazy for y'all out there.

939
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 7: They are no joke, it was.

940
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: It was funny because I didn't you know, y know

941
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: that that phrase that you know, the catchphrase nineteen Yeah,

942
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: like we everybody thought it was not going to be

943
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: this weird, corny thing, and like the first time we

944
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: did it on the show, I had to find a

945
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: way to do it that made it not feel like

946
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: and now we're going to come up with a rallying cry,

947
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: you know. And then it turned into the rallying cry.

948
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: And like when you get a crowd like that in

949
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: that room and you say it, they all yell it back.

950
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: It became a cool thing when you got care on

951
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: said it was like the twelve of us, Yeah, we

952
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: yell it, and that feels like, yeah, we're gonna go

953
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: fight a fire team, you know. Yeah, But when like

954
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, a few hundred people yelling at.

955
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 7: You, that's kind of dope. It's crazy, it's kind of cool.

956
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 3: It's cool.

957
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: We've talked about this so much, we've been here.

958
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: We love you so much.

959
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: But also you were my first you're the first ever

960
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: scrubbing in.

961
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: I even came into the picture.

962
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, before Tanya, there was Jason.

963
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: Ye.

964
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 7: Nobody asked me to co host the show. So I'm

965
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 7: just saying, oh.

966
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 2: Wow, you've been pretty busy. I think you'd be hard

967
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: to get into the.

968
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 9: Studio another job.

969
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all, hey, we have a spin off of

970
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy. You want to be a part, It's only audio.

971
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: Just would you have a great voice?

972
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 7: Well? Thank you? Yeah, this is what this is about. Normal.

973
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: This morning, it was like even worse because I want

974
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: to sleep. At like three o'clock. Last night we were

975
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: watching the Fight.

976
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say anything else are you

977
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: when you come to things? Because you are. You have

978
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: such a special place in our hearts as not only

979
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, but all the Station nineteen fans like you're

980
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: such a like a legend on.

981
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: This like a Shondaland Darling.

982
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

983
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 7: I will take it. I will take it. Yeah, And

984
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 7: I get that.

985
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: And it's like, but you know who's really got that

986
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: mantle now? Katie Low's Scandal. Yeah, she did another series

987
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: for she did Inventing Anna that's right. So like we

988
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: joke about, like I was like, I think you're Shonda's

989
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: favored now.

990
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: No, once you you got once you get a streaming

991
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: one of her Netflix shows, one of Shonda's Netflix shows,

992
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: you get a Sash. We're getting you, ah darling, Sash

993
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: the Ambassador.

994
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to look. Hey, I want

995
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 7: to show up on Bridgerton.

996
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 9: Yeah.

997
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: But when when Station nineteen, when y'all found out it

998
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: was gonna be the last season, did you know that

999
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: you would be like, well, I'm were you like, I'm

1000
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: cool because I'm going back to crazy?

1001
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 7: No, not at all, not at all.

1002
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: I actually was like I was like, yo, well this

1003
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: may be the end of Bend because I was like,

1004
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, because look, I mean, as you see look,

1005
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, people die in Shondaland right like below, the

1006
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: characters can die, and sometimes that creates more story for

1007
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: the characters to stick around, right, And I was like,

1008
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, Bailey, you know, with three kids on our own, yaha, YadA, Yeah,

1009
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, that's an interesting story. I

1010
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. So I was like I

1011
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know what to expect.

1012
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 7: And I didn't think. I didn't.

1013
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: I also, at a certain point later in the season,

1014
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: I thought they're not going to end on that kind

1015
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: of a sour note kind of thing, so I thought, okay,

1016
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: so so maybe there's a chance. And then we had

1017
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: some conversations and then I knew that it'd be happening

1018
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: in some way fashion.

1019
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: Did you share with the other casts that were like,

1020
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: not I'm going to be returnable.

1021
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: It's weird, right, But no, it was like, you know, uh,

1022
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: they all kept saying you're going to go back to

1023
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: Grace and I was like, I don't know that, and

1024
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I genuinely was like I don't know. Yeah, and then uh,

1025
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: and then we started having the conversations and I was like,

1026
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know what's a level it would be. I

1027
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you know, Jesse Williams guest stars

1028
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: once or twice a season. You know, it's like they

1029
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: might be like, yeah, you can come back every once

1030
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: in a while, and I'm like, so then I got

1031
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: to go find a job, you know, brother, brother needs

1032
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: a suite, regular check. And we got three K, three

1033
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: kids and the mortgage, and then it just became a

1034
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: thing where it was clear that like, no, we really

1035
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: do want you back to be an integral part of this,

1036
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: which I was psyched for the big for me because

1037
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: like even more than I love Ben, I love Binley. Yeah,

1038
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: been ab able to get that relationship for me is

1039
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: like I love what it represents a television like you know,

1040
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: a black couple have been together forever, like through thick

1041
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: and thin, can drive each other crazy. We'll never leave

1042
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: each other, like you know, they're like, you know you'll

1043
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: die before not kill you. I won't kill you, but

1044
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: you'll die before I leave you. You might sleep on

1045
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: the couch for the next year, but you know we'll work.

1046
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: We'll work through whatever the problems are. I love representing

1047
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: that uh in television, And so I was just I

1048
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: was just happy that like they want to keep that going.

1049
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

1050
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like you've been in like the Grey's

1051
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: Land for how many seasons now?

1052
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: Well, according to Chandra Wilson, who was like encyclopedic knowledge

1053
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: of Grace, which really is like scary sometimes like her

1054
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: and Meg Marinis, the current show runner, they both like

1055
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: know everything.

1056
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 9: This is scary that I love that.

1057
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Of Like I really want to see that, like in

1058
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: fact it at d twenty three there was almost a challenge,

1059
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: like he was asking her, like, do you know what

1060
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: when what this person's first line was, this person's first

1061
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: surgery wasn't Meg generally knew it? That's Soandra knows that

1062
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of stuff too. Chandra told me that season six

1063
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: is when Ben showed up. That's crazy to see something

1064
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: like fifteen years.

1065
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've been in that.

1066
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 5: You've been in a lot of I'm using the right

1067
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: word iterations of Gray's cast so much. He loves the

1068
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 5: big word. She'll throw all the big word, but we

1069
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 5: never know if it's the right right.

1070
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: I get it right though, I'll use.

1071
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 5: It multiple times this episode iterations now yeah, yeah, yeah.

1072
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 5: So since you've seen so many iterations of the cast,

1073
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: who would you say, is like your best friend on

1074
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 5: like from the Grays cast?

1075
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 7: Oh? Me Jason or Ben's no you Jason me Jason?

1076
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 7: Oh wow, that's oh best friend? That's like?

1077
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: What do you hang with outside? Oh?

1078
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 7: You like McKidd and I will hang out a bit.

1079
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: Oh we're we're fans, now ya McKidd is.

1080
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 7: Here's the best Kevin mckid's story ever.

1081
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: My car, for whatever reason started acting up, and I

1082
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, while We're at work and the transport guys.

1083
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: It was late in the evening. Most of the transport

1084
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: guys had already left. So I'm like, you know, I'll

1085
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: just uber Homer whatever. We had a late scene. We're

1086
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: going late, like, we're gonna wrap probably around like after midnight.

1087
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: We know that the day was just getting worse because

1088
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: the surgery, and so keV was like, you know what

1089
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: I live in We live in the same neighborhood.

1090
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 7: We're both in that. You know.

1091
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: He's like, so I'll give you right home. I was like, cool, man,

1092
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And then the way they're shooting the scene,

1093
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: keV wrapped around twelve thirty and left, and I was like, cool,

1094
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just grab a cab or whatever. I

1095
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: wrap about two, like an hour and a half later,

1096
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I go back to trailers. Kevin McKidd is sitting in

1097
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: his truck. The man was waiting on me. I was like,

1098
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing here? He said, I

1099
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: was gonna give you a ride. And I was like,

1100
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: you may be one of the better people I have

1101
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: ever met, not just in Hollywood but in this world.

1102
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 7: I love kid. But then you've got like Jay Hayden is.

1103
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: We love We did a panel with him yesterday and

1104
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: we loved it. We loved it.

1105
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 7: Everybody loves them some J Hayden.

1106
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: Honestly, the dynamic of Station nineteen would have been a very,

1107
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: very very different place without Jay Hayden. He brings a

1108
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: level of heart that nobody's ready for because he's making

1109
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: everybody laugh so much, and then he'll turn around and

1110
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: like pierce you in the gut with like, you know,

1111
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: a really heartfelt moment kind of thing, and that's just Jay,

1112
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: not even you know. And then he brought that on,

1113
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, to the camera, you know, and so you know, yeah,

1114
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean everybody in that cast brought something different and

1115
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: I love him all for different reasons. Boris is you

1116
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: know my boy. Like we was you know, the uh

1117
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Black Male Leading Man Club. We've known

1118
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: each other. It's funny because like Shamar is here too,

1119
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, we've all seen each other and been dancing

1120
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: around each other and all been up for the same

1121
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: jobs and that sort of thing and known each other

1122
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: and been cool. And it's you and you hit a

1123
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: spot where you realize, if I use my competition, you

1124
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: make yourself nuts and it's also it's it's it's scarcity mentality,

1125
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, and.

1126
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 7: It's not useful.

1127
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: So you just get cool with everybody and and you're like,

1128
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: hey man, you see yo yo, who got that thing?

1129
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 7: But you know, oh yeah, that's good man. I enjoys that.

1130
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 7: Good luck with that.

1131
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: And then Boris and I finally got to work together

1132
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: on this, and I was like, I like this brother

1133
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: so much.

1134
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 7: Like we said, we just caught up at the US Open.

1135
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: Uh we did because you know, he he had went

1136
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: to college on a tennis scholarship, so I knew that

1137
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: he would probably be uh yeah. We do a lot

1138
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: of uh, we do a lot of tip. My wife

1139
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: was a big tennis fan, has made me a tennis nuts.

1140
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: So we we go. We've into winledon a few times

1141
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: and it's, uh, they're they're dope. They're different, very diferent,

1142
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: Like US Open is like very American, big, big sports,

1143
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: and it's like it's a blast, it's a party. Wimbledon

1144
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: is the most civilized thing on the planet. It's like,

1145
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, super show. But but we were at the

1146
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: US Open and all of a sudden, I get a

1147
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: text was down on my phone and it's a photo

1148
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: of us while we're sitting there, and I started figuring

1149
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: out angles and I look and I spot Boris looking

1150
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: up there and he's like spine.

1151
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 7: He's like you're looking at you. It was like stalker photo.

1152
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: You're like, what angle is this? Where is this person sitting?

1153
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 7: But like you know, but I mean, but you say

1154
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: best friend. It's hard because like, you know, no, I respected.

1155
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: We were our twenty fifth wedding anniversary were in Italy

1156
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: Baron Das Carlos Boris all caught up with us and

1157
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: we did a you know, family with my family and

1158
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: my wife had friends that she's you know, best friend

1159
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: from like third grade and some other some of our

1160
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: best friends, like we all met him, had a dinner.

1161
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: So we had like twenty five people or twenty three

1162
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: people out of dinner in.

1163
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: Twenty five year anniversary. Yeah yeah, yeah, tell me about that.

1164
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: What's the key? I know there's no like one thing,

1165
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 3: but like.

1166
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 7: How their keys the.

1167
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: Keys to write the books.

1168
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 7: But no, it's not like we have a perfect relationship

1169
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: in any way.

1170
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: Nobody is perfect.

1171
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: Nobody does exactly and it's perfect for us. You know,

1172
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: you know somebody who matches you're crazy to use that

1173
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: phrase that everbody uses, but this is the one that

1174
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: I tell people. I'm the guy who comes with like

1175
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the un sexy things that are like the real thing.

1176
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: You need to know, learn how to fight fair.

1177
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 7: People.

1178
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: When it's you know, when you're going to parties and

1179
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: when there's interesting things going on and the money's right

1180
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: and everything like that, everybody has a great time. That's

1181
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: how you start. Like, you know, we're dating. I'm spending

1182
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: money on you, you're spending You're buying me gifts, we're

1183
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: doing anything. You're doing special things for me, I'm doing

1184
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: special things for you. It's all great. But when it

1185
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: hits the fan and it gets stressful, and you're gonna argue.

1186
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: And if you're not arguing, somebody's not being honest, right,

1187
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: somebody's not being truthful about what's going on in their brain.

1188
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, so it's going you're gonna argue

1189
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: at some point in time.

1190
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 7: How do you fight?

1191
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah with you people who don't fight fair, who say

1192
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: something settled and then bring it up a year later, No,

1193
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: we finished that. Yeah, you don't bring it up if

1194
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not settled, don't say it settled, like and we'll

1195
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: actually be like, Okay, we're gonna put a pin in that,

1196
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what.

1197
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: So I resonate with that so much because my fiance

1198
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 5: and I broke up for a short period of time.

1199
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: We broke up for like two months, and when we

1200
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: got back together, I was like asking him like five

1201
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 5: thousand questions about what happened when we were broken up

1202
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 5: and who did he kiss and what did he do

1203
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: and da da da da, and but we.

1204
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: Had already we had already decided we're going to get

1205
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: back together. We're going to give this another shot.

1206
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 5: And he was like, if you And then months we'll

1207
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 5: go by and I'd keep asking more questions about who

1208
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 5: he saw and who he kissed, and he goes, if

1209
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 5: we we've made the decision that, like we are getting

1210
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 5: back together, and we talked through all these things.

1211
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: We have to put that in the past. We can't

1212
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: keep bringing these things up. And I was like, that's

1213
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: such a good.

1214
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: Do you really want to know? Like you think you

1215
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: want to know, but do you really want Yeah?

1216
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: I did at the time. I did.

1217
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I wanted to know like every single detail.

1218
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to know if you can actually if

1219
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, can you just handle it? And put it

1220
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: down right.

1221
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: But then once you really once you move past that fighter,

1222
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: and once you move past that whatever that is, it's like, yeah,

1223
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 5: you're right, you can't keep calling back.

1224
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: Well, I forgave you for this, so you need to

1225
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: forgive me for this. Yeah.

1226
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: And the other thing in that same vein of the

1227
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: fight fair is I jokingly call it a safe word,

1228
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: you know, like not that I'm into bedis sim or

1229
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: anything like that, but I know people, but it's that

1230
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: when when an argument hits that spot.

1231
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 7: Where it's really about crossing over.

1232
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: Somebody that's about to cross the mind. Somebody's about to

1233
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: say something that you can't take back. You just whatever,

1234
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: califlower whatever that random word is that like you wouldn't

1235
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: normally say any sentence and that's you know, or you

1236
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: just literally say time out because we're about to go places.

1237
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 7: That we can't take beast.

1238
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when somebody says that it's a little cold

1239
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: water in everybody's face. You take a half hour, and

1240
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: almost every time you come back and I was being

1241
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: an idiot, I'm sorry, and everybody's apologizing and then great

1242
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: sex afterwards, and so it's good.

1243
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 2: I hate they're coming back and saying like, I'm sorry,

1244
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: I was dumb. That's like my least favorite. But you

1245
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 2: have to do it.

1246
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody likes it, but you got to do it.

1247
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 3: You have to do it.

1248
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: I love that advice does your wife is she's just

1249
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: so great that you've had the same love interest on

1250
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: TV this many years.

1251
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: Look, she got It's funny because she she I actually

1252
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: met her before I know I wanted to be an actor.

1253
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: We met in college and like before I started, you know.

1254
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: And so she's seen me kiss a lot of different

1255
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: women who are not her uh.

1256
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 7: And educate that. Right, she's not in the industry.

1257
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: She's a she's a poet uh and writer and teaches

1258
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: at universities and that sort of thing. And so but okay,

1259
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: I'll write her out on this one. I was recurring

1260
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: as Ben as a guest star, but I wasn't a

1261
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: series regular, and I've been a series regular and off

1262
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: the map and I was and I didn't have a

1263
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: series regular gig, and you know, guest star money is

1264
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: a fraction of what I earned as a series regular.

1265
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 7: And we had just bought a house and it was

1266
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 7: a whole thing.

1267
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: So she's like, you need to get out there, and

1268
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: you need to get you need to get like a contract,

1269
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: gig right. We're at a birthday party, a kid's birthday party,

1270
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: kid's birthday party, preschool, and we run into a showrunner

1271
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: that I know, this writer, great writer, Rina Mamoon, who

1272
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: was working on a show at the time called Mistresses.

1273
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: The show is called Mistresses, primetime show named Mistress. And

1274
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: she goes, oh, but you're on grades, aren't you. You're

1275
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: not available, And my wife just reaches across me go

1276
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: he's available, And I'm like, did you just pimp me

1277
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: out for Mistress?

1278
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 7: Like my only job would be to get naked and

1279
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 7: just get business.

1280
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: So like she's like, hey, man, get out there, little

1281
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: pat on the button, say go get to the street

1282
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: corner and make mama some money. And so, you know,

1283
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: so I stuck face with Alissa Milano for a couple of.

1284
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Years, you know, did what you had to do for

1285
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: the fan.

1286
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: And this is you know, shout out to Alyssa, who

1287
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: is a good friend. Every dude I called I grew

1288
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: up with is calling me going, dude, that was my childhood.

1289
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I know, I know, it's your childhood crush. Listen,

1290
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm living your dream, I got it,

1291
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: keep it moving. And you know the secret secret of

1292
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: that one though, the whole kissing other women is just

1293
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: just introduce him early.

1294
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, once you meet face to face.

1295
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: And she realizes that woman has no designs on your man,

1296
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: it's all good. She's so chill with it, like she

1297
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: doesn't even think about it anymore, because you know, you know,

1298
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming home right.

1299
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: You're taking out the trash.

1300
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's literally the phrase I called. I was like,

1301
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 7: just take out the trash, get the ego down.

1302
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: It's not before you go. What is your toxic trait?

1303
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 7: My toxic trade?

1304
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: The non toxic version of it is, I'm long winded

1305
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get all the thoughts and all

1306
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: the you know, the facts in.

1307
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1308
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: The toxic version of it is, uh, my kids will

1309
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: tell you. I will speech you find on them at

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00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: a heartbeat. The dad's speech is real, like I don't

1311
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: need to put them in. I don't need to give

1312
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: him put them on restriction for like a you know,

1313
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: a week or two weeks or a month. Like, no,

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Speaker 1: you go sit here and listen to the speech forty

1315
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: five minutes. Now, this is shouldn't have done it in

1316
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Speaker 1: the first place.

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: Guess what, that's a good punishment actually, like to make

1318
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: them sit and just like give them this speech.

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Speaker 3: Is like speech is off the cuff like that, that's

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Speaker 3: the skill.

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Speaker 7: It's you know, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm just basically doing monologues from you know, let's see

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Speaker 1: that was season three, episode four.

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 7: That's a good one. Yeah, monologues from shows I watched

1325
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 7: as a kid.

1326
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of you know,

1327
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: who's the boss and you know monologue.

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Speaker 7: No.

1329
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: But the other the other thing is you start those

1330
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: those speeches. This is what the kids hate is you

1331
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: start them off with asking them questions. That was my

1332
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: mom's secret weapon questions. You're like, you know, and you

1333
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: really want to answer it, like, so when you stole

1334
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: the car in the middle of the night, and by

1335
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: the way, it's my car, so you did steal it,

1336
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: how did you think that was going to work out?

1337
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: And she sits and waits for an answer, and you're like,

1338
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Speaker 1: do you really want to answer? And she's like, oh, yes,

1339
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: yes I do. And you're like, I hate my life

1340
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: so much. I wish I had different parents. I had

1341
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: to live through that. So now they got to live

1342
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: through that. That's that's how that that's how the big

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00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: speech starts.

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Speaker 2: Whatever they did worked on you because you were an amazing.

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Speaker 5: Human honestly, honestly, Jason, George will follow you, every follow you.

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Speaker 2: Any iteration.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

1348
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Speaker 2: I'm glad and it all started with me, however, good

1349
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason. We love you.