WEBVTT - Defining Our Terms

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's good to define our terms, even for those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who do this every day for a living

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin maximalist, bridge ship, crypto, bridge, Bitcoin, blocorn steaky. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Marie Ishmael, Managing editor of Crypto for Bloomberg News,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Bloomberg Crypto, a new daily Bloomberg I

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<v Speaker 1>Heeart podcast. It's Monday, June six. You might already consider

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<v Speaker 1>crypto to be synonymous with the word volatility, But what

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<v Speaker 1>about all the other words that get thrown around by enthusiasts.

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<v Speaker 1>What's staking all about? What's a bridge? And why are

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<v Speaker 1>so many folks on Twitter sending messages that just say

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<v Speaker 1>GM Joining me today, Bloomberg reporters Hannah Milla and Vildanna

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<v Speaker 1>Hodrick are here to help with a crypto glossary. I

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<v Speaker 1>am really glad to be joined today by two truly

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<v Speaker 1>excellent colleagues of mine. One is Hannah Miller, who's joining

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<v Speaker 1>us from her home studio in San Francisco, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other is Voldana Hodrick, who's draining us from her home

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<v Speaker 1>studio in New York City. Thank you both. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk words today, which I suppose as journalist is

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<v Speaker 1>like what we do all the time anyway, but today

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna specifically talkwards when it comes to defining some

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<v Speaker 1>of the terms like a thrown around a lot in crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a word that's been in the news

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, or should say, two words that have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the news a lot. We're gonna kick things off

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<v Speaker 1>with algorithmic stable coins. Yeah, this has been such a

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<v Speaker 1>hot topic as of late, considering the crash of terror

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<v Speaker 1>USD coin. Algorithmic stable coins are pretty complex but also

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. They have their price maintained by a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with another cryptocurrency and also through just complex mathematical equations.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the case of Terra USD that was pegged

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<v Speaker 1>to the Luna token, and basically if the price of

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<v Speaker 1>one dropped, investors would be incentivized to buy the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hopes that this would maintain a peg for

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<v Speaker 1>USD coin and keep it close to a dollar. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so da old coins tell us more. An alt coin

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<v Speaker 1>is basically just any coin that isn't Bitcoin. You might

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<v Speaker 1>hear people referring to alts or alt coins alternative coins,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really just talking about any smaller token or

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<v Speaker 1>smaller coin that isn't bitcoin, And they also are in

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<v Speaker 1>the news recently just because we're having to sell off

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<v Speaker 1>in the crypto market and you see bitcoins sometimes holding

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<v Speaker 1>up just a lot better than some of these alternative coins,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're hearing people talking all coins and just

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<v Speaker 1>how much they've been suffering through the recent downturn. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin, what is a bitcoin maximal list? Yeah, bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>maximalist or you know Bitcoin maxi for sure. Um, they're

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<v Speaker 1>all in on Bitcoin, which is the most widely held cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people believe that the future is only for Bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be the only digital currency that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need. They don't care about all coins. They're basically

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<v Speaker 1>all in. And some people also consider this term to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little derogatory. Do the Bitcoin maxis consider this

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<v Speaker 1>m to be derogatory or do other people consider it

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<v Speaker 1>to be derogatory? You know, I've spoken to some maxis

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<v Speaker 1>who are proud to wear the label, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wear it as a badge of honor. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've also spoken to others who are like all in

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin, but they're like, don't call me that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it depends a bit on personal preference. Got it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was fun. So now let's go complicated crypto bridge. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So crypto bridge just have been in the news as

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<v Speaker 1>of late. Um we saw with the hack of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ronan bridge, which is essential to the Axi Infinity and

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<v Speaker 1>FT game. And crypto bridges basically connect different blockchains and

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<v Speaker 1>allow people to transfer digital assets from one block chain

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<v Speaker 1>to another. And there are questions about than being vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>and whether they pose a security risk because these are

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<v Speaker 1>very complex tools within the crypto space. Got it. So

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<v Speaker 1>a way for somebody to think about that is like

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<v Speaker 1>they act almost as translators, just mechanisms for you to

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<v Speaker 1>move something from a to B in one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>And people might think of bridges is like, well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a physical structure or here's a place, but like what

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<v Speaker 1>how do bridges work? Exactly? Like are these just software?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they programs? Are they companies? Like what are these things? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Their software? Um, you know, I think it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>visual seeing that bridge, but really at the end of today,

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<v Speaker 1>these are very complex pieces of software that could be

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<v Speaker 1>open to security flaws and holes that hackers can exploit.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a question of how do we make

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<v Speaker 1>these bridges safer? Well, Another thing that has certainly been

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<v Speaker 1>super topical is this idea of crypto winter. A great

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<v Speaker 1>chill has descended on the markets. A chill has descended

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<v Speaker 1>on the Market's what a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>But a crypto winter is just a prolonged stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>time where crypto prices are in a decline. So they

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<v Speaker 1>might be stagnant for a while, but you know, overall,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a major downturn in the market. When

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the winter, you're thinking about freezes, stagnation, unpleasantness,

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<v Speaker 1>really cold temperatures, and so that's exactly what crypto winter,

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<v Speaker 1>the term is supposed to emote. We had one back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eighteen when crypto prices were declining,

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<v Speaker 1>and we also have some people calling what's happening with

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<v Speaker 1>the market this year a crypto winter, just because we've

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<v Speaker 1>had this huge downturn in prices. One of the more

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose topical parts of crypto or the contrast between

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<v Speaker 1>what's called defy and trod FI or decentralized finance and

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<v Speaker 1>traditional finance. Traditional finance is a concept that I think

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<v Speaker 1>people pretty much understand right It's like it's the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of wall streets, it's banks, it's it's brokers, it's insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 1>What's defined exactly? Yeah, So DEFY is short for Decentralized

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<v Speaker 1>Finance UM, and basically it envisions a world where financial

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<v Speaker 1>transactions are conducted over blockchain and where middlemen like banks

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<v Speaker 1>or brokers are cut out. It hinges on peer to

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<v Speaker 1>peer transactions. So this is really what people see as

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<v Speaker 1>the future of finance if they're you know, big DEFIVE supporters,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's obviously really exciting stuff going on there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>concerns of a regulation and we've also seen two people

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<v Speaker 1>migrate from working in trad FI to DEFY, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I'm really interested in writing about. Right, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're going from like a citadel to a pure play

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<v Speaker 1>crypto company exactly now on the idea of pure play

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<v Speaker 1>crypto companies, there's also a concept of AX help me

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<v Speaker 1>understand or help our audiences understand what a dex is.

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<v Speaker 1>A dex is just a decentralized exchange. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about traditional financial markets, you're thinking about the stock market,

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<v Speaker 1>you might think of a stock exchange like the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Stock Exchange. Then nicey that has sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>a power structure in place, and a decentralized exchange is

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<v Speaker 1>something like a unit swap maybe you've heard of unit

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<v Speaker 1>swap or d y d X, where users can trade coins,

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<v Speaker 1>they can trade crypto derivatives, but it's anonymously and there

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<v Speaker 1>are no intermediaries, there are no banks involved. Earlier kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you mentioned acci Infinity and an FT game, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to this concept of game five, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, is a slightly misleading thing because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that any of the crypto games I've

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<v Speaker 1>played are actually fun, but I will leave that to

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<v Speaker 1>you to say more on. Yeah, game five is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting area that I love reporting on. UM it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, combination the words game and finance, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>it's a way to describe n f T and crypto

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<v Speaker 1>games that place a heavy emphasis on earning crypto tokens

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<v Speaker 1>through the game. And it's also connected to the term

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<v Speaker 1>play to earn, which would be something used to describe

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<v Speaker 1>a game like Acxie Affinity, where a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>main objective is focused on earning money. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people describe these sort of play to earn games

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<v Speaker 1>is just sort of financial tools and investment platforms with

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<v Speaker 1>debatable Yeah, basically it is a very charitable way of

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<v Speaker 1>pussing as Yes, but these these games do have people

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<v Speaker 1>playing them right there. There's a fairly lively ecosystem in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they've actually become part of the gig economy

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<v Speaker 1>in certain places like Accie Affinity is really popular in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines, and we saw a lot of interest grow

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<v Speaker 1>there during the pandemic when people were quarantined and at

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<v Speaker 1>home and you know, just on their computers all day.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's become a job for people in a way

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<v Speaker 1>to earn a living income. Got it, Thank you, Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>and Voldonna. We'll be right back with more terms from

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<v Speaker 1>our Bloomberg cryptoglossary. Well, we've said n f T a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times now, so now we get to explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>So n f T s are non fungible tokens. People,

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<v Speaker 1>if they know what they are, they might think of

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<v Speaker 1>them just as monkeys, but are what else are they?

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a super hot topic the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, especially since the pandemic has broken out. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, they're non fungible tokens. They basically just

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<v Speaker 1>allow holders of like an art piece or collectible to

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<v Speaker 1>track ownership of that art on the blockchain. So a

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<v Speaker 1>meme can be an n f T, art can be

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<v Speaker 1>an n f T. A clip of something that happened

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in a sports game, can also be an n

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<v Speaker 1>f T. Like I said, they were super popular last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The markets sort of come down a bit since then.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did have notably Ukraine selling their own n

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<v Speaker 1>f T s to fund their war efforts earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say I spent five which I'm not making up.

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<v Speaker 1>People have done that. Where would I show it off?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people show it off on their Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>profile pictures basically, or you might tell your friends about it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you might hold it in your your crypto wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's just code basically on the blockchain. That

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<v Speaker 1>seems less fun. This does seem fun. Talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>about ship coins. Yeah, it's okay for me to say

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<v Speaker 1>ship absolutely alight only on the show Cool Cool So

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<v Speaker 1>ship coins. Yeah. This is a derogatory term for cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>that are perceived to have little or no value and

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<v Speaker 1>no real discernible purpose. You know, we've seen it used

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<v Speaker 1>to describe things like meme coins like dodge coin, where

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<v Speaker 1>people are just like, this is dumb. To make matters

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<v Speaker 1>even more complicated, there actually is a cryptocurrency chitcoin, just

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<v Speaker 1>for maximum fun. Oh yeah, do we know what that

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<v Speaker 1>coin is trading at. I just looked it up, the

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<v Speaker 1>shipcoin cryptocurrencies trading it for actions of a scent appropriately

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<v Speaker 1>enough makes sense. Another concept that people say makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>but other folks have questions about is the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of who's going to talk to me about that? So

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<v Speaker 1>staking is when, if you're a crypto investor, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually let your coin be used to help facilitate

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<v Speaker 1>other transactions on the blockchain. So if you have some

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<v Speaker 1>coins laying around, you might actually deposit them in a

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<v Speaker 1>digital wallet, you lock it there, and then what you're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping is just to get rewards in return or a yield.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's almost like crypto screw. You agree to lock

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<v Speaker 1>up your your crypto for some amount of time, which

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<v Speaker 1>allows other people to make transactions on those things, and

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<v Speaker 1>in return you get paid a yield of some kind.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, you're hoping to get these rewards. You're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to get something in return. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger areas of controversy as it relates to staking, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a key element of DEFY is the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the yields that you're getting are just massive, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have your money in a bank, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have it there, and it means that the bank can

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<v Speaker 1>lend your money to other people in the form of loans,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting you know what, like sub fractions of a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage interest rates. There are folks in crypto that are

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<v Speaker 1>offering you know, a thousand percent a p y or

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<v Speaker 1>or even more like, how is that possible? It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>only possible in defy, really, And this has been such

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of like striking point of what's been happening

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto markets over the last couple of years. So

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<v Speaker 1>you had during the pandemic, you had really rock bottom

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<v Speaker 1>low interest rates, and so if you had cash sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around in your bank account, you really weren't earning very much.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what was happening in the DeFi space was

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<v Speaker 1>attracting a lot of attention because some of these yields,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, we're just astronomical, but really it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a function. It's a characteristic of the DeFi space.

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<v Speaker 1>Another characteristic of the DeFi space or something that describes

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<v Speaker 1>the characteristic of the defied space is tv L. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that stand for and what does it mean? Standsford

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<v Speaker 1>Total value locked and this for first to how on

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<v Speaker 1>DeFi platforms people will deposit crypto and the hopes of

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<v Speaker 1>earning interest and yield. The processes like lending and TBL

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<v Speaker 1>just basically refers to the total value of those deposited

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<v Speaker 1>assets on a DeFi protocol. So it's almost like assets

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<v Speaker 1>under management exactly. Another sort of big concept that gets

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<v Speaker 1>thrown around the laws, especially by venture capitalists, is this

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of Web three. What I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from you is what web three is and what

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't. Web three is just a brand new version

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<v Speaker 1>of the Worldwide Web basically, but it's built on the blockchain.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think about the Internet that we have currently,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people might argue that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tech companies that have just taken so much

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<v Speaker 1>ownership there and they just control so much of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Web three sort of shifts the power back to the

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<v Speaker 1>user away from some of the tech come niece that

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<v Speaker 1>have sort of been sucking up all of our data

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<v Speaker 1>and selling all of our data and information to advertisers,

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<v Speaker 1>so gives the ownership back to the users. How is

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<v Speaker 1>that actually happening or is that like the sales pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very debatable. It's a super hot topic, um within

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<v Speaker 1>you know, venture capital investing in crypto, especially, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when investors are putting a lot of money in platforms

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for tokens that give them control over how

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<v Speaker 1>the platform is managed. So they're getting these massive amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of tokens that give them voting rights in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how you know, a protocol is moving forward, and they

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<v Speaker 1>help shape how it exists. Um And they can also

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<v Speaker 1>stand to benefit enormously if the protocol takes off. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an area of debate whether or not web

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<v Speaker 1>threes actually decentralized space. Because in an actually decentralized space,

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<v Speaker 1>like we could all quit our jobs and sell art

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<v Speaker 1>on the blockchain and monetize that art directly and you

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<v Speaker 1>know not need agents or brokers or or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not so we are happening at scale yet,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. I mean we've seen attempts, We've seen you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things pop up like decentralized social media networks, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting applications. But Web three is only of the

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<v Speaker 1>way there, and I've heard that from people who are

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<v Speaker 1>really gung how about the space? Okay, well, a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening today is yield farming. I am not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to yield farm because I am a reporter reposing on finance,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people are and they're making money. You tell

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<v Speaker 1>us how this works. Yeah, so yield farming. You make

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<v Speaker 1>your crypto work for you. You want to earn interest

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<v Speaker 1>through things like lending out your crypto. You might actually

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<v Speaker 1>get a new coin in exchange for lending your own holdings.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like a pretty exciting area where people

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<v Speaker 1>think that they can make a make a big buck on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lending out their crypto. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big I don't know, perhaps more fun parts of crypto

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<v Speaker 1>is the idea that like there's literally a meme for everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's also some acronyms that people throw

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<v Speaker 1>around a lot. You know, I will have um friends say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep seeing these people like typing on Twitter GM

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<v Speaker 1>or w A g M I and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what these things mean. Help me, So let's translate a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of those two. This is one of the more

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<v Speaker 1>fun parts of the crypto space. So you have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the crypto dialogue and discourse taking place on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might see people log on in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say GM, which means good morning, g N means

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<v Speaker 1>good night. So you have a lot of people talking

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<v Speaker 1>to each other through these memes or acronyms. So just

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<v Speaker 1>to give you maybe a quick rundown of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the more popular ones. Is just an aspirational meme that

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<v Speaker 1>refers to Lamborghini's where a couple of years ago, during

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<v Speaker 1>a huge crypto boom in two thousand seventeen, you've had

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<v Speaker 1>people buying really fancy fancy sports cars and showing them

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<v Speaker 1>off at different crypto conferences, and so you have people

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<v Speaker 1>sort of saying when Lambo, as in, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to hit the riches. Lf G is

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<v Speaker 1>another abbreviation. It means let's blank and yes. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a rallying cry for people in the crypto space.

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<v Speaker 1>H f SP means that actually it's a taunt. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>see it on Twitter all the time. It's pretty derogatory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know when somebody is sort of calling out

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<v Speaker 1>crypto for whatever bad influence it's having, or for lack

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<v Speaker 1>of regulation, or for prices crashing, or for anything that

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of been negative in the crypto space. Crypto

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<v Speaker 1>fans might reply with h f SP, have fun staying poor,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure in the past couple of weeks those

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<v Speaker 1>crypto critics are now replying to crypto fans with h

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<v Speaker 1>f SP. They might be. There's a lot of interesting, fun,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy stuff happening on Twitter in regards to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of McDonald's applications being passed around. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>what else should our listeners know? How can they go

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<v Speaker 1>bravely forth into the crypto wonderlandes and know what people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about? Yeah? No, I mean, there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>information online for people to sift through that it can

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to cut through the noise. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>some really good educational resources out there where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can learn about these terms and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figure out your own way within the space. And basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I also think the new rule is if it exists

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto, there's a meme a bit. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a sense of humor when looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this space. D y o R means do your own

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<v Speaker 1>research exactly. That's a popular one and very linked to

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<v Speaker 1>what Hannah was saying. Fact, there's always always a way

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<v Speaker 1>to find something out. The problem is not everything that's

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<v Speaker 1>out there is necessarily reliable. But hey, um, well this this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is great. I'm going to just send this episode

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<v Speaker 1>around any time anybody in my family sends me what's

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<v Speaker 1>up and they're like, what does this mean? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>here you go. Here's Hannah and hold on explaining this

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<v Speaker 1>to you. So thank you so much both of you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. It has been a real pleasure and

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to having you back on again soon. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having us. You can find more of all

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<v Speaker 1>Donna and Hannah's reporting on the Bloomberg Terminal, on Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine and vil Donna is at Vildanna Hadrick on

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode of Bloomberg. Crypto Fidelity, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest investment managers in the world, made headlines when it

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<v Speaker 1>announced its intention to offer clients the ability to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto through their four oh one Keve retirements accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>In such a volatile environment, is it a risky bet

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<v Speaker 1>to add digital assets to your retirement plan. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Bloomberg reported Susann Woollie about the recent history of

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<v Speaker 1>four O one, key investments in crypto, and why the

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<v Speaker 1>US Labor Department is less than enthusiastic about fidelities move.

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