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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ Is King.

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Speaker 5: Is an in Trump's scheduled to meet with Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 5: on US soil. The leader is said to meet on

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Speaker 5: discuss terms for Indian Russia's invasion of Ukraine, along with

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Speaker 6: I think that President Putin would like to see a deal.

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Speaker 7: I think if I weren't president, he would take over

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Speaker 6: But I am president, and he's not going to mess

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Speaker 5: Putin is praising Trump's quote energetic and sincere efforts to

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Speaker 5: stop the hostilities. Ukrainian President Zelensky was not invited to

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Speaker 5: today's summit. President Trump suggested the meeting with Putin could

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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a good meeting, but

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Speaker 7: the more important meeting will be the second meeting that

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Speaker 3: It's the first time, I should add in about a

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Speaker 8: There is the President making his way up to the

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Speaker 6: We also know guys who the President's going to be

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Speaker 7: Radcliffe will be part of the enclave.

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Speaker 10: Zelenski, concerned about Trump's support for an exchange of territory,

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Speaker 11: Trump said today that he estimates the chance of failure

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Speaker 12: We never make any predictions in events. We know that

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Speaker 12: we have arguments, we have a clear and understandable position,

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Speaker 7: I'm not doing this for my health, Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: And now we're taking a look at Alaska live right

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Speaker 1: now in anticipation of the presidential summit with Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 13: We'll keep you posted on that. Welcome to human events.

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Speaker 1: I'm Bo Davidson, filling in for the great Jack Kasobok,

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Speaker 1: who is on Air Force one right now, is part

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Speaker 1: peace hangs in the balance in Alaska today. These are

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Speaker 1: the historic Anchorage Accords. We are expecting Air Force one

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Speaker 1: the private meeting that could potentially, potentially ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: will this conversation go well? President Trump has indicated that

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 1: We hope and pray for peace and a lasting piece

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Speaker 1: and an end to the killing that's what President Trump

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Speaker 1: is indicated now. Overnight Russia launched two ballistic missiles into

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Speaker 1: And let's talk about some of the history here in

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Speaker 1: Some out there have already nominated Trump for the Nobel

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the undesirable one, which is that they meet,

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Speaker 1: And then there is this idea of land for peace

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Speaker 1: very important. Now Russia's economy is in trouble. The price

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Speaker 1: Who facilitated the release of sixteen Ukrainian prisoners. Now they're

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Speaker 1: discussing now the release of thirteen hundred more. That's clearly

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Speaker 1: a good sign. But not attending today's summit is Voladimir Zelensky.

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Speaker 13: One as well, so In the name of peace.

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Speaker 1: You have to wonder what carrots will President Trump be

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Speaker 7: Will stand in our way and our golden age has

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Speaker 1: This human events which are sober now it's time for

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Speaker 7: Welcome to the Second American Revolution?

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Speaker 14: can't tell you that. I don't know. There's nothing set

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Speaker 7: Europe's not telling me what to do, but they're going

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Speaker 6: But I want to see a ceasefire rapidly.

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Speaker 6: I'm in this to stop the killing.

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Speaker 7: They lost last week, seven and eleven people were lost

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Speaker 13: Steve, What a day?

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Speaker 15: What a day?

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Speaker 1: What an occasion? With peace hanging in the balance. Now,

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Speaker 16: It is a remarkable day, to say the least, look

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Speaker 16: at the irony of it all. Meeting in Alaska, former

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Speaker 16: Fifty nine percent of a poll I just saw today

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Speaker 16: Maybe that's true, maybe it is, But he's there, he's

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Speaker 16: he's tried to end a war that kills five thousand

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Speaker 4: More people have died in this war.

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Speaker 16: Than died in the first two years of the war

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Speaker 16: Having said that, I don't believe FORMEA is ever going

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Speaker 16: I don't believe that Don Boss is going back to Ukraine.

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Speaker 16: I believe that this is the same situation we've been

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Speaker 16: It's very complex, as Donald Trump has said for a

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Speaker 16: Trump works, He puts it together, he straights it, and

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Speaker 16: all of a sudden he pulls off a summit in Alaska,

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Speaker 16: first time in ten years that Vladimir Putin has been

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Speaker 16: Russian soil. I think that you cannot lose that irony.

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Speaker 16: And Donald Trump does these things for a reason. And

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Speaker 16: I don't think this was accidental at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, little faith, beware right, don't underestimate. I think

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Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo said just as much when he was meeting

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Speaker 1: and so that could happen to day. We pray that

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Speaker 4: Stop the games.

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Speaker 16: As I recall, Barack Obama solved exactly zero wars before

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Speaker 16: He is the most peace obsessed president of my lifetime,

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Speaker 4: It's pretty remarkable what we're watching.

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Speaker 1: I think that we're at a moment of such unique

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Speaker 1: And everybody thought that Donald Trump was going to get

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Speaker 1: I got to get your take though, on what is

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Speaker 16: Well, one cannot avoid the echoes of Yalta nineteen forty five,

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Speaker 16: It's a slow grind. It's five thousand people a week,

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Speaker 16: And for Russia, I believe saving face here saying we're

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Speaker 16: At least they got something out of it. For Ukraine,

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Speaker 16: It's their seaport. They're not going to give that up.

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Speaker 1: Anchorage Accords today. Now to touch off where we left

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Speaker 1: I'd like to get your assessment of where we are

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, that's really what we're up against. You know,

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Speaker 9: a here in cal I'm actually in California reporting outside Riverside,

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Speaker 9: and you go across the state here, it's you know,

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Speaker 9: you're you're talking about people and neighborhoods that are as

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Speaker 9: close as you can see the neighborhoods behind me. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's streets that separate some of these communities that once

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Speaker 9: were Ukraine and now belonged to Russia, or once we're

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Speaker 9: Russia and became Ukraine. But the people that selves, the families, themselves,

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Speaker 9: the religion, their their culture, their identity, very very similar.

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Speaker 9: And so it's it's a really ugly thing to see firsthand.

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Speaker 9: You talk about the generation loss, you know, million lost,

451
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Speaker 9: over a million loss. It's just it's tragic. Nobody wants it,

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Speaker 9: and the well, I shouldn't say nobody wants it. Clearly

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Speaker 9: President Trump doesn't want it. That's why he's been fighting

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Speaker 9: to end it. There are a lot of people that

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Speaker 9: did want it, clearly. You know, in the last administration,

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Speaker 9: we spent billions and billions of dollars to watch more

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Speaker 9: people die. And so that's my prayer is that this

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Speaker 9: can end, that we can stop the killing unnecessarily, and

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Speaker 9: hopefully it becomes a win win win. We'll see what

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Speaker 9: the end holds and what kind of resolution that you know,

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Speaker 9: what kind of peace negotiates and they can come up with.

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Speaker 17: Obviously that's the big question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much hanging in the balance. And again

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the battle of souls here too. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got to focus on the sole component two of

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Speaker 1: the life loss too. Well, Ben, you know you deal

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Speaker 1: so much with our southern border. We've seen you down

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Speaker 1: their law and border, so you know a lot about

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Speaker 1: borders and they're integrity and how important they are. On

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Speaker 1: the Air Force one gaggle earlier, President Trump was asked

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Speaker 1: about territorial land swaps of Russian Ukraine and if maybe

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Speaker 1: we can get this in a quad box since I

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Speaker 1: know we have to keep an eye on Air Force one.

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Speaker 1: But let's take a listen to this clip from the

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Speaker 1: gag and I want to get your reaction.

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Speaker 13: On the other side. Are the territorial swaps on the table?

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Speaker 13: Will you be discussing.

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Speaker 7: Now they'll be discussed, but I've got to let Ukraine

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Speaker 7: make that decision, and I think they'll make a proper decision.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not here to negotiate for Ukraine. I'm here

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Speaker 7: to get him at a table, and I think you

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Speaker 7: have two sides. Look, Vladimir Putin wanted to take all

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Speaker 7: of Ukraine. If I wasn't president, he would right now

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Speaker 7: be taking all of Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: But he's not gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: So, Ben, territorial land swaps. Is that what you think

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Speaker 1: we could see today, because you know, so let's get

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Speaker 1: is saying he's not gonna give anything else up.

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Speaker 13: That's what he says.

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Speaker 1: But is this what we could see today as a

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Speaker 1: possible outcome as a land swap.

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Speaker 9: Well, Zelenski's in a tough spot. I mean, he's putting

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Speaker 9: himself in this position. He's has made a lot of

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Speaker 9: big claims about this. And getting back to the last

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Speaker 9: question you asked me about the the you know, the

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Speaker 9: the proximity of a lot of these communities.

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Speaker 17: There's proximity.

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Speaker 9: There's also there's love in some of these communities, there's

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Speaker 9: connection to families in some of these communities. There's also

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Speaker 9: a lot of hate there's a disdain for the Russian Empire,

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Speaker 9: for the USSR, for the history of that, for for

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Speaker 9: the KGB, and and what Russia was to a lot

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Speaker 9: of these communities. And so there there is On the

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Speaker 9: Ukraine side, there are a lot of people that don't

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Speaker 9: want to give up anything. But you're also in a

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Speaker 9: position where if you don't, how many more deaths, how

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Speaker 9: many more lives, how many more young people are gonna

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Speaker 9: use lose, how many how much more of this generation

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Speaker 9: will you not.

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Speaker 17: Be able to replace?

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Speaker 9: So it's clearly it's on the table how much how

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Speaker 9: much will they'll give up?

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Speaker 17: I agree with Steve.

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Speaker 9: I don't think Russia is going to give back anything

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Speaker 9: that they've taken. And the saddest part about this is

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Speaker 9: this really started because of forces external forces, NATO basically

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Speaker 9: going into Ukraine saying we'll bring you to the table,

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Speaker 9: and Russia saying that's a deal breaker, You're going to

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Speaker 9: start a war.

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Speaker 17: And we allowed that to happen.

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Speaker 9: We were part of it under Obama, pushing those those conversations,

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Speaker 9: and now we've seen, you know, over a decade of

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Speaker 9: lives lost because of it. So when it comes to it,

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Speaker 9: you got to ask the question what's more important land

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Speaker 9: or lives?

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Speaker 17: And I think that's the big.

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Speaker 9: The question that's going to be asked and the and

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Speaker 9: the answer that's going to have to be answered by

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Speaker 9: both sides.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you have to respect the Ukrainians. They

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Speaker 1: have fought valiantly. They fought where people thought that they

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Speaker 1: This went in a long time ago. And as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it seems Zelensky is unwilling to yield any further land

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Speaker 1: to Russia. But Trump said he's not there to negotiate

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Speaker 1: for Ukraine. Uh, They've got to make that decision for themselves.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that Zelensky is as ready for

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Speaker 1: peace as he stated?

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Speaker 13: Or are we going to find some sticking points?

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Speaker 9: I I don't know what it's taken, how it's taken

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Speaker 9: Zalnsy this long to get to this point. You know again,

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Speaker 9: when I was there two years ago, it was clear

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Speaker 9: this was not going to end well. I mean, we

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Speaker 9: were getting bombed, we were had missiles landing in our neighborhood.

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Speaker 9: I mean I was woken up to a missile landing

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Speaker 9: less than a mile from where I was staying, and

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Speaker 9: I thought, how much longer can this country sustain this

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Speaker 9: and the only reason they stayed in the war. They

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Speaker 9: continued it was because Joe Biden and the Democrats continue

550
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Speaker 9: to pump arms into him, and all of the globalists

551
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Speaker 9: that want forever wars kept pumping money and arms into them.

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Speaker 9: I think having President Trump at the table, not negotiating

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Speaker 9: for Ukraine, simply negotiating for peace. I think Zelensky's in

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Speaker 9: a place where he has to realize this is over.

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Speaker 9: He just has to come out, you know, figure out

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Speaker 9: a way of coming out of it with the best

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Speaker 9: option for his country. I don't think he, you know,

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Speaker 9: if he's coming into this with the best option for himself,

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Speaker 9: I don't see any good options.

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Speaker 17: I agree with Steve.

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Speaker 9: I think his political days are numbered, but he's he's

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Speaker 9: simply got to come into it and say, how do

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Speaker 9: I get the most for the people of this country

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Speaker 9: if I if that's what his actual intent is, and

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Speaker 9: how do we get out of this thing in the

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Speaker 9: fastest time possible. I mean, it's been it's been too

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Speaker 9: long already. But again I can't speak for him, just

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Speaker 9: like President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen you know, so many We've seen the

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Speaker 1: Ukraine pins. We've seen a lot of Democrats voice unending

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Speaker 1: support for Ukraine. My question is, Okay, we know Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin's probably not a guy to be trusted, But is

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Zelinsky a guy to be trusted. We saw what

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Speaker 1: happened when he came to DC. I didn't work out

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Speaker 1: so well. He didn't seem like he came in earnest,

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Speaker 1: ready for peace. So is this a guy that can

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Speaker 1: be trusted?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, I'll say the same thing I said when

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Speaker 9: I went to Ukraine. When I was there, I don't

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Speaker 9: trust Vladimir Putin anymore than I trust Vladimir Zelensky anymore

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Speaker 9: than I trusted Joe Biden. At the time. I didn't

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Speaker 9: trust any of them. And it's one of those things.

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Speaker 9: It's it's the trust but verify Reagan model. I don't

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Speaker 9: think you trust them at all. I think you set

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Speaker 9: some boundaries and you follow those boundaries. If you come

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Speaker 9: up with the peace deal, there's got to be some

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Speaker 9: clear boundaries that those will be decided, and then if

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Speaker 9: they're broken, then obviously you know there's there's consequences to that.

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Speaker 9: But no, to short answers, I don't trust any I

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Speaker 9: mean I trust President Trump, but the other two I

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Speaker 9: don't trust putin ord Zelenski. But they're in a place

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Speaker 9: now where they just have to make a decision for

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Speaker 9: their what's best for their country. So hopefully they make

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Speaker 9: that sere costs will that be? Yeah, exactly at what

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Speaker 9: costs will be? Especially said, if you go ahead, go ahead?

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Speaker 9: Well no, I mean you look at what President Trump's

597
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Speaker 9: already doing with Thailand and Cambodia and all of these

598
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Speaker 9: peace deals that are already going on. That's clearly his

599
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Speaker 9: desire to see peace in the world, to see these countries,

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Speaker 9: you know, not be killing themselves, to see economic prosperity,

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Speaker 9: not just in our country but globally. And so that's

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Speaker 9: that's my prayer is for not just that region, but

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Speaker 9: for the entire globe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Russia seems to have been winning the war

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Speaker 1: of attrition on this they seem to be able to

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Speaker 1: outlast it for this particular period of time. And there's

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Speaker 1: this idea that Jack Bisoba has spoken about. The reason

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Speaker 1: Trump has been kept moving the deadline up and up

609
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Speaker 1: and up is because if he didn't, Ukraine's gonna run

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Speaker 1: out of people, They're gonna run out of troops, and

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Speaker 1: they're just they're on their last thread. So that's something

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Speaker 1: we do in to discuss as we keep going on here.

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Speaker 1: I do think we have Brian Glenn now, who was

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Speaker 1: on Air Force one. Brian, can you hear me?

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Speaker 13: Okay, ay, bo I can hear you.

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Speaker 8: I did not travel in on Air Force warn this time,

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Speaker 8: so I came in yesterday prior to the president.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, sure, okay, Well even so you got there

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Speaker 1: a day early. Brian set the scene for us about

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Speaker 1: what's going on right now. You know, he said if

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Speaker 1: this meeting goes poorly, that it'll be in and out

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Speaker 1: and he'll head back to DC. He's got bigger fish

623
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Speaker 1: to fry. But what's your take. Do you think this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a two minute meeting and he's

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Speaker 1: going to turn around and go back or are you

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Speaker 1: more optimistic.

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Speaker 12: Now?

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Speaker 8: I'm a little bit more optimistic than I was maybe

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Speaker 8: six months ago on this. I think these conversations do

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Speaker 8: extend longer than you would think. I do am optimistic.

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Speaker 8: As far as who's coming with President put We've got

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Speaker 8: some business leaders, some business huge financial people in Russia

633
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Speaker 8: traveling with Putin to come here, which makes me think

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Speaker 8: that there is some type of maybe economic deal that

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Speaker 8: will develop in regards to achieving peace with Ukraine.

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Speaker 15: Let me set the scene for you real quickly. Where

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Speaker 15: I'm at.

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Speaker 8: I'm inside the media tent here just outside where the

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Speaker 8: arena there. The stage, if you will, is right behind

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Speaker 8: me where the two will meet. This is kind of

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Speaker 8: a makeshift media tent that the military hare is set up.

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Speaker 8: They've also got kind of a mess hall, if you will,

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Speaker 8: kind of a break room. It's got food, snack, strinks, coffee,

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Speaker 8: things like that. They've really done a good job accommodating

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Speaker 8: the media. Now. The amount of media here today is

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Speaker 8: like no other event that I've ever been to. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: this is just I would say hundreds, if you will.

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Speaker 8: I'm on the US side. Obviously across from me over

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Speaker 8: there that is the Russian media. They're all we've got

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Speaker 8: two separate areas, two separate work tents, but we're all

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Speaker 8: working together under one tent. And of course I think

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Speaker 8: all of us want us to see peace come out

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Speaker 8: of this deal.

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Speaker 15: A little bit later today, what's.

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Speaker 1: The feeling like there? I know you're on the US

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Speaker 1: media side. Could you cut the tension with agensu knife

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Speaker 1: at this point?

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Speaker 8: You know, I would say everyone's kind of silent you know,

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Speaker 8: we the three hour process it was to get in here,

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Speaker 8: as far as going through security, sweeping the buses and

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Speaker 8: things like that, it was it was a process this

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Speaker 8: morning to get to here. Once the media arrived here,

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Speaker 8: then it was everyone had to find a place to

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Speaker 8: set up, get situated with the staging area behind me.

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Speaker 8: So it's been a very very busy last hour and

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Speaker 8: a half. So it hasn't been a whole lot of

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Speaker 8: conversations going on. A lot of people just trying to

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Speaker 8: get the workspaces up, but obviously everyone is, you know,

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Speaker 8: anticipating this meeting. Now, just moments ago, we heard a

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Speaker 8: plane land. I'm presuming it's Air Force one because he

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Speaker 8: was scheduled to land at ten ten here local time,

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Speaker 8: and it was about ten ten when that happened. So

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Speaker 8: I'm assuming that President Trump is on the ground here now.

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Speaker 8: President Putin is scheduled to land at eleven am here

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Speaker 8: local time, so really probably here in just a few minutes,

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Speaker 8: we should hear another plane start to land. So once

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Speaker 8: we have these two leaders on the ground bow then

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Speaker 8: they're going to go into a bilateral me And as

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Speaker 8: this whole conversation has developed, how long when the meeting last.

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Speaker 8: President Trump has said numerous times that he's gonna be

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Speaker 8: able to know in the first two minutes or so

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Speaker 8: whether or not President Putin is there to negotiate. And

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Speaker 8: of course Zelensky, from all the things that I have

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Speaker 8: read today, a lot of analysis of people who have

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Speaker 8: been following this engagement for a long time say, look,

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Speaker 8: you know, President Zelensky does not have the cards, and

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Speaker 8: that's exactly what was told to him in the Oval office.

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Speaker 15: He simply does not have it.

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Speaker 8: And I agree with Steve Gruber, his political career is

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Speaker 8: coming to an end. I feel like he knows this,

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Speaker 8: and I feel like he needs to do what's best

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Speaker 8: to end the bloodshed. And that's one thing that President

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Speaker 8: Trump has said from day one. This isn't about US

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Speaker 8: lives being lost. We don't have one US soldier over

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Speaker 8: there in that fight in that particular capacity. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 8: we're making money through selling weapons to NATO on this.

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Speaker 8: So this is something he wants to see end to

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Speaker 8: save lives, and of course we want peace in that region.

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Speaker 8: I do, however, say and I do think this is

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Speaker 8: one of the reasons why Putin is here. You know,

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Speaker 8: with these sanctions that have been on Russia for so long,

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Speaker 8: and also with the new tariff and the sanctions that

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Speaker 8: have been put on India and any other country selling goods, oil,

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Speaker 8: things like that to Russia that that has put them

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Speaker 8: in a financial crisis. So I do think Putin is

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Speaker 8: coming here to make a financial deal with the US,

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Speaker 8: and we definitely want to make sure that they get

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Speaker 8: I'm hearing a plane right now.

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Speaker 15: I think we have.

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Speaker 8: We've got some Russian media that are making their way

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Speaker 8: through here, so I think they've just got the indication

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Speaker 8: that Putin has just landed here at the at the base.

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Speaker 8: But to wrap it up here, as far as the

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Speaker 8: meaning is concerned, I think that we're going to see

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Speaker 8: peace through an economic deal. That's just my personal take

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Speaker 8: on it. Taking a look at all the financial situations

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Speaker 8: for both those countries. I think they both want peace,

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Speaker 8: I do, but I think they're both in some economic

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Speaker 8: takeaways as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Brian, it was Air Force One that just a couple

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Speaker 1: of moments, a couple of moments ago, in our very

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Speaker 1: own Jack Pasoic was on Air Force One. We do

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Speaker 1: have a clip from him that we want to play

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 13: Let's get that.

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Speaker 6: Zach Pasovic just land it's here.

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Speaker 16: Ankoras Alaska, Columble air Force Base, Airface one directly behind me,

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Speaker 16: the first plane of the Russian delegations directly across the tournament.

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Speaker 13: He's to sea for President.

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Speaker 4: Trump too, just embark got a full object with military

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Speaker 4: delegation here to meet the President.

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Speaker 9: The United States and the President of Russia. What a coll.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's some footage that you don't get to see

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Speaker 1: very often, our very own Jack Pasoba on Air Force

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Speaker 1: ONEm can I usually, Brian, it's you and you're the

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Speaker 1: one that painting the scene for us. And I guess

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Speaker 1: you could only hear the plane come in rather than

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Speaker 1: see it. But we are keeping an eye on Air

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Speaker 1: Force one. President Trump has not disembarked just yet. I

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Speaker 1: would l like you, Brian, to get to get a

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Speaker 1: reaction from you. Off some audio from Air Force one

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Speaker 1: earlier in the gaggle. Let's take a quick listen.

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Speaker 14: To that possibility the United States providing security guarantees.

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Speaker 7: To Ukraine, maybe along with Europe and other countries, not

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Speaker 7: in the form of NATO, because that's not going to

747
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Speaker 7: you know, there are certain things that aren't going to happen.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, along with Europe, there's a possibility of it.

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Speaker 1: So, Brian, you can hear that Trump says we could

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Speaker 1: provide some security assurances to Ukraine, but not in the

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Speaker 1: form of NATO. It seems that NATO must be kept

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Speaker 1: out of all of this for it to be successful,

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Speaker 1: or it may draw Putin's anger. What's the prevailing wisdom

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Speaker 1: there with respect to NATO since you mentioned it earlier.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think it does when you kind of

756
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Speaker 8: look at what that area looks like. I even said

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Speaker 8: this a post Trump administration, what does that region of

758
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Speaker 8: the world look like. And I think if if they

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Speaker 8: would obviously I think Zelensky would love to have some

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Speaker 8: type of military you know, say military, but if you

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Speaker 8: say support security people in that region to make sure

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Speaker 8: that piece is maintained. And you think about these raw

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Speaker 8: earth minerals, that the deal that we have with Ukraine

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Speaker 8: and far as you know, getting some of the money

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Speaker 8: back that we've put into that country three hundred and

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Speaker 8: eighty plus billion dollars, so bo there may require some

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Speaker 8: type of security backup for that region because that is

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Speaker 8: a you know, it's a very volatile area and so

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Speaker 8: you're going to have you know, personnel in there mining

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Speaker 8: these rare minerals. So I think that it's definitely an option.

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Speaker 8: I think he just wants NATO to have nothing, you know,

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Speaker 8: nothing with that and wants that to be on the US.

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Speaker 8: But we'll see how that side of negotiation goes. And

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Speaker 8: I'm sure that discussion will take place as well, and

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Speaker 8: we don't know that those discussions have not already taken place,

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Speaker 8: or if you remember bo, just a few days ago,

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Speaker 8: President Trump had a phone call with European leaders and

778
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Speaker 8: Zelenski to talk about several things, so maybe this was

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Speaker 8: a part of it.

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Speaker 15: He was very very tight chested on what they talked about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, Brian, I do want to get

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Speaker 1: your reaction to this too. And I don't know if

783
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Speaker 1: you've seen it yet, but Hillary Clinton, of all people,

784
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Speaker 1: said that she would nominate Trump for a Noble Priest

785
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Speaker 1: prize if he can put an end to this war,

786
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Speaker 1: if Ukraine doesn't have to see any more territory. Now,

787
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Speaker 1: isn't this rich that this comes from a woman who

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Speaker 1: started Russia Gate and said we came, we saw, he died.

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Speaker 13: What are your thoughts on that claim?

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Speaker 1: And coming from a warmonger like her who has no

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Speaker 1: regard for human.

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Speaker 8: Life, Yeah, the next time I see Hillary Clinton, I

793
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Speaker 8: wanted to be in front of an oversight committee on

794
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Speaker 8: her testimony for what with the Russia Russia Russia Gate.

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Speaker 8: I don't care what she has to say right now.

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Speaker 8: I think it's I think what she's trying to do

797
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Speaker 8: is reach for a headline, any type of positive headline.

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Speaker 8: The approval ratings right now for Democrats is that a

799
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Speaker 8: historical low. So for Hillary Clinton or any Democrat to

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Speaker 8: come out right now and start pushing for this peace

801
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Speaker 8: nobel peace blas for President Trump, they're just trying to

802
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Speaker 8: grab some type of positivity in connotation to their party.

803
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Speaker 8: So you know, I want to see her in the

804
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Speaker 8: oversight committee for the collusion and all that stuff that

805
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Speaker 8: they mustered up and pedal to the media, and that's

806
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Speaker 8: where I want to see her speak. But other than that,

807
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Speaker 8: I'm glad that she's had a come to Jesus moment.

808
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 8: But Hillary Clinton can sit down and shut up right now.

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Speaker 8: President Trump is in charge of all this.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, not only that, but what she's proposing is

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Speaker 1: something Trump could actually pull off. So I think she

812
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Speaker 1: might have put her foot in her mouth a little bit. Brian,

813
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Speaker 1: we are awaiting President Putin to touchdown. Once he lands,

814
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Speaker 1: we're going to have some sort of basically ceremonial handshake,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a meeting, and then they're going

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Speaker 1: to go into this meeting that you talked about, this

817
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Speaker 1: bilateral meeting. How long do you think and I know

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Speaker 1: there's no way of you knowing this, but how long

819
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Speaker 1: do you think that meeting could take? You know, Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin's sixty six hours. He's just that's kind of his

821
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Speaker 1: way to say things. President Trump says he'll know within

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Speaker 1: about thirty seconds whether he's serious or not.

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Speaker 13: How long do you think that that meeting will go?

824
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Speaker 1: And do you think he'll give a presser to you

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Speaker 1: and all the other reporters there after it's over.

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Speaker 8: I do think, you know the press conference that's scheduled here,

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Speaker 8: there's two podiums on there.

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Speaker 15: I wish we had a shot at that.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if we could take the White House

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Speaker 8: pole feel there's a shot of that, because right now

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Speaker 8: there is two podiums set up obviously for President Putin

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Speaker 8: and President Trump. Now, if this initial conversation, after the

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Speaker 8: you know, hand off, the welcoming at the tarmac, when

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Speaker 8: they go into their meeting. If there's any indication that

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Speaker 8: President Trump feels like there's not going to be a deal,

836
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Speaker 8: there's no need to move forward, then I don't think

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Speaker 8: you'll see President Putin behind that podium.

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Speaker 15: That's just just me.

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Speaker 8: I don't think President Trump's going to give him the

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Speaker 8: opportunity to be in front of the world like that.

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Speaker 8: I think President Trump would pump the brakes on that

842
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Speaker 8: and just say thanks for coming, We're going to move on.

843
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Speaker 8: But I don't think that's going to happen. I really don't.

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Speaker 8: But you don't show me.

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Speaker 13: That there are two podiums.

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Speaker 1: There are two podiums side by side, meaning the anticipation,

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Speaker 1: or maybe the optimism is that these two leaders will

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Speaker 1: stand side by side and address the media after it.

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Speaker 8: The correct they're about six feet apart. There's two podiums

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Speaker 8: that the flags behind the podium. So this is a

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Speaker 8: this is a build up of an anticipated press conference

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Speaker 8: with both of them. But I know this for a

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Speaker 8: fact that if this meeting does not go well, you

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Speaker 8: will only see one president behind that podium, and that'll

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Speaker 8: be President Trump.

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Speaker 12: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, I want to give you a sports analogy

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Speaker 1: because I know you're going to have talked sports before.

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Speaker 1: Marianna Rivera, the great closer of the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Is is Trump the Marianna Rivera of this deal? Is

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Speaker 1: he the guy who can get this done for a

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Speaker 1: time such as this.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 15: You might even throw a Nolan Ryan in there too.

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Speaker 8: He'll throw a fastball inside, high and inside on any batter.

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Speaker 8: So I think that he would be compared to a closer,

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Speaker 8: but also can compare it to him to someone that's

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Speaker 8: going to throw the meanest, hardest fastball that you would

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Speaker 8: ever face. That's what this is. But that's what it takes.

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Speaker 8: If you look at the foreign policy under Joe Biden

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Speaker 8: and really any other Republican president, this is something we

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Speaker 8: have not seen in the Republican Party in a long time,

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Speaker 8: and it is strength. And I think that the warmongers

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Speaker 8: of DC and the military industrial complex are gonna have

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Speaker 8: to check themselves for a little bit. This is not

876
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Speaker 8: a war that we want to get into. This is

877
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Speaker 8: a war that we want to end. This is Biden's war.

878
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Speaker 8: Biden started this war, not President Trump.

879
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Speaker 15: Now.

880
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Speaker 8: I know campaign promised bo He did say on day

881
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Speaker 8: one he would stop this war, and a lot of

882
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 8: people on the left The Democrats love to criticize and say, well,

883
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 8: it didn't happen on day one. Whatever happened, you over promised,

884
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 8: can you really do it? And we've had several conversations

885
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 8: about that. But this is it today and it's got

886
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 8: to happen today. We must have progress today or I

887
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 8: do think if this thing does go south in a

888
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Speaker 8: couple of hours, I don't think you're going to see

889
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 8: I think we are going to fold our cards, walk away,

890
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 8: cut bait, however you want to say it. We'll be

891
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 8: done with this conflict and they'll just lead up to

892
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 8: these two leaders to whatever. Sadly, more people will die

893
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Speaker 8: at the end of the day. This is to stop

894
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Speaker 8: the war that's going on right now. He often says,

895
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 8: this is not about American lives, This is about human

896
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Speaker 8: lives on Ukraine and Rush aside. We must stop the

897
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Speaker 8: bloodshed and that's all he wants to do today. But

898
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Speaker 8: I will say this, I think it's an economic opportunity

899
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Speaker 8: for everyone right now, an economic opportunity for everyone right now,

900
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Speaker 8: and peace will be the outcome of that.

901
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 13: Yeah.

902
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: Well, I want to bring back in our panel now

903
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Speaker 1: our previous guest, Steve Gruber and Ben Burg Kwam and

904
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Speaker 1: of course we got Brian Glynn, who we just heard from. Gentleman,

905
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, but

906
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Speaker 1: you know we've seen President Trump broker peace steels already

907
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Speaker 1: which have earned him some Nobel Prize nomination.

908
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Speaker 13: Steve, you and I talked about that earlier.

909
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: Whether it's Rwanda and the Congo, Cambodia and Thailand, Israel

910
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: and Hamas, Indian Pakistan, or Armenia and Azerbaijan.

911
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 13: If he can do it, he seems to be a

912
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Speaker 13: lot closer to that.

913
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: But as Brian said, the stakes are very high. He

914
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Speaker 1: kind of has to deliver on that. So I know

915
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Speaker 1: he's giving himself about a seventy five percent chance of

916
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: that happening.

917
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 13: So Steve, I want to bring you back in here.

918
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Speaker 1: And just say, you know, I know there's got to

919
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Speaker 1: be a lot of personal pressure he's putting on himself

920
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Speaker 1: to do this, to get this done, because it was,

921
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: as Brian mentioned, a campaign promise he said it would

922
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: be done today that hasn't happened. But at the same time,

923
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of promise that he can get it done.

924
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Speaker 1: What he thinks on his shoulders today to get this

925
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Speaker 1: done well.

926
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Speaker 16: Clearly he wants the success here. Clearly he wants this

927
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Speaker 16: to happen. He has been angling for this from the

928
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Speaker 16: time that he was campaigning up to November of twenty

929
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Speaker 16: twenty four. As you know, as one of the routine

930
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Speaker 16: things he said during his rallies along the way that

931
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Speaker 16: he can get the worst stops in today. Look, that

932
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Speaker 16: was campaign hyperbole. We understand that, and he has worked

933
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Speaker 16: diligently ever since. And you forgot Egypt in Ethiopia, by

934
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Speaker 16: the way, another little conflict.

935
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Speaker 4: To be stopped. But there's seven on the board, all right.

936
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Speaker 16: I mean, that's a remarkable accomplishment for any president in

937
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Speaker 16: eight years, right, this is in two hundred days. This

938
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Speaker 16: is an incredible accomplishment. He has brought Vladimir Putin to Alaska,

939
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Speaker 16: the former Russian territory.

940
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Speaker 4: It is incredible. As we sit here and we.

941
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Speaker 16: Watch Air Force one waiting for the president to emerge,

942
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Speaker 16: it's an incredible accomplishment.

943
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Speaker 4: I do believe if he pulls this off.

944
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Speaker 16: And again at the top of the broadcast, I said,

945
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Speaker 16: I'm an optimist. A poll I saw said fifty hund

946
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Speaker 16: percent of Americans do not believe that he can pull

947
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Speaker 16: it off. I'm abo of the mind that he can,

948
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Speaker 16: because Donald Trump has done for two hundred days is

949
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Speaker 16: stop war, stop conflict, and stop killing. And I think

950
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Speaker 16: he's going to do it again today. May not be

951
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Speaker 16: done today, but we'll take a great step.

952
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Speaker 1: Here, and then let's talk about some of the geopolitics

953
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Speaker 1: of this as well. I tease this with Steve earlier

954
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Speaker 1: when we had him on just in terms of let's

955
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Speaker 1: look at how China is going to look at this,

956
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Speaker 1: because they've you know, they've got a relationship with Russia.

957
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Speaker 1: Obviously Russia has been an ally of ours before. But

958
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Speaker 1: you look at what China wants to do with Taiwan.

959
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Speaker 1: They may be looking at this summit today saying, hmm,

960
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Speaker 1: if it goes well for Donald Trump and for Vladimir Putin,

961
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Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't be toying around with Taiwan so much.

962
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 13: If it goes poorly and we bug out.

963
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Speaker 1: And we go home, maybe they say, hmm, maybe we

964
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Speaker 1: should go take a closer look at bringing Taiwan back

965
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: into our own fold. How do you see this, because

966
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: see I see this as having much bigger implications than

967
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Speaker 1: just between Russia and Ukraine today. How do you see

968
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Speaker 1: that in terms of what China could do, what the

969
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Speaker 1: CCP could do with respect to Taiwan.

970
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Speaker 9: Well, clearly, I mean that's a part of the decision

971
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 9: making that is making. You look at what we had

972
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Speaker 9: under the first four years of President Trump, no new wars,

973
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 9: and you saw what we had under Joe Biden, endless wars,

974
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 9: new wars, conflict everywhere. Because we didn't have that, there

975
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Speaker 9: was that power vacuum in the world. President Trump seals

976
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 9: that he's the one who comes in and is that

977
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 9: stabilizing force globally, you'll have the left. What's crazy is

978
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 9: you think about this, President Trump is ending these wars.

979
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 9: If we've got peace around the globe, hopefully we have

980
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 9: peace between Ukraine and Russia. But the chaos we see

981
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 9: is actually on the streets of the United States. This

982
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 9: is what's concerning to me. You asked about China. We

983
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Speaker 9: have more communists now in America that are trying to

984
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 9: turn America communists. Those are the enemies that I'm really

985
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 9: concerned about. And going back to our own border. You

986
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 9: think about we've been talking about Ukraine's border, in Russia's border, Well,

987
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 9: we just gave up our border for four years. President

988
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 9: Trump is the one who came in secured our border,

989
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 9: and I believe he's the only one globally that can

990
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 9: help bring peace not just to Ukraine and Russia, but

991
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Speaker 9: globally because he is that stabilizing force that other countries

992
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 9: look at and say, well, if we do that, we're screwed,

993
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 9: because this guy's actually going to come and actually do

994
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 9: He says he's got the power, and look, he's got

995
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 9: the track record to prove it.

996
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 17: And that's I think what we're seeing today.

997
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 9: Hopefully we see an end of this conflict and China,

998
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 9: you know, they have to look at that and recognize that.

999
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 9: And I think we saw that in the first four years.

1000
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 9: I think we're going to see that these four as well.

1001
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: Ran you mentioned earlier that there are some Russian businessmen

1002
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Speaker 1: that are coming with Ladimir Putin today. What sort of

1003
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: financial package or economic incentives do you think that President

1004
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: Trump can dangle in front of them that would incentivize

1005
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: them and potentially could we see a re entry into

1006
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: the G eight in terms of becoming a trading partner

1007
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Speaker 1: with them.

1008
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Speaker 8: I think you just nailed it. I think that's exactly

1009
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 8: what I'm thinking is.

1010
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 15: Going to happen.

1011
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 8: Imagine if he was to say, President Putin, we are

1012
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 8: going to lift all sanctions against your country. We want

1013
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 8: you to be a strong, vibrant partner with the US.

1014
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 8: We got the one of the two biggest economies in

1015
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 8: the world. Let's get back to doing business together. Let's

1016
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 8: get that in the GA. Let's let's let's get everything unified.

1017
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 8: I think opening up the US markets and opening up

1018
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 8: trade amongst the two countries would build a trust again.

1019
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 8: I think it would also give Putin a financial motivation

1020
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 8: to do a negotiation in Ukraine. And in terms of

1021
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 8: this war, I think it stops through economic policy.

1022
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 15: I really do. I think that.

1023
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, they're both

1024
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 8: sides are tired of the bloodshed. There's no doubt about that.

1025
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 8: I mean there's reports coming out of Ukraine where they've

1026
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 8: got seniors and they're taking people that are sixty years

1027
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 8: and older for to fight, and people that have certain handicaps.

1028
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 8: I mean, they're down to that recruitment level, so they

1029
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 8: don't have any more. I think a whole lot of

1030
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 8: fight left in them on this. But if we can

1031
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 8: do some type of economic deal, that would open up

1032
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 8: opportunities within the US between the two countries. Does that

1033
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 8: that might offset, you know, that might offset a little

1034
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 8: little bit of what he is looking to do in Ukraine.

1035
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 8: So I know it's it's complicated, it's got multi layers

1036
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 8: on it, but I do think it comes to economic

1037
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 8: policy that stops this war. And and of course Ukraine

1038
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 8: with the mineral rights has been one of the things

1039
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Speaker 8: they negotiated back.

1040
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Speaker 15: So we'll see.

1041
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 8: But you know, these traveling with some some economic and

1042
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 8: business leaders from from Russia, So I'm kind of reading

1043
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Speaker 8: into that as well of who's coming with him and

1044
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 8: also who's coming with President Trump as well. I think

1045
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 8: that's important to note of those involved with with on

1046
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 8: Air Force one.

1047
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: Scott Bessen's right, he's with them. Yeah, yeah, so that

1048
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: that says something, that says something about a potential business

1049
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: deal in the making. Steve, I just want to ask

1050
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: you just straight up, because I think to get in

1051
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: the mind of Ladimir Putin is difficult. He's a Russian

1052
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: KGB guy. Is President Putin really looking for peace today?

1053
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Or do you think he thinks he can just hold

1054
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: out because the war of attrition is on his side.

1055
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: He knows Ukraine is bleeding troops he is too, but

1056
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: not to the extent is he really looking for peace today?

1057
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Speaker 16: Well, you've raised a good question there, bo. Look, his

1058
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 16: economic outlook for his country is not good. Him recruiting

1059
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 16: people to be in the Russian army right now not good.

1060
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 16: This has been tiring. Look, this is fatigue. At this point,

1061
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 16: three and a half years on. Vladimir Putin would like

1062
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 16: a way out of this war as well. I believe

1063
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 16: it would loosen the purse strings from America, Eastern and

1064
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 16: Western Europe on his country. The sanctions would be lifted,

1065
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 16: the energy could flow again, His oil could go more

1066
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 16: freely to China and elsewhere without the restrictions and the

1067
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 16: global sanctions that are in place. Look, Donald Trump has

1068
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 16: made it clear that if there's not a deal put

1069
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 16: together here, it's going to be very difficult for Vetimic

1070
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 16: Putin to move forward economically.

1071
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Speaker 4: And look, the country is already impoverished.

1072
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Speaker 16: This war has cost them billions of dollars and thousands

1073
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 16: of lives. We know that the cost in life and

1074
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Speaker 16: treasure has been very high for Russia. So can I

1075
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 16: get into the mind of er Putin? Know he is

1076
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 16: a snake, he is a wolf. He's out there trying

1077
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 16: to eat the chickens. That's what he's been trying to do.

1078
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Speaker 16: And let's be honest, Bough. Let's go back to February

1079
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Speaker 16: of twenty twenty two. Most people, myself for sure, anticipated

1080
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Speaker 16: that this war would go about two weeks, maybe three,

1081
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Speaker 16: maybe four the most, because we felt that Russia, being

1082
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 16: the most powerful military and that part of the world,

1083
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Speaker 16: would run over Ukraine.

1084
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Speaker 4: It didn't.

1085
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Speaker 16: They found a lot of problems with corruption, so forth,

1086
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 16: their MREs, their meals ready to eat were contaminated because

1087
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 16: they were past their due date by not just a

1088
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Speaker 16: few days, but by a few years. Their ammunition didn't work.

1089
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Speaker 16: We saw their tanks getting destroyed. Their military is not

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Speaker 16: at all what we imagined it to be. That's an

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Speaker 16: embarrassment for the Russians. And I don't believe they're ever

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Speaker 16: going to Poland or anywhere else in Europe because I

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Speaker 16: don't think they have the capability.

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Speaker 4: I think we've seen that.

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Speaker 16: The scary thing, the wild card, of course, is that

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Speaker 16: they have the biggest, biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.

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Speaker 16: I don't think Vladimir Putin would use it. Not At

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Speaker 16: this point you have to assume that your enemy is rational.

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Speaker 16: That's part of the art of war, you have to

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Speaker 16: know that your enemy is rational. I believe, if nothing else,

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Speaker 16: he is rational. And what good would it do him

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Speaker 16: to launch some sort of a nuclear offensive. Sup The

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Speaker 16: best exit for Vatari Putin is to take Crimea. It's

1104
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Speaker 16: to take the don Boss and whatever pieces of real

1105
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Speaker 16: estate he can take off the eastern edge of Ukraine.

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Speaker 16: Say this is why we did it. We returned Russian

1107
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Speaker 16: territory because he believes it is. He believes it's Russian territory.

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Speaker 16: Return it to the Russian Federation and hang on to

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Speaker 16: it and put that on the mantle as his prize.

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Speaker 16: I think he liked to bow out of this gracefully

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Speaker 16: and look, everything's on the table if he does not.

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Speaker 16: Economically speaking, and we'll see where it goes from here.

1113
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Speaker 16: We know that Donald Trump has pushed NATO into investing

1114
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Speaker 16: into its military in all the countries Germany, France, the UK,

1115
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Speaker 16: and so forth. Donald Trump has done several key things.

1116
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 16: He's increased spending by NATO to what they agreed to originally.

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00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 16: He's held Russia to where they are without them going further.

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Speaker 16: And I do believe what he says. If not for

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump, this war would be going a lot more

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Speaker 16: aggressively towards Russia. It's been a stalemate, is a fair

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Speaker 16: way to put it. I don't know where Vladimir Puttin goes.

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Speaker 16: He's come to Alaska. I think that's a step in

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Speaker 16: the right direction. And like everyone else here on the

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Speaker 16: panel today, I'm hopeful, I'm prayerful that we can find

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Speaker 16: peace in Ukraine today.

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Speaker 1: And Ben, from the American perspective, let's go, let's go

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00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: America Maga style right now. I mean to me, this

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Speaker 1: is a win just by getting Putin to come to

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00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: the table. Steve and I said, you know, a week ago,

1130
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Speaker 1: this was not even this was on nobody's dance card,

1131
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: that this could even happen, And he said, detractors. And

1132
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Speaker 1: he has people doubting him every single day. But he's

1133
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Speaker 1: negotiated all of these peace deals up until this point.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot is on his shoulders, But

1135
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: what does success look like to us with let's take

1136
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: a look right now. Putin's plane is landing right now

1137
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: in Anchorage. We're taking a look of that live right

1138
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: at this moment. He is right on time. Putin is

1139
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: traditionally not on time for things, but he is on time.

1140
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Speaker 1: If not four minutes early. It is three pm Eastern time,

1141
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I believe about eleven am in Alaska right now. So

1142
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Speaker 1: we're taking a look at that plane land right now

1143
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: of flatmir Putin, and shortly we will see the summit

1144
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: of these two leaders. And as Steve said, prayerfully, we're

1145
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: hoping that some great things will come out of this. So, Ben,

1146
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: from the American perspective, what's success today for Donald Trump?

1147
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it's successful. He even got this meeting to

1148
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: begin with. Is a second meeting success?

1149
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Speaker 9: Well, I think from the Magabase standpoint, ending our dollars

1150
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 9: being spent on killing any other country's countrymen is the

1151
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 9: only success. The ultimate success that we're looking for is

1152
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 9: taking our dollars out of continuing these wars and putting

1153
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 9: them back into the wars that matter our own southern border,

1154
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 9: our own country, defeating the enemies within our own country,

1155
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 9: increasing our economic benefit. But I think there's also economic

1156
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 9: benefits that Brian Glenn brought up, that Steve Ruber brought up,

1157
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Speaker 9: that you brought up, that Jack's been talking about all

1158
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 9: of this. You know, this idea that we can just

1159
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 9: pump money into these countries year after year after year

1160
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 9: endlessly our own dollars, our own tax when our countries

1161
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 9: and our cities are going broke. You drive across California

1162
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 9: and it's bums everywhere. You got illegals everywhere. Why are

1163
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 9: we wasting any more of our own money? If anything,

1164
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 9: we need to be making money. We need to be

1165
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 9: creating deals. And again you got the art of the

1166
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 9: deal there with Vladimir Putin, I don't think. I think

1167
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 9: success means the end of the war, but also economic

1168
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 9: benefit for the United States, primarily between these countries, both

1169
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 9: with Russia hopefully. Again I agree with Steve. I don't

1170
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 9: trust Putin, You keep him at arm length. You use

1171
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 9: sanctions when they're necessary. But if we can create some

1172
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 9: trade deals, great, let's do it. And the same with Ukraine.

1173
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 9: Look at ways that. But every single one of these decisions,

1174
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 9: all every single problem that President Trump faces needs to

1175
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 9: be looked at through the lens and I believe he

1176
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 9: looks at it through this lens of what is best

1177
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 9: for the American citizens, what is best for our people,

1178
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 9: for our country. That's why it's America First. That's what

1179
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 9: every leader should be saying. Vladimir Putins should be asking

1180
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 9: the same question about his people in Russia. Vladimir' Zelensky

1181
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 9: should be asking about the same thing for the citizens

1182
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 9: of Ukraine. If leaders did that, we would see peace

1183
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 9: around the world. We'd see economic prosperity around the world. Unfortunately, corruption, greed, sin,

1184
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 9: the rest of it prevents that a lot of times.

1185
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 9: But that's the win for MAGA is ending these wars,

1186
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 9: stopping using our dollars to kill citizens of foreign countries,

1187
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 9: bring that money back to America and put the citizens

1188
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 9: of America first again.

1189
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 13: Yeah, you bring up a great point, Ben.

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Speaker 1: I think that people have seen so many billions of

1191
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: dollars go overseas to Ukraine and what's our ROI what

1192
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: are we getting out of this deal?

1193
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 13: Doesn't seem like it's very much.

1194
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: So I think you bring up a great point about

1195
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: MAGA world and the notion that we should stop spending

1196
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: money on endless wars. That's what Donald Trump campaigned on,

1197
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: and it's what he's doing right now. We have seen

1198
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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's plane now landing in Anchorage.

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Speaker 13: He'll meet with Donald Trump shortly. There's a lot at State.

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Speaker 1: The world is on his shoulders and the world is

1201
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: watching Donald Trump's the great negotiator