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Speaker 1: over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, Lost ding Dong

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Speaker 1: Lost Culturistas calling.

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Speaker 2: So today was Bowen's first ever Tate experience. And that

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Speaker 3: Of the huge headline Famed Bakery shak Shuka restaurant. They

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Speaker 3: have more things than I had, a delicious chicken salad

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Speaker 3: sandwich with raisins. Get into it. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: have this argument with anybody. Raisins belong in chicken salad.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what else I so I basically described

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Speaker 2: it to you correctly. Was it was like a Michelin

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Speaker 3: And then we learned through someone that we were speaking

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Speaker 3: to today that it is owned by Panera Bread. Yes,

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Speaker 3: so it all goes back to Big Pen. It goes

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Speaker 2: And that's actually your real culture number six and it

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Speaker 2: all goes back to Big Bread.

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Speaker 1: Also in Lost Coltu News. So the reason why we're

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Speaker 1: in DC today is actually kind of a fun story.

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Speaker 2: Several months ago, we sort of reached out to with

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Speaker 1: No way, There's just no way. It is real, and

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Speaker 1: we find ourselves sitting with a pair of guests that

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Speaker 2: Are excited would be the understatement of the entry to

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Speaker 3: We were so fortunate enough to be on their podcast

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Speaker 3: at amazing time. IMO, Higher Ground, get into that. That's

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Speaker 3: the chicken salad of podcast truly. Okay, there's raisins.

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Speaker 2: but here's here's what you got to do. It's not

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Speaker 2: the snack of the summer is frozen grapes.

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Speaker 2: Cut up strawberries, cut and then get some bananas in

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Speaker 4: It's still not that deep.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: So these voices that you're hearing, they're legendary.

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Speaker 3: They are the Euclid Avenue Robinson, the icon Chicago legends

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Speaker 2: A college basketball icon as a player, a coach, and

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Speaker 1: And this is just really special.

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Speaker 2: Podcasters now, So moving on up in the world, I'd say.

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Speaker 5: Everyone, please, we are out of our.

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Speaker 2: Minds to welcome Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, we're fired up, ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Put me in coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to play, and you are the one to

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Speaker 4: I mean, you bring it up like it's some rocket

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Speaker 6: You do not have to acquiesce to her just because

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing. Dad was going to parent teacher conference.

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Speaker 5: Great work.

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Speaker 2: She needs to hear from you. She's having a hard

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Speaker 1: I see this is the part you said you were

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Speaker 2: But we have to take the opportunity to ask Michelle

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Speaker 4: I do, Yeah, I watch it all. I watch it all.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's oh, I didn't think about this. So there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're happy to this is the current This

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Speaker 4: We all, you know, at some point in our lives

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I truly appreciate what I see a housewife

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Speaker 4: Get it now, and I hope you're saving it.

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Speaker 6: We were like, you, guys, don't have Michelle. You can

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Speaker 6: So, so I was just playing basketball and I didn't

442
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Speaker 6: know that I was gonna get a chance to be

443
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Speaker 6: a professional basketball player, but it wasn't what I was

444
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Speaker 6: shooting for. So we were always taught just try things

445
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 6: until you figure out what it is you like to do.

446
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Speaker 6: And that's what I did, and I felt very comfortable

447
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Speaker 6: doing it because I had the support of my family. Yes,

448
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Speaker 6: and I never felt like I had to be a doctor.

449
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: I had to be a lawyer. I had to be

450
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Speaker 1: a basketball player.

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Speaker 6: And then that that way I was able to try

452
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Speaker 6: finance and try consulting, and then try coaching and realize

453
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Speaker 6: that I loved coaching and teaching. And I think the

454
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Speaker 6: only thing that I thought I really wanted to do

455
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Speaker 6: was be a teacher.

456
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Speaker 1: I thought I was.

457
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Speaker 6: Going to teach seventh grade and coach high school basketball. Right,

458
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Speaker 6: that was my I should say I started out wanting

459
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Speaker 6: to be a race car driver.

460
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: And growing.

461
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Speaker 6: I was publicly I was publicly shamed by my second

462
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Speaker 6: grade teacher, who I absolutely loved, and she was like,

463
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Speaker 6: with all those brains, what do you want to be

464
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Speaker 6: a race car driver for? And so that was the

465
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Speaker 6: end of that. And then I got too tall to

466
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Speaker 6: get in the cards. But I thought I'd be a

467
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Speaker 6: teacher because I had so many good role models my parents,

468
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Speaker 6: I had coaches, I had good teachers coming up, So

469
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Speaker 6: I was thinking that would be something that would be

470
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Speaker 6: worthwhile doing.

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Speaker 2: Well, you really opened up a door here to the

472
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Speaker 2: central question of our podcast, and so I feel like

473
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Speaker 2: we'll just ask you. We'll start with you, Craig, which

474
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Speaker 2: is what was the culture that made you say culture

475
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: was for you? This is that that sort of formative,

476
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: influential moment in your life where something you were exposed to,

477
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: whether it was pop culturally or culturally in general, that

478
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Speaker 2: made Craig become Craig.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you the answer because I

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Speaker 1: know this answer.

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Speaker 6: I'm prepared for this, but I want to tell you

482
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Speaker 6: I always make note of questions I haven't been asked,

483
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 6: because when you get interviewed all the time and you

484
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 6: listen to podcasts, you hear all these great questions. It's

485
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 6: always so exciting when somebody asks a question you haven't

486
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 6: heard before, and I only know your question because of

487
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 6: your show, but I've never been answer. So I'm really

488
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 6: excited about this. And I know there were two opportunities here.

489
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 6: So when I was in high school, I worked at

490
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Speaker 6: Soldier Field, which is the arena where the Chicago Bears play.

491
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 6: They used to have great concerts there and we couldn't

492
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Speaker 6: afford tickets to concert so we never went to live concert.

493
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 6: So my first live concert I worked at during the

494
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Speaker 6: series of concerts Parliament Funkadelic.

495
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Speaker 1: Landing the Mothership on.

496
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: The stage, production people and.

497
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Speaker 6: The music and the music on top of the production.

498
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Speaker 6: But the best part guys seeing them dudes come in

499
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: off the bus. I was like, they coolish, Yeah, rock

500
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Speaker 6: star lifestyle, they cool edge.

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Speaker 5: Didn't you mystify anything?

502
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Speaker 1: It actually mystified.

503
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Speaker 6: Oh.

504
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Speaker 1: I was like, I should have stayed playing the piano.

505
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: Because you're feeling like a group beat.

506
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 6: I was like, wow, I could be up there wearing

507
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Speaker 6: the stack shoes and the diamond, the stark glasses.

508
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: Laying in the face, playing the keyboard.

509
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Speaker 6: It was so and so that was when I was like, Okay,

510
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 6: there's something to be there's culture out here, there's something

511
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Speaker 6: to be being cool. And then the next ahead to

512
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Speaker 6: one of my freshman year in college was the first

513
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: year that rap was going widespread. Yeah, rappers delight of

514
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 6: course that song of.

515
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Speaker 2: Course my mother I used to do it when I

516
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: was in elementary school, and I was like, my mom

517
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: was bars, yeah, that praised for it at the time,

518
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: but I thought.

519
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: I thought, how did you come up with that mod?

520
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know? Rappers? They're like, wait, year was that?

521
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Speaker 6: So that was nineteen I graduate high school seventy nine,

522
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 6: so it was nineteen eighty was the year settay?

523
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Speaker 1: Nine eighty was the year I was my freshman year college.

524
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Speaker 1: Did you know the same age my mom she graduated

525
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Speaker 1: at nineteen eighty. Yeah.

526
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Speaker 4: I believe as we came we feel old, No.

527
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Speaker 5: No, we are.

528
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: My mom played.

529
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Speaker 5: I'm as a superstar, ageless, ageless period.

530
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Speaker 2: But no, there's a lot of music, and isn't it

531
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Speaker 2: funny like when when you're young and a kid like

532
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: it's so uncool to be doing music or playing the

533
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Speaker 2: band or do orchestra.

534
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: And then now who is cooler than musicians?

535
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: Ye?

536
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: Stars? Pop stars.

537
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're trying to keep our fifteen and thirteen

538
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 6: year old. They're still playing their music, yep. And if

539
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 6: they can just hang on, just hang on and keep

540
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 6: doing it.

541
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Speaker 4: Maybe they'll be stepping off the mother ship.

542
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: They don't even need to step off the mother ship,

543
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: but if they ever wanted to, they won't be so

544
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 6: far behind where they could only be the guy playing

545
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Speaker 6: the like.

546
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Speaker 3: There's a play, there's a place for that.

547
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: And there is.

548
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Set up.

549
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: You're right.

550
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: I just gosh, if I could take a time mashing

551
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: back to like a stadium funk concert, man, like, I guess, like,

552
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 3: what's the closest thing we have to that I don't know.

553
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: I guess we have.

554
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: What are we talking?

555
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Beyonce will give you every genre, but the

556
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean like in terms of like real like what

557
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: you're talking.

558
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: About, like a band.

559
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: Like a like a band.

560
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: I guess you know you know who is huge and

561
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: there's it's not my culture at all, But whose people

562
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: really live for is grateful dead?

563
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: Grateful dead? And let me tell you it's also Bruce

564
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: Springsteen dear friend of mine. I was at his concert

565
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: in Barcelona, and you know he's got e street band.

566
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: It's it is music, it is it's a band, yes,

567
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 4: you know it's it's like it's the drummer, it's the

568
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: horn section, it's all of it. And they were playing

569
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: jazz and they flipped into you know, uh Nora Orleans.

570
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: You know, they did it all in addition to rock.

571
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: But this is you know, let's make up ps A

572
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: for Music and Education in public schools, right, because this

573
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: is you know, all talent doesn't come from the rich, right,

574
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: Talent is born, and if there's no place for kids

575
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Speaker 4: to access a trumpet or you know, a set of drums,

576
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: they don't get to cultivate that talent, right.

577
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: You know.

578
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: Broad That's why I love Broadway. You know, Broadway to

579
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: me is like where the real you know, I don't

580
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: want to sell anybody, but it's like it's where the

581
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: real talent lies. I mean, you go to these shows

582
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: and it's like everybody is a freaking star. It's like

583
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: you should have a concert. The guy who's playing the

584
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: backup to the you should have a you know, old album.

585
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's just that's why I love Broadway because

586
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: it's the place where real talent can can can come

587
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: and the fact that they do a day in and

588
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: day out with the same level of energy. They're flying

589
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: without a net every night, and it's just phenomenal to watch,

590
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: which I don't know. Did I digress a bit? No?

591
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say before we ask you your

592
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: response to the culture question, I have two questions for you. One,

593
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Speaker 2: are you going to get a chance to or have

594
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: already seen Cowboy Carter Tour?

595
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, yeah, I mean it is the sojourn of

596
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: me and my daughters and I and Beyonce's my girl,

597
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: first of all, I mean we are that's my girl,

598
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: her back. So the girls and I have gone to

599
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Speaker 4: every concert that she's had. So we did Cowboy Carter

600
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Speaker 4: and uh where were we were in?

601
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Speaker 6: Uh?

602
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: We were in New York. We did the New York

603
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Speaker 4: the Rain show. Were You in the Rain?

604
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Speaker 5: Yes, that's one of the parts.

605
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: Were You in the Rain?

606
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: I was?

607
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Speaker 1: And she would think she would be sympathetic, but no,

608
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: she was just letting you know.

609
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Speaker 4: But the entire concert, I mean poor for the entire concert,

610
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: and none.

611
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: Of them missed the beat you're talking.

612
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: They didn't miss a beat a dancer. There may have

613
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: been a slippage once maybe maybe, but they made it

614
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: look like it was. The stage was just a puddle

615
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: and she was stopping. She just performed away and beautiful.

616
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: She looks I mean, she looks better than ever, sounds.

617
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: Better than ever.

618
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Are you This probably was my favorite one of the

619
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: whole thing was when Blue Ivy stomps out galvanized with

620
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: the towel wipe down the stage and then shredded, and.

621
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: That's of her own making. Beyonce was like, I look

622
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: down in one performance in the rain and there's Blue

623
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: cleaning the stage. She's like, what are you doing? She's like,

624
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: I'm doing my solo. Somebody's getting this ready for me.

625
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: And because you want to.

626
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: Know what like, she also knows that everyone's watching TikTok

627
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: every night, looking at every single movement, like the probably

628
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: the most scrutinized performer.

629
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: In the world right now is and everyone.

630
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: Is watching every second of it to see, like, is

631
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: she as good?

632
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: Beyonce, Well, she's she's baby good, She's she is she's

633
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: in middle school, all right, okay, people, I mean she

634
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: is like a worker horse, and that's what she's learning

635
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: that's what her parents are demanding of her, Like, okay,

636
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: if you if you say you want to do this,

637
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: then you got to do it, and you've got to

638
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: perfect your craft. So yes, I was there and loving it. Try.

639
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: Yes, we're going to We're going to go in Paris. Yes,

640
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: next week.

641
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: I was thinking about trying to go and get a

642
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: dry show in so I could go down on stage,

643
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: but I just don't know. You let him manage it.

644
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: And the last thing before we asked you the culture

645
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: question was I need to know specifically Oh Mary, Oh,

646
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: what is Michelle Obama's experience at Oh Mary, because we.

647
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: Imagine that everyone's kind of turning to you to see

648
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: how you're responding.

649
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: To specific Well A lot of times I sneak in afterwards,

650
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: so I don't think that people knew I was there

651
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: because I come in at dark and slipping on the side,

652
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: and and I didn't know fully what O Mary was right,

653
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: So I went with a friend and it was a recommendation.

654
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: They said it's play, and and I didn't do the research,

655
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: which I usually do, so I wasn't sure what was

656
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: going on right, and then a scene one and I

657
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: am cracking up yes, but feeling like, oh my god,

658
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: if people see me laughing, it's gonna be on page

659
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: six and somebody. But it was. I loved it so

660
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: happy for the Tony Winn. I mean, you know, just

661
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: out of out of your mind. It's like, this is

662
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: what you think, who thought of this? What's going on

663
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: inside that head? That thought of the retelling of history

664
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: in this very interesting but powerful way. Just I loved

665
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: it it.

666
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also when you get to know Cole and

667
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: you really realize that so much of their actual personal

668
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: experience is in that show, even if you don't know,

669
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: like the things that they've struggled with and what they

670
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: wanted and the kind of resistance they've been met with

671
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: is all in there.

672
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: And that that I think makes it, you know, in the.

673
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: Bones of Mary Todd Lincoln.

674
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

675
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm happy to know that you had.

676
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: An amazing time, had a great time.

677
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: Gotta know, Michelle Obamba, the culture that made you say

678
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: culture was for you.

679
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 4: You know now that we're talking, it is music. It's

680
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: still music. And it's interesting that so much of that

681
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: cultural moment for us was music, and for me it

682
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: was a musical show. Soul Train, right, it was the

683
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: competitor to American Bandstand. Yes, the music dance show that

684
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: was on in the late sixties and seventies Don Cornelius,

685
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: the Soul Train.

686
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 5: The dancing there, I guess like.

687
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: The line yes, which is now done at every wedding reception,

688
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: a party it o ridges for those of you who

689
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: don't know that came from Soul Train, but to see

690
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: every week, you know, all these cool young black kids

691
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: doing all the latest dances, wearing all the latest seventies fashion,

692
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: the bell bottoms, the big afros, and the top it

693
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: off with some huge musical guests, the latest in R

694
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 4: and B performing in your living room on television Saturday mornings,

695
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: because that's when it came on, you know, and we'd

696
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: all get up and you try to do the dances

697
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: and you create your own Soul Train line. I mean

698
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: that's for me. I love to dance, I love music,

699
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: I love Broadway. If I had any ounce of talent,

700
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: I think that's what God saved the world, because if

701
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: I had, if I could sing a note, if I

702
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: could dance a dance, I'd be up every minute, just

703
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: like would you like me to sing for you? I

704
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 4: would be singing for everyone it's like these talented people

705
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: who were embarrassed and they don't sing. It's like, no,

706
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: I can't. It's like, if that was.

707
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Me, i'd choose really talented. I'm sure you really talented.

708
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 4: I don't think I think I'm regular.

709
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: I think she could have been really talented. She's just

710
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 6: a perfectionist, so she would have never thought it was right.

711
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: You know, I hear that, like sometimes it's you chuck

712
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: yourself out of things because it's not gonna be perfect.

713
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, the world.

714
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: Has been you know, robbed of its rights.

715
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Correct.

716
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: But back to soul Train.

717
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: Back to soul training, you know, quest to do this

718
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: night at Brooklyn Bull where he would do like a

719
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: soul train and play clips. And it was like me

720
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: like fully as an adult, sort of digesting this for

721
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: the first like I always knew about soul Train, but

722
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: then just like actually watching the footage and the clips,

723
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: it is just this mesmerizing thing where everyone we talk

724
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: about like being like that person deserves their own show

725
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: and concert. Every single frame, you're like, that's the most

726
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: beautiful group of people dressed.

727
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: The women were gorgeous. They you know that their movements

728
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: were unique they introduced new dances, and you know, culture

729
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 4: was created in that room.

730
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: It was the first video music show that we experienced.

731
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 6: There were no music videos back the visuals where you could.

732
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: See the artists performing even though they were lip syncing

733
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 4: right because they you know, they lip sync to a track.

734
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: But unless they were on like the Flip Wilson Show

735
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: or Carol.

736
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 6: Variety Show, you would see people performing live music on television.

737
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: So for us, yeah, were your parents also tuning in

738
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 3: or was this Oh yeah.

739
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: It was family viewing if my dad was home, it

740
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: was you know, we had one TV, so you know,

741
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: we lived in the age where you watched what was

742
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 4: on TV. And we got control of the TV during

743
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: the Soul Train hours, you know, and everyone and we

744
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: all got up tried the dances out. You'd go outside

745
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 4: after Soul Train and talk about what you saw with

746
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: your friends and try to recreate the moves. And you know,

747
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: it was the fashion was you know, off the chain.

748
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: It was where a lot of fashion culture began and ended.

749
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: You see the inspiration in current fashion today, even the colors,

750
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: the color blocking. It just you know amazing, and it

751
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: made me sort of want to be older and cooler.

752
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: It wanted, you know, I was. I was curious about

753
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: who these people were and how you set these tones,

754
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: and you know where you found the courage to be

755
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: that creative. And then the other moment for me was

756
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 4: when I bought and was given Because I bought it

757
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: and was given my first album. I was given it

758
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: by my maternal grandfather, who we called Southside, who was

759
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: a record officionado. He had a huge album collection. Didn't

760
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: have a lot of money, but he had two turntables,

761
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: a reel to reel. I mean he literally had his

762
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: house wired for sounds, speakers in every room. But he

763
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 4: was a jazz aficionado, had a huge jazz collection that

764
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: I think we're now donating to the OPC. Oh. Yeah,

765
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: so the OPC will be able to preserve it, but

766
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: I hope that's in the works.

767
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Two bedroomhouse with twenty five speakers in the.

768
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: Bathroom, in everybody's bedroom. They we grew up with music

769
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: playing twenty four to seven. There wasn't a time that

770
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: my grant when he woke up, the music went on.

771
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: And you had to learn how to take care of

772
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: the album right if you used it, you had to

773
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: clean it, you had to hold it at the edges.

774
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: You couldn't stack them. You couldn't. You didn't play put

775
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: the needle in the middle of the album. You had

776
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: to start it at the beginning because you could scratch

777
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: the record. I mean, there was a culture to that

778
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: he gave me for it was one of my birthdays.

779
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: He gave me Stevie Wonder's talking book Talking Books Songs

780
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: in the Key of Life.

781
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: I knew you were going to say Stevie won.

782
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think I talk about Stevie whit he

783
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 4: He was also he to my culture, you know, because

784
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 4: he was the first musician. And we did this beautiful

785
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: podcast on Stevie through Higher Ground The Wonder of Stevie,

786
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: and I recommend it because it is a fascinating look

787
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 4: at why Stevie Wonder is a musical genius. It covers

788
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: his five albums. No one has produced that quality and

789
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: amount of record of music production in such a short

790
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: period of time. Questlov was the producer with that co

791
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: produced it with us, so I learned even more about Stevie.

792
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: But talking book, that album it was that led with

793
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: You Are the Sunshine of My Life. It was one

794
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: of his first independent or first or second independent albums

795
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: that when he was in charge of his career, wrote

796
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 4: and produced everything. So it was his sound. It wasn't motown.

797
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: Nobody was controlling him, and it was it was a

798
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: cultural experience for me as a ten year old because

799
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: it was also one of the first albums that came

800
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: with the lyrics on the Jackass right, And I would

801
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: spend hours, just hours, immersed in his music. In the lyrics.

802
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: You know, there was opera in it, there was jazz,

803
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: there was sex, there was love, there was there was

804
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: political you know, statements being made. A song entitled big Brother.

805
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: You know your name is big Brother. You say you're

806
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: watching me on the Telly, seeing me go nowhere? I

807
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: mean lyrics so that like I was reading and going

808
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: he is telling us something here. And it was the

809
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 4: first album where it wasn't just about a music the music,

810
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: but it was about the message. So you know, that

811
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: album was one of those cultural experiences that took me

812
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: to the next layer. And like it wasn't just fashion,

813
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: it wasn't just the moves. It was like art. It

814
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: was art.

815
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at what point from getting the album

816
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: to like understanding what all of the messaging might have

817
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: meant and all this context about it being independent production

818
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: and that there was you know, not influenced by Motown necessarily.

819
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Like when does that knowledge come through you?

820
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 6: Oh?

821
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: I didn't know that when I was ten, of course,

822
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: you know, I've learned that over the course of a

823
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: lifetime of following.

824
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Stevie or Stepen's your love for the album.

825
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, which is why this podcast will take

826
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: you to different places with him. But even without all

827
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 4: that information at ten, at ten years old, yeah, that

828
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: album moved me to a place that I didn't know

829
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: you could go with music and art. So it was

830
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: and still resonates. I mean, I still have that album

831
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: on my playlist. It's part of my the soundtrack, it's

832
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: my soundtrack. It's like it's my you know, Stevie is

833
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: the music that gets me going right before I'm about

834
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: to give a speech, you know, when I'm on the

835
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: way in a car to do something hard. You know,

836
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: there is some kind of song that Stevie has made

837
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: that will get me to that place.

838
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: It's impossible to pick a favorite. I'm literally sitting here

839
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: there like, is it if you really love me?

840
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: Is it lately?

841
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Is it all fair?

842
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: It is a superstitious you know what I mean like

843
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: it's he is, yes, yeah.

844
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: Before we do, I don't think so, honey, I wanted

845
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: to ask if you remembered something, So this actually came

846
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: to me, like it was like one of those memories

847
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: the other day years ago. It was twenty sixteen. You

848
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: were on Jimmy Fallon's show and people were doing the

849
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: thing where they were speaking to the portrait of you

850
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: and then you came out.

851
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

852
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: So there was a guy named Henry who went last,

853
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: and he was he was he was speaking to you

854
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: and you came out and you had this moment together.

855
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: That was my boyfriend at the time.

856
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

857
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: I was just oh wow, that was such.

858
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: A tough time obviously, I would imagine for everybody involved.

859
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: And I remember just like he is and remains he's

860
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: a dear friend of our still to this day, and

861
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: he was the sweetest is the sweetest person ever. And

862
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: I just remember watching you guys have that moment, like

863
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: I just it was just such an emotional memory for

864
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: me to have the other day and just it was

865
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: it was do you remember that happened?

866
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: I absolutely remember that. I mean, look, one of the

867
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: greatest gifts that I had being first Lady was being

868
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: able to interact with people who felt impacted by anything

869
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: that we had done, right, because we're living in like

870
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: an ivy tower with security guards, and you know, it's

871
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: the rare personal interaction where you could be with someone

872
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: outside of a photo line and just experience them in

873
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: that way. Meant as much to me as it did

874
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: to him, And so yeah, I remember it all. What

875
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: a small world.

876
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: It was such a lift and it remains a lift

877
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: as a memory for me and I know for him.

878
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to shout out Henry and wow

879
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: I remember.

880
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: But like now I'm craving to see that clip again.

881
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the love going on the talk shows and

882
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: doing those stunts and bits with with Jimmy and others.

883
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: They you know, it was like they would just play right.

884
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: It's like she's game for anything. And I was like, yeah,

885
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm pretty much game for anything. But we would have

886
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: some of the best interactions messing with the public.

887
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

888
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking back and I'm thinking nowadays they would

889
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: never get away with that because it's like if you

890
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: go in there, it's like, oh, you're going to talk

891
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: to this portrait of Michelle Obama.

892
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 5: I think everyone will be like, well, she behind that

893
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 5: it's like.

894
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: You were shocked, and he really was.

895
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe this was at the time where

896
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: we weren't doing as many viral tricks.

897
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 4: We were not it was the beginning of it, right, Yeah, yeah,

898
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: well I just had to bring that up. Thank you

899
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: for that. Yeah, give him my life.

900
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: Thank you for that, and I will I will. Okay,

901
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: So it's time for I don't think Swanni bo.

902
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: Yes, this is our segment where we take one minute

903
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: to really segment rail against something in culture. Yes, we

904
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: love segments. What a staple of the pod. We both

905
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: have something. So we'll go first, and then we'll and

906
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: then we'll go Cragg and Michelle.

907
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you guys style, you know, we'll we'll see you

908
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: if we're good.

909
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: I've decided to take a risk today with mine. Mine

910
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: might alienate some folks. I'm keeping an eye on everybody

911
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: out there. Mine's gonna alienate no one. But people are

912
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: gonna be like, now, don't no one has to be concerned.

913
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's go for it. Let's go for it.

914
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as

915
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey.

916
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: Lack of digerido in popular music, The digity do is

917
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: the instrument of Australia and I don't understand why we're

918
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: not utilizing it.

919
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: Lady Gaga, I'm looking at you.

920
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: If there's gonna be a pop star that brings the

921
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: digeridoo into complete pop culture dominance, it's gonna be you, Gaga.

922
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: It's the one thing missing from Mayhem, which is perfect otherwise.

923
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh and Yang, I don't think so, honey, You're about

924
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: to believe his didery do impression.

925
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Do it?

926
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: That sound is amazing.

927
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: Don't you want that over a beat? Don't you want

928
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: to throw at the club?

929
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: I do?

930
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: I feel like let's move. I feel let's get this

931
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: out here. Let's let's get someone who can play the digitydo.

932
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: Because you know they're not making money because you're not

933
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: booking them enough. We need to take it out of

934
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Australia and bring it international.

935
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: The digital is global. I want the digery doo. Lady

936
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: gotta go. I'm calling you out, Sabrina Carpenter. I'm talking

937
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: about second. We're all the one of your Parisian concert together.

938
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: Bring out the digredo.

939
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: Oh my, I thought for it. You're a picture. You're

940
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: a picture full of juice.

941
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: I have yours if you haven't thought of it.

942
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, let's see what sometimes you do?

943
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Know more because sometimes I'm coming in here and I'm like,

944
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: what pisses me off?

945
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: And then you find that I can assign you one

946
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: pretty pretty regular. We should try that.

947
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: We should do that one time. Like I like, right

948
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: right as we're about to hit play, you tell me

949
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: what mine is and I go, oh.

950
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Thank you for inspiring and.

951
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 4: Ship although he can't do it. It's like, this is

952
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: the thing who can do a minute on anything other than.

953
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. We went down to Epic

954
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Universe in Orlando. There's an opening of the new theme

955
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: park Universal, and they had us do one in the

956
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: ninety seven degree heat humility.

957
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 5: I think we.

958
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: Almost almost died.

959
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I think we almost lost our life.

960
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: I don't think Sonny, you know the Constellation carousel.

961
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 4: Don't you have human resources on your shop? Someone actually issue?

962
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: I don't think Sony is a liability.

963
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: It's like, where are the union rules?

964
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Need we need a podcasting union?

965
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: We do?

966
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: We do?

967
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: Wow?

968
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Why not?

969
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 5: I'm starter? Okay, So I'm ready to alienate by one?

970
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: Has he he when he really rips these up, they

971
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: can This is Bowen Yang's out on things, So, honey,

972
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: his time starts now.

973
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, Why is pet food looking

974
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: delicious and commercial?

975
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 5: I'm doing I'm watching.

976
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: The Tonys and there's a fancy feast Gems commercial working

977
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: on a plate.

978
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 5: It really did.

979
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: The cat's not eating it out of a plate, and

980
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: then they garnish it with rosemary.

981
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 5: Why are you making it presentable for human consumption?

982
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: Because I'm sitting at home going, well, my mouth is watering,

983
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat this. And then I red an article

984
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: in the Atlantic about how there is the gourmet dog

985
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: food market is exploding.

986
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Dress a Micheline chef is making dog.

987
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: Food for dogs. It's it's it's it's really getting out

988
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: of control.

989
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: Your dog doesn't know the difference between kibble and the

990
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: fresh medallions of salmon that are being advertised on these packages.

991
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: In second, your dog deserves the best, Absolutely every deserves

992
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: gourmet food.

993
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: Everybody deserves for meat food.

994
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: But don't make human beings want to eat it because

995
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: I don't, so, honey, me thinking, well, maybe.

996
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: I will try some some whiskers some with some some

997
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: pedigree and that's one minute.

998
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

999
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: I saw some catfol the other day that looked like

1000
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 2: it should win a James Beard Award.

1001
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: This is not okay.

1002
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: And also they know what they're doing because it's on

1003
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: late at night when the Housewives wrong when people America.

1004
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: Have you seen the commercial where the guy kicks the

1005
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 6: girl right, because.

1006
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: For the fresh dog food they did you keeping the refrigerator.

1007
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: She's like a dog.

1008
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: You keep your dog food in the refrigerator, I mean.

1009
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: And then he kicks her out of the date and

1010
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 4: he's left here. Yeah, that's that was part of your.

1011
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: He brought we went together.

1012
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: Was it during the Tony during okay?

1013
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: So it's during the Tonys and he pointed it out

1014
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god. As a result

1015
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: of watching the catful commercial, it's like they.

1016
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: Garnish it with row was marrying. It's like, what are

1017
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: we doing?

1018
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: I don't.

1019
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: Know.

1020
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: It's because we're the ones buying. Yeah, yeah, we buy.

1021
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: That my dog eats her poop. I'm sure she doesn't

1022
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: do that.

1023
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 5: I watched it happen when I was a kid. I

1024
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: was like, she's no, that's.

1025
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 4: Wrong, you know, but Barrocks still won't let her sit

1026
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: on the sofa. She eats her poop and it's like

1027
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: she doesn't do it anymore.

1028
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: Cats know something that dogs don't, and that's roller Coachure

1029
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: number ninety. Cats know something that dogs don't.

1030
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: It's just true.

1031
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: They know how to work people in a way the

1032
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 5: dogs they do.

1033
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: And also they're persistent, nevertheless, never they're demanding.

1034
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: They're not persistent, they're insistent.

1035
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, their cat weird cat people. Yes, we've had two cats.

1036
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: We just lost our last cat.

1037
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 4: I mean their cats Flip Forever eighteen twenty one.

1038
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Missy Icon, Yeah we're cat folks.

1039
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, may they.

1040
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is like I think I am

1041
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 2: a dog as a person, but I would get a cat.

1042
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: I think he's a cat as a person and he

1043
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: wants a dog.

1044
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 5: Like that's just is they're not start.

1045
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: Okay, who wants to go first?

1046
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: Okay you do?

1047
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: So are you going to do the one that Michelle suggested?

1048
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 6: No, and we'll tell you what that is after because

1049
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 6: I can't do a whole minute on it.

1050
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: Can you do a whole minute on anything? Okay?

1051
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: You kill.

1052
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: Want smarter? Even though yeah, like the.

1053
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: This is Craig robinsons, I don't think so many his

1054
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: time starts now.

1055
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 6: I don't think so honey. And I'm talking about balloons.

1056
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: Balloons are for birthday parties and baby showers.

1057
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 5: They are not ride in.

1058
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 6: Tell you why, first and foremost, you can die three

1059
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: different ways in a balloon. Tell us you can go

1060
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 6: straight up so far that you lose oxygen in your horrible.

1061
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 6: Second thing is that you could go straight down to

1062
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 6: your point and fall out. But the thing is you

1063
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: can burn up in a balloon. People do not talk

1064
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 6: that you can burn up. And who are these people

1065
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 6: who are getting in balloons? Chariots? You cannot terrible, You

1066
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 6: cannot control where you're gonna land.

1067
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 5: They got these.

1068
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: Trucks to follow you along. You could land in the ocean.

1069
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Take it.

1070
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: I don't think so hard. And that's what I don't

1071
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 5: many balloons.

1072
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, there's so much to say about

1073
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: how loud they pop.

1074
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: He goes them up.

1075
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 2: But you said hot air balloon travel, and how ridiculous

1076
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: it is, because you're right, and you should say it,

1077
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: and you did.

1078
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: These people are getting up at the ass crap of.

1079
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: Dawn to meet up in a big field to get

1080
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: in a wicker basket.

1081
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: You want to.

1082
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 5: Guys.

1083
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: Wait, let's just say you avoid those three ways of dying,

1084
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: and you come down the land and the thing turns

1085
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 6: over and you get.

1086
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: Suffocated and you get stuff and now, by the way,

1087
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: now you're back on land and that's lethal.

1088
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: By the way, what do they tell your parents?

1089
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

1090
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, he died And it was like an idiot because

1091
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: he went up in a hot air balloon and didn't

1092
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: need to be doing all that.

1093
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: So my mom was going to pick upone and say, oh.

1094
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: He died being extra well yeah under a big yeah,

1095
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: under a big scoopy head like. And I get so

1096
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: nervous when I see them holding the big, big balloon parade.

1097
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, the bottom and this.

1098
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: Is and I know it's it hasn't gone perfectly well.

1099
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: Every time they'll they'll lose control those things absolutely.

1100
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: Now we're getting serious, now, thoughts, it's it's like that,

1101
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: now we're getting serious. You were concerned, Matt, No, this

1102
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 4: is just like, this is not good.

1103
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: This gives me anguish. I do I don't feel like

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00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 5: this is why I don't think so.

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00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: Honey is a powerful tool for conversation this is great,

1106
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: it's great.

1107
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 5: It's cathartic.

1108
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 6: But you know what she wanted me to do it

1109
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 6: on what this world is missing out on ventriloquists.

1110
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: You think there should it should be more. I don't,

1111
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: just like the digeridoo, just like the I don't agree

1112
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: with you. You know what this because it is extremely difficult.

1113
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: It is a and and those who can do it

1114
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: are really good.

1115
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah have you ever tried?

1116
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: I of course I tried.

1117
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 6: Well, well, not good enough for my parents to get

1118
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: me a ventriloquist dummy use one of her dolls.

1119
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 5: Okay, do you have you can't do it now?

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: No, I can't talk like.

1121
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 5: It is crazy.

1122
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy because my might lives too far apart. But

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00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: there are guys who can do it. Looks the work tho.

1124
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 5: It's eerie.

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, but it's wonderful. It is a wonderful.

1126
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: I just love Ventriquist. They need to bring it back.

1127
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: Brought it up in one of our I Am O sessions,

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00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: and I can't remember what kind of I.

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00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: Said in my opinion, Oh yeah, the world where the

1130
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: world is missing ventriloquist?

1131
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, what.

1132
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 6: Is under They're under represented in comedy.

1133
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: You're not wrong?

1134
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 5: Is famous? Now? Who's the closest thing? I don't know.

1135
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 4: They were on America's Got Talent, and they would have

1136
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: to be that's where they show up. I think you

1137
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 4: have to watch America's Got.

1138
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 5: I want to watch.

1139
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: The other night, I shout at this season shot my

1140
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: friend Benjamin height Tower.

1141
00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 5: What did he?

1142
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 4: What did?

1143
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: He's a veteran and he went on America's Got Talent

1144
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: and he's sang chapelone Pink Pony Club on while playing.

1145
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: The Oh this is gonna make his life that you're

1146
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: gonna go watch it? But like I'm telling.

1147
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 4: You, like did he get through?

1148
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: And it's going viral onliney.

1149
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch. Oh my god? Anyways, can we just

1150
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: skip mine?

1151
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 5: You guys are so.

1152
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, She's gonna.

1153
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Slay it, all right.

1154
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: This is Michelle Obama's I don't think so, honey. Her

1155
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: time starts now.

1156
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey. Seges they still have them

1157
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 4: here in Washington, d C. As part of the Monuments tour.

1158
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: They go so slow. It's just annoying that they go

1159
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: so slow. You just want to just get off and

1160
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: walk walk fast, you know, we are dealing with an

1161
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 4: obesity crisis in the world. We meet people walking and

1162
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: if you're on a motorized thing that doesn't move any

1163
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: faster than you walk, then I say, please, please take

1164
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: the helmet off because you don't need it on a

1165
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: segway and just walk a little bit. Walk fast, walk slow,

1166
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: walk twenty seconds and they're in the bike lane. Are

1167
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: they a bike because it's almost like you're walking in

1168
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 4: the bike lanes.

1169
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: You shouldn't.

1170
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: You should just be on the sidewalk if you don't

1171
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: need to be in the bike lane with the segwe

1172
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 4: you're not moving fast enough. And I just say, please, Americans,

1173
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: get off the segues, get rid of them, put your

1174
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: walking shoes on, and let's move, you know God.

1175
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of drama about like who belongs

1176
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: in what because the bike lane has become a place.

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Where I see a lot of walkers. And this is

1178
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: a recipe for d I S A S C.

1179
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 7: Spell it exactly, want to go, that's NYU work it out.

1180
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: That's in the college.

1181
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: I do hesitate to bring up what is the carbon

1182
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: footprint on those too?

1183
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: I know.

1184
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: You're releasing something something for nothing.

1185
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: It's like it's not getting you anywhere faster. So it's like,

1186
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: and I do. I could go on about scooters too, Yeah,

1187
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: you know the electric ones that you know some of

1188
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: my staff ride without helmets.

1189
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 5: Yep.

1190
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're up in there now.

1191
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1192
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1193
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just glad that I don't drive anymore with

1194
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 4: the scooter madness, because who are you looking out for

1195
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: that pedestrian, the biker the scooter who's like they're they're

1196
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: on the sidewalk, they're off the sidewalk. Are you with

1197
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: us or not?

1198
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 6: They're in the streets, the street in front of cars.

1199
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 6: It's dangerous.

1200
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: Do you think if you got behind the wheel of

1201
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: a car now you could still sligh?

1202
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 4: I drive?

1203
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: You drive well?

1204
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: I drive in certain places, yes, I say, And I

1205
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: can still drive.

1206
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I have not been in the car with her drive, which.

1207
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: Like what it doesn't count because you haven't seen it,

1208
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: so you get Usually they drive behind me. They know

1209
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: I can drive. I have not had an accident. I

1210
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: remember how to do it. It's like riding a bike.

1211
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it.

1212
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what is kind of like I've taken

1213
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: like ten month breaks because I will go to like

1214
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: New York for a while and then come back to

1215
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: l A and I get and I'm.

1216
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: Like, you know, you know, you know I'm not a

1217
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: stick And I'm like, do do I know how to

1218
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: do that?

1219
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: That? That again? Again?

1220
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 4: My first car was a stick. I do it makes

1221
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: you feel like you're really driving? Yeah, crank, I'm engaged.

1222
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm doing this. This car isn't moving without me.

1223
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: Everybody wishes they were a race car driver, you.

1224
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: Know, and it all goes back to race car drive.

1225
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: He's a Formula one fanatic.

1226
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: You are you feeling right now? In this moment? It

1227
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: seems like it's really there's a ground swell.

1228
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 6: I cannot wait to see the movie to see how

1229
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 6: banging okay we are.

1230
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: We're going to go to the theater with.

1231
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: All the sound around and around sound and take the

1232
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: boys and get the popcorn on.

1233
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: Maybe that's how we get him the Broadway. That if

1234
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: Formula one goes on Broadway, maybe we'll see you saw

1235
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: we were talking about talking about that.

1236
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 6: I think it was Romeo and Juliet, but it wasn't

1237
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: on broad.

1238
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 4: It So have you ever been to a Broadway? I have,

1239
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 4: but I can't remember what crazy You're not?

1240
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 5: No?

1241
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: I saw Hamilton he's not my brother Hamilton, not on Broadway.

1242
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but he.

1243
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: Didn't remember it like it did come to mind like

1244
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 4: I think. I think he doesn't know.

1245
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 5: I can't.

1246
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 2: It's just not don't know.

1247
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: It's like, how do you not know it?

1248
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: Because it's because you do. And you know what I

1249
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: saw miss on the movie. I enjoyed it.

1250
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 5: There you go.

1251
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it publically publically, so did we there, guys?

1252
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 5: Really I enjoyed that.

1253
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm going to amazing and I'm going to

1254
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 4: take you to some Broadway show you love, oh Mary.

1255
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: I But you guys have to understand.

1256
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 6: So I have thirty two year old and still have

1257
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 6: a thirteen year old, and in between I'm coaching teams

1258
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 6: where I have fifteen other people's kids in.

1259
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: My care so, and it had an excuse.

1260
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: I wanted them to play well for me. So I

1261
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: didn't take him to a Broadway show. I took him

1262
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: to a baseball game.

1263
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: More sporting all the time. You don't go to New York.

1264
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: You were just there?

1265
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I.

1266
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 6: Was not there, Kelly and the Yeah, I guess I'm

1267
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 6: trying to.

1268
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: Like Hell's Kitchen because law here, it's so good and another

1269
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: thing the boys would.

1270
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: So our kids.

1271
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 6: We take our kids to see stuff in our area,

1272
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 6: but we just haven't made a sojourn to broad.

1273
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: You'll know a lot of too, obviously because it's Alicia.

1274
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: So it's like that's another way in too, I think,

1275
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: because that's it's like kind of controversial, the Wholy jukebox

1276
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: musical thing because I love it, but it is a

1277
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: way to bring people to Yeah.

1278
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I was thinking about what you guys were

1279
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 6: saying when you were talking about empty nesters and what

1280
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 6: you're going to do now and once I finally get

1281
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 6: there in five years, not like I'm counting, but we'll.

1282
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: Do stuff like that. Yeah, we'll do stuff like it'll

1283
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: be there, It'll be there.

1284
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: It's exciting to get to. Like my parents are traveling

1285
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: internationally for the first time ever now and in this

1286
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: phase of their life. They're going to Greece in September,

1287
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: and I'm just so excited for them. And it's just

1288
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: something that wouldn't have happened before because whatever, like financial

1289
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: concerns or time or whatever.

1290
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: So it's it's a real like a gift to get

1291
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: that any new experience opportunity.

1292
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: I think I'm a is going to get you into

1293
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 4: a whole new world of culture, and you know.

1294
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Okay, I mean, so you guys,

1295
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: you guys are loving.

1296
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 5: Doing the podcast.

1297
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh it's so much, so good. You know, we

1298
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 6: were so close growing up and then work in all

1299
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 6: the White House that it just us apart, and now

1300
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 6: we get to be back together kind of like we

1301
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 6: were before. Because when we are together, it's as if

1302
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 6: we are in the same bedroom throwing the pillow over

1303
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 6: the top and she's catching it and throwing it back

1304
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 6: to me. You can feel that, I can feel you

1305
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 6: can feel that. Oh yeah, oh you can feel no, yeah, absolutely.

1306
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: And I mean, like we will say, you know, before

1307
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: before we wrap, I just want to say that we

1308
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: had such an incredible time.

1309
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: On your podcast and.

1310
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: Just to even like be able to talk with you

1311
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: guys and get to know you is so special. And

1312
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: the fact that you'd welcome us onto your platform is

1313
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's moving, emotional, it's so fun and all

1314
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: the things, and so we just had the best time today.

1315
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 4: Well, you guys are special. You really are smart as

1316
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: all get out, funny, talented, the advice you give, the

1317
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, the joy, the fun you're bringing into people's lives.

1318
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: You know, we need it right now and we couldn't

1319
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: be more proud of you both. And it has been

1320
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 4: an honor to spend this time with you. But it

1321
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 4: will not be the last time we're podcasters. Now we

1322
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: are part of the podcast.

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Speaker 5: You guys are the experts.

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Speaker 4: So we feel we still have not fully talked about

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Speaker 4: the Old house by so we may need. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: do a whole tutorial for him. Yes, that's a good primer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, start with New York season seven when Bethany comes back.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, for you to think about.

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Speaker 4: So clear, that's a clear direction because.

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Speaker 5: It's how I started it. I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: Whenever people ask me how to get into survivor, which

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Speaker 2: we're also big survivors, Okay, Now I have a syllabus, okay,

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Speaker 2: and this is important and helpful.

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Speaker 1: It's a tool. It's academic.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So all right, I was gonna start with the

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Speaker 6: Rhode Island Housewives, but I'm gonna sell Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're giving you a lot of conflicting information.

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Speaker 5: And we're saying a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: That's okay, we can sum it up. We'll give him

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Speaker 4: a memo.

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Speaker 1: Follow directions.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you guys are amazing.

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Speaker 2: Our joy and you can listen to I m O

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Speaker 2: wherever you get.

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Speaker 4: Your wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: We and ever you ever saw with the song.

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Speaker 2: On my own pretending he's be beside me.

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Speaker 1: This is lame miss, I know.

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Speaker 5: To listen to the rest of lame Miss. You can

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Speaker 5: stream the soundtrack I Know by.

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Speaker 1: Last.

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Speaker 3: Culture Racist is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 3: Players and iHeart Radio podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yek, executive

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Speaker 2: produced by Anna Hasnier and

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Speaker 3: Produced by Becka Ramos, edited mixed by Doug Bami, Aniko

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Speaker 3: board and our music is by henryk Birski