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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Billy to Jericho.

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Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Henderson.

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Speaker 1: And I could barely get it together to start that sentence.

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Speaker 4: I threw a surprise at you and the agenda right away.

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Speaker 4: So you've just been laughing for like five minutes, folks.

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Speaker 2: Let me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you a little little taste of

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Speaker 1: what it's like to do a podcast with Danielle.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, we have an agenda.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we plan things. It's you think that

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Speaker 1: we're just you know, it's all off the dome. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have an agenda. We have bullet points

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Speaker 1: and things that we want to talk about. Even at

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Speaker 1: the beginning where we're just chit chatting. And so I

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Speaker 1: opened this stupid agenda and like and and information just

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Speaker 1: popped out at me and I was crying laughing, and

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Speaker 1: I could barely start the podcast this week.

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Speaker 4: So well, we both we both have things to discuss,

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Speaker 4: and I just I got to put it out there.

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Speaker 4: And look, a lot of you will discover this during

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Speaker 4: dirt Bag June when you're just brawless more often than

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Speaker 4: you have been possibly in the past.

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Speaker 3: But my fucking nips are lower.

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Speaker 4: I took one, like they're lower. And here's here's the thing, Like,

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Speaker 4: I not only I just took intense intimate care of

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Speaker 4: my grandmother for the past like a year or two.

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Speaker 3: So I know where bodies go.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not afraid of aging and sagging and all

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Speaker 4: that shit. Like she has the kind of boobs were

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Speaker 4: like her nips are pointing straight down now and like

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Speaker 4: resting on her stomach like that is coming for all

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Speaker 4: of us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yes, I totally get it.

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Speaker 4: But I also grew up with that bitch, so I've

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Speaker 4: been seeing the progression over time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I did not she was not modest out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was growing up. So I just looked in

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Speaker 4: the mirror. I was wearing a T shirt, no bra,

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Speaker 4: brushing my teeth. Looked in the mirror and I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to get those grandma nips.

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Speaker 3: They're lower.

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Speaker 4: Like I looked for them and they were in a

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Speaker 4: lower spot than they usually were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. I mean, like you said, it happens

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Speaker 2: to all of us.

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Speaker 1: The SAgs, sagging begins, but.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do about it, because like, what

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Speaker 3: am I gonna do? Sleep in a bra. Are you

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Speaker 3: fucking kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Life is way too short for me to start sleeping

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Speaker 4: in a bra.

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Speaker 2: You know, guys, ball sag too?

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Speaker 1: Do they talk about that as much as we talk

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Speaker 1: about the saggy boobs the saggy balls.

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Speaker 4: That they do not, and they should because have you

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Speaker 4: ever seen old balls?

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Speaker 1: No, to be honest, I've never seen old balls, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen them on TV.

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Speaker 4: I've seen old balls in real life and it is

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Speaker 4: bone chilling.

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Speaker 3: Old balls are.

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Speaker 4: Fucking shocking because you're like, I didn't think they had

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Speaker 4: that much give. I did not think they had that

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Speaker 4: much gift they had. I didn't think they had that

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Speaker 4: much more to go. Like, I thought that where they

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Speaker 4: were was comparable to whatever is inside and going on

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Speaker 4: in your adult life. And then the male body is like,

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Speaker 4: how low can we fucking go? It's like, let's fucking

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Speaker 4: limbo this shit with some balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all for normalizing the SAgs, Like, I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Why not? I feel like that gets talked about.

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Speaker 1: Less than saggy boobs and it enrages me, and so

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Speaker 1: I just would like, I would just like to know

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Speaker 1: generally if saggy balls are in the conversation, the national

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Speaker 1: conversation more than saggy boobs.

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Speaker 4: So you way in, yeah, way in are you talking

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Speaker 4: about your saggy balls with your friends?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so now that you have this information, are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get like a nipple lift or what?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with the information now that you

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Speaker 2: know it?

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Speaker 4: Right now, I'm just treating my body like a science experiment. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, let's just see what happens over the years,

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Speaker 4: because I'm not doing shit.

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Speaker 3: I refuse to even get like an underwire bra with

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Speaker 4: Like, when I'm wearing a bra, they look fine, it

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Speaker 4: look like what I expect them to look like. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but now in that bra comes off, I'm like, these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's start, I know. And it's there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of things starting for me too that.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm very interested. I'm just ending in a wait

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Speaker 1: and observe moment as well, because yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of like i mean, we've talked about the chin hairs

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Speaker 1: and the ear hairs and the all that stuff, the

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the.

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Speaker 1: Saggy boobs thing, I'm just like, okay, yep, I see

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Speaker 1: I see what's happening here and see you know, granted

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Speaker 1: I've that's a brag, but I've had big boobs pretty

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Speaker 1: much all of these. Okay, but that's a brag. But

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Speaker 1: I'm like a total russ Meyer schick.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So it's always been an issue for me in terms

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Speaker 1: of like buying bras and things like where I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I just it's just more more to consider when gravity

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Speaker 3: When you got some heavies, those heavies.

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Speaker 4: Just start they have a mind their own after all

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Speaker 4: you can there's nothing you can do. They're just like

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Speaker 4: little alien beings living on your body. There's nothing you

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Speaker 1: You got the heavies, yes, and they all fall down,

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Speaker 1: and all of them do, even those small ones, even.

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Speaker 4: Small boots fall, so you know, small boobs fall and

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Speaker 4: they start looking like wet wet mittens.

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Speaker 3: God, it happens to all of us.

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Speaker 4: But I just I feel like they're still pointing out,

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Speaker 3: They're not pointing down. When they start pointing down.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna buyas our coffee is and be like

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Speaker 4: the time is now let's.

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Speaker 3: Just wrap this shit up.

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Speaker 4: But so they're still pointing forward, but they are so

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Speaker 4: down there now. Yeah it's interesting, but you got body stuff,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, because now that I have a lot more

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Speaker 1: free time on my hands, I have decided that I

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Speaker 2: As possible now because why not.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, it comes It's not anything more than it

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Speaker 3: You like, and you love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but it really is the only thing.

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Speaker 1: Like that has made me feel good in my life,

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Speaker 1: like from the day to day, like and I've never

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Speaker 1: tried medications, so I don't really know what that could

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Speaker 1: I sleep better. So anyway, I'm obviously like, not having

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Speaker 1: try to regulate these feelings by extra You do.

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Speaker 4: Not want to get shingles, you got to keep exercise

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Speaker 4: and keep those shingles at bay.

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Speaker 1: I am, trust me, I I am not trying to

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Speaker 3: I can't. Stress is the cause stress is.

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Speaker 4: Stress is an inciting moment for for shingles.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, stress, stress manifest and really really terrible ways

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Speaker 1: time to recover just generally, Like you know, I bought

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Speaker 1: Was like, okay, here's here's my my Now I have

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Speaker 2: And I just think that now it's as my I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is like a meniscus thing.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not a doctor, so I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: But I have been inspired by all of the basketball

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Speaker 1: Giant bags of ice on top of each knee and

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Speaker 3: Like a they use that kinesiology tape to like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I love seeing that tape. I love kinesiology tape. It's

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Speaker 4: just like you see it on somebody's back and you

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Speaker 4: look what the fuck's going. Oh, they got like some

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Speaker 4: muscle thing that they're trying to keep in place. And

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Speaker 4: when I see those bags of ice taped on a knee,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, hmm, age is coming for us.

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Speaker 1: All I will say this. It works for me, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. Maybe it's just like wishful thinking.

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Speaker 1: I also think that there is, because it's not like

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Speaker 1: proven that it's like one of those like gray area

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Speaker 1: things where it's like it could work. But it's more

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Speaker 1: like it could be that the tape is stimulating blood

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Speaker 1: which that apparently whatever that is is happening and it.

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Speaker 2: Works right, And plus it's cool to wear. It just

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Speaker 4: You got like you know, you can like rainbow bright

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Speaker 2: I do like pink and black, and I like, come in,

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, gotta get those comrades. I had fucking comrade

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Speaker 4: Means, I will be a Comrade model and a heartbeat.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm going to get a t shirt

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll give you a tip. This is a

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Speaker 4: Lights are up, bitch, when the lights are up, you

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, we're speaking of our bodies. We're about

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Speaker 4: It's been very revelatory and just really fun and interesting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so for this episode, we are going to do

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and do you want to tell the folks

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, I personally.

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Speaker 1: this point that somebody could die at twenty two, because

447
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: it's just so. But it happens a lot, and you know, tragically,

448
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: senselessly sometimes. But like I think for her, like I

449
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: was just really interested in seeing like her films because

450
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: at some point right before she died, she was basically

451
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: on the way to becoming a movie star, or at

452
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: least that's kind of like what she would she wanted

453
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: at that time was to kind of transition to film, so.

454
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Speaker 4: And that's the hard part about you know, when famous

455
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: people die young, it's hard always because it's just such

456
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 4: a weird. It's just out of sync with the way

457
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 4: the world works. But I think with Aliyah in particular,

458
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 4: what always struck me about her dying so young as

459
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: I really felt like, even though she'd already had so

460
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: much success, she was really on the cusp of like

461
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: changing her life personally and professionally, right, and it would

462
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 4: have been so cool to see where she would have gone,

463
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: Like she definitely in my movie you can kind of

464
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 4: see that, Like her acting is a little bit not great,

465
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: but it's there, And in your movie she's already a

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: ton ton like ten times better with the acting.

467
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's just because of the

468
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: roles of the directors or what.

469
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 4: But like she I really think she could have been

470
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 4: someone who eventually like took Janelle Monette's role in Moonlight

471
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: or something like that. Like she was just moving into

472
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: a more thoughtful and interesting place, and I think it

473
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: would have been cool. Like we were really cheated out

474
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Speaker 4: of being able to see what she could have been.

475
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: Yes, And you know, I recently watched the Whitney Houston

476
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: Casey Lemons movie that came out recently, and there was

477
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: a part of the movie where they talked about Whitney

478
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Houston moving from music to film, right, and about how

479
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: she wanted to make a movie, and you know, of

480
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: course The Bodyguard came along, and she was in other

481
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: movies after The Bodyguard too, and so.

482
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Speaker 2: It'll weird way.

483
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: I was kind of like thinking about that when I

484
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: was thinking about the Ilia movies, because I was like,

485
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: it's so weird that she was only in two and

486
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: then was and then past, you know what I mean.

487
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: So it's that thing where it's like, you know, who

488
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: could she have been in.

489
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: Her thirties in her forties, like now would you know?

490
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: And especially when you think about what's happening now with

491
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: TV and streaming and like series. I mean, she could

492
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: have been so many things now, you know, and just

493
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: knowing that she's kind of encased in these two films, you.

494
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, and just even thinking about like her, she

495
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: had a very deep friendship with Missy Elliott, who you know,

496
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: every year on the anniversary of her death, like always

497
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: posts these really heartfelt posts like she really misses her friend.

498
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 4: And I think about like how creative Missy Elliott is

499
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: and how she's changed her career so many times and

500
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 4: done so many different types of things, and you know,

501
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: to of like Aleah would have benefited from that as well,

502
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: Like I think she would have had someone in her

503
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: corner really pushing her to do something different and to

504
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: be a little bit more more wild. And so yeah,

505
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 4: it's just it's a really big loss for the music community,

506
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: it's a big loss for film, and she's just a

507
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: big loss in general. Like she just seemed like a

508
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: really again, like a thoughtful and very together and cool.

509
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: Kind of person. Like I just would have loved to

510
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: have seen what she could have done.

511
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you consider like she had essentially been performing,

512
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: you know, at such a young age, I mean, I

513
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: think that she was ten when she was on Star Search.

514
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of how she got her big break. And

515
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: then of course, you know, she was affiliated with R.

516
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: Kelly for her early career, Like she met him essentially

517
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: when she was making her first album, and I know

518
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: that there is a lot to say about that era

519
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: of her life. And from what I've read, you know,

520
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: basically they were married for a year, the marriage was

521
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: annulled she was technically fourteen, even though she admitted to

522
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: lying about her age when she had when they had

523
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: gotten married, and after that, after the annulment, she basically

524
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: separated from him and then that was it, Like she

525
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: she didn't even want to talk about it in the press,

526
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: like she avoided questions about him. And so because of that,

527
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Danielle and I have decided to kind

528
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: of not go there, yeah, right at all, respect for

529
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of what she wanted.

530
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think I think that's fine to respect

531
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: that because there's a ton of information about him out

532
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: there if you are interested or if you don't know

533
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: about him like he is. You know, he's been convicted

534
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: of many crimes, and so I don't think we need

535
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: to get to drag her into that side of the

536
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 4: story because she can't tell her own story, and she

537
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: also didn't want to.

538
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly so, but you know, I think that she's

539
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: a great person of focus on for this episode.

540
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: I will say this.

541
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: This might be a first time for me at least

542
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: on this podcast, but I had never seen either of

543
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: these films.

544
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, did.

545
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: You watch them? As a true double speech?

546
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: Yes, I did, And I.

547
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: Have to say, you know, they both are so about

548
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: this time period for me, like especially my film Man.

549
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to get into it, but I'm.

550
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Like, both of these movies came out around the same

551
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: time to early two thousands, right, and of course right

552
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: before she passed.

553
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: Away, and they are the most early two thousands movies.

554
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, these movies are.

555
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: I read an article on Vulture that was released in

556
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: two thousand and twenty one about the It's called The Imperfect.

557
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: The title is The Imperfect Legacy of Romiam Must Die

558
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 4: by Beatrice Loyasa, and she talks about this film as

559
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: being a movie that was kind of kind of made

560
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: for the MTV TRL generation, And both of these movies

561
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: feel like that to me, like they were of a

562
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: time for sure.

563
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, especially my movie, which oh yeah, I

564
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: have to take great care around.

565
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: Let's just say that.

566
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: So why.

567
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: Because I look, this is something that I have thought

568
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: about a lot while doing this podcast, which is that,

569
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, in this era of music especially, I was

570
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: a full ass adult of drinking age, so I processed

571
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: this scene so much differently than somebody who was like

572
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: eleven years old, right, And that's the thing is that,

573
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: like I have to be conscious to not completely trash

574
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: an entire generation because I'm like, it's not my stuff, right,

575
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: because then I'm the boomer. I'm the dumb boomer that's like,

576
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, this whole thing was trash.

577
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, it was not gonna lie.

578
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: But like I mean, I've gone on record saying that

579
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: it's like the early two thousands are so dark, it's

580
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: like unspeakable culturally. But like, I don't know, somebody probably

581
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: watched my movie and thought they were activated. The new

582
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: metal goth scene or whatever that's going on in this

583
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: movie is probably like their Eagles, their Beatles.

584
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

585
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Look, they saw that Jonathan from Korn cameo and we're like,

586
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: this is the life for me, this is it? Well,

587
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's fair to.

588
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: Make any statement we want about the music in this

589
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: film without trashing an entire generation, because this is some

590
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: of the worst music I've heard in the history of

591
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: music in this film, and I'm not afraid.

592
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: To say it.

593
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: I don't care if you were activated, if you fucking

594
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: rock this soundtrack and loved it. This is some of

595
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: the worst movie were songs I've ever heard.

596
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: In the history of music.

597
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: So I definitely think it's fair to say, yes, it

598
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: was not music for us, but we can also know

599
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: we also have an opinion about music from our own

600
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: place in life, and it's.

601
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Fine, exactly, just a caveat to anybody who's about to

602
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: come in our mentions and say, like drowning pool is

603
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: the what made them a human being or something. I

604
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: I am processing this stuff at a different place in

605
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: my life, so please don't.

606
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: Come at me new metal fans, Okay.

607
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: All I know is whenever I hear that.

608
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: The beginning of that song, I feel like someone's about

609
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: to get beat up. Like I am not about it.

610
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: It's like, oh God, someone's gonna get shot or stabbed.

611
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: What's fucking happening.

612
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: It's like a true doorbell to aggression like it's just

613
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: like it's coming absolutely all right, Well, without any further ado.

614
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Uh, we are going to tackle in a Leah double

615
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: feature this week. And my movie was made in two

616
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: thousand and two. It was directed by Michael Raymer. The

617
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: screenplay is by Scott Abbott and Michael Petroni and it's

618
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: called Queen of the Damned sad Mouth.

619
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Whatever do you want?

620
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: I've come to give you the world.

621
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: So I gotta say, uh, talking about another Anne Rice,

622
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: you loperty, you.

623
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: Love going back to this bitch you are. Let me

624
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: see what the stats up to.

625
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: God check in with the stat every once in a while.

626
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Learned I learned a lot since the last time, Like

627
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: from interviewing event, from interview with a vampire, I've learned

628
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: a lot.

629
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: Wish to say this.

630
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: Alongside eminem, the entire city of Philadelphia and hackers. I

631
00:31:54,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: am not saying bad shit about Ann Rice. Ever, does

632
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: not come for me.

633
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: With your mail bombs, yes, please do not. The and

634
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: Rice fans are.

635
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: Very protective legion legion, but.

636
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm comfortable saying this.

637
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is this, of course again, is the

638
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: second and Rice property that we're talking about on the podcast,

639
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: and this was Queen of the Damned was the second

640
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: attempt at Hollywood adapting the Vampire Chronicles, which of course

641
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: are the books the and Rice put out featuring the

642
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: stat and the Queen of the Damned is technically the third.

643
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Book that came out in nineteen eighty eight.

644
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: It goes Interview with the Vampire, then the Vampire less

645
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: stat and then Queen of the Damned. Okay, And as

646
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: we know now, you know Anne Rice hated interview Interview

647
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: with a Vampire when it first came out.

648
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: I just went to say, because you know they're gonna

649
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: come for us, is it interview with the vampire?

650
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did it again. I keep saying

651
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: interview with a vampire.

652
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna come for us.

653
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, listen, I mean interview with the vampire.

654
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: Why do I say a vampire because it makes more

655
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: grammatical sense if I do it too.

656
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: What it's like, It's really just like, are we just

657
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: interviewing any vampire?

658
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: Are we gonna interview the vampire?

659
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: It's the one that we could find, the one we

660
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: could find. If they could find more, if they could

661
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: have pulled up moreaus, it'll.

662
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: Be a vampire.

663
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: God damn it, I knew I was gonna do that.

664
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: So anyway, what so basically, this was the third book

665
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: out of the Vampire Chronicles, and like, as we know,

666
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Anne Rice came around on Interview with the Vampire right

667
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: because at first she didn't like it. She could understand

668
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: what Tom Cruise, the most famous dude ever, was gonna play.

669
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Stat and then she watched the movie and then issued

670
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: that apology to top Cruse like you were actually amazing.

671
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry for trashing you're camp king.

672
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: However, I don't believe that she came around on Queen

673
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: of the Damned.

674
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: How could she? How could she?

675
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Okay? I read an article on the house Stuff Works

676
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: website talking about how you know, Anne Rice was kind

677
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: of dismissive of the film, and then I guess on

678
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: her Facebook page at a certain point she actually told

679
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: her fans to forget that the movie ever got made

680
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: or some damn even though the article had said that,

681
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, she was in good spirits about it when

682
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: it first kind of came out, but then after she

683
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: saw it, she kind.

684
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: Of just like was like, I don't like it and

685
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: buried it.

686
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: And then apparently she was not even really in vaulved

687
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: in it from a writing perspective, which I think like

688
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: was kind.

689
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: Of a sore subject for her too. So I just

690
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: felt like Queen of the Damned was kind of like

691
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: not her back.

692
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: No, and you take a book written by Anne Rice

693
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: and you use two men to adapt it, you're going

694
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: to get a different flavor, exactly right.

695
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: And you know, the movie didn't do so hot at

696
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: the box office when it came out. It got really

697
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: bad reviews, which I think is unfortunate for Aliyah.

698
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and we'll get into that.

699
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: But this movie was in fact the last film that

700
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: she made before she passed away, and she had shot

701
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: the entire film. But you know, as you know in movies,

702
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: lots of things happen after principal photography. You know, a

703
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: lot of times actors come in and do audio or

704
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: reshoots or whatever.

705
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: And what I think is.

706
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Really interesting is that it's almost kind of like a

707
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Paul Walker thing with The Fast and the Furious, where

708
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Aliah's brother actually came in after her death and did

709
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: some audio work in her absence for the film, which

710
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: is very fascinating. Obviously, that's cool, now, I know, we're

711
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of doing it in reverse this week because my

712
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: film came out after your film, but after.

713
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: Romeo Must Die, which is your film this week.

714
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: She was like, they were kind of like, okay, cool,

715
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: Like she can act. You know, she's obviously a famous musician,

716
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: so let's try to put her in this you know,

717
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: big vampire movie, which you know is kind of the

718
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: thing that we talked about in the intro, which just

719
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: makes her death kind of more sad because it's like

720
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: she was kind of, you know, in Locke with becoming

721
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: a big movie star. Now again, I have not seen

722
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: this movie before. However, I remember all of the press

723
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: four like when it came out and all of the posters,

724
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: all of the video aren't she It was her?

725
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: It was everything, don't you remember? It was like that

726
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: head piece.

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: And then of course, I mean, we have to know

728
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: that Aliyah has the flattest, thinnest, most perfect torso of

729
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: any human to have ever.

730
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: Lived, Like six packs, every outfit is a crop top.

731
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

732
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: Like remember when we in that episode, I don't know

733
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: remember what movie were talking about.

734
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: We were talking about.

735
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: How the long flat torso was the absolute look of

736
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: the nineties because it was like any and the fashion

737
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: was basically set up to accentuate that. So you had

738
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: like tiny little handkerchief tops with like low rise jeans.

739
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 4: Yep, this is that was Kieran Knightley's moment to shine. Yes,

740
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: the long torso queens had it locked in this era.

741
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: Yes, and Aliah was probably like the best representation of

742
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: that look she had, you know.

743
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: And she knew and she knew it because that's the

744
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: way she moved.

745
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: She kind of shook that lower part and it was

746
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: very like slinky and you know, she knew what she had.

747
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: Let's get serious, And that's what this movie is, in

748
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: a nutshell, is to a Liah's torso. But it's that

749
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: thing of like she was on everything. It was like

750
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: she was on the posters, she was on the box art,

751
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and so, being that I had never seen this movie before,

752
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: I thought that she was gonna be in it the

753
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: whole time.

754
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I found out after watching.

755
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: The movie, she kinda doesn't come in until the middle

756
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: of the film exact, and generally she is not in

757
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: it enough in my.

758
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: Opinion at all.

759
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: The whole movie should have been Aliyah.

760
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, and that is something I want to talk to

761
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: you about too.

762
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Because I gotta be honest with you, I'm kind of like,

763
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: why hire this very famous musician who was beautiful and young?

764
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: And then she's kind of this like secondary character to Lestat,

765
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: which I get it it's a Lastat film, but like

766
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: it almost felt like his story was extremely front and center,

767
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: and then she was just kind of like this weird

768
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: thing that happened every once in a while, you.

769
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

770
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: Her story, her backstory, especially as Akasha, was more interesting,

771
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: Like I wish I would have seen the things that

772
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: they were talking about instead of them just talking about them,

773
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: because the Stott is a real mouthy bitch in this movie.

774
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: He does not shut up.

775
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: It's like from the minute the movie starts, he's like

776
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: talking about how he's going back to the grave and

777
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: then he's coming back because he hears this music and

778
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: but he's just like talking and talking and talking. But

779
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: there's nothing really happening in his story except that he

780
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: pissed off all the vampires and they're gonna come for him.

781
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: Like what else is going on there? Her story was

782
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: more interesting.

783
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: No, no, exactly, and part of me believes and like

784
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: I said, I'm trying not to disparage the entire generation

785
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: of when this.

786
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: Movie came out. But part of me feels like it

787
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: was because we were in this like really weird era

788
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: of masculinity and of like and it just feels like, well,

789
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: of course they're going to focus on you know, Lestat

790
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: being a rock star and you know, make his whole

791
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: like rock star story front and center versus a woman's story.

792
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: Right.

793
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: If this movie came out now, it would be all

794
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: about Eliyah Big exactly.

795
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, how

796
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: the tide changes, Like.

797
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Nobody would give a fuck about you know, Lestat starting

798
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: to band. Basically, it would be all about her and

799
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: all about her, you know, her story, her rise, her costumes, every.

800
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: King, everything, Like show me that king.

801
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: Don't just tell me about his story, show me the

802
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: king in Egypt and the sands of time, and like

803
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: show me this.

804
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: Shit, right.

805
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've gone on record saying that

806
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: I felt like the early two thousands was a really

807
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: low point for feminism, and I feel like maybe this

808
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: is maybe that's why the story is is like that is,

809
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: but you know, like agreed, that's why the story is

810
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: what it is.

811
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: However, so.

812
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I thought about giving a one sense synopsis, but it's

813
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: really kind of just like complicated. The story is kind

814
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: of complicated. It's very much about Lestat in the Vampire Okay,

815
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: and the general gist of the film is that he

816
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: was sleeping and was awoken by a band and then

817
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: decided I want to be the least singer of that band.

818
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: I can't believe that this is the music, Like, you

819
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: came back from the dead for this.

820
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: You came back to Earth for this.

821
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: You skipped the fifties, the sixties, you skipped led Zeppelin.

822
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: You skipped all of that shit.

823
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: You even skipped like fucking death metal and fucking Hollywood Medal.

824
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: This is what you came back for. He has always

825
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: been the tackiest fucking bitch.

826
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: I I'm like, you could have joined Abba.

827
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: That seems way more lastat than being in a new

828
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: metal band.

829
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: You couldn't. You couldn't play backup guitar for Bowie. Are

830
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: you kidding me? Like this?

831
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: That was your time to fucking shine.

832
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: And like we alluded to, this entire movie is fueled

833
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: by early two thousand's New Metal Okay. Jonathan from Korn

834
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: the band Corn did all the music for it. He

835
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: actually is the voice of Lestat when he's singing okay,

836
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: which I just I'm gonna have to just like opt

837
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: out of commenting on that because I think so I

838
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: think Lastatus.

839
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: I don't think the voice is bad. I think the

840
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: lyrics are fucking god awful. Oh god.

841
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: And you know I watch everything with subtitles, so I

842
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: was like, I want to fall into a hole and die.

843
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: One of the lyrics, I'm just gonna pepper these in

844
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: throughout your commentary.

845
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: One of the lyrics is you think you're smart, You're.

846
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: Not actual sang it out in a song.

847
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: You think you're smart, You're not like school ground taunts.

848
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: It's it's just it like and look granted, like, I

849
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: know that Lastatt is a very like as a character.

850
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: He's ostentatious and like flashy, and he loves drama, and

851
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: that's like great, yes, King of the Goths, we know this,

852
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: but I just felt like I don't know him. Being

853
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: the lead singer of a new metal band in two

854
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: thousand and two was just like really just did not

855
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: settle well with me.

856
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, Lestat, now I.

857
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Gotta see you in his band, right, And here's the

858
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: other thing about the about the story. So Lastat is

859
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: the lead singer of a band and he's out here

860
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: telling everybody he's a vampire, which is not part of

861
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the vampire rules.

862
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: You're not a lot to tell people you're a vampire.

863
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: You're supposed to just like live in darkness, sucking on rats,

864
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: crack it open rats alone, in your in your house,

865
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: your old house, Like you're not supposed to be out

866
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: here in Rolling Stone magazine being like I'm a vampire.

867
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm in a band.

868
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: And also the lyrics I have are about all this

869
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: old wisdom shit that I'm trying to use to lure

870
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: other vampires to me. So I'm giving away secrets and

871
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: like left and right, Like I'm talking secrets just by

872
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: being a personality, and I'm singing secrets right.

873
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: So in the film, Lestat is out here.

874
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: He is out here talking all the vampire secrets.

875
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: So all the other vampires in the world are like,

876
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, we gotta fucking shut this guy down.

877
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: He's like telling too many of our secrets, Okay, So

878
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is that he there's there's also

879
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: a side story of this girl named Jesse Okay, and

880
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: she is played by Marguerite Moreau, and she is a

881
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: human who is working with the Talamuga.

882
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called.

883
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: What is it called talamascin I believe?

884
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Okay, let me look this up. I gotta get this right. Talamasca.

885
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: I think it's Talamasca. Oh yeah, So Jesse is part

886
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: of this paranormal studies group called the Talamasca, which is

887
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: part of the ana Ice universe. Okay, And she's like,

888
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: I've watched Lestats band on MTV or whatever, and then

889
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: goes to her mentor and says, you know, do you

890
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: know that this is happening?

891
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, yeah, we know. Lastat's a vampire.

892
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: He was created by this other vampire named Marius, Okay,

893
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: and Marius is it's kind of a similar story in

894
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: interview with a vampire, where it's like, here's the vampire

895
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: and then the vampire that made.

896
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: Him learn his origin story.

897
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got kind of like a Daddy scenario again.

898
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: But then essentially, you know, these paranormal researchers figure out

899
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: that Lestatte kept a journal and Jesse gets it and

900
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: reads it and learns that basically Lestat through his music,

901
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: by the way, has awoken.

902
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: A queen named Akasha.

903
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: Okay, and Akasha is played by Aliyah as we know,

904
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: and essentially now he summoned her back to Earth, and.

905
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: There's this whole like weird backstory of like she was

906
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: a stone statue that was kept in Marius's house but

907
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: then Lestat like bit her and like fed off of her,

908
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 4: so they're connected. It's just like that kind of that

909
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: kind of backstory that's like, all right, this is very convoluted,

910
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: and we don't necessarily need it get to Aliyah.

911
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, and like that's why she doesn't pop up

912
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: until like.

913
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: Half of the movie, because you have to.

914
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Establish the Stat's band, and the STATS band being like

915
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: on TRL, then you have to establish Marius, and then

916
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: by that time then we get to the Akasha story,

917
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: which I agree is very convoluted, because you know, she

918
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: there was a king. He doesn't he's either died or

919
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: doesn't come back, only her. But then eventually she and

920
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: le Stat get together and she wants him to be

921
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: her new king, which is all there is a lot

922
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: of vampire lore that I think would take a millionaires

923
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: to get into.

924
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: But then so this Jesse woman is also involved. She

925
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: is a human being.

926
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: She has an aunt named Maharet is that her name?

927
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: And she's played by Lena Olin.

928
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: More on that later.

929
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: But then, as it turns out, her aunt is somehow

930
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: part of this like you know, old Order of Vampires

931
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: who are trying to stop Akasha from coming back.

932
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: Right, So it's just a lot of story, But it's

933
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: like this thing where.

934
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm a little You're watching lastat Pull, very Lastat Moves

935
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: in the two early two thousands, where he is like

936
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: bringing groupies back to his hotel and killing them. He's

937
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: wearing very low rise pants, so you're seeing I mean,

938
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: I think you see like shaved pubes at one.

939
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: Point on the Statlash.

940
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: Stuart Townsend, who plays Lastat By the way, he's.

941
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: Got the worst taste. Still. If you thought that tacking

942
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: his tackiness.

943
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: With like his fucking pianos and coffins and interview with

944
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: the vampire were bad, well now he's upped his game

945
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: to like at one point there was like a Han

946
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: solo in carbonite kind of decoration hanging out. He's just

947
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: got like some little pewter skulls hanging out.

948
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, God, he's so fucking taggy.

949
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: Why does it bother me so much, Yes, exactly, And

950
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's just that thing of like and it's

951
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: all to the soundtrack of this like new metal music.

952
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: It frankly drives me fucking crazy. It's kind of like,

953
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm I just tried really hard to stay with it.

954
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this music is pretty bad.

955
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: I also, and in terms of talking about Jesse, I

956
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: don't think that her storyline was needed.

957
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: I didn't really love it.

958
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 4: I wasn't tied to it, and they're kind of trying

959
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: to do this forced romance between her and the Stott

960
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: that I just never quite bought into. And there's this

961
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: one scene that is so fucking painful where she's like,

962
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 4: make me a vampire and she like cuts her boob

963
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: because it's always got to be like on the boob,

964
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: so she like slices into that boob and then she's

965
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: like he's like, okay, let me pick you up, and

966
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: just like she's like, oh, I know what it's like,

967
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: and he just like never ending stories her to the

968
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 4: fuckingd Griffith Observatory and they're just doing a Paula Abdul

969
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: Rush Rush video and.

970
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

971
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very like Aladdin, like a whole new world.

972
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

973
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: He's like they're like flying through the air, like you know,

974
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: I can show you the world, like look my vampire shit.

975
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: Like it's just that, except it sounded like a nice song.

976
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: It's like it's the corn like.

977
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and like and and this is the thing

978
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: is that, Like again, this is happening when we could

979
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: be talking about Elia's character right, Like it's just like

980
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: in lieu of this other more interesting part of the story.

981
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 4: Aleiah has already like made her fucking presence known by

982
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: fucking descending upon a coven and then destroying it and

983
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: walking out of fire.

984
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Dude.

985
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Probably the best part for me was when she torches

986
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: all those like white pasty vampires in that nightclub, which

987
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: is like a nightclub where it's it's like a vampire

988
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: bar where vampires take.

989
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: It's like they take all these like really like pasty, boring,

990
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: middle aged white dudes. They all look like John Smoltz.

991
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: From the from the Atlanta Braves, Like they all like

992
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: John Smoltz looking guys, and they're like, you know, I

993
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: guess maybe these guys think they're going out with like

994
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: a real wild goth or something, and then they get

995
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: fucking eaten.

996
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: You remember that model in the nineties Eve She had

997
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 4: like a shaved head with the big tattoo on it.

998
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what the vams looked like.

999
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: And then the fucking guys they were with were all

1000
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 4: like fucking Lenny from the Mailroom.

1001
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and like you really think you're not gonna get

1002
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: eaten up?

1003
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, they were all just like boring guys.

1004
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: But it's the funny things part is that like Akasha

1005
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: comes into the bar and she's just like all these

1006
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: vampires obviously are like trying to get her her because

1007
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: I guess they don't want her out of her.

1008
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: Tomb or whatever.

1009
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: And she at one point pulls out a vampire's heart

1010
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: and then eats it in front of everybody.

1011
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 2: It's awes me, How.

1012
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Is that not the whole fucking movie?

1013
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: She lights people on fire with her thoughts? How is

1014
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: that not the whole movie?

1015
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just like, wow, I can't believe it took

1016
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: so long to get to this fucking awesome scene, right,

1017
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: And so what ends up happening is that this entire

1018
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: thing kind of congregates at this epic concert that Lestat

1019
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: is going to play in Death Valley, and I gotta

1020
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: say this shit is straight up Woodstock ninety nine, like

1021
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: with the fires, the open fires and everything.

1022
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: I'm like this the stat concert is Woodstock ninety nine.

1023
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: Literally good, it truly is.

1024
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: And I read somewhere that they found like the production

1025
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: because this was filmed in Australia apparently, and they ended

1026
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: up finding three thousand goths from Melbourne from the Melbourne

1027
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: nightclub scene to be in this Death Valley lastat concert scene.

1028
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 1: My I'm surprised I found three thousand goths. I gotta

1029
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: be honest, like three thousands.

1030
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: I've never been to Melbourne, but I definitely am shocked

1031
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: by that number. I would love to know what was

1032
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 4: going on in early two thousands, Yeah, Australia, Like you

1033
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: guys are riding the heels of fucking midnight oil.

1034
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: How did it turn so hard? From Peter Garrett to

1035
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: three thousand goths?

1036
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, I mean, this whole scene

1037
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: is very triggering for me, but you know, when it

1038
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: comes down to it, like Acasta shows up at the

1039
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: concert and fucking causes causes chaos, which I loved. I

1040
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I love anytime she's on screen. The

1041
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about Alea in this film

1042
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: is says she has a very acting accent, you know,

1043
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: beyond that she looks amazing.

1044
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: She does have a sex scene.

1045
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: With Lestat in a bathtub, which if it were any

1046
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: other movie I would think was really great, but since

1047
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: it was set to the music it was set to,

1048
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: it made it.

1049
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: Very creepy for me.

1050
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 3: Boner Killer.

1051
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean, even though what I do think is pretty

1052
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: interesting is like Aliyah being an R and B star

1053
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: was in a movie essentially ostensibly about rock and roll music,

1054
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: which I think is kind of cool. And it's kind

1055
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: of cool to see her knowing who the kind of

1056
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: music that she makes be in this movie that's like

1057
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: very much not her music genre, right, And at a

1058
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: certain point, I do think that her and Stuart Townsend

1059
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: kind of look great together and they're like, you know,

1060
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: young and beautiful and that's really cool.

1061
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: But just like that, I don't know, the aera just

1062
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: really colored it for me.

1063
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: There.

1064
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: I will say that it was unbelo.

1065
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: Believable to see Lena Olin bite into a Leah's neck

1066
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: at one point, like, when on Earth has that ever happened?

1067
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: It?

1068
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: Entertainment history. I was like, holy shit.

1069
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: Lena Olin, who is if you're a crossword player, a

1070
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: consummate crossword New York Times crossword star, they're like famous Olin,

1071
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: this famous Lena that those four letters, the having two

1072
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: names that are four letters has set her up for success,

1073
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: for perpetual success.

1074
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: That is fucking fascinating.

1075
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1076
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I mean, look, I like I said,

1077
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of rough for me, just because I

1078
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: know that the scene of this film is so not

1079
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: my thing, and I really am disappointed by the fact

1080
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: that Aliah was not in it as much as I

1081
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: thought she would be. But anytime she's on screen, she's great,

1082
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: even in that kind of shitty accent, not gonna lie,

1083
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: she's awesome.

1084
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: And like, you know, I don't know, I is that

1085
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

1086
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Too where you look at this from today and you

1087
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: were like, oh that this would have never like, it

1088
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: would have been a complete opposite story. If this film

1089
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: or this you know, if it was a TV series

1090
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: or whatever she was a part of an an Rai's

1091
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: property in the modern era would have been totally different.

1092
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: She would have been like the star of it and like,

1093
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: and she would have probably had her own trajectory in.

1094
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: Her own story, her own you know everything.

1095
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 4: So, yeah, they would have spun it out, it would

1096
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: have been it just would have been different and interesting.

1097
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: And I think that maybe they were. I like that

1098
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: you mentioned the marketing materials. I think it's interesting that

1099
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 4: they used her image to market the movie, but they

1100
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 4: seem kind of timid about using her acting in the movie,

1101
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: and I wish that that was reversed. I wish that

1102
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: they just Yeah, because her acting in the film, like

1103
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: I said earlier, it's improved. It's an improvement upon what

1104
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: we've seen in Romeo Must Die. And I don't know

1105
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 4: if that's it's not because the script is good. I

1106
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: think if it's because it has to be because the

1107
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: direction was better. But she kind of fit this role

1108
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: more organically. Yeah, And I think that it was just

1109
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: really an interesting role for her to take. Like you said,

1110
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: it's about a whole different scene and it's a whole

1111
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: different time. She's like playing this old Egyptian like like queen.

1112
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: But I thought her acting was great.

1113
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: I thought she was great in this movie, and I

1114
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: wish it was more about her and less about fucking

1115
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: hit bones McGee.

1116
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1117
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: Well, and part of me wonders if you know, if

1118
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: she had been alive, maybe they would have reshot it,

1119
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: maybe they would have gone it would have gone to

1120
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: some level of notes where they're like, she needs to

1121
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: be in it more or whatever, and she could have

1122
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: done that. But you know, just the fact that she

1123
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: was only there for principal photography and that's it. You know,

1124
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe it could have been different. I mean

1125
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: it's all a big like what if. Who knows, but

1126
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to me, I think that this could

1127
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: have been her Black Goth princess moments and she could

1128
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: have done so much out of that, and like it

1129
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: would have been so so awesome to see her like,

1130
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, continue in this mythology or something, but totally

1131
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: unfortunately it didn't happen. But you know, honestly, for me,

1132
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad I watched the film. It was really a

1133
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: time capsule of this era, yea, And it was great

1134
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: to see her alive and you know.

1135
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: Doing her things. I mean, she's incredibly sexy.

1136
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean it just really really really like impressively attractive

1137
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: and sexy and interesting.

1138
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, yeah, absolutely, I really like her

1139
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: in this movie.

1140
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your movie, though, My goodness, oh, let.

1141
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 4: Us get into it. So my film was released in

1142
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: the year two thousand. The screenplays by Eric Burnt and

1143
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: John Jarell. It was directed by Andredge Bart Hawiak.

1144
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: And my movie is Romeo Must Die.

1145
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Okay, whatever my father and

1146
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: man our Intu has nothing to do with It's been

1147
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: a long time. We shouldn't have left you without adult

1148
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: beats step two.

1149
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 4: I mean clearly, we're gonna talk about the soundtrack, which

1150
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: is incredible, like talking about.

1151
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: Like a time capsule.

1152
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: Yes, incredible soundtrack from Jump as Billy has Damn. Now,

1153
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to give a one sentence synopsis because

1154
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: this movie is all over the fucking place. It suffers

1155
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: from a little thing I like to call too much movie.

1156
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1157
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 4: Very popular in the eighties and they brought it back

1158
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: for the two thousands. So my one sentence synopsis is

1159
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: a son and daughter from rival Oakland gang families team

1160
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: up to figure out why their fathers are trying to

1161
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: get into football, how to wind mill someone in the face,

1162
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: and why everyone keeps killing their siblings.

1163
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Wit mills.

1164
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: We love a windmill king on this podcast kick.

1165
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: I love why of people get kicked in the It's

1166
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: just this part of my soul.

1167
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 4: So this movie is set in San Francisco, which I

1168
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: have some familiarity with. I used to I used to

1169
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: live in in North California.

1170
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: There'd been an hour and a half outside of San Francisco.

1171
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: So San Francisco's kind of where I hung out a lot.

1172
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 4: And just having some some strong trauma moments at the

1173
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 4: beginning of this movie was interesting for me. Driving around

1174
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: cable cars can go to hell. I hated driving in

1175
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: San Francisco, Yeah, because you'd be driving and then either

1176
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: you have to go around the cable car or like

1177
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: you're stuck in those grooves for the cable cars, like

1178
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: the grade, the hill and those hills are nothing.

1179
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: To fuck with. I do have a story where I

1180
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: tried to park.

1181
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 4: I parked on a hill so I can go to

1182
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: a concert in the North Beach area. And I parked

1183
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 4: on the hill and I was parked like facing like.

1184
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 4: I drove up the hill and parallel parked, and then

1185
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: I could not get out my little toy order tre

1186
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: Cell was not moving because every time I tried to

1187
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 4: go backwards the wheels, I felt like I was going

1188
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: to crash into the car behind me, and so I

1189
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 4: was doing those little, tiny like backward forwards movements and

1190
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 4: then eventually someone saw me trying to do this from

1191
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: their apartment and called the cops to help me move

1192
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 4: my car.

1193
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Ohly shit.

1194
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: It was a dead end fucking hill and the cops

1195
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 4: drove up and they were.

1196
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: Like, get out of the car. Let us do this

1197
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: because you're you're gonna fucking smash that car behind you.

1198
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude.

1199
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: And I was like embarrassing, but great.

1200
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, like terrifying driving a San and you could drive

1201
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. You are, as far as I'm concerned,

1202
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 4: a Formula one, Formula one fucking superstar.

1203
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh my gosh. Yeah.

1204
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I remember one time when I was in San Francisco,

1205
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: like this was at the height of my workout era,

1206
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh, I'm just gonna walk up

1207
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: the hill because I had coworkers at the time that

1208
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: were like taking ubers just to drive up a hill

1209
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to walk. And I was like, nah, man,

1210
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, and I were redded it

1211
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: like halfway up.

1212
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: I was like, uh uh, I should have taken an uber.

1213
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: Is it too late? To call it an uber to

1214
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: go three blocks because this shit is rough.

1215
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: You're like halfway through, you look up and you're like,

1216
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 4: why am I in that Jamiroquai video where I'm like,

1217
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 4: somehow still on the sidewalk but on parallel to the earth.

1218
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: What is fucking happening right now?

1219
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? I could imagine driving there, it is walking there.

1220
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. It is wild. Never been in better shape my

1221
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: entire fucking life. It is wild.

1222
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: Wow.

1223
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: But so this this, you know, this movie is set

1224
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: in the Bay.

1225
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 4: Area and primarily in Oakland, and we kind of start

1226
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: out again with like these kind of streets of San

1227
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: Francisco kind of vibes. It made me question something immediately,

1228
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: which is like, how how difficult is it to load

1229
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: a gun in a car? Because in movies they always

1230
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: make it look like it's no big deal. But when

1231
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 4: you're driving over these like cable car rivets, like there

1232
01:02:54,440 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 4: have to be accidental shootings. Yeah, Like I'm loading a

1233
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: gun and then I'm going either straight downhill, straight uphill, or.

1234
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: In the rivets of a fucking cable car. So just

1235
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 3: a thought.

1236
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: But basically, the reason this movie is called Romeo Must

1237
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: Die is it's like a hip Hop Kung Fu reimagining

1238
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: of the Romeo and Juliet story. So we have our

1239
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: capulus and our montagues who are in this movie, the

1240
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: Ode family and the Singh family, and it's black family

1241
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: gangs versus a Chinese family gang. And right off the bat,

1242
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: the first seat in the movie, you're like, they hate

1243
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: each other on site, they have beef on site. So

1244
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: there's a turf war that is so intense that two

1245
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 4: women are basically having sex on a dance floor and

1246
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 4: these two guys.

1247
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 3: Come over and they're like, absolutely not.

1248
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 4: You can't be here, not because of the two women

1249
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: having sex behind you, but because you're Chinese and you're

1250
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: in a black bar.

1251
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 2: Yes.

1252
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 4: And the person in the bar is Po sing he's

1253
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: the son of this again Chinese gang family. And Kai,

1254
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: who's played by Russell Wong, kind of comes in and

1255
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 4: he's like his his watcher. He's like, you know, we

1256
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 4: got this shit going on with these this gang, and

1257
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: you gotta calm your shit down, Po, and he doesn't,

1258
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 4: and it kicks off into a fight, one of the

1259
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: first of the first of many, and it's the kind

1260
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 4: of fight where if I were to encapsulated, it's like,

1261
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 4: let me kick this man through a glass bar right

1262
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 4: before I then have to turn around to fight Huggy Bear.

1263
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 4: Like one of the dudes at this club is just

1264
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 4: dressing like he's just had like a big afro in

1265
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: like seventies gear for no reason. And it ends in

1266
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: that super early two thousands choreographed way where it's like

1267
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: ninety five guns pointing at people.

1268
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I was like this era of the

1269
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: like sort of reservoir dogs. He like, everyone's got a

1270
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: gun pointed at somebody and there's like ten guys and

1271
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: it's like a you know, like a like one guy shoots,

1272
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: then the dominoes fall like it's and.

1273
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: Everyone's holding two guns like they're pointing in every direction.

1274
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: It's parodied beautifully.

1275
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 4: In movies like Hot Fuzzz, you know, but like that

1276
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 4: is the vibe.

1277
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: That is the vibe.

1278
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 4: Plus then DMX shows up rest in peace King, like

1279
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 4: King DMX shows up to play peace Maker.

1280
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: He's the owner of the club. And so this is this, this.

1281
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 4: Is the turf war that has been set up, is

1282
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: these these two gangs hate each other. Then we get

1283
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: to a scene where a paper boy is just traumatized

1284
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: real quick because po The next morning is found hung

1285
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: from a telephone pole like an old pair of sneakers. Wow,

1286
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: And we don't know why or who did it or

1287
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: what's next. All we know is that the heads of

1288
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: the family, who are played by Delroy Lindo who plays

1289
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 4: Isaac O'Day and Henry O who plays Cho Sing, they

1290
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 4: got to get together and talk about this because they

1291
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: don't want any beef popping off because.

1292
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 3: They're doing a major deal.

1293
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 4: Where I guess each family owns half of the waterfront

1294
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 4: where this company wants to build a new football stadium. Yes,

1295
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 4: so they're like, we need those deeds to get signed,

1296
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: we need everything to go smoothly so that we can

1297
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: all be rich and be part of building this new stadium.

1298
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 4: So half the movie you're watching the henchmen go around

1299
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: and like try to intimidate the business owners of the

1300
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: waterfront to give up their businesses. And then the other

1301
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 4: half of the movie is we're also going to just

1302
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: fight each other in between. And there's some great, I

1303
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 4: mean some great minor roles in this film. dB Woodside

1304
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 4: plays Colin, who's Isaac o'dey's son. Nerds will know him

1305
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 4: as one of the principles on Buffy you will recognize

1306
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 4: him from that for sure. You've got Isaiah Washington rest

1307
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: in piece of your career playing Mac, who's like and

1308
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: he's like the right hand man for Isaac. And then

1309
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 4: again you have Kai who's the right hand man for you.

1310
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 4: And Anthony Anderson also shows up and is like the

1311
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: comic foil, but he's also supposed to be watching a

1312
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 4: Leah's character.

1313
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: So he is so insane in this movie.

1314
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh over there.

1315
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he is hilarious.

1316
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: That scene where he's playing the is it like John

1317
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: Madden football game, the video game, and he's like screaming

1318
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: like you know, like how guys play video games. They

1319
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: get really into him and he's just like trash and everybody.

1320
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: It's really funny.

1321
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 4: It's so he is so over the top in this

1322
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: fucking movie. And there's a really funny scene where they're

1323
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 4: playing touch football, which I will get to where the

1324
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: scar on his lip keeps moving like the scab on

1325
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 4: his lip that from the fight he got into with

1326
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 4: Han earlier.

1327
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: It just keeps me moving sides and.

1328
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is some continuity shit that should have

1329
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 4: been caught.

1330
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: I did not notice that. Yeah, but I'm glad that

1331
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: you did.

1332
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 4: That's there's continuity shit like that all over the movie,

1333
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: where like mac Isaiah Washington's character will be walking with

1334
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: Isaac and in one scene he's like, he's smiling, and

1335
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 4: then when they cut to the next part of the scene,

1336
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 4: he's just dead faced.

1337
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 3: There's no continuity to be in checked.

1338
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just mercurial, Danielle.

1339
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he's just like he's like, let me, let me

1340
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 3: calm this smile down. So you know, I'm serious.

1341
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: But it's like this big, huge family drama Romeo and

1342
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: Juliette's style, capulous montaguese. Like I said, so it's all

1343
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 4: being set up. Poe is killed and that kicks everything off.

1344
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: What is going to happen? Who killed him? Isaac's like,

1345
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 4: we didn't do it, So now we got to figure

1346
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: out what the fuck happened.

1347
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: But don't worry, because we're gonna go to Hong Kong

1348
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: real quick because we got to get Jet Lee riled

1349
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: the fuck up. Now.

1350
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 4: Jet Lee is playing Han Sing, who we later find

1351
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: out is Poe's brother, and his backstory is that he

1352
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 4: used to be a cop and he took the fall

1353
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 4: for his father and his brother in some crime. So

1354
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 4: he gets sent to prison, and they're like, cool, we're

1355
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 4: going to America to set up this fucking empire.

1356
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: Have fun in the Hong Kong prison pace.

1357
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 4: So he's in prison and he finds out that his

1358
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 4: brother has been murdered, and that's all he needs to

1359
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 4: know to stand up and beat someone's fucking ass with

1360
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: a bowl of fried rice. Ah, He's like, let me

1361
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 4: get a guard real quick in the dome with a

1362
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: bowl of fried rice. Gently again an incredible martial artist.

1363
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 4: I read in a couple of interviews that when this

1364
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: film was made, his English was very limited to the

1365
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: point of almost non existence.

1366
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: So they're like, we just needed a.

1367
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 4: Film where it didn't depend on his dialogue too much,

1368
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 4: like it just depended on action. And boy did they

1369
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 4: get it, because after he cracks someone in the dome

1370
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 4: with a with a bowl of fried rice, he does

1371
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 4: a one legged, upside down ass kicking for a room

1372
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 4: full of guards and escapes prison.

1373
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's his bronze and moment. Basically, he just goes

1374
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: ape shit in the jail.

1375
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 4: It's awesome, absolutely hanging upside down with one on like

1376
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 4: being hung by one leg upside down and still kicks

1377
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 4: a room full of ass it's incredible.

1378
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: It is so fun.

1379
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 4: So he escapes prison on a bike, a bicycle, not

1380
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: a motorcycle.

1381
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 3: A bicycle.

1382
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: And then we're in Oakland again and we get to

1383
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 4: meet Aliyah. So Aliah enters a little bit sooner than

1384
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 4: she does in Queen of the Damned. And what we

1385
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 4: know about Aliyah and her character Trisha' Day is that

1386
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 4: Trisha's not about that life. She's like, I will use

1387
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: your money to open my clothing store, Serpentine Fire, but

1388
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 4: I ain't about my dad's shit that all.

1389
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: Is there anything more early two thousands than a clothing

1390
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: store named Serpentine Fire. It also has a DJ play

1391
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: like play like the latest club hits, and they sell

1392
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: low rise baggy pants.

1393
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's got to be some clothes with flames

1394
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 4: still screened on them. I fucking love Serpentine Fire, me too,

1395
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 4: taking me back? You got a low rise bill Bottom

1396
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: going on a long and lean flare.

1397
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: Oh my god, nothing, I'll take you back further. But

1398
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 3: she's you know, she enters dancing.

1399
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 4: She does a little choreographed move with some kids who

1400
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: are just you know, always around, always around. Why is

1401
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 4: a Leah taking care of all these kids? Like she

1402
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 4: runs a fucking clothing store, not a daycare, I know,

1403
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 4: and she's constantly taking care of these kids in this movie,

1404
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what is happening Anyway, she enters dancing,

1405
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 4: and then we are back to jet Lee for a moment.

1406
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 3: How did he get to Oakland?

1407
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter, doesn't he any part of the narrative. He

1408
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: just got there, And he steals a cab right around

1409
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: the time that Aliyah is trying to shake loose the

1410
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 4: Anthony Anderson character Moe, who's been you know, charged with

1411
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 4: watching her because her father's like, you know, they think

1412
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,919
Speaker 4: we killed Poe.

1413
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: She's gonna pop off.

1414
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: So she gives him the slip and hops in the

1415
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: back of this cab that she thinks is just a

1416
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: regular old cab and runs away with Jetly. And then

1417
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 4: through a series of moves, we figure out like they

1418
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: kind of come back together and both trying to figure

1419
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 4: out these mysteries that are affecting both of their families.

1420
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: So jet Lee goes to his brother's apartment, tries to

1421
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 4: figure out the mystery of who killed him, comes back

1422
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: together with.

1423
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: Aliyah, and Aliyah is.

1424
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 4: Like Mac everyone wants to date her in this film,

1425
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 4: and it makes sense, like she's so cute, totally makes sense.

1426
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: But Mac is really putting on that's her her dad's

1427
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: right hand man. He's really putting on the heavy moves

1428
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 4: and is like such a psychopath. Yeah, he's truly psychotic

1429
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 4: in this film, and is like you should be with

1430
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 4: me because I'm gonna be the shit and you're gonna

1431
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 4: wish there are two of me, and then he like

1432
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 4: yells at her and it's just like way too much,

1433
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 4: like way too much.

1434
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of has this like weird like he

1435
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: kind of looks like Dawn Cheetle from like Devil in

1436
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: a blue dress, like wearing this like weird suits and stuff. Yeah, glasses,

1437
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: major creep, major creep, and.

1438
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: He he has one. There's one scene here's what you

1439
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: need to know about Mac.

1440
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 4: Mac goes to intimidate one of the business owners on

1441
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 4: the waterfront, and it's this guy who runs a crab business,

1442
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: crabbing business, and he threatens the dude by grabbing him

1443
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 4: by the neck, shoving his face into a bar full

1444
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 4: of crabs and just scooping the crabs towards his face

1445
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: with his gun, Like you have a gun and you're

1446
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: just scooping these crabs, like you will get pinched a

1447
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 4: fucking dead like he's insane.

1448
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: He's insane.

1449
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 4: And the guy tries to protest and he's like what

1450
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 4: and they starts scooping some more crabs and.

1451
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 3: The guy's like, all right, all right, you can have

1452
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: my business.

1453
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: That is he is the coldest motherfucker on the streets,

1454
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: the crab Scooper.

1455
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: You hear about this, dude. You hear about crabs.

1456
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: Crabs in your face and that will pinch your ass

1457
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: to death.

1458
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: You hear about crab Man.

1459
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 4: He has trained crabs, had a plucking eyeball out with

1460
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: one claw.

1461
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: Crab Man, don't fuck around.

1462
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: Look it's the crab guy.

1463
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 4: Mac is out of control and so as there goes.

1464
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: Aliyah and Han are sorry. Trish and Han gently and

1465
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 4: Eleiah are kind of teaming up and falling a little

1466
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 4: bit in love. There's this touch football game they're meeting

1467
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: at the park. Of course, she's taking care of twenty

1468
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 4: five kids. She's getting like a million ice cream cones,

1469
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: and Mac kind of talks Han into playing football. He's like,

1470
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 4: I've never played before, and they keep kicking his ass

1471
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 4: like they keep you know, they're using this as a

1472
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 4: reason to kick his ass because he's already encountered Moe

1473
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: and his gang and beat the shit out of them.

1474
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 3: So they do these. He takes it for a couple.

1475
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 4: Of rounds and then he does He's like, no, it's cool,

1476
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: I got the hang of it, and he does these

1477
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 4: like in air spirals like he's a football being launched.

1478
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: Like this game is so over the top.

1479
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 4: By the time he decides to kick ass using martial arts,

1480
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 4: it's like a pile of bodies behind him.

1481
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 3: His moves are wild.

1482
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: He's like, let me hold on to your neck and

1483
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 4: swing around you like I'm on a fucking pole so

1484
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 4: I can kick this other dude in the face. Like

1485
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 4: it is just the choreography again of these fight scenes

1486
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: is wild. Yes, but you're going to get a fight

1487
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: scene as much as possible. You're also going to get

1488
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 4: a scene where Trisha's brother and girlfriend are simultaneously thrown

1489
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: out of.

1490
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: A window into the water murdered.

1491
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 4: We don't know who murdered them, but again everyone thinks,

1492
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 4: because of this rivalry that it's like the Chinese gang

1493
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 4: did it. So they're launched out of a windows simultaneously,

1494
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: which just brings up a couple of questions for me, one,

1495
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: could they have survived that because they did land in water.

1496
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: I had a moment where I thought that too.

1497
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, they seem to have been alive

1498
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: when they smashed through the glass. Yeah, and it looks

1499
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: like it's a port, so it looks like the water

1500
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: is probably pretty deep. They could have maybe provided that

1501
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: nothing happened to them before they crashed through the glass,

1502
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 1: but it was unclear.

1503
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 4: It was unclear like when they unzipped the body bags

1504
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: after they go into the water and we find out

1505
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 4: they're dead.

1506
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 3: They don't show any like stab wounds or gunshot wounds

1507
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: or anything like that.

1508
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 4: So you assume they went to the water hole and

1509
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: as they're going down, they're like, you know, moving their

1510
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: arms and shit, so like they were alive. I feel

1511
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 4: like this is a question that should be on par

1512
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 4: with did Kate have enough room for Leo on the

1513
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 4: door at the end of Titanic? Could Colin and his

1514
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 4: girlfriend have survived in Romeo must die?

1515
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: Agreed, because their death sets off so much, so much shit.

1516
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 4: Everything really pops off at this point and Tricia triciaan

1517
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: Han are like falling in love at this point. They're

1518
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 4: starting to fall for each other, but now both of

1519
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 4: their fucking.

1520
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: Siblings have been killed. Yeah, and we're assuming the other

1521
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: family did it all?

1522
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 4: Right?

1523
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: Question for you right now? I don't know if that

1524
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: you were going to bring this up. So I you know,

1525
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of what I had read

1526
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: about the film, like from a review standpoint, was that

1527
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,480
Speaker 1: they that Gently and Aliah.

1528
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: Were not a good pair.

1529
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: Yes, Uh, I think I'm probably less like, I actually

1530
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: think they're not terrible. Now that we know that his

1531
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: English was not great is probably why they probably didn't

1532
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: have a lot more speaking.

1533
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 2: To each other.

1534
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: And I and granted he was like thirty seven when

1535
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: this movie came out and she was like twenty something, right.

1536
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 4: Yes, there are several reasons why I feel like their

1537
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,879
Speaker 4: pairing didn't work and I wasn't really buying the romance

1538
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 4: yeah at all. Yeah, particularly because one of the very

1539
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 4: next scenes after he finds after Han finds a cane

1540
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 4: in his brother brother's car that is literally a cocaine cane,

1541
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 4: a coke cane, and he finds all these addresses and shit,

1542
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 4: you find the cokecine. And then they go to the

1543
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 4: salvage yard. They're like checking these addresses that they find,

1544
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 4: and Han uses Trish as a fucking human weapon and

1545
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 4: the most insane fight scene I have seen in.

1546
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: A very long time.

1547
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: So good.

1548
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 4: So I'm like really having a hard time buying the

1549
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: man's part of it because I'm like, it seems like

1550
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 4: you just want to use her to like win Mills

1551
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 4: some people in the fucking face, and.

1552
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: You're way more.

1553
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 4: It's just there's nothing really charming about them together. But

1554
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: they fought well together, and they were funny together. I

1555
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 4: just wasn't buying the romance part of it too much. Sure,

1556
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 4: but that scene is fucking wild, Like he's like, I

1557
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: can't hit a woman in the face, so let me

1558
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 4: use your fist to punch her, and then let me

1559
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: use your actual body to like kick her. Yeah, And

1560
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 4: it's a technicality that I'm getting around, but also still

1561
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 4: fully engaging in my misogyny by using a woman as

1562
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 4: a weapon.

1563
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, no, this is this is the thing that

1564
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: I actually thought was so fun about the movie is

1565
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: the fighting in it.

1566
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, now that we have.

1567
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: Stuff like the Matrix and John Wick and things like

1568
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: and even just any action movie that has come out

1569
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: since two thousand, right, you'll look at this the stuff

1570
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: and be like, wow, this is like so dated, But I.

1571
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: Actually found it really fun.

1572
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: Like I found the fighting and the kind of like

1573
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: there were these scenes where like gently would kill somebody

1574
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: and then it would show this like X ray of

1575
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: like the blow going into the human body and like

1576
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: destroying someone's spine or something like that, like.

1577
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: Their arm is snapped and you like see the X

1578
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 4: ray version of the arm being snapped.

1579
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I'm an exploitation girl at heart.

1580
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,879
Speaker 1: I love the stupid shit, Like I love stupid fighting

1581
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: and stupid like fight scenes and like just really like

1582
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: impossible to imagine like ways of killing people with like

1583
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: martial arts and shit like that to me was really fun. Absolutely,

1584
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: And yeah I agree that, Like it is like there's

1585
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: a moment where Jently is like I can't hit a

1586
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: woman or whatever.

1587
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: And so I guess that's kind of like why he

1588
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 2: uses Aliah.

1589
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: Like all she does is like get propped up on

1590
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: his on his side, and then she starts like roundhouse

1591
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: kicking people, I guess, And it's like, Okay.

1592
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: How do they figure that out? How do they know that?

1593
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 2: How do they have the body chemistry to figure out

1594
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: this scene?

1595
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 3: Who knows he's.

1596
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 4: Like simultaneously dancing with her, like doing those swing kid moves,

1597
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 4: but like the action picking style.

1598
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: He's like, let's do those swing kids, but also beat

1599
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: this bitch.

1600
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right about that. There's like no chemistry obviously.

1601
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: I think that it's not as bad as I think

1602
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: people had written about.

1603
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Right, Like, when I watched it, I was like, oh,

1604
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: they seem like as people.

1605
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: They like each other, like as Aleiah and gently that

1606
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: they're cool to be in a movie together. They don't kiss, ever,

1607
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: which I think is very interesting, And maybe it's just

1608
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: wishful thinking on my part because I you know, I

1609
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: love it a racial love, so I'm like, I'd love

1610
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: to see this Asian guy get together with this black woman.

1611
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: Come on.

1612
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're just kind of like they're like very

1613
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: platonic too stiff.

1614
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're super platonic. It's very weird.

1615
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, that scene is just what I mean,

1616
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 4: this salavage yard scene. There's also a moment where like

1617
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 4: these people on motorcycles are basically trying to kill them,

1618
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: and one of the motorcycles does a little jump on

1619
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 4: this sign that Han has dropped with the car, and

1620
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: I swear to God that motorcycle hangs in the air

1621
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 4: for like five minutes. He's like shooting and hanging in

1622
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 4: the air like five I'm like, this is this movie

1623
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: defies the laws of physics and sense just to make

1624
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: a good scene right now.

1625
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: A lot of gravity defying situations completely, Like, oh, you're

1626
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: just holding the motorcycle between your fucking thighs for five

1627
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: minutes while you're shooting at this couple.

1628
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, it is wild.

1629
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 4: The ending of this movie has like three different showdowns.

1630
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm not even going to get.

1631
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 4: Into it, but I will say that there is a

1632
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: point where they mentioned the title of this movie in

1633
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 4: one of the showdowns, and it sends me over the

1634
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 4: fucking edge with laughter every time.

1635
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: I cannot handle it.

1636
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 4: But it is again, like read that article by Beatrice

1637
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 4: Loyaza on Vulture if you want to get more into

1638
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 4: the kind of hip hop kung fu phenomenon that was

1639
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: happening in this film.

1640
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: And I just think it's fun.

1641
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 4: I think it's a fun movie to put on, hang

1642
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 4: out watch on a couch on a Sunday afternoon. And

1643
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: you know, jet Lee's incredible, the fighting is incredible. Aliyah

1644
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 4: is so huge and so great and she's really like

1645
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 4: sassy and funny. Yeah, and again, just you know, the

1646
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: two movies that she was able to make before her

1647
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 4: incredibly untimely passing each brought something completely different to the table.

1648
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

1649
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, she's actually really charming in this movie, which

1650
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: I will say is different than my film. You know,

1651
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: in my film, she's obviously like a mythical creature, but

1652
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: in this film she kind of shows off. She's got

1653
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 1: a very natural kind of acting style to her. And like, I,

1654
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I never saw this movie

1655
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: when it came out, despite the fact that I do

1656
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: like jet Lee and I like, you know, martial arts films.

1657
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: Have you seen Cradle to the Grave?

1658
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, I seen Greatlan's to the Great Yeah.

1659
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, we gotta like put that on

1660
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: an episode. And that was the only thing. My only

1661
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: beef at this movie was that DMX wasn't in it enough.

1662
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: I was like, you should be in more scenes.

1663
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 3: He's only in two scenes.

1664
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 4: But that does bring up a good point is that

1665
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 4: DMX went on to make a couple more movie movies

1666
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 4: with Andredge Bart Kawiak, who's like an action movie director.

1667
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 3: In this vein so Yeah, he does show.

1668
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 4: Up in other films, but he was deeply underutilized in

1669
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 4: this one, and I think they could have benefited from

1670
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: putting more DMX in their life.

1671
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1672
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: I mean, as much as this, like the love Story

1673
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: doesn't work, there's obviously continuity problems, and there's just you know,

1674
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: it just seems pretty dated, you know.

1675
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Obviously, I still.

1676
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Think it's actually a pretty fun movie, and I agree

1677
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: with you.

1678
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: I think she's really.

1679
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: Good in it, and I feel I feel like in

1680
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: this movie she really does kind of show her acting

1681
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 1: ability a lot more than she does in Mind.

1682
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 3: But right, I mean all this.

1683
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: To say that this week is this you know, we

1684
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, bring this theme for Black History months,

1685
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: just to just to be able to talk.

1686
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: About, like, you know, in the same way that there are.

1687
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: White stars of you know, in classic movie history, like

1688
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: James Dean and people who have been in films that

1689
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: die really young and they have kind of a really

1690
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: small filmography because they.

1691
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: Just weren't alive enough to make enough movies.

1692
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of how you know, I think we were

1693
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: trying to bring that kind of topic.

1694
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: To the episode.

1695
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: Right, It's just yeah too, she was in two films,

1696
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: and you know, it could have been a lot more

1697
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: unfortunately not.

1698
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just think.

1699
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 1: It's interesting and also a good excuse to watch Tulia

1700
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: movies because I had never done it, so.

1701
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 3: I love it. And this theme was your idea. I

1702
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 3: can't believe you hadn't watched the film.

1703
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: That's because I'm like.

1704
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: Listen, I use this podcast as an excuse to watch movies.

1705
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: I think we know that, like we all we both

1706
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: do it.

1707
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,879
Speaker 1: We're like completely, you know, it's just this, this podcast

1708
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: is the trojan horse for our secret wants and desires.

1709
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: True, so you know the themes that we did.

1710
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 4: The themes are built so we can wedge the movies in,

1711
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: not the other way around.

1712
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.

1713
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, listen, if you want to email us, we are

1714
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: at I saw what you did pod at gmail dot com.

1715
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: As you know, we've got bonus episodes that are coming

1716
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: to the main feed, and we do mail bags. So

1717
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: guess what if you write to us and we like

1718
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,919
Speaker 1: your question, you could be featured in a mail bag episode.

1719
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. I saw what you did pod

1720
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,440
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.

1721
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 4: And we also have a po box if you want

1722
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 4: to find that and send us some stuff. You can

1723
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 4: look on our link tree on Instagram, and you can

1724
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 4: find us on our socials at I Saw Pod on

1725
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 4: Instagram and Twitter.

1726
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: We've also got merch.

1727
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Go to the I Saw What You Did section of

1728
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: the exactly Right shop to find our merch.

1729
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 3: And never get our bonus episodes.

1730
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 4: We've got new episodes dropping on the main feed every

1731
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,879
Speaker 4: third Thursday of the month. Plus the old bonus episodes

1732
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 4: are going to slowly be trickling out into the main

1733
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 4: feed every couple of weeks on Wednesdays. Soccasionally there will

1734
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,879
Speaker 4: be a week where you get a new episode on Tuesday,

1735
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,919
Speaker 4: an old bonus on Wednesday, and a new bonus on Thursday.

1736
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: It will happen every once in a while. It'll line up.

1737
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: That's right.

1738
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: Well, Danielle, do you want to talk about the movies

1739
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: from the next episode?

1740
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 3: I do so.

1741
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 4: Next week your homework is to watch Raising Arizona from

1742
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty seven and Possession from nineteen eighty one.

1743
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Dude, speaking of.

1744
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: Wedging a movie into a theme we want to talk about.

1745
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Yo, this is gonna be a mind melter episode. I'm

1746
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: going to say it right now, A barn burner.

1747
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: Perhaps, I truly cannot wait. As always, just love doing

1748
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 4: this podcast with you.

1749
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Yes, a fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you, and

1750
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: we will see you all next week.

1751
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: Word by.

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