1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Boys. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 3: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line, 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: Hutchison, Happy Tuesday, Cowboys Nation, Welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk, 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: presented by Invisiline right here in the SWBC studio. I'm 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: Nicole Hutcheson alongside Aisha Morrison, Bonnie jo Alassa, Christy Scales. Ladies, 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: what's up yeah. 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 5: NFL trade deadline. It was a good day. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 4: It was a good day. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: It's a good day around the commander. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 6: That part subjective. 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 7: Come am I ngo in my ngo, m I nga. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 5: He's last in every category. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 6: Mingo is his mamo. 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: That was a good one. Christ I like that. I 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: like that. Trade leadline has now come to an end. 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: It is four o'clock Central time, five o'clock Eastern time, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys so far have released Andrew Booth. They 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 4: have released Jordan Phillips, but they have received Jonathan Mingo 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 4: and a seventh round pick and they had to, of course, 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: give up a fourth round pick in the twenty twenty 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: five NFL Draft. Ladies, let's start there with Jonathan Jonathan Mingo, 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: now suiting up as a Dallas Cowboy who was a 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: Carolina Panther. He has two years left on his contract. 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: You look at his size, that's a good. 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 6: Thing to twenty. 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: What could he bring to this Dallas Cowboys organization? And actually, 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to you because you actually saw him 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: and you know there you go. 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, let me say that, like, this 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 6: is random. I was not expecting this. I don't know 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 6: if anyone expected this. 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 8: But when you talk about the player, this is a 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 8: he's young, very young, early in his career. We obviously 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 8: know all the things that's been going on down there 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 8: at Carolina. The quarterback is shoes, all those different things. 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 8: I want to say all those things before I say 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 8: anything else about him, because I think it's important to 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 8: talk about I know a lot of people are like, 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 8: what is this and why is this pick? 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 6: Whatever? 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 8: He's young, he wasn't in that good of a situation. 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 8: I'm not sure if I agree with the fourth but 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 8: this gentleman did have some promising tape from Ole miss 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 8: This is a guy who's he used his size very well. 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 8: He has fairly strong hands. He's pretty strong at the 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 8: point of contact. He has some trouble with that in Carolina. 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 8: I got to watch a few games before I got here. 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 8: This isn't a gentleman that's going to create a lot 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 8: of separation, but he's very tough. 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: He will block on the outside. 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 8: He's been making a lot of his money on special 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 8: teams as of late. But yeah, I mean as far 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 8: as as the receiving aspect goes, it's a bigger body. 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 8: Like I said, strong hands, strong at the point of contact. 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 8: For the most part, he has run after catchability. You 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 8: can line him up outside, you can do some things 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 8: with him in the slot, but I do think he 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 8: creates more separation on the outside. I schematically, I don't 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 8: know where he fits right now, but I do see 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 8: the promise in the player, and I'm going to be 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 8: optimistic about whatever he brings here in Dallas. 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 4: Let me ask you, two ladies, do you all agree 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: with this trade or do you feel like they could 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: have maybe done a little something. 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think I think we all probably agree 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 7: with Ayesha about the fourth round pick. 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 6: A guy who has one catch in the month. 73 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 7: Did he really you know four. 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: It fourteen catches all seasons? Yeah, So I mean they 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: but Carolina offense, I. 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: Know, No, they took him. 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 8: They gave up a fourth based on I think what 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,559 Speaker 8: they thought of him at the draft. 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 7: Right, because he was He went to Carolina in the 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 7: second round, and the Cowboys. Cowboys liked him. 81 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 8: That's and that's why, like that, I think that's why, 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 8: Like I think the Cowboys again Jim mentioned on the 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 8: radio today, they had this guy probably pretty high up 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 8: on their board. They saw an opportunity to get him, 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 8: and they. 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: Decided that. 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the biggest picture is that the fact 89 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 9: that he's in that really struggling Caroline offense. I think, 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 9: what can he do maybe here and be better only 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 9: being you know, season and a half in that, Maybe 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 9: that there's there's an upside to his game. 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. And the other thing is it's relatively it's cheap 94 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 7: labor because when you draft a guy high in the 95 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 7: second round, that team Carolina paid the big bonus. So 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 7: he's only in his second year. So I see this 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 7: as not something just for Hey, we need some immediate 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 7: help because we're not sure about CD's shoulder, and Brandon 99 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 7: Cooks is still on IR. This is for the next 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 7: couple of years because you're gonna have him under control. 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, two more. 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 7: Seasons and so so I think it's looking ahead. And 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 7: in regards to I think I used to write this 104 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 7: guy isn't a burner that you're gonna send on a 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 7: bunch of nine routes. But if he's a bigger, stronger 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 7: body who can make it contested, catch and run these 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 7: intermediate routes and some slants, hey, yeah. 108 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 6: Some deep overs. I know people have talked about. 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 8: I know people have talked about just some of the 110 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 8: stuff that when you look at his college tape and 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 8: some of the things he did not compare him at 112 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 8: all to a debot. However, you see some of the 113 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 8: vision of the things out the backfield, just getting the 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 8: ball in his hands. Not super duper route running guy, 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 8: but can do some things in the open field, breaking 116 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 8: some tackles and stuff like that. So I mean, that's 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 8: that's kind of what people parallel to him. His actual 118 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 8: his actual comparison was Ryan Flora, but we're not going 119 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 8: to do that today. There's similarities in their game, but 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 8: we're not going to go there. But yeah, I'm not I'm. 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 6: Not okay with the fourth I mean, and I say that. 122 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 8: Just from a draft philosophy man, Like I'm telling y'all 123 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 8: the last two years have done the draft. The day 124 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 8: like when they're going into that fourth round on that 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 8: day two is the day two Day. 126 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 6: Three, Day three three, third day, Day three. When you 127 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 6: get up in the morning, you. 128 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 8: Can just feel the prosperity in the air because the 129 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 8: fourth round is that we're around where guys fall or 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 8: guys end up being there that maybe they're still good, 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 8: maybe they got in trouble for something or something like. 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 6: It is such a rich part of the draft. 133 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 8: And to unless they see something in the future with 134 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 8: this kid, I don't get it. 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think that, and I'm not saying that I 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: agree with a fourth round pick either. I think that 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: what they were thinking about was the compository picks that 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: they do get from Tyler, Battish, Dorrance, fourth n Smith. Yeah, 139 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: four fifths, I think so. I think that's something that 140 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 4: they were thinking about. Again, I don't necessarily agree with 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: the fourth round pick either, but I mean, you look 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: at what something that I kind of looked at it, 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: even though it's not a much film on him, granted, 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: but at something that I also notices that you can 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: also kind of use him in the deep ball game 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: as well. He's got some speed, which is something that 147 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: you expected Turpin to be. He's kind of like a 148 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: mix of like Terp Tolbert because of the size and 149 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of different guys. So who does this put 150 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: on alert? Though when you think about the receivers that 151 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: who really haven't stepped. 152 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: Up here should question. He also he can play in 153 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: the backfield a little bit. 154 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 8: I think he's capable of doing it. You can see 155 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 8: him do it much here in Carolina. Yeah, he definitely 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 8: is is capable of doing things like that. He did 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 8: a little bit of it in college. But to answer 158 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 8: your question, I don't believe anyone's on the chopping block. 159 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 8: I think that this is, to Christy's point, something to 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 8: a gentleman to add to this roster for possibly next year. 161 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 6: It's an opportunity, just like Trey Lance, to get. 162 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 8: A guy that they were high on, that they saw 163 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 8: an opportunity to get out of a situation that they. 164 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 6: Deem his bad and to you know, get him here 165 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: on this roster. I don't think that. 166 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 8: I don't think it puts anyone on the chopping block, 167 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 8: because quite honestly, what's going on with this coaching staff 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 8: and you not knowing who's going to be here next 169 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 8: or not, maybe everybody's on the chopping exactly. So I 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 8: think this was a scout scout's decision front office, like, yeah, 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 8: let's just go get the kid. I don't think it 172 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 8: has any bearing on where you are right now, I 173 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 8: think to your point. 174 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 7: And I also think that it's not I think it's 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 7: viewed by media and skeptical fans that today's the trade 176 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 7: deadline and Jerry's going to do something just for the 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 7: sake of doing it. 178 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 6: And I guess that's why what it feels like. 179 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 7: I know that's what it feels like. But but what 180 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 7: we're talking about with a guy further you know that 181 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 7: you can have in house and has potential and you 182 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 7: liked him before. I think this isn't just some kind 183 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 7: of desperate should move and Jerry trying to appease, you know, 184 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 7: throw throw meat to the you know, to the lions. 185 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 7: It's not like that. It's it's we think that. 186 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 5: This guy can develop them better than Carolina. 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and and the fact I know that some people 188 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 7: are like, why are they bemoaning a fourth round pick? 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 7: Who cares? The Cowboys have had success with fourth round picks, 190 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott, Jake Ferguson, the Tony Pollards of the world. Yeah, 191 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 7: absolutely absolutely. 192 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: Do you think something that Mike McCarthy had said yesterday 193 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: is that it's not necessarily based off the position of need. 194 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 4: They just want to get better. That's something that they 195 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: kind of are focusing on. Do you feel like this 196 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: team got better today? 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 7: That's for immediate, for immediate for the next few weeks. 198 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 7: Before you, I don't think before you, before you fall. 199 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 5: I think he'll probably play. You think so, Yeah, I 200 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know. 201 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 8: Well, I mean a lot of we've seen and then 202 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 8: we've seen the other players that have been traded to 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 8: play this. 204 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're you know, it would be a limited package. 205 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 7: You're not gonna ad three. You probably would have a 206 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 7: couple of personnel groupings where you feel confident that he's 207 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 7: there's a few things that you know that you're not 208 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 7: going to throw the whole playbook at him. But I 209 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised if if he plays too He determined. 210 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: To get it. Yeah, but you did you get better. 211 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 7: I don't know if you got better in the next 212 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: few weeks that in this really tough stretch that you 213 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 7: stay in contention, right thanks to this move. And then 214 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 7: the guys that you shed today with Andrew Booth and 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 7: Jordan Phillips, you were getting nothing out of him because 216 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 7: Andrew Booth was inactive the past few weeks. Heck, they 217 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 7: elevated Josh Butler from the practice squad on Saturday and 218 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 7: to play in Atlanta in favor of Andrew Booth, who 219 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 7: was already on the fifty three men roster and has 220 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 7: been inactive. 221 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: And then Jordan. 222 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 7: Phillips, who you made the trade back in August to 223 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 7: get him from the Giants and he only played, Yeah, 224 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 7: he only played what thirty snaps thirty thirty four snaps 225 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 7: this year and has been inactive I know, you know, 226 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 7: the wrist injury. 227 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: But disappointment though. Yeah. 228 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 7: The thing about that is when you trade for a 229 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 7: veteran player and he's on the fifty three man roster 230 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 7: on week in week one, then you pay his space 231 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 7: salary for the whole year. So you paid one point 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 7: two million dollars for thirty four snaps and you didn't 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 7: get your money out of that. 234 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 6: You did not who replaces? I mean, I know that 235 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: he hasn't really been productive. Jordan Phillips. 236 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 7: Same since week two, Yeah you know, I mean yeah, 237 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 7: I mean Lynvall's been getting you know, I mean he 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 7: rotates in so yeah. 239 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 6: All right, Well why do they do this to stop? 240 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: Are still staying with the wide receiver position. Let's go 241 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: around and evaluate the wide receiver room so far through 242 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: the first nine weeks, technically going into the tenth week 243 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: of the season. Let's talk about Jaalen Tolbert. What have 244 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: you seen from him? What do you dislike? What more 245 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: do you need from him? And I'm gonna just lock 246 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: that up whoever wants to catch it. 247 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 7: More opportunities, absolutely, I mean, I think a lot of 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 7: people are upset about the lack of production from Jalen 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 7: Tolbert and some of the things that are going on. 250 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 8: But it's like, there are so many other things going 251 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 8: on with this offense right now. 252 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 6: I don't think that he's. 253 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 8: I don't think it's I don't I can't fairly evaluate 254 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 8: him right now. 255 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 4: But with the opportunities he has had, do you feel 256 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: like he's taken advantage of them. He's done something with him. 257 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 8: I mean from the receptions he's had with Dak Prescott 258 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 8: and some of the things he's done in scramble drill, 259 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 8: some of the plays he's made. Yeah, I mean, I 260 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 8: just don't know how much improvement we expect to see 261 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 8: with what is going on with this offense right now. 262 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 263 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 9: I mean, I think he's stepped up the season, especially 264 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 9: in the Pittsburgh game, in times where he has had 265 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 9: the opportunity. But I don't think there's times where we 266 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: see him opening the flat and you know he's sitting there. 267 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 9: Think there could be opportunities and more targets this way, 268 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 9: and he hasn't maybe shown exactly what. 269 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: We need yet. But I mean, I'm not completely down 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 5: on Jalen. 271 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, he's not. 272 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 8: The thing about him too, though, is that you know, 273 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 8: Jalen Tolbert has never been he's been a good route runner, 274 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 8: He's never been a big separator, and I think we're 275 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 8: seeing some of that with within the scheme, but also 276 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 8: too just with how defenses are playing you. It's this 277 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 8: whole wide receiver corps unless you're CD Lamb depending on 278 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 8: where they line them up at and the only reason 279 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 8: why they're he's able to get the ball the way 280 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 8: that he is is because they can manipulate putting him 281 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 8: in the slot, put them on the outside. 282 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 6: And finding mismatches. 283 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 8: But for everyone else, it's kind of like, you know, 284 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 8: getting where you fit in unless you're you know, overloading Jake. 285 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: Ferguson to start the game this past week. You know, 286 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 6: it's their one dimensional. 287 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, so how do we evaluate this passing offense fairly 288 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 8: right now? 289 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 6: You know? 290 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 291 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 7: Because because if when you say Jalen Brooks, I think 292 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 7: we're going to say the same thing, creating separation with all. 293 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 8: Of them, and then the times that he has had 294 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 8: the opportunity to step up, I mean, I thought he thought. 295 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 6: Jalen Brooks made a heck of a grab last week. 296 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: He's had a couple of grabs like that, you know, 297 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 8: through the season, and I will say specifically for him, 298 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 8: and it has to be whole hard because he's cold 299 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 8: at the time, he's not out there and then they're like, 300 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 8: go out there, we need you on. 301 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 6: A third down, Like what is going on here? So 302 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 6: I mean I mean, in fairness, I just don't know 303 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: how to be fair with evaluating it. What about Covante Turpin. Hmmm, 304 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: we know. 305 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 7: Can you please share? Nicole wet Kvante, I know you're 306 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 7: asking about wide receiver. There was some gold last night 307 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 7: from Cavante Turpin on the Cowboys Hour, and it had 308 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 7: more to do with punt returns. But I think it's 309 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 7: important to see the ball as well, not only on 310 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 7: punt and kickoff returns, but when it's thrown your directions. 311 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 7: So what's the word on that. 312 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were asking him about like, you know, 313 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: he had mentioned that he feels like his vision has 314 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: improved as far as being returner, and I was like, okay, well, 315 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: what do you feel like has gone into your vision improving? 316 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: He goes, oh, I can see now. What Me and 317 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: Brad looking at each other like you can see now? 318 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: What do you mean you couldn't see? And he was 319 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: like yeah, like this is my first year wearing contacts. 320 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: There we go, Dude, you was out there just playing blind. 321 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, it was blurry. 322 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: I just have to rely on my instincts. 323 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: What that means crazy work, crazy work? 324 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: I was. 325 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: I was impressed. 326 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 7: I remember my first year on the sideline, you know, 327 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 7: back in ninety nine. I was shocked that so many 328 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 7: guys were contacts on the field, and you know a 329 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 7: lot of them ape men and. 330 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: All of them. 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 7: But anyway, and now, actually one of my favorite stories 332 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 7: is EMMITTT. Smith comes over to the sideline. It's it's 333 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 7: during a game, and I'd seen it before where guys 334 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 7: had had contacts pop out, and so people are looking 335 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 7: down on the field like, Okay, we got to find 336 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 7: the contact. And it's really funny when you had the 337 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 7: big guy, you're like their their hands taped up, and 338 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 7: so you really have to trust the athletic trainer when 339 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: they're the ones put in the contact in for the guys. 340 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 7: So anyway, Emmett, everyone's around Emmett looking around on the ground. 341 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, he must have had a contact pop out. 342 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 7: I didn't realize that Emmett wore contacts. He didn't, he doesn't. 343 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 7: But his ear his diamond earstud had popped out, and 344 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: everyone's looking on the field for his diamond earstud. 345 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: They found it. I was hoping. 346 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 7: I was hoping that he'd have to run deck on 347 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 7: the field and everyone would run out there and maybe 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 7: I'd find a diamond. 349 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 6: But anyway, maybe I like that story. 350 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: But no, going back to the convo. What do you 351 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: all think about Cavante Turpin. Do you feel like he 352 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: has took a step forward at that wide receiver room, 353 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: he's getting more opportunities. 354 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. Even Dak said that he calls them their 355 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: secret weapon. 356 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 9: So there's times where I think they really can rely 357 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 9: on him, and I think he's his confidence is built 358 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 9: as well. 359 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was going into the bye week, right where 360 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 7: Dak said, yeah, the secret weapon. I think there are 361 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 7: a couple of times where he had an opportunity to 362 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 7: make a huge play. I'm thinking of the one down 363 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 7: the sideline and where where it went through the hands 364 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: and he wasn't able to secure it. So I don't 365 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 7: know if he talked about those plays in particular last night, Nicole, 366 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 7: but I think that there there there there been all No, 367 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 7: there have been a couple of plays left out on 368 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 7: the field that are tough. I mean they're tough plays. 369 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 7: I'm not saying they're easy plays and they're not drops, 370 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 7: but it's like, man, there were a couple of times 371 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 7: it's like godly, it was just oh so close. 372 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 9: And didn't And Brady will say it's because of his size, 373 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 9: but I don't. 374 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: I don't think that's it. 375 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's because of 376 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 8: his size, but I will say, what's Cavante turpin? 377 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 6: Uh? 378 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 8: He played, He did some receiver things when he was 379 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 8: at TCU, but he didn't do as much when he 380 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 8: was there, and so you know, coming into the NFL, 381 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 8: he is essentially kind of learning receiver asque things. And 382 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 8: so with me with him, it's I've been focusing on 383 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 8: his calmness, like how he because when you're that fast, 384 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 8: it is hard to play under control, like I know 385 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 8: a lot of guys. 386 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 6: We see a lot of guys that are fast, but 387 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 6: not football fast. 388 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 8: To be football fast and play under control, and to 389 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 8: go in and out of your routes, to be smoothing 390 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 8: your releases, all those things. The rap running from him 391 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 8: has improved. It is what he does at the catch 392 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 8: point and things like that, how he catches hand catching, 393 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 8: those things that. 394 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 6: He's still working on. So I do think that he has. 395 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 8: Improved as far as even there was one game where 396 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 8: he's even getting a feel for how to sit in 397 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 8: zones now and stuff like that. But I'm looking for 398 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: him to just be better at again. And some people 399 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 8: will say it's because of the size and stuff like that. 400 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 8: I say, it's just because of the technique and just 401 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 8: the mechanics of being a receiver and learning how to 402 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 8: be a receiver between he's going it better. Yeah, it's 403 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 8: the hand catching and to not catching with his body 404 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 8: and stuff like that. And I also understand though that 405 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 8: he does kind of shield himself and Brandon Cooks does 406 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 8: this as well, where they shield himself and when you're 407 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 8: a smaller framed guy, it's normal to do that. It's 408 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 8: not easy to do to learn how to you know, 409 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 8: secure yourself but also catch with your hands and hold 410 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 8: onto the football. 411 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: He did talk about that yesterday. He feels like his 412 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: route running hasn't been the best, but he feels like 413 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 4: it's improving. And someone who's been helping him with that 414 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: is Ceedee Lamb. He's also been helping him with like 415 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 4: learning how to read defenses a lot better. So yeah, 416 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: that like the little nugget as well. All right, ceedee lamb. 417 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: What y'all like from him? Of course we see that 418 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: the chemistry from him and Dak didn't start clicking until 419 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: about two games ago. 420 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: But no, yeah, that's that's my main things, my main take. 421 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: Well, and that's What's interesting because it wasn't clicking the 422 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 7: first several weeks, and yet if you look at the stats, 423 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 7: it looks like he was ahead of what he was 424 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 7: at this point in twenty twenty three. And I was 425 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 7: surprised by that because I thought, man, this is going 426 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 7: to be And obviously it was coming out of the 427 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 7: by last week when they changed a lot of last 428 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 7: year when they changed a lot of things with the 429 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 7: offense where he and Dak really took off. But I 430 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 7: was surprised to see that his numbers so far this 431 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 7: year exceed what they were the previous year. 432 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: It's because they've been playing from behind and in those maids. Yes, 433 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: he's been having to rely on CD Lamb to bill 434 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 4: him out of those situations. So all right, tied in evaluation, 435 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: let's go with Luke school Maker. 436 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I don't know what he's done to 437 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 7: anchor people. No, he had two snaps at San Francisco 438 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 7: and he had one offensive snap in Atlanta, and he's 439 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 7: still playing special teams. We know he had that holding 440 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 7: penalty on the long kickoff return renigated along over the 441 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 7: last two weeks. Yeah, and so they're using Brevin span 442 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 7: for the rookie in favor of schoon Makers. So yeah, 443 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 7: not not good. 444 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 10: Yeah. 445 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 9: And Seawanheimer said he said he's been too inconsistent to 446 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 9: see the field consistently. 447 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that he needs no confidence. 448 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 10: Yeah. 449 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 7: And that's the thing that we were talking about last 450 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 7: year and coming into this year with confidence that you know, 451 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 7: he didn't get the training camp last year or the 452 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 7: off season. You go into your rookie season and even 453 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 7: though he played all the games, he didn't have the 454 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: work going into it. So it was almost, I won't say, 455 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 7: an eye incomplete for his rookie season. And then he 456 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 7: had I think it was the shoulder of this offseason 457 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 7: and this part of the off season work. But yeah, 458 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 7: I mean, very very disappointing for Luke Schoonmaker, especially when 459 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 7: he's such a high pick and it's not paying off. 460 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: I don't know what to say. 461 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 8: I mean, I feel well, I don't know what to 462 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 8: say because I when players come in and they're drafted 463 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 8: in and stuff, I know people are hard on them 464 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 8: typically with their evaluations. I always give guys a chance 465 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 8: to show me. He hasn't shown me much of anything. 466 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 8: And the saddest part about it, specifically is that this 467 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 8: guy you know, even though we knew, like the receiving 468 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 8: aspect of it was something that he didn't really get 469 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 8: to do much in Michigan because of how they. 470 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 5: Were able to run the ball. 471 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was looking at him as a blocker and 472 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 8: you can't even count on him for that right now. 473 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 8: And that ties into you know, when you talk about 474 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 8: the tight ends, you gotta talk about the run game 475 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 8: as well. Is that you haven't gotten good enough blocking 476 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 8: on the outside from them. That's why Hunter Lipkey is 477 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 8: out there and I at this point, with what's happening 478 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 8: with Schoonmaker, just give those snaps. I would give those 479 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 8: snaps to Lipkey as a time, I agree, I would 480 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 8: not at this point. Jay Ferguson does need some support 481 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 8: in that room and if no one else is gonna 482 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 8: give it to him consistently. I do like some of 483 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 8: the things I have seen them try with brevenspan for 484 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 8: just trying him in the red zone and things like that. 485 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 8: He also too, came from a program. 486 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 6: Heavy, heavy, heavy run. 487 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 8: He didn't get the opportunity to be a receiver like that, 488 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 8: but with his frame it could be helpful in the 489 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 8: red zone. But other than that, girl like this tight 490 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 8: end room has disappointed the crap out of me because 491 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 8: it's not often on a team, like a tight end 492 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 8: two position on most NFL teams is. 493 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 6: A big deal. 494 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 8: It's a big deal because if you go if you're 495 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 8: gonna run the ball, if you're gonna go into formation 496 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 8: is twenty one to twelve, these type of things. 497 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 6: Having that second tight end. 498 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 8: On the field is helpful and the Cowboys cannot they 499 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 8: can do it. It's not threatening unless it's Jake Ferguson, 500 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 8: and that's a prized I mean, it takes so much 501 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 8: out of your playbook. Not having another tight end that's 502 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 8: a receiving threats even a little bit that or can 503 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 8: block on the outside, and it puts a lot of 504 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 8: pressure on Jake Ferguson. 505 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 6: So I'm this whole tight in room has quite frankly 506 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 6: ticked me off. Let me ask you something. 507 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry because you mentioned Hunter Lokey should be getting 508 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: more tight ends, that's which he has been. Do you 509 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: feel like it's too late for Luke schoon Maker to 510 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: try to solidify himself that he can be the tight 511 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 4: end number two or do you feel like it's Hunter 512 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: Lipkey should be the guy. 513 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 7: Well, Lipkey just so everyone knows. I mean, looky, you know, 514 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 7: listed as full back or running back. But what he 515 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: does is he, in addition to his time in the 516 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 7: running back meeting rooms, which he does, he's not missing 517 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 7: running back meetings, but he's doing extra work also sitting 518 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: in the tight end meetings on Wednesdays and then on 519 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 7: Saturday mornings. So Lipkey is doing double duty smart player, 520 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 7: smart player, smart smart player and obviously a committed player 521 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 7: committed with that extra time. I think the thing with 522 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 7: scoon Maker is especially it's the physical it's the blocking, right. 523 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 7: You don't get to practice. I mean, you practice the 524 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: fundamentals and you go through the plays and walk throughs, 525 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 7: but you don't get to do the physical things during 526 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 7: the week. You only get fourteen padded practices in an 527 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: eighteen week season. 528 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: And even when. 529 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 7: It's a padded practice, you're not hitting each other, it's 530 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 7: not contact. So he's going to have to prove in 531 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 7: practice that he can do it and be consistent. And 532 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 7: yet you don't really. 533 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 5: Get to chance. 534 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 7: So I won't say catch twenty two, but yeah, it's 535 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 7: going to be tough for him to re earn that 536 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 7: trust you got anything. 537 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 9: The only thing I noticed is I think that with 538 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 9: his size, we thought he'd be more physical to be 539 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 9: able to get open. We haven't really seen that as well, 540 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 9: because I think I thought that he would be able 541 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 9: to create that and be that Kittle type or Kelsey 542 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 9: Kelsey younger Kelsey, you know, being able to with his size, 543 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 9: and I haven't seen that yet. 544 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 5: Again, I haven't seen him enough, but that's what I 545 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 5: was hoping. 546 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: I think we have seen him enough. 547 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I'm not saying. And again, like one thing 548 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 8: about Schoolmaker is. 549 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 5: Yes, get them thinking more of the season. 550 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was her last season. 551 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe yeh, wanting to see 552 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: a little bit more because that's. 553 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 6: What I'm saying, Like two years of film is enough 554 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 6: for me. Yeah, And I mean this this. 555 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 8: Scheme with Mike McCarthy, it does involve your tight ends. 556 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 8: Like it took them a little while last year to 557 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 8: figure out Jake first. I think because he is unique 558 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 8: because of his receiver as qualities, the yack ability and stuff. 559 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 8: I do think you have to figure out things that 560 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 8: work for him. But as far as Schoonmaker, most of 561 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy's systems are. 562 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 6: Tight ends are involved. 563 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 8: So this is like I'm telling you, y'all, like this 564 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 8: is a prime opportunity for one of these young guys, 565 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 8: and you just waiting. We've been waiting since camp for 566 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 8: someone to take it, and no one. 567 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 6: No one has So I'm. 568 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 7: Yeah and fit and Phil and John John Phillips with 569 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: the you know, being on ir and everything. 570 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: Which is disappointing. Because Lunda does a great job with 571 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 6: these guys. 572 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna go ahead and take our first break because he 573 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: went along. 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They didn't improve a lot. 622 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that, but when in terms of 623 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 4: big picture, I mean they went from averaging or allowing 624 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: an average of four hundred sixty two yards they only 625 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: gave up three hundred ten again, and not a number 626 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: you want to see. As far as getting pressure. You 627 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: saw a little bit of opportunities there where they took 628 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: advantage and they run the run game certainly took a 629 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: step forward. Where would you say they took the most? 630 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 5: I guess well, I like seeing that. 631 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 9: Then the first time I think this Cowboys this season, 632 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 9: they actually didn't allow any points on the opening drive, right, 633 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 9: So that was yeah, that was nice to see you finally. Yeah, 634 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 9: and just to see I mean, I don't know about y'all. 635 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 9: I got really excited seeing Carl Lawson, you know, off 636 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 9: the edge and just. 637 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 5: Getting two sacks. I was like, yeah, someone's stepping up. 638 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: We talked about this last week. 639 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 9: So I don't know if he continues to do that, 640 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 9: but it shows some promise. I feel like the guys 641 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 9: got all. You saw them getting jacked up Donovan Wilson. 642 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 9: They're doing the bowl and ballpin thing, and they just 643 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 9: seem like I saw a little bit more of camaraderie 644 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 9: and some something clicked there. 645 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if it carries on, but I saw something. 646 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: It was better. 647 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 7: But we're doing No, it was much better, positive, but 648 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: I saw something. No, there were there were there were positives. 649 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's still not the performance. 650 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 7: No, But I know you're asking about the positives. But 651 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 7: when Mike Zimmer on Monday says that there are fifteen 652 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 7: missed tackles. Yeah, and let's not all blame it on 653 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 7: Kayln Carson and a bad shoulder. But yeah, I'm not 654 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 7: trying to jump out here, but that's what I'm saying. 655 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: I was trying to try to be positive there. 656 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: I was trying to be very positive. 657 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: Christy, yeah, and and Demo, No, there were positives. But yes, 658 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 7: the pass rush was better. The pass rush was better. 659 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 5: Sorry, and here it comes out here we go. Did 660 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: you have anything anything positive? 661 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to start you up here and then then 662 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 4: just slowly. 663 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: And then I used to take me to reality. 664 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 6: They forced the turnover. 665 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: I know, that's what we're excited these things. 666 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: They forced the turnover, sister. I think individually there were 667 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 6: some good things that we saw. Absolutely. 668 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 8: I thought Mike Zimmer did some things early in that 669 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 8: game just to try to bring pressure in some unique 670 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 8: ways to kind of slip up their offensive line and 671 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 8: stuff like that. But it, I mean, to your point, 672 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 8: I mean, three ten is I think three hundred is 673 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 8: kind of like where you want to keep it. 674 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 6: So three ten is not. 675 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 8: Bad to to hold bijon to what they did. I mean, 676 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 8: there was a to Bonnie Jill's point, there was an energy, 677 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 8: and these guys did play with energy. Their offense just 678 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 8: left them out to drive. I thought the defense did 679 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 8: specifically in that first half to they did more than 680 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 8: enough to put the offense in a position to be 681 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 8: able to score and to do some things Dallas could 682 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: have taken advantage. 683 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: Dallas could have made that game a two possession game 684 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 6: going into the half. 685 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 8: So as far as the defense goes, Zimmer is working with, 686 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 8: he's working with having a lot of pieces not there, 687 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 8: and they still were able to find some success. 688 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 6: I will say, even with what's. 689 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 8: Going on the offensive side of the ball and all 690 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 8: the injuries, if Carl Lawson is going to play better 691 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 8: football like that, if also Diggi Zuo was going to 692 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 8: play football like that, if the Marion Overstow is going 693 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 8: to play football like that, I do think that that 694 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 8: gives your front seven a boost if you are going 695 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 8: to get a Michael Parsons back at some pome. So, yeah, 696 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 8: there were some positives to take from this game, and 697 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 8: I think they're mostly on the defensive side. 698 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 7: And I did think of a positive. I mentioned it yesterday. 699 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 7: Now I'm still upset from the fifteen miss tackles, but 700 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 7: we did mention it yesterday. The defense got two three 701 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 7: and ounce in the fourth quarter and set up the 702 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 7: offense to have a game winning drive and that one 703 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 7: offense didn't get it. 704 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: So two three that's all you get. 705 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 7: And guess what They did the same thing against San Francisco, Yes, 706 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 7: and gave the Cowboys offensive chance to win the game 707 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 7: at the end in the fourth quarter. So as bad 708 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 7: as the third quarter has been, you mentioned it was 709 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 7: a good first half for the defense in Atlanta, but 710 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 7: that's all you can ask of your defense is to 711 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: give your offense a chance to win, and they stood 712 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 7: up when it mattered in the fourth quarter. 713 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: Do you feel like this is at least it's something 714 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: to build off of. Absolutely, absolutely, yes, yes, I. 715 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 8: Mean specifically with say specifically with Carl Last and I mean, 716 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 8: like Matthews, the left tackle for Atlanta isn't nobody a snuffet. 717 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 8: I mean, he has a few issues and stuff like that, 718 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 8: but he is considered one of the better tackles in 719 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 8: the NFL. And he took him to church a couple 720 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 8: of times. Out there and seeing him, you know, maybe 721 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 8: getting his legs under him to this point and showing 722 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 8: off some of the explosiveness was helpful. But yeah, I 723 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 8: mean some of the uses of Demarvion Overshown. 724 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 6: I've seen him. 725 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 8: He's drawing double teams out here in these streets. I mean, 726 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 8: there's some some things that you can take from this. 727 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 8: And I do think if you were to get a 728 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 8: Mica back some of you do have a few rushers 729 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 8: on this on this defensive line that may be. 730 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 6: Able to cost some a disruption moving forward. 731 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 4: I think Demarvin Overshown it's just special because he's gonna 732 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: play regardless, and that's how he's been all year long. 733 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: So I love to see him perform like that, though 734 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: he did on Sunday. But now let's go to the negatives. 735 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 5: All right. 736 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: We talked about the miscommunication and the secondary h specifically 737 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: that fourth and three play was the moony touchdown wide open. 738 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: How do you fix miscommunications issues like that? 739 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: But that was the one where Trayvon got cut, so 740 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 7: that that's also a thing where when you're in the 741 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 7: secondary linebackers too, but you can't all be in a 742 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 7: straight line horizontally across the field. You know, you kind 743 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 7: of you stagger and they weren't staggered, and so when 744 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 7: Trayvon's going across he gets caught up and the other 745 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 7: so and also went into it instead of going over 746 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 7: the top. But it had to do with where they 747 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 7: started with it with the alignment. So I'm sure that 748 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 7: it's very frustrating because these are things that are correctable, 749 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 7: just like mistackles, right. 750 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 8: And that's awareness too, Yeah, like I would expect You're right, Christie, 751 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 8: but I would expect. 752 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 6: More awareness from a Trayvon Diggs there. 753 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 4: Well, I thought I was supposed to be on Jordan 754 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: Lewis if I'm not mispaking to communicate that right, Oh 755 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 4: to him. 756 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 6: To stag, to stagger. They big boys and the big 757 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 6: boys and girls like they they shouldn't. I mean, so 758 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 6: I get, like, I get what you're saying. 759 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 8: And that's why Mike Zimmer said, ask them they was 760 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 8: a man coverage. 761 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 6: You're in man coverage. 762 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, So, I mean, as as far as the rest 763 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 8: of the defense and you're talking about the communication issues, 764 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 8: I think that a lot of this has to do 765 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 8: and I'm gonna say this, I've said it before. Your 766 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 8: safeties are doing things they have never done before. This 767 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 8: is a new scheme, Like they're playing more too high 768 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 8: than I've seen. Donovan Wilson or MALIEK. Cooker play and 769 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 8: they dann Career to this point. I'm lying Malie Cooker 770 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 8: plays and he played too high when but here in Dallas, 771 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 8: this is some of this stuff is different. So I 772 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 8: do think some of the space and the communication where 773 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 8: you need to be and stuff is getting mixed in 774 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 8: the in the shuffle. But credit to Atlanta, they did 775 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 8: their job. Like that's a lot of it is some 776 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 8: of their emotions, their shifts and stuff. That's why you 777 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 8: see guys miscommunicating. That's why you see guys running into 778 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 8: each other. That is also too good play calling on 779 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 8: the other side, and your defense has to be able 780 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 8: to hole serve. 781 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 5: Order to her next break. 782 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 4: We only got a few minutes left, ladies, so hat 783 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 4: to let us go? 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Don't miss out on the 830 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 9: holiday magic. 831 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: You all ready here Christmas? 832 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 6: Oh, I got the lights pretty down here. 833 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: I saw them already put up the tree. 834 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 7: I said, yeah that I love the Christmas shure. 835 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 5: They do a great Thanksgiving it screwed. 836 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 6: They just love it. I don't know who's gipping who. 837 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 8: I don't know who's skipping Thanksgiving because but I'm right there. 838 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 6: List can't see Christmas. I don't even care what y'all 839 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 6: talking about. Oh Foodiday, Yeah. 840 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 10: I like. 841 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: I like family time and it's not about giving anything. 842 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 6: It's all just like full sucker for family time. 843 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 4: You don't spend of family time for Christmas Christmas. 844 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 6: So I just love Thanksgiving. But I like all the 845 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 6: lights Christmas. I want to go see the lights this year. 846 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun, all. 847 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 6: Right, real fast. 848 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 4: There's no Christmas here for this Dallas Cowboys because they're 849 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: banged up. 850 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 5: We know the injuries. 851 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: Dron Bland don't know the status there. Well, we do 852 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 4: know the status there. We're hoping he's back soon. Michael 853 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: Parsons still banged up, DeMarcus Lawrence still banged up. We 854 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: got Ceedee Lamb now looking to play on Sunday. We'll 855 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 4: see Dak Prescott on IR. I mean, the list goes on, 856 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 4: but then you look at this Philadelphia. 857 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 5: Who's injured. 858 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 4: We go Barkley questionable, AJ Brown questionable, Dallas Goddard questionable. 859 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 4: That's just the offense. 860 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 7: So and they're playing without their left tackle, Jordan Mylotta. 861 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 7: He's he's been on injured reserve and missed a few 862 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 7: games now, So. 863 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 4: Key pieces, yeah, yeah, key pieces there. All right, Christy, 864 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna hand it over to you, because who has 865 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: the advantage now when you talk about two teams that 866 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 4: are bang the. 867 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 7: Hell, well, it's still the Eagles because of their running 868 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 7: rushing attack and Squan It was actually that fantastic play 869 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 7: where he jumped backwards over the guy is amazing. But 870 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 7: he went over to the sideline after that, And now, 871 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 7: I mean he came back in the game and finished 872 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 7: with a just a fantastic game and catching the catch 873 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 7: that he made even before that backwards leap was a 874 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 7: fantastic touchdown catch. But you know, him being questionable, I 875 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 7: can't imagine that he's going to miss the game Sunday. 876 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 7: But and with AJ Brown without him, that's that's pretty tough. 877 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 7: But I think Philly still has the yeah knee, he anything, 878 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 7: But as to whether he's going to be able to 879 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 7: play Sunday is the question. Yeah. So, but when you're 880 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 7: when you're down possibly your top wide receiver in Brown, 881 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 7: you're without your top tied end and Goddard and Calcutara. 882 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 7: He's played very well for them in place at Goddard. 883 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 7: But if Saquon Barkley is banged up a little bit 884 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 7: or limited at all, I think the bigger thing is 885 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 7: people overlook my latta and he is one of the 886 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 7: better tackles in the league, and so that can help 887 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 7: with the Cowboys pass rush. But I'm still concerned about 888 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 7: stopping that run and Jalen hurts. You know, he's still 889 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 7: still such a threat right running. 890 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 5: The running the ball. 891 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 12: Yeah. 892 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 9: I mean, but we look at like the forty nine ers, 893 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 9: they were really banged up, and I feel like we 894 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 9: didn't capitalize on that. So I don't know if it 895 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 9: really matters that the team is banged up or not, 896 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 9: because I feel like we have so many missing pieces 897 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 9: right now. 898 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 5: Sorry, you show it's that. 899 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 8: Bad that I was gonna say, Okay, yeah, I'm just 900 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 8: gonna say it don't matter. I will say both of 901 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 8: these teams don't really like each other like this, so 902 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 8: we probably will see a competitive game regardless. 903 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a divisional. 904 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 5: Game, but we can win this game. 905 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: I think it's doable. 906 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 5: It's doable. Here's the thing about Rush may change something up. 907 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. 908 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 7: Let's see the Eagles scored in the first quarter and 909 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 7: the win over jackson Again, it's the first it's the 910 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 7: first time they've scored in the first quarter this year. 911 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they're doing that thing again where they pick, 912 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 8: they pick a half to score. 913 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 6: And we do this almost every other year. 914 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 8: They're like one year, they're really good in the first terrible, 915 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 8: they flip flop. 916 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 7: So they absolutely dominated Jacksonville in the first half. Jacksonville 917 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 7: only had like thirty four yards on offense in the 918 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 7: first half. And then in the second half. They absolutely 919 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 7: let Jacksonville in that game. They should have buried and 920 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 7: a couple of turnovers and specialties. 921 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 6: Are you're saying letting. 922 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 8: Go of a lead would stop with the with the 923 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 8: elsie over there a lead against Jacksonville. 924 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 6: That sounds that sounds so familiar. 925 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 8: I feel like I've experienced the Cowboys giving up a 926 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 8: lead against Jacksonville out of nowhere. 927 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm sick of you. 928 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 5: All Right. 929 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 4: On that note, we're back here tomorrow with more Girls 930 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 4: Talkboys Talk, presented by in visit Line. At four pm tomorrow, 931 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: We'll see Alden. 932 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 933 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.