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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, or should I say ho ho ho?

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Speaker 1: It's me Matt Rogers And in the words of another

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Speaker 1: Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour,

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Speaker 1: Matt Rogers Christmas in December. Yes, it's time to remember

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Speaker 1: when Christmas is. I'm hitting the road all of December

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Speaker 1: with Henrykoperski and the whole band performing my album Have

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Speaker 1: You Heard Of Christmas, along with a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: little surprises. So, if you're in La San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: d C. New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or yes, Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 1: I want to see your gorgeous ass. Go to Matt

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Speaker 1: rogersofficial dot com or head to my Instagram at Matt

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Speaker 1: Rogers though and hit the link in my bio. Until then,

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Speaker 1: stream the album, get your look together, and get ready

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Speaker 1: to deck the damn halls at a venue near you

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Speaker 1: Christmas in December. You in my heart XO XO, Santa Boy,

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Speaker 1: look mare, oh I see you a look over there

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Speaker 1: is that in the culture, Yes, lost cult Dang dong

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Speaker 1: lost calling. So I bet you're wondering why I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: no sleeves in December even well, peek behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: But I've decided that I want to break you and

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Speaker 1: the guests that I want to be the most wanted man.

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Speaker 2: Well, get ready, get ready, your face is going to

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Speaker 2: be in that frame for the entirety of the song.

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Speaker 1: All I want, oh, is that is that really your face?

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Speaker 2: So Lust and I were having a ball because it

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Speaker 2: was just my dumb little face in that gorgeous frame

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Speaker 2: during this amazing song most Wanted Man for the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the song, and I and we were I was

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Speaker 2: looking at myself and in the third person, staring at myself, going,

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Speaker 2: that's what I look like as an objects And do

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Speaker 2: not change the way you've done it.

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Speaker 1: She would never Our guess is so polite. I hugged.

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Speaker 2: I hug my guests on the way on the way in,

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Speaker 2: she's going to a back through mind leaving, she goes,

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Speaker 2: is this the thing where we're not allowed to talk

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Speaker 2: to each other before?

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Speaker 1: I'm toying with the idea of every time a new

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Speaker 1: guest comes into askl. Teresa Spall and I are just

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Speaker 1: on our phones like this, Hey, hey, you imagine I

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Speaker 2: One of the highlights of my year, Slash life was

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Speaker 2: singing with our guests on television on celluloid.

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Speaker 1: Well that's our guest is here to promote our single.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to miss a thing live from the

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Speaker 1: Cultural Awards. Just kidding. This is the This is a

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Speaker 1: major Grammy winning artist that we have a collab with

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Speaker 1: five by five. Motherfucker. Fucking proud of you, Proud of you, talking,

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Speaker 1: proud of you. How far you've come from nothing to everything.

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Speaker 1: You came from nothing when I met you. You were

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Speaker 1: in the dirt. You were in the dirt, you were

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Speaker 1: in the took me to the dirt. You took me

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Speaker 1: to the dirt. Where in our Mary Cosby, I'm Era

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Speaker 1: Era No. Our guest is obviously here.

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Speaker 2: She's promoting the Australian Asian legs of her amazing forever

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Speaker 2: Asian legs like you like me my Australian legs.

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Speaker 1: And she's born in Brisbane, an Asian. The last tour

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Speaker 1: technically May twenty six. Yeah, the Asia of America, which

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Speaker 1: is Vancouver. Is that geographically I think so? Or is

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Speaker 1: that more tonally? Tonally? I think there is.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a huge neighborhood in Vancouver called Richmond.

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Speaker 2: I believe she knows that has all of the Asians know,

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Speaker 2: as if all of our other guests haven't broken in

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Speaker 2: during this moment.

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Speaker 1: But that's how you know they're not for real. Forever's

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Speaker 1: a feeling.

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Speaker 2: The archives the bonus tracks, including a Gym Croachy cover.

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Speaker 1: The Gym Croache cover the Time in the Bottle cover

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Speaker 1: is one of one of the great covers. But that's

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Speaker 1: our guest is just like one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the great talents, one of the great talents, one of

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful people I've ever seen. Your crush, my crush.

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Speaker 1: I was so fucking proud of you when you shot

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Speaker 1: your shot. You came from nothing. When I met you.

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Speaker 1: You would have never spoken to a man, woman or more.

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Speaker 1: You never would have I.

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Speaker 2: Never well, I literally didn't speak to this person when

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Speaker 2: I first met them. And we've talked about this to

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Speaker 2: each other, but we need to talk about on the podcast. Okay, everyone,

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Speaker 2: please welcome into yourars.

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Speaker 3: Welcome doing everything not to talk and left. I don't

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Speaker 3: need to. I just want to watch. This is like

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Speaker 1: I mean, you are right there, this is a great scene,

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Speaker 1: but we are watching and talking with you. The object

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Speaker 1: of I know, what do you think? How am I doing?

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Speaker 1: it really got down to it and you and I

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Speaker 1: that you're otherwise spoke spoken for, But I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: I do think that Bowen could do more for you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I have nothing to add to that. I think

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Speaker 2: he's a kinsey what for? I would say four or five?

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Speaker 3: You can actually find out your number.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just I think it's just I think

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Speaker 1: forever it is a feeling. I think it's a feeling.

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Speaker 1: Kinsey is a feeling. We're so linked.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I how am I gonna keep up?

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Speaker 1: Kinsey is a feeling, might feeling? Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I think you were saying, mister Janelle, does that mean

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Speaker 2: eternity is ephemeral?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Okay, yeah, I feel like when you feel forever

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Speaker 3: it's momentary.

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Speaker 1: Oh beautiful, you said it?

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Speaker 3: Actually better, I don't know why I repeated it in.

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Speaker 1: Worse No, I wanted you to confirm it.

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Speaker 3: I'm confirmed.

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Speaker 1: That was the leading question though. Yeah, eternity is ephemeral.

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Speaker 2: a you question. Y'all were humanity's majors, right.

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Speaker 3: I dropped out of college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very clear to start hit the rope with your music.

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Speaker 3: I'm intimidated that you have a crush on me because

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Speaker 3: to think that I'm lame. That's the thing about having

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Speaker 3: which you find out something that crashes the whole.

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Speaker 1: No, what do you think is the thing about you

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Speaker 1: that we're going to find out that makes us go?

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Speaker 3: Early got them. I'll think about that.

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Speaker 1: Tell you, do you know yours? Sure?

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Speaker 2: This is the reason why I haven't been in a

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Speaker 3: You know, this intimate.

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Speaker 1: Into me. You see remember that Katy Perry song. It exists,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah anyway, Yeah, I've heard the farts are

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Speaker 1: our bit since college is that it's like an angry

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the distinction entails.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like this, like it's it does it?

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Speaker 1: It is? It's a very wide sound. It's also it's

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Speaker 1: really like this, you know what I mean? Yeah? Remember

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Speaker 1: remember the popular remember remember that? Yeah, that culture. Remember

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Speaker 1: did you remember guys white guys who were trying to

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Speaker 1: be other races were often doing like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like, was that culture? There were these

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Speaker 1: guys out here in Richmond in high school?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Sure I went to I went to like a

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Speaker 3: nerd high school, so I'm sure that was happening somebody.

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Speaker 3: It was Maggie L. Walker, Governor, School for Government and

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, where are you president?

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Speaker 3: By now, nobody who wants to be president is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, you ate that I'm going to say something.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something controversial.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were raising your hand to say something.

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Speaker 1: But when the thing and that one knows is that

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Speaker 1: he's always raising his hand. I'm always raising my hand

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Speaker 1: to speak. Okay, you're right. I So let's to know.

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Speaker 2: I talked about this a lot, and I think you

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Speaker 2: when I've talked about this, anyone who aspires to political

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Speaker 2: offices is sick in the head. I'm sorry. Anyone who

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Speaker 2: in that fucking head. No, in a different way, in

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Speaker 2: a more but nine way.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so beautiful. We'll cut this out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, first of all, I don't think it. I do

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Speaker 1: think that people who want who is this is going

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Speaker 1: to come out after all elections it's the last election ever. Well, hey, sorry,

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Speaker 1: but I will say, like, you can be an egomaniac

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Speaker 2: You're still an egomaniac at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: which is a neutral thing.

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Speaker 1: Politically minded. You can tell she went to high school

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Speaker 1: for government because she knows not Yeah, but what your

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Speaker 3: In high school? Well, you did to graduate, you to

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Speaker 3: take five government courses and you had to take minimum

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Speaker 3: I took French in Russian, I am not fluent in Russian,

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Speaker 1: You can you can speak a little French. Problem.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like going bowling, like sometimes I'm on

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Speaker 1: Right is yeah, and pool, oh, pool is yeah. But

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Speaker 1: when you're good at pool, when you're having a good

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Speaker 1: pool nights, sort of very powerful and very.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just in an ungendered way. I think being good

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Speaker 3: Yes, anybody who can make that happen. What is it?

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Speaker 3: What's it connected to in like our biology.

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Speaker 2: Like draping yourself over a surface, like it is like

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Speaker 2: in different ways that precision, precision and power I.

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Speaker 1: Think empower, coordination and power lighting power.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the lighting is used.

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Speaker 1: There is also the moment. Yeah, it's like oh, very

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Speaker 1: very over lucy. What's the moment when someone cracks cracks

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Speaker 1: sort of they sort of come up they've done it,

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Speaker 1: and then they go yeah, I mean like like yes,

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Speaker 3: Even alone, I think people that playpool alone are hotter

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Speaker 3: than people that bowl alone. But who are they hot

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Speaker 3: to themselves?

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Speaker 1: That's interesting having a moment.

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Speaker 3: Bowling alone is if you're hot in a forest alone?

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Speaker 3: Are you hot? Is that?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm asking, are you I think we should

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Speaker 2: all let's let's all go around okay and ask yourself this.

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Speaker 1: Are you hot to yourself? I don't think. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think, actually, yes, I'm hot to myself. And in

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Speaker 2: the quiet of my own space, I'm like, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna I'm gonna be vulnerable in the mirror, I'm a

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Speaker 3: No, I think no, I think a lot of I

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Speaker 3: think violence has a very important place in everyone's life.

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Speaker 1: That's the violence has a very important radical queer artist

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Speaker 1: Lucy Vakas champions violence and Miss Piggy I'm on Lost

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Speaker 1: Culture podcast.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, some people deserve it. Yeah, it's so true.

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Speaker 1: Well, every time Miss Piggy said hy yah, it was warranted.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was the thing that, like ye

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Speaker 1: was really important in the establishment of her is Like

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Speaker 1: she was not a violent woman. No, she was driven

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Speaker 1: to violent.

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Speaker 3: No. No, she has priorities which are her hair and

450
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Speaker 3: her shoes, and the violence is getting in the way

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Speaker 3: of these things. So it's like very much important to

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Speaker 3: her obviously if it's superseding her excellence in how she looks.

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Speaker 1: Wow, her number one thing which she wakes up in

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Speaker 1: the morning, Miss Piggie opens her eyes. Do her eyes

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Speaker 1: ever close? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she she does open her eyes and then

458
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Speaker 1: she thinks, how can I entertain the world? So anything

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Speaker 1: that's gonna come between her and her.

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Speaker 3: Purpose the cannon or is that you're feeling.

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Speaker 1: She famously wants to do a show. Oh yeah, she

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Speaker 1: doesn't do a show at the Vanity. She's at the vanity.

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Speaker 1: She's speaking her face, she's ready to go on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like common refrain

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Speaker 1: said around her is like almost time for places.

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Speaker 3: I do also feel like the high fem of it

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Speaker 3: all is like and and with Kermit, there's something just uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe Miss Piggy hasn't had her queer moment, but I'm like,

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Speaker 3: maybe she is.

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Speaker 2: It's already kind of there is a queer ring of

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Speaker 2: the romance there right, Like it's it's inner species it is.

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Speaker 3: Wait, it's pigs are queer.

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Speaker 1: If a pig was fucking a frog, that's queer moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think if you saw that.

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Speaker 3: We were going to like reading like Science Daily or something.

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Speaker 2: Until gay, I would love to find that there's very

478
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Speaker 2: smart animals.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have had a pig. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the big famous celebrity facts from the nineties.

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Speaker 1: George Clooney has a pig. Okay, sweet, are you gonna

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Speaker 1: visit the pig cafes in Japan when you're there?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know those exist, but yeah, now me

484
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Speaker 3: just text me recommendations. I'm starring everything on my map.

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Speaker 1: When are you going to be there?

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Speaker 3: February eighteenth, and then a whole week.

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Speaker 2: After you're gonna be there for sumo season. I think

488
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Speaker 2: for like the sumo I've never been. I want to

489
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Speaker 2: go so badly, we're going to just miss it.

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Speaker 1: I go out. You're going to be there before we're

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Speaker 1: there the second half of January. Fun it's Bowen's birthday trip.

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Speaker 1: Very excited, cute, cute kawaii even what don't give me

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Speaker 1: as already? Look what if I make my whole thing

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Speaker 1: Japan when I come back like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm ka, you wouldn't be going Stefani, you would

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Speaker 2: be like respectful?

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Speaker 1: Well not no, No, I wouldn't Just kidding. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine you imagine make a cultural appropriation announcement? I thought

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Speaker 1: you would do it back in the day.

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Speaker 3: That'd be better than what other people are doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: people are just embodying it.

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Speaker 1: No thoughts truly have you been there before? I'm very

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Speaker 1: excited And then and and and the group is going friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have some friends that are going to meet

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Speaker 3: us there. The whole band is saying, because we're getting

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Speaker 3: over there, so why.

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Speaker 1: Not why not new tour bus there?

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Speaker 3: Or one show? So it was multiple Well Australia is

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Speaker 3: all part of Lanewayfest, which is like a traveling festival,

510
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Speaker 3: so they I think they fly you from city to city.

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Speaker 3: What I really hope is that it's a big plane

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Speaker 3: and all of the artists get to be on the

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Speaker 3: same plane. Yeah, and hang out on a plane. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what happens. You can request that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: for everyone to change their plans to have a plane?

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Speaker 1: Are you like very social? No? But people want me

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Speaker 1: to be Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just feel in an uber like everyone is talking

519
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Speaker 3: to me. Everyone turns in is like, oh my god,

520
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Speaker 3: my childhood trauma is this? Or my dreams are.

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Speaker 1: We just had this.

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Speaker 2: We were finishing with a swamp to where where it

523
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Speaker 2: was pouring rain. We were all wet, rat round rat.

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Speaker 2: We get an unprompted this man, lovely man. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying drivers can't speak, obviously, I don't want that to

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Speaker 2: be the implication here the life story. But it was unprompted.

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Speaker 2: Like well, September of nineteen seventy eight, my family moved

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Speaker 2: from Shreveport to New Orleans and it was it was,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was astounding, and we somehow I was

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Speaker 2: hanging on to everyone. I was like, okay, well I'm

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Speaker 2: invested now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How long was it drive? Okay, yeah, it was up

534
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Speaker 1: there and it didn't develop in the last five minutes

535
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Speaker 1: to stop, but only because I think he had exhausted himself.

536
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Speaker 1: He had given us every date an event of his life.

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Speaker 1: It really, it really is. I wish I wish I

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Speaker 1: was that tap done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you, because I've been thinking

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Speaker 2: about this, this conversation that you've had with Janelle a lot,

542
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Speaker 2: especially in this like go to the party sense, like

543
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Speaker 2: self care culture is sort of insulating us in a

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Speaker 2: way that maybe is not that is that is precluding

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Speaker 2: like actual connection with other people. Like so let's say

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Speaker 2: where you're people are talking at you or on the plane,

547
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Speaker 2: everyone wants to talk to you. At what point do

548
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Speaker 2: you go, I should I should reach out and can

549
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Speaker 2: I should put out my own feelers at one point?

550
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Speaker 2: Are you doing that versus well, I just want to

551
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Speaker 2: be in my own space.

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Speaker 3: I think as a rule, I have the over the

553
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Speaker 3: headphone noise canceling headphones on with nothing happening in there

554
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Speaker 3: at a point until I am seated, and I do

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Speaker 3: most of my like listening to music for the first

556
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Speaker 3: time on a plane because I'm like super focused or

557
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: like movies always make me cry on a plane. Yeah,

558
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: but I have had people like tap me on the shoulder,

559
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Speaker 3: talk to me. I put it back, tap me on

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Speaker 3: the shoulder. There was this guy that tapped me on

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Speaker 3: my shoulder and it's like yeah, and he was like

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Speaker 3: people don't connect enough these days, which is not wrong,

563
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Speaker 3: and I was just like yeah, and I was like

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Speaker 3: I really was looking forward to and planning on listening

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Speaker 3: to something. So I hope you have a great flight,

566
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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go back, you know.

567
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Speaker 1: I try to be like polite.

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Speaker 3: And then he did it again and I was like, okay,

569
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Speaker 3: here we go six hours and he told me some

570
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Speaker 3: of the worst stuff I've ever heard. He like he

571
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Speaker 3: works for the military and he loads bombs onto planes

572
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Speaker 3: and he's like, I love my job because I can

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Speaker 3: see the effect of my work in the paper the

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Speaker 3: next day. What And I was like, I want you

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Speaker 3: to answer this. How do you sleep at night? I

576
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Speaker 3: want you to tell me this isn't rhetorical, how do

577
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Speaker 3: you sleep at night? And he was just like, I'm

578
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Speaker 3: just proud of defending my country. And I was just

579
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Speaker 3: like I think that what you're contributing to is morally reprehensible.

580
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Speaker 3: And I hope that the weight of people's lives like

581
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Speaker 3: weighs you down at some point, and like all I

582
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Speaker 3: can help for you is change. But also like he

583
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Speaker 3: had He's like, look at my phone background and it

584
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Speaker 3: was a like big chested, topless woman in Daisy Duke's

585
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Speaker 3: fishing and I was like, oh, is that your girlfriend.

586
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Speaker 3: He's like, no, that I'm aspiring to that, and like

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Speaker 3: he was just at me, like trying to get something

588
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Speaker 3: like from me and I. But what he got was like,

589
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Speaker 3: I think that you are a terrible person.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you think he wanted that in

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Speaker 1: a little bit our Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know if do people with sour hearts want to

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Speaker 3: be seen or like, do they.

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Speaker 1: Think that there is something to people like that being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: get into get let's get into a back and forth

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Speaker 1: with me. I want to be like challenged, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's and in a way.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I would like, if you want to be challenged,

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Speaker 3: are you opening a door, because like, if you are,

600
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Speaker 3: if you have to put words to what you're doing,

601
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Speaker 3: or is that going to change something for you? I

602
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Speaker 3: don't know. We don't we don't get to change people, right, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he wanted to be challenged. I think

605
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Speaker 2: people like that. I'm gonna project in surmise.

606
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Speaker 3: People who like murder, well, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Are people who like.

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Speaker 2: Something is like a little bit their internal sense of

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Speaker 2: morals are kind of all over the fun Yeah, let's

610
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Speaker 2: just say so.

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Speaker 3: What he he works out every day and the funniest

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Speaker 3: thing he said was I feel my muscles atrophy as

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here because.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't actively working out do it that much? He

615
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Speaker 1: had you touch his arm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes whatever that thing is that helps you

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Speaker 3: keep water weight, creatine okay or whatever. Yeah that behind

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Speaker 3: the Everyone like a bunch of hot girls I know

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Speaker 3: are taking creatine a thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a thing, and I've started taking it a

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Speaker 2: little bit and it has helped with like some some

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Speaker 2: bulk or some muscle.

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Speaker 3: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would love this guy. It sounds like you

625
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Speaker 1: love this guy. Yeah, he's on my phone background. Yeah.

626
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Speaker 1: Do you think when he looks in the mirror he

627
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Speaker 1: thinks he's hot? Oh yeah, yeah definitely.

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Speaker 2: I mean so then that's an example of like you're

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Speaker 2: putting your own sort of mechanisms at work in terms

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Speaker 2: of connection, and this is someone that you're like, I've

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Speaker 2: learned what I should know about you, and I've made

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Speaker 2: an assessment that like this is that these are the

633
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Speaker 2: limits of my connection.

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: Well, even like it is still connecting when you are

635
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: learning someone that you dislike, and that's informative too. It

636
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: can be like a homing device for your own values

637
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: totally or just like wow, I guess I do know

638
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: who I am because there are people like that, you know, yeah,

639
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: and like and also it's just like heartbreaking. I'm like

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Speaker 3: your life one day, hopefully you will find that it

641
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: was for nothing and meaningless. This is supposed to be fun.

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: We can talk about cultures.

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Speaker 1: This is culture. Yeah, no, this guy like is directly

644
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: like this guy's day is so directly linked to people's

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: like mass death. Well, those people are on planes, I

646
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Speaker 1: will say, like, I don't know if you'st we were.

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Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by just how many people are watching

648
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Speaker 1: Fox News on the plane. Like there was a guy

649
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Speaker 1: in front of us on the plane yesterday who was

650
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: watching Fox News and then he watched the film Miss

651
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Speaker 1: Pettigrew Lives for a Day, which I can say I

652
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: know the title of the movie just by seeing the

653
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: actresses on screen. It was Francis McDorman and Amy Adams.

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Speaker 1: I am again Kinsey six gay. Kinsey is a feeling

655
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Speaker 1: I feel strongly gay. And I was watching it and

656
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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what is the Fox News to

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Speaker 1: Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day? Pipeline. But then a

658
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Speaker 1: lot of gay guys are Republicans. You hear about grinder

659
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: crashing out at the conventions. These guys are gay. Theysgrew

660
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: lives for a day, they live for Francis mcdormand's and

661
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: they're gay, and they're voting against us. They're going home,

662
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: they're having sex in the butt, and they're coming to

663
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: work and they're sending out.

664
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Bombs Like for that guy to't be into big titted

665
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: fisher girl.

666
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: It's it's horseshoe theory. Yea to something.

667
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: It's a little like suspicious that you really had to

668
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: show me that.

669
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like it's like gender max thing

670
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: in a way that is like huh you know what

671
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean.

672
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be rooted in, like I'm look

673
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: how much of a man I am. Feel my arm,

674
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: look at my bombs, want to see what I want

675
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: to fuck? Ain't nothing more cis than this, Like it's

676
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: just like it's it's a it's a it's an Olympic

677
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: feat And to do this on a plane when someone

678
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: is captive is also very Yeah.

679
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: That's also like like pussy behavior to have a captive audience.

680
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah I can say whatever, just you just you are.

681
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm powerless in the situation, and that's what's fun.

682
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then but then what's what's great is here

683
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: you are telling telling the story and now we all

684
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: actually intrinsically know exactly what this guy looks like. I

685
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: love when people just don't know who they're talking and

686
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: we're dealing with, or they forget, Like for you, have

687
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: you listened to the Lily Allen album yet? No? I

688
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: would really like to. What's so shocking is so you know,

689
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: I won't name names, but it's ostensibly about her very

690
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: famous ex husband, and this guy marries Lily Allen, right,

691
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: Like some of these people will fully marry or start

692
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: dating these like really like evocative singer songwriters, and then

693
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: at some point they'll forget and they'll do the craziest

694
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: ship to them. And then you get this album written

695
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: about you when your choices and it's like, yeah, I

696
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: guess you just forgot who you married, like what what is?

697
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: And then people will be like, oh the whole she

698
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: wrote a song about me? Think that that the like

699
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: that happens in culture. It's like you but you knew

700
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: who you were dealing with in the beginning. An artist

701
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: was a reveal And if it is a reveal, then wow,

702
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: you really didn't value the relationship that you were in

703
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: or see the person.

704
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really got to get right with yourself before

705
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 3: dating an artist. I think you're going to get depicted,

706
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: and you should have a life that you would be

707
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: proud of being depicted.

708
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: One hundred So here and then here you are like

709
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: with another artist, how do you feel about being depicted? Like, well,

710
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: have you guys talked about that?

711
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, I mean we like it. We like that, Yeah,

712
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: we like it. Yeah, because we like each other right,

713
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: And I would say for the most part, we are

714
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: right with ourselves. But I if I write something, I'll

715
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: show it and be like, are you cool with this?

716
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: And then usually answers yes, And if the answer is

717
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: like yeah, this detail feels a little like something or other,

718
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: like we'll just talk about it.

719
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Guess what, that's a relationship.

720
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just talk about it.

721
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: You can just talk about it, valuing the other person

722
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: for holistically who they are, because probably one of the

723
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: big reasons you fell in love is because of that

724
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: talent and that gift and that access to your emotions

725
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: and being able to channel that and funnel that into

726
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: your work, which can actually so many people.

727
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: I love your brain, Like if you're feeding me through

728
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: your brain, Like what that's such a privilege.

729
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: Favorite Muppet, favorite m but I.

730
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: Mean it is miss Piggy. Yeah, Gonzo Rocks gone obviously. Yeah.

731
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: What do you think of Fozzy Bear?

732
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: I love Fuzzy Bear. Do you not like Fozzy Bear?

733
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I think you're a fozzy Bear. Maybe that's what it is, like,

734
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I know I am Fozzy Bear.

735
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: So you see yourself?

736
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm Fazzy Bear?

737
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: You're a little bit Fozzy, a little bit Gonzo a

738
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: little a little bit, a little bit Piggy for sure.

739
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 3: Also Peppe the King Krown do you know the Yeah, course,

740
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: the little hair going everywhere?

741
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: Is the eye the mouse Swedish chef. Yeah, I like

742
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Beaker Speaker, so yeah, I'm Bunsen. He's Beaker for sure.

743
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: How are y'all not?

744
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Uh, Piggy and Kermie No, Burton Ernie.

745
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: No, the guy the Hecklers.

746
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, that your position?

747
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: Like, is this not your box?

748
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: By the way, you want to know my favorite joke

749
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: of all time? No, it's at the end of and

750
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace, The Muppets three D Show. It's in

751
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: disney World, and the Statler and Waldorf are in there.

752
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: A little I called them the Lincoln seats there. They're

753
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: they're up in the box and the show is over

754
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: and they're like, we gotta go, and then the other

755
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: one goes, we can't. We're bolted to the seats, and

756
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I was just like, I love that. They really broke

757
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: the fourth wall there because they are puppets. They are

758
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: bolted to the seats. They're never leaving. And then the

759
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: horror crept in because I realized they're never leaving. Well,

760
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: now they are because they.

761
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's why r I p Okay. It was like

762
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: they're making.

763
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: A new monster's ink, a dream tip the dream. Well,

764
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: the dream lives on with the monsters Incs. Yes, okay. Also,

765
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: don't worry about the muppets. They're moving to rock and

766
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: roller coaster. I hate a lot of what I know.

767
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, well this is a news outlet.

768
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: Frankly, he keeps up with it. I don't. I say

769
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: that with no judgment. I know sometimes I'll come on

770
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: here and I'll just use an opportunity for the podcast

771
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: to like break news and theme parks to the readers.

772
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: Are you people like you love theme part?

773
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love them and like an it It didn't

774
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: start out ironically. Now it's kind of ironic. It's just

775
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: one of those industries that I keep up with. It's

776
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: like it's like one of my synapse fires when I'm

777
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: finding out what's being built.

778
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: Do you know anything about King's Dominion in Virginia? Because

779
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: that was that was my haunt, was it? That was

780
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: like some of my early moments without parents was going

781
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: to kings in a King's dominion. That that's the whole

782
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: culture in and of itself.

783
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that.

784
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: Well, like the parents think, oh, they'll be safe because

785
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: it's all we're in the parking lot and they can't.

786
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: And there are drugs at the park. To sound like

787
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: a conservative no no, no talking head, but like there

788
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: are drugs and everybody's like, like first people like smoking weed,

789
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: Like people are hooking up at the park. All of

790
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: the regular childhood meannesses that have to come out are

791
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: happening at the theme park. Yea, the wavepool doesn't never

792
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: touch a.

793
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Wave no, never get into the wave pool.

794
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: Never get into the wavepool.

795
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: Why is there a wavepool King's Dominion at a medieval

796
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: themed park.

797
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: It's not medieval, but kings you would think so that

798
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: it's the king's dominion. Why have I never there's nothing general.

799
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: There's sections. There's like the kids area that was Peanuts. Yeah,

800
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: there's like a Nickelodeon area maybe there's not anymore. There's

801
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: like kind of a junglely area and a conda in

802
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: the volcano.

803
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: That one has a good couple of good roller coasters yeah.

804
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: King's Dominion yeah yeah, and.

805
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: Then there's like the section of like just new like oh,

806
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: this is the tallest whatever is the fastest fall, and

807
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: it's just there's no theme.

808
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, I guess chaos ki.

809
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you would it was your haunt, like you

810
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: would be skipping Russian to go to King's Dominion during

811
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: the day or it's like summer hag like where like

812
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: how would you how would you find yourself there?

813
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: It was mostly middle school and definitely like kids had

814
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: birthday parties. Weirdly, the pizza at King's Dominion was different

815
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: than all the other pizza I've ever had. It's like

816
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: kind of puffy, puffy, like kind of puffy, like it

817
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: was good, like I wish it's a good order, like

818
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: it sounds really bad, but it's kind of good.

819
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: So puffy in terms of like the cheese was rich

820
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: or like.

821
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: I was bubbling.

822
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Ups as fuck.

823
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, the cheese was probably bad, but I

824
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: probably liked it.

825
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: God yeah, remember being that age and being like, I'm

826
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna go eat some puffy pizza, righty?

827
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: Ice cream?

828
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: Is that the because they turned out to not really

829
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: be the future of ice cream? Huh?

830
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: Because I did have di Dippin' dots at Niagara Falls

831
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: recently and that was cool. I recommend this in higher experience,

832
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: but you have to go on the maiden of the missed,

833
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: Lady of the miss made of.

834
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: The which is as a child, I've not I've not

835
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: done this at all.

836
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: It's actually.

837
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: So cool.

838
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: It's an incredible It's like one of the wonders of

839
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: the world. But not to look at it. It's great,

840
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 3: but made of the miss like you're in the water,

841
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: like your whole vision. Why it's out like there you

842
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: it's very sublime, like it's my whole band, like we'll

843
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: do this because we're on tour. And then everyone came

844
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: out like kind of changed in odd.

845
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: By it, which you don't have anymore. Awe is harder,

846
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: the sublime is harder, and harder to reach the sublime

847
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: and harder to reach. Yes, which one is that but

848
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: that's real culture number number two. The sublime is harder

849
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: and harder to reach. He defined AWE the other day.

850
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: Can you do it now?

851
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

852
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: The things that you the ingredients you need for AWE

853
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: are psychological safety, which of course we don't have anymore

854
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: because we are constantly surveiled. We're watching ourselves, so that

855
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: the third person that leads to more self judgment and

856
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: self whatever, just like just like self modulation of like behavior. Right,

857
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Like I I never want to be perceived. Over the years,

858
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: I've wanted to be perceived less and less because I'm

859
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: perceiving myself all the time every week, and I'm like

860
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: I less of that. Please. Anyway, you need psychological safety,

861
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: you need connection and odds best experience with other people.

862
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: And I forget the third.

863
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Thing, but it's these things that like our fraying at

864
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: the edges, like with the advancement of certain technologies. Yeah,

865
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: and so I'm so going to Niagara Falls made in

866
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: the misted sounds about right with your bandmates.

867
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: There's a bit of all there.

868
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Maybe this is even why this came up. We recently

869
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: went on the Alligator Swamp Tour now New Orleans. So

870
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: before you ask, no, it was not with Lana del

871
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Ray's husband. Okay, we thought about it, Okay, but we

872
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: would have had to travel an extra hour, an extra hour.

873
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: To get He's doing that job, so wow, I can't

874
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: imagine how his job has changed.

875
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: Must be for you.

876
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a great songwriter. She she DMed me to

877
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: open for her. I don't know if people realize this,

878
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: but the like Norman fucking Rockwell tour a lot of

879
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: those shows. She booked herself like d I Y, but

880
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: she like emailed the venues and was like, Hello, I'm

881
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: on a del Rey. I would like to come through

882
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: this venue on the state I feel nervus. IM always

883
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: nervous talking about other people. This is what I think

884
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: people can know this. And she dm a ton of

885
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: people to open, like only days prior and I ended

886
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: a tour in Michigan and she was like, do you

887
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: want to open in Chicago in two days?

888
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: And sick.

889
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: We were like yeah, I be there in a sec.

890
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: My damn. Yeah, that's awesome like that. That's a good

891
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: one to one. But you think we experienced the sublime well,

892
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: because I think we did, because yes we again it

893
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: was not mister del Rey, which actually was fine, because

894
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, maybe we should just keep

895
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: that lore. So we had this amazing man, his name

896
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: was Captain Kelly, and we get out into the swamp

897
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and just to see like a wild alligator sort of

898
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: swim up like a dog, like literally like the the

899
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: airboat would stop and the alligator would swim up and

900
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: know that it meant we were he was gonna get

901
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: fed by Captain Kelly, panting like and literally swimming up.

902
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: And then it was kind of adorable wat and cute, yeah,

903
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: because it would just sit there with its mouth open

904
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: like this and the captain would feed it. And someone goes, well,

905
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: he's so nice. How long have you known this alligator?

906
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: And the guy was like, nah, he would get me.

907
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: He would he would bite me and get me if

908
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: my finger, yeah, my fingers. And because he was sort

909
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: of saying like, it seems like I have a relationship

910
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: with this reptile, but it's still I don't alligator. It

911
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: would be good. Yeah, this was awe for me, like

912
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: watching the alligator that it was over twelve feet long.

913
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's two long guys.

914
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: That's too long, two really long guys, or three two

915
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: tall three and it was thick. And then Captain Kelly

916
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: tapped the back of the therapists. Was that the therapist was

917
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: that the word? Right? Okay? Were you trying to define

918
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: the scale?

919
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: I think to get the worst person in the room

920
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: to ask for the carapaces?

921
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: Nodded as just to confirm that the the appropriate terminology.

922
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: This is this is when you reveal that your high

923
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: school was sort of like all reptileator high schoolators. Back. Yeah,

924
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: the back, but he tapped on it and it was

925
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: it was hollow, hollow and hard. Of the boat of

926
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: the back of the alligator's back, the carapace, and then

927
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: he tapped, so he tapped the boat and it sounded

928
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: the same as when he tapped the back of the

929
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: alley the whole of the Yeah, yeah, uh wait what

930
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Basically the alligator was really hard?

931
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay.

932
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: But then they had us whole the baby alligator and

933
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I was so shook because it just felt like a

934
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: sack of meat.

935
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 3: Was it kind of like? Yes?

936
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: And then Captain Kelly tried to scare me becau I

937
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: was the most I was the most kiddish around holding

938
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: the alligator. That's like one thing about me, like I

939
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: don't need to touch the animals, and.

940
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: Yet you went out of your way to I was

941
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: an experienced and experienced all Having.

942
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: The experience of all visually was one thing. But then like,

943
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: all right, everyone, now we're going to hold an alligator. Like,

944
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: I don't know you you sort of. I liked the alligator,

945
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you liked it. Yeah, would you hold a koala?

946
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: No?

947
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Really, I don't need to hold

948
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: any animals. I really don't.

949
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: Would you pet an animal?

950
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Yes? I would, I would. I would say I'm pretty

951
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: good with domestic animals, but like in terms of like

952
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: animals at the zoo and stuff, like I don't need

953
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: to pet it, like I don't need to feel the.

954
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: Scales, like you know, they respect the distance totally, right, Yeah,

955
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: you don't really get to ask because they can't really

956
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: tell you yes or no.

957
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Right. It also felt like everyone else did it, so

958
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: then if I'm the one person who doesn't do it,

959
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: it's like I guess, like, get yeah, give me, give

960
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: me the alligator.

961
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: There's this huge thing where musicians go and whold koalas

962
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: when they tour Australia.

963
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you done this? I've done this?

964
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And okay, but you are. Let's talk about this.

965
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: Both of you have incredible voices.

966
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: That's kind of real.

967
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: But you stand in line, and on either side of

968
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: the line are koalas asleep because they sleep like twenty

969
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: hours a day and they just wake up to eat

970
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: bamboo and it makes them high and they go back

971
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: to sleep.

972
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: It makes them high, makes them high bamboo, the eucaly eucalyptus,

973
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: that's what.

974
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: Thank you.

975
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: The drug addicts.

976
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just standing out. Yeah, they all have chlamydia.

977
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: So it's this like not hub sanctuary for the Kualas.

978
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: I guess the sanctuary is a hub.

979
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Yes, But I like the Arrowsmith of Animals because okay,

980
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: because they're drug addicts on they fuck. It's actually really coature.

981
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Number thirty are the Arrowsmith of Animals because they're on

982
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: they fuck? How are you guys?

983
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Like?

984
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: Also, I want to tell you that arrow Smith used

985
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: to be out rock and roller Coaster and now they're

986
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: getting replaced with the Muppets, which is probably why they

987
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: were top of mind for that rule of culture. So

988
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: they are out of rock and roller coaster. But the

989
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: threat the rules converged. Okay, but so then does this

990
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: mean what you've got.

991
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: I held I held a call, and you're like, oh,

992
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 3: it's gonna be cute and cuddly. But then you get

993
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: there and their claws are like this and they have

994
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: hef to them and I'm like holding this koala and

995
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: it like looks at me like like in the eyes,

996
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm holding like a dinosaur or something

997
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: like I can't believe I'm touching, touching history, Like wow, koala,

998
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: you're famous, like everyone knows.

999
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: About you, so significant, right, And then they're like and

1000
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: on the way out, if you want to go touch

1001
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: them kangaroos, go ahead, and then they just open a

1002
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 4: gate unsupervised.

1003
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: You can go touch one hundred kangaroos. You wait in

1004
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: line for the koala and then as if they don't matter,

1005
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: they just are like, by the way, there's a bunch

1006
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: of kangaroos, and they hand you food and you can

1007
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: go and like hug and touch and hang out with

1008
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: them for as long as you want, which I'm like

1009
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: I would, I would stand in line for.

1010
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: You for kingos.

1011
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: But this is the reason why kangaroos are sort of

1012
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: in an open pen without supervision is because they are

1013
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: basically rodents in Australia. They want to get rid of them.

1014
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: Yea, they are selling kangaroo meat at the grocer restore.

1015
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: Can't stand the way they reproduce. Have you seen it? No,

1016
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: essentially too little.

1017
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: My stomach kind of hurts though. Well, I'm gonna tell

1018
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: me something weird.

1019
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: Go ahead, and Lucy Dacas just puked. Our first guest

1020
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: to throw up all over the white table. Oh my,

1021
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: Lucy Dacas, you've threw up all over the white table.

1022
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Don't tell us about the kangaroo. Look it up. I

1023
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: don't even want to get into it because if here's

1024
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: one thing that will happen, if you throw up, I

1025
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: will throw talking about to throw up, Rachel, forget it,

1026
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: forget it. She takes the pictures and she's gonna throw up.

1027
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: When bowen yang are going to start far and I

1028
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: start farting, someone breaks up with me again. No one's

1029
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: broken up with you because mind we're off. No one's

1030
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: broken up with you because of the forest. They not not,

1031
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: They've not said as much.

1032
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's hard to say.

1033
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's hard to say. Maybe it's hard to say.

1034
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: Although I would just I'm sorry.

1035
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to make that.

1036
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 6: No, I'm happy to talk about that any time I

1037
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 6: get well, I've only been broken up with like hardcore

1038
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: like once, but it was sort of like amorphous and like,

1039
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 6: well that's being unclear, but it's fine.

1040
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: It's in the past. It is kind of nice to

1041
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: no concrete reason, you know what I mean? Yeah, like

1042
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: because that because then you can deal with it. Whereas

1043
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: like if it's like an amorphous thing like so you

1044
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: if someone was like sorry about it was the farts,

1045
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: I'd be like great, like okay, yeah, I'll work on that.

1046
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 1: It's also like.

1047
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: It's clear that it's the other person's problem, like if

1048
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: you're so shallow, like then they're just they're counting themselves

1049
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: out of the running.

1050
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: If you can't have me at my farting, you can't

1051
00:51:53,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: have me at my vomits. Sure, you know what was

1052
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: the last time you threw up? I thought I was

1053
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna throw up last night? Actually too fast.

1054
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: To me, You're like you're nine years old right now.

1055
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm always I almost threw up last night because I

1056
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: eat too fast.

1057
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: I ordered lemon chicken from the diner because I'm losing

1058
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: my battle every single night with smoking too much weed

1059
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: and eating food. Okay, so I bate too much weed,

1060
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: and then I ordered a lemon chicken, mashed potatoes, zucchini okay,

1061
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: and Avlon meg noon soup. How do you say this?

1062
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: Do you think it was a lemon chicken and not

1063
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: the it was?

1064
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: I think it was all of it together. I just

1065
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: got so excited about how good it was that you

1066
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: ever eat too fast because of this reason? You know

1067
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Then I thought,

1068
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: am I gonna throw up for the first time in

1069
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: And I couldn't even remember the last time I threw up.

1070
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: That didn't though I thought I would, thought you would.

1071
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what's what are what are you and Katie Gavin

1072
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: like on the tour bus y'all?

1073
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Y'all like two crushes? Questions you didn't company last time?

1074
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I want you to answer that. What did you question?

1075
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 4: Right now?

1076
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I can tell you it probably was

1077
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: like I I. I used to be able to drink

1078
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: like a lot and not feel anything sure, And I

1079
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: didn't start drinking until I was like twenty one, like

1080
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: after because I was like afraid of it, and I

1081
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: grew up kind of afraid of it. And then recently

1082
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: it's like I'll have like two glasses of wine and

1083
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: I'll be like I'm sick. Yeah, so I just like

1084
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: don't really drink.

1085
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: That's good.

1086
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, this is happening to many people in my life.

1087
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: It is people. You realize it really is just poison.

1088
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: It is just poison steel, the poison working on you. Yes,

1089
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: it's like a.

1090
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Sick feeling and not a fun feeling.

1091
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1092
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: Sure, but you and what are your order? What are

1093
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: y'all eating? I want to know what are we eating?

1094
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: Well, we have catering, which is nice because there's so

1095
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: many people, it's like over twenty people that we everyone's

1096
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: so big and so you don't really have time to

1097
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: go out and so we'll get like fruits and.

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00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Veggies caterers on the bus.

1099
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: Not on the bus like at the venues. Oh great,

1100
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: But what is what is Katie eating? I don't know.

1101
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: We had separate buses, which maybe is you know, sad

1102
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: because we would have been having such fun. We are

1103
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: We are going to dinner in La which we should

1104
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 3: all go to dinner.

1105
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: Where are you going? You know you're going to all time?

1106
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: I haven't gone there. We went to Spina, which is

1107
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: like yeah, I like it.

1108
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Too, you know what, I go all the time, Superba.

1109
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: Super I never know that Superba, Superba.

1110
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I love Bacari and Bacari, Gary silver Lake, Okay, it's

1111
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: a good date spot.

1112
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 3: All right. I don't know about these things. Bring your artists,

1113
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 3: your artists to the cary.

1114
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: No one knows who it is.

1115
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: We won't say yeah, secrets secret.

1116
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: I would love dinner with y'all. I would get all

1117
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: hot and being back here gets me hot in the face.

1118
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: When when we were in Coachella and you guys, uh

1119
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: facetimed you did that.

1120
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: I just I forget that. You can just use your phone. Yeah,

1121
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 3: you're just at any point, just like someone can get

1122
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: into your life.

1123
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: I just realized I have I now have a song

1124
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: with Lucy and Katie. Oh wow, wow, get on my level. Now,

1125
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: that's really I'm really thinking about that.

1126
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm really thinking about Oh that's so.

1127
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: Amazing, and I'll perform it at my tour Christmas in December.

1128
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Get your tickets at Matt Rodgers Official dot com.

1129
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: This is I don't think so many. This is our

1130
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: segment where we take one minute to really go off

1131
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: on something in culture. It's a polemic. It is really

1132
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: destructive and that's what.

1133
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 1: We if we do our job. I have thing, okay, yeah,

1134
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: we are.

1135
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: You gonna do it.

1136
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. Okay. You get to choose out

1137
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: of your options. Yeahah, we've because you said you had

1138
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: five options. Fro don't things but you feel strongly about

1139
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: one thing?

1140
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: Well, I feel strongly about all of them, but not

1141
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: all of them. Am I willing to hear what other

1142
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 3: people have to say?

1143
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: I understand? So what do you think about the idea

1144
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: of you just kind of telling us what they all

1145
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: are and then later Okay, okay, okay.

1146
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: I'll do the whole I'll do how many minutes you

1147
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: got later we can do this.

1148
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: We got minutes, Yeah, you got minutes, but for first

1149
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: one minute for me, then bo then Lucy Gis Okay,

1150
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so

1151
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: many times starts now, I don't think so, honey, Avatar,

1152
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: Fire and Ash trailer. What is it about? What is

1153
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: the movie about? Because I I know that is a

1154
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: lot is happening. Yes, I know there's a lot of screaming,

1155
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: explosions and more, But I do need to know the

1156
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: story of the film. I understand. Also, the trailer is

1157
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: very international. It being a very international movie. This will

1158
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: make billion of dollars. I'm sure. I'm so happy for

1159
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: everyone involved. But I do need to know what the

1160
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: movie is about. I understand that, like, we don't really

1161
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: go for the story, but it would be nice to know.

1162
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1163
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: Would you say Way of Water was about? Oh the water?

1164
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: I guess the baby was strongbe this is what I'm saying.

1165
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you remember from Avatar Way of Water?

1166
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: My baby is strong? She was a singer of songs,

1167
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: et cetera. Give me some lines of dialogue that is

1168
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: not just like a nave screaming through the air, landing

1169
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: on a spacecraft. Like I understand the humans are definitely

1170
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: bad again, I like, we love that. I was once

1171
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: told I look like Jake Sully Avatar version, not Sam Worthington.

1172
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. And don't any want to think

1173
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: it's a compliment. No, No, that was just sort of

1174
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: an additional fact I wanted to throw on there. You

1175
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: feel you do?

1176
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: Think so honey about that?

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: I actually can I say something when someone was like,

1178
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: you look like Jake Sulley, look like Jake Sully I

1179
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: was like, okay, and then I saw him and I

1180
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: was like, not only do I kind of get it,

1181
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: but I'll take it. Yeah, it's a gorgeous proportion and

1182
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: like I think it was, it's like the long nose

1183
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: and like the eyebrows like sort of like the like

1184
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: ectomorphic positioning.

1185
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, ectomorphic positioning.

1186
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: Themorphs, and there's mesomorphs. Ectomorph is long and lean like

1187
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman.

1188
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 3: So everyone is either an ecdomorph or amorph.

1189
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's plots on a on

1190
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: a spectrum perhaps, Okay, yeah, the morpho spectrum I I

1191
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: trust him with.

1192
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: That's a culture that is absolutely huge culture my anamorph be.

1193
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: I know, a.

1194
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: Bear maybe, but what what is my is that it is?

1195
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: That?

1196
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 3: Know what we're gonna say.

1197
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. For some reason I saw you and

1198
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with but I saw you

1199
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: becoming an ant eater taper Yeah, taper like and for

1200
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: some reason, yes, those are really nice animals.

1201
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: Okay are they nice? And ant?

1202
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: They're eating the ants? I'm happy? Yeah, thank god, I

1203
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: really don't like ants.

1204
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of.

1205
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: Those things we probably should appreciate more because you know,

1206
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: they have a function. In society. Again, there's got to

1207
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: be something with like the.

1208
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: Soil, there has got to be something. I like Mosquito.

1209
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Sure, I like the culture they worship one woman. I

1210
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: like that.

1211
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a queen.

1212
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: Ant is a queen an.

1213
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: Do you know how old old ants can get?

1214
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: How old the oldest ant.

1215
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 3: Is thirty years old? W wow, flirty old? Really old?

1216
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so old.

1217
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: That's one of my funnest facts.

1218
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: We found out that the alligators we saw can lived

1219
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: to seventy five or eighty.

1220
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1221
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: And the big one thing named Benjamin that I was

1222
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: discussing earlier was approximately sixty years old, the same age

1223
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: as Captain Kerry Kelly. Kelly, Captain Kerry is un below deck. Yes,

1224
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: what was I gonna say about? Probably something amazing Avatar?

1225
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I think most of the movies

1226
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: are about them jumping on planes, you know, like or

1227
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: them like roaring.

1228
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: She was a singer of songs. What an interesting line.

1229
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what what's happening is? I think Avatar one

1230
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: was about like, Okay, we're seeing the planet like you

1231
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're getting accustomed to it.

1232
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 3: Avatar to be like colonialism is bad, correct.

1233
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: I think Avatar two was obviously about our great oceans,

1234
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: or rather Pandora's Great Oceans. And then fire and ash

1235
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: I think is gonna have to do with I don't know,

1236
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 1: I guess like the skies or something. And apparently there's

1237
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fire out.

1238
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: Are you doing earth water fire? Are they gonna do?

1239
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: Air?

1240
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: Feels like the logical progression. Okay, I feel like air

1241
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: has already been in the movies. They've been flying around,

1242
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: They've been flying around so much.

1243
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: This is this is my thought, and I might be wrong,

1244
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: but to put up movies that are like colonialism is bad.

1245
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: Like right, but it's too late, you know what I mean.

1246
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we to do about it still happening?

1247
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: What's still happening? But you're right totally, well, so yeah,

1248
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: have stopped it. Maybe that's not the point. Well, it's

1249
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: about responsibility once that is the case by the mindset

1250
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: of of malonialism. Yeah, of course, Yeah, respect and responsibility.

1251
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Once you've established a reality that is taken from something else,

1252
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: it's like you must now honor the fact that like

1253
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's essentially being like reparations.

1254
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: Also, it's like maybe it's too late to have happened.

1255
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 3: It's not too late to try and correct, correct, give back.

1256
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: You will never be one of the people. That's exactly

1257
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: what the line was. Yea.

1258
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: And then so that's from something you will of the

1259
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: paper salad, thank you for and for a different.

1260
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: Movie, explain that something. Okay, Okay, Emelia Perez herself. This

1261
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: is coming out in December, as we know, so this

1262
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: is to be seasonal. Yes, all right, this is Bowen Yang's.

1263
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: I always always open the wrong app when it comes

1264
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: to having to time something. Okay, this is Bowenyangs. I

1265
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, his time starts now. I don't

1266
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: think so many points sets. First of all, let's talk

1267
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: about the spelling. One extra eye, one eye too many

1268
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: after the tea.

1269
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: After the two.

1270
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Tea's are the one. I'm not gonna look into it.

1271
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: All I know is there's an errant eye, an errant

1272
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: of silent eye. Okay, sure, you look like a damn weed.

1273
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: And for a flower to have to be in a

1274
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: pot that is wrapped in a specific kind of foil

1275
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: that three seconds maybe going to be mistaken for the

1276
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: pedal of the flower, I go, well, then you're leaning

1277
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: too much on the container, and the flower itself is

1278
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: not doing the right kind of work to aesthetically hold

1279
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: the center of this presentation and arrange understand it. Why

1280
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: are they everywhere? We've got too many Christmas plants, the tree,

1281
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: the fucking mistletoe. Don't even get me started on that second.

1282
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: And now I got to figure out this flower that

1283
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: looks like ship. Get that out of my sight. I

1284
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: don't think so many points out us. That's one minute.

1285
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's the it's the thing about it. It's

1286
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: the thing about Christmas that I'm the most like, yeah, like.

1287
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: It feels eighties. Why do they feel like it's an

1288
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: eighties flowerlooke a decade?

1289
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: You're so right? Yeah, why does it feel eighties? Because

1290
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: it does?

1291
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: The container is this like shiny like yeah that the

1292
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 3: dress beautiful dresses, beautiful dress to those to those flowers.

1293
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: It does. Yeah, it has like a cocaine energy.

1294
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, you know when you bend the leaf,

1295
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: like white goo comes out.

1296
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: Like come, I guess you're right. I think. I think.

1297
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: I think when I was grown a kid.

1298
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: In church, I just go like yup with my nail

1299
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: and it would just well, one time on Christmas, since

1300
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: this is apparently CHRISTI episode Red and Green didn't realize.

1301
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: But our the church I grew up in, everyone would

1302
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: the lights would go down in the church and we'd

1303
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 3: pass a flame. Everyone get a candle and pass the flame,

1304
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: and at the end it would beautiful, everyone singing Silent

1305
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: Night acapella. And I was five and holding the flame

1306
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: and looking up at the church and kind of going around,

1307
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: and then this woman starts hitting me in the head

1308
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 3: and I don't know why. I'm just getting smacked in

1309
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: the head and people are screaming. And then the lights

1310
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: come on and I had lit my hair on fire,

1311
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: and it was just like and I I do have

1312
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: this memory. The most potent memory from it is the

1313
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: pastor jokingly I now know, saying, well, Chris missus canceled.

1314
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: And that is humiliated, I know, because it stopped Silent Night,

1315
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: and it was sort of talk like do we restart?

1316
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: It's like, no, let's just let's just go home.

1317
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: Almost immolated. We have to go, we have to go.

1318
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: But why that's nineties culture is let's fucking embarrass the

1319
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: kid and and and have that be a trauma in

1320
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: her fucking life.

1321
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 3: I do. I like, really don't like Christmas, and I

1322
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: don't usually think of the story as why but that

1323
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 3: you think, yeah, probably that sounds like a yeah, yes,

1324
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: that was the worst Christmas ever? Was?

1325
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: I love that Christmas album and the best Christmas.

1326
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: Songs maybe the best that I know of?

1327
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, but you've you've you've done Christmas songs.

1328
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: You've released some Christmas songs, haven't you making that up?

1329
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: Which one would you release?

1330
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 3: That was the worst Christmas ever?

1331
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: That was the one? Oh, that would be really really good.

1332
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing like a Christmas show with Rufus Wayne right,

1333
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 3: who I also sang with last night, which was amazing cool.

1334
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: Where was that Western Hall?

1335
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: Partly like the New Yorker Festival, But I was like,

1336
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: can we sing the Art Teacher together? It's just just

1337
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, if you know a song, I'll send

1338
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: it to you. But he's, you know, a legend. He's

1339
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: just like a history lesson within one person.

1340
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: Rufus, Yeah holds it all. Yeah, can do can can

1341
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: do judy at Carnegie Hall, and can also do opera,

1342
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: do opera and then fucking rock with you.

1343
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's speaking of rocking with you, it's time for

1344
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: your I don't think son Grammy winning rock artists. Okay. Also,

1345
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, superstar.

1346
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: We don't know that yet, we do.

1347
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: I have faith.

1348
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: My heart is racing.

1349
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to experience this. Awe. Don't be racist, sublime, Okay.

1350
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: I do need to. You have a screen protector and

1351
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't see the timer when you were faced out.

1352
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: Don't worry.

1353
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this I'm scared, Lucy. I don't think Sonny.

1354
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: Her time starts now.

1355
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: The boy with the dangly earring? Is he a villain?

1356
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. And here's why. First of all,

1357
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to wear the costume before it becomes

1358
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: the clothes. Sometimes people are the ally at the Pride

1359
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: parade for years before they figure out why they keep

1360
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: showing up. Oh, why are we gatekeeping a gate that

1361
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: all of us had to walk through a one point

1362
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 3: or other specifically with the dangly earring. Sometimes we have

1363
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: a guy with the dangly earing and then you wait

1364
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: five years. You have a beautiful woman on.

1365
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: Your hands thirty seconds.

1366
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: In other situations, the guy takes out the earring. No

1367
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: one was hurt. If you don't like that guy that

1368
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: has to do with that guy's personality. And unfortunately, it

1369
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: would be so easy if we actually knew who people

1370
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: were from what they're wearing. But we do have to

1371
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: do the hard work and take the time to find

1372
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: out if someone is actually disingenuous or cool with us.

1373
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: And I think that the threat of being made fun

1374
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 3: of or thought of as disingenuous at the front is

1375
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: intimidating people out of being creative and playful with their presentation,

1376
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: which could lead them down a path to a life

1377
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: that would be more tolerable and fun.

1378
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that that pierced through all of my

1379
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: talused armor. My heart new episode unlocked. Just like on

1380
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: all those themes, I have to say, I when you

1381
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: when you started, and the way that you the way

1382
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: that you structured that, I don't think so, honey, was

1383
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: a misdirect because when you started by saying the boy

1384
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 1: with the dangle earring here, I am thinking you're gonna.

1385
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 3: Tear that guy up and because it is easy to do,

1386
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: but I think it's lazy.

1387
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: You're right, it is easy to do, and I was

1388
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: ready to do it. And then I and then I

1389
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: had to assess based on your actual content. You queered the.

1390
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: Form you did innovative, that was the sublime, that was awe,

1391
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1392
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 3: So basically you are you currently having to be like

1393
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: But I do hate the guy with the dan.

1394
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't hate the guy with the dan.

1395
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: Sometimes is the guy with the dangling and sometimes the

1396
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: guy with the earring is hateable sometimes, but hate people

1397
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: for who they are, you know, give them the dignity

1398
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: of hating them for who they are.

1399
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: Let me talk. Let me go up to the dangled

1400
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: and let me speak with them, you know what I mean.

1401
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: And the judge then based on them showing me what's on

1402
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: their phone, be it the the you know, huge breasted

1403
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: manifestation of their sexual conquest desiralabilities thing or the bombs,

1404
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. But I do agree with

1405
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: you that it's like you do have to let people

1406
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: look maybe maybe in a way that you think is silly,

1407
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: like people should express themselves with clothes. I do feel

1408
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: and music and like art and stuff like that and

1409
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: self expression. I feel like, let's not judge. Yes, I

1410
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: hope I have not judged you too much too many

1411
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: times in the past for the way you've looked whoa

1412
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: you don't really read me for that like I'm mismatched

1413
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: colors because I'm colorb you don't read me. I'm why

1414
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: I bring this up, but I just I just hope

1415
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: I've never gate kept an aesthetic. I don't think we

1416
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 1: do that to each other, because this is the thing.

1417
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 2: An aesthetic is the bridge to like the like the person,

1418
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: or the the idea or like the political notion or

1419
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: whatever it is.

1420
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1421
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: It's like if you look the part so why I like,

1422
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: it's why I like fascism moves through the like aesthetic

1423
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: of fascism whatever. I won't get into that, you know

1424
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like that is like that is like

1425
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 2: the literal front line, and so dangly earring, It's like, well,

1426
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 2: let the person do a dangly earring and then that

1427
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: might that will be like the locust, the inflaction point

1428
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: for something else. The dangly earring is the bridge to

1429
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: something else.

1430
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: Y yeah, Or if it's not, they're at least the

1431
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: type of person that would be willing to walk on

1432
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: the bridge and then walk back to the other side.

1433
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 3: Like I like people who are open to the idea

1434
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: that they could be different than how they are and

1435
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: then be like no, I think I'm I'm good.

1436
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm good. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Like

1437
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: one time there was someone in my life who was

1438
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: then not in it anymore, and a friend of mine,

1439
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: in commiserating about this person, was like, and they wore

1440
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 1: those stupid turquoise earrings.

1441
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 5: Well, we can do that with our friends, and I remember,

1442
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: I remember afterwards, I was like, now I feel a

1443
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: little bad because I think the turquoise earring was kind

1444
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 5: of fun.

1445
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: There's so many things to talk about this person, about

1446
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: the way they act and about they are. But retris

1447
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: hearing actually made me pity that that person, because I

1448
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, but that you know, sometimes people think

1449
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: like I know who I am and so I'm dressing

1450
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: this way. But a lot of people are like, I'm

1451
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: gonna try dressing this way because hopefully I get encouragement

1452
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: and then I can be more who I am. And

1453
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: perhaps if that was encouraged in a specific type of person,

1454
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: then they wouldn't be horrible, h very thought provoking. Thank

1455
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: you for really, But.

1456
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 3: Then also like you can be dunking on nasty people

1457
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 3: with your friends about what they're wearing, but the like

1458
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: just so let's rememberah, some clothes are ugly culture.

1459
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: I do think so some clothes. Yeah, well that was

1460
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: And I know I'm so interested after we end, because

1461
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: not everyone gets to know everything about what your other

1462
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: out of thinks. Honeys are yes if they're structured like that.

1463
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to tell you. I hope that might

1464
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,480
Speaker 3: be my ick. Actually you might hear this and be like, no,

1465
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 3: do you mean so we'll find out? Yeah, they don't

1466
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: get to I don't. I trust you.

1467
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. And because we've established trust through through

1468
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: connection through a Spotify song and a live performance. That,

1469
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: by the way, yes, was by far the highlight of

1470
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: that show for us.

1471
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 3: I mean for me too, since I mean you did

1472
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: the whole show. I only did that one moment, so

1473
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: it's my favorite.

1474
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: For rehearsal the day before it happened them in a

1475
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: lot to us, that was a crazy week for a

1476
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 2: lot of love.

1477
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 3: You did something amazing. By the way, I was like, oh,

1478
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 3: you ask me to do something. I like you. I'll

1479
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 3: do what you have asked. And then I showed up

1480
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: and you put on a real like it was really

1481
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: an award show. I did not know what I was

1482
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: walking into and it was like so funny, way more

1483
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: interesting than most award shows. You give give an award to.

1484
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: From a Grammy winner okay.

1485
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, from an award haver to an award deserver.

1486
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. You were You're the best. And honestly

1487
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: that that really it was like from inception of that,

1488
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: of that idea of the of the in absentia to

1489
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: then doing it. I just remember us being at the

1490
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: end and after you came out and like that being

1491
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: like I felt like we did it because that part

1492
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: went so exactly. It was just like such a highlight

1493
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: for us.

1494
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: Well, damn, forever's it feeling the archives by stream, watch

1495
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: the videos.

1496
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: Get the vinyl. Get the vinyl.

1497
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's coming out in December. Actually, here's something else,

1498
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 3: Like I would have done this without promoting something.

1499
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: We would have obviously had you on without you and

1500
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: promoting something. It was a matter of time.

1501
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I love that.

1502
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 1: We love you.

1503
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: We'll get dinner with Katie. Yeah, if you can stand

1504
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: me after these other Lucy.

1505
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: We're already obsessed. We don't have to go to supervid

1506
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: and we can go work and go wherever we do

1507
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: have to go to all time. Okay, just kidding. We

1508
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: don't have to go all the time. We end every

1509
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: episode with the song Oh don't.

1510
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 7: Want to close myss how uniful sleep because I miss

1511
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 7: your babe, and A doll want missive because even.

1512
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 3: When a dream.

1513
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 1: Never do last to miss you babe, and A don't

1514
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: want to missive. If you want to hear that, listen

1515
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: to all of our songs.

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Speaker 3: If what's only those happening, I would have practiced Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Accessible Last Culture Reaches is the production by Will Ferrell's

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Speaker 2: Big Money Players and The Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Anna Has and used by beccar Ramo,

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Speaker 1: Henrik Mursky. Yeah