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Speaker 1: What's that add it's spooky and joky.

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Speaker 2: I'm really sure it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's coming, it's a way Wait a minute, I said, nandas.

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Speaker 2: Pllease hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez. If you know around here, it's me Roz.

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Speaker 2: I like to talk to people that are funny, famous, spooky,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of people about all things paranormal. I'm joined

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Speaker 2: today by a friend of mine who you may know

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Speaker 2: from all kinds of stuff. If you got a TV

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Speaker 2: you've seen her Busy Phillips, probably seen her on Cougartown.

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Speaker 2: I mean I see her in commercials, Girls five Eva,

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Speaker 2: her own talk show Busy Tonight. She's all over the place,

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Speaker 2: and she's been on the show before. Now here's the

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Speaker 2: deal with that. I like to have people that I

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Speaker 2: like on multiple times. Of course, if you know, schedule

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Speaker 2: to have her back. She's busy, she's booked and busy,

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Speaker 2: so she's come on before. She's told her ghost stories,

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Speaker 2: which are epic, and since we already got to all those.

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Speaker 2: When I have these kinds of people on that have

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Speaker 2: already told their stories, or if they don't have stories,

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Speaker 2: I like to prepare stuff, and this episode has it all. Honey.

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Speaker 2: We got Paltergeist, we got ghost voices, we got UFOs,

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Speaker 2: and Busy comes in right at the end with a

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Speaker 2: psychic story of her own. So let's just get right

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Speaker 2: into it. Here is me talking once again, and with

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Speaker 2: Busy Phillips, and with the show. I am joined by

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Speaker 2: the best eyebrows in the business, my friend Busy Phillips. Hello,

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Speaker 2: I'm here a repeat customer. I was just looking it

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Speaker 2: up when you were on this podcast April of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: It was the first one once the pandemic had hit,

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Speaker 2: and I was trying to figure out how do I

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Speaker 2: everyone was kind of like we do now. Actually, as

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Speaker 2: I was listening to it, there was a Moment's so

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Speaker 2: it's so sad to listen to, but there was a

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Speaker 2: moment in the intro where I was like, yeah, guys,

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone's doing well, but it sounds like according

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Speaker 2: to the news, things are getting better soon. Like this

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Speaker 3: No, nothing makes me sadder than the hopefulness of those

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Speaker 3: early weeks of thedemac like people. I was never hopeful,

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Speaker 3: I have to say, like I like I truly always

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Speaker 3: be the next a long time of our lives. Like

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Speaker 3: I just had this feeling about it. Well because I'm psychic,

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Speaker 3: but but I remember having friends that were like, it

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Speaker 2: That was an interesting time because it was very slumber

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Speaker 2: party vibes for like that first week, sure, and.

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Speaker 3: The first month, I would say, the first month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, And people just like you who are so

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Speaker 2: busy were punattended, were available to talk to me about ghosts.

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Speaker 2: And I was having the time of my life because

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Speaker 2: the stories that you have, you have like beginning, middle

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Speaker 2: and listen, skip the intro, skip any of the pandemic stuff,

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Speaker 2: just listen to busy stories.

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Speaker 3: Because we sound like idiots because we have no idea

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Speaker 2: But you told a story about when you lived in

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Speaker 3: I believe my summer in Oxford with a ghost a

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Speaker 2: And then also I remember your story about somewhere in

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Speaker 3: To North Carolina. I had a ghost there. What were

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Speaker 3: you shooting Dawson's Creek?

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Speaker 3: It is kind of iconic. I have to say, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't have the same thing in New York City,

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Speaker 3: I just don't get like ghosty vibes.

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Speaker 2: This has come up so many times because I talked

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Speaker 3: I had to go to Westchester. It's I needed space.

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Speaker 2: But you could also argue that there's so much energy

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Speaker 3: it's it should feel there should be places that feel

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Speaker 2: gotta go. I'm on the move. I'm not sticking around spooking' yet.

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Speaker 2: I got places to be. It's the city that never sleeps.

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Speaker 3: It is the city that never sleeps. So the ghosts

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Speaker 2: Haunt the New England ones? They're like, this is majestic,

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Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Right, So you're in New York right now?

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Speaker 3: No, right now, I'm actually in Los Angeles. You are,

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm here for well, I'm here for like

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Speaker 1: Busy.

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Speaker 2: I used to see you all the time. I haven't

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Speaker 3: I know. Well, it's crazy. I moved during the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: Unexpected moving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was recently on my favorite murder and

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Speaker 2: time I was on your old property and encountered a murderer.

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Speaker 3: You and Sam thwarted the murderer from coming to my home.

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Speaker 2: Yes, me and my best friend Sam Pancake For.

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Speaker 3: That, I'm eternally grateful you like essentially saved my life.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, honestly, I don't want to I

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Speaker 2: I was the first one to see him, so if

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Speaker 2: We were watching Roupall's drag Race. I'm wandering my eyes

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying, and I go.

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Speaker 2: Sam, there's a man right there.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'll give Sam credit because he was definitely the brave

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Speaker 3: He took control of the situation.

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Speaker 2: He did he did. All I did was see it.

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Speaker 2: And then Sam was like, hey, what do you what's

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Speaker 2: murder but shoot him away. And then, very unfortunately, he

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Speaker 3: Not like a direct The neighbor was in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was the next store neighbor or whatever.

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Speaker 3: and it was horrifying. My family and I were not

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Speaker 2: I mean he didn't jump out, but well, he.

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Speaker 3: Like climbed out of the window.

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Speaker 2: No, I think we stayed inside.

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Speaker 3: You didn't get out of the house. Oh my. In

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Speaker 2: He did a barrel roll, barrel rolled.

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Speaker 3: No, but he did give him a bottle of water

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I did read online a neighbor saying.

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Speaker 3: That because that was how they got the guy. Was

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Speaker 3: the DNA from that? Oh my god, So all of

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Speaker 3: this to say, like you and I were talking, this

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Speaker 2: And it's terrible, terrible, very scary. And then I house

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Speaker 3: And every time I don't think that house was haunted.

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Speaker 2: No I don't either, but every time I heard a

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Speaker 3: He's back?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was so on edge. But anyway, can we talk

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: I have one of my favorite kinds of stories to

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Speaker 2: share with you. A poltergeist, a poulterry eyed. Do you

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Speaker 2: know that I like a poultry guys, because there's no

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Speaker 3: No, it's just teenage energy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I like that, you know that. So this is

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Speaker 2: a famous case that took place in Indianapolis. It's the

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Speaker 2: Beck family. So most of the research I did came

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Speaker 2: from a twenty eighteen piece in the South Side Times

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Speaker 2: by Rick Hinton, And this case here was nineteen sixty two, Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: The house in question is a four bedroom, two bathroom

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Speaker 3: Beck moves in by the way side note, Renata is

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Speaker 3: a fucking great name.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 4: She spelled it r e Nate chic I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure people mess that up a lot. I

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Speaker 2: feel bad for that because people probably.

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Speaker 3: Like Renee a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so poor Renato, she's already dealing with that. And

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Speaker 2: then she moves in to this house. She's a thirty

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Speaker 2: got her sixty one year old mother whose name was Lena,

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Speaker 2: which is another name I love. Lena was originally from Germany.

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Speaker 2: And then she's got her thirteen year old daughter, Linda.

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Speaker 2: And this is this is early sixties, so this was

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Speaker 2: So back to Linda, Lina and Ranata. So this poor

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Speaker 3: They saw the crystals flying.

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Speaker 2: They saw it all wow, is what they say.

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Speaker 2: So they grab their car keys and they book it

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm confused. So they just were like they came back,

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Speaker 3: the Poltergeist is still poltergeistang and they were like shrug emoji.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, like we just have to live with us. Well,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like the entire house was just everything's

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Speaker 2: inches away from turning her into a Grandma machiato. So

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Speaker 2: naturally they call the police. It's funny because all these

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Speaker 4: Who do you call thosebs? Well, this is nineteen sixty two,

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Speaker 2: So a sergeant John Mullen comes over and he assesses

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Speaker 2: ladies and Ranada's like, girl, sergeant, this crystal glass and

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Speaker 2: this beer steying here, like these are collectibles we did

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Speaker 2: And he's like, Okay, it's probably like a pellet gun

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's a high fi stereo that's emitting sound

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sure. And they're literally like okay, great, Yeah, you've

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Speaker 2: all these stories. The papers pick it up. Locals are

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Speaker 3: I do think that once the papers pick it up,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and people are like, we want to see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They also no camera phones even exist it back then,

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Speaker 2: Like true, and that's why so many of these stories.

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Speaker 2: It's like we kind of just have to take people's word.

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Speaker 3: Well, and we know that people are tear like most

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Speaker 3: So who even knows, Yeah, except for all my ghost

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Speaker 2: Right, And Sam Pancake jumped out of the window, and.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't there. I know for some reason, I

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Speaker 2: I guess, no, I don't think whatever. Okay, So so

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Speaker 2: by checking this out. A cop heard a crash coming

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Speaker 2: All three ladies report being bitten, punctured, and bruised by

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Speaker 3: That's insane, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Granny and Lena at one point claimed that she got

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Speaker 2: choked out by something. What Renata's purse went missing at

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Speaker 2: one point with one hundred and twenty five I have

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Speaker 2: American dollars in it. Then mysteriously it reappeared at the

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Speaker 3: Same. She also she just also didn't know how much

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say, I mean, it could be someone

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Speaker 3: Amazing here, let me share my audio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a real recording of the rapping

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think that coffee the police can have

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Speaker 3: Uh wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the wrapping that they heard from that Carltergeist.

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Speaker 3: That's very similar to the rap that my best friend

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Speaker 2: We got that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So moving on, So they call their friend who's

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Speaker 2: and he investigates the house with his wife. They say

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Speaker 3: Ooh, okay, all right, poultergeist.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this before, but I'll say it again

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Speaker 3: You could vacuum, vacuum underneath the sofa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, were you helping them when they moved in? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they probably needed help getting all that shit

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Speaker 3: Yes, where were you then, poltergeist?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? So the cops seem to have been, you know,

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Speaker 2: she's just like having a nervous breakdown. Like it's not

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Speaker 3: I also might start throwing things like ooh, you want

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Speaker 3: to throw things?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I let's throw things exactly exactly. I'll show you

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Speaker 3: Yes, I get the inclination. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they end up arresting Granny Lena for falsifying a

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, not Granny Lena.

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Speaker 2: Now, I bet Ranada. As they're arresting her mom, she's

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Speaker 2: probably like, yeah, also, can you batter down and see

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Speaker 2: if she's got that eighty dollars that mysteriously disappeared?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it was uh Lena, gran Granny Lena.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the interesting thing. This is a little sad.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know. This story is so mysterious.

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Speaker 2: But they end up making a deal with her that

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Speaker 2: back to Germany because that's where she's originally from. So

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Speaker 2: they do send her back. You know, she they dropped

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of things might lead us to believe

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Speaker 2: the time and that stirred stuff up, and once the

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that hard to tell.

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Speaker 2: So what do you what's your conclusion based on what

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Speaker 3: That granny and Lena was fucking miserable and hated living

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Speaker 3: with her daughter and her teenage granddaughter and wanted to

438
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: go back to the old country, and.

439
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: So she made all this up so that she could

440
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: get sent back.

441
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think she just thought if she made like

442
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: enough chaos that somehow it would change the situation, and

443
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: it did.

444
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe she didn't think that if I

445
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: fake being a poltergeist and get caught fed.

446
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes, I don't know if she thought.

447
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: I think she was just I think it was just chaos, right,

448
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: I think the goal was chaos.

449
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: She succeeded.

450
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: Also, sixty one is not that old, oh.

451
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I know. And the way that like the stuff I

452
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: was reading online was like her elderly mother. I'm like,

453
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: come on.

454
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: Sixty one though, in nineteen sixty two is kind of old.

455
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: I guess it's a different sixty one, you know what.

456
00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm about to turn.

457
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: We the era of there's no such thing as like

458
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: little old grannies, and like eighty year old women are

459
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: fucking hot at this point. Yes, So that's the story

460
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: of the Beck family Poultergeist of Indianapolis.

461
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: I don't know that one.

462
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: Okay, I got one that might turn that frown upside down?

463
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: Have you been following this news story? Now we are

464
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: recording this, you know, a couple weeks before this airs,

465
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: But this has been a news story in recent times

466
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: about this family in Las Vegas with the UFO.

467
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: No, but I love it.

468
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: So, Okay, I don't want to sound like you and

469
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: I did the first week of the pandemic, where you know,

470
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: news changes and whatever, So I will say this is

471
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: a developing story at this very moment. But what I

472
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: think is the most interesting about this story is just

473
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: the initial report because things have come in later, because

474
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: this did become a big news story and whatever. So

475
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: it's developing, yes, but it first took place on May

476
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: one of twenty twenty three. This family in Las Vegas.

477
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: They've got a couple of sons. The one son, Angel,

478
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: who's sixteen, has a YouTube channel. It's called Alien Society

479
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: fifty one, which he only has one video on it,

480
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: and he put it up after this became a news story,

481
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: just to like tell his side of the story. So

482
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: pretty much every news outlet has covered this a little bits.

483
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: This is the kind of news that I really pay

484
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: attention to like. Of course, at this point, I'm just like,

485
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: don't ask me about certain things. I want to talk

486
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: about this. So it's midnight Las Vegas, hot as can be.

487
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: He's fixing his truck in his backyard and he hears

488
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: something from the sky. It's falling, and he sees a

489
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: bright light and he says that he hears and feels

490
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: a big impact on the ground, just like a bumple. Now,

491
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: there was a body cam that came out, like a

492
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: video from a body cam that came out that showed

493
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: something falling from the sky, but it has been debunked

494
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 2: by the American Meteor Society as being a meteor.

495
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's not the same thing.

496
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: Well or is it? Could it have all happened? I

497
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, I'm trying to argue all sides

498
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: because we really don't know this kind of stuff. The

499
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: fun part is that we just who knows, because the

500
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 2: stuff that's the most mysterious and interesting is what this

501
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: family has said. So anyway, the initial story, he says

502
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: that he's in his backyard, his vision starts getting blurry,

503
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: and he hears footsteps coming toward him. He sees like

504
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: an eight foot tall creature with gray greenish skin. It's

505
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: got weird looking feet in a big mouth.

506
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: That's insane.

507
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: His dad also sees it, and his brothers. Then he

508
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: looks at it in the eyes and he says, he

509
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: freezes like he had sleep paralysis. I could argue he

510
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: just went into shock. He says. You could see its

511
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: mouth breathing, you could see its stomach moving. He ran

512
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: into the house and he made a nine one one call.

513
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: And this is the nine one one call.

514
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh well, this is great now, I love this.

515
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: I got this from ABC seven Chicago. Was just like

516
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: one of the many many outlets stop played this, But

517
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: this is a real nine one one call from this

518
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: sixteen year old.

519
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: Okay, what's going on over there? Okay, lady, Me, my

520
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: dad and my brother. We're working at a truck at

521
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: our backyard and we have a big lot. I was like, right, correct, Okay,

522
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: we were working and we just see in a corner

523
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: company fold on from the sky and it was with

524
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: light and when it hit down, it was like a

525
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: big impact and we feel like an energy and then

526
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: and then and then we hear like a lot of

527
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 5: footsteps near us, and then we have a big, a

528
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: big equipment, and we see and then there's a there's

529
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: like an a fool person beside it and another one

530
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: decide and it has big eyes. They're looking at us

531
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: and it's still good. Okay, where is this on your property?

532
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: In my backyard? I swear to God, this is not

533
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 5: a dope. This is actually were So.

534
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: There's two people or two subjects that are in your backyard.

535
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: Correct, And they're very large, they're like a fool nicety food.

536
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: I don't know they're they're like they look like iliots. Well,

537
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: big eyes. They have big eyes like like I can't excited,

538
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: and big mouth. They're tiny eyes, and and they're not

539
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: human the one hundred percent they're not humans.

540
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is anothering going back to Lena. You

541
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: can get arrested for falsifying a report like he is, like, listen, lady,

542
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: this is my favorite part. Let me just hear that again.

543
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: Okay, what's going on over there?

544
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Okay, lady, my dad, Okay, lady, Okay, lady lady. So

545
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: they then go in their living room they're not going

546
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: back outside, and they hear footsteps on the roof, they

547
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: hear whispering outside. Their neighbors believe them. The cops come over,

548
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: and the cops are like, actually, we heard this from

549
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: other people in the neighborhood that there was this crash

550
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: or this you know thing. But I think these are

551
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: the only people that reported actually seeing the people, and

552
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: this poor family they've been like in hiding in their house,

553
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: not going anywhere doing interviews or whatever because people are

554
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: just like threatening them and saying this is all a hoax,

555
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: and they're like, no, it's like this happened to us. Like, sorry,

556
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: it happened to us.

557
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: We saw what we saw.

558
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: Now, I always try to come up with, you know,

559
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: different possibilities for things. Could it be that these were

560
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: a couple of new members of the Blue Man Group

561
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: show at the lux Or and they were running late

562
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: for a performance. They got lost, Sure, this is Vegas

563
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: and they were just trying to be like, hey, how

564
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: do you get to the Luxore? And they had their

565
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: makeup on. It's just a theory. I'm working on it.

566
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: It's a developing story.

567
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: They crashed, they were driving erradically late for the show.

568
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: But is there anyone in the Blue Man Group that's

569
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 3: eight to ten feet tall? Now I'm googling because I

570
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: because I had to know.

571
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Still still you know they're into all that shit.

572
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: Sure, I don't know. Bertie just told me a thing

573
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: the other night about the existence of UFOs because like,

574
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: these kids know everything and they're so much smarter than

575
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: anyone my age. Yeah.

576
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, a fifteen year old in twenty twenty

577
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: three definitely knows more than me.

578
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: And now a fifteen year old in twenty twenty three

579
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: is the equivalent of like a thirty year old in

580
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty two.

581
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

582
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: Bertie would have walked into that house and been like, uh, Grimalina, Yeah,

583
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: get back to Germany.

584
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 2: You're the col prit Hey, you want to hear some

585
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: ghosts voices? Yes, it's time for EVP or ev plicse.

586
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: So this is a segment I do. You did this

587
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: three years ago with me. Basically what I do is

588
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: I go to social media YouTube wherever. People can also

589
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: send them to me at ghosted Bows at gmail dot com,

590
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: and I find evp's electronic voice phenomena. These are believed

591
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: to be ghosts speaking captured on some kind of recording device.

592
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: People upload them. I got two of them for you,

593
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: and we're going to try to figure out what we

594
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: think they say.

595
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

596
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: So the first one comes from South Texas Haunts on YouTube,

597
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: and it's at the old Nuisis County Courthouse in Corpus Christi, Texas. Okay,

598
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: what is this ghost saying?

599
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, one more? One more call me name? O't

600
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: call me? Saying wait, hold on, tell you return. Call shifting,

601
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: call shling, call shling, call shling, cautioning, cautioning, cautioning.

602
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that's not what they thought. I'm gonna give

603
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: you four options here, and one of these.

604
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: I like cautioning. I think that's what it's saying. Okay,

605
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: what do they think.

606
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: It's one of these options? Is it a I'll lose weight? Honestly,

607
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: it sounds like that. Listen, I'll lose weight.

608
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: I don't hear that. I don't hear that.

609
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, is it b oh? That was quick? Is it

610
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: C come this way?

611
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's good?

612
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: Or d oh yes, queen?

613
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: Okay, play it one more time cautioning. I think they

614
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: thought it was come with me.

615
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: Yes, they believe that it was C come this.

616
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Way, yeah, come this way, right. I actually hear more

617
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: like come with me, yeah, But now we know that

618
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: it's really cautioning. Listen to oh yes, oh yes, queen.

619
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I hear gosh queen, Gosh yes Queen, same

620
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: YouTube channel, South Texas Haunts.

621
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: They also have one at a haunted Texas hospital. I

622
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: didn't say which one, but a haunted Texas hospital. What

623
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: is it saying? Okay, this is a very different kind

624
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: of voice.

625
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: It's just that's not a voice that was just like

626
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: someone like knocking them up microphone, like a bark.

627
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a bark for sure.

628
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: It a.

629
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

630
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: Ice cream? I hear ice cream?

631
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, ice cream. Funny you say that because that is

632
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: one of these options here. Yes, is a ice cream. Yes,

633
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: b ask me see nice scream you like when your

634
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 2: friend has an iPhone crack screen. You're like nice scream

635
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: or d yes Queen. I'm sorry these Texas queens.

636
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: It's yes, Queen, Yes Queen, Yes, yes Queen, it's definitely

637
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: yes queen. Or ice cream.

638
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: They believe it's ice cream?

639
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: Ice cream? Yes Queen. Yeah.

640
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do one last thing now. This could take

641
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: us into all kinds of directions, and I'm really excited

642
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts and some of these things. I'm

643
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: just gonna list off some unexplained phenomena stuff that's on

644
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: this topic, and I want you to tell me if

645
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: you believe in it. You don't if you have an

646
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: anecdote of some sort of anything that comes up. Okay,

647
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: so first up, psychics, tell me about it.

648
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent, I'm psychic.

649
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Now why do you say that you're psychic?

650
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm very intuitive, but sometimes I just

651
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: know things are gonna happen. I say, like, you know,

652
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: I just am or I sort of like see things

653
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: in the future. And then I have a lot of

654
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: I have like a lot of like really psychic connections

655
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: with people, you know, like the kind of thing. Some

656
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: people don't have these things, which is weird, right, It's

657
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: weird to me when people don't have it. Like I

658
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: text a thing that someone's like, I was literally just

659
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: about to text you this exact question, do you know

660
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like that kind of thing. But close friends,

661
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: like it only is with people that I'm really close with.

662
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: I have a lot of that stuff where I feel

663
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: like I can almost i don't know, predict or communicate

664
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: with people without having to talk to them that I'm

665
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: close with. And then we're like, oh yeah, no, that's

666
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: in my head. I'm like, oh, that's already been decided

667
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: because you know what I mean, I'm really woo. I'm

668
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: really wo wo.

669
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: I love that. A lot of it is just like intuition, and.

670
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's like, I guess that's the thing, like, you know,

671
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: people who have trauma have a tendency to be able

672
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: to go into any room and sort of like figure

673
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: out personalities and types of people and where the safety

674
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: is and who's hiding. I mean, that's the kind of

675
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: thing like that I'm so good at, is reading people,

676
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: and so I think it kind of translates to energy

677
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: in general in a way. Does that make sense?

678
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: You know what? I think? I think that as we

679
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: are animals and we all have animal instincts, all these

680
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: other animals are constantly on the lookout for their praise,

681
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, correct, but we ignore it a lot of time.

682
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: And I think everyone has this. It's just we're conditioned.

683
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: Well, you're taught to ignore, but you're also taught to

684
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: ignore it because of capitalism and the patriarchy and white supremacy.

685
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, it pretty much all comes down to that.

686
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: It always does. But that's the craziest thing is that

687
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: like all of it comes down to, like white supremacy,

688
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: toxic masculinity, the patriarchy and capitalism, and like, you know,

689
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: anytime you hear did you ever read the story of

690
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: Debbie Harry getting away from Oh my god, who's the

691
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: serial killer Ted Bundy? She was picked up by Ted Bundy?

692
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't know this story Debbie Harry from Blondie,

693
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: So what's what's the story?

694
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god. The story was that she just had

695
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: a bad feeling immediate and knew it like and followed

696
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: her gut and like started kicking the car window with

697
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: her giant platform shoes, which was the only reason why

698
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: she accepted a ride anyway, was because she was wearing

699
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: really giant platform shoes and her feet were really uncomfortable,

700
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: and it was San Francisco, and against her better judgment,

701
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: accepted a ride from this guy that she like immediately

702
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: thought was creepy before she even like basically like as

703
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: soon as she got in and she thought he was creepy,

704
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: and then she kicked started kicking the windows and he

705
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: like pulled over and let her out. And then when

706
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: he was caught not long after that, she was like,

707
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: that was the guy picked me up. Listen. Here's the

708
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: thing too, is that so rarely as humans are we like,

709
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: if you're a person who's able to get back in

710
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: touch with that thing and trust your instincts and follow

711
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: them always, you may never know what you've avoided, because

712
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: it may not be a situation like a Ted Bundy

713
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: or a situation like a horrible, huge thing, right, but

714
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: it could have been a thing that changed your life

715
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: forever in a terrible way, or was information that you

716
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: didn't need, or you'll just never know. You just never know,

717
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: And so I always err on the side, and I

718
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: tell my kids to also. I have to say this

719
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: as a woman, that idea of being polite which was

720
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: so ingrained in generations of women because again patriarchy and whatever.

721
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: I really have broken myself of that. But I was

722
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: even me at a time. There was a time in

723
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: my life, like in my twenties probably and definitely my

724
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: teens and twenties where I do think I suppressed those

725
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: feelings because I didn't want to seem rude to someone.

726
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: And I always ask my like, I'm like internally always

727
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: asking myself question like if I'm getting like a bad

728
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: vibe from someone, and if it is a person of color.

729
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: For instance, I'm like, wait, is your bad vibe because

730
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: of internalized racism that you're not even like aware of,

731
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: like really busy, like break it the fuck down. You

732
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: have to be able to do all of those things

733
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: though in like three and a half seconds. It's so

734
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: layered and it's complicated and like we have all of

735
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 3: these like conflicting things that have been put in us

736
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: since birth in this culture, right, but like a huge

737
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: one is not listening to your instincts.

738
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I've been dealing with this a lot on dating apps.

739
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: I've had one time where I didn't listen to myself

740
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: and the guy was a creep see and I and

741
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: but there was things that I knew I should I

742
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: they were red flags for me, but I was like,

743
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: what is hot? And he's six foot two.

744
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: I will say, just because of our society and our culture,

745
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: it is hard to stay engaged, truly engaged with your

746
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: tuition and your innermost knowing about all things. And the

747
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: more that like people can like try to figure out

748
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: how they're able to reconnect with it. I do think

749
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: the better off and the safer everyone is well.

750
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: On the topic of psychics, you talked to the iconic

751
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: Teresa Caputo.

752
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: We did talk to Teresa Caputo. She didn't have anything

753
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: good to say to me. I just have to say that.

754
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: No psychics have nothing to say to me. My my

755
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: dead loved ones are like, we're good, we say goodbye.

756
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: We don't we're not coming through anything.

757
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: I had, nobody I had. Wait, I have a good

758
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: story for you. Oh, here we go, I really do.

759
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying to. Okay. So Shintira Jackson, who was a

760
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: writer on my late night talk show IRIP Busy Tonight,

761
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: at some point in the fall of twenty twenty, reached

762
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: out to me and was like, this is so weird.

763
00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: But her partner had given her a re with a

764
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: medium for her birthday, and in the reading at the end,

765
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: the medium was like, her name is Jamie. Was like,

766
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. There's someone else that's here that's not

767
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: for you. But they've been very insistent. Do you have

768
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: a friend whose name is Elizabeth but nobody calls her that.

769
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: They call her like something else. Oh God, Okay, it's

770
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: not Lizzie. It's like, uh, Bizabeth, Lila Beet, Lillabet, Bizabeth

771
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: Lilla Bet. And she has a tattoo on her foot.

772
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: That's funny, and she and Tira is like, well, I

773
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: have a friend named Buzy whose name is Elizabeth. I

774
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: don't know if she has a tattoo on her foot. Oh,

775
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: I have a tattoo on my foot that says fuck them.

776
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: So the medium's like, here's the rule of mediumship. If

777
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: another spirit like comes through or someone else, it's her

778
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: responsibility to then get in touch with that person and

779
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: say it has come through for you. But by the way,

780
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: I want to be really specific, because a skeptic could say, well,

781
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: obviously the lady knew that. She wrote I'm busy tonight.

782
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: You posted your foot tattoo like when you got it done. Whatever. Yeah, yeah,

783
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: here's what I want to say. No one and nowhere

784
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: have I ever said that. My grandmother refused to call

785
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: me busy and only called me Lilibet or Bizabeth, those

786
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: two exact names. Whoa because she specifically didn't say busy

787
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: and she said Lilibet or Bizabeth. My grandma did not

788
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: like busy, thought it was not a befitting nickname. Was

789
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: always trying to get me to go by Lillabet, which

790
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: is insane.

791
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: What did she what was she trying to tell? Shantira.

792
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: Then I had this whole session with Jamie.

793
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: She was basically just saying, at your friends, reading like

794
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: this woman's coming through and she wants to talk to me.

795
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: Apparently my grandma and shan Tira's grandma had been like

796
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: kicking it in the spiritual realm.

797
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're probably watching the show together.

798
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: I guess that maybe that's how they met. Like I

799
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: don't know, but they were like hanging and they were

800
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: it was like they were having a laugh, and my

801
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: grandma really just wanted to like make contact with me.

802
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: And here's what I'll say too, that for a couple

803
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: years prior to that, I started finding these pennies on

804
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: the ground all the time. And for a while I

805
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: was like, this is so weird. What is this? And

806
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: then I remembered at a certain point that like my

807
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: grandma used to sing pennies from Heaven to me. She

808
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: had like a couple songs that she loved that involved pennies.

809
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: I know that sounds insane, but she was like, you know,

810
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: from the depression era. I don't know, they talked about

811
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: pennies a lot. That's all they had anyway. And so

812
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: at a certain point I was like, I feel like

813
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: these pennies are from Moot. That's what we called my

814
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: grandma Moot. I feel like these pennies are from Moot.

815
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: And my mom was always like, well, of course the

816
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: pennies are from the Moot's just sending you a little

817
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: sign saying I. Then I went like a step further

818
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: in my thought process and I decided that like the

819
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: pennies meant that I was like on the right path,

820
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: and when I didn't see them I was, I would

821
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: get really like bummed about my life choices or whatever.

822
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: So anyway, in this reading that Jamie did, my grandma

823
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: just wanted to like check in, tell me I was

824
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: on the right path, tell me I was doing the

825
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: right things. That the pennies are obviously from her. Come

826
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: on crazy, you know she's like, pennies are from me?

827
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, yeah, that was me.

828
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: Obviously it's me. But then Jamie, you should have Jamie

829
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 3: on the show. She's what's her name, Jamie votes love.

830
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I got to listen to your episode with her.

831
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she said a thing to me and Casey,

832
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: who I do my podcast with. Now, this is crazy,

833
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: given the last week and a half, two weeks of

834
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: the world. She said that orcas will be a sign

835
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: and that when we see the orcas will.

836
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: Know just this is for everyone or for you.

837
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: It was just I mean it was to us, but

838
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: like I don't know, it was I don't know. It

839
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: was just a sign that the orcas. It's whales and

840
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: orcas are the and I remembered wales, but I didn't

841
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: remember Orca's. And then when all the Orca stuff has

842
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 3: been happening in the last two weeks Casey's, She's like,

843
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: are we supposed to be taking down billionaires? What's happening? Like,

844
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: what what is our sign from the orcas?

845
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: You'll know?

846
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: I don't turns out I don't know. Actually weird, I know,

847
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: but it was like very interesting. And then also there

848
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: was like a really specific thing that came through for

849
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: or my mom. It was like from one of her parents.

850
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: It was a story I've never heard, my mother has

851
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: never talked about like's. It was very specific and interesting

852
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: and wild and made me a firm believer in those

853
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: energies coming through.

854
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: You know.

855
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: I talked to a lot of people that are famous

856
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: public figures, whatever, and they always kind of say that

857
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: same thing where it's like, yeah, they picked up on

858
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: the things that everyone knows in the news, you could

859
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: have found that out. And then there's always like the

860
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: good psychics can always find that family member, that nickname,

861
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: that little thing. And I hear that a lot about

862
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Henry, the Hollywood Medium. I hear that about Teresa Caputo.

863
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Good for them.

864
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: I was asked to be on Tyler Henry's show at

865
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: one point, and I would except that, like I'm close

866
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: friends with a famous person who died, you know. I

867
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: was so like, I don't want to go onto that

868
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: show and have it be like Heath Ledger's coming through

869
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: or whatever, like you know what I mean ahead of time,

870
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: Like just no, I think you can't. And the truth is,

871
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: like that's what they want for the show, right right,

872
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 3: I'm not like ros I, I'm not new right. Also,

873
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: it's not a thing that I particularly want to do

874
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 3: on camera.

875
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, totally.

876
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: I mean we recorded it for our podcast with the

877
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: understanding that like we weren't gonna air, and you know

878
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: what I actually have to say, I don't know if

879
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: we aired the reading at all or if we just

880
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: talked about it this podcast.

881
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: I've had multiple psychics over the years that have read

882
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: me on the show, and some things have been accurate

883
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: and some things have not been accurate. And I can

884
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: think of one moment in particular where somebody said I

885
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: asked them about a job and they were like, it's

886
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: not gonna happen, and I was like fuck, and then

887
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: it did happen, and I think I ended up taking

888
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: it out of the episode just in general. But I

889
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: don't know that so many those kinds of questions are tricky,

890
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: the mediumship stuff, when they can really nail down a fact,

891
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: that's that's what I love.

892
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: But the mediumship thing, too was what was so interesting

893
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: to me about Jamie and that it did feel like

894
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 3: the messages were very clear and it wasn't like you're

895
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: going to get a job. It was like your family

896
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: members from the other side are like line and people

897
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: you love are like lining up on the other side

898
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: to say these five things to you. And I did

899
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: it with Casey and it was different for Casey than

900
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: it was for me, you know what I mean, And

901
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: it was and it was just so specific to not

902
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: just me because again like yes, of course, I mean

903
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 3: I am also like an open book, you know, like

904
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 3: I talk a lot about my own self and my life,

905
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 3: but very specific to other people in my family and

906
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 3: very specific to like at the time, I think Mark

907
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: and I were had already decided we were separating, but

908
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: we hadn't told anyone. And there was like a thing

909
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: that she that my grandma said about that Jamie was like,

910
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if this makes sense to you, Like

911
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: she would say like that, you know, like, I don't

912
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: know if this makes sense to you, But this thing,

913
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm like a big believer in energy and putting things

914
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: out into the world and getting it back. And yes,

915
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

916
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, just a couple of these. Okay, now,

917
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: do you believe in UFOs? I don't know if I

918
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: got an exact answer on that.

919
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Sure, I guess ish, I

920
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know. I know, I don't know

921
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: enough to not believe in them.

922
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: What about Bigfoot?

923
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: No?

924
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: No, But so you feel like you know enough to

925
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: know that that's.

926
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: Not Yeah, yeah, that's that's happening. Yeah I do.

927
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing with UFOs as opposed to Bigfoot

928
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: is like UFOs, it's like, well, if we're talking about

929
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: like the universe.

930
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm not entirely sure that we're not ai.

931
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I don't know anything is possible.

932
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: I feel like, do.

933
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: You subscribe to the belief of like demons.

934
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: I think that people's energies can go real dark and

935
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: people can become I think that there's like evil energy

936
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: that can infect people. Yeah, I do. I don't know

937
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 3: if it's I don't know what it is. I think

938
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: it's a dark energy. I think there's definitely that's real.

939
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you've been just a bright energy.

940
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: Well, but that's the trick, right, is that we have

941
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: to like keep trying to bring the light energy.

942
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the darkness doesn't want anything to do with it.

943
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: And right now, I think that there is like a

944
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: lot of dark energy. Like when you talk about poltergeists

945
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: being the offshoot of extreme anger in people and teenagers.

946
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 3: That always resonated with me and made sense to me

947
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: because it is so much energy that a temper tantrum

948
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: of like an adult or a teenager, hormonal teenager is

949
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: able to harness. You know, it feels like it has

950
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: to go somewhere, right, But I just think when I

951
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: get really depressed, which I have been, about the state

952
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 3: of the world, and this country and whatever, all kinds

953
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: of things. I try to remember that the best way

954
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: to combat it is to meet it with positivity, even

955
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: though that is like the hardness.

956
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: You know, well, there's there's only so much we can control.

957
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm the same way. I try to

958
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: make my efforts to.

959
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 3: Make people laugh and spread some joy.

960
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: Spread some joy.

961
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: You do spread so much joy and some scary stories sometimes,

962
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: although I have to say the Poulter guys today.

963
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: Didn't do it for you. No, Well, Busy, I so

964
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: appreciate you doing this again.

965
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: Thanks, honey. I am so happy to tell people where

966
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: to find you everywhere.

967
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 2: You know your podcast.

968
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: I have a podcast called Busy. Phillips is doing her

969
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: best new episodes weekly. We like almost never take breaks

970
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: because we didn't know that that was a thing we

971
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: should do. And I'm on the television show Girls by

972
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: Veva currently love it, among other shows. And that show

973
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: is going to be coming to Netflix in the fall.

974
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: If you missed it because it started on Peacock, you

975
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: can watch the first two seasons on Netflix and then

976
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 3: the third season will be coming out. And what else

977
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: do I deal? So many things? I don't know?

978
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: My Instagram story Instagram stories, ghost stories, psychic stories, psychics,

979
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: all of that, and again, I think people should go

980
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: back and listen to the first time you were on

981
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: because the stories are pretty iconic.

982
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back and listen right now.

983
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: April twenty twenty. Best thing that happened that month. All right, Busy,

984
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: thank you, Thank you so much, too, Busy Phillips got

985
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: a lover. This was a fun episode. This is what

986
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: we do here. So I hope you're enjoying the show.

987
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: Go back and listen to the last time she was on.

988
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: There's been hundreds of episodes at this point of me

989
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: talking to people about the paranormal. We're going to be

990
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: back next week. I can't wait to talk more. Oh,

991
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: I've got so many good ones coming out you, so

992
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: make sure you're following the show. I love you all,

993
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

994
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has

995
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal

996
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and

997
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll even call. So email me at ghosted by

998
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a DM

999
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz.

1000
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me

1001
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on TikTok and

1002
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the

1003
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Alex Chien.

1004
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie

1005
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.

1006
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Crighton.

1007
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.

1008
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 2: Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying

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00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: spooky Georgia hard Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.