1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: When the camera's like we're shaking all around, You're like, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, the place is rocking, and everyone's going ham oh, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: it's I love seeing it. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Well, right after the show yesterday, we got some pretty 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: big news in baseball, so we're going to get into 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: that in one minute. I just want to point this 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: out at the top of the show, I was watching 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: baseball last night. I'm checking out the Mets game. They 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: can't find Pete Alnto. Where's Pete? Did you hear about this? 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: He was late? You got a pitchclock violation. 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: You got a pitchclock violation, you got a poop clock violation. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: I think so, And they were saying on both broadcasts, 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: I think maybe we make an exception if there's a 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: bathroom Missu're going on and he shows up seconds late. 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: The umpires have multiple minute meeting, they make the decision 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: to give the pitchclock violation. Carlos Mendoza, Me's manager, goes 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: out to chat with the umpires. Probably five to seven 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: minutes later, we resume baseball. So I'm glad that we 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: really helped to speed up the game in that moment. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, we were really it was I mean, 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the point was to speed the game up. But he 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: also point was, you know what, it was a defensive 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: clock violation. Hey, if they want to throw the pitch 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: without Pete being out there, throw the pitch. There's no 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: rule that you have to have all your guys out 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: on the field. My favorite part first base coach oh 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Signor Brock at first for the Pirates threw Pete his 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: glove as he was running in like he was reading 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: the option. 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: That's epic. Yeah, Jesse Winker from the dugout doing the 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: thumbs down at the umps. I mean, if you're going 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: to do it and that's your decision, that's fine. I'm 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: super pro pitch clock, but this to me seemed like 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: one of those exceptions where the umpire has discretion and 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: can be like everyone saw the poop Homer video. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: Not only that, but like, just have some feel for life. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: There are times where people have to do that. They 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: have things that come up and you have to use 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: the restroom or whatever Pete was doing. 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: And it doesn't happen often. Right, The fact that I'm 41 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: bringing this up means that it was an outlier. We 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: tweeted about it late last night. So have a feel 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: and if you're going to still make that decision and 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: be a hard ass. Then But if he had. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: To really go or and it was like four pitch 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: clock violations and let to a walk. 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have happened. I mean, if he was 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: really stuck in there, they would have had a problem. 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Stupid's benefits for either team. There's no benefit for either team. 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: It's like a high school team. The bus gets caught 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in traffic and then the umpire is like, nope, got 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: to start the game on time, Like, just have feel, 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: just have feel, let let things happen. He's not trying 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: to do it. It's not like he's well, maybe he's 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: an habitual pooper. Everybody poops, that's what the book says. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: That is true. You know, most people do many times 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: per week. So for Pete, they have a meeting for 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: a long period of time to make a decision on 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: how strict they were going to be. At least, if 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: you're going to be strict, just say it and go. 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: That's it. That's the whole point of the violation. 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: They should have just had a meeting it said, we've 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: all been there, let's give him a minute. Yeah, And 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 3: they could have come up with anything. The umpire could 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: have said he got something in his eye. I mean, 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: there was a million different things he could have come 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: up with instead of a pitchclog violation. 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: If someone was taking advantage of the rule, everyone would 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: know about it, right, Like you know how refs know. Oh, 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: this guy always just tries to take charges, watch out 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: for him. 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: Or flops every time rolls around the ground. 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: If Lebron is rolling on the floor acting like his 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: life just ended, he probably probably happened. Yeah, exactly. He 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: just likes to act as weird. But anyway, for Pete, 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: if he did this every week, everyone would know and 77 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: the umps would be like, we're not doing this, but 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: this is one time, and it happened one other time 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and he swung out the first 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: pitch and on our green. So let's go Pete. 81 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: We're with you. 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: And when Pete comes on soon, we'll have a chat 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: about this. 84 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: Because this is the hopefully he comes on late, hopefully stuff. 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully it comes on late too, because we'll know where 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: it is if he shows up late to the to 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: the call we got told me. 88 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: He come on, we got to call him, Yeah, we 89 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: gotta get him on. So actually, after this and. 90 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: He told me on Saturday that he loved to come on. 91 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: He and been on in for a while and he 92 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: wants to come back on. So we'll get him. 93 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: We got to crack the case here, Pete coming soon. 94 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Charge the amount of time. 95 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: Charge about. 96 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Pete Rose is now eligible to be voted in as 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame member, so are other deceased players 98 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: that were on the league's permanently ineligible list. Pete passed 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: away in September. His oldest daughter and his former lawyer 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: met with Commissioner Manfred in December. Commissioner Manfred had a 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: meeting about a month ago with President Trump, who is 102 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: a big fan of having Pete Rose in the Hall 103 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: of Fame. Add it all up, the Commissioner comes out 104 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: like us kidding. Permanently ineligible actually means that when you 105 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: pass away, you are now back in, reinstated, and able 106 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: to be voted into the Hall of Fame if those 107 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: members in that committee vote you in. Shoeless Joe Jackson 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineteen Black Sox say finally, thank you, Rulis. 109 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Joe's been dead for like seventy five years. 110 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: Ye a long time. 111 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: He's like, wait, you just decided this. I mean, that's 112 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: So why now I'm gonna let crowds go first on 114 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: this one because I'm gonna be give I'm gonna be 115 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: a minute you need to and I'm gonna get my 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: poop on. Once the crowds is done, well, I'm gonna 117 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: let you cook. All I have to say is Manfred's 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: trying to make a name for himself in this. I 119 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: think he had some manipulations from people that I'm sure 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: AJ is going to talk about. But you know what, 121 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: I guess. 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: You know, if if the right people bark up the 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: right tree, you'll get a record to come out of 124 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: the tree at some point. But he is he's made 125 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: this decision. He wants this to be his mark. I 126 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: don't think he thought about it lightly. And every commissioner 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: has some good things that they do for the game, 128 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: some bad things they do for the game. I'm not 129 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: sure where this stands because there's some other people that 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: haven't gotten into the Hall of Fame yet because of 131 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: the stigma for things that they've done, not necessarily gambling, 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: other things, Barry Bond, Roger Clemens, other steroid guys. But 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: I do believe it's not the Hall of Morality. It 134 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: is the Hall of fame. 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If the writers are going to take a 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: stand and say, you know, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, who 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: never tested positive, by the way, never tested positive, they 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: can't get in, then whoever is on this committee that 163 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: got to elect Pete Rose, Because let's not forget Joe Morgan, 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: who's Pete Rose's teammate for a long time, said oh, 165 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: those guys can't get in because they did steroids. And 166 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: he was like the lead guy in all those committees 167 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: saying they can't get in. So whoever gets to vote 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: on Pete Rose, Let's not forget Pete Rose was not 169 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: exactly clean when he played. And I'm not talking about 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: steroids because I don't know that, but there were other 171 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: things that are now band called greenies and amphetamines that 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: he admitted to. 173 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: But all the guys took them. 174 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: Okay, but there's guys that took him that are in 175 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, right right, and again hall the 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: go ahead. 177 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Sorry cratch no, no, no, no, no, that there's not 178 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: There was other guys that took him, but it's against 179 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: the rules, like it's against the Greenies are against the rules? 180 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Yes or no they are now they weren't at the time. Okay, 181 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: so why yeah, So, like, you can't you can't just 182 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: elect that. I agree with you. You can't just elect 183 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: one thing. Well, this guy took this, so he could 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, he shouldn't be in I agree with you 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: a like totally. 186 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 3: There's there's trust me. There are guys in the Hall 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: of Fame and this is not breaking news that have 188 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: done stuff and they are still in the Hall of Fame. 189 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh they're roid out of my mind, guys that are 190 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. I want to stay on 191 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: task though. 192 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: But okay, so here's my problem with this with with 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: Pete Rose. I have been firmly against this from the 194 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: get go. I've said it on this show, I've said 195 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: it everywhere and anyone that will listen to me that 196 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: I am against him being reinstated when he was originally 197 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: permanently banned. And I've looked it up and it was 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: permanently banned. Okay, permanently that doesn't stop it when you die, right, 199 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: So now they want to say lifetime ban. Okay, like 200 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: you said Scott, where are the black socks? I weren't 201 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: dating because shules Joe Jackson being an army should be 202 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame too. Okay, now, he definitely 203 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: would have been if he didn't get banned and got 204 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: to play a few more years, he'd definitely be in. 205 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: He should be in. 206 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: Then agreed, he should be right in with Pete Rose 207 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: if they gonna put him in. The thing about this 208 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: is scratch. 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: You know this. 210 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: You've been in the clubhouse. You have to read. They 211 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: read you article twenty one, They make you sign an 212 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: article twe like, you're not bet on baseball? Okay, where's 213 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: the repercussions when you do something? What's the repercussion? Well, 214 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: he don't say, oh he died. Now he gets in. 215 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: He still gets in, and he stills permanently there. 216 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: It's like he goes away, but he doesn't get to 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: experience it. He's not alive. 218 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: So what his family gets to experience, sure, and it 219 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: means more to the family, I think for a lot 220 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: of these guys in it does for them. And right, 221 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: so the family gets to celebrate in his legacy gets 222 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: which is fine. He's but you know what you want 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: to do like Pete Rose is the all time hits ler, 224 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds is the all time home runs leader. Put 225 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: him in. Roger Clement says the most this and that, 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 3: and baseballster put him in. Why why are we not 227 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 3: putting him in? Because one guy says no, because they're 228 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: more moral than these other guys allegedly like it's not 229 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: it's it's it's the problem with Article twenty one is 230 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: you have to follow it and you know what it is. 231 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: And the biggest problem you can have in any sport 232 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: is guys betting on baseball and making the taking the 233 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: integrity out of the game. Because I did. I said 234 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: this earlier. I did another show and I said, if betting, 235 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: if somebody got to be betting, and krats, krats, I think, 236 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: go back me up. And let's say I knew the 237 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: over under in a game, okay, and it was. Let's 238 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: say the over under was eight in this game. And 239 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: it's eight nothing in the ninth inning and there's a 240 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: run around third and two outs and I'm catching. I 241 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: just missed one. Guy scores boom. Nobody would have any idea. 242 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: I just I missed one. Sorry, guys, it clanked. It 243 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: just cost me the shutout. But I or one of 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: my buddies has money on this game. They just made 245 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: a lot of money. Like, you can't have the integrity 246 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: of the game questioned at all. That's why this is 247 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: so important. And now to say, oh, well, it's okay, 248 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: he died. And by the way, the us of the 249 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: argument is he bet on every time they won. Okay, 250 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: well the games he did and bet on to win. 251 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: Did he think they were gonna lose? Why did he 252 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: He had to bet on every game? 253 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: Then bet on every game? 254 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: Okay? So then he had to have feelings, he had 255 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: to have inside information. 256 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah he was betting. 257 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: He was not, So you have the integrity of the 258 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: game is number one. Like look at other sports. College 259 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: basketball has had a bunch of them where point shaving 260 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: and this and that. Right, what happens they get kicked out? 261 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: You should like you should not you if you go 262 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: against the integrity of whatever sport you do, any job 263 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: you do, Like if you're insider trading, you should be 264 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: freaking heave hoed yep, because you have outstanding knowledge that 265 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: nobody else has and you can make bets or you 266 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: can help your friends make bets. 267 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: I just want to be clear that the league is 268 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: okay with Barry Bonds and Roger Clements being voted into 269 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. They're eligible, they have not been 270 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: voted in by the writers or the whatever committee. I 271 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: don't know the names of all the committees. But Pete 272 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: Rose is going to have a chance with whatever the 273 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: committee is in December of twenty twenty seven. He's got 274 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: to get twelve out of sixteen votes. Some writers are 275 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: on that panel, a lot of former players are on 276 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: that panel. I'll use one example. Tim Kirkton, who's on 277 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: this show pretty frequently, said that Frank Robinson was a 278 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: dear friend, lake great legend in our s and he said, 279 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: I won't even show up to the Hall of Fame 280 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: ever again if they let Pete in. That's the number 281 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: one rule in all of sports that you cannot violate 282 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: or it makes our sport acting. It completely blurred the lines. 283 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: There's no difference. So for him, he was like, that's 284 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: my hard stance. 285 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: Krats. 286 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: I think a lot of other players feel the same 287 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: way like AJ does. So we're talking about this, and 288 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: the President talked to the commissioner into switching the rule, 289 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: and the commissioner playing judge. That's fine. That was the 290 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: decision that Commissioner Manford Maine. He's trying to please a 291 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: lot of people. He wants to keep the anti trust 292 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: exemption so that MLB can be a monopoly. 293 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: Cool. 294 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Get it. He's a businessman, he's the CEO. That's his job. 295 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: Got it. He took the onus now and pushed it 296 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame, which is fine. 297 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: Right. 298 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: So do you think krats that a committee of former players, 299 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: most of them with a lot of dirt and their spikes, 300 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: are going to vote Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame. 301 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Nope, Okay, I don't think they're going to vote him in. 302 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: I think got less in the next two years. This 303 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: stance somehow softens by everybody just looking at his stats 304 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: and his numbers and what he did in the game. 305 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: That's the only way I see it happening. I don't 306 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: see it happening just because of what AJ says. I 307 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: think the majority of players feel the way AJ does. 308 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: This is why players get pissed off at owners who 309 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: don't try to put a competitive team out on the field, 310 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: who don't care about winning. Because as a player, whether 311 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: you made the big leagues or you almost made the 312 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: big leagues. You cared very much about what happened out 313 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: on the field. You cared very much about the outcome 314 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: of the game. And if there was any kind of 315 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: question that somebody was throwing that game, that somebody would 316 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: had ulterior motives, You're you're just it's like I can't 317 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: even look at it, Like you can't even look at 318 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: it the same you just said what you said about 319 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: being actors. That's all it is. It's just just entertainment, 320 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: just like AJ's belt that he has behind him. It's 321 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: fun entertainment, but it's not a competitive environment. Competition is 322 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: what drives players, and if you allow something like this 323 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: to happen, it just it just feels, it feels disingenuous. 324 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: But what level of grace are we supposed to have 325 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: no crying in baseball? But maybe there's forgiveness. 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: And also, by the way, did Peter Rose ever apologize 327 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: for this? Is he ever before he passed away? Was 328 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: there ever like a sincere, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have 329 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: done this. It was all like to sell a book 330 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: or a movie whatever, Like it was never like a 331 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: And here's the thing that gets me, he accepted this 332 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: he accepted this, he signed it. 333 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing, well because he got caught. 334 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: But he could have fought it. He could have said, oh, 335 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: but he signed the permanent ineligible because he was guilty exactly. Yeah, 336 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: so he knew what he was signing. It's not like 337 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: he signed a paper if you wanted to said, well, 338 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: when I die, maybe I can be come back. Right. No, 339 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: he signed a paper that said I am permanently ineligible, 340 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: and he knew and he played it up too, let's 341 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: not forge you. Yeah, coopercent weekend, Pete's signing autographs in 342 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: oneata right next door, like come on, like he knew 343 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: exactly what he was doing. Of course, I mean he 344 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: played it up. 345 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: But let me ask you this. There are a lot 346 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: of people that want him in because he was a 347 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: big part of their childhood or their fandoms. 348 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: So it was very bond. 349 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: It was Roger Clemons, good point. How if you pulled 350 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: the people, what percentage of baseball fans? Obviously we're just 351 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: playing hypotheticals here, do you think would want Pete Rose 352 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame? A lot, A lot, lot lot, 353 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: I would say over the seventy five percent number, we're 354 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: talking about. I would say probably eighty plus percent, eighty 355 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: eighty five percent. What do you think most people I 356 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: talk to, young or old, are like, yeah, I want 357 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: to mean because also I think a lot of people 358 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: just look at something from a while ago and they 359 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: just they don't care and they just want other people 360 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: to be happy. I'm just presenting the fandom case because 361 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: there are gonna be a lot of people that watch 362 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: this later on and be like, you guys are being 363 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: too strict. You guys are just like the yumps you 364 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: were making fun of at the top of the show. 365 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: Just let him in. He passed away. It's over. 366 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: I disagree. I cannot. I can't disagree more. I just can't. 367 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 368 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: And I can see it through my dad's eyes. My 369 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: dad's favorite player was Pete Rose. Growing up, he wore 370 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: fourteen because of Pete Rose. I wore fourteen because my 371 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: dad wore fourteen like it was that's what That's what 372 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: fans view him as. And I think they hear the 373 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: gambling stuff and they're like, oh man, that's tough. I 374 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: remember how hard he played. I remember when he came 375 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia and became the highest paid athlete in the 376 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: world at the time when he signed with Philadelphia, Like, 377 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: that's what fans remember, and that's fine. As a player, 378 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's hard. I guess we have to 379 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: forgive people, but they also have to ask for forgiveness. 380 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: And Manford's lawyer, so he's just going to play that game. 381 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, after receiving a letter from Pete Rose, 382 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: who was asking for forgiveness, the Commission said, quote, I 383 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: believe that when you bet on baseball, from MLB's perspective, 384 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: you belong on the permanently ineligible list. Fast forward to now, 385 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: he says, in my view, a determination must be made 386 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: regarding how the phrase permanently ineligible should be interpreted. Regarding 387 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: Role twenty one, which involves betting on baseball on the sport, 388 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: he said, Obviously, a person no longer with us cannot 389 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: represent a threat to the integrity of the game. Cool, 390 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: why didn't you make that decision? Many many But it's. 391 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: Not about just what he could do to the game. 392 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: It's about what going forward it could do to the game. 393 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: That's kind of what my point is, Like, I understand 394 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: Pete Rose can't do anything anymore. He's passed away. 395 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he said a new precedent though. He said, 396 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: if you bet on baseball, you are out of the 397 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: game until you die and then come on back in. 398 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: That's what he just He just exactly what he said. 399 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: Manford switched the rule. Now what I this is important? Okay. 400 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: What I would like President Trump to do is have 401 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: another phone call with him and say we need to 402 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: get rid of certain owners in Major League Baseball that 403 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: are ruining the sports. Apparently he does whatever he says, 404 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: so I think he should call him up and be like, hey, dude, 405 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: now that we got that part out of the way, 406 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: I have some other issues. The city of Pittsburgh is 407 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: in tears. We need to fix that problem. Denver Colorado 408 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: showing up but not happy, Let's fix that problem. I mean, clearly, 409 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: Manford just flip flopped his whole career. He was in 410 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: one stance and then just like that one meeting, it changes. Great, 411 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: let's work on some other things. 412 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: Agreed, Agreed. I can't. I don't know this. This gets 413 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: me fired up. I got people from that I know 414 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: from Cincinnati like, oh, Pete's going to get in and 415 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm like why why? Why? And then forty two fifty six, 416 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: whatever it is. I'm like, cool, seven sixty five whatever 417 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: bonds has he ain't in. And when you ask these 418 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: same people, they're like, oh, he shouldn't be a needed 419 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: stir Pete did some stuff too. Now, let's be honest. 420 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: That aren't That isn't legal anymore either. 421 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Hey, Corey Klueber out of the game for what a 422 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: couple of years now is back special assistant pitching guardians 423 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: makes sense. 424 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: That tracks good special assistance. Great job, you can. 425 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: Get one, it is, right. What do you do? 426 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: No one knows, that's the best part about it. Nobody 427 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: really knows what they do. 428 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: What I've heard is you get a phone call and 429 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: they ask you if you want to do something like 430 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: show up to an event or talk to somebody within 431 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: the organization about something, and then they say okay, and 432 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: you get some money for it. 433 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: Is that accurate pretty much? And then you got you 434 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: might have to find and see a minor leaguer every 435 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: once in a while, or a draft prospect or something. 436 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not really a 437 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: it's not a well defined role in an organization. It's 438 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: kind of whatever they need you to do. You do, 439 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: and they pay. They pay pretty good, usually for him crats. 440 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: I heard something interesting. 441 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, No, I was just gonna say, that's 442 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: the only part that was not true. You said they 443 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: get paid some money. They get paid a good amount 444 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: of money from the people that I know that are 445 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: special assistants. 446 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: What I heard about the Guardians is some of their 447 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: starters are struggling on the development side, like Avin Williams, 448 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: because they're kind of the opposite of the Race who 449 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: just say like, let's get you in the zone. Guardians 450 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: are like, let's get this pitch in this spot works 451 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: really well for Shane Bieber, Corey Kluber, etc. And it's 452 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: worked really well for many of their guys, but not 453 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: all of their guys. So anyway, that was. 454 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 3: Not every picture pitched the same. That's also something. 455 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: Not every picture has elite command. 456 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: Also true, That's what I'm saying. Not every hitter hits 457 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: the same. 458 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Hey, we're back. We are running a poll on YouTube 459 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: right now should Pete Rose be inducted into the Hall 460 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: of Fame? And it's fifty five percent no, forty five 461 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: percent yes. Right now from a small group, A. 462 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: J manipulates the masses just like Caesar. 463 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm like the Gladiator. Are you not entertained by Pete 464 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Rose cheating or not cheating? Gambling? 465 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: Should he be in thumbs down? 466 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: My opinion, his record ever be broken? 467 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: No, which one? Because hits don't matter anymore. Nobody will 468 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: ever come close to the forty two fifty six. Hits 469 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: don't matter. The strikeout record will be continually be broken. 470 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: But that's it. The picture strikeouts and the hitter strikeouts 471 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: for careers. 472 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't think pictures. I don't think anyone'll ever ever 473 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: reach number one, and I don't think anybody will ever 474 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: pass No. One Ryan. 475 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: For k Yeah, I mean you have three thousand. What 476 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: the one that's ever gonna be broken is Cy Young 477 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: with his uh uh five eleven wins or whatever. 478 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: No one's sniffing, Oh yeah. 479 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: No one's gonna get cal Ripkins because everybody needs a 480 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: load manage, So that one's that one's pretty safe. 481 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan's strikeouts are like. 482 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kershaw is trying to get to three thousand, right. 483 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: This is a straightforward show, so I'm gonna be very 484 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: straightforward with everyone about PXG. 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Restrictions apply see site 503 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: for details. 504 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: Real life problem, Scott. Real life problem like my microphone 505 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 3: wires connor on my chair wheel when I jumped up 506 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: to get the helmet here, just pulling on my just 507 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: pulling on my shirt. Just real life problems. 508 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: He's back. 509 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, do we have to have delay? 510 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: Did you have to go poop? Is that what it was? 511 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Because we can stop the show. We have a good 512 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: feeling you and you and Pete. 513 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 3: If we need to go poop. 514 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: That would be a violation. 515 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: It'd be a pitch clog. It'd be a poop clog. Violations. 516 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: Right, Well, you think that's bad, try signing a six year, 517 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million dollar contract and then being 518 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 2: pretty much terrible for the first few seasons, but then 519 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden making the ultimate Disney comeback story. 520 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: The name is Hobby baias Almago. It's magic two three 521 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: run homers in yesterday's walk off way for the Tigers 522 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: over the Red Sox. The Tigers are the best team 523 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: in the American League twenty eight and fifteen. They've won 524 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: ten of thirteen games. Hobby Bayaz might be the biggest 525 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: reason why they're this good. He is playing close to 526 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: I would say elite center field. Every game I've watched 527 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: with him out in center field, He's basically making every 528 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: play and then some metrics agree with me. Patrick Martinez 529 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: saying he's got the Tigers against the Padres in the 530 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: World Series. We'll get to the Padres, but anyway, they 531 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: were down two runs the Tigers in the bottom of 532 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: the eleventh and Almago hits his second three run homer 533 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: of the game, both of them off breakers. He's at 534 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: a three to nineteen batting clip, three point fifty seven 535 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: on base five thirteen slugging percentage. He looks a lot 536 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: like the shortstop version of that guy who was on 537 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: the Cubs who did swing out a lot of pitches, 538 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: but had power, had high batting average. Oh wait, he 539 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: looks exactly like prime Hobby Bayez. Again. Got to give 540 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: him credit. 541 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: I give my monker. All I had to do is 542 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: moom to center field. But let's not talk about how 543 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: Vey bios. We will talk about Howave bios and how 544 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: great he is. Can we talk about the catcher's reaction 545 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: our veias when he gave up the homer, he he 546 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: was like, set up a foot off the plate and 547 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 3: they threw it over here. And if you haven't seen this, 548 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: if we can run the clip again, just watch the 549 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: catcher's reaction. This is the best. He's just like, oh, 550 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: he's like, you gotta be kidding me. As soon as 551 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: he hits it, that's the best. Like, there's a couple 552 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: of there's the one I think as David Bodie hit 553 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: a walk off Grand Slam for the Cubs. I think 554 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: it was against the Gnats and mart and I think 555 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: Matt Wieters was the catcher, and as soon as the 556 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: pitch was thrown and hit, he just like you know, 557 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 3: you just know as a catcher, as soon as you 558 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: see it. There's pitches that leave guy's hand. You're like, 559 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: you want to be able to jump in front of 560 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: the hitter. And you're like, I'll take catcher's interference because 561 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: that one might not come back. And then they hit 562 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: it and you're just. 563 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: Like, ah, you can see the meatball. 564 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: Oh right, crafts am I not wrong? 565 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: There there was a catcher I forget his name. He 566 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: came up with the Orioles, very very like energetic guy. 567 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: That was when the Orioles were bad. You can go 568 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: back back to back home runs. He takes his mask 569 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: and spikes it before they even pan out of the pan, 570 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: out of the Severino. 571 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: That was a Severino Severno. Yes, yes, he was supposed 572 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: to be like a super prospect. Yeah, yeah, he was 573 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: like a super prospect. Yes, yes, I remember that. 574 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: That was classic. Well, anyway, that we always I always 575 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: always loved those in hitters meetings because you'd watch the 576 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: home run clips. They'd see you go ooh the catcher 577 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: or the one where they reach back for the ball. 578 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: They're like, it's hit, and they're just like, give me 579 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: new ball, give me new ball, Like we're going to 580 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: need a new one. Fans are gonna keep that one. 581 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: Hobby Baiez with runners in scoring position this season is 582 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: hitting four twenty four with runners in scoring position in 583 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: two outs, he's seven for twelve. 584 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 585 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: The regular numbers are there, the clutch numbers are there, 586 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: the Tigers numbers are there. 587 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: Is he going to be the starting center field or 588 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: of the All Star Game? I don't know. Oh, I 589 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: don't know. 590 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it, it's amazing when you 591 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: have two hips that you can play on. I'm just saying, 592 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: was that it it hip surgery, just saying playing and 593 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: they're just not as good. 594 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: I also say this, moving him to center field took 595 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: some pressure of them. I don't care what you say it. 596 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: Let him be free. Let him he doesn't have to 597 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: worry about playing defense and making all these great plays 598 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: and covering the whole infield. He just goes there, like 599 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: go catch the ball in center field, run around and 600 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: have a good time, and it makes it it makes 601 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: it fun again. Sometimes it's all you gotta do. 602 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I I disagree with 603 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: that because he looked like he was having fun. That 604 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: looked like his one reprieve because I never saw and 605 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: obviously I don't watch one hundred and sixty two Tigers games, 606 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: but I never saw him taking plays off and like moping. 607 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: He was never that guy. He was always that guy 608 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: that he's out there, and it almost seemed like when 609 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: he's out on the field, it was like, this is 610 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: my chance to hit a dinger because I'm not doing 611 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: it at the plate. And maybe I'm wrong, maybe it 612 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: does take pressure off of him, but he always looked 613 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: like out on defense like he was he was getting 614 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: after it, and I thought it was going to be 615 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: tougher for him moving to center field, because it's like 616 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: you are always the superstar. His entire life, he was 617 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: the shortstop. Most big league players were the shortstop until 618 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: at some point in their career they realized that other 619 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: people are better at short and that is a tougher 620 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: transition than people think, So I give him a ton 621 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: of credit for going off of a premier position. 622 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: I think you're right too. I mean, he's got a 623 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: pretty strong case to make it as the starting center 624 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: fielder in the All Star Game. There's other competition, but 625 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: you know he's right up there. 626 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: So what what Crush just said is, here's my thing though, 627 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: in centerfield, how many times skrouts have you seen outfielders 628 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: like they think the ball. They ain't thinking about the 629 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: ball being hit to him. So he gets to go 630 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: out there and he can think about his bad wagon. 631 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: He can think about, Man, I'm not going to chase 632 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: that slider five feet off the plated da no, dah. 633 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: It's just to talk to any outfielders when they're on defense, 634 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: they're so relaxed, they're so far away from the ball. 635 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: It's like they're out there talking. You know, Randy Rose 636 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: arenas out there signing autographs in between pitches. I mean, 637 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: imagine if a catcher did that. Did be pitchclog violations 638 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: left and right. Just it's a less stressful position, is 639 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: all I'm saying. 640 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: I would agree. I would agree pitch outfielders have the 641 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: best life, the best life. Outfielders retired. You don't see 642 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: outfielder's getting fat when they retire. Nope, they're just they're 643 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: just perfect. They're the best. 644 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: Buyer. Buckston's actually having a really good year right now, 645 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: so he's competition. Juli Rodriguez is up to a much 646 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: better start than he's been, so there's competition. Hobby's up there. 647 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Last thought, do we need to be a little less 648 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: harsh when a guy with a proven track record struggles 649 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: and he might have a significant injury that he's battling 650 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: and he's not necessarily at the end of his career, 651 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: because most people myself included, were like, why is he 652 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: still on the team? 653 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you couldn't wait. You couldn't wait, Scott couldn't wait 654 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: to fire him. 655 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to act like I was the only 656 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: one at thirty two years old. He's still in the 657 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: prime of his career. He just had some adjustments to make, 658 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: had a nation change to make, had a hip surgery 659 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: to get through, and boom, he's again one of the 660 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: best players in the sport. 661 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Those damn hips, I tell you what, don't break a hip. 662 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: The Tigers have to get some credit for sticking with him. Hey, 663 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: he's got years left on his deal. 664 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: Hinch. Hinch deserves a lot of credit in. 665 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: Harris and Illic, I'll get this is where the people 666 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: credit there. 667 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: This is where I definitely have a blind spot. I 668 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: to think everybody can turn it around at some point. 669 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: And I will. 670 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: I will probably air on the side of this guy's 671 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna turn it around too many times because I see 672 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: too much negativity in baseball, especially when you start talking 673 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: about analytics. Wrong side of thirty, he's the wrong Like, 674 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna nobody's gonna be Look and emulate my career, 675 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: but my entire career was from thirty to forty. I 676 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: didn't make the big leages until I was thirty years old. Essentially, like, 677 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: you sit there and you go, Okay, not essentially actually was, 678 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: but anyway, you sit there and you go, why couldn't 679 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: somebody like that continue to play into into his thirty 680 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: six thirty eight years thirty eight year old season. They 681 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: have to make adjustments. But when guys crater like that, 682 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: I just I always believe they're going to be able 683 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: to come back. Paul Goldchman, look at Paul Goldchman. Nolan Eronado, 684 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: guys that had bad years bouncing back this year. 685 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: And when you do that, some of our fans watch 686 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: and go, oh, player Homer. He's just thinking everybody's okay, 687 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: and he just roots for all the players. 688 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: I do all the players. 689 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know alays sometimes when sometimes when guys who 690 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: had really good careers and they got popped and then 691 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: they fall off, but then they get back and have 692 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: really good careers again. Maybe I'm not as as player 693 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: Homer as people would say. 694 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Right, I got I'm with you on that one. Most 695 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: times when the player gets busted for Royds, I'm like, 696 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: all right, let's see what happens. Yes, we have another 697 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: walk off Romster. We had like four or five. 698 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: There was like three in like three minutes. 699 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool. Fernando Tatist Junior in the late 700 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: matchup between the Angels and Padres. It's been an awesome series. 701 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: They had the big comeback for the Angels the night 702 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: before Padres bullpen is shaky in this series. Kyle Glazer, 703 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: our Friar Territory host is freaking out last night. I'm like, Kyle, relaxed. 704 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: Look at the record for there, they're fine, and look 705 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: at the stuff for the relievers. They're just you know 706 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: what was bad game? Yeah, they're fine. Tatist, walkoff dinger, 707 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: good ball club. 708 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: I love watching I love watching games in San Diego, 709 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: like on TV. I haven't been to a game as 710 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: a fan. It's just like when the camera's like we're 711 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: shaken all around, You're like, you know that place is rocking, 712 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: and then they pan up and they got that whole 713 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: new section like in center field where the fans are 714 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: kind of in the stadium but they're not, and everyone's 715 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: going ham, Oh, it's I love seeing it. It's a 716 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: good team. 717 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: Some too many people doubted them. 718 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna say this, there's a long ways to 719 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: go and they've got they've got some things that need 720 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: to go right for him. 721 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: That's fine. I just was I think one of the 722 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: higher guys on the totem pole for this team and 723 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: got a lot of hate. 724 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that. I mean, yeah, I think I 725 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: think we all picked them up, maybe to make the playoffs, 726 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but maybe not. Yeah, I 727 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: mean I think we A lot of us said the 728 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: Diamondbacks being ahead of because you look at the Diamondbacks 729 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: on paper, you'd be like, the Diamondbacks should be a 730 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: better team. 731 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: And l West I had Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Padres. I like 732 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: those three kind of. 733 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 3: I think that was the same place. 734 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: And then I mean what you end up coming up with, though, 735 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: is an issue. Because you have three wild cards, you're 736 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: taking up two in the West. Central is going to 737 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 2: have one, I think, But what about the East. 738 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: Well, someone of the Phillies, Mets, Braves don't make it. 739 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 3: That's there's the there's the roof. 740 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: Those are all good teams. That's what gets interesting. 741 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 3: That's why I like it. That's what happened to the 742 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: uh Diamondbacks. Last Diamondbacks eighty nine games, didn't get in. 743 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: What do you want? 744 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: You gotta win ninety? You do win ninety. They're in. 745 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: But the point is it's a tough national period. As 746 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: the iliot once said, it's a tough National league period. 747 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: It now Philly itis all that sheep shit. 748 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: It's a I say, you can good job. It's gonna 749 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: be all nice. 750 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: The world works, or eighty five percent of the world works. 751 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: Got the other fifteen percent come out to day baseball. 752 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: Hey, let's hit a couple more walk offs from yesterday. 753 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: So I think there were two that we didn't cover yet. 754 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: The Mariners walk off the Yankees who just couldn't tap 755 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: into the Mariner's bullpen. Actually, Devin Williams had a nice 756 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: inning in the tenth and then Tim Hill gave it 757 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: up in the eleventh pretty quickly on back to back knocks. 758 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: But the Mariners get a walk off win. And how 759 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: fitting here's the Mariners walk off win, by the way. 760 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: JP Crawford gets it done quickly against Tim Hill, a 761 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: little slice piece in the left, two to one win 762 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 2: for the Ms. 763 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: And Justin Turner doesn't Turner with the big knock. Remember 764 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: he got he got demoted. 765 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 2: He he's done on however you say it, have a 766 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: Blisteros stay Byasteros gets called up. J T gets the 767 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: walk off. I like that little rookie versus end of 768 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: year veteran battle or end of career veteran battle for 769 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: the d H spot. 770 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: No, it's gonna it's not it. It's gonna be a 771 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: platoon stop a right, he's out there. It's gonna be Biasteros. 772 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: Biasteros is not getting called up to do anything but rake. 773 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna get the righty's. They brought a lefty in 774 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: JT got his at bat. Then you had a stick 775 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: with j T and he got it against the righty. 776 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: They ain't they're so deep into the platoon nation they're not. 777 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: You're not earning a spot unless Bias Steros doesn't do 778 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: anything with it, and then Ian Happ will be back 779 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: by that time. 780 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: Okay, So just strict platin with those two. Ye. 781 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: When Hap comes back, Bistro is probably gonna go to 782 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: Triple A because they need him to catch and get better. 783 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: Right, But if he goes on a heater, it might 784 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 2: be hard to sit them. Yeah. 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That's 804 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: Arena Club dot Com slash foul code foul. All right. 805 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: So this one broke during the show Bob Nightingale with 806 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: the tweet The Mariners rotation, which had been so healthy 807 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: the past couple seasons, used just six starters last year, 808 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: which is insane. I mean, for context, the Dodgers have 809 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: used eleven already this season. Now the Manners are missing 810 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: sixty percent of their starting rotation. Bryce Miller hits the shelf. 811 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: He's on the il along with Logan Gilbert and George Kirby. 812 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: This is what I've been talking about for years with 813 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: the Mariners. Was on their radio station or there whatever 814 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: I was on a Seattle station yesterday. I'm on with 815 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 2: Stacey and Michael, their two great hosts that cover Seattle sports. 816 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: And I don't remember the station's name. Sorry. I was 817 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: like for the past couple of years, you know, most 818 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: normal teams deal with a lot of starting pitching injuries, 819 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: so this is going to bite them eventually. And here 820 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: it goes now, luckily for Mariners fans, who do have 821 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: what looks like a better offense and a much better 822 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: contact rate. But we're now down three starters in this rotation. 823 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 2: Two of them are aces. The other one I think 824 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: is a number three. Bryce Miller's good yea, So how 825 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: bad is this? 826 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: Uh? Bad? Because I don't know what the depth is. 827 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: Woo's been good for him this year. Castillo? How important 828 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: is that they didn't trade him? Maybe they knew someone 829 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: we didn't trade lose Castillo. But this is what happens 830 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: in today's game. You can't count on them. They did 831 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: it all year less year. All those guys took thirty 832 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: starts almost and took the ball every five days. And 833 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: now it's catching up to him. And it's because again 834 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: I still I'll go back by this. I'll stand with 835 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 3: those guys are not conditioned to take the ball every 836 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: fit day or just. 837 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: Not right elbow inflammation for a team that has they 838 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: if it's not the medical staff, they've done a great 839 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: job of fine pitchers that have had durability, but the 840 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: injury bugs biting the arms. This year. Kratz Kirby had 841 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: the shoulder right and he is on track to return 842 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: somewhat soon. Logan Gilbert has the classic precursor to what 843 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 2: could be a more devastating injury. Elbow imflemation for Bryce 844 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: Miller is not what you like to hear either. 845 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: This was catastrophic last year for this team, it would 846 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: have been catastrophic. I think the changes that they've made 847 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: offensively are sustainable. So if I'm believing that, then I 848 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 1: have to believe that this team can carry themselves through 849 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: this time because they're not just a starting rotation team. 850 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: Their bullpen is awesome, and then you get to Andres Munos, who, 851 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: by the way, hasn't given up a run yet this year, 852 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: So they only have length in the bullpen that's going 853 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: to be tested now and it might come back to 854 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: bite him in July and August. But right now, the 855 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: offense is not making them win all two to one games. 856 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: They're putting up five or six. So last year this 857 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: would have been devastating. Maybe not this year. 858 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: It's just like you finally, at least for a little 859 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: bit of time, crack a code on offense. And now 860 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: this Kirby, by the way, could be back this month. 861 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 2: I mean he's going through his rehab process right now. 862 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 2: His rehab starts coming back from the shoulder. Gilbert sounds 863 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: like he's still always away and now with Miller, will 864 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: see what the timeline ends up being. 865 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: Gilbert my so young pick out the window. 866 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I guess would be mid June at the earliest, 867 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: if not later. Yeah, could be on those situations. I'm 868 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: just saying, this could be one of those situations where 869 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: Seattle ends up with a top ten offense that makes 870 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: much better contact plays, a better brand of baseball for 871 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: that ballpark, and they missed the playoffs by a game 872 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: with the fifty three point five percent winning percentage, and 873 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 2: this year it was the starting rotation which they had 874 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: so heavily relied on. It could happen rooting for Seattle 875 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: fans to get a little bit of love. But this 876 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 2: one's tough because it's a it's funny to say it, aj, 877 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: but it's top heavy. And by top of it, they 878 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: don't mean like one, two or three. I mean they 879 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 2: had a really sick five. After that, it gets dicey. 880 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 2: I mean, guys are gonna have both bullpen's really good. 881 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: But now the bullpen's going to get more of a strain. 882 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: This is what you always bring up. The guys that 883 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 2: they're missing are length guys. Now, it's how what are 884 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: we going to get from Logan Evans? What are from 885 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: Emerson handpack? These guys are going to get full share 886 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 2: starts for a while. 887 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they gotta be good. They gotta be good, just 888 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: be good enough to get the ball to the bullpen 889 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 3: and give them a chance because of offensive swinging. 890 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: So m hmm, let's slap congratulations to Matt Carpenter calling 891 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: it a career fourteen big league seasons, including twelve with 892 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals. They love him out there. I'm 893 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: sure he'll be active special assistant maybe to. 894 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll have one of those red jackets and 895 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 3: give all the Cardinal people one day. Yeah, oh crapender, 896 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 3: we get him on the show. 897 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: Jack You gotta retired, but you gotta. 898 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: What Red's Hall of Fame. 899 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: Gotta just said, get in, get in. 900 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, get in. 901 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: Cras to the Cardinals Hall of Fame. 902 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, David Freeze was going in. He said, no. Carner, 903 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 3: hud Mark, he was a big hits, so did Matt Carvinger. 904 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: Carp's getting in. Can we get him on the. 905 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 3: Showy, I can? I can call him and text him. 906 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean he talks to you had nothing to do, 907 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: now come on and let's talk. 908 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: You don't he never did anything when he played, so 909 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: I mean that's he. 910 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: Was the DH before there was a d He used 911 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: to get made fun of so bad. 912 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 3: It was so great by the way he used to 913 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: get made fun of by Matt Holliday, so bad. 914 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: Max Monsey Tomorrow, Max Monty Alert on the show The Dodgers, 915 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: Max Munsey True