1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to another special edition of the opp I'm Amy Wells, 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: joined by the Titans Radio Draft duo coach Max Coach 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Jave McGinnis is here, Hey, Coach Hills, and Brett Brian 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: is also here. Hello, raet Him, Hello Coat. It's good 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: to see all of you, guys. We are all still 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: at our homes, keeping a respectable distance from one another, 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: but it's good to see your shining virtual faces. Any 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: any social contact I can get right now, I will take, 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: but especially with you guys. This is good. All right. Now, 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: we are going to start today with a very important 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: topic in the two thousand twenty draft, and that is 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Now, this draft class is jam packed 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: full of wide receivers, and I kind of want to 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: talk in generalities a little bit, and this is a 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: question for the both of you. In two thousand and four, 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: there were seven wide receivers who were taken in the 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft. Rhett, do you think 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: that this twenty twenty draft could match that just in 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: terms of the number of receivers taken in the first round. Amy, 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. While this draft is being touted 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: by a lot as maybe the greatest wide receiver draft 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: in the history of the draft. I see as many 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: as five going in the first round. Cede Lamb from Oklahoma, 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs from Alabama, Jerry Judy from Alabama, Justin Jefferson 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: from LSU, and possibly Laviska Channel from Colorado. Yeah, Amy, 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: I agree with what Rhet says, and I think there 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: are some that would warrant being in the first round. 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: But bear in mind, just as we've talked about on 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: earlier OTPs about the separation of the draft between the 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and every other position. Once quarterbacks are taken, it 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: starts to push the other slots down. So I think 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: there are at least that many seven was the number 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: that you threw out there, that are capable of being 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. I agree with Rit there probably 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: won't be that many just because of the number of quarterbacks. Now, Mac, 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about traits and evaluating 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: these guys beyond just the standard catching the football. What 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: are you looking to see out of a top wide receiver? 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: You know what, Amy, in this draft and it's been 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: in this way. I mean, the trend started, you know, 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: once all the rule changes started trending towards being more 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: biased towards the offense and mainly in the passing game, 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: because the National Football League, you know, has has trended 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: towards the passing game, just like it's it's filtered down 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: from the college game and the things that I look for. 46 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: Now you're able to evaluate these receivers in college now 47 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: because so many people are throwing the ball with multiple 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: receiver sets, and so once you start looking for a receiver, 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: now you start looking at the nuances to being a 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: good receiver. How well does he release off of the 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: line of scrimmiges. How good is he at being able 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: to separate from man coverage, How good is he at 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: the catch point? How quick can he recognize coverages and 54 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: be able to settle down in the middle or the 55 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: dead spots of zones. What does he look like in 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: run after the catch? Is he a hand catcher okay? 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Or is he a body catcher? How much is he 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: syncd up with his quarterback? And then how much is 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: he able to defend if he is indeed a premier receiver, 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: how much is he able to overcome and combat double teams? 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: All of those things you can start to look at 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: as nuances in a receiver's game. Now, the majority of 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: these mock drafts have CD Lamb out of Oklahoma as 64 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the first wide receiver off the board, Rett, what do 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: you think sets him apart from some of the other 66 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: guys in this draft? Lamb has consistent and successful catch 67 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: attempts that have been routine when he's both wide open 68 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: and when he's in crowded spaces against dbs. Some of 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: the best hands in this draft along to Cede Lamb, 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: and for his size, he has great body contortion at 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: bendy six foot two, one hundred ninety eight pounds, really 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: good explosiveness for jump balls, and fifty fifty combat catching 73 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: type of deal. His ability to quickly adjust off throw 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: a change in direction can be a quarterback's best friend 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: when an errant throw is a catch. He averaged twenty 76 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: one point nine yards per catch in twenty nineteen with 77 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts at Oklahoma. Coach Mac maybe give me one 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: or two additional elite wide receivers in this group. I 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: think Jerry Judy is in that elite level, and you 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: could go Jerry Judy and Cedee Lamb one one A 81 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and flip him. However, you want to. But Jerry Judy 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: six one hundred ninety two pounds, he's a junior coming 83 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: out of Alabama. He wore number four for them there 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: at Alabama, and he's got all the tools to be 85 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a number one X or slot in this league. He's 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: got an entire route release package as I talked about 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: earlier in this podcast. He's got the ability to create separation. 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: He's got elite feet and his and he's got really 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: good lower body flex which means he can sink his hips, 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: and he's really good run after catch. He needs to 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: add a little muscle mass, and he needs work a 92 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: little bit sometimes in some certain situations about leaning, you know, 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: towards and into the coverage sometimes. But in combat situations 94 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: he's good. He's got long speed. I think he's got 95 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a very high floor as we talk about in the 96 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: draft world, and he's a polished prospect. I think this 97 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: guy to me as a number one receiver as soon 98 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: as you put him on your roster. The other guy 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: that I'm going to talk about is on the same team, Okay, 100 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: is Henry Ruggs out of Alabama. And when you start 101 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: talking about Henry Ruggs, his skill set starts with elite speed. Okay, 102 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: he's got good ball tracking ability. He's six foot, one 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds. He wore number eleven for him. 104 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: He's also a junior, but he's got really strong hands. Now. 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: His speed amy will dictate to most defenses that he 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: goes up against that they have to back up, they 107 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: have to concentrate on him, just because that's one thing 108 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: that you can't coach, is pure speed that he has, 109 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: and he has acceleration into contact. He's not just a jitterbug. 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: He's one hundred and ninety pounds and he'll accelerate into contact. 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: He's not as polished a route runner yet as Judy 112 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: that we talked about, but once he starts showing some 113 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: sophistication in his releases, he's a first round pick and 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: he'll be somebody's slot receiver immediately when he gets on campus. 115 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: To piggyback off of what coach Mack is saying about 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs from Alabama possibly one of the most explosive 117 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers in this draft, as I've mentioned before in 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: a previous OTP. To prove that point of his one 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: hundred touches in college football, ninety eight of them, receiving 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: two of them. As a running back, one t five touchdowns. 121 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: He is a scoring threat and explosive in this deal 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and will be highly picked because of that. Now, Coach Mac, 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, because you guys 124 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: have now brought up Jerry Judy and Henry Ruggs, both 125 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: from Alabama, and we've seen this before where one school 126 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: will have two top wide receivers. I don't know if 127 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: you guys remember a guy named AJ Brown who plays 128 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans and DK Metcalf who went to 129 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Old Miss, and they were two top receivers coming out 130 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: of the same school last year. Mac, how hard is 131 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: it to grade guys independently of one another when they're 132 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: both in the same offense, and so it might limit 133 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: the amount of touches that one player gets as opposed 134 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: to another one just because they're victims of being a 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: part of an offense when there's only one football. He mean, 136 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: that's a very insightful and it's a layered question, it 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: really is. It's got several layers to it. And let 138 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: me say this. You know, when you're watching, take the 139 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: first thing that you want to do when you're watching 140 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a prospect is just concentrate on one player at a time, 141 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: separate from anything else that is going on within the 142 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: function of the offense or the defense. Now, when you're 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: talking about two talents receivers like that on one team, 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: then it brings it a little bit more into focus 145 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: as far as the attention that they are going to get, 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: not only from their offense as far as the quarterback 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: using them as a primary target. It also gets into 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: the attention that defenses are paying them. So clearly, if 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to double one player, if I'm going to 150 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: double Rugs, well, then then clearly on the other side, 151 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Judy's going to get more single coverage. If he gets 152 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: more single coverage, then more than likely then two is 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: going to throw the ball over there more. And so 154 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: once you get into that type of a look, when 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: you're watching two very talented just the same way that 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: we did. Your example of AJ Brown at DK Metcalf 157 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: is really a really good one. Then you've got to 158 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: start to decide, is this guy get in a lot 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: of catches because he's just that much better, or he's 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: that much crisper in his releases, or he's better at 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: dropping coverage or is he getting more throws because the 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: other guy is demanding a double team and thus the 163 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: throw is dictated to go over that way. So it's 164 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: a really really good question, and when you're watching, you've 165 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: got to watch it with your bright lights on as 166 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: far as looking at the whole big picture of it, 167 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: which encompasses both of them, and then then you narrow 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: in and you microscopically look at each receiver individually as 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: to how he's releasing, how he's doing, what is run 170 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: after catches. So it's a it's a really insightful question, 171 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's something that you do have to take into 172 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: account when you're watching two really great players on one 173 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: team at one time. Ratt tell me about a guy 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: like Colorado's Leaviscus Chanolt. Now, is he still a top 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: ranking right receiver even though he's had some injury issues? Yes, 176 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: he is an amy. As a matter of fact, he 177 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: had surgery could repair a core muscle injury that he 178 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: was actually working through when he was doing his try 179 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: A workouts and everything in Indianapolis. At the combine, his 180 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: hands are good and strong, but his route running needs 181 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 1: some work because of his unique versatility. In fact, outside 182 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. There wasn't a position that he 183 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: didn't play within that Colorado offense. He was treated as 184 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: if he was an h back. He also played out 185 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: wide on the hip of the offensive tackle, running back, 186 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: and even had some snaps at wildcat quarterback. His best 187 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: contributions came when he was treated primarily as a wide receiver, 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: and that type of prior experience from multiple spots throughout 189 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: the offense will provide an offensive coordinator with a multifaceted 190 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: option to utilize in different spots. He is explosive. In 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, he averaged nearly eleven yards from scrimmage per play. 192 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, he is definitely a top flight wide receiver. 193 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Are there other guys who you think could sneak into 194 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: being Day one picks? Yeah? There are, And now I'll 195 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: give you two, you know, just right off the top 196 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: here Jalen Ragor from TCU Frog Okay, five eleven, one 197 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: hundred ninety five pounds, Number one. He's a junior. Now, 198 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: what Jalen Ragor has He's got what we call easy speed. 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: In other words, he doesn't struggle to move, He doesn't 200 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: struggle to get off the line of scrimmage. He contract 201 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: the ball vertically, which is a big, big trait to 202 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: have when you've got speed. He's a twitched up athlete. 203 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: He can create some separation. He's got track speed, but 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: he's not a contact catcher, okay. And then he's not 205 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: a great blocker right now in the TCU system. His 206 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: hands need a little work. But he's a Z receiver. 207 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: He's a vertical threat, and he has upside also to 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,479 Speaker 1: work as a slot. So he's a creative guy. He's explosive. 209 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: He's a speed mismatch to most corners. He's raw, but 210 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: he's very fast. That is something that everybody always looks 211 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: at in their receivers. The other guy I will point 212 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: out is Justin Jefferson from LSU sixty three, one hundred 213 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: ninety two pounds, number two. He's a junior, okay, he's 214 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: a very versatile receiver. Amy he's got the skills to 215 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: play from the slot from outside. He's a really good 216 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: nuanced route runner. Earlier, your question about what the other 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: traits that you look for. His route running is really good. 218 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: He's got hands, he's got really good ball skills as 219 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: far as as catches away from his body and what 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: he is He's not one of those. He's not just 221 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: a jump off the screen dynamic athlete like we talked 222 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: about Rugs earlier on. He ran a very good time. 223 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: He ran a sub four or five at the combine, 224 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: but he's an athlete, and to me, he's a very 225 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: very good option. If you bring Justin Jefferson into somewhere 226 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: that already has a dominant receiver, this guy will be 227 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: an immediate starter as a number two, and you'll be 228 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: really glad you have it. One for me that keeps 229 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: jumping off the page of a guy that had a 230 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: great combine in Denzel Mims of Baylor. He had a 231 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of the measurables, and especially for a guy that's 232 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: a big receiver. Six three two oh seven ran a 233 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: sub four four forty yard dash, vertical leap of thirty 234 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: eight and a half inches nearly an eleven foot broad jump, 235 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: so that shows all of the explosiveness. He's got huge 236 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: mits from hands and the spring that he's got at 237 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: his size has a chance to win a lot of 238 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: contested catches at the next level. Denzel Nimms Mems of Baylor, 239 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: keep him on your radar. Who are some of your 240 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: favorite Day two picks guys who could be real impact 241 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: players at the next level. Well, let's start with Chase 242 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: Claypool of Notre Dame. He tore it up at the 243 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: combine at six foot four, two hundred and thirty eight 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: pounds under four or five, showing big bursts for a 245 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: big man. And another one that coach Mac knows since 246 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: he was a little baby is Michael Pittman Junior of 247 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: Southern Cow. Another big wide receiver at six four, two 248 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three pounds, another guy with four or 249 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: five forty yard speed, and he had a great year 250 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: at Southern Cow. Would make an impact as a possession 251 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: receiver immediately. Those are two guys to keep on your 252 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: radar as well. Yeah, I have known Michael Pittman Junior 253 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: since he was just salute. I coached his dad, Michael 254 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: Pittman Senior. We drafted him when I was a head 255 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: coach at the Arizona Cardinals, and so I've known him 256 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: since he was in diapers. Anyway, I mean, he's grown 257 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: into a really good athlete in RETZ one hundred percent. Right, 258 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: here's a couple for me, Amy Brandon Ike from Arizona State. 259 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: He's number two he's a senior six ft two hundred 260 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: and one pounds. Now, this guy's a big, big play 261 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: threat guy. He's super twitchy, and he's really good with 262 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. He's a strong, strong, tough runner. 263 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: He's a kick returner and a punt returner. He struggles 264 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: sometimes because he's so thick to clear press sometimes and 265 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: he needs more nuanced technique. But to me, he can 266 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: be your primary return guy. And this is a guy 267 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: that is very very strong with the ball in his hands, 268 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and to me, that's a very very important thing to have. 269 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, as a receiver, he's not going to be 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: a guy that's probably going to be an immediate number one, 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: but he's going to be somebody that you're really really 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: happy that you've got on your squad when you start 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: getting into ball games, and especially when you start getting 274 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: deeper into the season when your death needs to show up. 275 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: The other guy for me is t Higgins out of 276 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Clemson six four, two hundred and fifteen pounds. He's number five. 277 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: He was a junior. Now, this guy is completely different 278 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: than IIUK. He's got lenked, he's got size, he's got 279 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: elevation ability all right, he's got build up speed. He's 280 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: not an immediate, just jump out of the blocks guy. 281 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: He's got build up speeds, but he's got a little 282 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: bit of tightness in his hips and his knees that 283 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: can limit him sometimes in some of what his route 284 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: tree is and some of his elusiveness. But to me, 285 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: he is he's going to be a number two receiver 286 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: once he gets into somewhere. But his downfield combat catching 287 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: ability is really at the top of the charts, and 288 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: that's becoming a big, big knee most of the time 289 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: now in the National Football League because now with the 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: pass interference rules the way they are, you've got a 291 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: big receiver that's a combat catcher and you can throw 292 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: it up, it's going to be more than fifty fifty 293 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: for the offense. Most of those things are seventy thirty 294 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: for the offense if you've got a combat catcher. Now, 295 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: and we talk about Day three, we're talking about guys 296 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: who are great values. Who are some wide receivers who 297 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: could go in that Day three some of those later rounds, 298 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: but would add a lot of value to an NFL team. Yeah, 299 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention one here, and I know Reet's got 300 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: some too, because We've done every receiver that was at 301 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: the buying in the last week or so, but I'm 302 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention Van Jefferson from Florida, six two, one 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: hundred ninety seven pounds. He's number twelve. He's a red 304 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: shirt senior. He's a really, really good route runner. He's 305 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: technique strong, he's got quick feet, he's a physical blocker, 306 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's a really good technique wide receiver. Look, 307 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: he's twenty four years old and physically, I mean, he's 308 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: probably about where he's gonna be. He might get a 309 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: tad stronger, but he is a slot receiver. He doesn't 310 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: have a great long speed, but he's got separation quickness. 311 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: He's got long leavers, he's very competitive with the ball 312 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: in the air. This is a guy I would look 313 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: at in day three. Let's not forget he's the son 314 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: of former Titans wide receiver coach Sean Jefferson. If that 315 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: name sounds familiar in Van, who played high school football 316 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: at Nashville, Let's go with Lynn Bowden of Kentucky, one 317 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: of the top athletes in the country. Kentucky recruited him hard, 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: got him there. The kid played quarterback, defensive back. Hunt 319 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: returned to kick return in high school, thrived at every position. 320 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: He made All SEC freshman team as a freshman at Kentucky. 321 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: He led the Kentucky Wildcats the following season and receptions, 322 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: receiving yards, receiving touchdowns. He can play anybody every position 323 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: on the field. He's a slot receiver probably is the 324 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: best fit. But he has explosive hips, quick feet, a 325 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: deadly combo for change of direction. He even played some 326 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: quarterback for them. He is an intriguing prospect that someone 327 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: could get as a versatile athlete in Day three. All right, 328 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: give me a player or two that you think might 329 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: be a late round pick where could really even go undrafted, 330 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: that you will be keeping a special eye on. Okay, 331 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I got about two or three guys here that I'm 332 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: interested in. One is Omar Bayliss of Arkansas State six 333 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: one and change two hundred and change, And if you 334 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: just go look at his highlight reel, he makes a 335 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: lot of really impressive one handed touchdown catches. He is 336 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: a big enough receiver. Didn't run a super great forty time, 337 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what keeps him probably at 338 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: the end of Day three or probably undrafted well, he's 339 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: an athlete that I think could help some teams, especially 340 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: on the back end of a roster. And then there 341 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: are two receivers from the University of Rhode Island. Yes, 342 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Rhode Island, I said, Isaiah Coulter six two one ninety 343 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: eight rant of forty times under four and a half seconds, 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of the explosion measurables in that and 345 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: had a great year for Rhode Island. And then he 346 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: has a cousin and a college team Ain and Aaron Parker, 347 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: also of Rhode Island. Both of those guys led their 348 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: team and led their conference and catches and touchdowns and receptions, 349 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: and those guys are definitely intriguing to see as the 350 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: end of Day three and undrafted phone calls are starting 351 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: to be placed. Yeah, Amy, I've got a couple of guys. 352 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: The first I'm gonna mention is Brian Edwards out of 353 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: South Carolina. I mean, he's a sixty three, two hundred 354 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: and fifteen pound guy. He was number eighty nine. He's 355 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: a senior. This guy is a physical receiver. Now he 356 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: had a pre combined injury, and so he's a guy 357 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to do some extra work on 358 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: and with the environment the way it is, I don't 359 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: know how much you're going to be able to see 360 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: him or what they're going to be able to do 361 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: as far has his physical now coming into this draft, 362 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: but he's a physical receiver. He's more consistent hands, but 363 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: he's got some tools to work with and at sixty 364 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: three two hundred and fifteen pounds, Brian Edwards is a 365 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: guy from South Carolina, number eighty nine I would keep 366 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: my eye on. And the other guy is Antonio Gandy 367 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Golden from Liberty. He's got really good ball skills, he 368 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: can track the ball, he's got linked he's another combat 369 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: catcher ability. He would be a real red zone threat. 370 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: He'd have a spot on a roster. Coach Max right 371 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: about Brian Edwards, and it's a shame for him because 372 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: a pre draft workout has him with a right foot fracture, 373 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: stress fractor, a Jones fracture, the fifth metal tarsel that 374 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: really kind of set him back. Now, Coach Mac, I 375 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: want to end with you. We continue to see depth 376 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver position in the draft. This seems 377 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: to be a trend. Do you think this is a 378 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: sustainable trend? Are we going to continue to see a 379 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of dominant wide receiver in drafts for years to come, 380 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like the question, and it's 381 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: got a lot of relevancy, and it also relates to 382 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: the number of cornerbacks we're seeing now come out in 383 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, here's what you're looking at. You're 384 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: looking at offenses that are using four and five receivers. 385 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, the majority of the time in college football, 386 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: even your tight ends are big whiteouts that are split 387 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: out a lot. And so yeah, you're going to continue 388 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: to see the number of these people. And I think 389 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: it goes clear back to the seven on sevens the 390 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: kids are having in high school. You're having summer high 391 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: school seven on sevens. You're having a lot of kids 392 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: now play receiver that might normally be running backs, might 393 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: normally play another position. We're gonna continue to see this 394 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: not only not only let's not talk about the trend 395 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. Let's talk about the trend 396 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: in high school football. Let's talk about the trend in 397 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: college football. That is all filtering up to the athletes 398 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: that are coming into the National Football League to be 399 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: part of this league definitely going to be fun to 400 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: watch not only this draft, but many drafts to come. 401 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Draft Duo, think you so much for taking some time 402 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: to be with us today. Thanks Andy Wells, Brett and 403 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I've been talking together for about three hours a day 404 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: on the phone, so it's good to talk to somebody 405 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: else on the phone. That's true, I would agree. Well, 406 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: maybe next time we'll do this separately then so we 407 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: can get your guys. No, we gotta stay Draft Duo. 408 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: That's not Draft Uno Draft Duo. All right, Well, with 409 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: the Draft Duot Brian and Coach Max, thank you guys 410 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: so much for being here. We're going to continue doing 411 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: these position previews. Don't you worry, so subscribe to the OTP. 412 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Just do the right thing. Make sure that you are 413 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: keeping tuned into the Official Titans Podcast because the draft 414 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: is quickly approaching. For coach Mac and Rett Brian, otherwise 415 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: known as the Draft Duo, I am Amy. Well, thank 416 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: you for listening to the ot