1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you're listening to the Velvet 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Edge podcast. This week, my guest is mother daughter, Boss, 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Babe duo Melissa Schliker and Hunter Primo. I have known 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Melissa for years as a freelance hair and makeup artist. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, she has worked with everyone in Nashville, including 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Carrie Underwood, Alan Jackson, Brad Paisley, Lisa, Marie Pressley, Leanne Womack. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Honestly could keep going on for days because she's been 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: doing it for over twenty years. But Melissa has now 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: started what I like to call a glam empire with 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: her salons, Parlor three, Barber three, Hunter Page, and now 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: she even just started a new event space. Her daughter, 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Hunter is a businesswoman in her own right. At a 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: very young age, Hunter is the founder and content creator 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: behind Hunter Primo dot com, a fashion and lifestyle blog 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: based on her life here in Nashville. The ladies gave 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: me some really great business advice based off of the 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: lessons they've both learned along the way about being your 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: own boss, knowing when to let go, and the importance 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: of staying true to your brand. I even went back 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: and took notes because I loved so much of what 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: they had to say. Here's our conversation. Okay, so I 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: feel like you have basically a glam empire now, oh lordy, 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: but it really is. So you've done hair and makeup 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: for twenty years now, oh gosh, probably longer than that 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: hundred your so even before that, even before that, I 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: would say probably in the music business probably well, no 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: game clothes are to thirty because gosh, please don't say that. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: You were doing it for a few years when I 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: was born. But I would say more in the music 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: business when Hunter was little, So I started more with 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: artists and stuff when you were probably like two, and 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: so by music business, you kind of you do what 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: I do. We're freelance, and so you work with people 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: like Carrie Underwood, Alan Jackson, Brad Paisley, Rascal flats Lee, 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: and Wilmike. I mean, I feel like I could go 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: on forever. It started a lot like a long time ago. 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: That's who I worked with. But now, like as I'm 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: getting older, I'm like, Okay, I've been there, done that. 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I used to work. I would come off the road 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: with one person and go with the next, and I 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: just can't do that Anymore's and so I just worked 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: with Carrie. Now okay, so you're just traveling with Carrie, 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: So I mean you can't do that. Also because you 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: have these three other businesses that are boomy, like four 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: now before waits the four? Well no, okay, So we 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: have Parlor three, which is the first hair salon. Hair salon, yes, 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: ten years ago? Almost was it ten years ago? Years 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: coming up? God? Okay, it had not senior year of 49 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: high school. Because she was worried about me leaving and 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: not having anything to do. So basically that's why I 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: did it, because she's leaving. She's leaving me, so let's 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: open a business. It started as a makeup store, like 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: she originally wanted a makeup store, and she had the upstairs, 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: and then she filmed. Think of us makeup artists, we 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: didn't have anywhere to go about good makeup, and there 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: really isn't. So I was like, oh, I want when 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: a make up store makes sense, I mean they had 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: a bigger space available, and so she's not me to 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: walked into it. It's a whole another business. I really, 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: I was busy with my plants, but I wanted to 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: make up. I just wanted that extra like as you know, 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: we might not have work for two months. Yeah, so 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: you have to plan. You don't know if you have 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: to have a side hustle, have to have a side up. 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: And I would just be like, well, here we go. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm mortgaged. I put my house up to open that business. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Did you really wow? Put my house up and was like, 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: here we go. I and we didn't even have the 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: rent to pay the phone and it was like, you know, 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: we know all these hairdressers in Nashville. So I was like, hey, 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about opening a salon because there's all the space. 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: And then my friends were like, I'll work for you, 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: I'll work for you. I was like, Okay, let's do this. 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: And then the makeup story ended up being there, but 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: then the salon and it just just trickled and then 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Barbara com years later, so Barbara three opened. It's about 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: going on five years. And that's cool because now the 78 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: guys have a place to go that's not so like 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: glam right, Like when you walk in Parlor three and 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: it's a girl's place able to feel like they're sitting 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: in the living room like hanging out there. It's not 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: very stuffy's like we need a barbers Okay, I get 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: to decorate again, and uh, he's like, there's no crystal chandelis. 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: Like I said, I got this right, So then I 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: just I had fun decorate that because that was like 86 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: my men's it's a whole new place, the barbershop. And 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: then now you have Hunter Page to which so is 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: this it's a not a blowout bar, but it's like everybody, 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: it is named after your daughter Hunter, but it's a 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of like wedding parties and what kind of stuff 91 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: happens at Hunter Parlor three. We have assistance that go 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: to the whole program. Okay, well when they get done, 93 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: we don't lose them. So that's when we started going, okay, 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: we need another place to have these great assistance because 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: we're all this time and money into these amazing girls, 96 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: to training guys having a turtain way. Yeah, and then 97 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh gosh, we're really doing this. 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: But we had a huge wedding business. Yeah, well, it's 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: kind of hard when you got brides going into Parlor 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: three and then there might be you never know who's 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: going to be sitting in the chair, and then somebody's 102 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, walking around with the wedding. It was some 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: crazy stories. There was a boudoir shoot happening in the 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: salon of course, right, and it goes um just saying 105 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: there's a girl laying on your like there's a girl 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, like no, she was making what 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, so so now, let's so that 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: was her final straw with weddings at Parlor three. So 109 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: she was like, we're going to put these over it. Okay, 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: I'll see why you did that. So we did that. 111 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And then it's a service. Say, you know, there's some 112 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: girls that have been there for four years. Amazing, it's 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Parlor's sister Salan got it, okay, when it gives these 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: young girls a great opportunity to come out of parlor 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: already making great money. To what's the fourth business? Well, 116 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: she has the collection, which is like a spa suite, 117 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: so there's like lashes and aesthetic services. Yeah okay, So 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: that's just kind of where you start with starting with 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: yah yeah yeah, and then under hunter page I might 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: scare a few months ago, like the gym down there. 121 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, we're not going any parking go 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: down here. So we had we did two hundred hair 123 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: my hair my gut for weddings last year. Oh my god. 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, it's it's more an event space, like, 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And so then what and then um, 126 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: there's also boothe rental for U stylist down there. Okay, 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: so maybe it's like six or seven anymore right now? 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm done all right that when I see 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: it that you're just like me. I just keep on 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: taking more and more and more and more. But I 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: love the hustle. And this is like, what's so inspiring 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: to me about your story? And we were talking a 133 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: little bit about this before, but you've always talked about 134 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: like you don't necessarily advocate for doing it the way 135 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: that you have, But you didn't finish high school. So 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: how in the world have you gotten from that to 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: where you are now? I don't know. I mean I 138 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: quit high school the end of my tenth grade year, 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: so what happened there? I just always knew I did 140 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: not like school. My dad was a school teacher. It 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was the whole thing, you know, And I was like, 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: this is not for me. I wanted to do hair. 143 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: You just knew. I knew. I mean, all my barbies, 144 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I was the only child had every barb we ever made. 145 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: The other hair I had like magic markers or liquid. 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: I wanted every Barbie had. I could not wait to 147 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: cut its hair. So it's like a Barbie. Yeah. And 148 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: then the kids in the neighborhood I would cut their hair. Yeah, 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: that's what. So you just always have done hair makeup. 150 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: That was your thing. So you quit high school, high school, 151 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: went to beauty school? Did go to beauties I didn't? 152 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: For your own didn't And my dad made me pay 153 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: for beauty school. How in the world as a high 154 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: school or do you pay for son? Mylane got it? 155 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: And didn't you work at a bar or something? Fer 156 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: me too? Was that legal? Probably not. I love that 157 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: Hunters actually giving us all the behind it all. Yeah, 158 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: but um yeah, so I had to pay my weight through, 159 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I worked as a like a attaining bed. 160 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: You know. Dad's like, if you're going to do this, 161 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: you're going to pay for it. Yeah, you just gotta 162 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: figure it out. What. I'm so glad I did that 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: that he did that, Yeah, because that made me, Like 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: my parents used to always say, like we're building character, 165 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: because they would make me do stuff that other kids 166 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: didn't have. To do and I hated it at the time, 167 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: but I know it's why I know how to work now, 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So when you you go 169 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: to beauty school and then you get out, like was 170 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: the hustle always there to do more than just work 171 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: in a salon and like build your own thing? I think? So, 172 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean I worked in this. I went straight to 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: work in a salon. I think I was a seventeen 174 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: or eighteen. I was already out of ut school at 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: the time people were graduating when I was supposed to graduate. Um, 176 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I did hair. I didn't love doing hair behind the chair. 177 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't me because I didn't want to be in 178 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the same place all the time. That's probably where all 179 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: this is came from. And then do you remember, um 180 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: it's not glamour shots, but it was expressions and photography. 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I remember glamor shot. Okay, so like that makeup at 182 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: not at the mall. It was at my salon. But 183 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: they would send these girls in and I'm not paying 184 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: good money back then, like really like back then that 185 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: was like I think I made like a hundred dollars 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: per person. Yeah, so you can crank out a lot, 187 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: cry and come out and I think that's why I'm 188 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: It's fast at what I do. And I was just like, 189 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: all right, I like this, I like this, you know. 190 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: And then it went to um, I met me Lennie 191 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Shelley Okay, who was another freelance here and makeup artist. 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Well she also owns are. She was an amazing song 193 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and Elenie had all these celebrities and stuff, and I 194 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: was kind of her assistant really, and then um, she 195 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: kept sending me out. Well she was busy Dixie Chicks, 196 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and so she would say, Hey, you gotta 197 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: go to Alan Jackson or you gotta go to Liam Walmack. Well, 198 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: it just kind of trickled on. Then you just kind 199 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: of became their person. People always ask me, I don't know, 200 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: if you have this question a lot, they'll be like, 201 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: how did you get in this business? And it's always 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: that it's like, not you met the right person. Yeah, 203 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: you really don't try. It's all about kind of who 204 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: you know. I didn't ever everyone want to know. I 205 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: wanted to be in the music business, right, just kind 206 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: of happen. So then you started traveling with people, Yeah, 207 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: and did you like that life? I'm not a big 208 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: travel person. Said, you do it all the time. I'll 209 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: call her and she's like in London and she's eating 210 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: room service experience just like but it's I mean, I've 211 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: had an amazing career, like think the places that most 212 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: people don't ever see. Yeah, So did you ever have 213 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: that moment where, um, I don't know, this is something 214 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I deal with, where I might be like, oh, I 215 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: didn't do it exactly the way that everyone else has 216 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: done it, and so you compare your journey and then 217 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: do you ever doubt yourself because of that? Or did 218 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: you always just know that, like, this is what I'm 219 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing and I'm gonna go do it. Yeah, 220 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: I just I didn't know I could actually make money 221 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: doing what I was doing, like, oh, they're gonna pay 222 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: me what? I don't know, I think being in this business, 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: and then I would find out, oh that that's pretty good, right, right? 224 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Are we just stuff for free to Yeah at the beginning, 225 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: for sure, I need a lot for free. But I 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: think I just knew that's what I wanted to do. 227 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: And I think the traveling helped me not feel like 228 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: I was stuck somewhere. Yeah, and none, I could never 229 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: do a job that's just it was like every time 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: someone started to slow down, somebody else to pick up. 231 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Somebody else will pick up. So I love that you said, Um, 232 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: the part about your house, you were like, we put that, 233 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, we put that up against the mortgage of 234 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: this place or whatever. You couldn't even pay rent the 235 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: first one. Because I think that people assume if you 236 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: start a business when I've been heard like my artist 237 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: have bought me Musselan you know, yeah, I know I 238 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: bought it and my house was more right, But like, 239 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: and so you're a successful person at that point in 240 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: your life, Like what made you be like, well, obviously 241 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Hunter was leaving, but you're like going to take this 242 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: huge risk and do that, Like what made you do that? 243 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't know. I think she's 244 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: not an overthink er. She's I mean, they kind of 245 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: say they pick up the pieces behind me Hunter. They 246 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: all do like, yeah, I just have this thing and 247 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: I go and then everybody and then you just make 248 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: it work. Yeah, and yeah, I get great ideas. Hunter 249 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: is probably the best because she'll go a good example. 250 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: I was going to name and we're not saying what 251 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: it was. I was gonna name parlors or something else. Okay, 252 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: and she's in high school, yeah, senior in high school 253 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: at this points, like, you cannot name it that And 254 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: my dad was like, but we already bought the LLC 255 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: and you know, which is expensive to yeah, very and 256 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: we didn't remember we bought them, you know, go daddy account. 257 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, you just can't get it. 258 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: We can tell the name. It's it's it's it's just 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: it's not. If there's anyone listening that has something similar, 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: it's not bad. It's just not you. It's not me. 261 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: And it was it was behind the scenes beauty, but 262 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't. It makes sense, it makes sense, 263 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: but you're right, like, it's not it's not a chic 264 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and like represents me, my all, my dad. So it 265 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: has me wonder where the three was. Okay, So I 266 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: was like, we just got to think about this a 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: little harder. So that's so elaborating. We bounds each other 268 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: out because I'm good at like really she has the 269 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: amazing ideas and kind of like reeler in a little bit. 270 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I love that. Well. I was going to start into 271 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: it because you were successful in your own right. Now 272 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: you have a lifestyle fashion travel blog called Hunter Primo 273 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: dot com. And that's your married names, so people aren't confused. Um, 274 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: but what did you learn? Just like always growing up 275 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: with a mom who just worked so hard and hustled. Well, 276 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: it's funny because we are very different, just like personality 277 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: after like kind of taking a step back, you know, 278 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: three years into this fashion and lifestyle career that I 279 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: didn't even know would be a possibility. I kind of 280 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: had a lot of similarities to her, and like starting 281 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: my own business and just like having no path or 282 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: like really no one to tell me what to do. 283 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: I just kind of I was working in pr I 284 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: was remember yea, and I loved it and I was 285 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: good at it. But I just, um, I didn't see 286 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: myself there ten years from from when I was not 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: used to tell her, you don't want to really be 288 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: in the music with this, Like I'm just saying it's 289 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: not an easy business. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so I 290 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: mean I knew like like Happily Gray and like these 291 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: some of these bloggers. Yeah, but I didn't ever think 292 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: that it could be like more day to day, like 293 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: my style was a little more casual. I just didn't 294 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: see anyone like that, and um, then I started to 295 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: get more and more opportunities with my blog, and I 296 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: was like, mom, Dad, like, I know, I went to 297 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: college and I know I had this degree and I 298 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: should be using it, but like, I think that I 299 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: can work hard enough to make this a full time job. 300 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: And on Cameron's a photographer, so the stars kind of 301 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: aligned on that. But it was before you got married 302 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: to Yeah. I was like, look, if I'm gonna do yeah, 303 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: And so you got nine months you don't have any bills, 304 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: and I did, like I started consulting people of social media, 305 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: like I picked up like odds and job just to 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: feel like I was contributing. And then like a year 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: it was it was my full time and I thank her. 308 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: Getting engaged and the wedding and all that. It was 309 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: just a story. And it was cool because like within 310 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: a year, I had like doubled my pr salary. So 311 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I was like, Oka, you know this because I'm a 312 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: very like driven person, so it felt good to like 313 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: have that accomplishment. I do think it's interesting because I 314 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: always say this about my mom. She's a school principal, 315 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: but she is like at the top of her game too, 316 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: and she's always just hustled and worked so hard. And 317 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that when I was little, 318 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: but when I've grown up now, it's like I don't 319 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: really even think about doing it, but I do it 320 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: all the time. So I do think you model kind 321 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: of what you see. Yeah, it's just inherently there. Because 322 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Cameron says that all the time. He's like, you don't 323 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: even realize how hard you work, and it inspires him 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: because things like that. And I think I was gone 325 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: and both of my parents worked from home like me 326 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and my dad was. He's had random jobs over there. 327 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: He was a private investigator, he was a pitching guide. 328 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: But he's always like been at home and worked from self. 329 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: They've always had their own hours. And I didn't even 330 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: realize that a death job wasn't me until I tried 331 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: it out, and I was like, okay, no, Like I 332 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: like to be my own boss, and I like that 333 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I do think a lot of 334 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: young girls think, oh, how cool this would be to 335 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: like have, you know, have my own blog, be my 336 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: own boss. But it's a lot of work. And I 337 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: think that that is the part that gets misunderstood a 338 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: lot about like what you do and what I do 339 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: and just any sort of social media things. So how 340 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: do you think that you balance um, just that, like 341 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: what what's your priority on a day to day basis? Yeah, 342 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean we're working on that every day. Like the 343 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: difference for working for yourself is like it never stops. 344 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Like and they're the same way with all their businesses, 345 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: like they're still dealing with you know, on the weekends. 346 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: We're still cranking, we're fixing things and whatever. And I 347 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, this entrepreneurial, self self employed life 348 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: is always like glamorized, but at the same time, it's 349 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: like you if you're at a desk job, you have 350 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: you know your task for that day and then you 351 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: can kind of go home and check out, check out, 352 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: And that's not the case at all. So I've I've 353 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: we're still working on a balance. But Cameron, I have 354 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: really gotten a system down where like if I need 355 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: things from because he's a full time photographer videographer on 356 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: its own, so if I need things for my blog 357 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: for him, I you know, write email on the list 358 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: you though, I'm sitting here right next year, and then 359 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: you kind of have to get on his schedule too. 360 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: But I mean, we're still working on the weekends all 361 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: the time and just figure it out, especially with the 362 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: baby on the way right, which congratulations by the way, Well, 363 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: it is kind of cool that you now have this 364 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: story to tell because I read on your website it 365 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: was that you started the blog basically as a way 366 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: to tell kind of y'all's engagement story and just I mean, 367 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: what a good way to like be able to put 368 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: put everything in one place for family and friends to see. 369 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: So was that the first thing you did? And then 370 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I kind of like this. Yeah, 371 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: I had a I was a journalism major at all 372 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: miss and I have a website just from college. And 373 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: then I was still living with them at the time, 374 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: and I like set at their kitchen table one day 375 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: and he proposed in Italy and he had all these 376 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: amazing photos and camera do isn't the best at like 377 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: self promotion. So I was like, I'm putting your web 378 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: photos on my website because he's great. And we wrote 379 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: about our travels and I really enjoyed it, but like 380 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: never in a million years, and I've only enjoy girl, 381 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: And that was one thing, like working in PR that 382 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: I thought i'd do more of like creative writing and 383 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: like you know, in my cullege journalism classes, I had 384 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of that, so I really started to miss 385 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: that creative out like that's why I started it. And 386 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: then people were like, oh, where's your I mean, I 387 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: think just what my what my mom did growing up? 388 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: People always asked makeup and lifestyle and fashion things. So 389 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: I kind of started like organically sharing that with no 390 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: idea what it could be. And then probably like six 391 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: months later, I was like, okay, Like I started getting 392 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: random boutiques wanting to work together and things like that. 393 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: So did it start with like local people reaching out, Yeah, 394 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I think like blush boutiques, Okay, cool, this is fun. 395 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: And then it got some money finally, yeah, yeah exactly, 396 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: and then it became more paid collaborations and people like 397 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: the coolest part was like these boutiques and um like 398 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: crystallized jewelry, like telling me how much like business they 399 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: saw from my audition from your stuff. I really like 400 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: started to feel more fulfilled in it. I think that 401 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: that's also a huge thing with influencers, as you know, 402 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: there can be some people who have it's a huge, huge, 403 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: huge followings, but it's really engagement that matters, and I 404 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: think brands are starting to figure that out too. It's 405 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: just like what is your actual engagement? Like, so how 406 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: do you stay authentic? Because I think something that's so oversaturated. 407 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: I know that I try to stay away from. But like, 408 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: you know, you see these people who will go on 409 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: a show or something and then they do every collaboration 410 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: that comes their way, and you know they're being paid, 411 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: So like, how are you staying authentic to your style 412 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: and who you are in your brand? I think because 413 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: I didn't start it initially like to make money, I 414 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't have any issue saying that's not it at all, 415 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: and I've just kind of stuck with that. Cameron is 416 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: also a really good one. I'll be like, hey, does 417 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: this Like I'm questioning this, And usually if I'm questioning it, 418 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: like he's like, that doesn't feel like something you would post. 419 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: And some of them are amazing brands. Like I was 420 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: listening to um Gal meets Glam. She had a podcast 421 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: and it was about just because you use something like 422 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: you may use this laundry charge every day of your 423 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: life and like genuinely mean it and love it, but 424 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: like that doesn't mean it's a good fit for your brand, 425 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: which is and she's stuck with me because I would 426 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: get you know, if some some brand reached out that's 427 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: the handsoaked I used. You're like, oh, kind of triggers like, oh, 428 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: I love that, but if you use it, yeah, exactly. 429 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: So I've kind of like always had that really true 430 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: to Like she's told me things like I've been offered 431 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: a lot of money, Like I love that about Hunter 432 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: because she's like, it's not me, and that's kind of 433 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: how I've always been. It's paid off. It's kind of 434 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: like me, I didn't work with somebody just because who 435 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: they were exactly. You just knew what I didn't. We 436 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't work. Yeah, and listen to country music, 437 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: you're like where you are by the way, I'm like 438 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: hip hop all the way. She only did carry speak 439 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: up for the first time because I watched American. I 440 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: have to say thanks to Hunter a lot for putting 441 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: me with So basically, Hunter is like your business concerned. 442 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't know eleven years old, and I was like, 443 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: they called me for it was when she was on idol. 444 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: She just wan and uh, she goes. I said, they 445 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: called me from that girl that you love on Idol, 446 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, she goes, Oh my gosh, Mom, 447 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: you have to I was like, Alan Jackson, I have 448 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: all these people this weekend. I can't turn them down. Well, 449 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: it ended up I could do her the last day 450 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and she was doing the opry and I actually had 451 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: to go get it ready and leave. That's hilarious. And 452 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh she was. She was 453 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: so shy, and I was just like, I did it 454 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: to get an autograph for Hunter. That's only now it's 455 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: like the months later they called me and they're like, yeah, 456 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: we'd like to put you on hold for like at 457 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: forty five days or something like okay, wow, and it's 458 00:22:54,840 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been fifteen years later. I think it 459 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: is so good that to remember, because that short fixed 460 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: right there of that check or that money or whatever 461 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: it is that's going to make your business grows, especially 462 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: when you work for yourself, is so enticing, you know so, 463 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: but you really feel like it's made your brand to 464 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: be authentic to you. Yeah, and now I feel like 465 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: it's paid off because I'm getting these longer term partnerships 466 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: that are figured than I even dreamed of at this point. 467 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: But it's because you know that brand, saw the influence 468 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: that my audience that I had on my audience for 469 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: that one particular campaign. So I really think in the 470 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: long run, it is pent work. It's kind of funny. 471 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: I've just told you this story. Yesterday, I'm at the 472 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: salon and like, four girls have these shoes on that 473 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: like I didn't order, but I'm meant to order, And yeah, 474 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: it's like, it's kind of crazy to think of the influence. Yeah, 475 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: for sure, I didn't even order those, and all these 476 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: girls have had once they're like, and I'm under influence. 477 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm not naturally like a super sales either, You're not 478 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: at all. And so I think that's why we're because 479 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: people know, like, I'm not gonna if I'm not I 480 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: don't like it, I'm not gonna talk about it. You're 481 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: just talking about stuff you like. Hunter. She's been recently 482 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: rediing a house. Are you just moved into a new house? 483 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm making one of my rooms 484 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: in my house a closet. So I keep being like, 485 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: let me just go see one perfect. Um, what do 486 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: you think the biggest obstacle? You both can answer this, 487 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: but what do you think the biggest obstacle to working 488 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: for yourself is knowing when stop, also when to let 489 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: go of things like Okay, what do you mean, Like 490 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm not grade at accounting, and for the longest time, 491 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: I just tried to do that all my own, so 492 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: like I thought I can learn this or even like 493 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: something is different, as like I'm not very good Pinterest 494 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: and I hired someone to manage my Pinterest account and 495 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: like she got me from you know, a hundred thousand 496 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: views to four point six million views, and I'm like 497 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: that was like so representative of things that I just 498 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: need to like hike out and let go of. And 499 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you're the same exact same way, probably 500 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: what do you mean, I'm just I like to do 501 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: it myself all second guests, if I give it to 502 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: somebody else, have an amazing like management team, Like I 503 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: feel like for the longest time she didn't even have 504 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: like management. She would just launches, right. I don't know 505 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: how I did. But but then don't you feel like 506 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: stuff just falls through the cracks, Like I'm realizing this now. 507 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm losing so much and letting so much 508 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: go because I'm trying to manage it and that's what 509 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: would happen. But when I finally got like I have 510 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: a management team of seven, now, oh gosh, they're gonna 511 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: do things like oh you're gonna do that, okay, but 512 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: it it's me letting letting go, like okay, and then 513 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I've got to great business manager. I try to do 514 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: all that. Don pay the bill in your zone of 515 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: genius literally about what else do it? So knowing what 516 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: your strengths are and knowing what your weaknesses are, how 517 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: did you get to the point of finally being like 518 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to hire a manager or whatever? It was like, 519 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: what was the making point for you? Oh? Gosh, I 520 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: had a few breaking I'm asking for me really literally, 521 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: like what was it? Of course me, I started way 522 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: too much, Like yes, I probably put a lot on myself, 523 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: but I like, I like to be busy, yeah if 524 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: I was not. She likes projects, projects. Yeah, but I 525 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what made it. Just like 526 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: it's Tom Like I think it just hit it. He 527 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: was like, super, okay, we need help. And the manager 528 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Sabeth was a stylist. It probably something that she already 529 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: knew and trusted and she was an easy transition. Yeah, 530 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: but then she stopped doing hair and so she's like 531 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: my full time manager. And then we put together's management team, 532 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: and I have like the best people, and it's just 533 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: kind of like kind of crazy because I would be 534 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: the ones they're on the weekends or whatever. But now 535 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, yeah, we already handled that. Or 536 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, and it took you a long time, it did. 537 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: It took me probably a long time. It's always so 538 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: nice to talk to people when they're on the other 539 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: side of the crazy and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm 540 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: so chill, but like in it, you know that feeling 541 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: when you're just like it just never stops, you know. 542 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: I opened Parlor three and literally had to open the 543 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: doors and go on the road for three for three weeks. 544 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Like when I opened this one, I forgot about that. 545 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Who ran You're like, I don't even know how. Everybody's 546 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: always said that I have just angels, like seriously truly, 547 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: because it is one of the most successful salons in 548 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: Nashville now, so that it's like crazy to think about. 549 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I think it's because Okay, I always say, like, a 550 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: look at my business as this family, Like Parlor three 551 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: is three of us. Yeah, I just don't treat it 552 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: like I don't know, you know what, I never paid 553 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: a dime for any sort of marketing or I didn't 554 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: do any of that. Like I didn't even she didn't 555 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: even have branding until last year. Like I was like, 556 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: let's it's time to like, you know, but like the 557 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: focus has always been on and the people who are there, 558 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: and not necessarily like because it's always been very busy 559 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: just because of her name, but like it's always been 560 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: focused on the people there, the employees there, and if 561 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: you're in it, you get it, and if not, you're 562 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh wait, what are all these businesses? 563 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: Or yeah, it is kind of confusing, but it's like 564 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: if you're in my by, you kind of like you 565 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: totally get it. I mean, my staff they're so happy, 566 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, but it's it's a long time to get 567 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: there too. Don't like the making Definitely, the past four 568 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: or five years has been probably the best. It's ever been. 569 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: More of a community down it's a community and everybody 570 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: like somebody's like getting married. It's like it's family. Yeah, 571 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: And I just think that I mean, I do think 572 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: they're sayingels over me because I didn't do that I 573 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: think at the times that I'm going, oh, my gosh, 574 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: how did we get through that? But don't you think 575 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of like what we were just saying, if 576 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: you stay true to yourself. But don't you think when 577 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: it's aligned with who you are supposed to be and 578 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be doing, it just figures itself out. 579 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: I think so yeah, And I think hunters a lot 580 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: like me too. I'm a giver and I like to 581 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: take care, like I do stuff all the time, like 582 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: people don't even know what I do for people. But 583 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: it's also like I want that to come out of 584 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: my business too. Yeah, you know what I mean. I 585 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: want that to be known, Like when you're at Muslima, 586 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: it's not stuffy. I want you to like your home, right, 587 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: you know. And it's a fine line because it started 588 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: with her being a celebrity hair makeup artist, So people 589 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: have that impression of like, oh, I bet that place 590 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: is so expensive, and like employees like they're like the 591 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: biggest like hodgepodge of people and all of the backgrounds 592 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and ethnicities, and like if somebody walks in, but they 593 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: do think that sometimes because they're coming in, Oh, that's 594 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: only celebrities together whatever. But it's not that way like 595 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: when they walk in, they're going to get created by 596 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Kathleen and just be like she's gonna be your best friend. 597 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Before you there was like some impression that like you 598 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: only had blondes for Royal and then and then you 599 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: walk in like everyone's like tatted up. It's so I'm 600 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: not like it's a variety of everyone. I think we 601 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: have more Brunett's now that we have blogged, So don't 602 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: judge the book by they were telling girls in beauty 603 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: school that like, oh, she only hires blog, don't even 604 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: try so. I mean I've definitely heard stay true to 605 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: yourself and just kind of own who you are. Is 606 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: there any other advice you would give to any you know, 607 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: even just like young girls wanting to find their own 608 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: path and if it's starting your own business or just 609 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: figuring out like how to stay in your own lane. 610 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you guys that comes to 611 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: mind about your journeys? Oh gosh, mine would just be 612 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: like if you have to force it probably isn't right, 613 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Like even if you're starting a blog, like you know, 614 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: I get girls all the time who reach out to 615 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: me when to start a blog and they feel like 616 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: they need to post certain clothes or certain brands, and 617 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: there's a million of those people out there. So it's 618 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: like if you have some unique that's like your own talent, 619 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: like do like if you know, like I think about Papa, 620 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: like her dad is a beekeeper. I'm like, if your 621 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: families into beekeeping, like talking about about it, you know, 622 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: that's a great You will always like force what they 623 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: feel like they should be doing when written reality, like 624 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: they would make more of an impact if it was 625 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: just like what was true to them. Well. And also 626 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: it's so oversaturated now that if you're just following in 627 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: someone else's footsteps, it's probably not going to make the 628 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: impact you're looking for. That is a really that's a 629 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: really good piece of advice. What do you think, Melissa, 630 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: I just think in our business, Yeah, I mean, I'm 631 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: just saying, like a lot of girls come to me up, 632 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: I want to do celebrities and do what you're doing 633 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But it's like one thing about me, 634 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: I stay true to who I'm with, you know what 635 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Like loyal, I'm loyal. Yeah, whatever said in 636 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: that room stays in that room, you know, what I 637 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: mean always, which that can be in any of his Yeah, 638 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: care celebrity or not, but you should carry that through Like, yeah, 639 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: I think that's I feel very confident of that. Yeah, 640 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: be true to yourself, but also be true to your 641 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: who you're with. You know what I said about you 642 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: too today I was talking to I was actually getting 643 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: my hair domum with my hairstyles, and I was talking 644 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: about you and I said, you know, it has always 645 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: been so nice about you to me. Is I always 646 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: felt really welcomed into the business from you, which is 647 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: not You've been in the business longer than me, and 648 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: that's not how it goes it, doesn't. You know, there's 649 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: a lot of I call used to call him the 650 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: old Crests. Unfortunately now I'm an old Cresty. But really, 651 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: and when you've been in the business for as long 652 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: as both of us has, like you definitely are a 653 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: little jaded and there's a couple you know, but like 654 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I always try to keep that in mom with the 655 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: young people coming in, because it felt like ship when 656 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: people were really rude, and I always felt very welcomed 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: by you and also um, like you were so confident 658 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: in your clients and who you know your people are 659 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: loyal to you too. That I wasn't a threat to 660 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's really important, I think, because 661 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: there's a space for everyone and like everyone has their lane, 662 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, we all have our different styles and that's 663 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: why you work with the clients you work with. But 664 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: I think I'm never worried about I never. I was never. 665 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: I was never competitive with people yetive like I didn't. 666 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't have that in my body. We didn't even 667 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: have time to do other people. So it's like I 668 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: just did what I did and I wasn't one that 669 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: went out after I had a family at home, like 670 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: right when I had on her, I was twenty years old. 671 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: So it's like I don't know, um just to say 672 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: I lost the thought, well, it's kind of like just 673 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: cheer people on. Always said that with everybody, I'm like 674 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: to share them on like there's there's enough hair, there's 675 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: enough influence, and I I don't think people realize like 676 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: how hard like a lot of her, like newer stylis, 677 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, just immediately whant to work with celebrities and 678 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: this and that, and she always has to like reel 679 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: them back in and be like I worked for years 680 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: to get right to start working for Carrie Underwear, And 681 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I explained that to people to like it's harder in 682 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: this day and time to get artists. Like I'm trying 683 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: to explain that if you do hair and makeup, go 684 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: to beauty school, get your license, or do a skin 685 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: or something, because it's not We do have a lot 686 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: of work, but it's coming now to where the artists 687 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: aren't paying as much as they used what I mean, 688 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: like the new artists, artists, they don't have the budgets. 689 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Budgets are not what they used to be by any means. 690 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've got half of my staffs or 691 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: like we want to do freelance. I'm like, well, good luck, 692 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: because I mean even something to supplement to Yeah, you 693 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: need the supplement because you're encouraging. You always tell them 694 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: to do it, but just maybe you want to still 695 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: the salon. But you're still got to have that extra 696 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: because I remember, like one time I'd be like I 697 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: have nothing for a month, and now what happened to me, 698 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: which is the same in our industry totally. So it's 699 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: kind of like you just gotta have that be open 700 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: to many things. I mean, we all did, which I 701 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: do want to talk about. I just realized you guys 702 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: jobs are like the perfect match of all of my jobs. 703 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: It's like I'm the summary of both of you. Really funny. Um. Well, so, 704 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: speaking of kind of building girls up, I think it's 705 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: so cool that you guys are as close as you are, 706 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: and I mean y'all are like best friends and are 707 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: always hanging out. So like, let's give some people to 708 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: tips on fun stuff to do about around Nashville. We 709 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: were talking earlier. Y'all were at the New Place on 710 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: Charlotte Right Market. She's hosting my baby shower at a 711 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: collective coworking space there, so we were checking out and 712 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: happily Mary Stores. These are some other influencers in Nashville 713 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: who have amazing blogs and they've both started stores, which 714 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: like surreal honestly for me to see that, Like they 715 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: have successful brick and mortar stores right, because you see 716 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of influencers start online. But like it's really 717 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: cool to see brick and mortars hard these days. Everyone 718 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: does everything. Everybody needs that your influencer, but you need 719 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: that next thing. Yeah, super encouraging to look forward to 720 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: something cool, to look forward that next thing that you 721 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: do whatever. So that place is called L n L Marketplace. 722 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: So if you're coming to visit Nashville, that's a really 723 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: cool place to go visit. I think it's a good 724 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: place to get a little taste of Nashville. Right. It's 725 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: almost like, um, have you've been to the factory in Franklin? Yeah, 726 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: that's another good one. I'm modern, you know, it's like 727 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: that kind of set up, breaking daughters in there. The 728 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: milkshake park, Well, it's all these days, yes, honest, coffees 729 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: in there. Ye at a popcorn place, and they're clearly 730 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm on the feed train. She's like, you gotta do 731 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Right now, I'm kind of regretting 732 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: not letting go to milkshake now. You wanted to share one, 733 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: and I was like I shouldn't get there. You go, 734 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: you guys go back? What else? What else do you 735 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: guys like to do? Do you have any favorite restaurant? 736 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: At a brunch? Yeah? I took her on a hike 737 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: the other day. Where did you go high? We went 738 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: to Radner. Okay, she's laughing because I don't work out 739 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: or do anything, and you're like the tiniest I've ever seen, 740 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: but I don't, and so she's like, hey, I'm just 741 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: trying to get her a little healthier. I'm being here. 742 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 1: It takes a wow, but she's more like the mom 743 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: mostly trying to ruin me in. But we like to, 744 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean honestly, just like a shot together. But I 745 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: enjoy just like when we go for the like today 746 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: we were doing the baby shower stuff and but yeah, 747 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: just hung out and kind of walking around. We also 748 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: now live like six minutes apart, so worries are at 749 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: her house or they'll come by our house. Everybody like 750 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: you only go to dinner and then Cameron's parents lives 751 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: six minutes the other way. It's like a huge family affair. 752 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: And I'm still be kind of nice to have you know, 753 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: the parents. When are you do Hunter? Oh my gosh, 754 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: it's eating a side. I love them. If you guys 755 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: are interested in pregnancy stuff or nursery building, you can 756 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: go check out all of that stuff. Hunter has been 757 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: really good about documenting all of that on the Hunter 758 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: Primo dot com. Right, what's your Instagram hand at Hunter Primo? 759 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I was speaking of shopping. If 760 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: you want to do some shopping, I guess you covered definitely, 761 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean Hunter's style. I would describe you as like 762 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: a bohemian kind of free spirit with a little edge 763 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: that yeah, a little little western flares. Yeah, it's very Nashville. 764 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel like your blog is a very good summary 765 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: of a good Nashville style because she does affordable stuff. 766 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: But there might be some expensive people, but you, you're 767 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: pretty everybody could buy something, right you talk about or whatever? Yeah, 768 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: the mix and match of the highslows. And then also 769 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: speaking of shopping, if people, I mean Melissa another job. 770 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: She's an amazing painter. So you actually did some art 771 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: from my office, which I've posted about before. And then 772 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to post again a picture of three of 773 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: us in front of your painting in my office. But 774 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: where can people find it? Because it got picked up 775 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: by a couple of places right, So yes, In a 776 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: weird random I was doing backdrops for hair pictures so 777 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: do the social media for Parlor three, and I was like, 778 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: we need some backdrops. She's like yeah, And I was 779 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: sending her like once to order and she's like, oh, 780 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: I can buy I can make something better than that, 781 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: and so she started making Michaels. You're just like through 782 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: never forget though when I did it, Like when I 783 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: do something like yeah, it happens. It's like if I've 784 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: got some things off, it's happen. It's not going to 785 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: be that like I'll go that night or right there 786 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: and talk about it. And I random Michaels and I 787 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: bought like ten campus, those giant campus and my mom 788 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: and I put in my house in my dining room. 789 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: I just started going to town just painting. Didn't shower 790 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: for two days, like he did a thing of Picasso 791 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: in me, and I'm like, I didn't like it was bad. 792 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: It just started. And then I sold him at part 793 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: like people wanted all yeah, whatever, and then the buyer 794 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: for Kirkland's is a customer mustlant here's art is this. 795 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm like me, I had an off weekend and so 796 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: I mean I enjoy art though, that's that's my outlet. Though, well, 797 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean you do make up, which everyone you know 798 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: has always said to me, it's kind of like you're 799 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: a painter because you really do. Look at it. It's 800 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: like a canvas canvas, the colors mix, contouring all of it. 801 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: I just turned my phone off and I'll just scarily 802 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: garage and my garage. You don't want to go up. 803 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: It's like the fish and hunt and it hath glitter. 804 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: That's like the very hasn't went fishing one day and 805 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: he went rod and when he did go glitter, I 806 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: hope he was by himself and that with guys are 807 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: like like all glitter flying. I was like, I'm sorry, 808 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: that's the cameras. Every time she comes over, she just 809 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: leaves a trip. But we're not sure what You're just 810 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: literally exploding glue at all times. We're starting and it's 811 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: just fun. But like I have them at Parlor three 812 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: where you can buy Okay, um, is there a website? No, Hunter, 813 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: they're still on the Kirklands website. Ok. But I think 814 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: we're going to redo. I'm talking to Kirklands again, so 815 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll do another. Don't you post about this on 816 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: your social media though a lot? So if you do 817 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: some updates and what is your handle on social media? 818 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Is it just to look at and Osker. You're gonna 819 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: have to spell your lives name though it's Melissa Schliker, 820 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: but it's can you spell that h L E I 821 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: C H G R okay Schliker to premose a lot. Yeah, 822 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: it's from white to you, it's like, yeah, it's serious. Well, 823 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: I love you guys. Thank you all for being here. 824 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: And you guys check out both Hunter and Melissa and 825 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: also be on the lookout firm list his paintings coming 826 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: back soon and if you want to spend some money, 827 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: ghost shop Hunters. All right, thank you guys for listening. 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