WEBVTT - Life, Laughs, and Taking on the Left with Dave Rubin 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.800 So I've got a fun one for you guys for 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.320 this episode. It's my friend Dave Reuben. You know him 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.040 from the Ruben Rapport, you know him from Fox, you 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.319 know him from the books he has written. He wrote 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.079 Don't Burn This Book. It was a New York Times bestseller. Well, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.520 I have become friends with him. We are both Floridians, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.239 we both live in the Miami area. He's a ton 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.040 of fun, really smart guy. So I'm just really looking 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:28.600 forward to this conversation. We're gonna have fun talk about life, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.200 but also get into a lot of these serious issues 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.640 as well. Uh. Dave's got a book out that coming 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:40.080 out right now called Don't Burn This Country, Surviving and 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.239 Thriving and Our Woke Dystopia, where he goes through some 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.080 of the antics of the left and what we on 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.879 the right should do about it. He's a former leftist, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.920 but he has seen the light. He has come around, uh, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.160 and now he's trying to preach the gospel to to 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.760 people who don't get it yet. He's also on tour, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.640 Don't Burn This Country Tour. He's had some amazing guests, 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.120 people like Don Jr. He's got Governor de Santis coming 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.000 up as well. He also started Locals, which merged with 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.840 Rumble if he didn't have enough on his plate, and 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.440 everyone's always like, oh, you know, go out and build 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.840 your own thing, do this conservatives. Well, he did it, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.600 and he did it successfully. So I'm really looking forward 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.800 to this conversation. He's an awesome dude. I've been fortunate 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.720 to get to know him here in Miami. So I 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.720 really hope you enjoyed the conversation, and I hope you 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:42.080 enjoyed the show. So I am so stoked about this 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.280 guest because he's my friend and he's awesome. Dave Reuben, 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.960 nice to have you on the show, my friend. I 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.600 like that intro. He's my friend and he's awesome. People 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.680 always say he needs no introduction, that's the thing I 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.360 keep getting lately. But I like he's my friend and 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.880 he's awesome. That's that's sort of capsuletes all things. We'll 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.640 see the beauty of this show as we do the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.760 intro before, because I don't want to, like, you know, 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.680 go through all the things with the so so it's 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.760 like I do that for you guys, so you don't 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.840 have to sit through hearing, uh, you know, the different stuff. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.920 So I do this simple short start and then we 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.440 do like the longer later. But I was telling you 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.320 we went to the tennis to SUSA for a two 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.040 thousand mules last night and I overserved myself. So my 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.760 apologies to you and the audience. I'm it's self inflicted. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.440 But I have a little on the struggle bus. Today. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.200 We get through this thing at mar Lago, which is 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.720 in West Palm here in Florida, and you know, we're 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.560 at the beginning of May in Florida. This is my 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.600 first spring and into summer here in Florida, and I'm 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.560 told it's going to get very hot and very humid. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.359 So I got there and I just assumed this thing 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.160 was going to be a c indoors, you know, nice 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.400 and chili and all these fancy people in their tuxedos. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.480 And we get out there and it's blair ring hot. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.240 It's outdoors. The bars are like baked in the sun. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.600 Everyone is dripping. And Lisa, were you there for the 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.520 guy who fell in the pool? Did you see that? 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.080 So I didn't see it, but I saw the aftermath, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.320 and I I'm just glad it wasn't me. But because 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.080 there's nothing worse than like being wet and you're you know, 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.399 like it's just a terrible feeling. So I feel bad 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.920 for that guy. I've got I've got sympathy for him. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.640 But but fortunately I was you know, I stayed away 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.840 from the pool area, so I was good. I can 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.440 I can confirm to the audience it was not you. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.760 It was a rather portly fella. And but he came out. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.400 He had a big smile on his face. Everyone gave 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.120 him a round of applause, and it's all good. But 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.200 we've been fortunate because I've gotten to know you more 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.160 since now we're both Floridians. And what's hilarious is you 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.920 as a good friend. We were trying to set me 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.560 up with someone, which is a sign of a good 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.080 friend because you want to you want to take care 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:53.760 of me. You don't want me to be old and 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.360 alone and have like thirty cats at some point. So 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.720 it's like it's a sign of friendship, you know. But 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.320 hilarious is you're like telling about this guy and then 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.320 I'm like, oh my god, I did it didn't work out? 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.520 That's very kind of you. Well, so so you know, look, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.440 you're you're awesome. I just think you're great. You're obviously 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.480 gonna find a great guy with the time is right. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.039 But you know, a few months ago you said that 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.000 you were single, and you're kind of you know, you're looking. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.680 So I happened to be out one night with my 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.800 friend Douglas Murray, who you may know. He's a great 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.000 British conservative author, and he introduced me to this other 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.320 guy and we're out having drinks and the guy's he's 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.800 very handsome, he's a he's a model, and he seems 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.120 to get it politically. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.039 this guy is pretty bright, he's on the ball. Young 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.440 guy seems about Lisa's age. I think they'd really hit 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.360 it off. So I text you before I even say anything. Oh, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.080 I asked the guy if he single. He says he's single. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.680 And then I text you. I said, Lisa, send me 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.520 the hottest shot that you got right now, and I 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.320 think this is the one. And you sent me. You know, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.960 you're off. You're on a balcony somewhere and the wind 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.279 is blowing in the air is blowing. You look rather stunning. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.159 And I show it to the guy. I said, I 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:02.600 think I got the girl for you. I show him 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.360 the picture and he's like, you're not going to believe 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:12.920 that I dated her. I know, but it was so 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.960 continued to try. But you know what I said to myself, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.320 I said that Dave Ruben, he's a friend, and so 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.960 I appreciate. I was looking out, I was looking up. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.880 But you're gonna You're gonna find a great guy. You know, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.480 it's just obvious, you know, I know, it's it's a 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.279 little harder. I mean, that really is true. You know, girls, generally, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.880 I've found UM girls usually in there sort of let's say, 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.960 mid twenties into their thirties and even beyond that better 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.800 single usually have their stuff together way more than the 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.359 guys do. We definitely are in this weird thing in 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.800 America right now where guys are in like a more 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.800 of a slow maturation process. I think that might be 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.200 changing a little bit, and it probably definitely is changing 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.839 when it comes to more of like a conservative set 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.280 of guys. UM. But I know a lot of great 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.760 girls that are having trouble just finding guys who kind 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.560 of have their stuff together, who maybe do a little 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.640 bit of the Jordan's Peterson stand up straight with your 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.360 shoulders back and you know, get yourself into the world 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.479 in a sensible way. So I know a lot of 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.479 cool girls and that, and then that that makes it 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.000 obviously tougher because the pool then becomes a little bit 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.520 thinner if you're in the market for a dude. Well, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.480 I feel like it's harder when you get older because 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.880 you're looking for different things in life, right, Like it's 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.679 not you're not just looking to like go on dates 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.680 and have fun whatever, like You're you're looking for, Okay, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.080 is this Could this person be a husband? Could this 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.000 person be a father? You know, like you just don't 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.840 have as much time to like waste with someone, so 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.680 you just become like a little more judicious in the process. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.480 But that's probably because I didn't do those things earlier, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.839 is probably what I'm saying. Seven. So I wish I 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.680 wish I had gone to that, you know, conclusion. But 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.080 you know, it's it's all good in life. I appreciate that. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.719 And we've we've been fortunate because we live in the 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.680 state of Florida. I mean, how much do you love 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.159 being a Floridian? I freaking all love it. I mean, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.800 like beyond love it. I know how much you love it. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.360 I know how much everyone here that now has trans planted, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.960 and I know an awful lot of refugees how much 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.520 they love it. But I don't know that there's anyone 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.520 that has loved every minute of living in Florida more 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.640 than me. I got here about now, it's about five 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.400 months ago or so, and I wake up every morning 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.640 and the sun is shining, and the frogs are croaking, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.640 and the lizards are climbing around, and my dog's going 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.720 crazy to these, hunting all of them. And you know, 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.680 the spirit of freedom here, I mean the smiling faces 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.680 after living in Los Angeles, especially for the last two 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.840 years of COVID, where you never saw people everyone, and 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.800 when you rarely did, they were just so depressed and 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.080 anti social and there was such a depression in terms 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.440 of the economic activity, and everything was closed and dirty 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.760 and homelessness and all of the broken windows, all the stuff. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.120 And you come here and you and I both live 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.040 in the Miami area and it's clean and it's nice 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.160 and even like just the trees and the leaves, everything 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.520 feels so good. And then the fact that you know, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.560 for for people like you and me, Lesa like to live, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:01.680 to do what we do for a living, where we 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.440 talk about politics and you know, to live in a 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.440 place that is in line with our politics. I really forgot, 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.560 having lived lived in California, how when you live in 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.560 a place that's so disconnected from how you actually believe 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.400 and want to live, it does great on you over time. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.200 And I was at a one eighty opposite with basically 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.760 everyone at a public level in California, whether it was 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.680 my mayor Eric Arsetti or the crazy psycho governor Gavin Newsom. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.920 And I did everything I could to get the guy recalled, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.559 and then I campaigned with Larry Elder. It obviously didn't work, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.480 and then that was the last straw. I got audited 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.000 by the state three days later, and I said, that's it. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.120 I'm out of here. And it was the best decision 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.240 I ever made. Well, and then that was I mean, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.840 that was kind of crazy for them to But we're 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.640 saying this all the time though, I mean, like the 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.480 government just politically going after uh, you know, people who 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.960 don't subscribe to their leftist bus and it's it's but 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.160 it's only it seemingly only goes one way. You know, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.360 these people are, They're exactly what they all purported Trump 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.000 to be. They all thought Trump was going to use 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.600 the levers of the state to punish his opponents and 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.440 people down and blah blah blah. And meanwhile it's like, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.160 you know what, it was actually the I R S 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.040 under Obama Lowis Learner that was hunting down the Tea 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.400 Party groups because they didn't like what they were doing. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.760 In this case, it was me campaigning obviously to get 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.280 Gavin Newsom recalled with Larry Elder, who was a great, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.800 great man. And then I get audited. So this is 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.840 what they do. And that's just like, that's just one 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.840 oh one for what the left is up to these days. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.160 They accuse you of doing exactly what they're doing, but 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.800 it's so much more overt now. I mean, they quite 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.240 literally have a ministry of truth and you know, just 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.520 but the wheel, the wielding of the guard. I just 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.760 feel like a lot of times before there was at 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:49.000 least some effort to conceal like this totalitarianism, communism, authoritary 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.400 and now they're just overt with it. They don't even 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.800 care anymore. There's no attempt to hide like the abuse 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.400 of power and their their hatred for us. Isn't there 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.960 something kind of refreshing about that? O Like it really 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.880 is out in the open right now. There's you know, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.920 I do it on my show all the time. It's like, man, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.439 I wish I could count the remaining good liberals, the 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:14.040 remaining sort of somewhat sane moderate Democrats, and you know, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.839 I can usually do it all on one hand because 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.679 you've got Tulsi who's completely on the outs from her 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.360 own party because she is a moderate. And then you know, 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.800 maybe you've got half a bill Mare depending on what 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.720 day it is, and you know, okay, there's sort of 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.880 Barry Wise every now and again. But the point is 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.559 there are no moderates left. They've let the inmates run 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.760 the asylum. But I think in some ways it's making 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.040 our job easier because you know, whether you're a libertarian 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.880 or conservative or you're just an ex liberal or something 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.360 like that, it's like, man, we're happier. I think we 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.760 have a better sense of really what reality is and 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.280 what the world is. And that's been an interesting thing 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:50.880 for me. You know, we have a we have a 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.160 fun crew here of you know, like internet personalities that 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.440 we've gone to dinners with and hung out with and stuff, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.800 and it's like these people are happy, and it doesn't 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.360 we have some political difference is but nobody cares. It's 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.080 just it's just irrelevant to to us all trying to 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.920 live happy lives and do good work and you know, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.199 make Florida the best part and that it can be well. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.920 I think Tucker recently said that the left is now 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.080 the party of weak men and unhappy women, which I 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.800 think pretty much. But they really do just seem miserable. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.080 And you know, you used to be a progressive. You 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.280 obviously aren't miserable, You're amazing, But what was that turning 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.760 point for you when you're just like, you know what, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.719 this just doesn't drive with me anywhere. I don't subscribe 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.440 to this, Like what what was it for you? That's 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.520 sort of just kind of set that that light bulb 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.360 off in your head. I mean, there were a lot 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.040 of things it was sort of it was I think 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.800 what happens to a lot of people. It's similar to 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.160 what happened to me, which is there's a bunch of 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.880 slow motion things and then suddenly something that completely tips 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.240 you over and you're like, holy cow, that really just happened. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.160 That's why that's why they call it the red pill, 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.960 because you have like these hints that something is up. Uh, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.319 sort of like Neo had before the moment, and then 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:00.920 you take the red them then you go, wow, I 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.760 really was seeing things backwards. Uh. There's a few moments 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.400 for me. Most famously was this moment where I was 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.360 still on the left and I had Larry Elder on. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.120 This is now seven years ago or so, and we 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.280 we were talking about systemic racism and he just beat 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.880 me senseless with facts and I wasn't armed to fight 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.720 back because I was a lefty and what lefties do 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.160 is you just say something and you think because you 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.600 say it, it's true. So you say systemic racism, and 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.680 then you think, oh, I said it, so it must 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.960 be true. Everyone says it's systemic racism, it's systemically racist. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.600 And he really went after me with stacks and statistics 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.280 and figures, and instead of doing what the knee jerk 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.040 lefty thing is, which is yelling at him and calling 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.400 him a racist whatever, I just kind of listened and 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.080 this all happened live on camera, and from that moment 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.560 I started just being willing to talk to some of 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.160 the people that I thought were my opponents. So you know, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.880 soon after that, I had the scary Glenn back on, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.280 and I had the scary Dennis Praeger and the very 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.600 very scary five ft seven Ben Shapiro. And what I 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.080 realized was, well, I had some political different disagreements with them, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.480 but they were nice people, and I actually thought that 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.440 they were quite thoughtful and um and in many ways 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.440 generous of spirit. Now that I've become friends with all 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.720 of them, I find them to be great people. So 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.040 you just need one moment that kind of tips you over. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.640 And I think the challenge for us always is getting 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.280 people to that moment, you know, if you can just 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:29.960 leave them long enough and then they have to just 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.720 kind of get that last moment themselves well. And there's 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.720 people like that that are on the cost, Like you 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.079 look at people like Baumert. I know you've talked about 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.880 this on your show. You know, you've got people like 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.880 bou Mar who you know makes a lot of sense 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.840 a lot of the time, but he just can't seem 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.800 to completely come around. You know, It's like, why why 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.480 do you think he can't completely what? What's blocking? Is 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.080 it just you know, for publicity, worried about losing street 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.560 credit or why can't some of these people just fully 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.640 like they're they're at the cost, right? I think they're 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.320 right there, but they just can't get there complete. He's 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.560 kind of the most interesting case. And that's why I 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.480 talk about him so much, because, you know, he's been 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.720 the standard bearer for liberalism in America for thirty years 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.840 at least, it's actually more than thirty years, and now 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.120 at this point between politically and correct and real time 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.680 and doing stand up. Before that, he was the sort 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:21.080 of most outspoken political comedian. We had George Carlin before him, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.640 but in terms of like cultural irrelevance, and obviously George 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.960 Carlin passed away ten years ago or whatever. Um, Bill 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.960 mart you know what he seems to do now is 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.360 he gets everything two years too late. So, you know, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.760 in the last couple of months, he's suddenly speaking out 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.440 against the gender stuff, but we've all been talking about 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.960 it for a couple of years. He's talking out against 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.560 critical race theory in schools, but we've all been talking 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.240 about it for a couple of years. In the last 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.960 few weeks he started talking out against blockdowns and masks. Again, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.720 we've all been talking about it for two years. Um. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.000 You know, he's been consistently good on free speech, so 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.160 i'll give him that one. Um, But at the same time. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.680 You know, this is a guy who said in the 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.320 middle of the Trump presidency that he wanted or session 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.680 because it would take out Trump. And it's like, well, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.080 you ended up supporting by it, and then congratulations, we 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.480 basically have a recession. I think for Bill Maher and 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:12.080 for a lot of the liberals, there's two. I think 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.360 there's three things, really, but I think there's two that 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.760 become almost intractable and that's why they don't get to 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.360 the end. I think the first one is often they 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.600 don't think through the issues, so they so one issue 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.880 that keeps getting them is the welfare state. They think 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.560 that they're good just because they think taxes should go 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.240 to help poor people. I would say in that one, 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:30.720 all they have to do is read the Thomas Soul 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.000 book or just basically any libertarian economics economists to understand 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.000 why that doesn't work. So I think I think we 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.400 can probably move them past that, and I do see 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.040 some movement there. The two that I think of the 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.680 real issue, and one is very unique to build one 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.480 is the one is the issue that's hot right now, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.760 which is abortion. Um, they've really the less has really 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.760 fetishized abortion in such a twisted way. And I say 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.080 this as someone that's begrudgingly pro choice at least for 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.720 a few weeks. Um they're they're so obsessed with abortion 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.920 and they think that there were publicans just want to 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.520 control women or something like that. That that's one, that's 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.200 the big one. And then for Bill, I think there's 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.360 another one, which is that he's gone so in the 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.640 atheist thing for so long and so mocked religion and 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.360 believers were so long. I think it would be a 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:20.280 real weird moment for a guy like him to fully 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.480 admit that actually the people that are defending all of 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.400 the things that he has fought for, who are defending 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.240 all his liberal beliefs about free speech and rationality and 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.560 all that, well, guess what it turned out to be 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.960 those crazy religious people. So I think he's got a 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.440 big comment that And then I would throw in one 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.240 more with him, which is that he's he's a product 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.400 of Hollywood and he wants to go he likes Hollywood parties. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.680 He throws a lot of Hollywood parties. I've seen him 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.080 at Hollywood parties like he likes that thing. And if 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.080 you want to stay in that thing. And the guy's single, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.680 he's a lifelong bachelor and never had kids. You know, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.800 it's like, if he wants that thing, if that thing 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.920 is his life, well they're not going to tolerate the 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.880 other part of that. Trust me, I know, I mean, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.520 you know, I'm on me out for that thing, and 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.120 it's it's fine with me. Quick commercial break back with 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:09.199 my friend Dave Reuben. On the other side, when you 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.199 had mentioned, you know, Bill Maher wanting a recession to 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.760 try to get rid of Trump. But this, that's sort 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.679 of that's sort of the embodiment of the left right, 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.040 like they always subscribe to this notion that the ends 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.639 always justify the means. And we just saw, you know, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.000 you also talked about abortion. We just saw, you know, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:30.120 someone leaked the reverse Wade draft opinion, obviously with intention 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.640 to try to put pressure on the justices, to put pressure, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.440 just like they did with Kavanaugh when you had senators 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.000 needing security because their lives were at risk. Why why 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.680 is that so specific to the left, where they're they're 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.159 just so unafraid to push for violence or or to 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.239 blow up norms, blow up institutions to try to get 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.320 their way. Why why do why do you think that's 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.159 more specific to them or why do they do that. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.679 I actually think it's a very very clear and honest 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.639 reason for it that if you if you ask people 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.320 on the right, what are they believed, what is the 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.360 purpose of America? Like, what's what's actually going on here? 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.840 Most people on the right, and I'm talking about people 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:11.200 who really understand the issues, they believe in individual rights, 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.960 Like that's like the fundamental building block of what the 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.720 West is, It's fundamental building block of our founding documents 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.199 that you, as a free person in a free society, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.280 you're the root of the thing. It starts with you. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.040 And then that you should have very little government control 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.639 over what you do beyond that. And unfortunately both parties 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.800 Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats have have etched 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.920 away at that over the years. But broadly speaking, people 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.320 on the right believe in the individual. They believe that 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.800 you are unique and you have value. What has happened 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.199 with the left, unfortunately, and this is a product of 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.119 the last twenty or thirty years, because this is not 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.560 a product of say the sixties. Less h is that 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.719 collectivism has taken over. So once you once you are 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.520 obsessed with collectivism and that your your skin color and 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.119 your gender into sexuality and all that stuff that that 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.160 is the the main important thing about you. Well, then 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.440 you're just a cog in the system. And if you're 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.800 just a cognist system, everyone else is just a cognist system. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.320