WEBVTT - ATTORNEY GECK (ft. AttorneyTom)

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<v Speaker 1>Aw from Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Jay, Yeah real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Real real quick? Yeah, how quick?

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<v Speaker 4>Well here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, how quick, real quick? How quick?

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<v Speaker 5>Is this?

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to know about the pickup deal?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you still doing the seven ninety nine pickup deal?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, here's what I'm gonna tell you're reading right now,

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<v Speaker 3>is I will I will, I will engage with this bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But are you prepared to after doing the bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>provide me with I'll do the bit. But if we're

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna do the bit and then afterwards, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give me anything of substance, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do the bit. If you can promise

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<v Speaker 3>me that after you do this bit, they'll there'll be something,

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll do it. I'll I'll yes, and your bit.

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<v Speaker 6>So the pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I gave you an opportunity. I gave you a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>I gave you a crossroads. I gave you two options, Jay,

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<v Speaker 3>and you chose the one that you chose one. I

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<v Speaker 3>gave you a chance, Jay, I gave you a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>You could have done it. You could have done your bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I gave you an option in which we could.

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<v Speaker 7>I fucking compromised for you, Jay, and you didn't take it.

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<v Speaker 7>Why we both would have won in that scenario and

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<v Speaker 7>you still said, no, why Jay?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yo?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Lyle, this is the GEK. This is me

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm in my house and I'm recording an intro

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<v Speaker 3>to the Therapy Ecko podcast. You just heard what happens

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<v Speaker 3>when you try to prank call into the show. But

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<v Speaker 3>also it's fine. Look, I don't want to detract people

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<v Speaker 3>from prank calling into the show because sometimes I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>why not. Look, you can do anything you want. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna I'm not here to tell you what you

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<v Speaker 3>can and can't do, what shows you can and can't

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<v Speaker 3>print call. I'm just showing you an example of someone

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<v Speaker 3>who tried and I'm assuming, according to his metrics, failed

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. You might be more successful than him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's why I want you. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>I want it to be open for you to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to try. That's why I'm not saying don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, here's a case study. Okay. Anyway, welcome,

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<v Speaker 3>this is I'm very excited about this episode. Last week

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<v Speaker 3>we had Attorney Tom here. Attorney Tom is the most

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<v Speaker 3>famous catastrophic injury lawyer on TikTok Okay, that means he well,

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<v Speaker 3>he explains better what it means than I do. But

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<v Speaker 3>it means that he doesn't do, you know, just fender

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<v Speaker 3>benders and car accidents. You know, he only does you know,

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<v Speaker 3>real shit, real crazy injuries. So he'll explain that in

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<v Speaker 3>the next little bit. But yeah, he was awesome. We

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<v Speaker 3>had a great time. He was a great guest. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about all kinds of things, all kinds of calls.

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<v Speaker 3>We spoke with a career arsonist and masturbader. We were

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<v Speaker 3>pitched on the idea of getting rid of all traffic laws,

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<v Speaker 3>and we heard a tale of a very spicy encounter

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<v Speaker 3>underneath a bridge. All great stuff. Tom was awesome. And

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<v Speaker 3>then in the second half we talked about all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things. You know, I had a pretty serious call,

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<v Speaker 3>rare serious call with a musician having a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an identity crisis. So stick around for that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to call into the show, I stream

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<v Speaker 3>every Monday Wednesday Friday at ten pm Eastern Standard Time

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<v Speaker 3>on twitch dot tv slash lyle Forever, So go check

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<v Speaker 3>that out. But anyway, yeah, this was an awesome episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm super excited about it. I hope you guys enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love you and hail Satan and God is

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<v Speaker 3>dead and enjoy I'll talk with you soon. So, Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>you were saying, we were chatting earlier and you were

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<v Speaker 3>telling me that you mainly do catastrophic injury. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>do like, you know, car accidents and fender benders, just

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophic accidents.

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<v Speaker 8>You said, yeah, correct, I'm a catastrophic personal injury lawyer.

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<v Speaker 8>What that means is pretty straightforward. I deal with clients

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<v Speaker 8>who are severely injured and just by happenstance. A lot

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<v Speaker 8>of the times people get severely injured or an incident

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<v Speaker 8>such as you know, explosions or eighteen wheeler collisions. The

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<v Speaker 8>biggest case I'm working on right now is a six

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<v Speaker 8>hundred foot Norwegian oil tanker collided with an eighty one

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<v Speaker 8>foot shrimping boat, killing three of the four people on board.

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<v Speaker 8>I represent the only survivor and one of the deceased semen.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's the kind of stuff I do. People do

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<v Speaker 8>call my office with like fender bender, that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>and we do, you know, like we have like I'll

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<v Speaker 8>take those cases or give them you know, have other

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<v Speaker 8>lawyers work on them, but the cases that I spend

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<v Speaker 8>my time on are catastrophic personal greet cases.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you deal with like, you know, are people

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<v Speaker 3>constantly coming to you and like, you know, severe traumatic distress?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so so it just it just depends if it's

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of the times it's the family who's making

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<v Speaker 8>the first inclination or the first inquiry, the first round

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<v Speaker 8>of vetting too, because somebody's either in the hospital or

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<v Speaker 8>they're just not in the right frame of mind. And

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<v Speaker 8>and to be quite honest, and I don't blame them

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<v Speaker 8>when you when your life gets turned upside down, the

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<v Speaker 8>last thing you wanted you to think about is suing.

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<v Speaker 8>You're thinking about, you know, when can I get healthy again? Right,

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<v Speaker 8>So it's a little bit of everything, and and the

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<v Speaker 8>trauma doesn't go away. You know, if you've ever met

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<v Speaker 8>somebody who's had a life altering injury, it's oftentimes not

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<v Speaker 8>the first five months that are the hardest. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 8>from six months five years later, which is the hardest

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<v Speaker 8>when they're with where there's no pain and they just

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<v Speaker 8>have to adapt to their new reality, whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 8>Whether it's not having an arm or not having a

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<v Speaker 8>leg or whatever. You know, when there's no immediate pain

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<v Speaker 8>where they don't need immediate care, it's the mental the

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<v Speaker 8>pain and suffering, the mental fortitude that they need to

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<v Speaker 8>keep going is often, you know, it's most tested at

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<v Speaker 8>that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something you find yourself having to like testify

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<v Speaker 3>about a lot, is like, you know, share the trauma

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<v Speaker 3>that people have had as far as like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>their mental injuries.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. Sure, So I'll give you a great example of that.

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<v Speaker 8>Last September, so a year ago, actually a year ago

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<v Speaker 8>this week, on September thirtieth or thirty first, I was

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<v Speaker 8>part of a trial and eighteen wheeler collision. We got

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<v Speaker 8>a very very good verdict for our client. Twelve million,

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<v Speaker 8>four hundred and fifty thousand dollars verdict for our client.

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<v Speaker 8>She was injured in an eighteen wheeler incident. And if

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<v Speaker 8>you looked at her right now and at the trial,

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<v Speaker 8>you cannot find anything wrong with her. She looks like

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<v Speaker 8>a normal person. She looks totally normal. But what happened

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<v Speaker 8>was when she was hit, the way she was collided,

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<v Speaker 8>or the way she contorted her body and the way

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<v Speaker 8>that you know, she banged up against the car. She

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<v Speaker 8>ended up pinching her trigeminal nerve, which is right in

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<v Speaker 8>your face, and she developed a condition called trigeminal neuralgia. Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Trigeminal neuralgia is called the suicide disease because it's so

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<v Speaker 8>unbearably painful to live with. Okay. So your trigymnal area

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<v Speaker 8>is like this area right here, okay, and when this

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<v Speaker 8>nerve pinches it, it just excre cruciatingly painful. And it

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<v Speaker 8>can be activated at any time, and it's activated by

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<v Speaker 8>by breathing, by talking, by eating, by brushing your teeth,

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<v Speaker 8>by doing things that you can't avoid. So it's called

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<v Speaker 8>the suicide disease because so many people who have this

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<v Speaker 8>disease kill it. You know, they just cannot handle the

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<v Speaker 8>pain and it never goes away. But from the outside

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<v Speaker 8>they look totally fine. You would never know. But and

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<v Speaker 8>on top of that, it's it's off and on, it's

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<v Speaker 8>hot and cold. She might go a month or maybe

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<v Speaker 8>even two months, probably not two months, but she might

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<v Speaker 8>go a month and not have any anything happened to her.

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<v Speaker 8>She might live a totally normal life, and she might

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<v Speaker 8>be brushing her teeth one day and boom, she's in

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<v Speaker 8>just excruciating pain. She can't do anything for two days,

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<v Speaker 8>she's got to just lay in bed with the lights

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<v Speaker 8>off or stuff like that. So so you know that

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<v Speaker 8>that's a that's purely you know, how do you communicate that?

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<v Speaker 8>How is that quantifiable? You know that's a big part

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<v Speaker 8>of it of the job, you know, and so so

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<v Speaker 8>pain and suffering, you know, mental anguish. You know, even

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<v Speaker 8>even when she's okay, right, you're always living in fear.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's not just you're not just suffering those

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<v Speaker 8>times you're in pain, You're you're living cautiously. You're not.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it takes away your hope, it takes away

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<v Speaker 8>your joy, you know, it's there's there's just a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>So so yeah, I mean you see a lot and

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<v Speaker 8>and you know her story is not unique, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it's it's very it's very uh you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 8>common thing when you're dealing with somebody's h experienced a

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<v Speaker 8>catastrophic injury.

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<v Speaker 3>M right, So you have to I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at a person like that and there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with them, you have to be the one to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of testify on their behalf of everything.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean we advocate right where there where their lawyer,

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<v Speaker 8>where they're where they're where they're where their advocate. But

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<v Speaker 8>you know, for for medical conditions, right, I'm not a doctor.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't know what tried gyminal neuralogia was before, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>dealing with this client. So we have to you know,

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<v Speaker 8>we have to get to the bottom of it. We

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<v Speaker 8>have to have medical experts and and people who can

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<v Speaker 8>testify about all that kind of stuff, you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>for that particular trial. I live in Houston, Texas. There's

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<v Speaker 8>a doctor in Houston, Texas who's one of coincidentally, one

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<v Speaker 8>of the world's experts in try gyminal neuralgia. He's the

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<v Speaker 8>one who testified at you know, at that time at

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<v Speaker 8>that trial. So and we knew him before. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>obviously we took a deposition of him and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>So you know, we uh, you know, we just do

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<v Speaker 8>the best we can. We just we add we we

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<v Speaker 8>acquire the knowledge, right, We're not the experts, and then

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<v Speaker 8>it's our job to make the argument. You know, we

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<v Speaker 8>package it all together.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. That is terrified. You know, it's so crazy because

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, I talk all the time, but

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<v Speaker 3>the dynamic shifts so much when I'm with someone who

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<v Speaker 3>actually knows things about things, as opposed to me not

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<v Speaker 3>knowing anything about anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>How's life going, Luke?

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<v Speaker 9>That's good?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been in trouble?

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<v Speaker 9>Luke? I've been in trouble a few times.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>When's the last time you got in trouble?

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<v Speaker 9>The last time I was in trouble was like a

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<v Speaker 9>year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 9>Luther?

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<v Speaker 6>And then yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so a year ago? I? Uh?

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<v Speaker 10>Uh?

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<v Speaker 9>I committed Arson?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you commit arson a year ago? Luke?

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<v Speaker 9>I counted arsen Like I don't know. It was complete

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<v Speaker 9>insurance fraud. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it work?

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<v Speaker 2>It actually did work.

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<v Speaker 9>I was compensated three hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Had had What did you do with that three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars that you were coversated after committing insurance fraud?

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<v Speaker 9>I invested it into stocks?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what did you do yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday? I? Uh? I? I so, I try to live

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<v Speaker 1>no not November every day of my life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I kind of gave it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what I mean, how did that get

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<v Speaker 3>you in trouble? Were you under a bridge?

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<v Speaker 9>It got me now, it got me in trouble with

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<v Speaker 9>the lord. I feel like I've said horrible man. Yo, Tom,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't understand what's so funny?

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<v Speaker 10>Man.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Luke. I'm trying to I'm trying

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<v Speaker 8>to pull together your your your your incident seemed very

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<v Speaker 8>very real and Okay. Of course, I'm not your lawyer

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<v Speaker 8>at a note state you're in, and I can't give

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<v Speaker 8>you legal advice. And what you just said was to

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<v Speaker 8>approximately I don't know, give or take five hundred people,

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<v Speaker 8>but if I was your lawyer, i'd probably tell you

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<v Speaker 8>not to admit to getting committing arson and committing insurance

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<v Speaker 8>fraud to the public. You know that's.

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<v Speaker 9>Especially Yeah, So actually I have a question, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 9>So is this illegal?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 9>How was legal?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 9>How much trouble could I get in for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 9>So, per se, I had ten million dollars okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 9>and I paid an appraiser fifteen thousand dollars okay to

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<v Speaker 9>appraise of paying for three million dollars okay, and I

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<v Speaker 9>donated that paying for three million dollars, and I have

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<v Speaker 9>a three million dollar tax break for paying that was

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<v Speaker 9>worth like twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you could get into a lot of trouble if

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<v Speaker 8>you got that phone.

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<v Speaker 9>What if nobody found out.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if nobody found out, then you won't get into

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<v Speaker 8>any trouble.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So it's like anything, you know, if somebody did

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<v Speaker 9>find out. How many years of jail am I looking at?

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<v Speaker 8>Probably probably just depends on where you did it. Did

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<v Speaker 8>you cross state lines? Is it a federal offense? Who's

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<v Speaker 8>your prosecutor it's gonna be? I mean, it could be

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<v Speaker 8>a wide wide I mean, if you're committing tax fraud

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<v Speaker 8>that which you would be by not by not paying

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<v Speaker 8>your taxes to the federal government, you would go to

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<v Speaker 8>the federal h It'd be a federal crime, which is

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<v Speaker 8>a lot more severe. There's no parole in federal court

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<v Speaker 8>for federal crimes. I mean, you, I don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 8>how many years you would get probably the nature of

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<v Speaker 8>your yeah, but I mean you would definitely go to jail.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay. So I also have another question for you guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>do you ever just like set up a lawn chair

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<v Speaker 9>in the shower and sit in the shower.

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<v Speaker 8>No, my shower is not even big enough for a

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<v Speaker 8>lawn chair. No, Alexy, I want to. I want to

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<v Speaker 8>just as a general, just as a human, as as

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<v Speaker 8>I want to be. Investor, tell me where you invested

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<v Speaker 8>your three hundred thousand dollars from your from your alleged

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<v Speaker 8>which we can't confirm for legal reasons because I want

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<v Speaker 8>to get in trouble from your alleged insurance fraud. Where

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<v Speaker 8>did you invest your three hundred thousand dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>I am also.

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<v Speaker 9>Careius well, I invested some of it into Tesla and

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<v Speaker 9>dal Jones s m P five hundred was another one

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<v Speaker 9>I was looking into.

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<v Speaker 8>So a fun guy.

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<v Speaker 9>So but honestly, it's honestly kind of it's honestly kind

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<v Speaker 9>of sucks because the stock prices have been down lately.

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<v Speaker 8>But you said you invested a year ago. Where are

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<v Speaker 8>you when you invested? I mean, are you up? Are

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<v Speaker 8>you up? And how has your money been in the

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<v Speaker 8>market for twelve months?

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<v Speaker 9>For I am down recently?

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<v Speaker 8>Right recently, But I'm talking about overall. I mean, do

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<v Speaker 8>you have a long term stock portfolio or I mean

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<v Speaker 8>what's your D game? You know, would you like to

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<v Speaker 8>retire somewhere someday, would you.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, the main, the main goal is to you know,

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<v Speaker 9>just I don't know. It's something I've always been interested

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<v Speaker 9>in since I was young. And I remember being four

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<v Speaker 9>years old reading about Tesla on the Internet and I

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<v Speaker 9>figured it was a great idea to you know, invest.

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<v Speaker 8>So Tesla went public in like twenty ten. So if

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<v Speaker 8>you're three or four years older, you have fourteen of that.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you prove it?

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<v Speaker 8>Now? I'm using circumstance evidence or not even circumstantial evidence,

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<v Speaker 8>direct evidence. I'm a lawyer, man, Come on, you know

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<v Speaker 8>I got to ask these questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Luke, I have a question, Joe.

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<v Speaker 9>What's that question?

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<v Speaker 6>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What is your relationship like with God?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>Every single day I wake up and I pray to

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<v Speaker 9>the Lord Jesus Christ that he forgives me for all

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<v Speaker 9>my sins, because the Lord knows I'm the sinner.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think pissed got off more between the

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<v Speaker 3>Arson and the Master?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I don't think he knows what arson is.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think God God invented arson. Have you not

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<v Speaker 3>heard the story of the Burning Bush?

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<v Speaker 9>I have, and I faintly remember it though I was

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<v Speaker 9>when I was around four years old. Three, Maybe.

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<v Speaker 8>Just around the time when you started reading about Tesla.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, yes, yes, yes, well Luke, uh you know, good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you say that, You know, because I.

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<v Speaker 6>You worried about me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm worried about those around you.

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<v Speaker 9>I hope they're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they're fine.

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<v Speaker 6>To Luke, it should be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it looks. Stay safe and YouTube you don't

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<v Speaker 3>piss off God again.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll try not too. Man, I'm gonna live for you.

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<v Speaker 9>Go by the way. I like your tie, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>I want attorney. I'm not gonna lie. You do need

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<v Speaker 9>your haircut. Your sides are looking a little longer.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 9>But thank you guys for all the advice. Honestly, what

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<v Speaker 9>I would do is I would get a beanie and

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<v Speaker 9>I would pull it down over your eyebrows. Did a

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<v Speaker 9>baggy pair of pants and a flannel and only button

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<v Speaker 9>the top button. I think it would complete the look.

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<v Speaker 9>And as for you, geta You look amazing today, man,

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<v Speaker 9>keep doing what you're doing. Thanks, Yeah for sure? All right,

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<v Speaker 9>all right, you guys have a great day.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, do you think water's wet?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I think water is wet? Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>But why.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess Okay, So if something, if something gets

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<v Speaker 3>water on it, then it becomes wet.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I get lile on something, is that thing liled?

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<v Speaker 3>But then would I be lyled if I'm made of lyle?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I don't think so, because you don't like you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you're solid? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Water being wet is a temporary state. My argument would

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<v Speaker 8>be that anything that is what we can see, what

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<v Speaker 8>we conceive of as wet permanently would be liquid.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Liquids can't be wet. Wet is a temporary condition when

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<v Speaker 8>something that is solid or semi solid becomes drenched in liquid,

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<v Speaker 8>presumably water. Yes, So my argument would be water is

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<v Speaker 8>not wet. But if you pour water on, you know, lyle,

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<v Speaker 8>then lyle would be wet butle. But water itself is

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<v Speaker 8>not wet.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, Tom, if you pour water on water, it does

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<v Speaker 3>it become wet?

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<v Speaker 8>No, it doesn't, because you would. It's a liquid, so

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<v Speaker 8>it just remains in its permanent state of being a liquid.

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<v Speaker 8>It does not get anything more wet.

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<v Speaker 3>What if you freeze it and it becomes ice, and

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<v Speaker 3>you dip the ice in water.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, while the ice is solid, it can be wet,

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<v Speaker 8>but wow, but then as it transitions into liquid. It

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't become wet, it just becomes liquid.

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<v Speaker 1>Call from Alex.

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<v Speaker 14>Tack, Alex, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm doing all right, Alex.

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<v Speaker 14>So I got into some legal trouble with my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 14>one night and it ended up costing me three hundred

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<v Speaker 14>and seventy five dollars. So I actually went down to

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<v Speaker 14>a boat launch and it was probably just after dusk,

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<v Speaker 14>and uh, I was sitting down with her, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>doing what you do, and then suddenly this fog light

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<v Speaker 14>or spotlight comes on my truck and suddenly someone's banging

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<v Speaker 14>on my window saying get out, get out, and so

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<v Speaker 14>I thought it was some like homeless people underneath the bridge,

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<v Speaker 14>and suddenly he just keeps going. So they all right,

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<v Speaker 14>get onto the blanket in the back and hide. I'll

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<v Speaker 14>go out and deal with it. Well, I get out,

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<v Speaker 14>and then he's like turn around, So apparently I still

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<v Speaker 14>do this day.

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<v Speaker 6>Do not know.

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<v Speaker 14>I think he was a game warden, but I'm really

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<v Speaker 14>not sure. But I basically got a three hundred and

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<v Speaker 14>seventy five ticket for getting a blowjob under a bridge,

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<v Speaker 14>and I went to contest it in court and the

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<v Speaker 14>joe only reduced it by half, even though I had

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<v Speaker 14>a clean record. I was very confused.

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<v Speaker 8>What state are you? And Alex.

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<v Speaker 6>Washington?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Well, Alex, first of all, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>a Washington attorney. This is not legal advice, and your

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<v Speaker 8>matter's already over, so that shouldn't matter. But a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of states do have indecent exposure or sex act in

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<v Speaker 8>public violations such as that. And you know, it's very

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<v Speaker 8>possible or probable that that ticket the game warden or

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<v Speaker 8>officer wrote few is within their you know, is within

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<v Speaker 8>their boundaries or within their limits, you know. And I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sorry that that happened. And the judge actually is pretty

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<v Speaker 8>cool cutting the fee in half. I think, so what

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<v Speaker 8>so I mean, you know, what was it? Three seventy

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<v Speaker 8>five cut cut by two? So that's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty bad at math. That's one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 8>bucks give or take one hundred yeah, eighty seven bucks

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<v Speaker 8>around there. Yeah, yeah, sorry that happened.

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<v Speaker 6>But nothing.

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<v Speaker 14>That's the thing is like he didn't see anything. So

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<v Speaker 14>it's like I just got a ticket for I guess

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<v Speaker 14>being down there beyond dusk.

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<v Speaker 8>But well, you can take you know, you could take

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<v Speaker 8>some circumstantial evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure if you were in a closed car, your

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<v Speaker 8>windows were all foggy. You guys were probably in the

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<v Speaker 8>back seat. You know how long it took for you

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<v Speaker 8>to get out of the car, you know, And to

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<v Speaker 8>be quite honest, you even admitted that you were getting

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<v Speaker 8>a blowjob, you know here, so you know, he might

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<v Speaker 8>have seen something or or you know, heard some thing,

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<v Speaker 8>got inferred or gave him, you know, enough evidence to

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<v Speaker 8>write you that ticket. And it sounds like when you

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<v Speaker 8>went to court you pled guilty. If that's if your

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<v Speaker 8>ticket got reduced, so you didn't fight it, would you

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<v Speaker 8>you had the right to.

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<v Speaker 5>But I did.

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<v Speaker 14>I did fight it.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh you did fight it. So you went to.

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<v Speaker 14>Tryal Yeah, I did. I went down there because he

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<v Speaker 14>wrote me a ticket for like being down there past dusk.

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<v Speaker 14>And so when you pull into the boat launch and

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<v Speaker 14>I went back the next day, and all the signs

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<v Speaker 14>are covered completely with sticker bushes, so you couldn't see

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<v Speaker 14>them anyway, So you couldn't read the signs that said

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<v Speaker 14>you couldn't be there. I mean, I believe there's so

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<v Speaker 14>long I know that you can't be there, But still

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<v Speaker 14>in ye eyes, right, well, technically you can't see the sign.

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<v Speaker 14>So I showed the pictures to the judge. She's like,

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<v Speaker 14>all right, reduced by half. I was like, okay, well whatever,

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<v Speaker 14>I have a clean record. Bit that's fine. So I

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<v Speaker 14>went back the next day after the trial and all

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<v Speaker 14>the strict buses were gone.

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<v Speaker 8>So having a sign is not outcome determinative, right, So

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, like, you know, I could go out into

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I don't know, like just a random street.

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<v Speaker 8>I could get in my car and go into parking

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<v Speaker 8>a random street or a random parking lot, and you

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<v Speaker 8>know that there's there doesn't need to be a sign

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<v Speaker 8>that says, you know, hey, by the way, no blow

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<v Speaker 8>jobs in this parking lot past nine pm or at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 8>So so I would just and I'm just guessing right

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<v Speaker 8>that the sign is not outcome determinative of what was happening.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 8>It was more just that what like you for for

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 8>all you know, you you could have been in your

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<v Speaker 8>own driveway doing that and still got in that same

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<v Speaker 8>ticket just because you were in public, in the public view,

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<v Speaker 8>and there is that you know, it's just an indecent

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<v Speaker 8>indecency argument.

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<v Speaker 6>I gotcha.

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<v Speaker 14>So my next question is what is your if let's

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<v Speaker 14>say you get a ticket of any sort. What is

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<v Speaker 14>the best things to say to the judge when you

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<v Speaker 14>go to fight it.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it just depends right on how much evidence they have.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me, let's back up a little bit. The best

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 8>The best thing you can do is when you are

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<v Speaker 8>getting a ticket, the second that you were getting pulled

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<v Speaker 8>over for anything, you need to shut the fuck up

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 8>it is. That is rule number one. The officer comes

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<v Speaker 8>to your window, they say, pull out your ID. You

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<v Speaker 8>pull out your ID because you have to identify yourself. Again,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 8>I'm a Texas lawyer. I assume that's true for every state.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if you don't identify yourself, you're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 8>get in trouble. I feel safe saying that that's pretty unanimous.

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<v Speaker 8>Then they're gonna ask you a bunch of questions. They're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna try to get under your skin. You're gonna say, officer,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not talking about my day, officer, you know, Or hey, hey,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 8>hey Tom, do you know why I pulled you over? No, officer,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 8>I don't know why you pulled me over, Nor am

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 8>I gonna guess. I'm not gonna give you any evidence.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna give you anything. I want you to

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<v Speaker 8>tell me everything. I'm not gonna be talking about my day.

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna tell you who I'm with respectfully. Of

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<v Speaker 8>course you don't need to be a dick to them,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, you just say officer respectfully. Uh, just

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<v Speaker 8>just tell me what you need from me and if

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 8>I'm free to go, great, if not. So that that's

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<v Speaker 8>how you can set yourself up best, because a lot

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 8>of times police officers will pull you over for something

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<v Speaker 8>very minor and then end up walking away with something

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 8>much worse because you just were running your damn mouth,

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 8>you know.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:53.959
<v Speaker 12>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And police officers quite frankly, deal with a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 8>and if you're respectful and you're quiet it, they'll forget

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<v Speaker 8>you by the time the court date comes. You know,

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 8>the court date's not going to be for months, so

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 8>if you're respectful and quiet, you don't. But but they

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 8>go out of their way to remember the people who

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 8>cause them trouble, right, and they'll make sure they show

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<v Speaker 8>up to court for them. So so that's how you

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 8>set the stage correctly. And then when you go in

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<v Speaker 8>front of the judge, you know it's just gonna depend

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, how they might have crystal clear evidence that

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<v Speaker 8>you're guilty. They might not, but it's just being respectful

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 8>and doing all that stuff. And if you can, I

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<v Speaker 8>always recommend hiring a lawyer. I mean, lawyers are there

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 8>to navigate all all of that. You know that that

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<v Speaker 8>that the legal process. So that's kind of my tips.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 8>There's no cure, all right, there's no magic way to

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 8>get out of every ticket. If there was, I would

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 8>let you know. But you know, it's just about setting

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<v Speaker 8>yourself out, Yeah, setting yourself up for the most probable

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<v Speaker 8>chance of success.

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<v Speaker 14>It's very good advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what are you going to do now?

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<v Speaker 14>What am I going to do now? I guess not

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 14>get blow jobs underneath the bridge anymore, that's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, there's thats one places you can get blow jobs, Alex.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you won't get a ticket.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Where you won't get a ticket where you can get

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<v Speaker 3>one safely, safely.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I know, I know a lot of spots around here.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're not worried about you at all, Alex.

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<v Speaker 8>Just just for the for the listeners at home who

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 8>might be concerned that under a bridge is the only

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 8>place where you can get a blow job. There are

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 8>other there are other avenues there are other places.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 3>This is why we do This is why we have

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<v Speaker 3>conversations like this to let and important information such as

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that into the open.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, people need this cheaper to learn from other's mistakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you very much for calling in, Alex. And uh,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, sharing your extra paids and you know, look

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>stay safe out that right, and you know write down

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>a list of five other places so that you have

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.719
<v Speaker 3>it on hand when you need a place to go

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 3>to get a blowjob. That's not a bridge ten for

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you sir, Take care Alex.

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<v Speaker 14>A y all a good night.

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Can fire be on fire?

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<v Speaker 8>But what is? But but you wouldn't fire is not

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<v Speaker 8>a property?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 8>I mean something can be wet? Oh, I guess something

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 8>can be on fire? Right, something can be burning?

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Can fire burn be? Can fire be burning?

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 8>Of course? Well? But isn't that? But but what is

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 8>it burning? That's the thing is fire is a temporary condition.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 8>Water can stay water forever with no but fire needs

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 8>energy to consume, right, It's getting that energy from somewhere,

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 8>whether that's wood or propane or whatever. Fire is not

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 8>the natural state. Water is a natural state as a liquid.

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 8>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>Can water burn?

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 8>I mean in theory, right, water boils and it evaporates.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 8>Is lava wet? What about an? What about that's kind

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 8>of an in between? Is lava wet?

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought lava was like melted, What the hell is lava?

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 8>But lava is a liquid, right, I mean just floating

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 8>around in the volcano. But it's wet. But is it wet?

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 8>But it's not. It wouldn't be wet under that definition

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 8>because it's a liquid. But could lava get if I

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 8>poured lava on the table? Is the table wet? But

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 8>also it's gonna catch on fire because the lava is

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 8>the lava is gonna burn it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like that quote, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 6>Is this Lyle?

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 4>Gek fucking a. I'm watching the stream right now and

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 4>it's not lined up with what's happening on my phone.

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 4>So this is very interesting.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 12>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to leave this area of the computer. Yeah,

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how to. I don't know how.

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I want you to your computer, and I want you

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 3>to go somewhere far away, and I want you to

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 3>pretend like you're on a private phone conversation with a

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 3>gecko and an attorney who does pol advice and is

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 3>not your attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 3>But usually is a therapist.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 4>This is this is surreal.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you something, Scott. Yeah, have you ever

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 3>been in trouble?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, my whole life has been nothing but trouble,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 4>nothing but trouble. When I was I don't know sixteen,

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 4>pulled over driving a car with a license and I

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 4>hadn't even taken the test at that point, I was

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 4>just fucking the squirrel who had a car, and that

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 4>just led to a slew of issues for years to come.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's okay.

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, the government exists for some reasons. Do I

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 4>agree or do we agree?

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Why it exists?

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 4>And what they do to us for the things that

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 4>we do on the road or at home and shit

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 4>It's beyond us the law, The law and exists, and

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 4>I try to live my life as if it's just

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 4>not there. How about you?

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 8>So you do? But but then you do care, right,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 8>And you can't say that, oh, because if you live

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 8>your life the laws don't exist. They you you get

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 8>consequences like getting pulled over when you don't have a

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 8>license in it and the repercussions.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, of course, all of those repercussions I've been dealing

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 4>with for years Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>What's your what's your what's your theoretical stance on governance?

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 8>You know, what is what is the perfect form of government?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I think we can all agree, no

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 4>matter who we are, that there has to be some

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 4>general senses of how to act amongst each other. But

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 4>it is not in my nature to really and invoke

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 4>my life onto anybody else's. Like, I don't think. I

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 4>think government should be minimalistic, and I think democracy has

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 4>taken a slight dive in the last hundred years. And

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<v Speaker 4>I just want everyone to be happy, no matter what

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 4>they're doing. I want I want nobody to impede on

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 4>their happiness, and I want us all to just live cohesively.

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 4>But do you know what makes go ahead?

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<v Speaker 8>But what happens when they're a bad actor? You can't

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 8>you can't just like that sounds like a perfect world. No, no, no, nogue.

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 8>On some of these rights, how how do you need

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 8>somebody to step in and be the enforcer of laws?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I know this is probably going to catch

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 4>some flack, but I chair you know, I'm twenty seven.

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 4>I'll be twenty eight in January. I'm a younger dude,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.479
<v Speaker 4>But and I was not around for the times when

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much everyone who was a man carried a gun,

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 4>and lawmen were far into in between, and if you

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 4>had an issue with somebody that really demanded an action,

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 4>you would take care of it yourself. I feel like

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 4>society as a whole has diverted towards a world where

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 4>we rely too much or too heavily on somebody who

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>was too far away to take action for us.

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<v Speaker 8>What does that mean, rely on yourself? I mean, cann't

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 8>you use that as an excuse for everything. Don't you

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.240
<v Speaker 8>need a neutral arbitrator. I've never seen an incident where

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 8>both parts where one party says they were completely at fault.

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 8>You know what happens if two people get into a fight.

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 8>One person crabs the other and it was really the

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 8>you know, it was really the guy who who shots fault,

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 8>you know. But but then he's just gonna say, yeah,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 8>I was just defending myself or whatever. You just you're

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 8>leading there. There needs to be a big brother, big

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 8>sister in some capacity, surely. I mean, if you really

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 8>you rely on everybody's word and goodness, I agree with you.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you, you know, and that's why I

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 4>say I relish the days that are long pass where

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 4>you know the law exists, but it didn't impede on

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 4>your daily life as heavily as it does today. Obviously,

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 4>if you kill somebody out of just then you should

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 4>be taken to justice, and justice should be sure, should

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 4>be but.

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<v Speaker 3>Life go ahead? What what law? What if you could

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 3>get rid of any laws? What laws would you get

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>rid of?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Man, uh, pretty much every traffic law. Being able

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 4>to distill your own whiskey. I'm literally looking at barrels

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 4>of whiskey.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I you said you would get rid of all traffic laws.

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Drink I think.

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I think speeding is as stupid and you should be

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 4>able to go as fast as you want. We're all

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 4>adults here. If you go too fast and you kill yourself,

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 4>natural selection is going to go ahead and take course,

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 4>and looking.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 8>At you kill somebody else.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, again, natural selection will take hold and either you're

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 4>gonna die, you're.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 8>For everybody you could be. I could be a PhD

0:41:54.880 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 8>smartest guy in the world driving safely. Yeah, goes one

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 8>hundred and twenty miles per hour, swerves, flies over the

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 8>medianning kills me. That's not a natural selection.

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 4>I've been I've been driving eighty miles an hour in

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 4>the fast plane after I just sotle the grammar DMP

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 4>to some guys, happy as can be that I had

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 4>two hundred dollars in my wallet, smoking a joint with

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 4>a girl next to me, and then here comes some

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 4>headlights toward me in my lane that I had to

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 4>casually swerve to miss. And you know what, the thirty

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 4>plus cops on the other side of the highway chasing

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 4>the guy who was on my side of the highway.

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 4>They weren't going to do dick for me if he

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 4>hit me, you know what I mean? Like, I took

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<v Speaker 4>care of that situation the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same way anyone else should you.

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<v Speaker 4>If you were too lazy to say your own life,

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<v Speaker 4>well then I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>But wouldn't you agree that the more instances there were,

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<v Speaker 8>the more statistically probable, Like like if you relate that

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<v Speaker 8>if you replayed that same situation one hundred times, you

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 8>might have gotten to an accident five percent of god,

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<v Speaker 8>maybe ten percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I probably would have gone through an accident

0:42:58.640 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 4>ninety percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 8>That's great, m.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott, what's your.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Fun I think yield signs are more effective I've lived

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 4>in I live in Texas and their neighborhoods around here

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 4>where you come to a four way stop and it's

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 4>a yield instead of a stop. So if you don't

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 4>see anybody and you can, you're free to go ahead

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 4>and cruise on through that fourway. But if you do

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 4>what is necessary, you stop and let the person left

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<v Speaker 4>you go first.

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<v Speaker 8>Would you would you agree that not all people have

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<v Speaker 8>the same driving abilities?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh God, yes, and that's and and then you agree?

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 8>Wouldn't you agree that you know they're they're they're that

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 8>at some level? Mm hmm, everybody deserves the ability to drive,

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 8>to transport themselves, to conduct their daily freedoms.

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well yes and no. And the no is probably

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 4>the hardest part, because I feel like that freedom kind

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 4>of gets muted at a certain age. Would you agree?

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:14.320
<v Speaker 4>I feel like some people at a certain age can drive.

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<v Speaker 4>But where I'm from, I don't think you have to

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<v Speaker 4>take your driving test for every lie. I don't think

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 4>you have to take your driving test ever again. Once

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 4>you take it, you just you're good, and you just

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 4>get it renewed and then that's it. But there are

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 4>some older people out there who want to rely on

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 4>themselves to do the things they need to do in life,

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 4>but they might not be the best drivers, and they

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 4>might be a little stubborn about it, and that is rough,

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 4>you know. And I think we've all seen the episode

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 4>of Futurama where they put all the old people on

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 4>a planet because at a certain point, you just get

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.879
<v Speaker 4>to be a burden. And I want to go eighty

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 4>miles an hour on the highway and I don't want

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 4>to be impeded by the people going sixty five on

0:44:59.120 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 4>the fast Land.

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<v Speaker 8>But you're kind of your argument doesn't really make sense.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 8>I you know, somebody with your stance on no driving

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<v Speaker 8>laws should say, yeah, why everybody should be able to drive?

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, how do you make.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I spoke to to audaciously when I said

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<v Speaker 4>no driving laws. I mean, I feel like there's a

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 4>there's a okay, okay, well if I if there are

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 4>no driving laws, nobody would go drive because the only

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 4>thing that you and I rely on every day when

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:34.439
<v Speaker 4>we go out and drive is the fact that those

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 4>yellow fucking stripes in the road are the only thing

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 4>keeping us alive, because if I ripes, I'm gonna kill you.

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's that. So there's a there's a certain moral

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 4>ethical code on the road amongst all of us that

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 4>this is how we drive, and if somebody's going faster,

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<v Speaker 4>you get out of the way, or if there's an

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 4>emergency vehicle come in, you pull over.

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 6>You know, just these things that keep society flowing.

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:57.959
<v Speaker 4>But I don't believe that.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>All these towns, I'm apologetic about this, but all of

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>these talents around America that just that just butcher people

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>for going a little too fast and just raking all

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>this money unethically.

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<v Speaker 11>I think it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>But but wouldn't you agree that if millions of people

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 8>are on the road today, you need some form of

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 8>cohesive structure because if you leave everybody just to just

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<v Speaker 8>to go Audubond style in Audubon.

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<v Speaker 4>But but if you go at the statistics for the Audubon,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean they're they're they're very opaque. I mean, nobody

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 4>killing themselves.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 8>They're right, I get it right there. But but there

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 8>are lanes, you know, there's etiquette, there's I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't want to be road warrior. I just want no

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 4>tickets pretty much. Listen, I feel like this is taking

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 4>away from the whole point of what I called the

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 4>day like, I feel like this is a relish moment

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 4>that I need to take in, and you guys are

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 4>so important. Go ahead, what happened?

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear you say that that.

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<v Speaker 4>Exists for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you say that lanes? That's important to have lanes?

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:17.879
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, If we didn't have lanes, we'd be all over

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 4>the place. Listen, you're getting too caught up on the fact.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't want traffic blogs. I just don't want and

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 4>find your ass for going a little too fast.

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<v Speaker 3>What state do you live in so that I know there,

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I'll just walk.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 4>I live in Texas, where we can go eighty miles

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.919
<v Speaker 4>an hour on some roads, and if no one's around,

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 4>you can just go ninety and it's totally okay because

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 4>you're not hurting anybody, and you don't want to hurt anybody.

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 4>You just want to get through this massive state that's

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 4>three times the size of yours a little bit faster.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>When I go to Colorado to buy weed where it's

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 4>legal to bring home here where it's not, I have

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 4>to obey that the traffic laws. Coming back to I

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 4>don't want to get pulled over again, and I don't

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 4>want to have to pay new Mexico a bunch of

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 4>fucking money just for going a little too fast. We're

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 4>just ten miles up the road. It was eighty miles

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 4>an hour, and it would have been leading.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's legal to buy a weed in Colorado, it's

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 3>not legal to take that weed into Texas.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Nope, not at all.

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 3>And you're upset that you can't break the law.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 4>I feel like prohibition, you know, needs to end. And

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 4>that's okay. I'm not again. I don't look at the

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 4>law as anything that really affects my daily life. I

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 4>just kind of live my life the best I can,

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 4>treat people the best I can.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 7>You opened the call by saying that on a daily basis,

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 7>the laws affect your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh. You asked me if I had ever been in trouble.

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 4>I said that. I. I mean I trouble follows me everywhere.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I just whatever, you deal with it, like you deal

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 4>with anything, you you learn from it and then you

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 4>try to be wiser and move forward and not do

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 4>that again. But that's okay, you know, if you if

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 4>you if none of us had ever been in trouble,

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 4>I feel like none of us ever really would have

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 4>learned anything substantial.

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what a beautiful lesson for Oh come.

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>On, I mean, what what what?

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 8>What?

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:29.479
<v Speaker 4>What troubles have you gone in where you were? Just like, man,

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 4>that was a lot of work for from not a

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 4>lot of reward and a lot of hassle. I should

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 4>probably just not do that again. I mean, I feel

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 4>like we all do that every day.

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<v Speaker 3>What'd you say? Your name was my name of Adam?

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 4>First man?

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Well Adam, thank you for for calling in this informative

0:49:58.440 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 3>what no, what do you what do you mean?

0:49:59.520 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 9>Dang?

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<v Speaker 3>We got this was a we did a we got

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 3>oh fift we got a good fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that just I mean, you know the old thing.

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Time flies and they're having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, Scott. I'll talk to you soon.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I love the hell out of you, and

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 4>I love everyone who's listening. And again I'm not a

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 4>bad person. I just wanted to be able to go faster.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have a really great night. Oh wait before

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 4>you go, before you go, hey, can I ask you something, Lyle?

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 4>How are you doing today?

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 11>All right?

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 13>That's good.

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to hear that you enter it the same

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 4>way every time. Now, I get the whole shield this time.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 4>That's okay. So you have a good night, man, Thank

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 4>you you too later, I love you goodbye.

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 8>That was interesting.

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 3>So Tom, what do you think should we should it

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 3>be legal to kill people with your car?

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 8>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie to accept press one.

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<v Speaker 10>Maddie, Oh my god, Hello, hello Maddie.

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 3>How are you hi?

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 6>O good?

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 10>I'm really happy to say answered.

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm happy that I that you called.

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:21.879
<v Speaker 12>Thank you?

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 10>Oh my good. I see people saying my name in

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 10>the chat. I did actually have a legal problem, I guess.

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 10>And I don't want to go with like, I don't

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 10>want to try to make the conversation super deep. But

0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 10>I was just wondering because I used to work for

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 10>this restaurant or whatever, like a local one, and oh wait,

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 10>am I allotted to cut? Like is that okay?

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah you can cuss?

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 10>Well, they were like really rude to me, like they

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 10>were just assholes, Like I they were h tech. I'm eighteen.

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 10>But I was just wondering, is can I actually get

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:08.360
<v Speaker 10>into legal trouble for hacking their Instagram account and turning

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 10>it into making the Stallion Shanny count.

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, hacking Who's Instagram account? You're the companies or your coworker,

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the restaurants listen.

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 8>I don't know what state you're in. And this isn't

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 8>legal advice. I have to tell you that every time,

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 8>everybody that every time you can get in trouble for

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 8>hacking anybody's Instagram account that's not your own. And yes,

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:39.240
<v Speaker 8>even if.

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 10>It's just like like how could they catch me? Though,

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 10>like is it really that big of a deal.

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.759
<v Speaker 8>I mean, everybody says how can they catch me? Until

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:46.959
<v Speaker 8>they get caught? I don't.

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 8>Maybe maybe maybe somebody from the restaurants watching a stream

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 8>involving a therapy gecko and they recognize your voice and

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 8>then when the incident happens, they know who it was.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 10>You know, I don't know, but I think like they

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 10>deserve it morally.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Stallion already has an Instagram.

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 8>But that's a great lile. This is a great this

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 8>is a great question that you might need to chime

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 8>in on. Moral does not always mean legal. There are

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 8>there are some things that are legal, but they might

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 8>very well be a moral and there are a lot

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 8>of historical examples of that. Reality is is right now?

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 8>You know it is legal or illegal? I should say

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 8>for you to pursue your your desire to change hack

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 8>into an Instagram account that does not belong to you.

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 10>Change what I want to really call it un hacking,

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 10>Like it's not really hacking, it's just you, like you

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.800
<v Speaker 10>put if they don't have to affect their authentic authentification

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.720
<v Speaker 10>or whatever, you can just like put in a different

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 10>email and then change the passwords. Is what some person

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 10>told me. I asked somebody to help me with it.

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Why does it matter if it's not hacking, you're still

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 3>you're achieving the same ends.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well I guess Yeah, why why are you mad

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 10>at these people?

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 6>Again?

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 10>Well, I just like I had like I don't know,

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 10>I just really didn't I don't know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 10>to get too deep into it, but uh, there was

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<v Speaker 10>like definitely like they were just assholes. Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 10>there's so much those months, but there was like inappropriate

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<v Speaker 10>touching from the boss who was like fifty and I

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<v Speaker 10>just like I just have always just like hated them.

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<v Speaker 8>And yeah, yeah, okay, if that's true, I think you

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<v Speaker 8>need to go talk to a local employment lawyer. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 8>of course bosses cannot take advantage of their employees or

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<v Speaker 8>touch them inappropriately. That's completely outrageous and creates a bad

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<v Speaker 8>work environment. And I'm not I'm just switching gears. Just

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<v Speaker 8>for a little side note. It is possible for there

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<v Speaker 8>to be bad work environments that aren't illegal per se.

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<v Speaker 8>Like just it's part of life. I deal with jerks

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<v Speaker 8>every day, you know, you know, I you know that's different.

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<v Speaker 8>But if you are legitimately sexually harassed, that is beyond

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<v Speaker 8>just being a bad workplace, that is a unsafe, un

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 8>you know, illegal manner. And you know, if your trust me,

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<v Speaker 8>your revenge would be much better suit did in the

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<v Speaker 8>form of a legal action. And the people who handle

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<v Speaker 8>those type of issues are employment lawyers. So I would

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<v Speaker 8>go onto Google. I would just google employment lawyer. Google

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<v Speaker 8>will match you to wherever you know, state or city

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<v Speaker 8>you're in and just go talk to them. Usually it's

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<v Speaker 8>free consultation and they'll tell you whether or not it's legit,

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 8>and hopefully whoever did that to you is held accountable,

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<v Speaker 8>the restaurants held accountable for having a uh environment where

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<v Speaker 8>that's allowed or tolerated. But but, but I would advise

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 8>strongly against the original game plan of hacking their accounts.

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 8>That is the wrong way to go about me.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I agree, I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to write that down employee lawyers, employment lawyer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes right.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you know, look it's more effective too, because the

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 3>heck they're just going to change back their Instagram. You know,

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna you know, achieve any real change or

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<v Speaker 3>get back on them in any sort of meaningful way

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't also bite back at you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's true. I was just like annoyed, and you

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<v Speaker 10>feel like I could actually do anything about it, just

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 10>wanted to, I guess, mess with them. So yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well Maddie, Uh look, I hope that you I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that you're able to solve this in a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>through the system, in a meaningful way, as opposed to

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>creating another Megan thee Stallion Instagram account.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>You take care, Mattie, Thank you for calling in you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think we go when we die? Tom?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>All I know is I want to be shot off

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 8>in space.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, hopefully Elon Musk will have some sort of product

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:22.240
<v Speaker 8>by that time.

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<v Speaker 3>Get some space attorneys. Yeah, hey, Lyle again not on

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the stream, but in my sad little basement. Recording for

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 3>the podcast. I just wanted to say shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney Tom. Guys go follow him on Twitch and TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just one word, Attorney Tom. He was awesome. Shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to him. There's more coming soon, so stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a whole second half. I also just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be doing Patreon only live streams. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>merch benefits coming soon for some of the other tears. Anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So I don't usually comment on the calls,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will say this. This next call was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit I got. I feel like I got a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more serious than I usually am. So I

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<v Speaker 3>figured i'd mention that while I'm here anyway. You know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just I'll let the calls speak for themselves. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get out of here, all right. I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy the rest of the episode. Talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Home from Riley to accept Press.

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<v Speaker 15>One, Riley, Riley, Riley, Riley.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Briley, are you watching the stream right now?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you do a favor?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>What can you turn the stream off?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah? It is off.

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<v Speaker 9>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing right now?

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<v Speaker 11>Sitting here drinking beer?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever lied? Riley?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah? Definitely about what That's where it gets complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it complicated?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, let's just say most of my entire life has

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<v Speaker 11>been a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>How has most of your entire life been a lie?

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<v Speaker 11>All right? Well, kind of one of I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 11>trams to begin with, Okay, but I have to hide

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<v Speaker 11>it so I can do my job. Really, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 11>had to for a long time, and I'm known for

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<v Speaker 11>a long time. That's actually what I called you because

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<v Speaker 11>my last therapist actually ended up taking our own life,

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<v Speaker 11>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, yeah, Well, I do have to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>I am not a real therapist or in any way,

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<v Speaker 3>shape or form even remotely qualified to be a therapist

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<v Speaker 3>or even give advice or do anything of any kind

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<v Speaker 3>in any of that sense.

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<v Speaker 11>However, I know that I just want to have a

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<v Speaker 11>conversation with somebody I can actually talk to about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's your job?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm a musician for a living.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why why why can't you be openly trans as a.

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<v Speaker 11>Musician Because in the South things are not still that great.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in the like specifically in the music scene.

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<v Speaker 11>That you're in pretty much, yeah, in the areas like

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<v Speaker 11>unless you're like a lot of the money if you're not,

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<v Speaker 11>like you know, making a bunch of money off your

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<v Speaker 11>own music is going through the cover circuit, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>where you're going to play at bars and restaurants and

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<v Speaker 11>stuff like that. And in certain areas in the country

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<v Speaker 11>still there's there's still a lot of people that you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I've heard it before where you know, we love your

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<v Speaker 11>music but sound great, but people just wouldn't be comfortable

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<v Speaker 11>with someone like you. Here. You go back three months later,

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<v Speaker 11>not looking that way anymore, and then foom, you get

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<v Speaker 11>the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Where Texas are you?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, not in Texas, but a little more towards the east.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever say where you were.

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<v Speaker 11>No I'm not really going to give my exact state.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure you don't have to. Is there a reason why

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to move and go somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 11>Money? I've I've ended up homeless before, I've lived out

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<v Speaker 11>of my cards. Some of the worst experiences ever, like

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<v Speaker 11>to wake up freaking you know, in ninety five degree car?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you live? Do you live with the parents?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 11>No, I live on my own. I'm able to make

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<v Speaker 11>my own I was making I was able to make

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<v Speaker 11>a pretty good living before all the craziness of the world.

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<v Speaker 11>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, could you not could you not find a

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<v Speaker 3>place in I mean you don't it? Could you not

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<v Speaker 3>find a place like? I mean, like you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to move to like New York City to find to

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<v Speaker 3>find a place where like you could feel comfortable being

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<v Speaker 3>open to trans but like, could you find a place

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<v Speaker 3>that is less hostile to trans people that you could

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<v Speaker 3>afford to live in that is similarly priced? Is where

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<v Speaker 3>you currently live?

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<v Speaker 11>Where it's like still somewhere Well? That's another thing is

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<v Speaker 11>like in this industry, it's all networking. So if you

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<v Speaker 11>don't know anybody, you go somewhere completely new, you have

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<v Speaker 11>to start from the ground up. Again, you're throwing years

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<v Speaker 11>of you know, networking out the window, so I like,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm a mile away.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mainly make your money from from bar and restaurants.

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<v Speaker 11>Most of it? Yeah, the primary bulk.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you do you do any independent music or are

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<v Speaker 3>you mainly just to cover cover music.

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<v Speaker 11>Not do independent music too?

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<v Speaker 5>How deep?

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<v Speaker 11>It's kind of like psychedelic blues rock wi jazz influenced.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not familiar with like the very music scenes or anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean I feel like you could find I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>are you adverse to, like it's so fucking different with

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking pandemic, but like, are you adverse to trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find a city that has like a solid scene

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<v Speaker 3>for your genre that is, you know, more welcoming of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and and progressive area.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, But that's where like I've met a few people

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<v Speaker 11>that you know, are in some pretty you know, big

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<v Speaker 11>internationally touring bands, and they're always telling me, like, move

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<v Speaker 11>to New York, And I'm like, I would love that

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<v Speaker 11>because Los Angeles is where more of the you know,

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<v Speaker 11>let's people go there to play, they go there and

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<v Speaker 11>do more of the technical side of things, like movies,

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<v Speaker 11>and production and stuff like that. In New York's where

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of musicians will go and they're like, they

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<v Speaker 11>would love you there. You doesn't matter who you are

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<v Speaker 11>there as long as you just play good music. But

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<v Speaker 11>that's where it's like, how do you go about especially

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<v Speaker 11>when you're you know, I'm not saying I make a

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<v Speaker 11>bunch of money. I was able to support myself before

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<v Speaker 11>all this stuff was going down, but now it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 11>barely even scraping by. So it's like, how do you

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<v Speaker 11>just you know, run away for all that when you

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<v Speaker 11>barely have enough to even go off of. But at

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<v Speaker 11>the same time, it's like that's just long story short.

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<v Speaker 11>I've the whole end the closet out of the closet thing.

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<v Speaker 11>I've done that like five times.

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<v Speaker 3>Is I mean, how how is it something that you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this like a thing that's like actively taking a

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<v Speaker 3>toll on you constantly having to like hide who you

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<v Speaker 3>are and like in the clart out of the closet.

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<v Speaker 11>Very it's it's brought on a serious drinking problem.

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<v Speaker 3>How old are you? Can I ask you?

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<v Speaker 6>Old you?

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<v Speaker 11>Twenty seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty seven? Yeah, I'm I'm trying to I want I

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<v Speaker 3>want to break down why you can't move.

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<v Speaker 11>All right? Well, I mean that's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 11>factors to that, because A where do you go if

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<v Speaker 11>you have no one that you're you know, you know there,

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<v Speaker 11>if you have no connections there, then first off, you

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<v Speaker 11>just got to have the money saved up to go

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<v Speaker 11>ahead and get a place.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was that touring band that you talked to?

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<v Speaker 11>Some of them would be like Air Candlebox, and then

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<v Speaker 11>there was uh, what was it the producer for Steve Miller.

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<v Speaker 11>He was a he was a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I ask like, have you to see to me

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<v Speaker 3>like you know I have. I'm happy to talk this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff through with you, But to me, if this is

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<v Speaker 3>something where like I would, I'd fucking literally go on

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<v Speaker 3>like Twitter or Reddit, or I would find transgender musicians

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<v Speaker 3>in New York who are like not that big, and

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<v Speaker 3>I would like reach out to them on Instagram or

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter and just be like, how are you doing this

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<v Speaker 3>right now? Like do you give any advice? Like I like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that I feel like you could find

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<v Speaker 3>people to talk it through with that would have like

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<v Speaker 3>practical advice that I would not. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>I guess I just wanted to get someone else's opinion

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<v Speaker 11>on this. Is it better to I guess my philosophy

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<v Speaker 11>has always been that is it better to do what

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<v Speaker 11>you have to do to survive and it be something

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<v Speaker 11>that you enjoy? Would you rather be yourself? And so basically,

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<v Speaker 11>would you rather enjoy what you do out in the

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<v Speaker 11>world or be happy with your own internal world. It's

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<v Speaker 11>kind of like a decision I've had to make all

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<v Speaker 11>these years, and I always have chosen that I don't

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<v Speaker 11>have to look in a mirror every day. That's a

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<v Speaker 11>decision that you have to make. But going out and

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<v Speaker 11>doing something and making money to survive is it's a definite.

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<v Speaker 11>So I'd rather go out do something that I love

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<v Speaker 11>then go and do something that I despise doing. But

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<v Speaker 11>at the same it's it's really complicated, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why are you? Why? Why are well? Why is

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<v Speaker 3>that your only two options? Why can't you Why isn't

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<v Speaker 3>there a are you completely hopeless to find a situation

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<v Speaker 3>in which you can be out and also playing.

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<v Speaker 11>Music slightly mainly just because of a lot of the

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<v Speaker 11>experiences I've had in the past and that have made

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<v Speaker 11>it to where it's like I kind of just fear

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<v Speaker 11>it now. It's it's complicated, it's tough, and it's not

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<v Speaker 11>something that you know. It's not like I can understand

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<v Speaker 11>you have it either, And I never wish of this

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<v Speaker 11>on my my worst enemy. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 11>it's like I'd rather, I'd rather do what I love,

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<v Speaker 11>and that's to play music. But at the same time, yes,

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<v Speaker 11>if I could have both, I definitely would, And that's

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<v Speaker 11>kind of the goal. I'm losing my house in a

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<v Speaker 11>few weeks due to the whole pandemic, and I'm getting

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<v Speaker 11>a cheap room at the friend's house out here for

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<v Speaker 11>about six months, and my whole plan is to save

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<v Speaker 11>up as much as I can, and that way I

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<v Speaker 11>can kind of sit there and go, all right, what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good I think that's a good

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<v Speaker 3>plan to try to save up some money.

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<v Speaker 9>To move.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're you're getting kind of double fucked because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, live music is, you know, on a downward

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<v Speaker 3>How hard are you going at?

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<v Speaker 8>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I can I call you? Dude? You do?

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<v Speaker 5>I never?

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure get how hard are

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<v Speaker 3>you going at? Like? So okay, Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>someone in the chat was saying it started echoing what

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying, which is, like, you know, there's probably subreddit.

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<v Speaker 3>There's probably subreddits of like you know, there are like

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<v Speaker 3>definitely people on the same journey as you, possibly even

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<v Speaker 3>you know, close fit proximity, closer to you than you

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<v Speaker 3>would think. I would go on Reddit, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>go on Twitter, and I would like find other trans

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<v Speaker 3>artists and like ask them for their advice, even if

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, even if they're similarly hopeless to you, might

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<v Speaker 3>and they don't have like a solution for you, you

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<v Speaker 3>might feel like some solidarity there, or you might make

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<v Speaker 3>you feel less alone about it if you feel alone.

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<v Speaker 11>About it true, you know. Else, I guess one of

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<v Speaker 11>my other plans is to try and maybe start streaming

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<v Speaker 11>while doing like being more of myself.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and my.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that this is this is fucking another fucking and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning this.

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<v Speaker 15>This is.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that we don't have fucking comparable situations, but

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<v Speaker 3>I really do believe that you will be rewarded for

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<v Speaker 3>being yourself because what happened is if you what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to say, how hard have you been going at

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<v Speaker 3>like putting your music out on the internet and like

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<v Speaker 3>streaming on like Urpan or TikTok or anything.

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<v Speaker 11>Like that, barely any at all because I've always been

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<v Speaker 11>afraid to do any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think and and look, you know, you're fun of.

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<v Speaker 11>People because you can see them. You can see the reactions.

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<v Speaker 11>You can deal with the reactions in person on streams

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<v Speaker 11>on the internet. This place is wild Man West out here.

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<v Speaker 3>But dude, there are there are sort of like how

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying, like and these like subways, there are

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<v Speaker 3>other like trans artists out there. They're like fucking trans

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<v Speaker 3>people all over the place that would love that. Would

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<v Speaker 3>like if you came in you had like your story

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<v Speaker 3>and you went on TikTok and you if you went

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<v Speaker 3>on TikTok and you made a TikTok video about like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an artist, here's my story. I tried to you

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<v Speaker 3>literally just told the story that you have told us.

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<v Speaker 3>People would connect with that story and they would want

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<v Speaker 3>to follow you, and they would want to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>your music. And I'm not gonna say that's gonna like

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<v Speaker 3>that like overnight you're gonna be able to like make

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<v Speaker 3>money off of like music streaming. But that could be

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<v Speaker 3>the start of you know, taking ownership over your identity

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<v Speaker 3>and not just take overship by of your identity. But

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<v Speaker 3>you'll start to start to be like, oh, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>like being rewarded for being myself. People are like people

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<v Speaker 3>would DM you and be like, hey, I'm really fucking

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<v Speaker 3>glad that you're doing this because I was scared to

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<v Speaker 3>do this, and the way that you're being you know,

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<v Speaker 3>open about who you are is inspiring me. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be like, oh, fuck, I'm actually getting every my

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<v Speaker 3>whole I've been. I've been consistently my whole life punished

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<v Speaker 3>for being who I am. But we're into a fucking

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<v Speaker 3>media landscape right now where I genuinely think you will

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<v Speaker 3>be rewarded for being who you are. Does that make

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<v Speaker 3>sense my thoughting crazy.

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<v Speaker 11>No, it makes a lot of sense. It's just I

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<v Speaker 11>guess on my end of the thing where I first

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<v Speaker 11>time I did that or I came out, it was amazing,

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<v Speaker 11>like I got all those messages from so many people

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<v Speaker 11>and it was so much support. And then I ended

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<v Speaker 11>up homeless and living out of my car and it's

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<v Speaker 11>kind of hard to find a place to go and

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<v Speaker 11>shave and do all that stuff you need to do

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<v Speaker 11>to not look like the other when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 11>home living out of your car every day. And I

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<v Speaker 11>was actually on the process of starting hormones and I

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<v Speaker 11>was supposed to go a whole year every day as

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<v Speaker 11>my you know, as myself, and I made it seven

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<v Speaker 11>months until I just you know, I was oh, listen,

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<v Speaker 11>I couldn't couldn't do it anymore. And so when that happened,

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<v Speaker 11>I was like, fuck, sorry, I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 11>can curse. But I was like, you know, this sucks

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<v Speaker 11>because now I got to go back into hiding per se.

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<v Speaker 11>And at that point I was like, Okay, let me

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<v Speaker 11>figure out everything, get everything back on course again. Then

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<v Speaker 11>I came out again and I was thinking, this is

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<v Speaker 11>going to be the time. It's going to be the

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<v Speaker 11>morning it's going to be. It made it like a year,

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<v Speaker 11>about a year and then ended up in really dire

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<v Speaker 11>strengths again and had to take a step back. And

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<v Speaker 11>then finally after the second time, I ended up making

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<v Speaker 11>music a full time career and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 11>don't ever want to lose this. But then I moved

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<v Speaker 11>away to where I am now in hopes of doing

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<v Speaker 11>exactly what we're talking about, and it did not go well.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's just say it did not go well. So then

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<v Speaker 11>after that I kind of took some time off. I

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<v Speaker 11>kind of laid my head low and came back out

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<v Speaker 11>and I came out swinging because I had something to prove.

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<v Speaker 11>It really built myself up in the city and the

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<v Speaker 11>surrounding area that I'm in. And now that you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I've kind of gotten that point, and then COVID took

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<v Speaker 11>all that away. I'm sitting here going, maybe I should just,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, start thinking about what's next. But I'm cleared

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<v Speaker 11>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I I again, I'm not I'm not a therapist. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not like an advice guy. I don't want to till

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to tell you what to do. But

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<v Speaker 3>if if, if you know, we were just friends and

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<v Speaker 3>I was telling you what I think you should do,

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<v Speaker 3>I really I feel like you gotta get the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>out of there. I feel like, you know, I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just feel I feel like you gotta.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like you can stay there. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like because just because if you move, even if you move,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like fucking homeless for however long. I again, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't want.

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<v Speaker 11>To like it's fighting for a future I kind of gives.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like you got to take the bet,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I feel I gotta take a chance. You

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<v Speaker 3>just gotta move and you gotta get out of there

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<v Speaker 3>because what what because at least I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying is making any sense, but at least, like,

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<v Speaker 3>because what are you gonna do? You're just gonna stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the closet and be in pain forever, or at.

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<v Speaker 11>Least until something works out, until something happens in this

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<v Speaker 11>long story, okay, long story short, I'm in the craziest

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<v Speaker 11>state in America. That tells you enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I hate that, like you you like, what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck you can't do your job if you're trans

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<v Speaker 3>that's sound.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, no, it's just because there's a lot of good.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta I feel like you gotta get out of there.

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<v Speaker 11>The mindset out here is not Like I even moved

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<v Speaker 11>to a city that is known for being very LGBT friendly.

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<v Speaker 11>Can I realize it's not When you get outside of

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<v Speaker 11>just like this one street that they dedicated down the

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<v Speaker 11>whole city, it's like there's nothing else and everyone else

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<v Speaker 11>gets like really put off by it. But that's another

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<v Speaker 11>thing that's that a lot of people don't know that.

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<v Speaker 11>There's there's a lot of infighting in the in the

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<v Speaker 11>LGBT community. There's a lot of game and Muslim people

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<v Speaker 11>that don't like trans people really yeah, and a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of game using people don't like buy people. It's there's

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<v Speaker 11>infighting all and all the time in all types of places.

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<v Speaker 11>And what's funny is I'm going to say somebody, uh

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<v Speaker 11>I think, No, I'm not gonna say it because it's

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<v Speaker 11>just too spot on.

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<v Speaker 3>What Okay, let me ask you crazy question. No, if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you could live anywhere in the entire world,

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<v Speaker 3>where you live.

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<v Speaker 11>In the entire world, Well that's the thing. I hate

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<v Speaker 11>the cold with a burning passion. Okay, but a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of the places I would like to live are could

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<v Speaker 11>I mean like New York City, but just I want

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<v Speaker 11>to go somewhere where there's just people playing music all

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<v Speaker 11>the time and that's all that happens every day, every second,

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<v Speaker 11>every minute. Oh, I love Nashville. That's a good spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Nashville the LGBT friendly.

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<v Speaker 6>Not as much?

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<v Speaker 11>But I'm not like I mean, I'm born and raised

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<v Speaker 11>in the backwoods, you know, on the creeks all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>So at the same time, I'm not like, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>the most quote unquote flamboyant person. I'm still raised in

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<v Speaker 11>the backwoods. I know how to handle myself. But it's

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<v Speaker 11>just I need to be somewhere that's not so like

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<v Speaker 11>society is shutting it all down.

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<v Speaker 3>I again, I I. You know, I'm privileged and ship

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't want to like I I this has

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<v Speaker 3>come from like a place of like, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>have hope for you because I see it like I,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there is an opening and then you

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<v Speaker 3>should try to find it for you to move to

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<v Speaker 3>another place where you can because you don't have to move.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to you don't have to move to

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<v Speaker 3>like an a, you don't have to move to like

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<v Speaker 3>the as to to your most expensive fucking San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>city to just find a place where you can be

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<v Speaker 3>trans without people shitting on you.

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<v Speaker 11>True, it's just I guess it wouldn't be so hard

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<v Speaker 11>if it wasn't for my my h for my career,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, for my my career field. Because that's just

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<v Speaker 11>that's that's the kind of feel where you are put

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<v Speaker 11>in front of people and they either like you or

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<v Speaker 11>they don't, and your job is based upon their judgement

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<v Speaker 11>of you. And if you have to close, it makes

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<v Speaker 11>people not be happy about man.

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<v Speaker 3>But would you be opposed to like working a job

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<v Speaker 3>outside of your fields for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 11>I've worked a lot of jobs in my field, Like

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<v Speaker 11>I've worked like sixty something jobs already, and I really

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<v Speaker 11>don't want to go back. I missed playing like five

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<v Speaker 11>six nights a week, sometimes two or three gigs for

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<v Speaker 11>like all day long, twelve hours of just playing music.

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<v Speaker 11>That would be the best. But it sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>It sucks that it's just all just gone here here, here,

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<v Speaker 3>Here's here's what I think you should do. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you should find like literally Google, go on fucking pick

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<v Speaker 3>like your top five cities that you would want to

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<v Speaker 3>live in. Go to Facebook type what kind of music

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<v Speaker 3>do you say you play?

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<v Speaker 11>I mean blues, blues and funking' jazz.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally type going to Facebook type Brooklyn jazz and find

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<v Speaker 3>the Facebook group and make a make a post in

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<v Speaker 3>the Facebook group telling your entire story and people. I

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee people will reach out to you and they will

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<v Speaker 3>have like actual actuable advice. Like I I I, I

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<v Speaker 3>know that is like a lame answer, but like I

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<v Speaker 3>think that you should I think that you should. You

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<v Speaker 3>should you should try to connect with people because there's

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<v Speaker 3>there is I fucking like, there's got it. There's there

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<v Speaker 3>has to be someone who has been in your exact

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<v Speaker 3>situation who you could feasibly get in touch with that

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<v Speaker 3>might be able to help you.

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<v Speaker 13>In some way.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, there's one person the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said that again, there.

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<v Speaker 11>Is one person I've been wreting to reach out to

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<v Speaker 11>and and it worked before where I got the long

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<v Speaker 11>story short feature on stage with like a billboard topping

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<v Speaker 11>band because I just reached out to him, like You're

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<v Speaker 11>an influence.

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<v Speaker 3>Can keep doing that, keep keep keep keep reaching.

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<v Speaker 9>Out there.

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<v Speaker 11>There was there's this one chick, her name, she's from

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<v Speaker 11>this band called Against Me, but she did exactly what

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<v Speaker 11>I'm kind of doing right now. And they were kind

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<v Speaker 11>of famous, and they were super famous or pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 11>famous in the nineties as a punk band, and she

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<v Speaker 11>stayed as he throughout all of that, and they asked,

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<v Speaker 11>why did it take you so long to come out

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<v Speaker 11>about this? And they're like, I wanted to wait until

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<v Speaker 11>I had more than enough fans where I could lose

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<v Speaker 11>fifty percent of them and still be you know, just fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Why though.

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<v Speaker 11>It's complicated. That's what makes it so complicated is because

1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:42.160
<v Speaker 11>you know you're you're putting a like a funnel on

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<v Speaker 11>your potential. I feel like in today's world because so

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<v Speaker 11>many people you know, not everybody obviously, but there's a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of people less in this world that look at

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<v Speaker 11>someone like me and go freak crazy, lunatic weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, But I think, and this this to me, this

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<v Speaker 3>is like, to me, this isn't even like a social

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<v Speaker 3>thing any but it's just like a marketing thing, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you like it's like if you look at it

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<v Speaker 3>like that, like you you're you're in a niche in

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<v Speaker 3>a way.

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<v Speaker 11>I went to school for music business and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 11>and I mean, that's another factory right there. You got

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<v Speaker 11>to you gotta do your your brand exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's good. I think it's good to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a niche because that means the people who love you

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<v Speaker 3>and connect with you and identify with you will really

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<v Speaker 3>love you and connect you and identify with you, and

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<v Speaker 3>will really be inclined to support you more than just

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<v Speaker 3>a general person someone who is involved in your niche.

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<v Speaker 11>So I think that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you should look at it as a

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<v Speaker 3>bad thing.

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<v Speaker 11>I want to tell you that that that was what

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<v Speaker 11>you just said right there is pretty much the perfect

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<v Speaker 11>thing I needed to hear throughout this call. Like that's

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<v Speaker 11>why I think I called to.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear that Okay, good, good, because I I really fucking

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<v Speaker 3>fully believe that especially fuck I this is like some

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<v Speaker 3>fucking Gary vannerschok bullshit. But like I seriously like it

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<v Speaker 3>used to be. See if you know what, if this

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<v Speaker 3>were like a nineteen if this were like nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be fucked.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>If this were nineteen eighty one, you you you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to like you, you you couldn't do this, but you're

1:25:13.000 --> 1:25:15.400
<v Speaker 3>But it's not. It's twenty twenty and there's TikTok, and

1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:19.960
<v Speaker 3>there's arpant, and there's fucking Twitter and there's SoundCloud. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, so the the.

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<v Speaker 3>You, you, the tools are there for you to find

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<v Speaker 3>your audience and to find your niche and I and

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you look at as a bad I swear

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<v Speaker 3>to guy, everything that you look at as a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 3>everything that people call you a freak, for, everything that

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<v Speaker 3>people bully you, for, everything that people give you shit

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<v Speaker 3>for will will. This sounds cliche, but I genuinely believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>All those things will actually be the things that give

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<v Speaker 3>you the most benefit, the most value to the people

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<v Speaker 3>who identify with you. Who are gonna be your fans,

1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:52.639
<v Speaker 3>who are gonna buy your T shirts, We're gonna stream

1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:55.120
<v Speaker 3>your music, who are gonna sign up for your Patreon,

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<v Speaker 3>who are gonna, you know, do all those things.

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<v Speaker 11>Wow, I just I don't know. I just never thought

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<v Speaker 11>about it that way, never thought about you know, the

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<v Speaker 11>people that will that do come, even though it might

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<v Speaker 11>not be you knows it might be a harder road,

1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:18.479
<v Speaker 11>but the people there will be more genuinely there exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why would you want those fans in the

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<v Speaker 3>first place, The that would leave if you came out.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it sounds like I got to make some plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Make some plans, right, And look, I was someone and

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<v Speaker 3>then the someone in the chad was saying this, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you are a discord, but uh, we

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<v Speaker 3>have a little self promote channel. Definitely put your stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in there.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, we'll check it out. Well, then I mean, how

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<v Speaker 11>do I how do I join it? Is it in

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<v Speaker 11>the info below?

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<v Speaker 3>Someone type someone type exclamation point discord.

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<v Speaker 11>For us already in it, already done, rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah put I really spectre of course, man, And thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for the safe don't.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh well you know, oh no, no, no right, too

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<v Speaker 11>much too much going on, too much suff to do.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, man, take care and and and and good

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<v Speaker 3>luck to you.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you and thanks for doing what you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Chat.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll be easy.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, man, take care, have a good night you too.

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<v Speaker 12>Came from Zach Yah.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Zach.

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<v Speaker 8>Dick.

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<v Speaker 6>Finally have we.

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<v Speaker 3>Never spoken before. It's the first time that we have

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<v Speaker 3>ever spoken.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the first time we're speaking, Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>So you tell me this is you tell me that

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<v Speaker 3>this is momentous.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how many times I've called it. It

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<v Speaker 6>feels like I've been on the phone for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like it almost feels like we know

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<v Speaker 3>each other a little bit?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? No, I feel like I know you pretty well.

1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:15.160
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't know if you feel like you

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<v Speaker 6>know me, but I hope you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily fel like I know you, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't mind. We can I think we

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<v Speaker 3>can feel comfortable in each other's presence. I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 3>I have like tangible information about you necessarily, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think that we that we could you know, be and

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<v Speaker 3>have a conversation with each other.

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<v Speaker 6>That's very fair, to be honest. There there's a really

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<v Speaker 6>really good reason that I called, and I feel like

1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:43.680
<v Speaker 6>you're the only person that can that can help me

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<v Speaker 6>with this. So that's I'm really excited for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Why before you tell me what it is, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know why you think I'm the only person that

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<v Speaker 3>can help you, to.

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<v Speaker 6>Be honest, It's something that's been weighing on my mind

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<v Speaker 6>for years and years, and I've spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>time trying to figure out, you know, what it means,

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<v Speaker 6>what it could mean, what the answer is to this.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think I just came across you probably like

1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.479
<v Speaker 6>two weeks ago or so. I think it's been tiktoks

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<v Speaker 6>and I've been following you since, and you just you

1:29:20.800 --> 1:29:23.640
<v Speaker 6>have this sense of knowledge that you put off in

1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:28.519
<v Speaker 6>the areas that I've never felt from anyone else, and

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you might be able to get me

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<v Speaker 6>some insight on this particular topic. I don't know, it's

1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:34.240
<v Speaker 6>just a feeling. I guess.

1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we can try it, but I have said but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not qualified to do anything in any shape or form.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, Zach, you know what Tonight's a

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<v Speaker 3>special night. Well, I let's give it a shot. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>me what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is something that I thought about years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and like I said, I've never really been able to

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<v Speaker 6>get closure on it by myself. But I just I

1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:01.760
<v Speaker 6>really need to know and I hope you can give me,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, some some guidance on it. So here it is,

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<v Speaker 6>does is hard? Do Do dogs know their dogs?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, I have a dog.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a dog, exact and he doesn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>She has no fucking clue.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay. How do you know that she doesn't know?

1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:34.400
<v Speaker 13>Though?

1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Because she knows very few things. Yeah, food is delicious, Yeah,

1:30:46.080 --> 1:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>she knows. She knows. I mean, look, she knows things

1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:53.320
<v Speaker 3>that humans that that that animals instinctually know. Yeah, with

1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:55.479
<v Speaker 3>their brains, but with you know, their I'm not again,

1:30:55.520 --> 1:30:56.800
<v Speaker 3>this is why I don't know anything or anything. But

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<v Speaker 3>like she knows, she doesn't know what a dog is,

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<v Speaker 3>she instinctually knows what food is. She instinctually responds to

1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>affection and the release of oxytocin as we all do. Yeah,

1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:20.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, when she's being pet it releases feel good

1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.839
<v Speaker 3>chemicals in her brain, so she knows she likes being petted.

1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:28.479
<v Speaker 3>But she doesn't know these things because like adult, like,

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<v Speaker 3>everything that she knows is because of chemical is because

1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:37.160
<v Speaker 3>of chemicals being released in her brain, not because of

1:31:37.400 --> 1:31:39.960
<v Speaker 3>knowledge from like a database or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no one's ever hid her she's a dog, exactly.

1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:45.439
<v Speaker 3>No one's ever told her she's a dog. If she

1:31:45.600 --> 1:31:50.720
<v Speaker 3>can't feel it, she does not know. If she can't

1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>feel it with you, she can't feel dog with her body.

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<v Speaker 11>But sometimes my.

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<v Speaker 6>Dog follows me up to my car and he he

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<v Speaker 6>goes to the back door. He doesn't ever try to drive,

1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:08.040
<v Speaker 6>So I feel like he knows I'm a dog. I

1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:10.360
<v Speaker 6>cannot drive this car. I got to get in the back.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he doesn't know what driving a car is.

1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:17.880
<v Speaker 3>He had that that idea is not that is foreign

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<v Speaker 3>to him.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but he knows. He has to know that it's

1:32:23.479 --> 1:32:28.519
<v Speaker 6>it's a mode of transportation unlike walking on his four legs,

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<v Speaker 6>And he has to know that he's not capable of

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<v Speaker 6>making that possible, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and I don't think he thinks that

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<v Speaker 3>much about this. I don't think he's thinking that. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he's thinking as hard about it as you

1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>think he is.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to think that he's so smart.

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<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Look, I'm not going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>kid telling you that Santa Claus isn't real even though

1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>he's not.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, well, but you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 5>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 3>The dogs don't know anything, you know what? Okay? Like, hey,

1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>what you want to hear something interesting that I read something.

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<v Speaker 6>I absolutely love to hear something interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>This fucking this actually kind of freaked me out a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>But like.

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<v Speaker 3>I read. I read this article that was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>how consciousness isn't a binary of conscious and unconscious. It's

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<v Speaker 3>actually a spectrum. There's more conscious to let there's more

1:33:30.280 --> 1:33:34.519
<v Speaker 3>conscious and there's less conscious and humans this was I

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<v Speaker 3>think is really fucking interesting. Humans have not won the

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<v Speaker 3>binary of consciousness and unconscious by being conscious. They're simply

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<v Speaker 3>more conscious than other things, which means there's something more

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<v Speaker 3>conscious than us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So like an ant doesn't understand the world of a chicken, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a chicken and understand the world of a dog. Don't

1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:07.560
<v Speaker 3>imagine how like like, imagine how little a dog understands

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<v Speaker 3>the human world. There is another organism above us that

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<v Speaker 3>we understand as much that we can only understand as

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<v Speaker 3>much as a dog could understand us.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, do you do you think that that type of

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<v Speaker 6>organism is here with us?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he cares about us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I mean human dogs follow us around. That Like,

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<v Speaker 6>do you think it's possible that we could follow that

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<v Speaker 6>around and not even realize that it possesses this ability

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<v Speaker 6>over us.

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<v Speaker 3>Dogs follow us around because we do things to them

1:34:54.439 --> 1:34:58.679
<v Speaker 3>that release feel good chemicals in their brain. Yeah, such

1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>as pat them and give them food, because that's the

1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:03.000
<v Speaker 3>only thing they know is those chemicals in their brain.

1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:05.960
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I think that means that you're

1:35:06.120 --> 1:35:07.760
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I wouldn't say that doesn't mean your

1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:09.599
<v Speaker 3>dog love does love you. I think your dog actually

1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:11.960
<v Speaker 3>does love you. Yeah, I also think. I mean, this

1:35:12.120 --> 1:35:17.240
<v Speaker 3>is some fucking pickle Rick shit right here. But love

1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:18.759
<v Speaker 3>is you know, just chemical?

1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:19.920
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>No, for sure, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm, so your dog does love you, but love is

1:35:32.680 --> 1:35:34.679
<v Speaker 3>it is just a chemical that compels humans to breathe.

1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>That's a quote from Rick and Morty, but it's kind

1:35:37.120 --> 1:35:41.559
<v Speaker 3>of true. Yeah, and I'm you know, I'm Pickle Rick.

1:35:42.320 --> 1:35:44.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know you gotta rip that band aid all.

1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:52.439
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes the hard reality to face, but a necessary one.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing, Exach, I'm doing good. You know.

1:35:57.680 --> 1:36:02.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm sitting here thanks to my girlfriend where we were

1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:05.120
<v Speaker 6>watching a hockey game. She's she's passed out. She's pregnant,

1:36:05.200 --> 1:36:06.280
<v Speaker 6>so she falls asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty easy, you girlfriend, I do.

1:36:09.600 --> 1:36:13.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I love her more than anything outside of our

1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:15.200
<v Speaker 6>son growing inside of her stomach.

1:36:16.880 --> 1:36:19.320
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:20.479
<v Speaker 11>It's pretty cool.

1:36:20.600 --> 1:36:24.280
<v Speaker 6>But that you know, what is love?

1:36:27.760 --> 1:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Well? You know, a cartoon once said that love is

1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:33.599
<v Speaker 3>just a chemical that compels humans to bring.

1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:36.120
<v Speaker 11>Oh, she just woke up.

1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:39.920
<v Speaker 6>She says, Hi, hello, man, this is awesome. I'm so

1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:43.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, I called so many times. I thought that

1:36:43.760 --> 1:36:46.200
<v Speaker 6>my service provider was going to cancel my service. But

1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:47.519
<v Speaker 6>here we are.

1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:51.800
<v Speaker 3>We did it, Zach. We did it, and you know what,

1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:54.800
<v Speaker 3>thank you, Thank you for being persistent enough to get here.

1:36:56.200 --> 1:36:58.200
<v Speaker 6>You know, I couldn't have done it without you.

1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:00.760
<v Speaker 5>There.

1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:02.479
<v Speaker 6>There are multiple times where I was like, you know,

1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:05.640
<v Speaker 6>it's not gonna happen, and I didn't the call, you know,

1:37:05.680 --> 1:37:08.200
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't redial, and I'd go back to the stream,

1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:10.000
<v Speaker 6>and then somebody else would say, you know, I've called

1:37:10.200 --> 1:37:12.040
<v Speaker 6>this many times and I can't get through, and you're like,

1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:14.639
<v Speaker 6>don't give up. And I was like, yeah, yeah, don't

1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:15.000
<v Speaker 6>give up.

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<v Speaker 3>You got this, And ladies and gentlemen, this is this

1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:20.160
<v Speaker 3>right here is a success story.

1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:21.160
<v Speaker 6>This is a breath.

1:37:21.200 --> 1:37:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean? You know, I'm gonna

1:37:22.320 --> 1:37:23.560
<v Speaker 3>start doing and I gotta figure out to do. I

1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>need a breakthrough button, like when we have a breakthrough

1:37:28.479 --> 1:37:28.720
<v Speaker 3>like the.

1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:31.400
<v Speaker 6>Staples that was easy button or like something bigger, like

1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:35.439
<v Speaker 6>it's just you know, like a button. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1:37:37.040 --> 1:37:38.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean I can't make one, but if you had one,

1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:41.320
<v Speaker 6>that would be cool. I wish I could contribute.

1:37:43.520 --> 1:37:44.400
<v Speaker 3>We'll figure something out.

1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:49.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah all right, well I'll give someone else a chance.

1:37:49.600 --> 1:37:54.080
<v Speaker 6>I appreciate your time. It's it's been great. You really

1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:56.439
<v Speaker 6>give me some insight on something I've been, you know,

1:37:56.600 --> 1:37:59.080
<v Speaker 6>a demon I've been you know, struggling with for the

1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:00.439
<v Speaker 6>past you know how long.

1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm happy to help you out. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this doesn't change your relationship with your dog.

1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:09.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh it doesn't know. I love him very much, and

1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:12.240
<v Speaker 6>I'm hopefu that he loves me. If he doesn't, then

1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:15.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's fine. He does, he gets said and

1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:21.680
<v Speaker 6>he's cool with whatever. But you know, yeah, well you

1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:24.400
<v Speaker 6>can't change the way that people or dogs feel, you know,

1:38:25.680 --> 1:38:26.919
<v Speaker 6>you can only adjust accordingly.

1:38:28.360 --> 1:38:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll drink to that. Have a good evening, Zach.

1:38:32.280 --> 1:38:32.640
<v Speaker 5>I love you.

1:38:41.880 --> 1:38:43.400
<v Speaker 6>All from you A.

1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Elonkay?

1:38:49.360 --> 1:38:49.960
<v Speaker 12>How are you doing?

1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:50.360
<v Speaker 6>Gigs?

1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:51.960
<v Speaker 8>Uh?

1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:54.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm all right, And thank you for asking,

1:38:54.840 --> 1:38:58.320
<v Speaker 3>because not a lot look like high level with you here. Yeah,

1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:00.800
<v Speaker 3>not a lot of people as not a lot of

1:39:00.840 --> 1:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>people ask me how I am, which is fine. I

1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:06.800
<v Speaker 3>don't mind the people ask me how I am that

1:39:06.920 --> 1:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>often either because they're not obligated to. I'm not. I

1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:12.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't set up the streams so that people could ask

1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:15.120
<v Speaker 3>me how I am. That would be ridiculous, but I

1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>appreciate what they do have that response, of course exactly.

1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's always nice, but I'm not actively seeking it.

1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not actively Have you ever lied elive? No, actually

1:39:27.000 --> 1:39:28.559
<v Speaker 3>we'll get into that. What are you doing right now?

1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:29.960
<v Speaker 12>What am I doing?

1:39:30.120 --> 1:39:30.240
<v Speaker 8>Well?

1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:33.560
<v Speaker 12>Right now, I've been having a few booze and watching.

1:39:33.320 --> 1:39:35.479
<v Speaker 1>The stream That's cool.

1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:42.599
<v Speaker 3>What what do you What do you usually do all day?

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<v Speaker 12>What do I usually do all day? Well, see, I'm

1:39:45.960 --> 1:39:50.439
<v Speaker 12>a diesel technician, so usually I'm working on heavy equipment

1:39:50.560 --> 1:39:51.479
<v Speaker 12>or semi trucks.

1:39:57.040 --> 1:39:59.400
<v Speaker 3>So you work on trucks all day yep.

1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:04.160
<v Speaker 12>Minds all day? Always the thread of being crushed. I

1:40:04.320 --> 1:40:04.960
<v Speaker 12>love doing it.

1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, that's kind of that's scary. You're like constantly

1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:14.879
<v Speaker 3>under your a constant threat of a gigantic machine crushing

1:40:14.960 --> 1:40:15.439
<v Speaker 3>your skull.

1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:18.160
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, exactly, And that's the thrill.

1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:20.400
<v Speaker 12>There's nothing better than that.

1:40:20.560 --> 1:40:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Thal real? Are you serious right now? You know that's

1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:26.479
<v Speaker 3>weird because if you just if you had just told

1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:33.519
<v Speaker 3>me that you enjoy the mechanics of fixing cars, I

1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:36.280
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't think that was crazily fucked up. But the fact

1:40:36.280 --> 1:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>that you're telling me that you enjoy the danger of

1:40:39.000 --> 1:40:43.120
<v Speaker 3>potentially getting your head crushed by being underneath a car,

1:40:44.360 --> 1:40:48.720
<v Speaker 3>that's the excipherment. I almost don't believe you.

1:40:49.720 --> 1:40:54.160
<v Speaker 12>No, that's the real excitement. Are as safe as possible,

1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.479
<v Speaker 12>you could be as safe as possibly can, but you

1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:59.560
<v Speaker 12>never know if that thing's going to crush you, so

1:40:59.640 --> 1:41:02.280
<v Speaker 12>you always have to keep that like ready thought of

1:41:02.400 --> 1:41:03.040
<v Speaker 12>fight or flight.

1:41:03.640 --> 1:41:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Are you being serious? Right now.

1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:06.479
<v Speaker 12>I'm being dead serious.

1:41:08.360 --> 1:41:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I can't that makes no, I'm not I'm not doing

1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:14.559
<v Speaker 3>this to I. Look, I know there's a funny situation

1:41:15.360 --> 1:41:17.479
<v Speaker 3>and there's a funny call, but I'm not doing this

1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:21.519
<v Speaker 3>to except that makes no sense whatsoever, and I am

1:41:21.800 --> 1:41:22.640
<v Speaker 3>still I don't believe it.

1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:24.120
<v Speaker 9>It's the thrill.

1:41:24.240 --> 1:41:27.720
<v Speaker 12>So I've always been a thrill seeker. I've always been

1:41:27.760 --> 1:41:32.360
<v Speaker 12>on dirt bikes, always always been looking for that fight

1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:32.840
<v Speaker 12>or flight.

1:41:33.520 --> 1:41:34.320
<v Speaker 13>But that's.

1:41:35.640 --> 1:41:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Dirt bikes, and like skydiving.

1:41:38.840 --> 1:41:42.360
<v Speaker 12>There's real so different, I know, but I couldn't find

1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:47.040
<v Speaker 12>my way into that profession. I ended up usually getting hurt.

1:41:53.120 --> 1:41:55.479
<v Speaker 3>That's like saying that like you get that To me,

1:41:55.720 --> 1:41:57.680
<v Speaker 3>that's like saying that you get a thrill out of

1:41:57.800 --> 1:42:01.840
<v Speaker 3>like holding a knife up to your throat but not

1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:04.120
<v Speaker 3>slicing your throat.

1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:07.240
<v Speaker 12>No, I wouldn't take it that far, but I do

1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:15.800
<v Speaker 12>like that fight or flight's stimulation. However, I do know

1:42:16.040 --> 1:42:19.719
<v Speaker 12>that the real question of this stream was about the lie.

1:42:21.880 --> 1:42:25.800
<v Speaker 3>No, there's wait, so are you sorry you telling me?

1:42:25.960 --> 1:42:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Would you would you prefer to work in an environment

1:42:32.200 --> 1:42:35.320
<v Speaker 3>that had would you get off on working in an

1:42:35.439 --> 1:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>environment that had that had less safety restrictions.

1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:45.360
<v Speaker 12>No, not necessarily, because I also highly look after safety.

1:42:45.800 --> 1:42:49.120
<v Speaker 12>But sometimes that even when safety is at the highest

1:42:49.160 --> 1:42:51.760
<v Speaker 12>precaution and shit's been looked at, you never know if

1:42:51.800 --> 1:42:56.080
<v Speaker 12>something's going to go wrong for no reason. There's always

1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:57.160
<v Speaker 12>that slight chance.

1:43:02.760 --> 1:43:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Why does that appeal to you when you're fixing a car,

1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:10.040
<v Speaker 3>but you're just that makes no sense When you're fixing cars, I.

1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:16.200
<v Speaker 12>Behind it and engineering. I also love mechanics and engineering

1:43:16.560 --> 1:43:20.160
<v Speaker 12>very much. I also love taking things apart. But I've

1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:23.000
<v Speaker 12>also been a thrill seeker myself, and sometimes I know

1:43:23.160 --> 1:43:25.240
<v Speaker 12>that that thoughts in the back of my head. When

1:43:25.280 --> 1:43:27.960
<v Speaker 12>the trucks stable, I know there's nothing to be worried about.

1:43:28.000 --> 1:43:31.200
<v Speaker 12>But when like you are doing something that's heavy equipment,

1:43:31.280 --> 1:43:33.280
<v Speaker 12>you know, and you have to strap a crane to

1:43:33.439 --> 1:43:36.719
<v Speaker 12>it and pull it out and everything's working perfectly fine,

1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:41.720
<v Speaker 12>but something accidentally slips for no reason. There's always that

1:43:41.920 --> 1:43:44.680
<v Speaker 12>danger behind those kinds of jobs, and it's kind of

1:43:44.840 --> 1:43:47.720
<v Speaker 12>crazy to watch and try to like figure out what

1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:49.920
<v Speaker 12>you could do better next time. If it did happen,

1:43:50.160 --> 1:43:52.200
<v Speaker 12>nothing could happen, no one could get hurt because of

1:43:52.240 --> 1:43:55.160
<v Speaker 12>the safety precautions that were in place. But there's always

1:43:55.240 --> 1:43:58.320
<v Speaker 12>that thrill of being like, whoa, that shit was crazy?

1:44:04.960 --> 1:44:10.280
<v Speaker 3>All right, real quick? Can I answer something? What have

1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:12.760
<v Speaker 3>you ever lied? Boy?

1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:13.519
<v Speaker 6>Yes?

1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:18.200
<v Speaker 12>And I've only told a handful of people this life,

1:44:20.640 --> 1:44:23.200
<v Speaker 12>and it would be amazing to have it out in public.

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<v Speaker 5>Hit.

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<v Speaker 12>So a few years back.

1:44:32.640 --> 1:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I got.

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<v Speaker 12>Heavily under the influence of alcohol, way too wasted for

1:44:39.840 --> 1:44:43.360
<v Speaker 12>my own good at my girlfriend's mom's house while watching

1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:50.360
<v Speaker 12>her dog. Well, I ended up shitting on her mom's

1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:58.559
<v Speaker 12>floor and then blaming the dog later when I found

1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:00.320
<v Speaker 12>out that I shot on the or.

1:45:04.840 --> 1:45:06.080
<v Speaker 9>And got away with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And to this day she doesn't know, no, and happily.

1:45:12.840 --> 1:45:17.160
<v Speaker 12>It's an X now. But yes, she did not know.

1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:20.880
<v Speaker 12>I ended up picking up my own shit, but she

1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:22.840
<v Speaker 12>never knew it was probably me.

1:45:24.400 --> 1:45:27.800
<v Speaker 3>You ended up picking it up? Yeah, ended picking it up.

1:45:28.720 --> 1:45:30.920
<v Speaker 12>I ended up picking it up with paper towel and

1:45:31.000 --> 1:45:31.920
<v Speaker 12>stuff and flushing it.

1:45:32.080 --> 1:45:39.720
<v Speaker 3>But sheould apologize to the dog man.

1:45:40.800 --> 1:45:43.160
<v Speaker 12>Oh dude, that dog was amazing too.

1:45:43.280 --> 1:45:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I love that dog.

1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:46.160
<v Speaker 12>I felt so bad.

1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:51.320
<v Speaker 3>She think the dog was pissed to you.

1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:54.599
<v Speaker 11>Probably he looked really upset.

1:45:54.720 --> 1:45:57.160
<v Speaker 12>When I looked over at him, he looked at me

1:45:57.280 --> 1:45:59.360
<v Speaker 12>and just kind of looked down in the way, I

1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:00.360
<v Speaker 12>felt real bad.

1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:06.400
<v Speaker 3>What do you think you could do to make it

1:46:06.479 --> 1:46:07.000
<v Speaker 3>up to the dog?

1:46:08.720 --> 1:46:11.000
<v Speaker 12>If I were to ever meet that dog again, I

1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.160
<v Speaker 12>would give it the biggest milk bone I've ever seen,

1:46:14.280 --> 1:46:17.560
<v Speaker 12>plus a giant cow leg cowbone.

1:46:24.840 --> 1:46:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Would that be enough?

1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:27.439
<v Speaker 6>It might be.

1:46:27.720 --> 1:46:29.240
<v Speaker 12>I'd probably have to give them.

1:46:29.160 --> 1:46:30.120
<v Speaker 11>A lot of walks too.

1:46:37.320 --> 1:46:37.760
<v Speaker 3>What'd you say?

1:46:37.760 --> 1:46:38.240
<v Speaker 13>Your name was?

1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:40.639
<v Speaker 12>My name was Eli, Man.

1:46:42.080 --> 1:46:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Eli.

1:46:43.800 --> 1:46:44.040
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

1:46:44.760 --> 1:46:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for being honest with us about your lie, and

1:46:47.160 --> 1:46:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I hope it made you feel better to come clean

1:46:48.800 --> 1:46:49.120
<v Speaker 3>about that.

1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:53.080
<v Speaker 12>It really did, Man. Thank you for letting me bring

1:46:53.160 --> 1:46:53.479
<v Speaker 12>that up.

1:46:54.760 --> 1:46:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

1:46:56.880 --> 1:46:57.880
<v Speaker 12>You have a great night.

1:46:57.960 --> 1:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Man you too, Man, I love I'll talk to you soon.

1:47:01.560 --> 1:47:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I love you.

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<v Speaker 13>You get.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I should? I drink some water? I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to drink any I don't want to drink water anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of you. Know how people say they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to quit carbs, they're trying to quit sugar. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to quit water. I write a blog saying that too

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<v Speaker 3>much water is bad for you. It makes you gain weight,

1:47:28.160 --> 1:47:33.639
<v Speaker 3>it makes you fat. Water makes the fat. I'm I'm i'm, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a water fast. I'm doing a water fast,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm doing the opposite of the water. Most people

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<v Speaker 3>when they do water fast, they only drink water. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing I'm eating everything and drinking everything besides water.

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<v Speaker 12>Ethan pellet.

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<v Speaker 3>Ethan Pelleteer, Hello, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 10>You're in?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you watching this? You? Are you watching the stream?

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<v Speaker 3>Ethan Pelletier.

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<v Speaker 5>I just shut it off?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you just shut it off. Where are you? What

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<v Speaker 3>room of your house are you in right now? If

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<v Speaker 3>you live in a house I live.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in my living room.

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<v Speaker 6>I just left my bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Where can you I don't Where can you go where

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<v Speaker 3>you're even more isolated than your living room? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a cellar of some kind?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on one second, I do have a cellar, but

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<v Speaker 5>uh are you able to hear me better?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you in the cellar?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I switched a speaker phones.

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<v Speaker 3>I want the most isolated version of you. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want you to fill I don't want you in your

1:48:44.240 --> 1:48:46.040
<v Speaker 3>living room where you're like, Oh no, my roommate's going

1:48:46.120 --> 1:48:47.479
<v Speaker 3>to come in and hear me talking to Gecko.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you know, oh, I live in a house

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<v Speaker 5>by myself. I live in a house by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you do all day?

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<v Speaker 5>I worked from let's say nine to five. I'm an accountant,

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<v Speaker 5>and I came home just kind of relaxed. I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of got a I actually had a reduction in my

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<v Speaker 5>own anxiety because I've been taking an auditing course and

1:49:23.040 --> 1:49:24.600
<v Speaker 5>I found out that I got an A on a

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<v Speaker 5>paper that I thought I bombed. So I was like,

1:49:29.080 --> 1:49:31.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how I did that, but hey, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>take it. We were taking an auditing course, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>just it's an eight week course and it's so I

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<v Speaker 5>can get into graduate school.

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<v Speaker 3>What is auditing?

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<v Speaker 5>Farting is basically just trying to make sure that okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so trying to find a right way to put it

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<v Speaker 5>all right. In accounting, accountants, mostly what they do is

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<v Speaker 5>just record transactions. So let's say, uh, you own a

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<v Speaker 5>company and you need to purchase some materials for some reason.

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<v Speaker 5>An accountant records that transaction. They record any transaction that

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<v Speaker 5>has to do with money, and then they make balance

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<v Speaker 5>sheets and reports based on the money that is spent

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<v Speaker 5>and take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think we go when we die?

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<v Speaker 5>I do not know yet. Do you think, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I have been thinking. I have to admit that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of comes in my head every so often and i'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to see it. Yeah, it's something that comes in

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<v Speaker 5>my head because I got a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>fear of death, so I kind of would like to

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<v Speaker 5>make I prefer the idea of there being something, just

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<v Speaker 5>because I don't like the idea of going out and

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<v Speaker 5>being nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, are you afraid of death?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh? I just it's something that I've carried since I

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<v Speaker 5>was a kid, and uh, it's just the idea. I

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<v Speaker 5>just don't like the idea of ceasing to exist as

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<v Speaker 5>myself or that even that remote possibility of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Because as as someone.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's agnostic, I'm not certain, but I just I genuinely

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<v Speaker 5>don't like the idea of you know, poof.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you say that, what do you when you

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<v Speaker 3>say exists as yourself? Does that mean that like, if

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<v Speaker 3>let's say you found out that you could be reincarnated

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<v Speaker 3>as like like that, you wouldn't like that. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even if it was you. You get to keep on living,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't live as ethan pelleteer.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to keep my identity and my person I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I just really like being me and I

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<v Speaker 5>don't really ever want to lose that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like your life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for the most part. Yes, I mean to get

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<v Speaker 5>where I've been. I've definitely been through lives of crap.

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<v Speaker 5>I lost my mom three years ago to leukemia, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of how I got the house. I inherited

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<v Speaker 5>it from her, and I had to deal with some

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<v Speaker 5>guilt over that because I felt guilty that I profited

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<v Speaker 5>over her death. But I came to a point where

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<v Speaker 5>I realized that, you know, I remember my mother, and

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<v Speaker 5>I remember like the good and the bad, and I

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<v Speaker 5>do care about her.

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<v Speaker 11>And there's something.

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<v Speaker 5>If she were alive, she'd be proud of where I

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<v Speaker 5>am today, and she'd be happy that I have the house.

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<v Speaker 5>She'd be happy that I still have the house because

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<v Speaker 5>when she died, I didn't have a job, so it

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<v Speaker 5>was a very uncertain time period where I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 5>if I was going to be able to keep the

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<v Speaker 5>house or not. When I fortunately found a good accounting job,

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<v Speaker 5>and well, I had to save my house.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree, I can understand where those feelings of

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<v Speaker 3>like guilt would come. But like, dude, what you said,

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<v Speaker 3>like full on, like she would want you to have

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<v Speaker 3>that house, she would want you to have a good life.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and she'd be proud of me from where I

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<v Speaker 5>am today. And it wasn't like I killed her or

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<v Speaker 5>anything like that. So it's not like I was wishing

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<v Speaker 5>for her death or doing nothing actively.

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<v Speaker 3>No one, no one thought that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I know, I'm just saying, it's not like I

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<v Speaker 5>was doing those things, so I shouldn't feel any guilt

1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:34.799
<v Speaker 5>towards that, you know what I mean. I guess obviously

1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:36.760
<v Speaker 5>if I weren't to be a bad person anyway, so

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't even feel guilt in that situation.

1:53:38.840 --> 1:53:43.599
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I I guess makes sense too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you had done it, if you had killed your mom,

1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:49.200
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't feel guilty about it because the type of

1:53:49.240 --> 1:53:52.400
<v Speaker 3>person that would do that is probably antisocial enough that

1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:54.160
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't They would do it and not feel guilty

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, definitely, So I I have to admit, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I do really like having my own house.

1:54:07.520 --> 1:54:09.479
<v Speaker 5>But and that's part of where some of that guilt

1:54:09.600 --> 1:54:15.320
<v Speaker 5>was coming from. But you know again it's I mean,

1:54:15.360 --> 1:54:18.000
<v Speaker 5>what can you do. You can get the cards that

1:54:18.040 --> 1:54:20.320
<v Speaker 5>you're dealt with and you play them as as they come,

1:54:20.960 --> 1:54:23.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, m hm.

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<v Speaker 3>Well ethan Pelleteer, You know, I'm happy for you. You know,

1:54:28.520 --> 1:54:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. I was a little when you

1:54:30.800 --> 1:54:33.480
<v Speaker 3>were talking about auditing. I was a little bored.

1:54:34.000 --> 1:54:36.160
<v Speaker 5>But oh, I know act is very boring.

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<v Speaker 3>But you But that's the thing is yourself. You're aware

1:54:39.560 --> 1:54:42.120
<v Speaker 3>of the you. I think that you're because i've you know,

1:54:42.320 --> 1:54:46.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a stereotype about like accountants that they're like their

1:54:46.280 --> 1:54:48.160
<v Speaker 3>parents made them be an accountant or whatever. But you

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<v Speaker 3>seem this does seem like a path that you have chosen.

1:54:50.920 --> 1:54:52.360
<v Speaker 3>You're happy with. I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, there can actually be some really funny stuff that

1:54:56.800 --> 1:54:57.600
<v Speaker 5>happens in accounting.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'll so.

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<v Speaker 5>We have this thief where I work, and then there's

1:55:05.280 --> 1:55:08.440
<v Speaker 5>really incompetent people where I work. There's something that's common

1:55:08.480 --> 1:55:12.760
<v Speaker 5>in probably any profession. And one of the one of these,

1:55:13.720 --> 1:55:19.040
<v Speaker 5>this one dude, basically he finds out that somebody is

1:55:19.080 --> 1:55:22.960
<v Speaker 5>stealing from his store. So what he does is he

1:55:23.080 --> 1:55:28.560
<v Speaker 5>decides to basically have her pay back what she stole,

1:55:29.440 --> 1:55:33.040
<v Speaker 5>which if the first time, if it never happened again,

1:55:33.440 --> 1:55:35.640
<v Speaker 5>I guess you could say it worked. But she kept

1:55:35.680 --> 1:55:38.440
<v Speaker 5>stealing from the store over and over again, and they

1:55:38.480 --> 1:55:40.080
<v Speaker 5>kept trying to make her pay it back, and at

1:55:40.080 --> 1:55:42.000
<v Speaker 5>one point, my coworkers just like, well, you just keep

1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:45.280
<v Speaker 5>giving her interest free loans, so you know, it's just

1:55:45.720 --> 1:55:48.440
<v Speaker 5>you get stories like that doing it. But that's going

1:55:48.520 --> 1:55:51.080
<v Speaker 5>to happen anywhere, allright.

1:55:51.120 --> 1:55:54.160
<v Speaker 3>We asked with you again that story I also found boring,

1:55:54.200 --> 1:55:58.400
<v Speaker 3>but I find it makes me. It makes me happy

1:55:58.680 --> 1:56:00.360
<v Speaker 3>that you find it interesting.

1:56:01.560 --> 1:56:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, I should also admit that, uh, this is

1:56:06.080 --> 1:56:09.560
<v Speaker 5>actually the third time I've called like that i'd actually

1:56:09.600 --> 1:56:15.120
<v Speaker 5>gotten u. We've talked twice before. The first conversation I

1:56:15.240 --> 1:56:18.200
<v Speaker 5>told about the roommate, the one that was going around

1:56:18.280 --> 1:56:21.000
<v Speaker 5>the storms. You know it's happened.

1:56:21.440 --> 1:56:27.040
<v Speaker 8>Yes, well, I admit, Look, I hope that.

1:56:27.040 --> 1:56:29.520
<v Speaker 3>We have a fourth time and a fifth time at

1:56:29.520 --> 1:56:32.680
<v Speaker 3>a sixth time until until it's all over. And I

1:56:32.800 --> 1:56:34.560
<v Speaker 3>love you very much and I'll talk to you again soon.

1:56:35.600 --> 1:56:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes, thank you. And I also wanted to say that

1:56:39.280 --> 1:56:43.160
<v Speaker 5>I feel like this is a good arc for me

1:56:43.560 --> 1:56:46.520
<v Speaker 5>because when I first started talking to you, I felt

1:56:46.600 --> 1:56:50.320
<v Speaker 5>really nervous. The second time I was a little less nervous,

1:56:50.400 --> 1:56:54.200
<v Speaker 5>but this time I felt very comfortable. And I thank

1:56:54.240 --> 1:56:54.640
<v Speaker 5>you for that.

1:56:55.960 --> 1:56:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Good. I'm glad that you felt comfortable. You know, you

1:56:59.280 --> 1:56:59.960
<v Speaker 3>got a good thing though.

1:57:00.040 --> 1:57:05.480
<v Speaker 5>Nathan Pelletier yeah, definitely, and you do too, because honestly,

1:57:05.600 --> 1:57:08.800
<v Speaker 5>this show it's gonna take off, it's already taken off.

1:57:09.760 --> 1:57:13.520
<v Speaker 5>And the fact is that, I mean, you're You're only

1:57:13.520 --> 1:57:14.320
<v Speaker 5>gonna go up from here.

1:57:15.080 --> 1:57:17.120
<v Speaker 3>So when I'm making millions of dollars, I know who

1:57:17.200 --> 1:57:17.440
<v Speaker 3>to call.

1:57:18.760 --> 1:57:21.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you'll need a good accountant. All right, man,

1:57:21.880 --> 1:57:22.320
<v Speaker 5>I'll talk.

1:57:22.240 --> 1:57:22.640
<v Speaker 3>To you soon.

1:57:23.520 --> 1:57:26.800
<v Speaker 5>All right, Thank you, Uh, talk to you later, by later.

1:57:26.840 --> 1:57:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I love you, Pelt.

1:57:38.240 --> 1:57:43.240
<v Speaker 6>Hello, Hello, See this is Aaron?

1:57:45.480 --> 1:57:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Is Aaron?

1:57:46.960 --> 1:57:47.240
<v Speaker 6>Darren?

1:57:48.400 --> 1:57:50.120
<v Speaker 3>You said this is Dan or Aaron?

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<v Speaker 6>A a Ron?

1:57:53.280 --> 1:57:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Aaron. My best friend in elementary school is named Aaron.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had not got into a fight because three

1:57:59.320 --> 1:58:02.640
<v Speaker 3>of my friends broke into his house when we were

1:58:02.800 --> 1:58:07.560
<v Speaker 3>thirteen and we raided his fridge, and we raided his

1:58:07.640 --> 1:58:09.240
<v Speaker 3>fridge and he had a fucking you know, the book

1:58:09.320 --> 1:58:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Call of the Wild? Aaron. Do you know what book?

1:58:12.480 --> 1:58:14.720
<v Speaker 3>He had a fucking copy of Call of the Wild

1:58:14.840 --> 1:58:15.080
<v Speaker 3>in his.

1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:19.400
<v Speaker 6>Fridge, just keeping it cold in there, and then he

1:58:19.600 --> 1:58:20.440
<v Speaker 6>and then he came in.

1:58:20.640 --> 1:58:23.240
<v Speaker 3>He busted it back. He came home and he looked

1:58:23.240 --> 1:58:24.520
<v Speaker 3>at me and he was like what And he looked

1:58:24.520 --> 1:58:26.240
<v Speaker 3>at us and he was like, what are you guys doing?

1:58:26.480 --> 1:58:27.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I held up the copy of Call the

1:58:27.960 --> 1:58:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Wild and I was like, what are you doing? But

1:58:30.560 --> 1:58:32.040
<v Speaker 3>he was in the right. I was wrong because I

1:58:32.080 --> 1:58:34.560
<v Speaker 3>was in his house. No, he didn't give a fuck.

1:58:34.640 --> 1:58:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I actually I was. I was in way more trouble

1:58:36.640 --> 1:58:39.160
<v Speaker 3>than he was. There's something illegal about putting a copy

1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:42.960
<v Speaker 3>of Call in the Wild in your fridge, but breaking

1:58:42.960 --> 1:58:44.360
<v Speaker 3>into someone's house is a different story.

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<v Speaker 6>Well that's funny, that's a good story.

1:58:50.400 --> 1:58:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Aaron.

1:58:53.520 --> 1:58:54.600
<v Speaker 6>How we going, man? How you doing?

1:58:55.360 --> 1:58:58.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm all right. And by the way, you know,

1:58:58.640 --> 1:59:00.880
<v Speaker 3>thanks for asking people l ask about me, which is

1:59:00.920 --> 1:59:02.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, is fine? Then I obligate it to but

1:59:02.400 --> 1:59:06.800
<v Speaker 3>it does feel less than they do. What are you

1:59:06.880 --> 1:59:07.360
<v Speaker 3>doing right now?

1:59:07.520 --> 1:59:11.040
<v Speaker 6>Eron, I was just watching the stream all night. I've

1:59:11.040 --> 1:59:12.400
<v Speaker 6>been loving it. It's great.

1:59:12.480 --> 1:59:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

1:59:13.200 --> 1:59:15.000
<v Speaker 6>This is your first time in the format, you know,

1:59:15.160 --> 1:59:16.160
<v Speaker 6>just talking to one another.

1:59:17.960 --> 1:59:19.160
<v Speaker 3>Is this your first time watching it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it's the first time, like some other callers here,

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<v Speaker 6>I just saw you on Reddit. I thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, thank you man, I'm happy, happier part of

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<v Speaker 3>the niche. You know, Reddit? What else do you do

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<v Speaker 3>on Reddit? What are your most frequented subs?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh Man I'm actually really new to it all. To

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<v Speaker 6>be honest, I'm like a revert or maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like the Benjamin Button of internet people. I've I've

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<v Speaker 6>been off internet and social media and stuff for a

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<v Speaker 6>really long time, but just starting to get back into it,

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<v Speaker 6>but trying to use it responsibly. I guess I love

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<v Speaker 6>psychology and stuff, so I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>issues with stuff online I try to stay away from.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I said I would make this a quickie.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of some good.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of some but I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>think of some good questions I can get for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a short singer, Yeah yeah, Aaron.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your favorite color?

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<v Speaker 6>If you know what? Funny enough? I love green. Emerald

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<v Speaker 6>green is probably my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Why.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why. It's it's just really pretty. Actually

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<v Speaker 6>most of my I have a room in my house

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<v Speaker 6>it's just painted green. Not like a bright, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>awesome gecko green, but but a nice team bery green.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your five favorite green things?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Man, okay, First on top of my head is Kermit

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<v Speaker 6>because he's a classic Oscar ouch also classic. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know why. I'm just going with puppets.

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<v Speaker 11>That's odd fair enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you say green things just in general?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Green things? Or I guess green characters.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pickle somebody in chats of green apples. I really

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<v Speaker 6>love greens.

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<v Speaker 8>Have apples.

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<v Speaker 6>That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>We got pickles, apples, Oscar the Grouch and Kermit.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, so one more, one more. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 6>go with trees. I love trees, some pretty all shapes

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<v Speaker 6>of colors. I love nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, that's some good. I thought that was solid.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was solid too. I think you did

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<v Speaker 3>a good job with that. You got, we got, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a good mix of there was a good variety

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<v Speaker 3>of characters. We got some foods in there, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we got nature.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I started with a couple of puppets. Then I brought

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<v Speaker 6>it back around to being normal. I think by the

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<v Speaker 6>end there, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron, I think this was successful. This was if Look,

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<v Speaker 3>if I had to you know, you did a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>But Nate, I didn't think it was possible to do

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<v Speaker 3>an actively not that one would do a bad I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was possible to do an actively bad job either,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was possible to do an actively good job

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<v Speaker 3>at naming five green things.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think you did it okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you were on the spot.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt pressure, but that's good and I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't tell I think that you. I think you

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<v Speaker 3>handled that pressure perfectly.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh perfect. Thanks, I want I got to come off tomove.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Aerin. Thank you for coming in and sharing your

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge of green things with us. And uh, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>to have you on the stream for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that. I hope you stick around.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, hey, my happy life pleasure. Yeah, thanks talking

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<v Speaker 6>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, dude. I love you very much and I

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<v Speaker 3>hope to see you soon and have a good rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the night.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>You too, Man, I appreciate it. Take care, take care,

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<v Speaker 6>all right bye.

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