Speaker 1: Aw from Jay.
Speaker 2: Jay, Yeah real quick.
Speaker 3: Real real quick? Yeah, how quick?
Speaker 4: Well here's the thing.
Speaker 3: No, how quick, real quick? How quick?
Speaker 5: Is this?
Speaker 4: I wanted to know about the pickup deal?
Speaker 6: Are you still doing the seven ninety nine pickup deal?
Speaker 3: All right, here's what I'm gonna tell you're reading right now,
Speaker 3: is I will I will, I will engage with this bit.
Speaker 3: But are you prepared to after doing the bit, you know,
Speaker 3: provide me with I'll do the bit. But if we're
Speaker 3: just gonna do the bit and then afterwards, you're not
Speaker 3: gonna give me anything of substance, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I want to do the bit. If you can promise
Speaker 3: me that after you do this bit, they'll there'll be something,
Speaker 3: then I'll do it. I'll I'll yes, and your bit.
Speaker 6: So the pizza.
Speaker 3: It's I gave you an opportunity. I gave you a chance.
Speaker 3: I gave you a crossroads. I gave you two options, Jay,
Speaker 3: and you chose the one that you chose one. I
Speaker 3: gave you a chance, Jay, I gave you a shot.
Speaker 3: You could have done it. You could have done your bit.
Speaker 3: I gave you an option in which we could.
Speaker 7: I fucking compromised for you, Jay, and you didn't take it.
Speaker 7: Why we both would have won in that scenario and
Speaker 7: you still said, no, why Jay?
Speaker 3: Why did you do that?
Speaker 5: Yo?
Speaker 3: This is Lyle, this is the GEK. This is me
Speaker 3: and I'm in my house and I'm recording an intro
Speaker 3: to the Therapy Ecko podcast. You just heard what happens
Speaker 3: when you try to prank call into the show. But
Speaker 3: also it's fine. Look, I don't want to detract people
Speaker 3: from prank calling into the show because sometimes I mean,
Speaker 3: why not. Look, you can do anything you want. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not here to tell you what you
Speaker 3: can and can't do, what shows you can and can't
Speaker 3: print call. I'm just showing you an example of someone
Speaker 3: who tried and I'm assuming, according to his metrics, failed
Speaker 3: to do that. You might be more successful than him.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I want you. That's why
Speaker 3: I want it to be open for you to be
Speaker 3: able to try. That's why I'm not saying don't do it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, here's a case study. Okay. Anyway, welcome,
Speaker 3: this is I'm very excited about this episode. Last week
Speaker 3: we had Attorney Tom here. Attorney Tom is the most
Speaker 3: famous catastrophic injury lawyer on TikTok Okay, that means he well,
Speaker 3: he explains better what it means than I do. But
Speaker 3: it means that he doesn't do, you know, just fender
Speaker 3: benders and car accidents. You know, he only does you know,
Speaker 3: real shit, real crazy injuries. So he'll explain that in
Speaker 3: the next little bit. But yeah, he was awesome. We
Speaker 3: had a great time. He was a great guest. We
Speaker 3: talked about all kinds of things, all kinds of calls.
Speaker 3: We spoke with a career arsonist and masturbader. We were
Speaker 3: pitched on the idea of getting rid of all traffic laws,
Speaker 3: and we heard a tale of a very spicy encounter
Speaker 3: underneath a bridge. All great stuff. Tom was awesome. And
Speaker 3: then in the second half we talked about all kinds
Speaker 3: of things. You know, I had a pretty serious call,
Speaker 3: rare serious call with a musician having a bit of
Speaker 3: an identity crisis. So stick around for that. And yeah,
Speaker 3: if you want to call into the show, I stream
Speaker 3: every Monday Wednesday Friday at ten pm Eastern Standard Time
Speaker 3: on twitch dot tv slash lyle Forever, So go check
Speaker 3: that out. But anyway, yeah, this was an awesome episode.
Speaker 3: I'm super excited about it. I hope you guys enjoy it,
Speaker 3: and I love you and hail Satan and God is
Speaker 3: dead and enjoy I'll talk with you soon. So, Tom,
Speaker 3: you were saying, we were chatting earlier and you were
Speaker 3: telling me that you mainly do catastrophic injury. You don't
Speaker 3: do like, you know, car accidents and fender benders, just
Speaker 3: catastrophic accidents.
Speaker 8: You said, yeah, correct, I'm a catastrophic personal injury lawyer.
Speaker 8: What that means is pretty straightforward. I deal with clients
Speaker 8: who are severely injured and just by happenstance. A lot
Speaker 8: of the times people get severely injured or an incident
Speaker 8: such as you know, explosions or eighteen wheeler collisions. The
Speaker 8: biggest case I'm working on right now is a six
Speaker 8: hundred foot Norwegian oil tanker collided with an eighty one
Speaker 8: foot shrimping boat, killing three of the four people on board.
Speaker 8: I represent the only survivor and one of the deceased semen.
Speaker 8: So that's the kind of stuff I do. People do
Speaker 8: call my office with like fender bender, that kind of stuff,
Speaker 8: and we do, you know, like we have like I'll
Speaker 8: take those cases or give them you know, have other
Speaker 8: lawyers work on them, but the cases that I spend
Speaker 8: my time on are catastrophic personal greet cases.
Speaker 3: How do you deal with like, you know, are people
Speaker 3: constantly coming to you and like, you know, severe traumatic distress?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so so it just it just depends if it's
Speaker 8: a lot of the times it's the family who's making
Speaker 8: the first inclination or the first inquiry, the first round
Speaker 8: of vetting too, because somebody's either in the hospital or
Speaker 8: they're just not in the right frame of mind. And
Speaker 8: and to be quite honest, and I don't blame them
Speaker 8: when you when your life gets turned upside down, the
Speaker 8: last thing you wanted you to think about is suing.
Speaker 8: You're thinking about, you know, when can I get healthy again? Right,
Speaker 8: So it's a little bit of everything, and and the
Speaker 8: trauma doesn't go away. You know, if you've ever met
Speaker 8: somebody who's had a life altering injury, it's oftentimes not
Speaker 8: the first five months that are the hardest. It's you know,
Speaker 8: from six months five years later, which is the hardest
Speaker 8: when they're with where there's no pain and they just
Speaker 8: have to adapt to their new reality, whatever that is.
Speaker 8: Whether it's not having an arm or not having a
Speaker 8: leg or whatever. You know, when there's no immediate pain
Speaker 8: where they don't need immediate care, it's the mental the
Speaker 8: pain and suffering, the mental fortitude that they need to
Speaker 8: keep going is often, you know, it's most tested at
Speaker 8: that time.
Speaker 3: Is that something you find yourself having to like testify
Speaker 3: about a lot, is like, you know, share the trauma
Speaker 3: that people have had as far as like you know,
Speaker 3: their mental injuries.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Sure, So I'll give you a great example of that.
Speaker 8: Last September, so a year ago, actually a year ago
Speaker 8: this week, on September thirtieth or thirty first, I was
Speaker 8: part of a trial and eighteen wheeler collision. We got
Speaker 8: a very very good verdict for our client. Twelve million,
Speaker 8: four hundred and fifty thousand dollars verdict for our client.
Speaker 8: She was injured in an eighteen wheeler incident. And if
Speaker 8: you looked at her right now and at the trial,
Speaker 8: you cannot find anything wrong with her. She looks like
Speaker 8: a normal person. She looks totally normal. But what happened
Speaker 8: was when she was hit, the way she was collided,
Speaker 8: or the way she contorted her body and the way
Speaker 8: that you know, she banged up against the car. She
Speaker 8: ended up pinching her trigeminal nerve, which is right in
Speaker 8: your face, and she developed a condition called trigeminal neuralgia. Okay.
Speaker 8: Trigeminal neuralgia is called the suicide disease because it's so
Speaker 8: unbearably painful to live with. Okay. So your trigymnal area
Speaker 8: is like this area right here, okay, and when this
Speaker 8: nerve pinches it, it just excre cruciatingly painful. And it
Speaker 8: can be activated at any time, and it's activated by
Speaker 8: by breathing, by talking, by eating, by brushing your teeth,
Speaker 8: by doing things that you can't avoid. So it's called
Speaker 8: the suicide disease because so many people who have this
Speaker 8: disease kill it. You know, they just cannot handle the
Speaker 8: pain and it never goes away. But from the outside
Speaker 8: they look totally fine. You would never know. But and
Speaker 8: on top of that, it's it's off and on, it's
Speaker 8: hot and cold. She might go a month or maybe
Speaker 8: even two months, probably not two months, but she might
Speaker 8: go a month and not have any anything happened to her.
Speaker 8: She might live a totally normal life, and she might
Speaker 8: be brushing her teeth one day and boom, she's in
Speaker 8: just excruciating pain. She can't do anything for two days,
Speaker 8: she's got to just lay in bed with the lights
Speaker 8: off or stuff like that. So so you know that
Speaker 8: that's a that's purely you know, how do you communicate that?
Speaker 8: How is that quantifiable? You know that's a big part
Speaker 8: of it of the job, you know, and so so
Speaker 8: pain and suffering, you know, mental anguish. You know, even
Speaker 8: even when she's okay, right, you're always living in fear.
Speaker 8: You know, it's not just you're not just suffering those
Speaker 8: times you're in pain, You're you're living cautiously. You're not.
Speaker 8: You know, it takes away your hope, it takes away
Speaker 8: your joy, you know, it's there's there's just a lot.
Speaker 8: So so yeah, I mean you see a lot and
Speaker 8: and you know her story is not unique, you know,
Speaker 8: it's it's very it's very uh you know, it's a
Speaker 8: common thing when you're dealing with somebody's h experienced a
Speaker 8: catastrophic injury.
Speaker 3: M right, So you have to I mean, when you
Speaker 3: look at a person like that and there's nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with them, you have to be the one to sort
Speaker 3: of testify on their behalf of everything.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean we advocate right where there where their lawyer,
Speaker 8: where they're where they're where they're where their advocate. But
Speaker 8: you know, for for medical conditions, right, I'm not a doctor.
Speaker 8: I didn't know what tried gyminal neuralogia was before, you know,
Speaker 8: dealing with this client. So we have to you know,
Speaker 8: we have to get to the bottom of it. We
Speaker 8: have to have medical experts and and people who can
Speaker 8: testify about all that kind of stuff, you know, like
Speaker 8: for that particular trial. I live in Houston, Texas. There's
Speaker 8: a doctor in Houston, Texas who's one of coincidentally, one
Speaker 8: of the world's experts in try gyminal neuralgia. He's the
Speaker 8: one who testified at you know, at that time at
Speaker 8: that trial. So and we knew him before. I mean
Speaker 8: obviously we took a deposition of him and all that stuff.
Speaker 8: So you know, we uh, you know, we just do
Speaker 8: the best we can. We just we add we we
Speaker 8: acquire the knowledge, right, We're not the experts, and then
Speaker 8: it's our job to make the argument. You know, we
Speaker 8: package it all together.
Speaker 3: Man. That is terrified. You know, it's so crazy because
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I talk all the time, but
Speaker 3: the dynamic shifts so much when I'm with someone who
Speaker 3: actually knows things about things, as opposed to me not
Speaker 3: knowing anything about anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What's your name, sir?
Speaker 6: My name is Luke.
Speaker 3: How's life going, Luke?
Speaker 9: That's good?
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in trouble?
Speaker 9: Luke? I've been in trouble a few times.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When's the last time you got in trouble?
Speaker 9: The last time I was in trouble was like a
Speaker 9: year ago.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 9: Luther?
Speaker 6: And then yesterday?
Speaker 1: Oh so a year ago? I? Uh?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: I committed Arson?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Why did you commit arson a year ago? Luke?
Speaker 9: I counted arsen Like I don't know. It was complete
Speaker 9: insurance fraud. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Did it work?
Speaker 2: It actually did work.
Speaker 9: I was compensated three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Had had What did you do with that three hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars that you were coversated after committing insurance fraud?
Speaker 9: I invested it into stocks?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, what did you do yesterday?
Speaker 1: Yesterday? I? Uh? I? I so, I try to live
Speaker 1: no not November every day of my life, and I
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of gave it in.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I mean, how did that get
Speaker 3: you in trouble? Were you under a bridge?
Speaker 9: It got me now, it got me in trouble with
Speaker 9: the lord. I feel like I've said horrible man. Yo, Tom,
Speaker 9: I don't understand what's so funny?
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Luke. I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 8: to pull together your your your your incident seemed very
Speaker 8: very real and Okay. Of course, I'm not your lawyer
Speaker 8: at a note state you're in, and I can't give
Speaker 8: you legal advice. And what you just said was to
Speaker 8: approximately I don't know, give or take five hundred people,
Speaker 8: but if I was your lawyer, i'd probably tell you
Speaker 8: not to admit to getting committing arson and committing insurance
Speaker 8: fraud to the public. You know that's.
Speaker 9: Especially Yeah, So actually I have a question, okay, okay,
Speaker 9: So is this illegal?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 9: How was legal?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 9: How much trouble could I get in for this?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 9: So, per se, I had ten million dollars okay, okay,
Speaker 9: and I paid an appraiser fifteen thousand dollars okay to
Speaker 9: appraise of paying for three million dollars okay, and I
Speaker 9: donated that paying for three million dollars, and I have
Speaker 9: a three million dollar tax break for paying that was
Speaker 9: worth like twenty bucks.
Speaker 8: Well, you could get into a lot of trouble if
Speaker 8: you got that phone.
Speaker 9: What if nobody found out.
Speaker 8: Well, if nobody found out, then you won't get into
Speaker 8: any trouble.
Speaker 9: Okay, So it's like anything, you know, if somebody did
Speaker 9: find out. How many years of jail am I looking at?
Speaker 8: Probably probably just depends on where you did it. Did
Speaker 8: you cross state lines? Is it a federal offense? Who's
Speaker 8: your prosecutor it's gonna be? I mean, it could be
Speaker 8: a wide wide I mean, if you're committing tax fraud
Speaker 8: that which you would be by not by not paying
Speaker 8: your taxes to the federal government, you would go to
Speaker 8: the federal h It'd be a federal crime, which is
Speaker 8: a lot more severe. There's no parole in federal court
Speaker 8: for federal crimes. I mean, you, I don't know exactly
Speaker 8: how many years you would get probably the nature of
Speaker 8: your yeah, but I mean you would definitely go to jail.
Speaker 9: Okay. So I also have another question for you guys. Okay,
Speaker 9: do you ever just like set up a lawn chair
Speaker 9: in the shower and sit in the shower.
Speaker 8: No, my shower is not even big enough for a
Speaker 8: lawn chair. No, Alexy, I want to. I want to
Speaker 8: just as a general, just as a human, as as
Speaker 8: I want to be. Investor, tell me where you invested
Speaker 8: your three hundred thousand dollars from your from your alleged
Speaker 8: which we can't confirm for legal reasons because I want
Speaker 8: to get in trouble from your alleged insurance fraud. Where
Speaker 8: did you invest your three hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 3: I am also.
Speaker 9: Careius well, I invested some of it into Tesla and
Speaker 9: dal Jones s m P five hundred was another one
Speaker 9: I was looking into.
Speaker 8: So a fun guy.
Speaker 9: So but honestly, it's honestly kind of it's honestly kind
Speaker 9: of sucks because the stock prices have been down lately.
Speaker 8: But you said you invested a year ago. Where are
Speaker 8: you when you invested? I mean, are you up? Are
Speaker 8: you up? And how has your money been in the
Speaker 8: market for twelve months?
Speaker 9: For I am down recently?
Speaker 8: Right recently, But I'm talking about overall. I mean, do
Speaker 8: you have a long term stock portfolio or I mean
Speaker 8: what's your D game? You know, would you like to
Speaker 8: retire somewhere someday, would you.
Speaker 9: Well, the main, the main goal is to you know,
Speaker 9: just I don't know. It's something I've always been interested
Speaker 9: in since I was young. And I remember being four
Speaker 9: years old reading about Tesla on the Internet and I
Speaker 9: figured it was a great idea to you know, invest.
Speaker 8: So Tesla went public in like twenty ten. So if
Speaker 8: you're three or four years older, you have fourteen of that.
Speaker 9: Can you prove it?
Speaker 8: Now? I'm using circumstance evidence or not even circumstantial evidence,
Speaker 8: direct evidence. I'm a lawyer, man, Come on, you know
Speaker 8: I got to ask these questions.
Speaker 3: Luke, I have a question, Joe.
Speaker 9: What's that question?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 3: What is your relationship like with God?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 9: Every single day I wake up and I pray to
Speaker 9: the Lord Jesus Christ that he forgives me for all
Speaker 9: my sins, because the Lord knows I'm the sinner.
Speaker 3: What do you think pissed got off more between the
Speaker 3: Arson and the Master?
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think he knows what arson is.
Speaker 3: You don't think God God invented arson. Have you not
Speaker 3: heard the story of the Burning Bush?
Speaker 9: I have, and I faintly remember it though I was
Speaker 9: when I was around four years old. Three, Maybe.
Speaker 8: Just around the time when you started reading about Tesla.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, well Luke, uh you know, good luck.
Speaker 3: Why do you say that, You know, because I.
Speaker 6: You worried about me.
Speaker 3: I'm worried about those around you.
Speaker 9: I hope they're fine.
Speaker 3: I hope they're fine.
Speaker 6: To Luke, it should be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it looks. Stay safe and YouTube you don't
Speaker 3: piss off God again.
Speaker 9: I'll try not too. Man, I'm gonna live for you.
Speaker 9: Go by the way. I like your tie, Thank you.
Speaker 9: I want attorney. I'm not gonna lie. You do need
Speaker 9: your haircut. Your sides are looking a little longer.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 9: But thank you guys for all the advice. Honestly, what
Speaker 9: I would do is I would get a beanie and
Speaker 9: I would pull it down over your eyebrows. Did a
Speaker 9: baggy pair of pants and a flannel and only button
Speaker 9: the top button. I think it would complete the look.
Speaker 9: And as for you, geta You look amazing today, man,
Speaker 9: keep doing what you're doing. Thanks, Yeah for sure? All right,
Speaker 9: all right, you guys have a great day.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: Hi, do you think water's wet?
Speaker 3: Do I think water is wet? Yes?
Speaker 8: But why.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess Okay, So if something, if something gets
Speaker 3: water on it, then it becomes wet.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 3: And if I get lile on something, is that thing liled?
Speaker 3: But then would I be lyled if I'm made of lyle?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so, because you don't like you know,
Speaker 8: you're solid? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Water being wet is a temporary state. My argument would
Speaker 8: be that anything that is what we can see, what
Speaker 8: we conceive of as wet permanently would be liquid.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 8: Liquids can't be wet. Wet is a temporary condition when
Speaker 8: something that is solid or semi solid becomes drenched in liquid,
Speaker 8: presumably water. Yes, So my argument would be water is
Speaker 8: not wet. But if you pour water on, you know, lyle,
Speaker 8: then lyle would be wet butle. But water itself is
Speaker 8: not wet.
Speaker 3: Wait, Tom, if you pour water on water, it does
Speaker 3: it become wet?
Speaker 8: No, it doesn't, because you would. It's a liquid, so
Speaker 8: it just remains in its permanent state of being a liquid.
Speaker 8: It does not get anything more wet.
Speaker 3: What if you freeze it and it becomes ice, and
Speaker 3: you dip the ice in water.
Speaker 8: Well, while the ice is solid, it can be wet,
Speaker 8: but wow, but then as it transitions into liquid. It
Speaker 8: doesn't become wet, it just becomes liquid.
Speaker 1: Call from Alex.
Speaker 14: Tack, Alex, how you doing?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm doing all right, Alex.
Speaker 14: So I got into some legal trouble with my girlfriend
Speaker 14: one night and it ended up costing me three hundred
Speaker 14: and seventy five dollars. So I actually went down to
Speaker 14: a boat launch and it was probably just after dusk,
Speaker 14: and uh, I was sitting down with her, you know,
Speaker 14: doing what you do, and then suddenly this fog light
Speaker 14: or spotlight comes on my truck and suddenly someone's banging
Speaker 14: on my window saying get out, get out, and so
Speaker 14: I thought it was some like homeless people underneath the bridge,
Speaker 14: and suddenly he just keeps going. So they all right,
Speaker 14: get onto the blanket in the back and hide. I'll
Speaker 14: go out and deal with it. Well, I get out,
Speaker 14: and then he's like turn around, So apparently I still
Speaker 14: do this day.
Speaker 6: Do not know.
Speaker 14: I think he was a game warden, but I'm really
Speaker 14: not sure. But I basically got a three hundred and
Speaker 14: seventy five ticket for getting a blowjob under a bridge,
Speaker 14: and I went to contest it in court and the
Speaker 14: joe only reduced it by half, even though I had
Speaker 14: a clean record. I was very confused.
Speaker 8: What state are you? And Alex.
Speaker 6: Washington?
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, Alex, first of all, you know, I'm not
Speaker 8: a Washington attorney. This is not legal advice, and your
Speaker 8: matter's already over, so that shouldn't matter. But a lot
Speaker 8: of states do have indecent exposure or sex act in
Speaker 8: public violations such as that. And you know, it's very
Speaker 8: possible or probable that that ticket the game warden or
Speaker 8: officer wrote few is within their you know, is within
Speaker 8: their boundaries or within their limits, you know. And I'm
Speaker 8: sorry that that happened. And the judge actually is pretty
Speaker 8: cool cutting the fee in half. I think, so what
Speaker 8: so I mean, you know, what was it? Three seventy
Speaker 8: five cut cut by two? So that's I don't know,
Speaker 8: I'm pretty bad at math. That's one hundred and eighty
Speaker 8: bucks give or take one hundred yeah, eighty seven bucks
Speaker 8: around there. Yeah, yeah, sorry that happened.
Speaker 6: But nothing.
Speaker 14: That's the thing is like he didn't see anything. So
Speaker 14: it's like I just got a ticket for I guess
Speaker 14: being down there beyond dusk.
Speaker 8: But well, you can take you know, you could take
Speaker 8: some circumstantial evidence.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I'm sure if you were in a closed car, your
Speaker 8: windows were all foggy. You guys were probably in the
Speaker 8: back seat. You know how long it took for you
Speaker 8: to get out of the car, you know, And to
Speaker 8: be quite honest, you even admitted that you were getting
Speaker 8: a blowjob, you know here, so you know, he might
Speaker 8: have seen something or or you know, heard some thing,
Speaker 8: got inferred or gave him, you know, enough evidence to
Speaker 8: write you that ticket. And it sounds like when you
Speaker 8: went to court you pled guilty. If that's if your
Speaker 8: ticket got reduced, so you didn't fight it, would you
Speaker 8: you had the right to.
Speaker 5: But I did.
Speaker 14: I did fight it.
Speaker 8: Oh you did fight it. So you went to.
Speaker 14: Tryal Yeah, I did. I went down there because he
Speaker 14: wrote me a ticket for like being down there past dusk.
Speaker 14: And so when you pull into the boat launch and
Speaker 14: I went back the next day, and all the signs
Speaker 14: are covered completely with sticker bushes, so you couldn't see
Speaker 14: them anyway, So you couldn't read the signs that said
Speaker 14: you couldn't be there. I mean, I believe there's so
Speaker 14: long I know that you can't be there, But still
Speaker 14: in ye eyes, right, well, technically you can't see the sign.
Speaker 14: So I showed the pictures to the judge. She's like,
Speaker 14: all right, reduced by half. I was like, okay, well whatever,
Speaker 14: I have a clean record. Bit that's fine. So I
Speaker 14: went back the next day after the trial and all
Speaker 14: the strict buses were gone.
Speaker 8: So having a sign is not outcome determinative, right, So
Speaker 8: I mean, like, you know, I could go out into
Speaker 8: you know, I don't know, like just a random street.
Speaker 8: I could get in my car and go into parking
Speaker 8: a random street or a random parking lot, and you
Speaker 8: know that there's there doesn't need to be a sign
Speaker 8: that says, you know, hey, by the way, no blow
Speaker 8: jobs in this parking lot past nine pm or at all. Right,
Speaker 8: So so I would just and I'm just guessing right
Speaker 8: that the sign is not outcome determinative of what was happening.
Speaker 8: It was more just that what like you for for
Speaker 8: all you know, you you could have been in your
Speaker 8: own driveway doing that and still got in that same
Speaker 8: ticket just because you were in public, in the public view,
Speaker 8: and there is that you know, it's just an indecent
Speaker 8: indecency argument.
Speaker 6: I gotcha.
Speaker 14: So my next question is what is your if let's
Speaker 14: say you get a ticket of any sort. What is
Speaker 14: the best things to say to the judge when you
Speaker 14: go to fight it.
Speaker 8: Well, it just depends right on how much evidence they have.
Speaker 8: Let me, let's back up a little bit. The best
Speaker 8: The best thing you can do is when you are
Speaker 8: getting a ticket, the second that you were getting pulled
Speaker 8: over for anything, you need to shut the fuck up
Speaker 8: it is. That is rule number one. The officer comes
Speaker 8: to your window, they say, pull out your ID. You
Speaker 8: pull out your ID because you have to identify yourself. Again,
Speaker 8: I'm a Texas lawyer. I assume that's true for every state.
Speaker 8: You know, if you don't identify yourself, you're probably gonna
Speaker 8: get in trouble. I feel safe saying that that's pretty unanimous.
Speaker 8: Then they're gonna ask you a bunch of questions. They're
Speaker 8: gonna try to get under your skin. You're gonna say, officer,
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about my day, officer, you know, Or hey, hey,
Speaker 8: hey Tom, do you know why I pulled you over? No, officer,
Speaker 8: I don't know why you pulled me over, Nor am
Speaker 8: I gonna guess. I'm not gonna give you any evidence.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna give you anything. I want you to
Speaker 8: tell me everything. I'm not gonna be talking about my day.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna tell you who I'm with respectfully. Of
Speaker 8: course you don't need to be a dick to them,
Speaker 8: but you know, you just say officer respectfully. Uh, just
Speaker 8: just tell me what you need from me and if
Speaker 8: I'm free to go, great, if not. So that that's
Speaker 8: how you can set yourself up best, because a lot
Speaker 8: of times police officers will pull you over for something
Speaker 8: very minor and then end up walking away with something
Speaker 8: much worse because you just were running your damn mouth,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 8: And police officers quite frankly, deal with a lot of people,
Speaker 8: and if you're respectful and you're quiet it, they'll forget
Speaker 8: you by the time the court date comes. You know,
Speaker 8: the court date's not going to be for months, so
Speaker 8: if you're respectful and quiet, you don't. But but they
Speaker 8: go out of their way to remember the people who
Speaker 8: cause them trouble, right, and they'll make sure they show
Speaker 8: up to court for them. So so that's how you
Speaker 8: set the stage correctly. And then when you go in
Speaker 8: front of the judge, you know it's just gonna depend
Speaker 8: you know, how they might have crystal clear evidence that
Speaker 8: you're guilty. They might not, but it's just being respectful
Speaker 8: and doing all that stuff. And if you can, I
Speaker 8: always recommend hiring a lawyer. I mean, lawyers are there
Speaker 8: to navigate all all of that. You know that that
Speaker 8: that the legal process. So that's kind of my tips.
Speaker 8: There's no cure, all right, there's no magic way to
Speaker 8: get out of every ticket. If there was, I would
Speaker 8: let you know. But you know, it's just about setting
Speaker 8: yourself out, Yeah, setting yourself up for the most probable
Speaker 8: chance of success.
Speaker 14: It's very good advice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are you going to do now?
Speaker 14: What am I going to do now? I guess not
Speaker 14: get blow jobs underneath the bridge anymore, that's the first thing.
Speaker 3: But uh, there's thats one places you can get blow jobs, Alex.
Speaker 8: Well, you won't get a ticket.
Speaker 3: Where you won't get a ticket where you can get
Speaker 3: one safely, safely.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, I know a lot of spots around here.
Speaker 6: Don't worry.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're not worried about you at all, Alex.
Speaker 8: Just just for the for the listeners at home who
Speaker 8: might be concerned that under a bridge is the only
Speaker 8: place where you can get a blow job. There are
Speaker 8: other there are other avenues there are other places.
Speaker 3: This is why we do This is why we have
Speaker 3: conversations like this to let and important information such as
Speaker 3: that into the open.
Speaker 14: Yes, people need this cheaper to learn from other's mistakes.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much for calling in, Alex. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, sharing your extra paids and you know, look
Speaker 3: stay safe out that right, and you know write down
Speaker 3: a list of five other places so that you have
Speaker 3: it on hand when you need a place to go
Speaker 3: to get a blowjob. That's not a bridge ten for
Speaker 3: Thank you sir, Take care Alex.
Speaker 14: A y all a good night.
Speaker 3: Can fire be on fire?
Speaker 8: But what is? But but you wouldn't fire is not
Speaker 8: a property?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 8: I mean something can be wet? Oh, I guess something
Speaker 8: can be on fire? Right, something can be burning?
Speaker 3: Can fire burn be? Can fire be burning?
Speaker 8: Of course? Well? But isn't that? But but what is
Speaker 8: it burning? That's the thing is fire is a temporary condition.
Speaker 8: Water can stay water forever with no but fire needs
Speaker 8: energy to consume, right, It's getting that energy from somewhere,
Speaker 8: whether that's wood or propane or whatever. Fire is not
Speaker 8: the natural state. Water is a natural state as a liquid.
Speaker 8: And then.
Speaker 3: Can water burn?
Speaker 8: I mean in theory, right, water boils and it evaporates.
Speaker 8: Is lava wet? What about an? What about that's kind
Speaker 8: of an in between? Is lava wet?
Speaker 3: I thought lava was like melted, What the hell is lava?
Speaker 8: But lava is a liquid, right, I mean just floating
Speaker 8: around in the volcano. But it's wet. But is it wet?
Speaker 8: But it's not. It wouldn't be wet under that definition
Speaker 8: because it's a liquid. But could lava get if I
Speaker 8: poured lava on the table? Is the table wet? But
Speaker 8: also it's gonna catch on fire because the lava is
Speaker 8: the lava is gonna burn it.
Speaker 3: I do like that quote, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6: Is this Lyle?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Gek fucking a. I'm watching the stream right now and
Speaker 4: it's not lined up with what's happening on my phone.
Speaker 4: So this is very interesting.
Speaker 12: Wow.
Speaker 4: I need to leave this area of the computer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know how to. I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I want you to your computer, and I want you
Speaker 3: to go somewhere far away, and I want you to
Speaker 3: pretend like you're on a private phone conversation with a
Speaker 3: gecko and an attorney who does pol advice and is
Speaker 3: not your attorney.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: But usually is a therapist.
Speaker 4: This is this is surreal.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something, Scott. Yeah, have you ever
Speaker 3: been in trouble?
Speaker 4: Oh god, my whole life has been nothing but trouble,
Speaker 4: nothing but trouble. When I was I don't know sixteen,
Speaker 4: pulled over driving a car with a license and I
Speaker 4: hadn't even taken the test at that point, I was
Speaker 4: just fucking the squirrel who had a car, and that
Speaker 4: just led to a slew of issues for years to come.
Speaker 6: But that's okay.
Speaker 4: You know, the government exists for some reasons. Do I
Speaker 4: agree or do we agree?
Speaker 2: Why it exists?
Speaker 4: And what they do to us for the things that
Speaker 4: we do on the road or at home and shit
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Who cares?
Speaker 4: It's beyond us the law, The law and exists, and
Speaker 4: I try to live my life as if it's just
Speaker 4: not there. How about you?
Speaker 8: So you do? But but then you do care, right,
Speaker 8: And you can't say that, oh, because if you live
Speaker 8: your life the laws don't exist. They you you get
Speaker 8: consequences like getting pulled over when you don't have a
Speaker 8: license in it and the repercussions.
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, all of those repercussions I've been dealing
Speaker 4: with for years Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: What's your what's your what's your theoretical stance on governance?
Speaker 8: You know, what is what is the perfect form of government?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think we can all agree, no
Speaker 4: matter who we are, that there has to be some
Speaker 4: general senses of how to act amongst each other. But
Speaker 4: it is not in my nature to really and invoke
Speaker 4: my life onto anybody else's. Like, I don't think. I
Speaker 4: think government should be minimalistic, and I think democracy has
Speaker 4: taken a slight dive in the last hundred years. And
Speaker 4: I just want everyone to be happy, no matter what
Speaker 4: they're doing. I want I want nobody to impede on
Speaker 4: their happiness, and I want us all to just live cohesively.
Speaker 4: But do you know what makes go ahead?
Speaker 8: But what happens when they're a bad actor? You can't
Speaker 8: you can't just like that sounds like a perfect world. No, no, no, nogue.
Speaker 8: On some of these rights, how how do you need
Speaker 8: somebody to step in and be the enforcer of laws?
Speaker 4: Well, and I know this is probably going to catch
Speaker 4: some flack, but I chair you know, I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 4: I'll be twenty eight in January. I'm a younger dude,
Speaker 4: But and I was not around for the times when
Speaker 4: pretty much everyone who was a man carried a gun,
Speaker 4: and lawmen were far into in between, and if you
Speaker 4: had an issue with somebody that really demanded an action,
Speaker 4: you would take care of it yourself. I feel like
Speaker 4: society as a whole has diverted towards a world where
Speaker 4: we rely too much or too heavily on somebody who
Speaker 4: was too far away to take action for us.
Speaker 8: What does that mean, rely on yourself? I mean, cann't
Speaker 8: you use that as an excuse for everything. Don't you
Speaker 8: need a neutral arbitrator. I've never seen an incident where
Speaker 8: both parts where one party says they were completely at fault.
Speaker 8: You know what happens if two people get into a fight.
Speaker 8: One person crabs the other and it was really the
Speaker 8: you know, it was really the guy who who shots fault,
Speaker 8: you know. But but then he's just gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 8: I was just defending myself or whatever. You just you're
Speaker 8: leading there. There needs to be a big brother, big
Speaker 8: sister in some capacity, surely. I mean, if you really
Speaker 8: you rely on everybody's word and goodness, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, you know, and that's why I
Speaker 4: say I relish the days that are long pass where
Speaker 4: you know the law exists, but it didn't impede on
Speaker 4: your daily life as heavily as it does today. Obviously,
Speaker 4: if you kill somebody out of just then you should
Speaker 4: be taken to justice, and justice should be sure, should
Speaker 4: be but.
Speaker 3: Life go ahead? What what law? What if you could
Speaker 3: get rid of any laws? What laws would you get
Speaker 3: rid of?
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, uh, pretty much every traffic law. Being able
Speaker 4: to distill your own whiskey. I'm literally looking at barrels
Speaker 4: of whiskey.
Speaker 3: I you said you would get rid of all traffic laws.
Speaker 2: Drink I think.
Speaker 4: I think speeding is as stupid and you should be
Speaker 4: able to go as fast as you want. We're all
Speaker 4: adults here. If you go too fast and you kill yourself,
Speaker 4: natural selection is going to go ahead and take course,
Speaker 4: and looking.
Speaker 8: At you kill somebody else.
Speaker 4: Honestly, again, natural selection will take hold and either you're
Speaker 4: gonna die, you're.
Speaker 8: For everybody you could be. I could be a PhD
Speaker 8: smartest guy in the world driving safely. Yeah, goes one
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty miles per hour, swerves, flies over the
Speaker 8: medianning kills me. That's not a natural selection.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: I've been I've been driving eighty miles an hour in
Speaker 4: the fast plane after I just sotle the grammar DMP
Speaker 4: to some guys, happy as can be that I had
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars in my wallet, smoking a joint with
Speaker 4: a girl next to me, and then here comes some
Speaker 4: headlights toward me in my lane that I had to
Speaker 4: casually swerve to miss. And you know what, the thirty
Speaker 4: plus cops on the other side of the highway chasing
Speaker 4: the guy who was on my side of the highway.
Speaker 4: They weren't going to do dick for me if he
Speaker 4: hit me, you know what I mean? Like, I took
Speaker 4: care of that situation the.
Speaker 2: Same way anyone else should you.
Speaker 4: If you were too lazy to say your own life,
Speaker 4: well then I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: But wouldn't you agree that the more instances there were,
Speaker 8: the more statistically probable, Like like if you relate that
Speaker 8: if you replayed that same situation one hundred times, you
Speaker 8: might have gotten to an accident five percent of god,
Speaker 8: maybe ten percent of the time.
Speaker 4: I think I probably would have gone through an accident
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 8: That's great, m.
Speaker 3: Scott, what's your.
Speaker 4: Fun I think yield signs are more effective I've lived
Speaker 4: in I live in Texas and their neighborhoods around here
Speaker 4: where you come to a four way stop and it's
Speaker 4: a yield instead of a stop. So if you don't
Speaker 4: see anybody and you can, you're free to go ahead
Speaker 4: and cruise on through that fourway. But if you do
Speaker 4: what is necessary, you stop and let the person left
Speaker 4: you go first.
Speaker 8: Would you would you agree that not all people have
Speaker 8: the same driving abilities?
Speaker 4: Oh God, yes, and that's and and then you agree?
Speaker 8: Wouldn't you agree that you know they're they're they're that
Speaker 8: at some level? Mm hmm, everybody deserves the ability to drive,
Speaker 8: to transport themselves, to conduct their daily freedoms.
Speaker 4: Okay, well yes and no. And the no is probably
Speaker 4: the hardest part, because I feel like that freedom kind
Speaker 4: of gets muted at a certain age. Would you agree?
Speaker 4: I feel like some people at a certain age can drive.
Speaker 4: But where I'm from, I don't think you have to
Speaker 4: take your driving test for every lie. I don't think
Speaker 4: you have to take your driving test ever again. Once
Speaker 4: you take it, you just you're good, and you just
Speaker 4: get it renewed and then that's it. But there are
Speaker 4: some older people out there who want to rely on
Speaker 4: themselves to do the things they need to do in life,
Speaker 4: but they might not be the best drivers, and they
Speaker 4: might be a little stubborn about it, and that is rough,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think we've all seen the episode
Speaker 4: of Futurama where they put all the old people on
Speaker 4: a planet because at a certain point, you just get
Speaker 4: to be a burden. And I want to go eighty
Speaker 4: miles an hour on the highway and I don't want
Speaker 4: to be impeded by the people going sixty five on
Speaker 4: the fast Land.
Speaker 8: But you're kind of your argument doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 8: I you know, somebody with your stance on no driving
Speaker 8: laws should say, yeah, why everybody should be able to drive?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: I mean, how do you make.
Speaker 4: I guess I spoke to to audaciously when I said
Speaker 4: no driving laws. I mean, I feel like there's a
Speaker 4: there's a okay, okay, well if I if there are
Speaker 4: no driving laws, nobody would go drive because the only
Speaker 4: thing that you and I rely on every day when
Speaker 4: we go out and drive is the fact that those
Speaker 4: yellow fucking stripes in the road are the only thing
Speaker 4: keeping us alive, because if I ripes, I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 4: And that's that. So there's a there's a certain moral
Speaker 4: ethical code on the road amongst all of us that
Speaker 4: this is how we drive, and if somebody's going faster,
Speaker 4: you get out of the way, or if there's an
Speaker 4: emergency vehicle come in, you pull over.
Speaker 6: You know, just these things that keep society flowing.
Speaker 4: But I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: All these towns, I'm apologetic about this, but all of
Speaker 2: these talents around America that just that just butcher people
Speaker 2: for going a little too fast and just raking all
Speaker 2: this money unethically.
Speaker 11: I think it's wrong.
Speaker 8: But but wouldn't you agree that if millions of people
Speaker 8: are on the road today, you need some form of
Speaker 8: cohesive structure because if you leave everybody just to just
Speaker 8: to go Audubond style in Audubon.
Speaker 4: But but if you go at the statistics for the Audubon,
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're they're very opaque. I mean, nobody
Speaker 4: killing themselves.
Speaker 8: They're right, I get it right there. But but there
Speaker 8: are lanes, you know, there's etiquette, there's I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to be road warrior. I just want no
Speaker 4: tickets pretty much. Listen, I feel like this is taking
Speaker 4: away from the whole point of what I called the
Speaker 4: day like, I feel like this is a relish moment
Speaker 4: that I need to take in, and you guys are
Speaker 4: so important. Go ahead, what happened?
Speaker 3: I want to hear you say that that.
Speaker 4: Exists for a reason.
Speaker 3: Can you say that lanes? That's important to have lanes?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, If we didn't have lanes, we'd be all over
Speaker 4: the place. Listen, you're getting too caught up on the fact.
Speaker 4: I don't want traffic blogs. I just don't want and
Speaker 4: find your ass for going a little too fast.
Speaker 3: What state do you live in so that I know there,
Speaker 3: I'll just walk.
Speaker 4: I live in Texas, where we can go eighty miles
Speaker 4: an hour on some roads, and if no one's around,
Speaker 4: you can just go ninety and it's totally okay because
Speaker 4: you're not hurting anybody, and you don't want to hurt anybody.
Speaker 4: You just want to get through this massive state that's
Speaker 4: three times the size of yours a little bit faster.
Speaker 4: When I go to Colorado to buy weed where it's
Speaker 4: legal to bring home here where it's not, I have
Speaker 4: to obey that the traffic laws. Coming back to I
Speaker 4: don't want to get pulled over again, and I don't
Speaker 4: want to have to pay new Mexico a bunch of
Speaker 4: fucking money just for going a little too fast. We're
Speaker 4: just ten miles up the road. It was eighty miles
Speaker 4: an hour, and it would have been leading.
Speaker 3: Because it's legal to buy a weed in Colorado, it's
Speaker 3: not legal to take that weed into Texas.
Speaker 4: Nope, not at all.
Speaker 3: And you're upset that you can't break the law.
Speaker 4: I feel like prohibition, you know, needs to end. And
Speaker 4: that's okay. I'm not again. I don't look at the
Speaker 4: law as anything that really affects my daily life. I
Speaker 4: just kind of live my life the best I can,
Speaker 4: treat people the best I can.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 7: You opened the call by saying that on a daily basis,
Speaker 7: the laws affect your life.
Speaker 4: Uh. You asked me if I had ever been in trouble.
Speaker 4: I said that. I. I mean I trouble follows me everywhere.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 4: I just whatever, you deal with it, like you deal
Speaker 4: with anything, you you learn from it and then you
Speaker 4: try to be wiser and move forward and not do
Speaker 4: that again. But that's okay, you know, if you if
Speaker 4: you if none of us had ever been in trouble,
Speaker 4: I feel like none of us ever really would have
Speaker 4: learned anything substantial.
Speaker 3: You know what a beautiful lesson for Oh come.
Speaker 4: On, I mean, what what what?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 4: What troubles have you gone in where you were? Just like, man,
Speaker 4: that was a lot of work for from not a
Speaker 4: lot of reward and a lot of hassle. I should
Speaker 4: probably just not do that again. I mean, I feel
Speaker 4: like we all do that every day.
Speaker 3: What'd you say? Your name was my name of Adam?
Speaker 4: First man?
Speaker 3: Well Adam, thank you for for calling in this informative
Speaker 3: what no, what do you what do you mean?
Speaker 9: Dang?
Speaker 3: We got this was a we did a we got
Speaker 3: oh fift we got a good fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Wow, that just I mean, you know the old thing.
Speaker 4: Time flies and they're having fun.
Speaker 3: I love you, Scott. I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I love the hell out of you, and
Speaker 4: I love everyone who's listening. And again I'm not a
Speaker 4: bad person. I just wanted to be able to go faster.
Speaker 4: So you have a really great night. Oh wait before
Speaker 4: you go, before you go, hey, can I ask you something, Lyle?
Speaker 4: How are you doing today?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm doing?
Speaker 11: All right?
Speaker 13: That's good.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that you enter it the same
Speaker 4: way every time. Now, I get the whole shield this time.
Speaker 4: That's okay. So you have a good night, man, Thank
Speaker 4: you you too later, I love you goodbye.
Speaker 8: That was interesting.
Speaker 3: So Tom, what do you think should we should it
Speaker 3: be legal to kill people with your car?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: Maddie to accept press one.
Speaker 10: Maddie, Oh my god, Hello, hello Maddie.
Speaker 3: How are you hi?
Speaker 6: O good?
Speaker 10: I'm really happy to say answered.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy that I that you called.
Speaker 12: Thank you?
Speaker 10: Oh my good. I see people saying my name in
Speaker 10: the chat. I did actually have a legal problem, I guess.
Speaker 10: And I don't want to go with like, I don't
Speaker 10: want to try to make the conversation super deep. But
Speaker 10: I was just wondering because I used to work for
Speaker 10: this restaurant or whatever, like a local one, and oh wait,
Speaker 10: am I allotted to cut? Like is that okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah you can cuss?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 10: Well, they were like really rude to me, like they
Speaker 10: were just assholes, Like I they were h tech. I'm eighteen.
Speaker 10: But I was just wondering, is can I actually get
Speaker 10: into legal trouble for hacking their Instagram account and turning
Speaker 10: it into making the Stallion Shanny count.
Speaker 3: Yes, hacking Who's Instagram account? You're the companies or your coworker,
Speaker 3: the restaurants listen.
Speaker 8: I don't know what state you're in. And this isn't
Speaker 8: legal advice. I have to tell you that every time,
Speaker 8: everybody that every time you can get in trouble for
Speaker 8: hacking anybody's Instagram account that's not your own. And yes,
Speaker 8: even if.
Speaker 10: It's just like like how could they catch me? Though,
Speaker 10: like is it really that big of a deal.
Speaker 8: I mean, everybody says how can they catch me? Until
Speaker 8: they get caught? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe maybe somebody from the restaurants watching a stream
Speaker 8: involving a therapy gecko and they recognize your voice and
Speaker 8: then when the incident happens, they know who it was.
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know, but I think like they
Speaker 10: deserve it morally.
Speaker 3: Stallion already has an Instagram.
Speaker 8: But that's a great lile. This is a great this
Speaker 8: is a great question that you might need to chime
Speaker 8: in on. Moral does not always mean legal. There are
Speaker 8: there are some things that are legal, but they might
Speaker 8: very well be a moral and there are a lot
Speaker 8: of historical examples of that. Reality is is right now?
Speaker 8: You know it is legal or illegal? I should say
Speaker 8: for you to pursue your your desire to change hack
Speaker 8: into an Instagram account that does not belong to you.
Speaker 10: Change what I want to really call it un hacking,
Speaker 10: Like it's not really hacking, it's just you, like you
Speaker 10: put if they don't have to affect their authentic authentification
Speaker 10: or whatever, you can just like put in a different
Speaker 10: email and then change the passwords. Is what some person
Speaker 10: told me. I asked somebody to help me with it.
Speaker 3: Why does it matter if it's not hacking, you're still
Speaker 3: you're achieving the same ends.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well I guess Yeah, why why are you mad
Speaker 10: at these people?
Speaker 6: Again?
Speaker 10: Well, I just like I had like I don't know,
Speaker 10: I just really didn't I don't know, I don't want
Speaker 10: to get too deep into it, but uh, there was
Speaker 10: like definitely like they were just assholes. Like I don't know,
Speaker 10: there's so much those months, but there was like inappropriate
Speaker 10: touching from the boss who was like fifty and I
Speaker 10: just like I just have always just like hated them.
Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, okay, if that's true, I think you
Speaker 8: need to go talk to a local employment lawyer. Right. So,
Speaker 8: of course bosses cannot take advantage of their employees or
Speaker 8: touch them inappropriately. That's completely outrageous and creates a bad
Speaker 8: work environment. And I'm not I'm just switching gears. Just
Speaker 8: for a little side note. It is possible for there
Speaker 8: to be bad work environments that aren't illegal per se.
Speaker 8: Like just it's part of life. I deal with jerks
Speaker 8: every day, you know, you know, I you know that's different.
Speaker 8: But if you are legitimately sexually harassed, that is beyond
Speaker 8: just being a bad workplace, that is a unsafe, un
Speaker 8: you know, illegal manner. And you know, if your trust me,
Speaker 8: your revenge would be much better suit did in the
Speaker 8: form of a legal action. And the people who handle
Speaker 8: those type of issues are employment lawyers. So I would
Speaker 8: go onto Google. I would just google employment lawyer. Google
Speaker 8: will match you to wherever you know, state or city
Speaker 8: you're in and just go talk to them. Usually it's
Speaker 8: free consultation and they'll tell you whether or not it's legit,
Speaker 8: and hopefully whoever did that to you is held accountable,
Speaker 8: the restaurants held accountable for having a uh environment where
Speaker 8: that's allowed or tolerated. But but, but I would advise
Speaker 8: strongly against the original game plan of hacking their accounts.
Speaker 8: That is the wrong way to go about me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, I'm.
Speaker 8: Going to write that down employee lawyers, employment lawyer.
Speaker 5: Yes right.
Speaker 3: Also, you know, look it's more effective too, because the
Speaker 3: heck they're just going to change back their Instagram. You know,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know, achieve any real change or
Speaker 3: get back on them in any sort of meaningful way
Speaker 3: that doesn't also bite back at you.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. I was just like annoyed, and you
Speaker 10: feel like I could actually do anything about it, just
Speaker 10: wanted to, I guess, mess with them. So yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well Maddie, Uh look, I hope that you I
Speaker 3: hope that you're able to solve this in a you know,
Speaker 3: through the system, in a meaningful way, as opposed to
Speaker 3: creating another Megan thee Stallion Instagram account.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, absolutely.
Speaker 3: You take care, Mattie, Thank you for calling in you too.
Speaker 3: Where do you think we go when we die? Tom?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: All I know is I want to be shot off
Speaker 8: in space.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 8: Yes, hopefully Elon Musk will have some sort of product
Speaker 8: by that time.
Speaker 3: Get some space attorneys. Yeah, hey, Lyle again not on
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Speaker 1: Home from Riley to accept Press.
Speaker 15: One, Riley, Riley, Riley, Riley.
Speaker 3: Hello, Briley, are you watching the stream right now?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can you do a favor?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 3: What can you turn the stream off?
Speaker 11: Yeah? It is off.
Speaker 9: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: What are you doing right now?
Speaker 11: Sitting here drinking beer?
Speaker 3: Have you ever lied? Riley?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Definitely about what That's where it gets complicated.
Speaker 3: Why is it complicated?
Speaker 11: Well, let's just say most of my entire life has
Speaker 11: been a lie.
Speaker 3: How has most of your entire life been a lie?
Speaker 11: All right? Well, kind of one of I'm kind of
Speaker 11: trams to begin with, Okay, but I have to hide
Speaker 11: it so I can do my job. Really, yeah, I
Speaker 11: had to for a long time, and I'm known for
Speaker 11: a long time. That's actually what I called you because
Speaker 11: my last therapist actually ended up taking our own life,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, Well, I do have to tell you
Speaker 3: I am not a real therapist or in any way,
Speaker 3: shape or form even remotely qualified to be a therapist
Speaker 3: or even give advice or do anything of any kind
Speaker 3: in any of that sense.
Speaker 11: However, I know that I just want to have a
Speaker 11: conversation with somebody I can actually talk to about it.
Speaker 3: Well, what's your job?
Speaker 11: Well, I'm a musician for a living.
Speaker 3: Why why why why can't you be openly trans as a.
Speaker 11: Musician Because in the South things are not still that great.
Speaker 3: Like in the like specifically in the music scene.
Speaker 11: That you're in pretty much, yeah, in the areas like
Speaker 11: unless you're like a lot of the money if you're not,
Speaker 11: like you know, making a bunch of money off your
Speaker 11: own music is going through the cover circuit, you know,
Speaker 11: where you're going to play at bars and restaurants and
Speaker 11: stuff like that. And in certain areas in the country
Speaker 11: still there's there's still a lot of people that you know,
Speaker 11: I've heard it before where you know, we love your
Speaker 11: music but sound great, but people just wouldn't be comfortable
Speaker 11: with someone like you. Here. You go back three months later,
Speaker 11: not looking that way anymore, and then foom, you get
Speaker 11: the job.
Speaker 3: Where Texas are you?
Speaker 11: Well, not in Texas, but a little more towards the east.
Speaker 3: Did you ever say where you were.
Speaker 11: No I'm not really going to give my exact state.
Speaker 3: Sure you don't have to. Is there a reason why
Speaker 3: you don't want to move and go somewhere else?
Speaker 11: Money? I've I've ended up homeless before, I've lived out
Speaker 11: of my cards. Some of the worst experiences ever, like
Speaker 11: to wake up freaking you know, in ninety five degree car?
Speaker 3: Do you live? Do you live with the parents?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 11: No, I live on my own. I'm able to make
Speaker 11: my own I was making I was able to make
Speaker 11: a pretty good living before all the craziness of the world.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It's like, could you not could you not find a
Speaker 3: place in I mean you don't it? Could you not
Speaker 3: find a place like? I mean, like you don't have
Speaker 3: to move to like New York City to find to
Speaker 3: find a place where like you could feel comfortable being
Speaker 3: open to trans but like, could you find a place
Speaker 3: that is less hostile to trans people that you could
Speaker 3: afford to live in that is similarly priced? Is where
Speaker 3: you currently live?
Speaker 11: Where it's like still somewhere Well? That's another thing is
Speaker 11: like in this industry, it's all networking. So if you
Speaker 11: don't know anybody, you go somewhere completely new, you have
Speaker 11: to start from the ground up. Again, you're throwing years
Speaker 11: of you know, networking out the window, so I like,
Speaker 11: I'm a mile away.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Do you mainly make your money from from bar and restaurants.
Speaker 11: Most of it? Yeah, the primary bulk.
Speaker 3: Are you do you do any independent music or are
Speaker 3: you mainly just to cover cover music.
Speaker 11: Not do independent music too?
Speaker 5: How deep?
Speaker 11: It's kind of like psychedelic blues rock wi jazz influenced.
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with like the very music scenes or anything,
Speaker 3: but I mean I feel like you could find I mean,
Speaker 3: are you adverse to, like it's so fucking different with
Speaker 3: the fucking pandemic, but like, are you adverse to trying
Speaker 3: to find a city that has like a solid scene
Speaker 3: for your genre that is, you know, more welcoming of
Speaker 3: you know, and and progressive area.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 11: Absolutely, But that's where like I've met a few people
Speaker 11: that you know, are in some pretty you know, big
Speaker 11: internationally touring bands, and they're always telling me, like, move
Speaker 11: to New York, And I'm like, I would love that
Speaker 11: because Los Angeles is where more of the you know,
Speaker 11: let's people go there to play, they go there and
Speaker 11: do more of the technical side of things, like movies,
Speaker 11: and production and stuff like that. In New York's where
Speaker 11: a lot of musicians will go and they're like, they
Speaker 11: would love you there. You doesn't matter who you are
Speaker 11: there as long as you just play good music. But
Speaker 11: that's where it's like, how do you go about especially
Speaker 11: when you're you know, I'm not saying I make a
Speaker 11: bunch of money. I was able to support myself before
Speaker 11: all this stuff was going down, but now it's like, okay,
Speaker 11: barely even scraping by. So it's like, how do you
Speaker 11: just you know, run away for all that when you
Speaker 11: barely have enough to even go off of. But at
Speaker 11: the same time, it's like that's just long story short.
Speaker 11: I've the whole end the closet out of the closet thing.
Speaker 11: I've done that like five times.
Speaker 3: Is I mean, how how is it something that you're like,
Speaker 3: is this like a thing that's like actively taking a
Speaker 3: toll on you constantly having to like hide who you
Speaker 3: are and like in the clart out of the closet.
Speaker 11: Very it's it's brought on a serious drinking problem.
Speaker 3: How old are you? Can I ask you?
Speaker 6: Old you?
Speaker 11: Twenty seven?
Speaker 3: Twenty seven? Yeah, I'm I'm trying to I want I
Speaker 3: want to break down why you can't move.
Speaker 11: All right? Well, I mean that's there's a lot of
Speaker 11: factors to that, because A where do you go if
Speaker 11: you have no one that you're you know, you know there,
Speaker 11: if you have no connections there, then first off, you
Speaker 11: just got to have the money saved up to go
Speaker 11: ahead and get a place.
Speaker 3: Who was that touring band that you talked to?
Speaker 11: Some of them would be like Air Candlebox, and then
Speaker 11: there was uh, what was it the producer for Steve Miller.
Speaker 11: He was a he was a cool guy.
Speaker 3: Can I ask like, have you to see to me
Speaker 3: like you know I have. I'm happy to talk this
Speaker 3: stuff through with you, But to me, if this is
Speaker 3: something where like I would, I'd fucking literally go on
Speaker 3: like Twitter or Reddit, or I would find transgender musicians
Speaker 3: in New York who are like not that big, and
Speaker 3: I would like reach out to them on Instagram or
Speaker 3: Twitter and just be like, how are you doing this
Speaker 3: right now? Like do you give any advice? Like I like,
Speaker 3: this is something that I feel like you could find
Speaker 3: people to talk it through with that would have like
Speaker 3: practical advice that I would not. Does that make sense?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I guess I just wanted to get someone else's opinion
Speaker 11: on this. Is it better to I guess my philosophy
Speaker 11: has always been that is it better to do what
Speaker 11: you have to do to survive and it be something
Speaker 11: that you enjoy? Would you rather be yourself? And so basically,
Speaker 11: would you rather enjoy what you do out in the
Speaker 11: world or be happy with your own internal world. It's
Speaker 11: kind of like a decision I've had to make all
Speaker 11: these years, and I always have chosen that I don't
Speaker 11: have to look in a mirror every day. That's a
Speaker 11: decision that you have to make. But going out and
Speaker 11: doing something and making money to survive is it's a definite.
Speaker 11: So I'd rather go out do something that I love
Speaker 11: then go and do something that I despise doing. But
Speaker 11: at the same it's it's really complicated, But.
Speaker 3: Why why are you? Why? Why are well? Why is
Speaker 3: that your only two options? Why can't you Why isn't
Speaker 3: there a are you completely hopeless to find a situation
Speaker 3: in which you can be out and also playing.
Speaker 11: Music slightly mainly just because of a lot of the
Speaker 11: experiences I've had in the past and that have made
Speaker 11: it to where it's like I kind of just fear
Speaker 11: it now. It's it's complicated, it's tough, and it's not
Speaker 11: something that you know. It's not like I can understand
Speaker 11: you have it either, And I never wish of this
Speaker 11: on my my worst enemy. But at the same time,
Speaker 11: it's like I'd rather, I'd rather do what I love,
Speaker 11: and that's to play music. But at the same time, yes,
Speaker 11: if I could have both, I definitely would, And that's
Speaker 11: kind of the goal. I'm losing my house in a
Speaker 11: few weeks due to the whole pandemic, and I'm getting
Speaker 11: a cheap room at the friend's house out here for
Speaker 11: about six months, and my whole plan is to save
Speaker 11: up as much as I can, and that way I
Speaker 11: can kind of sit there and go, all right, what's next.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good I think that's a good
Speaker 3: plan to try to save up some money.
Speaker 9: To move.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're getting kind of double fucked because
Speaker 3: you know, live music is, you know, on a downward
Speaker 3: How hard are you going at?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: Can I can I call you? Dude? You do?
Speaker 5: I never?
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure get how hard are
Speaker 3: you going at? Like? So okay, Well, first of all,
Speaker 3: someone in the chat was saying it started echoing what
Speaker 3: I was saying, which is, like, you know, there's probably subreddit.
Speaker 3: There's probably subreddits of like you know, there are like
Speaker 3: definitely people on the same journey as you, possibly even
Speaker 3: you know, close fit proximity, closer to you than you
Speaker 3: would think. I would go on Reddit, and I would
Speaker 3: go on Twitter, and I would like find other trans
Speaker 3: artists and like ask them for their advice, even if
Speaker 3: they're like, even if they're similarly hopeless to you, might
Speaker 3: and they don't have like a solution for you, you
Speaker 3: might feel like some solidarity there, or you might make
Speaker 3: you feel less alone about it if you feel alone.
Speaker 11: About it true, you know. Else, I guess one of
Speaker 11: my other plans is to try and maybe start streaming
Speaker 11: while doing like being more of myself.
Speaker 5: You know, and my.
Speaker 3: Like that this is this is fucking another fucking and
Speaker 3: I'm learning this.
Speaker 15: This is.
Speaker 3: I know that we don't have fucking comparable situations, but
Speaker 3: I really do believe that you will be rewarded for
Speaker 3: being yourself because what happened is if you what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to say, how hard have you been going at
Speaker 3: like putting your music out on the internet and like
Speaker 3: streaming on like Urpan or TikTok or anything.
Speaker 11: Like that, barely any at all because I've always been
Speaker 11: afraid to do any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But I think and and look, you know, you're fun of.
Speaker 11: People because you can see them. You can see the reactions.
Speaker 11: You can deal with the reactions in person on streams
Speaker 11: on the internet. This place is wild Man West out here.
Speaker 3: But dude, there are there are sort of like how
Speaker 3: I was saying, like and these like subways, there are
Speaker 3: other like trans artists out there. They're like fucking trans
Speaker 3: people all over the place that would love that. Would
Speaker 3: like if you came in you had like your story
Speaker 3: and you went on TikTok and you if you went
Speaker 3: on TikTok and you made a TikTok video about like
Speaker 3: I'm an artist, here's my story. I tried to you
Speaker 3: literally just told the story that you have told us.
Speaker 3: People would connect with that story and they would want
Speaker 3: to follow you, and they would want to listen to
Speaker 3: your music. And I'm not gonna say that's gonna like
Speaker 3: that like overnight you're gonna be able to like make
Speaker 3: money off of like music streaming. But that could be
Speaker 3: the start of you know, taking ownership over your identity
Speaker 3: and not just take overship by of your identity. But
Speaker 3: you'll start to start to be like, oh, I'm actually
Speaker 3: like being rewarded for being myself. People are like people
Speaker 3: would DM you and be like, hey, I'm really fucking
Speaker 3: glad that you're doing this because I was scared to
Speaker 3: do this, and the way that you're being you know,
Speaker 3: open about who you are is inspiring me. And then
Speaker 3: you'll be like, oh, fuck, I'm actually getting every my
Speaker 3: whole I've been. I've been consistently my whole life punished
Speaker 3: for being who I am. But we're into a fucking
Speaker 3: media landscape right now where I genuinely think you will
Speaker 3: be rewarded for being who you are. Does that make
Speaker 3: sense my thoughting crazy.
Speaker 11: No, it makes a lot of sense. It's just I
Speaker 11: guess on my end of the thing where I first
Speaker 11: time I did that or I came out, it was amazing,
Speaker 11: like I got all those messages from so many people
Speaker 11: and it was so much support. And then I ended
Speaker 11: up homeless and living out of my car and it's
Speaker 11: kind of hard to find a place to go and
Speaker 11: shave and do all that stuff you need to do
Speaker 11: to not look like the other when you're when you're
Speaker 11: home living out of your car every day. And I
Speaker 11: was actually on the process of starting hormones and I
Speaker 11: was supposed to go a whole year every day as
Speaker 11: my you know, as myself, and I made it seven
Speaker 11: months until I just you know, I was oh, listen,
Speaker 11: I couldn't couldn't do it anymore. And so when that happened,
Speaker 11: I was like, fuck, sorry, I don't know if we
Speaker 11: can curse. But I was like, you know, this sucks
Speaker 11: because now I got to go back into hiding per se.
Speaker 11: And at that point I was like, Okay, let me
Speaker 11: figure out everything, get everything back on course again. Then
Speaker 11: I came out again and I was thinking, this is
Speaker 11: going to be the time. It's going to be the
Speaker 11: morning it's going to be. It made it like a year,
Speaker 11: about a year and then ended up in really dire
Speaker 11: strengths again and had to take a step back. And
Speaker 11: then finally after the second time, I ended up making
Speaker 11: music a full time career and I was like, I
Speaker 11: don't ever want to lose this. But then I moved
Speaker 11: away to where I am now in hopes of doing
Speaker 11: exactly what we're talking about, and it did not go well.
Speaker 11: Let's just say it did not go well. So then
Speaker 11: after that I kind of took some time off. I
Speaker 11: kind of laid my head low and came back out
Speaker 11: and I came out swinging because I had something to prove.
Speaker 11: It really built myself up in the city and the
Speaker 11: surrounding area that I'm in. And now that you know,
Speaker 11: I've kind of gotten that point, and then COVID took
Speaker 11: all that away. I'm sitting here going, maybe I should just,
Speaker 11: you know, start thinking about what's next. But I'm cleared
Speaker 11: to do.
Speaker 3: I I again, I'm not I'm not a therapist. I'm
Speaker 3: not like an advice guy. I don't want to till
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you what to do. But
Speaker 3: if if, if you know, we were just friends and
Speaker 3: I was telling you what I think you should do,
Speaker 3: I really I feel like you gotta get the fuck
Speaker 3: out of there. I feel like, you know, I appreciate that,
Speaker 3: and I just feel I feel like you gotta.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you can stay there. I feel
Speaker 3: like because just because if you move, even if you move,
Speaker 3: and you're like fucking homeless for however long. I again, man,
Speaker 3: I I don't want.
Speaker 11: To like it's fighting for a future I kind of gives.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like you got to take the bet,
Speaker 3: you know, I feel I gotta take a chance. You
Speaker 3: just gotta move and you gotta get out of there
Speaker 3: because what what because at least I don't know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is making any sense, but at least, like,
Speaker 3: because what are you gonna do? You're just gonna stay
Speaker 3: in the closet and be in pain forever, or at.
Speaker 11: Least until something works out, until something happens in this
Speaker 11: long story, okay, long story short, I'm in the craziest
Speaker 11: state in America. That tells you enough.
Speaker 3: And also I hate that, like you you like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck you can't do your job if you're trans
Speaker 3: that's sound.
Speaker 11: Well, no, it's just because there's a lot of good.
Speaker 3: You gotta I feel like you gotta get out of there.
Speaker 11: The mindset out here is not Like I even moved
Speaker 11: to a city that is known for being very LGBT friendly.
Speaker 11: Can I realize it's not When you get outside of
Speaker 11: just like this one street that they dedicated down the
Speaker 11: whole city, it's like there's nothing else and everyone else
Speaker 11: gets like really put off by it. But that's another
Speaker 11: thing that's that a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 11: There's there's a lot of infighting in the in the
Speaker 11: LGBT community. There's a lot of game and Muslim people
Speaker 11: that don't like trans people really yeah, and a lot
Speaker 11: of game using people don't like buy people. It's there's
Speaker 11: infighting all and all the time in all types of places.
Speaker 11: And what's funny is I'm going to say somebody, uh
Speaker 11: I think, No, I'm not gonna say it because it's
Speaker 11: just too spot on.
Speaker 3: What Okay, let me ask you crazy question. No, if
Speaker 3: you if you could live anywhere in the entire world,
Speaker 3: where you live.
Speaker 11: In the entire world, Well that's the thing. I hate
Speaker 11: the cold with a burning passion. Okay, but a lot
Speaker 11: of the places I would like to live are could
Speaker 11: I mean like New York City, but just I want
Speaker 11: to go somewhere where there's just people playing music all
Speaker 11: the time and that's all that happens every day, every second,
Speaker 11: every minute. Oh, I love Nashville. That's a good spot.
Speaker 3: Is Nashville the LGBT friendly.
Speaker 6: Not as much?
Speaker 11: But I'm not like I mean, I'm born and raised
Speaker 11: in the backwoods, you know, on the creeks all that stuff.
Speaker 11: So at the same time, I'm not like, you know,
Speaker 11: the most quote unquote flamboyant person. I'm still raised in
Speaker 11: the backwoods. I know how to handle myself. But it's
Speaker 11: just I need to be somewhere that's not so like
Speaker 11: society is shutting it all down.
Speaker 3: I again, I I. You know, I'm privileged and ship
Speaker 3: so I don't want to like I I this has
Speaker 3: come from like a place of like, I want to
Speaker 3: have hope for you because I see it like I,
Speaker 3: I feel like there is an opening and then you
Speaker 3: should try to find it for you to move to
Speaker 3: another place where you can because you don't have to move.
Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to move to
Speaker 3: like an a, you don't have to move to like
Speaker 3: the as to to your most expensive fucking San Francisco
Speaker 3: city to just find a place where you can be
Speaker 3: trans without people shitting on you.
Speaker 11: True, it's just I guess it wouldn't be so hard
Speaker 11: if it wasn't for my my h for my career,
Speaker 11: you know, for my my career field. Because that's just
Speaker 11: that's that's the kind of feel where you are put
Speaker 11: in front of people and they either like you or
Speaker 11: they don't, and your job is based upon their judgement
Speaker 11: of you. And if you have to close, it makes
Speaker 11: people not be happy about man.
Speaker 3: But would you be opposed to like working a job
Speaker 3: outside of your fields for a little bit.
Speaker 11: I've worked a lot of jobs in my field, Like
Speaker 11: I've worked like sixty something jobs already, and I really
Speaker 11: don't want to go back. I missed playing like five
Speaker 11: six nights a week, sometimes two or three gigs for
Speaker 11: like all day long, twelve hours of just playing music.
Speaker 11: That would be the best. But it sucks.
Speaker 3: It sucks that it's just all just gone here here, here,
Speaker 3: Here's here's what I think you should do. I think
Speaker 3: you should find like literally Google, go on fucking pick
Speaker 3: like your top five cities that you would want to
Speaker 3: live in. Go to Facebook type what kind of music
Speaker 3: do you say you play?
Speaker 11: I mean blues, blues and funking' jazz.
Speaker 3: Literally type going to Facebook type Brooklyn jazz and find
Speaker 3: the Facebook group and make a make a post in
Speaker 3: the Facebook group telling your entire story and people. I
Speaker 3: guarantee people will reach out to you and they will
Speaker 3: have like actual actuable advice. Like I I I, I
Speaker 3: know that is like a lame answer, but like I
Speaker 3: think that you should I think that you should. You
Speaker 3: should you should try to connect with people because there's
Speaker 3: there is I fucking like, there's got it. There's there
Speaker 3: has to be someone who has been in your exact
Speaker 3: situation who you could feasibly get in touch with that
Speaker 3: might be able to help you.
Speaker 13: In some way.
Speaker 11: Well, there's one person the internet.
Speaker 3: Like you said that again, there.
Speaker 11: Is one person I've been wreting to reach out to
Speaker 11: and and it worked before where I got the long
Speaker 11: story short feature on stage with like a billboard topping
Speaker 11: band because I just reached out to him, like You're
Speaker 11: an influence.
Speaker 3: Can keep doing that, keep keep keep keep reaching.
Speaker 9: Out there.
Speaker 11: There was there's this one chick, her name, she's from
Speaker 11: this band called Against Me, but she did exactly what
Speaker 11: I'm kind of doing right now. And they were kind
Speaker 11: of famous, and they were super famous or pretty pretty
Speaker 11: famous in the nineties as a punk band, and she
Speaker 11: stayed as he throughout all of that, and they asked,
Speaker 11: why did it take you so long to come out
Speaker 11: about this? And they're like, I wanted to wait until
Speaker 11: I had more than enough fans where I could lose
Speaker 11: fifty percent of them and still be you know, just fine.
Speaker 4: Why though.
Speaker 11: It's complicated. That's what makes it so complicated is because
Speaker 11: you know you're you're putting a like a funnel on
Speaker 11: your potential. I feel like in today's world because so
Speaker 11: many people you know, not everybody obviously, but there's a
Speaker 11: lot of people less in this world that look at
Speaker 11: someone like me and go freak crazy, lunatic weird.
Speaker 3: Though, But I think, and this this to me, this
Speaker 3: is like, to me, this isn't even like a social
Speaker 3: thing any but it's just like a marketing thing, like
Speaker 3: if you like it's like if you look at it
Speaker 3: like that, like you you're you're in a niche in
Speaker 3: a way.
Speaker 11: I went to school for music business and all that stuff,
Speaker 11: and I mean, that's another factory right there. You got
Speaker 11: to you gotta do your your brand exactly.
Speaker 3: But that's good. I think it's good to be in
Speaker 3: a niche because that means the people who love you
Speaker 3: and connect with you and identify with you will really
Speaker 3: love you and connect you and identify with you, and
Speaker 3: will really be inclined to support you more than just
Speaker 3: a general person someone who is involved in your niche.
Speaker 11: So I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should look at it as a
Speaker 3: bad thing.
Speaker 11: I want to tell you that that that was what
Speaker 11: you just said right there is pretty much the perfect
Speaker 11: thing I needed to hear throughout this call. Like that's
Speaker 11: why I think I called to.
Speaker 3: Hear that Okay, good, good, because I I really fucking
Speaker 3: fully believe that especially fuck I this is like some
Speaker 3: fucking Gary vannerschok bullshit. But like I seriously like it
Speaker 3: used to be. See if you know what, if this
Speaker 3: were like a nineteen if this were like nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 3: you'd be fucked.
Speaker 5: But it's not.
Speaker 3: If this were nineteen eighty one, you you you'd have
Speaker 3: to like you, you you couldn't do this, but you're
Speaker 3: But it's not. It's twenty twenty and there's TikTok, and
Speaker 3: there's arpant, and there's fucking Twitter and there's SoundCloud. All right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like, so the the.
Speaker 3: You, you, the tools are there for you to find
Speaker 3: your audience and to find your niche and I and
Speaker 3: everything that you look at as a bad I swear
Speaker 3: to guy, everything that you look at as a bad thing,
Speaker 3: everything that people call you a freak, for, everything that
Speaker 3: people bully you, for, everything that people give you shit
Speaker 3: for will will. This sounds cliche, but I genuinely believe it.
Speaker 3: All those things will actually be the things that give
Speaker 3: you the most benefit, the most value to the people
Speaker 3: who identify with you. Who are gonna be your fans,
Speaker 3: who are gonna buy your T shirts, We're gonna stream
Speaker 3: your music, who are gonna sign up for your Patreon,
Speaker 3: who are gonna, you know, do all those things.
Speaker 11: Wow, I just I don't know. I just never thought
Speaker 11: about it that way, never thought about you know, the
Speaker 11: people that will that do come, even though it might
Speaker 11: not be you knows it might be a harder road,
Speaker 11: but the people there will be more genuinely there exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why would you want those fans in the
Speaker 3: first place, The that would leave if you came out.
Speaker 11: Well, it sounds like I got to make some plans.
Speaker 3: Make some plans, right, And look, I was someone and
Speaker 3: then the someone in the chad was saying this, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you are a discord, but uh, we
Speaker 3: have a little self promote channel. Definitely put your stuff
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 11: Okay, we'll check it out. Well, then I mean, how
Speaker 11: do I how do I join it? Is it in
Speaker 11: the info below?
Speaker 3: Someone type someone type exclamation point discord.
Speaker 11: For us already in it, already done, rock and roll.
Speaker 3: Yeah put I really spectre of course, man, And thank
Speaker 3: you for the safe don't.
Speaker 11: Oh well you know, oh no, no, no right, too
Speaker 11: much too much going on, too much suff to do.
Speaker 3: All right, man, take care and and and and good
Speaker 3: luck to you.
Speaker 11: Thank you and thanks for doing what you do.
Speaker 5: Chat.
Speaker 6: You'll be easy.
Speaker 11: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: All right, man, take care, have a good night you too.
Speaker 12: Came from Zach Yah.
Speaker 3: Zach Zach.
Speaker 8: Dick.
Speaker 6: Finally have we.
Speaker 3: Never spoken before. It's the first time that we have
Speaker 3: ever spoken.
Speaker 6: This is the first time we're speaking, Dick.
Speaker 3: So you tell me this is you tell me that
Speaker 3: this is momentous.
Speaker 6: I don't know how many times I've called it. It
Speaker 6: feels like I've been on the phone for a year.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it almost feels like we know
Speaker 3: each other a little bit?
Speaker 6: Yeah? No, I feel like I know you pretty well.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if you feel like you
Speaker 6: know me, but I hope you do.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily fel like I know you, but I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't mind. We can I think we
Speaker 3: can feel comfortable in each other's presence. I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: I have like tangible information about you necessarily, but I
Speaker 3: think that we that we could you know, be and
Speaker 3: have a conversation with each other.
Speaker 6: That's very fair, to be honest. There there's a really
Speaker 6: really good reason that I called, and I feel like
Speaker 6: you're the only person that can that can help me
Speaker 6: with this. So that's I'm really excited for this.
Speaker 3: Why before you tell me what it is, I want
Speaker 3: to know why you think I'm the only person that
Speaker 3: can help you, to.
Speaker 6: Be honest, It's something that's been weighing on my mind
Speaker 6: for years and years, and I've spent a lot of
Speaker 6: time trying to figure out, you know, what it means,
Speaker 6: what it could mean, what the answer is to this.
Speaker 6: And I think I just came across you probably like
Speaker 6: two weeks ago or so. I think it's been tiktoks
Speaker 6: and I've been following you since, and you just you
Speaker 6: have this sense of knowledge that you put off in
Speaker 6: the areas that I've never felt from anyone else, and
Speaker 6: I feel like you might be able to get me
Speaker 6: some insight on this particular topic. I don't know, it's
Speaker 6: just a feeling. I guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, we can try it, but I have said but
Speaker 3: I'm not qualified to do anything in any shape or form.
Speaker 3: But you know what, Zach, you know what Tonight's a
Speaker 3: special night. Well, I let's give it a shot. Tell
Speaker 3: me what's going on.
Speaker 6: So this is something that I thought about years ago,
Speaker 6: and like I said, I've never really been able to
Speaker 6: get closure on it by myself. But I just I
Speaker 6: really need to know and I hope you can give me,
Speaker 6: you know, some some guidance on it. So here it is,
Speaker 6: does is hard? Do Do dogs know their dogs?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?
Speaker 11: Okay, I have a dog.
Speaker 6: I have a dog, exact and he doesn't know that.
Speaker 3: She has no fucking clue.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay. How do you know that she doesn't know?
Speaker 13: Though?
Speaker 3: Because she knows very few things. Yeah, food is delicious, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she knows. She knows. I mean, look, she knows things
Speaker 3: that humans that that that animals instinctually know. Yeah, with
Speaker 3: their brains, but with you know, their I'm not again,
Speaker 3: this is why I don't know anything or anything. But
Speaker 3: like she knows, she doesn't know what a dog is,
Speaker 3: she instinctually knows what food is. She instinctually responds to
Speaker 3: affection and the release of oxytocin as we all do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, when she's being pet it releases feel good
Speaker 3: chemicals in her brain, so she knows she likes being petted.
Speaker 3: But she doesn't know these things because like adult, like,
Speaker 3: everything that she knows is because of chemical is because
Speaker 3: of chemicals being released in her brain, not because of
Speaker 3: knowledge from like a database or anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no one's ever hid her she's a dog, exactly.
Speaker 3: No one's ever told her she's a dog. If she
Speaker 3: can't feel it, she does not know. If she can't
Speaker 3: feel it with you, she can't feel dog with her body.
Speaker 11: But sometimes my.
Speaker 6: Dog follows me up to my car and he he
Speaker 6: goes to the back door. He doesn't ever try to drive,
Speaker 6: So I feel like he knows I'm a dog. I
Speaker 6: cannot drive this car. I got to get in the back.
Speaker 6: That's just how it is.
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't know what driving a car is.
Speaker 3: He had that that idea is not that is foreign
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he knows. He has to know that it's
Speaker 6: it's a mode of transportation unlike walking on his four legs,
Speaker 6: And he has to know that he's not capable of
Speaker 6: making that possible, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't think he thinks that
Speaker 3: much about this. I don't think he's thinking that. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's thinking as hard about it as you
Speaker 3: think he is.
Speaker 6: I want to think that he's so smart.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: By the way, Look, I'm not going to be the
Speaker 3: kid telling you that Santa Claus isn't real even though
Speaker 3: he's not.
Speaker 6: But yeah, well, but you're probably right.
Speaker 5: Mhm.
Speaker 3: The dogs don't know anything, you know what? Okay? Like, hey,
Speaker 3: what you want to hear something interesting that I read something.
Speaker 6: I absolutely love to hear something interesting.
Speaker 3: This fucking this actually kind of freaked me out a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 5: But like.
Speaker 3: I read. I read this article that was talking about
Speaker 3: how consciousness isn't a binary of conscious and unconscious. It's
Speaker 3: actually a spectrum. There's more conscious to let there's more
Speaker 3: conscious and there's less conscious and humans this was I
Speaker 3: think is really fucking interesting. Humans have not won the
Speaker 3: binary of consciousness and unconscious by being conscious. They're simply
Speaker 3: more conscious than other things, which means there's something more
Speaker 3: conscious than us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So like an ant doesn't understand the world of a chicken, yeah,
Speaker 3: a chicken and understand the world of a dog. Don't
Speaker 3: imagine how like like, imagine how little a dog understands
Speaker 3: the human world. There is another organism above us that
Speaker 3: we understand as much that we can only understand as
Speaker 3: much as a dog could understand us.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you do you think that that type of
Speaker 6: organism is here with us?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares about us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean human dogs follow us around. That Like,
Speaker 6: do you think it's possible that we could follow that
Speaker 6: around and not even realize that it possesses this ability
Speaker 6: over us.
Speaker 3: Dogs follow us around because we do things to them
Speaker 3: that release feel good chemicals in their brain. Yeah, such
Speaker 3: as pat them and give them food, because that's the
Speaker 3: only thing they know is those chemicals in their brain.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I think that means that you're
Speaker 3: By the way, I wouldn't say that doesn't mean your
Speaker 3: dog love does love you. I think your dog actually
Speaker 3: does love you. Yeah, I also think. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is some fucking pickle Rick shit right here. But love
Speaker 3: is you know, just chemical?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, for sure, I agree.
Speaker 3: Mm, so your dog does love you, but love is
Speaker 3: it is just a chemical that compels humans to breathe.
Speaker 3: That's a quote from Rick and Morty, but it's kind
Speaker 3: of true. Yeah, and I'm you know, I'm Pickle Rick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you gotta rip that band aid all.
Speaker 6: Sometimes the hard reality to face, but a necessary one.
Speaker 3: How are you doing, Exach, I'm doing good. You know.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here thanks to my girlfriend where we were
Speaker 6: watching a hockey game. She's she's passed out. She's pregnant,
Speaker 6: so she falls asleep.
Speaker 3: Pretty easy, you girlfriend, I do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love her more than anything outside of our
Speaker 6: son growing inside of her stomach.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 11: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 6: But that you know, what is love?
Speaker 3: Well? You know, a cartoon once said that love is
Speaker 3: just a chemical that compels humans to bring.
Speaker 11: Oh, she just woke up.
Speaker 6: She says, Hi, hello, man, this is awesome. I'm so
Speaker 6: you know, I called so many times. I thought that
Speaker 6: my service provider was going to cancel my service. But
Speaker 6: here we are.
Speaker 3: We did it, Zach. We did it, and you know what,
Speaker 3: thank you, Thank you for being persistent enough to get here.
Speaker 6: You know, I couldn't have done it without you.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 6: There are multiple times where I was like, you know,
Speaker 6: it's not gonna happen, and I didn't the call, you know,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't redial, and I'd go back to the stream,
Speaker 6: and then somebody else would say, you know, I've called
Speaker 6: this many times and I can't get through, and you're like,
Speaker 6: don't give up. And I was like, yeah, yeah, don't
Speaker 6: give up.
Speaker 3: You got this, And ladies and gentlemen, this is this
Speaker 3: right here is a success story.
Speaker 6: This is a breath.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start doing and I gotta figure out to do. I
Speaker 3: need a breakthrough button, like when we have a breakthrough
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 6: Staples that was easy button or like something bigger, like
Speaker 6: it's just you know, like a button. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean I can't make one, but if you had one,
Speaker 6: that would be cool. I wish I could contribute.
Speaker 3: We'll figure something out.
Speaker 6: Yeah all right, well I'll give someone else a chance.
Speaker 6: I appreciate your time. It's it's been great. You really
Speaker 6: give me some insight on something I've been, you know,
Speaker 6: a demon I've been you know, struggling with for the
Speaker 6: past you know how long.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy to help you out. And you know,
Speaker 3: I hope this doesn't change your relationship with your dog.
Speaker 6: Oh it doesn't know. I love him very much, and
Speaker 6: I'm hopefu that he loves me. If he doesn't, then
Speaker 6: you know, it's fine. He does, he gets said and
Speaker 6: he's cool with whatever. But you know, yeah, well you
Speaker 6: can't change the way that people or dogs feel, you know,
Speaker 6: you can only adjust accordingly.
Speaker 3: I'll drink to that. Have a good evening, Zach.
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 6: All from you A.
Speaker 3: Hello, Elonkay?
Speaker 12: How are you doing?
Speaker 6: Gigs?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm all right, And thank you for asking,
Speaker 3: because not a lot look like high level with you here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not a lot of people as not a lot of
Speaker 3: people ask me how I am, which is fine. I
Speaker 3: don't mind the people ask me how I am that
Speaker 3: often either because they're not obligated to. I'm not. I
Speaker 3: didn't set up the streams so that people could ask
Speaker 3: me how I am. That would be ridiculous, but I
Speaker 3: appreciate what they do have that response, of course exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean it's always nice, but I'm not actively seeking it.
Speaker 3: I'm not actively Have you ever lied elive? No, actually
Speaker 3: we'll get into that. What are you doing right now?
Speaker 12: What am I doing?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 12: Right now, I've been having a few booze and watching.
Speaker 1: The stream That's cool.
Speaker 3: What what do you What do you usually do all day?
Speaker 12: What do I usually do all day? Well, see, I'm
Speaker 12: a diesel technician, so usually I'm working on heavy equipment
Speaker 12: or semi trucks.
Speaker 3: So you work on trucks all day yep.
Speaker 12: Minds all day? Always the thread of being crushed. I
Speaker 12: love doing it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's kind of that's scary. You're like constantly
Speaker 3: under your a constant threat of a gigantic machine crushing
Speaker 3: your skull.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, And that's the thrill.
Speaker 12: There's nothing better than that.
Speaker 3: Thal real? Are you serious right now? You know that's
Speaker 3: weird because if you just if you had just told
Speaker 3: me that you enjoy the mechanics of fixing cars, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't think that was crazily fucked up. But the fact
Speaker 3: that you're telling me that you enjoy the danger of
Speaker 3: potentially getting your head crushed by being underneath a car,
Speaker 3: that's the excipherment. I almost don't believe you.
Speaker 12: No, that's the real excitement. Are as safe as possible,
Speaker 12: you could be as safe as possibly can, but you
Speaker 12: never know if that thing's going to crush you, so
Speaker 12: you always have to keep that like ready thought of
Speaker 12: fight or flight.
Speaker 3: Are you being serious? Right now.
Speaker 12: I'm being dead serious.
Speaker 3: I can't that makes no, I'm not I'm not doing
Speaker 3: this to I. Look, I know there's a funny situation
Speaker 3: and there's a funny call, but I'm not doing this
Speaker 3: to except that makes no sense whatsoever, and I am
Speaker 3: still I don't believe it.
Speaker 9: It's the thrill.
Speaker 12: So I've always been a thrill seeker. I've always been
Speaker 12: on dirt bikes, always always been looking for that fight
Speaker 12: or flight.
Speaker 13: But that's.
Speaker 3: Dirt bikes, and like skydiving.
Speaker 12: There's real so different, I know, but I couldn't find
Speaker 12: my way into that profession. I ended up usually getting hurt.
Speaker 3: That's like saying that like you get that To me,
Speaker 3: that's like saying that you get a thrill out of
Speaker 3: like holding a knife up to your throat but not
Speaker 3: slicing your throat.
Speaker 12: No, I wouldn't take it that far, but I do
Speaker 12: like that fight or flight's stimulation. However, I do know
Speaker 12: that the real question of this stream was about the lie.
Speaker 3: No, there's wait, so are you sorry you telling me?
Speaker 3: Would you would you prefer to work in an environment
Speaker 3: that had would you get off on working in an
Speaker 3: environment that had that had less safety restrictions.
Speaker 12: No, not necessarily, because I also highly look after safety.
Speaker 12: But sometimes that even when safety is at the highest
Speaker 12: precaution and shit's been looked at, you never know if
Speaker 12: something's going to go wrong for no reason. There's always
Speaker 12: that slight chance.
Speaker 3: Why does that appeal to you when you're fixing a car,
Speaker 3: but you're just that makes no sense When you're fixing cars, I.
Speaker 12: Behind it and engineering. I also love mechanics and engineering
Speaker 12: very much. I also love taking things apart. But I've
Speaker 12: also been a thrill seeker myself, and sometimes I know
Speaker 12: that that thoughts in the back of my head. When
Speaker 12: the trucks stable, I know there's nothing to be worried about.
Speaker 12: But when like you are doing something that's heavy equipment,
Speaker 12: you know, and you have to strap a crane to
Speaker 12: it and pull it out and everything's working perfectly fine,
Speaker 12: but something accidentally slips for no reason. There's always that
Speaker 12: danger behind those kinds of jobs, and it's kind of
Speaker 12: crazy to watch and try to like figure out what
Speaker 12: you could do better next time. If it did happen,
Speaker 12: nothing could happen, no one could get hurt because of
Speaker 12: the safety precautions that were in place. But there's always
Speaker 12: that thrill of being like, whoa, that shit was crazy?
Speaker 3: All right, real quick? Can I answer something? What have
Speaker 3: you ever lied? Boy?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 12: And I've only told a handful of people this life,
Speaker 12: and it would be amazing to have it out in public.
Speaker 5: Hit.
Speaker 12: So a few years back.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 12: Heavily under the influence of alcohol, way too wasted for
Speaker 12: my own good at my girlfriend's mom's house while watching
Speaker 12: her dog. Well, I ended up shitting on her mom's
Speaker 12: floor and then blaming the dog later when I found
Speaker 12: out that I shot on the or.
Speaker 9: And got away with it.
Speaker 3: And to this day she doesn't know, no, and happily.
Speaker 12: It's an X now. But yes, she did not know.
Speaker 12: I ended up picking up my own shit, but she
Speaker 12: never knew it was probably me.
Speaker 3: You ended up picking it up? Yeah, ended picking it up.
Speaker 12: I ended up picking it up with paper towel and
Speaker 12: stuff and flushing it.
Speaker 3: But sheould apologize to the dog man.
Speaker 12: Oh dude, that dog was amazing too.
Speaker 4: I love that dog.
Speaker 12: I felt so bad.
Speaker 3: She think the dog was pissed to you.
Speaker 11: Probably he looked really upset.
Speaker 12: When I looked over at him, he looked at me
Speaker 12: and just kind of looked down in the way, I
Speaker 12: felt real bad.
Speaker 3: What do you think you could do to make it
Speaker 3: up to the dog?
Speaker 12: If I were to ever meet that dog again, I
Speaker 12: would give it the biggest milk bone I've ever seen,
Speaker 12: plus a giant cow leg cowbone.
Speaker 3: Would that be enough?
Speaker 6: It might be.
Speaker 12: I'd probably have to give them.
Speaker 11: A lot of walks too.
Speaker 3: What'd you say?
Speaker 13: Your name was?
Speaker 12: My name was Eli, Man.
Speaker 3: Eli.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thanks for being honest with us about your lie, and
Speaker 3: I hope it made you feel better to come clean
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 12: It really did, Man. Thank you for letting me bring
Speaker 12: that up.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 12: You have a great night.
Speaker 3: Man you too, Man, I love I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 13: You get.
Speaker 3: Should I should? I drink some water? I don't want
Speaker 3: to drink any I don't want to drink water anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of you. Know how people say they're trying
Speaker 3: to quit carbs, they're trying to quit sugar. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to quit water. I write a blog saying that too
Speaker 3: much water is bad for you. It makes you gain weight,
Speaker 3: it makes you fat. Water makes the fat. I'm I'm i'm, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a water fast. I'm doing a water fast,
Speaker 3: but I'm doing the opposite of the water. Most people
Speaker 3: when they do water fast, they only drink water. I'm
Speaker 3: doing I'm eating everything and drinking everything besides water.
Speaker 12: Ethan pellet.
Speaker 3: Ethan Pelleteer, Hello, I'm in.
Speaker 10: You're in?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Are you watching this? You? Are you watching the stream?
Speaker 3: Ethan Pelletier.
Speaker 5: I just shut it off?
Speaker 3: Okay, you just shut it off. Where are you? What
Speaker 3: room of your house are you in right now? If
Speaker 3: you live in a house I live.
Speaker 5: I'm in my living room.
Speaker 6: I just left my bedroom.
Speaker 3: Where can you I don't Where can you go where
Speaker 3: you're even more isolated than your living room? Do you
Speaker 3: have a cellar of some kind?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Hold on one second, I do have a cellar, but
Speaker 5: uh are you able to hear me better?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 3: Are you in the cellar?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: I switched a speaker phones.
Speaker 3: I want the most isolated version of you. I don't
Speaker 3: want you to fill I don't want you in your
Speaker 3: living room where you're like, Oh no, my roommate's going
Speaker 3: to come in and hear me talking to Gecko.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: I want you know, oh, I live in a house
Speaker 5: by myself. I live in a house by myself.
Speaker 3: So what did you do all day?
Speaker 5: I worked from let's say nine to five. I'm an accountant,
Speaker 5: and I came home just kind of relaxed. I kind
Speaker 5: of got a I actually had a reduction in my
Speaker 5: own anxiety because I've been taking an auditing course and
Speaker 5: I found out that I got an A on a
Speaker 5: paper that I thought I bombed. So I was like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how I did that, but hey, I'll
Speaker 5: take it. We were taking an auditing course, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: just it's an eight week course and it's so I
Speaker 5: can get into graduate school.
Speaker 3: What is auditing?
Speaker 5: Farting is basically just trying to make sure that okay,
Speaker 5: so trying to find a right way to put it
Speaker 5: all right. In accounting, accountants, mostly what they do is
Speaker 5: just record transactions. So let's say, uh, you own a
Speaker 5: company and you need to purchase some materials for some reason.
Speaker 5: An accountant records that transaction. They record any transaction that
Speaker 5: has to do with money, and then they make balance
Speaker 5: sheets and reports based on the money that is spent
Speaker 5: and take it.
Speaker 3: Where do you think we go when we die?
Speaker 5: I do not know yet. Do you think, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I have been thinking. I have to admit that kind
Speaker 5: of comes in my head every so often and i'd
Speaker 5: like to see it. Yeah, it's something that comes in
Speaker 5: my head because I got a little bit of a
Speaker 5: fear of death, so I kind of would like to
Speaker 5: make I prefer the idea of there being something, just
Speaker 5: because I don't like the idea of going out and
Speaker 5: being nothing.
Speaker 3: You know, are you afraid of death?
Speaker 5: Uh? I just it's something that I've carried since I
Speaker 5: was a kid, and uh, it's just the idea. I
Speaker 5: just don't like the idea of ceasing to exist as
Speaker 5: myself or that even that remote possibility of that.
Speaker 6: Because as as someone.
Speaker 5: Who's agnostic, I'm not certain, but I just I genuinely
Speaker 5: don't like the idea of you know, poof.
Speaker 3: So when you say that, what do you when you
Speaker 3: say exists as yourself? Does that mean that like, if
Speaker 3: let's say you found out that you could be reincarnated
Speaker 3: as like like that, you wouldn't like that. You wouldn't
Speaker 3: even if it was you. You get to keep on living,
Speaker 3: but you can't live as ethan pelleteer.
Speaker 5: I want to keep my identity and my person I
Speaker 5: feel like I just really like being me and I
Speaker 5: don't really ever want to lose that.
Speaker 3: Do you like your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for the most part. Yes, I mean to get
Speaker 5: where I've been. I've definitely been through lives of crap.
Speaker 5: I lost my mom three years ago to leukemia, and
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I got the house. I inherited
Speaker 5: it from her, and I had to deal with some
Speaker 5: guilt over that because I felt guilty that I profited
Speaker 5: over her death. But I came to a point where
Speaker 5: I realized that, you know, I remember my mother, and
Speaker 5: I remember like the good and the bad, and I
Speaker 5: do care about her.
Speaker 11: And there's something.
Speaker 5: If she were alive, she'd be proud of where I
Speaker 5: am today, and she'd be happy that I have the house.
Speaker 5: She'd be happy that I still have the house because
Speaker 5: when she died, I didn't have a job, so it
Speaker 5: was a very uncertain time period where I wasn't sure
Speaker 5: if I was going to be able to keep the
Speaker 5: house or not. When I fortunately found a good accounting job,
Speaker 5: and well, I had to save my house.
Speaker 3: No, I agree, I can understand where those feelings of
Speaker 3: like guilt would come. But like, dude, what you said,
Speaker 3: like full on, like she would want you to have
Speaker 3: that house, she would want you to have a good life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she'd be proud of me from where I
Speaker 5: am today. And it wasn't like I killed her or
Speaker 5: anything like that. So it's not like I was wishing
Speaker 5: for her death or doing nothing actively.
Speaker 3: No one, no one thought that.
Speaker 5: No, I know, I'm just saying, it's not like I
Speaker 5: was doing those things, so I shouldn't feel any guilt
Speaker 5: towards that, you know what I mean. I guess obviously
Speaker 5: if I weren't to be a bad person anyway, so
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even feel guilt in that situation.
Speaker 3: But you know, I I guess makes sense too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you had done it, if you had killed your mom,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't feel guilty about it because the type of
Speaker 3: person that would do that is probably antisocial enough that
Speaker 3: they wouldn't They would do it and not feel guilty
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, definitely, So I I have to admit, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I do really like having my own house.
Speaker 5: But and that's part of where some of that guilt
Speaker 5: was coming from. But you know again it's I mean,
Speaker 5: what can you do. You can get the cards that
Speaker 5: you're dealt with and you play them as as they come,
Speaker 5: you know, m hm.
Speaker 3: Well ethan Pelleteer, You know, I'm happy for you. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I was a little when you
Speaker 3: were talking about auditing. I was a little bored.
Speaker 5: But oh, I know act is very boring.
Speaker 3: But you But that's the thing is yourself. You're aware
Speaker 3: of the you. I think that you're because i've you know,
Speaker 3: there's a stereotype about like accountants that they're like their
Speaker 3: parents made them be an accountant or whatever. But you
Speaker 3: seem this does seem like a path that you have chosen.
Speaker 3: You're happy with. I'm happy.
Speaker 5: Actually, there can actually be some really funny stuff that
Speaker 5: happens in accounting.
Speaker 12: And I'll so.
Speaker 5: We have this thief where I work, and then there's
Speaker 5: really incompetent people where I work. There's something that's common
Speaker 5: in probably any profession. And one of the one of these,
Speaker 5: this one dude, basically he finds out that somebody is
Speaker 5: stealing from his store. So what he does is he
Speaker 5: decides to basically have her pay back what she stole,
Speaker 5: which if the first time, if it never happened again,
Speaker 5: I guess you could say it worked. But she kept
Speaker 5: stealing from the store over and over again, and they
Speaker 5: kept trying to make her pay it back, and at
Speaker 5: one point, my coworkers just like, well, you just keep
Speaker 5: giving her interest free loans, so you know, it's just
Speaker 5: you get stories like that doing it. But that's going
Speaker 5: to happen anywhere, allright.
Speaker 3: We asked with you again that story I also found boring,
Speaker 3: but I find it makes me. It makes me happy
Speaker 3: that you find it interesting.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I should also admit that, uh, this is
Speaker 5: actually the third time I've called like that i'd actually
Speaker 5: gotten u. We've talked twice before. The first conversation I
Speaker 5: told about the roommate, the one that was going around
Speaker 5: the storms. You know it's happened.
Speaker 8: Yes, well, I admit, Look, I hope that.
Speaker 3: We have a fourth time and a fifth time at
Speaker 3: a sixth time until until it's all over. And I
Speaker 3: love you very much and I'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you. And I also wanted to say that
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a good arc for me
Speaker 5: because when I first started talking to you, I felt
Speaker 5: really nervous. The second time I was a little less nervous,
Speaker 5: but this time I felt very comfortable. And I thank
Speaker 5: you for that.
Speaker 3: Good. I'm glad that you felt comfortable. You know, you
Speaker 3: got a good thing though.
Speaker 5: Nathan Pelletier yeah, definitely, and you do too, because honestly,
Speaker 5: this show it's gonna take off, it's already taken off.
Speaker 5: And the fact is that, I mean, you're You're only
Speaker 5: gonna go up from here.
Speaker 3: So when I'm making millions of dollars, I know who
Speaker 3: to call.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you'll need a good accountant. All right, man,
Speaker 5: I'll talk.
Speaker 3: To you soon.
Speaker 5: All right, Thank you, Uh, talk to you later, by later.
Speaker 3: I love you, Pelt.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, See this is Aaron?
Speaker 3: Is Aaron?
Speaker 6: Darren?
Speaker 3: You said this is Dan or Aaron?
Speaker 6: A a Ron?
Speaker 3: Aaron. My best friend in elementary school is named Aaron.
Speaker 3: And he had not got into a fight because three
Speaker 3: of my friends broke into his house when we were
Speaker 3: thirteen and we raided his fridge, and we raided his
Speaker 3: fridge and he had a fucking you know, the book
Speaker 3: Call of the Wild? Aaron. Do you know what book?
Speaker 3: He had a fucking copy of Call of the Wild
Speaker 3: in his.
Speaker 6: Fridge, just keeping it cold in there, and then he
Speaker 6: and then he came in.
Speaker 3: He busted it back. He came home and he looked
Speaker 3: at me and he was like what And he looked
Speaker 3: at us and he was like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: And then I held up the copy of Call the
Speaker 3: Wild and I was like, what are you doing? But
Speaker 3: he was in the right. I was wrong because I
Speaker 3: was in his house. No, he didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: I actually I was. I was in way more trouble
Speaker 3: than he was. There's something illegal about putting a copy
Speaker 3: of Call in the Wild in your fridge, but breaking
Speaker 3: into someone's house is a different story.
Speaker 6: Well that's funny, that's a good story.
Speaker 3: Aaron.
Speaker 6: How we going, man? How you doing?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm all right. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 3: thanks for asking people l ask about me, which is
Speaker 3: you know, is fine? Then I obligate it to but
Speaker 3: it does feel less than they do. What are you
Speaker 3: doing right now?
Speaker 6: Eron, I was just watching the stream all night. I've
Speaker 6: been loving it. It's great.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 6: This is your first time in the format, you know,
Speaker 6: just talking to one another.
Speaker 3: Is this your first time watching it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's the first time, like some other callers here,
Speaker 6: I just saw you on Reddit. I thought it was great.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, thank you man, I'm happy, happier part of
Speaker 3: the niche. You know, Reddit? What else do you do
Speaker 3: on Reddit? What are your most frequented subs?
Speaker 6: Oh Man I'm actually really new to it all. To
Speaker 6: be honest, I'm like a revert or maybe you know,
Speaker 6: I'm like the Benjamin Button of internet people. I've I've
Speaker 6: been off internet and social media and stuff for a
Speaker 6: really long time, but just starting to get back into it,
Speaker 6: but trying to use it responsibly. I guess I love
Speaker 6: psychology and stuff, so I know there's a lot of
Speaker 6: issues with stuff online I try to stay away from.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I said I would make this a quickie.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some good.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some but I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think of some good questions I can get for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a short singer, Yeah yeah, Aaron.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite color?
Speaker 6: If you know what? Funny enough? I love green. Emerald
Speaker 6: green is probably my favorite.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 6: I don't know why. It's it's just really pretty. Actually
Speaker 6: most of my I have a room in my house
Speaker 6: it's just painted green. Not like a bright, you know,
Speaker 6: awesome gecko green, but but a nice team bery green.
Speaker 3: What are your five favorite green things?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, okay, First on top of my head is Kermit
Speaker 6: because he's a classic Oscar ouch also classic. I don't
Speaker 6: know why. I'm just going with puppets.
Speaker 11: That's odd fair enough.
Speaker 6: Do you say green things just in general?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Green things? Or I guess green characters.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pickle somebody in chats of green apples. I really
Speaker 6: love greens.
Speaker 8: Have apples.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 3: We got pickles, apples, Oscar the Grouch and Kermit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so one more, one more. I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: go with trees. I love trees, some pretty all shapes
Speaker 6: of colors. I love nature.
Speaker 3: Beautiful.
Speaker 6: Right, that's some good. I thought that was solid.
Speaker 3: I thought that was solid too. I think you did
Speaker 3: a good job with that. You got, we got, there
Speaker 3: was a good mix of there was a good variety
Speaker 3: of characters. We got some foods in there, and then
Speaker 3: we got nature.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I started with a couple of puppets. Then I brought
Speaker 6: it back around to being normal. I think by the
Speaker 6: end there, well.
Speaker 3: Aaron, I think this was successful. This was if Look,
Speaker 3: if I had to you know, you did a good job.
Speaker 3: But Nate, I didn't think it was possible to do
Speaker 3: an actively not that one would do a bad I
Speaker 3: think it was possible to do an actively bad job either,
Speaker 3: but it was possible to do an actively good job
Speaker 3: at naming five green things.
Speaker 6: But I think you did it okay.
Speaker 3: I think you were on the spot.
Speaker 6: I felt pressure, but that's good and I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell I think that you. I think you
Speaker 3: handled that pressure perfectly.
Speaker 6: Oh perfect. Thanks, I want I got to come off tomove.
Speaker 3: Well, Aerin. Thank you for coming in and sharing your
Speaker 3: knowledge of green things with us. And uh, I'm glad
Speaker 3: to have you on the stream for the first time.
Speaker 3: I hope that. I hope you stick around.
Speaker 6: And yeah, hey, my happy life pleasure. Yeah, thanks talking
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 3: For sure, dude. I love you very much and I
Speaker 3: hope to see you soon and have a good rest
Speaker 3: of the night.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 6: You too, Man, I appreciate it. Take care, take care,
Speaker 6: all right bye.
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