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Speaker 3: Real real quick? Yeah, how quick?

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Speaker 3: No, how quick, real quick? How quick?

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Speaker 4: I wanted to know about the pickup deal?

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Speaker 6: Are you still doing the seven ninety nine pickup deal?

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Speaker 3: All right, here's what I'm gonna tell you're reading right now,

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Speaker 3: But are you prepared to after doing the bit, you know,

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Speaker 6: So the pizza.

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Speaker 3: It's I gave you an opportunity. I gave you a chance.

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Speaker 3: I gave you a crossroads. I gave you two options, Jay,

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Speaker 3: You could have done it. You could have done your bit.

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Speaker 3: I gave you an option in which we could.

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Speaker 7: I fucking compromised for you, Jay, and you didn't take it.

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Speaker 7: Why we both would have won in that scenario and

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Speaker 3: Why did you do that?

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Speaker 3: This is Lyle, this is the GEK. This is me

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Speaker 3: and I'm in my house and I'm recording an intro

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Speaker 3: to the Therapy Ecko podcast. You just heard what happens

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Speaker 3: when you try to prank call into the show. But

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Speaker 3: also it's fine. Look, I don't want to detract people

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Speaker 3: this is I'm very excited about this episode. Last week

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Speaker 3: What's your name, sir?

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Speaker 6: My name is Luke.

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Speaker 9: I counted arsen Like I don't know. It was complete

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Speaker 9: So but honestly, it's honestly kind of it's honestly kind

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Speaker 8: So Tesla went public in like twenty ten. So if

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Speaker 9: Can you prove it?

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Speaker 8: Now? I'm using circumstance evidence or not even circumstantial evidence,

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Speaker 8: I got to ask these questions.

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Speaker 3: Luke, I have a question, Joe.

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Speaker 9: What's that question?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 3: What is your relationship like with God?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 9: Every single day I wake up and I pray to

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Speaker 3: What do you think pissed got off more between the

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Speaker 9: Well, I don't think he knows what arson is.

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Speaker 3: You don't think God God invented arson. Have you not

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Speaker 9: I have, and I faintly remember it though I was

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Speaker 8: Just around the time when you started reading about Tesla.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, well Luke, uh you know, good luck.

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Speaker 3: Why do you say that, You know, because I.

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Speaker 6: You worried about me.

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about those around you.

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Speaker 9: I hope they're fine.

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Speaker 3: I hope they're fine.

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Speaker 6: To Luke, it should be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it looks. Stay safe and YouTube you don't

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Speaker 9: I'll try not too. Man, I'm gonna live for you.

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Speaker 9: Go by the way. I like your tie, Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I want attorney. I'm not gonna lie. You do need

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Speaker 8: Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: But thank you guys for all the advice. Honestly, what

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Speaker 9: And as for you, geta You look amazing today, man,

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Speaker 9: keep doing what you're doing. Thanks, Yeah for sure? All right,

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: Hi, do you think water's wet?

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Speaker 3: Do I think water is wet? Yes?

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Speaker 8: But why.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess Okay, So if something, if something gets

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Speaker 3: And if I get lile on something, is that thing liled?

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Speaker 3: But then would I be lyled if I'm made of lyle?

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Speaker 8: Water being wet is a temporary state. My argument would

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Speaker 8: Liquids can't be wet. Wet is a temporary condition when

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Speaker 3: Wait, Tom, if you pour water on water, it does

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Speaker 8: No, it doesn't, because you would. It's a liquid, so

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Speaker 14: Tack, Alex, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm doing all right, Alex.

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Speaker 14: So I got into some legal trouble with my girlfriend

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Speaker 6: Do not know.

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Speaker 8: What state are you? And Alex.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well, Alex, first of all, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 14: I did fight it.

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Speaker 8: Oh you did fight it. So you went to.

446
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Speaker 14: Tryal Yeah, I did. I went down there because he

447
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 14: wrote me a ticket for like being down there past dusk.

448
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 14: And so when you pull into the boat launch and

449
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 14: I went back the next day, and all the signs

450
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 14: are covered completely with sticker bushes, so you couldn't see

451
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Speaker 14: them anyway, So you couldn't read the signs that said

452
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Speaker 14: you couldn't be there. I mean, I believe there's so

453
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Speaker 14: long I know that you can't be there, But still

454
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 14: in ye eyes, right, well, technically you can't see the sign.

455
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Speaker 14: So I showed the pictures to the judge. She's like,

456
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Speaker 14: all right, reduced by half. I was like, okay, well whatever,

457
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 14: I have a clean record. Bit that's fine. So I

458
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 14: went back the next day after the trial and all

459
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Speaker 14: the strict buses were gone.

460
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Speaker 8: So having a sign is not outcome determinative, right, So

461
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Speaker 8: I mean, like, you know, I could go out into

462
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Speaker 8: you know, I don't know, like just a random street.

463
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Speaker 8: I could get in my car and go into parking

464
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Speaker 8: a random street or a random parking lot, and you

465
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Speaker 8: know that there's there doesn't need to be a sign

466
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Speaker 8: that says, you know, hey, by the way, no blow

467
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Speaker 8: jobs in this parking lot past nine pm or at all. Right,

468
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Speaker 8: So so I would just and I'm just guessing right

469
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Speaker 8: that the sign is not outcome determinative of what was happening.

470
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Speaker 8: It was more just that what like you for for

471
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Speaker 8: all you know, you you could have been in your

472
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Speaker 8: own driveway doing that and still got in that same

473
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Speaker 8: ticket just because you were in public, in the public view,

474
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Speaker 8: and there is that you know, it's just an indecent

475
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Speaker 8: indecency argument.

476
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Speaker 6: I gotcha.

477
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Speaker 14: So my next question is what is your if let's

478
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Speaker 14: say you get a ticket of any sort. What is

479
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 14: the best things to say to the judge when you

480
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 14: go to fight it.

481
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Speaker 8: Well, it just depends right on how much evidence they have.

482
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 8: Let me, let's back up a little bit. The best

483
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 8: The best thing you can do is when you are

484
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Speaker 8: getting a ticket, the second that you were getting pulled

485
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 8: over for anything, you need to shut the fuck up

486
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 8: it is. That is rule number one. The officer comes

487
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 8: to your window, they say, pull out your ID. You

488
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 8: pull out your ID because you have to identify yourself. Again,

489
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 8: I'm a Texas lawyer. I assume that's true for every state.

490
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 8: You know, if you don't identify yourself, you're probably gonna

491
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 8: get in trouble. I feel safe saying that that's pretty unanimous.

492
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 8: Then they're gonna ask you a bunch of questions. They're

493
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Speaker 8: gonna try to get under your skin. You're gonna say, officer,

494
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about my day, officer, you know, Or hey, hey,

495
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 8: hey Tom, do you know why I pulled you over? No, officer,

496
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 8: I don't know why you pulled me over, Nor am

497
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 8: I gonna guess. I'm not gonna give you any evidence.

498
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna give you anything. I want you to

499
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 8: tell me everything. I'm not gonna be talking about my day.

500
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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna tell you who I'm with respectfully. Of

501
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: course you don't need to be a dick to them,

502
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 8: but you know, you just say officer respectfully. Uh, just

503
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 8: just tell me what you need from me and if

504
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 8: I'm free to go, great, if not. So that that's

505
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 8: how you can set yourself up best, because a lot

506
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 8: of times police officers will pull you over for something

507
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 8: very minor and then end up walking away with something

508
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 8: much worse because you just were running your damn mouth,

509
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 8: you know.

510
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 12: Uh.

511
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Speaker 8: And police officers quite frankly, deal with a lot of people,

512
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Speaker 8: and if you're respectful and you're quiet it, they'll forget

513
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 8: you by the time the court date comes. You know,

514
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 8: the court date's not going to be for months, so

515
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 8: if you're respectful and quiet, you don't. But but they

516
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 8: go out of their way to remember the people who

517
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 8: cause them trouble, right, and they'll make sure they show

518
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 8: up to court for them. So so that's how you

519
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 8: set the stage correctly. And then when you go in

520
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 8: front of the judge, you know it's just gonna depend

521
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 8: you know, how they might have crystal clear evidence that

522
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 8: you're guilty. They might not, but it's just being respectful

523
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 8: and doing all that stuff. And if you can, I

524
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 8: always recommend hiring a lawyer. I mean, lawyers are there

525
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 8: to navigate all all of that. You know that that

526
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 8: that the legal process. So that's kind of my tips.

527
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 8: There's no cure, all right, there's no magic way to

528
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 8: get out of every ticket. If there was, I would

529
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 8: let you know. But you know, it's just about setting

530
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: yourself out, Yeah, setting yourself up for the most probable

531
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Speaker 8: chance of success.

532
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Speaker 14: It's very good advice.

533
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are you going to do now?

534
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 14: What am I going to do now? I guess not

535
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 14: get blow jobs underneath the bridge anymore, that's the first thing.

536
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: But uh, there's thats one places you can get blow jobs, Alex.

537
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 8: Well, you won't get a ticket.

538
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: Where you won't get a ticket where you can get

539
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: one safely, safely.

540
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know, I know a lot of spots around here.

541
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Speaker 6: Don't worry.

542
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: Oh, we're not worried about you at all, Alex.

543
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 8: Just just for the for the listeners at home who

544
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 8: might be concerned that under a bridge is the only

545
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 8: place where you can get a blow job. There are

546
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 8: other there are other avenues there are other places.

547
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: This is why we do This is why we have

548
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: conversations like this to let and important information such as

549
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: that into the open.

550
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 14: Yes, people need this cheaper to learn from other's mistakes.

551
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much for calling in, Alex. And uh,

552
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, sharing your extra paids and you know, look

553
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: stay safe out that right, and you know write down

554
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: a list of five other places so that you have

555
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 3: it on hand when you need a place to go

556
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: to get a blowjob. That's not a bridge ten for

557
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Speaker 3: Thank you sir, Take care Alex.

558
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 14: A y all a good night.

559
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Can fire be on fire?

560
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 8: But what is? But but you wouldn't fire is not

561
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 8: a property?

562
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 9: Right?

563
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 8: I mean something can be wet? Oh, I guess something

564
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 8: can be on fire? Right, something can be burning?

565
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 3: Can fire burn be? Can fire be burning?

566
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: Of course? Well? But isn't that? But but what is

567
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 8: it burning? That's the thing is fire is a temporary condition.

568
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 8: Water can stay water forever with no but fire needs

569
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 8: energy to consume, right, It's getting that energy from somewhere,

570
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 8: whether that's wood or propane or whatever. Fire is not

571
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 8: the natural state. Water is a natural state as a liquid.

572
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 8: And then.

573
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Speaker 3: Can water burn?

574
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 8: I mean in theory, right, water boils and it evaporates.

575
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 8: Is lava wet? What about an? What about that's kind

576
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 8: of an in between? Is lava wet?

577
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: I thought lava was like melted, What the hell is lava?

578
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 8: But lava is a liquid, right, I mean just floating

579
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 8: around in the volcano. But it's wet. But is it wet?

580
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 8: But it's not. It wouldn't be wet under that definition

581
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 8: because it's a liquid. But could lava get if I

582
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 8: poured lava on the table? Is the table wet? But

583
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 8: also it's gonna catch on fire because the lava is

584
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 8: the lava is gonna burn it.

585
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: I do like that quote, Hello, Hello, Hello.

586
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 6: Is this Lyle?

587
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 9: Yeah?

588
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: Gek fucking a. I'm watching the stream right now and

589
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: it's not lined up with what's happening on my phone.

590
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: So this is very interesting.

591
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 12: Wow.

592
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: I need to leave this area of the computer. Yeah,

593
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 4: I don't know how to. I don't know how.

594
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: I want you to your computer, and I want you

595
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: to go somewhere far away, and I want you to

596
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: pretend like you're on a private phone conversation with a

597
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: gecko and an attorney who does pol advice and is

598
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: not your attorney.

599
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 6: Wow.

600
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: But usually is a therapist.

601
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: This is this is surreal.

602
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something, Scott. Yeah, have you ever

603
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: been in trouble?

604
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: Oh god, my whole life has been nothing but trouble,

605
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: nothing but trouble. When I was I don't know sixteen,

606
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: pulled over driving a car with a license and I

607
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: hadn't even taken the test at that point, I was

608
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: just fucking the squirrel who had a car, and that

609
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: just led to a slew of issues for years to come.

610
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 6: But that's okay.

611
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: You know, the government exists for some reasons. Do I

612
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: agree or do we agree?

613
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Why it exists?

614
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: And what they do to us for the things that

615
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: we do on the road or at home and shit

616
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: like that.

617
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Who cares?

618
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: It's beyond us the law, The law and exists, and

619
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: I try to live my life as if it's just

620
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 4: not there. How about you?

621
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Speaker 8: So you do? But but then you do care, right,

622
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 8: And you can't say that, oh, because if you live

623
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 8: your life the laws don't exist. They you you get

624
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 8: consequences like getting pulled over when you don't have a

625
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 8: license in it and the repercussions.

626
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, all of those repercussions I've been dealing

627
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: with for years Oh yeah.

628
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 8: What's your what's your what's your theoretical stance on governance?

629
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 8: You know, what is what is the perfect form of government?

630
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think we can all agree, no

631
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 4: matter who we are, that there has to be some

632
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: general senses of how to act amongst each other. But

633
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: it is not in my nature to really and invoke

634
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: my life onto anybody else's. Like, I don't think. I

635
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: think government should be minimalistic, and I think democracy has

636
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: taken a slight dive in the last hundred years. And

637
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: I just want everyone to be happy, no matter what

638
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: they're doing. I want I want nobody to impede on

639
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: their happiness, and I want us all to just live cohesively.

640
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: But do you know what makes go ahead?

641
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Speaker 8: But what happens when they're a bad actor? You can't

642
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 8: you can't just like that sounds like a perfect world. No, no, no, nogue.

643
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 8: On some of these rights, how how do you need

644
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 8: somebody to step in and be the enforcer of laws?

645
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: Well, and I know this is probably going to catch

646
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: some flack, but I chair you know, I'm twenty seven.

647
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: I'll be twenty eight in January. I'm a younger dude,

648
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 4: But and I was not around for the times when

649
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 4: pretty much everyone who was a man carried a gun,

650
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: and lawmen were far into in between, and if you

651
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: had an issue with somebody that really demanded an action,

652
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: you would take care of it yourself. I feel like

653
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: society as a whole has diverted towards a world where

654
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: we rely too much or too heavily on somebody who

655
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: was too far away to take action for us.

656
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Speaker 8: What does that mean, rely on yourself? I mean, cann't

657
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 8: you use that as an excuse for everything. Don't you

658
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 8: need a neutral arbitrator. I've never seen an incident where

659
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 8: both parts where one party says they were completely at fault.

660
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 8: You know what happens if two people get into a fight.

661
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 8: One person crabs the other and it was really the

662
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 8: you know, it was really the guy who who shots fault,

663
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Speaker 8: you know. But but then he's just gonna say, yeah,

664
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Speaker 8: I was just defending myself or whatever. You just you're

665
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 8: leading there. There needs to be a big brother, big

666
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 8: sister in some capacity, surely. I mean, if you really

667
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 8: you rely on everybody's word and goodness, I agree with you.

668
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: I agree with you, you know, and that's why I

669
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: say I relish the days that are long pass where

670
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: you know the law exists, but it didn't impede on

671
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: your daily life as heavily as it does today. Obviously,

672
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: if you kill somebody out of just then you should

673
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: be taken to justice, and justice should be sure, should

674
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 4: be but.

675
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: Life go ahead? What what law? What if you could

676
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: get rid of any laws? What laws would you get

677
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: rid of?

678
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, uh, pretty much every traffic law. Being able

679
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: to distill your own whiskey. I'm literally looking at barrels

680
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: of whiskey.

681
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: I you said you would get rid of all traffic laws.

682
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: Drink I think.

683
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: I think speeding is as stupid and you should be

684
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: able to go as fast as you want. We're all

685
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: adults here. If you go too fast and you kill yourself,

686
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: natural selection is going to go ahead and take course,

687
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: and looking.

688
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 8: At you kill somebody else.

689
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: Honestly, again, natural selection will take hold and either you're

690
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: gonna die, you're.

691
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 8: For everybody you could be. I could be a PhD

692
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 8: smartest guy in the world driving safely. Yeah, goes one

693
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 8: hundred and twenty miles per hour, swerves, flies over the

694
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 8: medianning kills me. That's not a natural selection.

695
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 7: You know.

696
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 4: I've been I've been driving eighty miles an hour in

697
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 4: the fast plane after I just sotle the grammar DMP

698
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: to some guys, happy as can be that I had

699
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars in my wallet, smoking a joint with

700
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: a girl next to me, and then here comes some

701
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: headlights toward me in my lane that I had to

702
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: casually swerve to miss. And you know what, the thirty

703
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: plus cops on the other side of the highway chasing

704
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: the guy who was on my side of the highway.

705
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: They weren't going to do dick for me if he

706
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: hit me, you know what I mean? Like, I took

707
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: care of that situation the.

708
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Same way anyone else should you.

709
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: If you were too lazy to say your own life,

710
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: well then I'm sorry.

711
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 8: But wouldn't you agree that the more instances there were,

712
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 8: the more statistically probable, Like like if you relate that

713
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 8: if you replayed that same situation one hundred times, you

714
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 8: might have gotten to an accident five percent of god,

715
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 8: maybe ten percent of the time.

716
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: I think I probably would have gone through an accident

717
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the time.

718
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 8: That's great, m.

719
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: Scott, what's your.

720
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: Fun I think yield signs are more effective I've lived

721
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: in I live in Texas and their neighborhoods around here

722
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: where you come to a four way stop and it's

723
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 4: a yield instead of a stop. So if you don't

724
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: see anybody and you can, you're free to go ahead

725
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: and cruise on through that fourway. But if you do

726
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: what is necessary, you stop and let the person left

727
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: you go first.

728
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 8: Would you would you agree that not all people have

729
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 8: the same driving abilities?

730
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: Oh God, yes, and that's and and then you agree?

731
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 8: Wouldn't you agree that you know they're they're they're that

732
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 8: at some level? Mm hmm, everybody deserves the ability to drive,

733
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 8: to transport themselves, to conduct their daily freedoms.

734
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: Okay, well yes and no. And the no is probably

735
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: the hardest part, because I feel like that freedom kind

736
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: of gets muted at a certain age. Would you agree?

737
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: I feel like some people at a certain age can drive.

738
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: But where I'm from, I don't think you have to

739
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: take your driving test for every lie. I don't think

740
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: you have to take your driving test ever again. Once

741
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: you take it, you just you're good, and you just

742
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: get it renewed and then that's it. But there are

743
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: some older people out there who want to rely on

744
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: themselves to do the things they need to do in life,

745
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: but they might not be the best drivers, and they

746
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: might be a little stubborn about it, and that is rough,

747
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: you know. And I think we've all seen the episode

748
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: of Futurama where they put all the old people on

749
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: a planet because at a certain point, you just get

750
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 4: to be a burden. And I want to go eighty

751
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: miles an hour on the highway and I don't want

752
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: to be impeded by the people going sixty five on

753
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: the fast Land.

754
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 8: But you're kind of your argument doesn't really make sense.

755
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 8: I you know, somebody with your stance on no driving

756
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 8: laws should say, yeah, why everybody should be able to drive?

757
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: Right?

758
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 8: I mean, how do you make.

759
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 4: I guess I spoke to to audaciously when I said

760
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: no driving laws. I mean, I feel like there's a

761
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: there's a okay, okay, well if I if there are

762
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: no driving laws, nobody would go drive because the only

763
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: thing that you and I rely on every day when

764
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 4: we go out and drive is the fact that those

765
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: yellow fucking stripes in the road are the only thing

766
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: keeping us alive, because if I ripes, I'm gonna kill you.

767
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: And that's that. So there's a there's a certain moral

768
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: ethical code on the road amongst all of us that

769
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: this is how we drive, and if somebody's going faster,

770
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: you get out of the way, or if there's an

771
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 4: emergency vehicle come in, you pull over.

772
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 6: You know, just these things that keep society flowing.

773
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 4: But I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: All these towns, I'm apologetic about this, but all of

775
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: these talents around America that just that just butcher people

776
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: for going a little too fast and just raking all

777
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: this money unethically.

778
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 11: I think it's wrong.

779
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 8: But but wouldn't you agree that if millions of people

780
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 8: are on the road today, you need some form of

781
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 8: cohesive structure because if you leave everybody just to just

782
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 8: to go Audubond style in Audubon.

783
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 4: But but if you go at the statistics for the Audubon,

784
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're they're very opaque. I mean, nobody

785
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: killing themselves.

786
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 8: They're right, I get it right there. But but there

787
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 8: are lanes, you know, there's etiquette, there's I.

788
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 4: Don't want to be road warrior. I just want no

789
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: tickets pretty much. Listen, I feel like this is taking

790
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: away from the whole point of what I called the

791
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: day like, I feel like this is a relish moment

792
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: that I need to take in, and you guys are

793
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: so important. Go ahead, what happened?

794
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: I want to hear you say that that.

795
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: Exists for a reason.

796
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: Can you say that lanes? That's important to have lanes?

797
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 5: Oh?

798
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely, If we didn't have lanes, we'd be all over

799
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: the place. Listen, you're getting too caught up on the fact.

800
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: I don't want traffic blogs. I just don't want and

801
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: find your ass for going a little too fast.

802
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: What state do you live in so that I know there,

803
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: I'll just walk.

804
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 4: I live in Texas, where we can go eighty miles

805
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: an hour on some roads, and if no one's around,

806
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: you can just go ninety and it's totally okay because

807
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: you're not hurting anybody, and you don't want to hurt anybody.

808
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: You just want to get through this massive state that's

809
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: three times the size of yours a little bit faster.

810
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 4: When I go to Colorado to buy weed where it's

811
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: legal to bring home here where it's not, I have

812
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: to obey that the traffic laws. Coming back to I

813
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: don't want to get pulled over again, and I don't

814
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: want to have to pay new Mexico a bunch of

815
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: fucking money just for going a little too fast. We're

816
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 4: just ten miles up the road. It was eighty miles

817
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: an hour, and it would have been leading.

818
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: Because it's legal to buy a weed in Colorado, it's

819
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: not legal to take that weed into Texas.

820
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: Nope, not at all.

821
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: And you're upset that you can't break the law.

822
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: I feel like prohibition, you know, needs to end. And

823
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: that's okay. I'm not again. I don't look at the

824
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: law as anything that really affects my daily life. I

825
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: just kind of live my life the best I can,

826
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: treat people the best I can.

827
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no.

828
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 7: You opened the call by saying that on a daily basis,

829
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 7: the laws affect your life.

830
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 4: Uh. You asked me if I had ever been in trouble.

831
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: I said that. I. I mean I trouble follows me everywhere.

832
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 8: Man.

833
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: I just whatever, you deal with it, like you deal

834
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: with anything, you you learn from it and then you

835
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: try to be wiser and move forward and not do

836
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 4: that again. But that's okay, you know, if you if

837
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: you if none of us had ever been in trouble,

838
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: I feel like none of us ever really would have

839
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: learned anything substantial.

840
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: You know what a beautiful lesson for Oh come.

841
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: On, I mean, what what what?

842
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 8: What?

843
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 4: What troubles have you gone in where you were? Just like, man,

844
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: that was a lot of work for from not a

845
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 4: lot of reward and a lot of hassle. I should

846
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: probably just not do that again. I mean, I feel

847
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: like we all do that every day.

848
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: What'd you say? Your name was my name of Adam?

849
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: First man?

850
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 3: Well Adam, thank you for for calling in this informative

851
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: what no, what do you what do you mean?

852
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 9: Dang?

853
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: We got this was a we did a we got

854
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: oh fift we got a good fifteen minutes.

855
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 4: Wow, that just I mean, you know the old thing.

856
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: Time flies and they're having fun.

857
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: I love you, Scott. I'll talk to you soon.

858
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: Oh man, I love the hell out of you, and

859
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: I love everyone who's listening. And again I'm not a

860
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: bad person. I just wanted to be able to go faster.

861
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 4: So you have a really great night. Oh wait before

862
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: you go, before you go, hey, can I ask you something, Lyle?

863
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: How are you doing today?

864
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm doing?

865
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 11: All right?

866
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 13: That's good.

867
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that you enter it the same

868
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: way every time. Now, I get the whole shield this time.

869
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 4: That's okay. So you have a good night, man, Thank

870
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: you you too later, I love you goodbye.

871
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 8: That was interesting.

872
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: So Tom, what do you think should we should it

873
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: be legal to kill people with your car?

874
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 8: Now?

875
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: Maddie to accept press one.

876
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 10: Maddie, Oh my god, Hello, hello Maddie.

877
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: How are you hi?

878
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 6: O good?

879
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 10: I'm really happy to say answered.

880
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy that I that you called.

881
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 12: Thank you?

882
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 10: Oh my good. I see people saying my name in

883
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 10: the chat. I did actually have a legal problem, I guess.

884
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 10: And I don't want to go with like, I don't

885
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 10: want to try to make the conversation super deep. But

886
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 10: I was just wondering because I used to work for

887
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Speaker 10: this restaurant or whatever, like a local one, and oh wait,

888
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 10: am I allotted to cut? Like is that okay?

889
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you can cuss?

890
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 5: Okay?

891
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 10: Well, they were like really rude to me, like they

892
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 10: were just assholes, Like I they were h tech. I'm eighteen.

893
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 10: But I was just wondering, is can I actually get

894
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 10: into legal trouble for hacking their Instagram account and turning

895
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 10: it into making the Stallion Shanny count.

896
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: Yes, hacking Who's Instagram account? You're the companies or your coworker,

897
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: the restaurants listen.

898
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 8: I don't know what state you're in. And this isn't

899
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 8: legal advice. I have to tell you that every time,

900
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 8: everybody that every time you can get in trouble for

901
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 8: hacking anybody's Instagram account that's not your own. And yes,

902
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 8: even if.

903
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 10: It's just like like how could they catch me? Though,

904
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 10: like is it really that big of a deal.

905
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 8: I mean, everybody says how can they catch me? Until

906
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 8: they get caught? I don't.

907
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

908
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe maybe somebody from the restaurants watching a stream

909
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 8: involving a therapy gecko and they recognize your voice and

910
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 8: then when the incident happens, they know who it was.

911
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 10: You know, I don't know, but I think like they

912
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 10: deserve it morally.

913
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: Stallion already has an Instagram.

914
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 8: But that's a great lile. This is a great this

915
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 8: is a great question that you might need to chime

916
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 8: in on. Moral does not always mean legal. There are

917
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 8: there are some things that are legal, but they might

918
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 8: very well be a moral and there are a lot

919
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 8: of historical examples of that. Reality is is right now?

920
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 8: You know it is legal or illegal? I should say

921
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 8: for you to pursue your your desire to change hack

922
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 8: into an Instagram account that does not belong to you.

923
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 10: Change what I want to really call it un hacking,

924
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 10: Like it's not really hacking, it's just you, like you

925
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 10: put if they don't have to affect their authentic authentification

926
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 10: or whatever, you can just like put in a different

927
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 10: email and then change the passwords. Is what some person

928
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 10: told me. I asked somebody to help me with it.

929
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: Why does it matter if it's not hacking, you're still

930
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: you're achieving the same ends.

931
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, well I guess Yeah, why why are you mad

932
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 10: at these people?

933
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 6: Again?

934
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 10: Well, I just like I had like I don't know,

935
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 10: I just really didn't I don't know, I don't want

936
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 10: to get too deep into it, but uh, there was

937
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 10: like definitely like they were just assholes. Like I don't know,

938
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 10: there's so much those months, but there was like inappropriate

939
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 10: touching from the boss who was like fifty and I

940
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 10: just like I just have always just like hated them.

941
00:54:53,960 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 8: And yeah, yeah, okay, if that's true, I think you

942
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 8: need to go talk to a local employment lawyer. Right. So,

943
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 8: of course bosses cannot take advantage of their employees or

944
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 8: touch them inappropriately. That's completely outrageous and creates a bad

945
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 8: work environment. And I'm not I'm just switching gears. Just

946
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 8: for a little side note. It is possible for there

947
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 8: to be bad work environments that aren't illegal per se.

948
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 8: Like just it's part of life. I deal with jerks

949
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 8: every day, you know, you know, I you know that's different.

950
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 8: But if you are legitimately sexually harassed, that is beyond

951
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 8: just being a bad workplace, that is a unsafe, un

952
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 8: you know, illegal manner. And you know, if your trust me,

953
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 8: your revenge would be much better suit did in the

954
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 8: form of a legal action. And the people who handle

955
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 8: those type of issues are employment lawyers. So I would

956
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 8: go onto Google. I would just google employment lawyer. Google

957
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 8: will match you to wherever you know, state or city

958
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 8: you're in and just go talk to them. Usually it's

959
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 8: free consultation and they'll tell you whether or not it's legit,

960
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 8: and hopefully whoever did that to you is held accountable,

961
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 8: the restaurants held accountable for having a uh environment where

962
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 8: that's allowed or tolerated. But but, but I would advise

963
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 8: strongly against the original game plan of hacking their accounts.

964
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 8: That is the wrong way to go about me.

965
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, I'm.

966
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 8: Going to write that down employee lawyers, employment lawyer.

967
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 5: Yes right.

968
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 3: Also, you know, look it's more effective too, because the

969
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: heck they're just going to change back their Instagram. You know,

970
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know, achieve any real change or

971
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: get back on them in any sort of meaningful way

972
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: that doesn't also bite back at you.

973
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 5: You know.

974
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true. I was just like annoyed, and you

975
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 10: feel like I could actually do anything about it, just

976
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 10: wanted to, I guess, mess with them. So yeah, that's right.

977
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well Maddie, Uh look, I hope that you I

978
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: hope that you're able to solve this in a you know,

979
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: through the system, in a meaningful way, as opposed to

980
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: creating another Megan thee Stallion Instagram account.

981
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, absolutely.

982
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: You take care, Mattie, Thank you for calling in you too.

983
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: Where do you think we go when we die? Tom?

984
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

985
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 8: All I know is I want to be shot off

986
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 8: in space.

987
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: Hell.

988
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 8: Yes, hopefully Elon Musk will have some sort of product

989
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 8: by that time.

990
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: Get some space attorneys. Yeah, hey, Lyle again not on

991
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: the stream, but in my sad little basement. Recording for

992
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: the podcast. I just wanted to say shout out to

993
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: Attorney Tom. Guys go follow him on Twitch and TikTok.

994
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: He's just one word, Attorney Tom. He was awesome. Shout

995
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Speaker 3: out to him. There's more coming soon, so stick around.

996
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Speaker 3: We got a whole second half. I also just wanted

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Speaker 3: If you guys want to support the show, hop on that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing Patreon only live streams. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: merch benefits coming soon for some of the other tears. Anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, So I don't usually comment on the calls,

1009
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: but I will say this. This next call was a

1010
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: little bit I got. I feel like I got a

1011
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: little bit more serious than I usually am. So I

1012
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: figured i'd mention that while I'm here anyway. You know what,

1013
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: I'll just I'll let the calls speak for themselves. I'll

1014
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: get out of here, all right. I love you guys.

1015
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of the episode. Talk to you soon.

1016
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: Home from Riley to accept Press.

1017
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 15: One, Riley, Riley, Riley, Riley.

1018
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: Hello, Briley, are you watching the stream right now?

1019
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1020
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: Can you do a favor?

1021
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: Wait?

1022
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 3: What can you turn the stream off?

1023
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 11: Yeah? It is off.

1024
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 9: What are you doing?

1025
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: What are you doing right now?

1026
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 11: Sitting here drinking beer?

1027
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: Have you ever lied? Riley?

1028
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 11: Yeah? Definitely about what That's where it gets complicated.

1029
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: Why is it complicated?

1030
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 11: Well, let's just say most of my entire life has

1031
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 11: been a lie.

1032
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: How has most of your entire life been a lie?

1033
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 11: All right? Well, kind of one of I'm kind of

1034
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 11: trams to begin with, Okay, but I have to hide

1035
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 11: it so I can do my job. Really, yeah, I

1036
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 11: had to for a long time, and I'm known for

1037
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 11: a long time. That's actually what I called you because

1038
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 11: my last therapist actually ended up taking our own life,

1039
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 11: you know what I mean?

1040
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, Well, I do have to tell you

1041
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: I am not a real therapist or in any way,

1042
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: shape or form even remotely qualified to be a therapist

1043
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: or even give advice or do anything of any kind

1044
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: in any of that sense.

1045
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 11: However, I know that I just want to have a

1046
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 11: conversation with somebody I can actually talk to about it.

1047
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: Well, what's your job?

1048
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 11: Well, I'm a musician for a living.

1049
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: Why why why why can't you be openly trans as a.

1050
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 11: Musician Because in the South things are not still that great.

1051
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: Like in the like specifically in the music scene.

1052
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 11: That you're in pretty much, yeah, in the areas like

1053
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 11: unless you're like a lot of the money if you're not,

1054
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 11: like you know, making a bunch of money off your

1055
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 11: own music is going through the cover circuit, you know,

1056
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 11: where you're going to play at bars and restaurants and

1057
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 11: stuff like that. And in certain areas in the country

1058
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 11: still there's there's still a lot of people that you know,

1059
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 11: I've heard it before where you know, we love your

1060
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 11: music but sound great, but people just wouldn't be comfortable

1061
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 11: with someone like you. Here. You go back three months later,

1062
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 11: not looking that way anymore, and then foom, you get

1063
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 11: the job.

1064
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: Where Texas are you?

1065
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 11: Well, not in Texas, but a little more towards the east.

1066
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: Did you ever say where you were.

1067
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 11: No I'm not really going to give my exact state.

1068
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: Sure you don't have to. Is there a reason why

1069
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: you don't want to move and go somewhere else?

1070
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 11: Money? I've I've ended up homeless before, I've lived out

1071
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 11: of my cards. Some of the worst experiences ever, like

1072
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 11: to wake up freaking you know, in ninety five degree car?

1073
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: Do you live? Do you live with the parents?

1074
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 6: Now?

1075
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 11: No, I live on my own. I'm able to make

1076
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 11: my own I was making I was able to make

1077
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 11: a pretty good living before all the craziness of the world.

1078
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?

1079
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: It's like, could you not could you not find a

1080
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: place in I mean you don't it? Could you not

1081
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: find a place like? I mean, like you don't have

1082
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: to move to like New York City to find to

1083
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: find a place where like you could feel comfortable being

1084
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: open to trans but like, could you find a place

1085
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: that is less hostile to trans people that you could

1086
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: afford to live in that is similarly priced? Is where

1087
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: you currently live?

1088
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 11: Where it's like still somewhere Well? That's another thing is

1089
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 11: like in this industry, it's all networking. So if you

1090
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 11: don't know anybody, you go somewhere completely new, you have

1091
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 11: to start from the ground up. Again, you're throwing years

1092
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 11: of you know, networking out the window, so I like,

1093
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 11: I'm a mile away.

1094
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 5: Sorry.

1095
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: Do you mainly make your money from from bar and restaurants.

1096
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Speaker 11: Most of it? Yeah, the primary bulk.

1097
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: Are you do you do any independent music or are

1098
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 3: you mainly just to cover cover music.

1099
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 11: Not do independent music too?

1100
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 5: How deep?

1101
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 11: It's kind of like psychedelic blues rock wi jazz influenced.

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Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with like the very music scenes or anything,

1103
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: but I mean I feel like you could find I mean,

1104
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: are you adverse to, like it's so fucking different with

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Speaker 3: the fucking pandemic, but like, are you adverse to trying

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: to find a city that has like a solid scene

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: for your genre that is, you know, more welcoming of

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01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, and and progressive area.

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1110
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 11: Absolutely, But that's where like I've met a few people

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 11: that you know, are in some pretty you know, big

1112
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 11: internationally touring bands, and they're always telling me, like, move

1113
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 11: to New York, And I'm like, I would love that

1114
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 11: because Los Angeles is where more of the you know,

1115
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 11: let's people go there to play, they go there and

1116
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 11: do more of the technical side of things, like movies,

1117
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 11: and production and stuff like that. In New York's where

1118
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 11: a lot of musicians will go and they're like, they

1119
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 11: would love you there. You doesn't matter who you are

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 11: there as long as you just play good music. But

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 11: that's where it's like, how do you go about especially

1122
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 11: when you're you know, I'm not saying I make a

1123
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 11: bunch of money. I was able to support myself before

1124
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 11: all this stuff was going down, but now it's like, okay,

1125
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 11: barely even scraping by. So it's like, how do you

1126
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 11: just you know, run away for all that when you

1127
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 11: barely have enough to even go off of. But at

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Speaker 11: the same time, it's like that's just long story short.

1129
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 11: I've the whole end the closet out of the closet thing.

1130
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 11: I've done that like five times.

1131
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: Is I mean, how how is it something that you're like,

1132
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 3: is this like a thing that's like actively taking a

1133
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: toll on you constantly having to like hide who you

1134
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: are and like in the clart out of the closet.

1135
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 11: Very it's it's brought on a serious drinking problem.

1136
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: How old are you? Can I ask you?

1137
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 6: Old you?

1138
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 11: Twenty seven?

1139
01:06:51,960 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 3: Twenty seven? Yeah, I'm I'm trying to I want I

1140
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: want to break down why you can't move.

1141
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 11: All right? Well, I mean that's there's a lot of

1142
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 11: factors to that, because A where do you go if

1143
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 11: you have no one that you're you know, you know there,

1144
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 11: if you have no connections there, then first off, you

1145
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 11: just got to have the money saved up to go

1146
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 11: ahead and get a place.

1147
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 3: Who was that touring band that you talked to?

1148
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 11: Some of them would be like Air Candlebox, and then

1149
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 11: there was uh, what was it the producer for Steve Miller.

1150
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 11: He was a he was a cool guy.

1151
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: Can I ask like, have you to see to me

1152
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: like you know I have. I'm happy to talk this

1153
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: stuff through with you, But to me, if this is

1154
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: something where like I would, I'd fucking literally go on

1155
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: like Twitter or Reddit, or I would find transgender musicians

1156
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: in New York who are like not that big, and

1157
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: I would like reach out to them on Instagram or

1158
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: Twitter and just be like, how are you doing this

1159
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 3: right now? Like do you give any advice? Like I like,

1160
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: this is something that I feel like you could find

1161
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 3: people to talk it through with that would have like

1162
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 3: practical advice that I would not. Does that make sense?

1163
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1164
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 11: I guess I just wanted to get someone else's opinion

1165
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 11: on this. Is it better to I guess my philosophy

1166
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 11: has always been that is it better to do what

1167
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 11: you have to do to survive and it be something

1168
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 11: that you enjoy? Would you rather be yourself? And so basically,

1169
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 11: would you rather enjoy what you do out in the

1170
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 11: world or be happy with your own internal world. It's

1171
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 11: kind of like a decision I've had to make all

1172
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 11: these years, and I always have chosen that I don't

1173
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 11: have to look in a mirror every day. That's a

1174
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 11: decision that you have to make. But going out and

1175
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 11: doing something and making money to survive is it's a definite.

1176
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 11: So I'd rather go out do something that I love

1177
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 11: then go and do something that I despise doing. But

1178
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 11: at the same it's it's really complicated, But.

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 3: Why why are you? Why? Why are well? Why is

1180
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 3: that your only two options? Why can't you Why isn't

1181
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: there a are you completely hopeless to find a situation

1182
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 3: in which you can be out and also playing.

1183
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 11: Music slightly mainly just because of a lot of the

1184
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 11: experiences I've had in the past and that have made

1185
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 11: it to where it's like I kind of just fear

1186
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 11: it now. It's it's complicated, it's tough, and it's not

1187
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 11: something that you know. It's not like I can understand

1188
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 11: you have it either, And I never wish of this

1189
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 11: on my my worst enemy. But at the same time,

1190
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 11: it's like I'd rather, I'd rather do what I love,

1191
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 11: and that's to play music. But at the same time, yes,

1192
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 11: if I could have both, I definitely would, And that's

1193
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 11: kind of the goal. I'm losing my house in a

1194
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 11: few weeks due to the whole pandemic, and I'm getting

1195
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 11: a cheap room at the friend's house out here for

1196
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 11: about six months, and my whole plan is to save

1197
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 11: up as much as I can, and that way I

1198
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 11: can kind of sit there and go, all right, what's next.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good I think that's a good

1200
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: plan to try to save up some money.

1201
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 9: To move.

1202
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're getting kind of double fucked because

1203
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: you know, live music is, you know, on a downward

1204
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 3: How hard are you going at?

1205
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 8: Like?

1206
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: Can I can I call you? Dude? You do?

1207
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: I never?

1208
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure get how hard are

1209
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: you going at? Like? So okay, Well, first of all,

1210
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: someone in the chat was saying it started echoing what

1211
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 3: I was saying, which is, like, you know, there's probably subreddit.

1212
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: There's probably subreddits of like you know, there are like

1213
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: definitely people on the same journey as you, possibly even

1214
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: you know, close fit proximity, closer to you than you

1215
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: would think. I would go on Reddit, and I would

1216
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 3: go on Twitter, and I would like find other trans

1217
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: artists and like ask them for their advice, even if

1218
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 3: they're like, even if they're similarly hopeless to you, might

1219
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: and they don't have like a solution for you, you

1220
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: might feel like some solidarity there, or you might make

1221
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,440
Speaker 3: you feel less alone about it if you feel alone.

1222
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 11: About it true, you know. Else, I guess one of

1223
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 11: my other plans is to try and maybe start streaming

1224
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 11: while doing like being more of myself.

1225
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 5: You know, and my.

1226
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: Like that this is this is fucking another fucking and

1227
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm learning this.

1228
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 15: This is.

1229
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: I know that we don't have fucking comparable situations, but

1230
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 3: I really do believe that you will be rewarded for

1231
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: being yourself because what happened is if you what I'm

1232
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: trying to say, how hard have you been going at

1233
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: like putting your music out on the internet and like

1234
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: streaming on like Urpan or TikTok or anything.

1235
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 11: Like that, barely any at all because I've always been

1236
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 11: afraid to do any of that stuff.

1237
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 3: But I think and and look, you know, you're fun of.

1238
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,440
Speaker 11: People because you can see them. You can see the reactions.

1239
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 11: You can deal with the reactions in person on streams

1240
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 11: on the internet. This place is wild Man West out here.

1241
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 3: But dude, there are there are sort of like how

1242
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: I was saying, like and these like subways, there are

1243
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: other like trans artists out there. They're like fucking trans

1244
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: people all over the place that would love that. Would

1245
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: like if you came in you had like your story

1246
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 3: and you went on TikTok and you if you went

1247
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: on TikTok and you made a TikTok video about like

1248
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm an artist, here's my story. I tried to you

1249
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: literally just told the story that you have told us.

1250
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 3: People would connect with that story and they would want

1251
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 3: to follow you, and they would want to listen to

1252
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: your music. And I'm not gonna say that's gonna like

1253
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 3: that like overnight you're gonna be able to like make

1254
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 3: money off of like music streaming. But that could be

1255
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: the start of you know, taking ownership over your identity

1256
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: and not just take overship by of your identity. But

1257
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: you'll start to start to be like, oh, I'm actually

1258
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: like being rewarded for being myself. People are like people

1259
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 3: would DM you and be like, hey, I'm really fucking

1260
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: glad that you're doing this because I was scared to

1261
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: do this, and the way that you're being you know,

1262
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: open about who you are is inspiring me. And then

1263
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 3: you'll be like, oh, fuck, I'm actually getting every my

1264
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: whole I've been. I've been consistently my whole life punished

1265
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: for being who I am. But we're into a fucking

1266
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: media landscape right now where I genuinely think you will

1267
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: be rewarded for being who you are. Does that make

1268
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: sense my thoughting crazy.

1269
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 11: No, it makes a lot of sense. It's just I

1270
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 11: guess on my end of the thing where I first

1271
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 11: time I did that or I came out, it was amazing,

1272
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 11: like I got all those messages from so many people

1273
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 11: and it was so much support. And then I ended

1274
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 11: up homeless and living out of my car and it's

1275
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 11: kind of hard to find a place to go and

1276
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 11: shave and do all that stuff you need to do

1277
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 11: to not look like the other when you're when you're

1278
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 11: home living out of your car every day. And I

1279
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 11: was actually on the process of starting hormones and I

1280
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 11: was supposed to go a whole year every day as

1281
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 11: my you know, as myself, and I made it seven

1282
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 11: months until I just you know, I was oh, listen,

1283
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 11: I couldn't couldn't do it anymore. And so when that happened,

1284
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 11: I was like, fuck, sorry, I don't know if we

1285
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 11: can curse. But I was like, you know, this sucks

1286
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 11: because now I got to go back into hiding per se.

1287
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 11: And at that point I was like, Okay, let me

1288
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 11: figure out everything, get everything back on course again. Then

1289
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 11: I came out again and I was thinking, this is

1290
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 11: going to be the time. It's going to be the

1291
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 11: morning it's going to be. It made it like a year,

1292
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 11: about a year and then ended up in really dire

1293
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 11: strengths again and had to take a step back. And

1294
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 11: then finally after the second time, I ended up making

1295
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 11: music a full time career and I was like, I

1296
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 11: don't ever want to lose this. But then I moved

1297
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 11: away to where I am now in hopes of doing

1298
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 11: exactly what we're talking about, and it did not go well.

1299
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 11: Let's just say it did not go well. So then

1300
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 11: after that I kind of took some time off. I

1301
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 11: kind of laid my head low and came back out

1302
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 11: and I came out swinging because I had something to prove.

1303
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 11: It really built myself up in the city and the

1304
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 11: surrounding area that I'm in. And now that you know,

1305
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 11: I've kind of gotten that point, and then COVID took

1306
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 11: all that away. I'm sitting here going, maybe I should just,

1307
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 11: you know, start thinking about what's next. But I'm cleared

1308
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 11: to do.

1309
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: I I again, I'm not I'm not a therapist. I'm

1310
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: not like an advice guy. I don't want to till

1311
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you what to do. But

1312
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: if if, if you know, we were just friends and

1313
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: I was telling you what I think you should do,

1314
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: I really I feel like you gotta get the fuck

1315
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: out of there. I feel like, you know, I appreciate that,

1316
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: and I just feel I feel like you gotta.

1317
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: I don't.

1318
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you can stay there. I feel

1319
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: like because just because if you move, even if you move,

1320
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 3: and you're like fucking homeless for however long. I again, man,

1321
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 3: I I don't want.

1322
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 11: To like it's fighting for a future I kind of gives.

1323
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like you got to take the bet,

1324
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: you know, I feel I gotta take a chance. You

1325
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: just gotta move and you gotta get out of there

1326
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: because what what because at least I don't know what

1327
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 3: I'm saying is making any sense, but at least, like,

1328
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: because what are you gonna do? You're just gonna stay

1329
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: in the closet and be in pain forever, or at.

1330
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 11: Least until something works out, until something happens in this

1331
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,879
Speaker 11: long story, okay, long story short, I'm in the craziest

1332
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 11: state in America. That tells you enough.

1333
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 3: And also I hate that, like you you like, what

1334
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: the fuck you can't do your job if you're trans

1335
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 3: that's sound.

1336
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 11: Well, no, it's just because there's a lot of good.

1337
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 3: You gotta I feel like you gotta get out of there.

1338
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 11: The mindset out here is not Like I even moved

1339
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 11: to a city that is known for being very LGBT friendly.

1340
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 11: Can I realize it's not When you get outside of

1341
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 11: just like this one street that they dedicated down the

1342
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 11: whole city, it's like there's nothing else and everyone else

1343
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 11: gets like really put off by it. But that's another

1344
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 11: thing that's that a lot of people don't know that.

1345
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 11: There's there's a lot of infighting in the in the

1346
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 11: LGBT community. There's a lot of game and Muslim people

1347
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 11: that don't like trans people really yeah, and a lot

1348
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 11: of game using people don't like buy people. It's there's

1349
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 11: infighting all and all the time in all types of places.

1350
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 11: And what's funny is I'm going to say somebody, uh

1351
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 11: I think, No, I'm not gonna say it because it's

1352
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 11: just too spot on.

1353
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: What Okay, let me ask you crazy question. No, if

1354
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 3: you if you could live anywhere in the entire world,

1355
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 3: where you live.

1356
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 11: In the entire world, Well that's the thing. I hate

1357
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 11: the cold with a burning passion. Okay, but a lot

1358
01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 11: of the places I would like to live are could

1359
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 11: I mean like New York City, but just I want

1360
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 11: to go somewhere where there's just people playing music all

1361
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 11: the time and that's all that happens every day, every second,

1362
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 11: every minute. Oh, I love Nashville. That's a good spot.

1363
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 3: Is Nashville the LGBT friendly.

1364
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 6: Not as much?

1365
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 11: But I'm not like I mean, I'm born and raised

1366
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 11: in the backwoods, you know, on the creeks all that stuff.

1367
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 11: So at the same time, I'm not like, you know,

1368
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 11: the most quote unquote flamboyant person. I'm still raised in

1369
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 11: the backwoods. I know how to handle myself. But it's

1370
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 11: just I need to be somewhere that's not so like

1371
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 11: society is shutting it all down.

1372
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: I again, I I. You know, I'm privileged and ship

1373
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: so I don't want to like I I this has

1374
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: come from like a place of like, I want to

1375
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: have hope for you because I see it like I,

1376
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: I feel like there is an opening and then you

1377
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 3: should try to find it for you to move to

1378
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 3: another place where you can because you don't have to move.

1379
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to move to

1380
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 3: like an a, you don't have to move to like

1381
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: the as to to your most expensive fucking San Francisco

1382
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 3: city to just find a place where you can be

1383
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 3: trans without people shitting on you.

1384
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 11: True, it's just I guess it wouldn't be so hard

1385
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 11: if it wasn't for my my h for my career,

1386
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 11: you know, for my my career field. Because that's just

1387
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 11: that's that's the kind of feel where you are put

1388
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 11: in front of people and they either like you or

1389
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 11: they don't, and your job is based upon their judgement

1390
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 11: of you. And if you have to close, it makes

1391
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 11: people not be happy about man.

1392
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 3: But would you be opposed to like working a job

1393
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: outside of your fields for a little bit.

1394
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 11: I've worked a lot of jobs in my field, Like

1395
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 11: I've worked like sixty something jobs already, and I really

1396
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 11: don't want to go back. I missed playing like five

1397
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 11: six nights a week, sometimes two or three gigs for

1398
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 11: like all day long, twelve hours of just playing music.

1399
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 11: That would be the best. But it sucks.

1400
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 3: It sucks that it's just all just gone here here, here,

1401
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 3: Here's here's what I think you should do. I think

1402
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: you should find like literally Google, go on fucking pick

1403
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 3: like your top five cities that you would want to

1404
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 3: live in. Go to Facebook type what kind of music

1405
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: do you say you play?

1406
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 11: I mean blues, blues and funking' jazz.

1407
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: Literally type going to Facebook type Brooklyn jazz and find

1408
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 3: the Facebook group and make a make a post in

1409
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: the Facebook group telling your entire story and people. I

1410
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 3: guarantee people will reach out to you and they will

1411
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: have like actual actuable advice. Like I I I, I

1412
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: know that is like a lame answer, but like I

1413
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 3: think that you should I think that you should. You

1414
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: should you should try to connect with people because there's

1415
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: there is I fucking like, there's got it. There's there

1416
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: has to be someone who has been in your exact

1417
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 3: situation who you could feasibly get in touch with that

1418
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: might be able to help you.

1419
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 13: In some way.

1420
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 11: Well, there's one person the internet.

1421
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: Like you said that again, there.

1422
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 11: Is one person I've been wreting to reach out to

1423
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 11: and and it worked before where I got the long

1424
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 11: story short feature on stage with like a billboard topping

1425
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 11: band because I just reached out to him, like You're

1426
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 11: an influence.

1427
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: Can keep doing that, keep keep keep keep reaching.

1428
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 9: Out there.

1429
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 11: There was there's this one chick, her name, she's from

1430
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 11: this band called Against Me, but she did exactly what

1431
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 11: I'm kind of doing right now. And they were kind

1432
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 11: of famous, and they were super famous or pretty pretty

1433
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 11: famous in the nineties as a punk band, and she

1434
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 11: stayed as he throughout all of that, and they asked,

1435
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 11: why did it take you so long to come out

1436
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 11: about this? And they're like, I wanted to wait until

1437
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 11: I had more than enough fans where I could lose

1438
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 11: fifty percent of them and still be you know, just fine.

1439
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: Why though.

1440
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 11: It's complicated. That's what makes it so complicated is because

1441
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 11: you know you're you're putting a like a funnel on

1442
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 11: your potential. I feel like in today's world because so

1443
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 11: many people you know, not everybody obviously, but there's a

1444
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 11: lot of people less in this world that look at

1445
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 11: someone like me and go freak crazy, lunatic weird.

1446
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: Though, But I think, and this this to me, this

1447
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: is like, to me, this isn't even like a social

1448
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 3: thing any but it's just like a marketing thing, like

1449
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: if you like it's like if you look at it

1450
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 3: like that, like you you're you're in a niche in

1451
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: a way.

1452
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 11: I went to school for music business and all that stuff,

1453
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 11: and I mean, that's another factory right there. You got

1454
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 11: to you gotta do your your brand exactly.

1455
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: But that's good. I think it's good to be in

1456
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 3: a niche because that means the people who love you

1457
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 3: and connect with you and identify with you will really

1458
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: love you and connect you and identify with you, and

1459
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 3: will really be inclined to support you more than just

1460
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 3: a general person someone who is involved in your niche.

1461
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 11: So I think that's a good thing.

1462
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you should look at it as a

1463
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: bad thing.

1464
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 11: I want to tell you that that that was what

1465
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 11: you just said right there is pretty much the perfect

1466
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 11: thing I needed to hear throughout this call. Like that's

1467
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 11: why I think I called to.

1468
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 3: Hear that Okay, good, good, because I I really fucking

1469
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 3: fully believe that especially fuck I this is like some

1470
01:24:55,360 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: fucking Gary vannerschok bullshit. But like I seriously like it

1471
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 3: used to be. See if you know what, if this

1472
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: were like a nineteen if this were like nineteen eighty one,

1473
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 3: you'd be fucked.

1474
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 5: But it's not.

1475
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 3: If this were nineteen eighty one, you you you'd have

1476
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: to like you, you you couldn't do this, but you're

1477
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: But it's not. It's twenty twenty and there's TikTok, and

1478
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: there's arpant, and there's fucking Twitter and there's SoundCloud. All right,

1479
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1480
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 5: Like, so the the.

1481
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 3: You, you, the tools are there for you to find

1482
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: your audience and to find your niche and I and

1483
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: everything that you look at as a bad I swear

1484
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 3: to guy, everything that you look at as a bad thing,

1485
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 3: everything that people call you a freak, for, everything that

1486
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 3: people bully you, for, everything that people give you shit

1487
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 3: for will will. This sounds cliche, but I genuinely believe it.

1488
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 3: All those things will actually be the things that give

1489
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 3: you the most benefit, the most value to the people

1490
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: who identify with you. Who are gonna be your fans,

1491
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 3: who are gonna buy your T shirts, We're gonna stream

1492
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: your music, who are gonna sign up for your Patreon,

1493
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: who are gonna, you know, do all those things.

1494
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 11: Wow, I just I don't know. I just never thought

1495
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 11: about it that way, never thought about you know, the

1496
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 11: people that will that do come, even though it might

1497
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 11: not be you knows it might be a harder road,

1498
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 11: but the people there will be more genuinely there exactly.

1499
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why would you want those fans in the

1500
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 3: first place, The that would leave if you came out.

1501
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 11: Well, it sounds like I got to make some plans.

1502
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: Make some plans, right, And look, I was someone and

1503
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 3: then the someone in the chad was saying this, I

1504
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 3: don't know if you are a discord, but uh, we

1505
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: have a little self promote channel. Definitely put your stuff

1506
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: in there.

1507
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 11: Okay, we'll check it out. Well, then I mean, how

1508
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 11: do I how do I join it? Is it in

1509
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 11: the info below?

1510
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Someone type someone type exclamation point discord.

1511
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 11: For us already in it, already done, rock and roll.

1512
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah put I really spectre of course, man, And thank

1513
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: you for the safe don't.

1514
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 11: Oh well you know, oh no, no, no right, too

1515
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 11: much too much going on, too much suff to do.

1516
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: All right, man, take care and and and and good

1517
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 3: luck to you.

1518
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 11: Thank you and thanks for doing what you do.

1519
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: Chat.

1520
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 6: You'll be easy.

1521
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 11: Thank you very much.

1522
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 3: All right, man, take care, have a good night you too.

1523
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 12: Came from Zach Yah.

1524
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:47,839
Speaker 3: Zach Zach.

1525
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 8: Dick.

1526
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 6: Finally have we.

1527
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: Never spoken before. It's the first time that we have

1528
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 3: ever spoken.

1529
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 6: This is the first time we're speaking, Dick.

1530
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 3: So you tell me this is you tell me that

1531
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: this is momentous.

1532
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 6: I don't know how many times I've called it. It

1533
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 6: feels like I've been on the phone for a year.

1534
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it almost feels like we know

1535
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 3: each other a little bit?

1536
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 6: Yeah? No, I feel like I know you pretty well.

1537
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if you feel like you

1538
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 6: know me, but I hope you do.

1539
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily fel like I know you, but I mean,

1540
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 3: you know, I don't mind. We can I think we

1541
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: can feel comfortable in each other's presence. I wouldn't say

1542
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: I have like tangible information about you necessarily, but I

1543
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: think that we that we could you know, be and

1544
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 3: have a conversation with each other.

1545
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 6: That's very fair, to be honest. There there's a really

1546
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 6: really good reason that I called, and I feel like

1547
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 6: you're the only person that can that can help me

1548
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 6: with this. So that's I'm really excited for this.

1549
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 3: Why before you tell me what it is, I want

1550
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: to know why you think I'm the only person that

1551
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: can help you, to.

1552
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 6: Be honest, It's something that's been weighing on my mind

1553
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 6: for years and years, and I've spent a lot of

1554
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 6: time trying to figure out, you know, what it means,

1555
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 6: what it could mean, what the answer is to this.

1556
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 6: And I think I just came across you probably like

1557
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 6: two weeks ago or so. I think it's been tiktoks

1558
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 6: and I've been following you since, and you just you

1559
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 6: have this sense of knowledge that you put off in

1560
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 6: the areas that I've never felt from anyone else, and

1561
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 6: I feel like you might be able to get me

1562
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 6: some insight on this particular topic. I don't know, it's

1563
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 6: just a feeling. I guess.

1564
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we can try it, but I have said but

1565
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm not qualified to do anything in any shape or form.

1566
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 3: But you know what, Zach, you know what Tonight's a

1567
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: special night. Well, I let's give it a shot. Tell

1568
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 3: me what's going on.

1569
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 6: So this is something that I thought about years ago,

1570
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 6: and like I said, I've never really been able to

1571
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 6: get closure on it by myself. But I just I

1572
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 6: really need to know and I hope you can give me,

1573
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 6: you know, some some guidance on it. So here it is,

1574
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 6: does is hard? Do Do dogs know their dogs?

1575
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?

1576
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 11: Okay, I have a dog.

1577
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: I have a dog, exact and he doesn't know that.

1578
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 3: She has no fucking clue.

1579
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 6: Okay, okay. How do you know that she doesn't know?

1580
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 13: Though?

1581
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 3: Because she knows very few things. Yeah, food is delicious, Yeah,

1582
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 3: she knows. She knows. I mean, look, she knows things

1583
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: that humans that that that animals instinctually know. Yeah, with

1584
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: their brains, but with you know, their I'm not again,

1585
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 3: this is why I don't know anything or anything. But

1586
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: like she knows, she doesn't know what a dog is,

1587
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 3: she instinctually knows what food is. She instinctually responds to

1588
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 3: affection and the release of oxytocin as we all do. Yeah,

1589
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, when she's being pet it releases feel good

1590
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,839
Speaker 3: chemicals in her brain, so she knows she likes being petted.

1591
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 3: But she doesn't know these things because like adult, like,

1592
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 3: everything that she knows is because of chemical is because

1593
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: of chemicals being released in her brain, not because of

1594
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 3: knowledge from like a database or anything.

1595
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, no one's ever hid her she's a dog, exactly.

1596
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: No one's ever told her she's a dog. If she

1597
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 3: can't feel it, she does not know. If she can't

1598
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 3: feel it with you, she can't feel dog with her body.

1599
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 11: But sometimes my.

1600
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 6: Dog follows me up to my car and he he

1601
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 6: goes to the back door. He doesn't ever try to drive,

1602
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 6: So I feel like he knows I'm a dog. I

1603
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 6: cannot drive this car. I got to get in the back.

1604
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 6: That's just how it is.

1605
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't know what driving a car is.

1606
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 3: He had that that idea is not that is foreign

1607
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: to him.

1608
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he knows. He has to know that it's

1609
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 6: it's a mode of transportation unlike walking on his four legs,

1610
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 6: And he has to know that he's not capable of

1611
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 6: making that possible, you know what I mean?

1612
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't think he thinks that

1613
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 3: much about this. I don't think he's thinking that. I

1614
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: don't think he's thinking as hard about it as you

1615
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 3: think he is.

1616
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 6: I want to think that he's so smart.

1617
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 5: I do.

1618
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 3: By the way, Look, I'm not going to be the

1619
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 3: kid telling you that Santa Claus isn't real even though

1620
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 3: he's not.

1621
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 6: But yeah, well, but you're probably right.

1622
01:32:59,640 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 5: Mhm.

1623
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 3: The dogs don't know anything, you know what? Okay? Like, hey,

1624
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: what you want to hear something interesting that I read something.

1625
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 6: I absolutely love to hear something interesting.

1626
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 3: This fucking this actually kind of freaked me out a

1627
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 3: little bit.

1628
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 5: But like.

1629
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 3: I read. I read this article that was talking about

1630
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 3: how consciousness isn't a binary of conscious and unconscious. It's

1631
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: actually a spectrum. There's more conscious to let there's more

1632
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 3: conscious and there's less conscious and humans this was I

1633
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 3: think is really fucking interesting. Humans have not won the

1634
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: binary of consciousness and unconscious by being conscious. They're simply

1635
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 3: more conscious than other things, which means there's something more

1636
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 3: conscious than us.

1637
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense.

1638
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 3: So like an ant doesn't understand the world of a chicken, yeah,

1639
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: a chicken and understand the world of a dog. Don't

1640
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 3: imagine how like like, imagine how little a dog understands

1641
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 3: the human world. There is another organism above us that

1642
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 3: we understand as much that we can only understand as

1643
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 3: much as a dog could understand us.

1644
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1645
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you do you think that that type of

1646
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 6: organism is here with us?

1647
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 5: No?

1648
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares about us.

1649
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean human dogs follow us around. That Like,

1650
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 6: do you think it's possible that we could follow that

1651
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 6: around and not even realize that it possesses this ability

1652
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 6: over us.

1653
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: Dogs follow us around because we do things to them

1654
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 3: that release feel good chemicals in their brain. Yeah, such

1655
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 3: as pat them and give them food, because that's the

1656
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: only thing they know is those chemicals in their brain.

1657
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 3: And by the way, I think that means that you're

1658
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 3: By the way, I wouldn't say that doesn't mean your

1659
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 3: dog love does love you. I think your dog actually

1660
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: does love you. Yeah, I also think. I mean, this

1661
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: is some fucking pickle Rick shit right here. But love

1662
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:18,759
Speaker 3: is you know, just chemical?

1663
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1664
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 6: No, for sure, I agree.

1665
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 3: Mm, so your dog does love you, but love is

1666
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 3: it is just a chemical that compels humans to breathe.

1667
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 3: That's a quote from Rick and Morty, but it's kind

1668
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 3: of true. Yeah, and I'm you know, I'm Pickle Rick.

1669
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you gotta rip that band aid all.

1670
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 6: Sometimes the hard reality to face, but a necessary one.

1671
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 3: How are you doing, Exach, I'm doing good. You know.

1672
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here thanks to my girlfriend where we were

1673
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 6: watching a hockey game. She's she's passed out. She's pregnant,

1674
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 6: so she falls asleep.

1675
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 3: Pretty easy, you girlfriend, I do.

1676
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love her more than anything outside of our

1677
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 6: son growing inside of her stomach.

1678
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

1679
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 11: It's pretty cool.

1680
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 6: But that you know, what is love?

1681
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 3: Well? You know, a cartoon once said that love is

1682
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 3: just a chemical that compels humans to bring.

1683
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 11: Oh, she just woke up.

1684
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 6: She says, Hi, hello, man, this is awesome. I'm so

1685
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 6: you know, I called so many times. I thought that

1686
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 6: my service provider was going to cancel my service. But

1687
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 6: here we are.

1688
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 3: We did it, Zach. We did it, and you know what,

1689
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 3: thank you, Thank you for being persistent enough to get here.

1690
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 6: You know, I couldn't have done it without you.

1691
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 5: There.

1692
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 6: There are multiple times where I was like, you know,

1693
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 6: it's not gonna happen, and I didn't the call, you know,

1694
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 6: I wouldn't redial, and I'd go back to the stream,

1695
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 6: and then somebody else would say, you know, I've called

1696
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 6: this many times and I can't get through, and you're like,

1697
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 6: don't give up. And I was like, yeah, yeah, don't

1698
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 6: give up.

1699
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: You got this, And ladies and gentlemen, this is this

1700
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 3: right here is a success story.

1701
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 6: This is a breath.

1702
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? You know, I'm gonna

1703
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 3: start doing and I gotta figure out to do. I

1704
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,520
Speaker 3: need a breakthrough button, like when we have a breakthrough

1705
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 3: like the.

1706
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 6: Staples that was easy button or like something bigger, like

1707
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 6: it's just you know, like a button. Yeah, okay, yeah,

1708
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 6: I mean I can't make one, but if you had one,

1709
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 6: that would be cool. I wish I could contribute.

1710
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: We'll figure something out.

1711
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 6: Yeah all right, well I'll give someone else a chance.

1712
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 6: I appreciate your time. It's it's been great. You really

1713
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 6: give me some insight on something I've been, you know,

1714
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 6: a demon I've been you know, struggling with for the

1715
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 6: past you know how long.

1716
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy to help you out. And you know,

1717
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 3: I hope this doesn't change your relationship with your dog.

1718
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,560
Speaker 6: Oh it doesn't know. I love him very much, and

1719
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 6: I'm hopefu that he loves me. If he doesn't, then

1720
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 6: you know, it's fine. He does, he gets said and

1721
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 6: he's cool with whatever. But you know, yeah, well you

1722
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 6: can't change the way that people or dogs feel, you know,

1723
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:26,919
Speaker 6: you can only adjust accordingly.

1724
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 3: I'll drink to that. Have a good evening, Zach.

1725
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 5: I love you.

1726
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 6: All from you A.

1727
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: Hello, Elonkay?

1728
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 12: How are you doing?

1729
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 6: Gigs?

1730
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 8: Uh?

1731
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 3: You know, I'm all right, And thank you for asking,

1732
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 3: because not a lot look like high level with you here. Yeah,

1733
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 3: not a lot of people as not a lot of

1734
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 3: people ask me how I am, which is fine. I

1735
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 3: don't mind the people ask me how I am that

1736
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: often either because they're not obligated to. I'm not. I

1737
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 3: didn't set up the streams so that people could ask

1738
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 3: me how I am. That would be ridiculous, but I

1739
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 3: appreciate what they do have that response, of course exactly.

1740
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean it's always nice, but I'm not actively seeking it.

1741
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm not actively Have you ever lied elive? No, actually

1742
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 3: we'll get into that. What are you doing right now?

1743
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 12: What am I doing?

1744
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 8: Well?

1745
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 12: Right now, I've been having a few booze and watching.

1746
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: The stream That's cool.

1747
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: What what do you What do you usually do all day?

1748
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 12: What do I usually do all day? Well, see, I'm

1749
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 12: a diesel technician, so usually I'm working on heavy equipment

1750
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 12: or semi trucks.

1751
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 3: So you work on trucks all day yep.

1752
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 12: Minds all day? Always the thread of being crushed. I

1753
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 12: love doing it.

1754
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's kind of that's scary. You're like constantly

1755
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:14,879
Speaker 3: under your a constant threat of a gigantic machine crushing

1756
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: your skull.

1757
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, And that's the thrill.

1758
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 12: There's nothing better than that.

1759
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 3: Thal real? Are you serious right now? You know that's

1760
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 3: weird because if you just if you had just told

1761
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 3: me that you enjoy the mechanics of fixing cars, I

1762
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't think that was crazily fucked up. But the fact

1763
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 3: that you're telling me that you enjoy the danger of

1764
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: potentially getting your head crushed by being underneath a car,

1765
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 3: that's the excipherment. I almost don't believe you.

1766
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 12: No, that's the real excitement. Are as safe as possible,

1767
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 12: you could be as safe as possibly can, but you

1768
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 12: never know if that thing's going to crush you, so

1769
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 12: you always have to keep that like ready thought of

1770
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 12: fight or flight.

1771
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 3: Are you being serious? Right now.

1772
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 12: I'm being dead serious.

1773
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 3: I can't that makes no, I'm not I'm not doing

1774
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 3: this to I. Look, I know there's a funny situation

1775
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: and there's a funny call, but I'm not doing this

1776
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 3: to except that makes no sense whatsoever, and I am

1777
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 3: still I don't believe it.

1778
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 9: It's the thrill.

1779
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 12: So I've always been a thrill seeker. I've always been

1780
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 12: on dirt bikes, always always been looking for that fight

1781
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 12: or flight.

1782
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 13: But that's.

1783
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 3: Dirt bikes, and like skydiving.

1784
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 12: There's real so different, I know, but I couldn't find

1785
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 12: my way into that profession. I ended up usually getting hurt.

1786
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 3: That's like saying that like you get that To me,

1787
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 3: that's like saying that you get a thrill out of

1788
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 3: like holding a knife up to your throat but not

1789
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: slicing your throat.

1790
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 12: No, I wouldn't take it that far, but I do

1791
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 12: like that fight or flight's stimulation. However, I do know

1792
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 12: that the real question of this stream was about the lie.

1793
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 3: No, there's wait, so are you sorry you telling me?

1794
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 3: Would you would you prefer to work in an environment

1795
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 3: that had would you get off on working in an

1796
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 3: environment that had that had less safety restrictions.

1797
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 12: No, not necessarily, because I also highly look after safety.

1798
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 12: But sometimes that even when safety is at the highest

1799
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 12: precaution and shit's been looked at, you never know if

1800
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 12: something's going to go wrong for no reason. There's always

1801
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 12: that slight chance.

1802
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 3: Why does that appeal to you when you're fixing a car,

1803
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 3: but you're just that makes no sense When you're fixing cars, I.

1804
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 12: Behind it and engineering. I also love mechanics and engineering

1805
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 12: very much. I also love taking things apart. But I've

1806
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 12: also been a thrill seeker myself, and sometimes I know

1807
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 12: that that thoughts in the back of my head. When

1808
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 12: the trucks stable, I know there's nothing to be worried about.

1809
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 12: But when like you are doing something that's heavy equipment,

1810
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 12: you know, and you have to strap a crane to

1811
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 12: it and pull it out and everything's working perfectly fine,

1812
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 12: but something accidentally slips for no reason. There's always that

1813
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 12: danger behind those kinds of jobs, and it's kind of

1814
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 12: crazy to watch and try to like figure out what

1815
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 12: you could do better next time. If it did happen,

1816
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 12: nothing could happen, no one could get hurt because of

1817
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 12: the safety precautions that were in place. But there's always

1818
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 12: that thrill of being like, whoa, that shit was crazy?

1819
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 3: All right, real quick? Can I answer something? What have

1820
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 3: you ever lied? Boy?

1821
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 6: Yes?

1822
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 12: And I've only told a handful of people this life,

1823
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 12: and it would be amazing to have it out in public.

1824
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 5: Hit.

1825
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 12: So a few years back.

1826
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 3: I got.

1827
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 12: Heavily under the influence of alcohol, way too wasted for

1828
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 12: my own good at my girlfriend's mom's house while watching

1829
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 12: her dog. Well, I ended up shitting on her mom's

1830
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 12: floor and then blaming the dog later when I found

1831
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 12: out that I shot on the or.

1832
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 9: And got away with it.

1833
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 3: And to this day she doesn't know, no, and happily.

1834
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 12: It's an X now. But yes, she did not know.

1835
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 12: I ended up picking up my own shit, but she

1836
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 12: never knew it was probably me.

1837
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 3: You ended up picking it up? Yeah, ended picking it up.

1838
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 12: I ended up picking it up with paper towel and

1839
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 12: stuff and flushing it.

1840
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 3: But sheould apologize to the dog man.

1841
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 12: Oh dude, that dog was amazing too.

1842
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 4: I love that dog.

1843
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 12: I felt so bad.

1844
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: She think the dog was pissed to you.

1845
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 11: Probably he looked really upset.

1846
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 12: When I looked over at him, he looked at me

1847
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 12: and just kind of looked down in the way, I

1848
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 12: felt real bad.

1849
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: What do you think you could do to make it

1850
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 3: up to the dog?

1851
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 12: If I were to ever meet that dog again, I

1852
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 12: would give it the biggest milk bone I've ever seen,

1853
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,560
Speaker 12: plus a giant cow leg cowbone.

1854
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 3: Would that be enough?

1855
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 6: It might be.

1856
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 12: I'd probably have to give them.

1857
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 11: A lot of walks too.

1858
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 3: What'd you say?

1859
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 13: Your name was?

1860
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 12: My name was Eli, Man.

1861
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: Eli.

1862
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1863
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 3: Thanks for being honest with us about your lie, and

1864
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: I hope it made you feel better to come clean

1865
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 3: about that.

1866
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 12: It really did, Man. Thank you for letting me bring

1867
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 12: that up.

1868
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1869
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 12: You have a great night.

1870
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 3: Man you too, Man, I love I'll talk to you soon.

1871
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 5: I love you.

1872
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 13: You get.

1873
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 3: Should I should? I drink some water? I don't want

1874
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 3: to drink any I don't want to drink water anymore.

1875
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm tired of you. Know how people say they're trying

1876
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 3: to quit carbs, they're trying to quit sugar. I'm trying

1877
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: to quit water. I write a blog saying that too

1878
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 3: much water is bad for you. It makes you gain weight,

1879
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 3: it makes you fat. Water makes the fat. I'm I'm i'm, I'm.

1880
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing a water fast. I'm doing a water fast,

1881
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 3: but I'm doing the opposite of the water. Most people

1882
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 3: when they do water fast, they only drink water. I'm

1883
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 3: doing I'm eating everything and drinking everything besides water.

1884
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 12: Ethan pellet.

1885
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 3: Ethan Pelleteer, Hello, I'm in.

1886
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 10: You're in?

1887
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 8: Yes?

1888
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

1889
01:47:58,640 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 5: Oh?

1890
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 3: Are you watching this? You? Are you watching the stream?

1891
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 3: Ethan Pelletier.

1892
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 5: I just shut it off?

1893
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 3: Okay, you just shut it off. Where are you? What

1894
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 3: room of your house are you in right now? If

1895
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,879
Speaker 3: you live in a house I live.

1896
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 5: I'm in my living room.

1897
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,839
Speaker 6: I just left my bedroom.

1898
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 3: Where can you I don't Where can you go where

1899
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 3: you're even more isolated than your living room? Do you

1900
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 3: have a cellar of some kind?

1901
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

1902
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 5: Hold on one second, I do have a cellar, but

1903
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 5: uh are you able to hear me better?

1904
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 6: Now?

1905
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 3: Are you in the cellar?

1906
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 8: No?

1907
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 5: I switched a speaker phones.

1908
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 3: I want the most isolated version of you. I don't

1909
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 3: want you to fill I don't want you in your

1910
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 3: living room where you're like, Oh no, my roommate's going

1911
01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 3: to come in and hear me talking to Gecko.

1912
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 6: Man.

1913
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 5: I want you know, oh, I live in a house

1914
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 5: by myself. I live in a house by myself.

1915
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 3: So what did you do all day?

1916
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 5: I worked from let's say nine to five. I'm an accountant,

1917
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 5: and I came home just kind of relaxed. I kind

1918
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 5: of got a I actually had a reduction in my

1919
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 5: own anxiety because I've been taking an auditing course and

1920
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 5: I found out that I got an A on a

1921
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 5: paper that I thought I bombed. So I was like,

1922
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 5: I don't know how I did that, but hey, I'll

1923
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 5: take it. We were taking an auditing course, Yeah, I

1924
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 5: just it's an eight week course and it's so I

1925
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 5: can get into graduate school.

1926
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 3: What is auditing?

1927
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 5: Farting is basically just trying to make sure that okay,

1928
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 5: so trying to find a right way to put it

1929
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 5: all right. In accounting, accountants, mostly what they do is

1930
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 5: just record transactions. So let's say, uh, you own a

1931
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 5: company and you need to purchase some materials for some reason.

1932
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 5: An accountant records that transaction. They record any transaction that

1933
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 5: has to do with money, and then they make balance

1934
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 5: sheets and reports based on the money that is spent

1935
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 5: and take it.

1936
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 3: Where do you think we go when we die?

1937
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 5: I do not know yet. Do you think, Oh, yeah,

1938
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 5: I have been thinking. I have to admit that kind

1939
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 5: of comes in my head every so often and i'd

1940
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 5: like to see it. Yeah, it's something that comes in

1941
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 5: my head because I got a little bit of a

1942
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 5: fear of death, so I kind of would like to

1943
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 5: make I prefer the idea of there being something, just

1944
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 5: because I don't like the idea of going out and

1945
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 5: being nothing.

1946
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 3: You know, are you afraid of death?

1947
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 5: Uh? I just it's something that I've carried since I

1948
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 5: was a kid, and uh, it's just the idea. I

1949
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 5: just don't like the idea of ceasing to exist as

1950
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 5: myself or that even that remote possibility of that.

1951
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 6: Because as as someone.

1952
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 5: Who's agnostic, I'm not certain, but I just I genuinely

1953
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 5: don't like the idea of you know, poof.

1954
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 3: So when you say that, what do you when you

1955
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 3: say exists as yourself? Does that mean that like, if

1956
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,520
Speaker 3: let's say you found out that you could be reincarnated

1957
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 3: as like like that, you wouldn't like that. You wouldn't

1958
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 3: even if it was you. You get to keep on living,

1959
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,919
Speaker 3: but you can't live as ethan pelleteer.

1960
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 5: I want to keep my identity and my person I

1961
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 5: feel like I just really like being me and I

1962
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 5: don't really ever want to lose that.

1963
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 3: Do you like your life.

1964
01:51:55,200 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, for the most part. Yes, I mean to get

1965
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 5: where I've been. I've definitely been through lives of crap.

1966
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 5: I lost my mom three years ago to leukemia, and

1967
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I got the house. I inherited

1968
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 5: it from her, and I had to deal with some

1969
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 5: guilt over that because I felt guilty that I profited

1970
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 5: over her death. But I came to a point where

1971
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 5: I realized that, you know, I remember my mother, and

1972
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 5: I remember like the good and the bad, and I

1973
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 5: do care about her.

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Speaker 11: And there's something.

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Speaker 5: If she were alive, she'd be proud of where I

1976
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 5: am today, and she'd be happy that I have the house.

1977
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 5: She'd be happy that I still have the house because

1978
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 5: when she died, I didn't have a job, so it

1979
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 5: was a very uncertain time period where I wasn't sure

1980
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 5: if I was going to be able to keep the

1981
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 5: house or not. When I fortunately found a good accounting job,

1982
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 5: and well, I had to save my house.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, I can understand where those feelings of

1984
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 3: like guilt would come. But like, dude, what you said,

1985
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 3: like full on, like she would want you to have

1986
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 3: that house, she would want you to have a good life.

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01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she'd be proud of me from where I

1988
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 5: am today. And it wasn't like I killed her or

1989
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 5: anything like that. So it's not like I was wishing

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Speaker 5: for her death or doing nothing actively.

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Speaker 3: No one, no one thought that.

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Speaker 5: No, I know, I'm just saying, it's not like I

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01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 5: was doing those things, so I shouldn't feel any guilt

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01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 5: towards that, you know what I mean. I guess obviously

1995
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 5: if I weren't to be a bad person anyway, so

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01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even feel guilt in that situation.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I I guess makes sense too. Yeah,

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01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 3: if you had done it, if you had killed your mom,

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01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 3: you wouldn't feel guilty about it because the type of

2000
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 3: person that would do that is probably antisocial enough that

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01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 3: they wouldn't They would do it and not feel guilty

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01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 3: about it.

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01:53:55,520 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, definitely, So I I have to admit, uh,

2004
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 5: you know, I do really like having my own house.

2005
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 5: But and that's part of where some of that guilt

2006
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 5: was coming from. But you know again it's I mean,

2007
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 5: what can you do. You can get the cards that

2008
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 5: you're dealt with and you play them as as they come,

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01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 5: you know, m hm.

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Speaker 3: Well ethan Pelleteer, You know, I'm happy for you. You know,

2011
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I was a little when you

2012
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 3: were talking about auditing. I was a little bored.

2013
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 5: But oh, I know act is very boring.

2014
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 3: But you But that's the thing is yourself. You're aware

2015
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 3: of the you. I think that you're because i've you know,

2016
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 3: there's a stereotype about like accountants that they're like their

2017
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 3: parents made them be an accountant or whatever. But you

2018
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 3: seem this does seem like a path that you have chosen.

2019
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 3: You're happy with. I'm happy.

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01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 5: Actually, there can actually be some really funny stuff that

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 5: happens in accounting.

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01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 12: And I'll so.

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01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 5: We have this thief where I work, and then there's

2024
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 5: really incompetent people where I work. There's something that's common

2025
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 5: in probably any profession. And one of the one of these,

2026
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 5: this one dude, basically he finds out that somebody is

2027
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 5: stealing from his store. So what he does is he

2028
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 5: decides to basically have her pay back what she stole,

2029
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 5: which if the first time, if it never happened again,

2030
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 5: I guess you could say it worked. But she kept

2031
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 5: stealing from the store over and over again, and they

2032
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 5: kept trying to make her pay it back, and at

2033
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 5: one point, my coworkers just like, well, you just keep

2034
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 5: giving her interest free loans, so you know, it's just

2035
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 5: you get stories like that doing it. But that's going

2036
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 5: to happen anywhere, allright.

2037
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 3: We asked with you again that story I also found boring,

2038
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 3: but I find it makes me. It makes me happy

2039
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 3: that you find it interesting.

2040
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I should also admit that, uh, this is

2041
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 5: actually the third time I've called like that i'd actually

2042
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 5: gotten u. We've talked twice before. The first conversation I

2043
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 5: told about the roommate, the one that was going around

2044
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 5: the storms. You know it's happened.

2045
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 8: Yes, well, I admit, Look, I hope that.

2046
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 3: We have a fourth time and a fifth time at

2047
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 3: a sixth time until until it's all over. And I

2048
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 3: love you very much and I'll talk to you again soon.

2049
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you. And I also wanted to say that

2050
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a good arc for me

2051
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 5: because when I first started talking to you, I felt

2052
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 5: really nervous. The second time I was a little less nervous,

2053
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 5: but this time I felt very comfortable. And I thank

2054
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 5: you for that.

2055
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 3: Good. I'm glad that you felt comfortable. You know, you

2056
01:56:59,280 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 3: got a good thing though.

2057
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 5: Nathan Pelletier yeah, definitely, and you do too, because honestly,

2058
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 5: this show it's gonna take off, it's already taken off.

2059
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 5: And the fact is that, I mean, you're You're only

2060
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 5: gonna go up from here.

2061
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 3: So when I'm making millions of dollars, I know who

2062
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 3: to call.

2063
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you'll need a good accountant. All right, man,

2064
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 5: I'll talk.

2065
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 3: To you soon.

2066
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 5: All right, Thank you, Uh, talk to you later, by later.

2067
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 3: I love you, Pelt.

2068
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, See this is Aaron?

2069
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 3: Is Aaron?

2070
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 6: Darren?

2071
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 3: You said this is Dan or Aaron?

2072
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 6: A a Ron?

2073
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 3: Aaron. My best friend in elementary school is named Aaron.

2074
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 3: And he had not got into a fight because three

2075
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 3: of my friends broke into his house when we were

2076
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 3: thirteen and we raided his fridge, and we raided his

2077
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 3: fridge and he had a fucking you know, the book

2078
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 3: Call of the Wild? Aaron. Do you know what book?

2079
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 3: He had a fucking copy of Call of the Wild

2080
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 3: in his.

2081
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 6: Fridge, just keeping it cold in there, and then he

2082
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 6: and then he came in.

2083
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 3: He busted it back. He came home and he looked

2084
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 3: at me and he was like what And he looked

2085
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 3: at us and he was like, what are you guys doing?

2086
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 3: And then I held up the copy of Call the

2087
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 3: Wild and I was like, what are you doing? But

2088
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 3: he was in the right. I was wrong because I

2089
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 3: was in his house. No, he didn't give a fuck.

2090
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 3: I actually I was. I was in way more trouble

2091
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 3: than he was. There's something illegal about putting a copy

2092
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 3: of Call in the Wild in your fridge, but breaking

2093
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 3: into someone's house is a different story.

2094
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 6: Well that's funny, that's a good story.

2095
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 3: Aaron.

2096
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 6: How we going, man? How you doing?

2097
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm all right. And by the way, you know,

2098
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 3: thanks for asking people l ask about me, which is

2099
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, is fine? Then I obligate it to but

2100
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 3: it does feel less than they do. What are you

2101
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 3: doing right now?

2102
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 6: Eron, I was just watching the stream all night. I've

2103
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 6: been loving it. It's great.

2104
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2105
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,000
Speaker 6: This is your first time in the format, you know,

2106
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 6: just talking to one another.

2107
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 3: Is this your first time watching it?

2108
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's the first time, like some other callers here,

2109
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 6: I just saw you on Reddit. I thought it was great.

2110
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, thank you man, I'm happy, happier part of

2111
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 3: the niche. You know, Reddit? What else do you do

2112
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 3: on Reddit? What are your most frequented subs?

2113
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 6: Oh Man I'm actually really new to it all. To

2114
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 6: be honest, I'm like a revert or maybe you know,

2115
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 6: I'm like the Benjamin Button of internet people. I've I've

2116
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 6: been off internet and social media and stuff for a

2117
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 6: really long time, but just starting to get back into it,

2118
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 6: but trying to use it responsibly. I guess I love

2119
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 6: psychology and stuff, so I know there's a lot of

2120
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 6: issues with stuff online I try to stay away from.

2121
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 3: Well, well, I said I would make this a quickie.

2122
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some good.

2123
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

2124
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some but I'm trying to

2125
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 3: think of some good questions I can get for you.

2126
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, a short singer, Yeah yeah, Aaron.

2127
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 3: What's your favorite color?

2128
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 6: If you know what? Funny enough? I love green. Emerald

2129
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 6: green is probably my favorite.

2130
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Why.

2131
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 6: I don't know why. It's it's just really pretty. Actually

2132
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 6: most of my I have a room in my house

2133
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 6: it's just painted green. Not like a bright, you know,

2134
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 6: awesome gecko green, but but a nice team bery green.

2135
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 3: What are your five favorite green things?

2136
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

2137
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 6: Man, okay, First on top of my head is Kermit

2138
02:00:55,760 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 6: because he's a classic Oscar ouch also classic. I don't

2139
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 6: know why. I'm just going with puppets.

2140
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 11: That's odd fair enough.

2141
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 6: Do you say green things just in general?

2142
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? Green things? Or I guess green characters.

2143
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, pickle somebody in chats of green apples. I really

2144
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:18,360
Speaker 6: love greens.

2145
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 8: Have apples.

2146
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 6: That's great.

2147
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 3: We got pickles, apples, Oscar the Grouch and Kermit.

2148
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so one more, one more. I'm just gonna

2149
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 6: go with trees. I love trees, some pretty all shapes

2150
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 6: of colors. I love nature.

2151
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

2152
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 6: Right, that's some good. I thought that was solid.

2153
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was solid too. I think you did

2154
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 3: a good job with that. You got, we got, there

2155
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 3: was a good mix of there was a good variety

2156
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 3: of characters. We got some foods in there, and then

2157
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 3: we got nature.

2158
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2159
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 6: I started with a couple of puppets. Then I brought

2160
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 6: it back around to being normal. I think by the

2161
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Speaker 6: end there, well.

2162
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 3: Aaron, I think this was successful. This was if Look,

2163
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 3: if I had to you know, you did a good job.

2164
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 3: But Nate, I didn't think it was possible to do

2165
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 3: an actively not that one would do a bad I

2166
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 3: think it was possible to do an actively bad job either,

2167
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 3: but it was possible to do an actively good job

2168
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Speaker 3: at naming five green things.

2169
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 6: But I think you did it okay.

2170
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 3: I think you were on the spot.

2171
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 6: I felt pressure, but that's good and I'm glad.

2172
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell I think that you. I think you

2173
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 3: handled that pressure perfectly.

2174
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Speaker 6: Oh perfect. Thanks, I want I got to come off tomove.

2175
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 3: Well, Aerin. Thank you for coming in and sharing your

2176
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 3: knowledge of green things with us. And uh, I'm glad

2177
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 3: to have you on the stream for the first time.

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02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 3: I hope that. I hope you stick around.

2179
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Speaker 6: And yeah, hey, my happy life pleasure. Yeah, thanks talking

2180
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 6: to me.

2181
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 3: For sure, dude. I love you very much and I

2182
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 3: hope to see you soon and have a good rest

2183
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 3: of the night.

2184
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Speaker 9: Man.

2185
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 6: You too, Man, I appreciate it. Take care, take care,

2186
02:02:59,440 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 6: all right bye.

2187
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, we did it. I made it to the

2188
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Speaker 3: end of the episode. This has been therapy Get go.

2189
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 3: This is the Therapy Eco podcast. If you if you

2190
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 3: like it, feel free to subscribe, Feel free to drop

2191
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 3: a nice review. If you didn't like it, you know,

2192
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 3: feel free to drop a one star review. I think

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Speaker 3: that's fair. I think if someone didn't like your podcast

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Speaker 3: and they want to drop a bad review of it,

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Speaker 3: I think that's fine. That's what bad reviews are for,

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Speaker 3: so you know, do that. But also you know, if

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Speaker 3: you like it, then drop a drop a good one,

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Speaker 3: just whatever you thought of it, review it accordingly. Okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if you want to call in again every Monday, Wednesday

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Speaker 3: Friday at ten pm Eastern Standard Time on twitch dot

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Speaker 3: tv slash Lyle Forever, I will be there. If you

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Speaker 3: like the show, follow me on Instagram the number four ever,

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Speaker 3: subscribe all that stuff anyway. All right, I'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you guys soon, see you next week. Much love, Hail Satan,

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Speaker 3: kill all the bugs, alright bye