1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock you go to the podcast same 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: as the radio show, John Cobelt's show on demand and 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: you pick up whatever you missed. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: But since you're here now, you're not going to miss this. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Michael Monks is here because the big story of the 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: day is an actual cleanup of a fairly large homeless encampment. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: It must be Karen Bass entering election. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Season now they're actually cleaning up encampments. It's a long 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: ox starch street near the four H five near the 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Burbank Boulevard exit. And not only were homeless people being 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: dragged away, but protesters showed up and there was a 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: little bit of mayhem. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: Michael, what was going on? 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: You know, never a day goes by in Los Angeles 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: without at least a. 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Little bit of mayhem. Today no exception. 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: Of course, As you noted, this was a homeless camp 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: in van Non near the four or five freeway, described 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: as the largest homeless camp in the San Fernando Valley, 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: and the cleaning of this site was part of Maribas's 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Inside Say program. This is her program that she monitors 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: that she created as part of her election. It's in 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: her office where homeless camps are remediated and the folks 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: who are living there can voluntarily agree to receive temporary housing. 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: So it's not like their tents and supplies are just 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: taken from them and they're left to rummage for themselves. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: They are taken from the site to a temporary housing. 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so all the people are god and all 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: the debris you may call them homes or tents, but 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: it's really all the garbage. Usually because a lot of 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: times they come and do cleanups and then the homeless 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: come back. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that may happen here. 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: That's one of the complaints about this program is that 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: the camps are cleaned up and either the residents return 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: or new residents take over the spot to put up 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: their own tents, and so it's a cycle that tends 41 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: to repeat itself. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: But all the old stuff is taken away here. 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: All the old stuff's not just taken away, it's dumped 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: and massive equipment shows up to move this stuff. We're 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: talking about dozens of tents and all of the trash 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: that has accumulated therein I. 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Saw that once a few years ago and we had 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: that VA encampment. It was in front of the VA 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: in Brentwood on Sama Sandie Boulevard, and I stood and 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: watched it. I think I even took some video of it. 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, they get the heavy machinery in there to 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: scoop everything up. 53 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 3: And you know, it's interesting, you know, being a guy 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: who lives in let's call it's get Row adjacent. 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: We gotta have a talk about that. I know. 56 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: But I can tell you because there are now tents 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: attached to my parking lots fence that these guys could 58 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: work for the engineering department. I mean they know how 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: to build walls and to keep their homes steady with 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: stuff they clearly have found on the streets. 61 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: So there is a lot of wood involved. 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: There are different pieces of various materials that are sourced 63 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: and brought in. 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: It might have been construction workers. They started snorting the math. 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: Before they missed last month's rent because yes, that leading price, 66 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: and then found themselves on the street. 67 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: But it wasn't just the homeless folks that were the 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: target of today's activities. A second activity emerged, and that 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: was protesters. There is an activist class in Los Angeles 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: that thinks cleaning up homeless camps is morally wrong. 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: No, I know, you're right, it's not a joke. That's 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: actually what they think, or at least they're paid to 74 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: think that's right. 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: And you often have a lot of these activists who 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: might have social media platforms or media outlets, alternative media outlets, 77 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: who will share stories of homeless people sad about what 78 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: was taken from them. 79 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: And there's validity to that. 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean, whatever we might think about the trash that 81 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: has picked up, that trash belonged to somebody, and so 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: sure there's validity to those people's feelings. But at the 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: same time, you are illegally camping in a public space 84 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: that you're not supposed to be in, and it is 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: dangerous and it is unclean, and the neighbors are worried 86 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: about it. 87 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: So action needs to be taken. 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: But protesters showed up to day to try to stop 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: this inside safe operation in Van NY's what they do well. 90 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: They got into the faces of the public officials who 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: were there to clean it up and physically had to 92 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: be removed. So not only were city crews there to 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: remove the debris and the camps, the homes of these 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: homeless people. There were authorities that needed to be called 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: in to help push these protesters back because the protesters 96 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: really one of these homeless people to stay, So the 97 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: police got involved. Yeah, and I'll tell you, John, I 98 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: hope you're sitting down. Are you sitting down? You're sitting down. 99 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: You're looking right at me. I'm gonna what do I. 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Look like I'm doing? You have to create a picture 101 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: in the audience. 102 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: Right, you're gonna agree with the SoundBite we're about to 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: play with one. Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles. 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: Are you ready for that? Eric IKLMN. 105 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: The idea that people would prefer to live in absolute 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: squalor like this, that's what I don't understand. But I 107 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: think most people who advocate for maintaining these conditions do 108 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: not live like this. They're not sleeping here, They're slipping 109 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: someplace else comfortably, and they're trying to to these people 110 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: continue to live in squalor until. 111 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: A building is built. I think that is atrocious. 112 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, she was fired up today. WHOA, so she 113 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: went down to the shining She's fired up over it. 114 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Now. 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Look, she has hanged her political fortunes on homelessness. She 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: ran on this issue, and this is her signature issue 117 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 3: while in office. She's had some difficulty with other issues 118 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: and this issue, right, I mean, there are no complaints 119 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: about the efficacy of this program in particular and how 120 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: much it costs. But she does not believe people should 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: be living on the streets. And if you can clean 122 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: up these camps, not only are you helping the homeless 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: people by giving them temporary housing and other services, you're 124 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: cleaning up the neighborhood for the people that would otherwise 125 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: be walking safely through there. 126 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: These are anarchist groups that show up and create this 127 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: kind of mayhem. I don't know of a single person 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: who thinks they ought to be allowed to live like 129 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: that and they end up dying like that. 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody wants this. 131 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: We've talked about how quickly active in Los Angeles can mobilize. 132 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're really a case study for the 133 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: rest of the country for people who believe in that ideology, 134 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: whether it be about homelessness, whether it be about immigration, 135 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: or whether it be about more localized, LA specific issues. 136 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: They can put out a text, a tweet, a post. Yeah, 137 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: and the people show up. That's why the Internet has 138 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: to be torn down. Another issue. The democratization of communications 139 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: has its drawbacks. 140 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: That's certainly true. So do we know who this group is? 141 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: Not specifically, but there are various I guess it's fair 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: to say leftist groups that tend to be more sympathetic. 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: It might not be fair to say sympathetic to the 144 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: homeless people, as we just noted. 145 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not sympathetic. 146 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 147 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Their request is that these folks should be allowed to 148 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: stay where they are. 149 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 2: No, they just want to support disorder. I think because 150 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: this is not good for the homeless people. I think 151 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: they may be part of the same group. Did you 152 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 2: are you familiar with La Metro? 153 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I don't take it, but I guess you do. 154 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: I'd love to take you on a ride one day 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: on on the Purple Line. 156 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: I've never gotten that offer before, but I'll take it 157 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: for a ride on the Purple Well, it's going to 158 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: go to Westwood soon. I need be very closed. I 159 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: was stuck at a traffic jam. It's going to be good. Well. 160 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: I bring this up because we know that there were 161 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: some problems last year with a spike in crime, and 162 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: one of the remediation efforts that the agency put in 163 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: where these tap to exit at Union Station and Santa 164 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Monica and a couple of other places that would basically 165 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: require you to use the tap card that you utilize 166 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: to enter to exit, and that cuts down on people 167 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: not paying, and a lot of the crimes are committed 168 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: by people who are not paying. Those tap to exits 169 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: are gone from the city limits of Los Angeles right 170 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: now because now the fire department got involved and said 171 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: we were not pulled in to discuss exits, and there 172 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: might be again validity to that. Maybe we should understand 173 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: how people would evacuate in case of emergency, But it 174 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: was apparently a procedural move that was pushed by a 175 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: group of these leftists that don't want fairs to be 176 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: charged by. 177 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I say, and they found some loophole. 178 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just found out about this yesterday and and 179 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: and you know that that's those are anarchists. They are, 180 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: and they have a lot of influence over some of 181 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: the elected officials. 182 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: And I wonder how that works. Why would you be 183 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: listening to anarchists. 184 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: I find, as a guy who spends probably too much 185 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: time watching city Hall or the county meetings as that 186 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: unhealthy when you have these meetings when policy is being constructed. 187 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: They're the ones who show up. They're the ones who 188 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: are at the meetings and and and speak for a 189 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: lot more people than perhaps they really represent. And it 190 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: can be powerful persuasion when that's all you're hearing. 191 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: But aren't they I'm just gonna say, aren't they smarter 192 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: than that? 193 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they're not smarter than that. We often those guys. 194 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Those people are individual looney tunes, you know, they're free 195 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: radicals bouncing around. 196 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: They don't represent anybody. That's right. 197 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: If if you were to adopt all of those policies, 198 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: there would be no new housing built because it would 199 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: all have to be affordable. There would be homelessness all 200 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: over the streets, even worse than we see now, and 201 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: the mayhem on Metro would probably increase. 202 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: I have heard that activists intimidate council members. I heard 203 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: Garcetti was especially susceptible to intimidation because they walked through 204 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: the halls at city Hall and they beat on doors 205 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: and they yell and they shout, and eventually the council 206 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: members will do anything just to make them go away 207 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: because they're scared. 208 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 3: These are the same folks, or at least the same 209 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: ideologies that they don't like Democrats either. 210 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Let's make this clear. 211 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were really angry about the protests, the anti 212 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: Trump protests that took place in downtown Los Angeles earlier 213 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: in the summer, because that was organized mostly by what 214 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: white liberal women who are down there with their coffees 215 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: and having a walk, because it wasn't it wasn't dramatic enough, 216 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: just the pure presence of people peacefully marching through the streets. 217 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: That's not their style. 218 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: They don't like the immigration protests that don't involve wrecked 219 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: physical antagonization. 220 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: And what do these people look like like are they? 221 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: Are they young? 222 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: A lot of them are young hipsters. 223 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: I noticed similarly when we were covering last year the 224 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: Palestine sit in camps and all of that. What I 225 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: gather is a lot of these folks strike me. And 226 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: this is just an editorialization, This is me observing. They 227 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: look like folks who wish they were still in college. 228 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 229 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Because when you're in college, you get radicalized a little bit. 230 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: You're excited to speak your mind for the first time. 231 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: As an adult. These are people who still kind of 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: have that mentality. We're all old enough now to speak 233 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: our minds, right, But. 234 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: You don't have that that fire naturally like you like 235 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: on a megaphone, standing on a platform. 236 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: You understand that there may be consequences to your actions 237 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: or consequences to the policy that you're proposing, and so 238 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: you're more willing to engage and to compromise and to 239 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: figure out a more appropriate path that helps serve more people. 240 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: They're more uncompromising, and it's it's it's similar to far 241 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: right wing ideology. 242 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: Once you stray a. 243 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Little bit, you're you're a rhino, or or you're somebody 244 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: else who's you're not on. 245 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: The team anymore. 246 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: Yes, you betrayed the cause exactly, all right, Michael, Thank 247 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: you very much, Michael Monk. 248 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: See you on the metro. Yeah, on hold your breath. 249 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 250 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 251 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four o'clock. Hey, we got 252 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: vacancies with the moistline and you wake up. People are 253 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: laying around in the hot sun drunk. Maybe eight seven 254 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: seven moist eighty six for tomorrow, got a good chance 255 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: of getting on eight seven seven moist eighty six or 256 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: eight seven seven sixty six four seven eight eighty six, 257 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. You follow 258 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: that it's not that complicated that that the moistline is 259 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: where you can call in and yell and carry on 260 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: about everything that pisses you off about life, especially the 261 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: oppression that we live under here in California. In Los Angeles, 262 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: I have to take a moment here to thank John Fleischman. 263 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna have him on at two o'clock. John Fleischman 264 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: has been involved in politics for a long time, and 265 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: he's got a substexite called so does Itmatter dot com. 266 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on with us at two o'clock. 267 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: He did a story on our show, California Patriot profile 268 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's unrelenting voice for accountability. 269 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Yes, how about that? 270 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: Huh. 271 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: It's a good article. 272 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: It was a really good article, and it was also accurate, 273 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: which I'm not used to. And it actually goes through 274 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: a lot of the episodes that Ken and I have 275 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: been involved in, going back all the way to the 276 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: nineteen nineties right up until today. And it's very complimentary 277 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: and I really thank him. It's really nice. You know, 278 00:12:54,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: the regular media doesn't cover radio anymore because it's too difficult. 279 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: It's easier just to. 280 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: Reprint like Twitter posts. I noticed when Twitter came out, 281 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: media completely lost interest in radio shows. 282 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: You're an original. 283 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're still going and there's still a lot 284 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: of people listening anyway, John Fleischmann, thank you. Well, all right, 285 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: we just had this is interesting how Karen Bass. You know, 286 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: when election season happened, I was, you know. 287 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I have to be objective obviously as a newsperson, 288 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: but that was the when I heard that sound bite 289 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: hours ago. 290 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: That was the first thing. Do we still have that 291 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: sound bite? 292 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: Guy? 293 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, you've got to hear. They 294 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: had a huge encampment cleanup of the vagrants and crazy 295 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: people in Van nys today, and Karen Bash showed up 296 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: and actually said this. 297 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: The idea that people would prefer to live in absolute 298 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: squalor like this, that's what I don't understand. But I 299 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: think most people who advocate for maintaining these conditions do 300 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 4: not like this. They're not sleeping here, They're sleeping someplace 301 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: else comfortably, and they're trying to say to these people 302 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: continue to live in squalor until a. 303 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: Building is built. I think that is atrocious, trocious, atrocious. 304 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: She's fired up there. 305 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: But now listening to a second listening to it a 306 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: second time, I do appreciate the energy there, and what 307 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: she says is all correct. But I'm going to nitpick 308 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: a little here. She does understand why these people live 309 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: in squalor because they're crazy. They have serious mental illness, 310 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: severe mental illness, and many of them are whacked down 311 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: on drugs. Now it does help to stick them in 312 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: a motel, which is what happens. That's the whole Insight 313 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: Say program. So all the disgusting motels in Los Angeles 314 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: have been converted now into flop houses. By the way, 315 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: I spent one night in a flophouse a long time 316 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: ago my early radio career. 317 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Did you flop? I flopped. 318 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: I didn't realize there was a flophouse and I only 319 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: lasted one night. But that's for another day. Just remind 320 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: me if there's a lull leaving, okay, tell the flophouse story. 321 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: So anyway, she should be advocating, okay, because because you know, 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: when you're the mayor, like when you're the governor, you 323 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: could do these photo op stunts. 324 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Right. 325 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: This thing had been there since November, so for nine 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: ten months she knew it was there and did nothing 327 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: about it. And the policy should be as soon as 328 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: one tent pops up out, two tenths out and so on. 329 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: That's what you do when you run a city. You 330 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: have your program that when you find one guy laid 331 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: out in an empty lot, and it's not hard to do. 332 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this thing was right near the four or 333 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: five freeway on ox Starch Street in Van Nights. I 334 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: know exactly where this is. It's very close to the 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: Burbank Boulevard exit. And then actually there was seventy five 336 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: people living there, so that took a while to build up. 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: So she should have done something about it. 338 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: But now it gets so big and you know, everybody's 339 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: been screaming at her. So she comes out and she goes, 340 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't understand why, Well, you should be advocating for 341 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: forced forced mental health treatment, that these people ought to 342 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: be rounded up, not dragged to a motel, but put 343 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: in a mental institution and force the treatment on them, 344 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: or you know, you force them to uh a drug 345 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: addiction center. Same thing, and you don't get out until 346 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: these people are stabilized, either they get weaned off the 347 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: drugs or you know the mental health thing. Some of 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: these people are never going to be good. I mean, 349 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: they're just unemployable and they can't have personal relationships. So 350 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: maybe they should be locked up forever. At the very least, 351 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: if they're appliable enough, they you could teach them how 352 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: to take medication every day, and you have a system 353 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: to supply the medication. But the but the idea that 354 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: they're going to they're gonna sit in a motel now, 355 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: and the hotel, this inside safe system is costing a 356 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: fortune and we don't have it because the city is broke. 357 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: And you know, this is what bothers me is this 358 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: is to some extent stagecraft. 359 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: This is manipulating people. You know, for a day. 360 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: Karen Bass is the star of the show and suddenly 361 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: she sounds like me. But when she says, I don't 362 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: understand why they want to live in squall, well, because 363 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: they're insane. We could let's pump Karen Bass up with 364 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: all the drugs these people are on, and Karen Bass 365 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: would be living in a tent. Seriously, when when they say, 366 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: you know it could happen to any of us. Well, no, 367 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: it can't unless you DESI decide to consume massive amounts 368 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: of drugs, so many drugs that you brain for or 369 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: maybe if you get a nice pick in the head 370 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: and you end up with the brain damage and you 371 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: can't function. 372 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: So she knows what causes this, and she. 373 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: Knows there's an entire industry that she's helped fund which 374 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: maintains the homelessness. Remember, the homelessness is down like three percent, 375 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: So there is no party for this. But okay, it's 376 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: good she got those seventy five people off the street. 377 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Yay for that. 378 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: But we're having to scratch the surface of what she 379 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: should be doing and should have been doing from day one. 380 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: And finally, what happened to the two billion dollars? Two 381 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: billion dollars in homeless money has disappeared. And you know, 382 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: when the reporters were sticking microphones in her face about 383 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: this issue, somebody should have said, why did you need 384 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: eleven attorneys to keep you from testifying in that federal 385 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: hearing about where the two billion went? One reporter can't 386 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: do that just one time and make me happy. Two 387 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: billion dollars missing. Everybody pretends that's not so, and she 388 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: has eleven attorneys to keep her from testifying more. 389 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: I see, I can't be satisfied. I know, I can't 390 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: be made happy. 391 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 392 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: six forty. 393 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and 394 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock. What you missed the show? That's 395 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: what the podcast is for. John Cobelt on demand, and 396 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: you pick up whatever got by you. Coming up at 397 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: two o'clock. John Fleischman, he's got a substack website where 398 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: he writes. It's called sodesitmatter dot com. Sodesitmatter dot com 399 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: and he wrote something on us the show, California Patriot Profile, 400 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's unrelenting voice for accountability. It's a nice article, 401 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: and we'll talk to him coming up after two o'clock. Now, 402 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: I've been shuffling papers here. You always shuffle papers, I. 403 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: Know, and then you walked in and completely distracted me. Sorry, and. 404 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. It's right in front of me. 405 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: After three o'clock, we're going to have David Tangipa on. 406 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: He is a Republican assemblyman up in the Central Valley. 407 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: You know that is ground zero for the unbuilt high 408 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: speed rail, and he wrote a bill and got Newsom 409 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 2: to sign it. Here's another guy, right, we had We 410 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: had Bass doing a public outing today cleaning up a 411 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: homeless camp, and she was right there and she was 412 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: just outraged that people were living like this. Hello, Karen, welcome, 413 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to the party. But you know she's running for reelection. 414 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Newsom is running for president. So he signed at Tangepa's bill, 415 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: which calls for a comprehensive budget and spending plan for 416 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: the Merced to Bakersfield segment. Now, the whole thing ought 417 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: to be scrapped, but what TANGEEP is doing is trying 418 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: to get on paper what this really is going to cost, 419 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: and how much money they're going to spend and when 420 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: when it's gonna be done. And Newsom realizes he has 421 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: to do it because he's been embarrassed by the Trump administration, 422 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. They ripped four billion dollars 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: away from him. 424 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: And he can squawk all he wanted. It's illegal. They 425 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: can't do this. I'm gonna sue you know what, It 426 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter you didn't. 427 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: He thinks that on the Trump side, it's legally binding 428 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: that they pay the money, our tax money. But it's 429 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: also legally binding that you have to produce product. I 430 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: think anybody in business knows that if you don't produce 431 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: a product or service, the other side isn't going to pay, 432 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: and they have the legal right not to pay because 433 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: you didn't do the work unless your contract specifically says 434 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: we'll pay you even if you don't do the work. 435 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: And if you can get one of those contracts, let 436 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: me know. Now. 437 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: Sean Duffy again, Transportation Secretary. He wrote a piece in 438 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: the Sacramento BSACB dot com. I want to read part 439 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: of it for you because it was written so well. 440 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if he did this. It sounds like him. 441 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: He's pretty boisterous, and I want to read part of 442 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: this verbatim. Governor Gavin Newsom has no clue what functional 443 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: government looks like. 444 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: That's the first line. California has just spent sixteen. 445 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: Years and fifteen billion dollars to develop a high speed 446 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: rail network that has yet to lay a single track, 447 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: and he's still defending the project. In fact, he's suing 448 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: to protect this multi billion dollar train to nowhere. Recently, 449 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: as Transportation Secretary I turned off the spigot of federal 450 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: funding for California's high speed rail. We this mooth saved 451 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: taxpayers four billion dollars, officially rescinded from what has become 452 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: a humiliating emblem of government waste. In response, Newsom filed 453 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: a lawsuit as if California hasn't burned enough money already, 454 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: what was supposed to be a line from Los Angeles 455 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: to San Francisco for thirty three billion, already an inflated 456 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: price tag and be completed by twenty twenty has morphed 457 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: into a colossal boondoggle, projected to cost over three times 458 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: the original estimate. Years later, there is still no train 459 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: on the horizon. After they trim their ambition from connecting 460 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: California's largest cities to building a one hundred and seventy 461 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: mile track between Merced and Bakersfield, California's bullet train project 462 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: is now estimated to cost one hundred and thirty five 463 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: billion dollars. Now listen to this part, he says, let's 464 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: put that figure into perspective. For the same amount of money, 465 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: Newsom could buy every San Francisco and Los Angeles resident 466 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: almost two hundred round trip flights between the cities. That's true. 467 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: You can do the math at home. 468 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: That's right. 469 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: For all the money that they want to spend, everybody 470 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: in LA and San Francisco could have gotten two hundred 471 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: free flights round trip. The federal government could also have 472 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: built ten aircraft carriers or overhaul our air traffic control 473 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: system three to four times over. Sean Duffy writes. While 474 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: running for governor in twenty eighteen, Newsom conceded, the project 475 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: is years and years behind. 476 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: The project is wildly over budget. 477 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's a bad idea. News actually said that, 478 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: and Duffy writes that was seven years ago. Actually, any 479 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: project that is both years and years behind schedule and 480 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: wildly over budget is in fact a bad idea. That's why, 481 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 2: after an exhaustive review of the project's mismanagement, delays, and 482 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: cost overruns, I officially pulled the plug on this outrageous 483 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: waste of taxpayer re resources. Newsom characterized my decision as 484 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: another political stunt to punish California. 485 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: But it isn't a blue state issue. 486 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Texas is no stranger to trains to nowhere, and I 487 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: did not hesitate to pull funding for this red States failure. 488 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: It's true. 489 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: In April, what Duffy did is he saved sixty million 490 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: dollars by terminating a grant with Amtrak for the Texas 491 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: Central Railway project that was going nowhere. And this this, 492 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: I'll skip to the last paragraph. The Hoover Dam took 493 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: five years to build, the Golden gate Bridge took four. 494 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 2: Both were built when the federal government was a fraction 495 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: of its size. Today, the President and I are EGO 496 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: to build big, beautiful things again, no more trains to nowhere. 497 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: Newsom cannot refute a word of that because part of 498 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: this is written with his own words. The project is 499 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: years and years behind, the project is wildly over budget, 500 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: his own words from seven years ago. But that doesn't 501 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: stop his stupid lawsuit. And again we'll talk to David 502 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Tangipa because Newsom is on the run on this one. 503 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: In fact, Tangepa wrote a bill, and it's rare for 504 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: a Republican to get a bill passed, but he got 505 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: it passed, calling for a comprehensive budget and spending plan 506 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: for this ridiculous MERCID to Bakersfield segment. And we'll talk 507 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: with David Tangepa right after three o'clock. 508 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 509 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 5: six forty. 510 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio at John 511 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: Cobelt Radio on social media and the moist Ligne is 512 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six and there are vacancies 513 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: wake up eight seven seven moist eighty six or the 514 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Well, has the Palusaines 515 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: been rebuilt yet? 516 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: Actually I was there this morning, so I'll answer my 517 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: own question. No, it has not. 518 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Do you know what the La City Council had time 519 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: for yesterday? They officially banned using the N word and 520 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: the C word out loud at council meetings. Now, the 521 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: council meetings are rarely attended by anyone normal. There's a 522 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: lot of people with mental disorders, the kind of people 523 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: ordinarily you would find intents, But these people have legitimate 524 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: shelter and they come out for the council meetings. And 525 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Daniel Guss is always sending us bulletins and sometimes videos 526 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: of what these kooks do. I kind of enjoy it 527 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 2: sometimes because they really mercilessly rate the city council members. 528 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the speakers are nuts. And they use really 529 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: foul language. But the way they beerate these council members 530 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: is highly entertaining. But then they go over the line 531 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: and they drop the N word and the C word. 532 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: So there is a new policy, and I want to 533 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: I want to see if they how they can enforced this. 534 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: There's a few speakers, according to the La Times, who 535 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: will attack the City Council. Well, the officials wait their 536 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: sexual orientation or their gender, and speakers will now receive 537 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: a warning for using either the N word or the 538 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: C word or any variation, and if they continue with 539 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: the offensive language, they'll be removed and possibly banned from 540 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: future meetings. Marquise Harris Dawson, the council president, said use 541 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: of the word has discouraged people from coming to meetings. 542 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: It is language that if you use it anywhere outside 543 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: this building where there aren't fore armed guards, it would 544 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: get you hurt if you said these things in public. 545 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: But a lot of legal analysts are saying, well, this 546 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: is going to be challenged in court and the council 547 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: will probably lose because it violates the speaker's First Amendment 548 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: free speech rights, because the First Amendment doesn't say that 549 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: you can't use bad language or terrible racial or sexual insults. 550 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: In fact, the city of Los Angeles, here's a good 551 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: use of tax money, paid two hundred and fifteen thousand 552 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: dollars to a black man who was ejected from a 553 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: meeting for wearing a Ku Klux klan hood and a 554 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: T shirt with the N word on it. So he 555 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: wears a klan hood and a T shirt with the 556 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: N word, they throw him out and he wins two 557 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. 558 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: That's our money. 559 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: This is what we're We're sitting here working and this 560 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: crack pot pulled off. 561 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: More than two hundred thousand dollars. 562 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: In factor, is an attorney, Wayne Spindler, So this guy 563 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: not only has shelter, he actually has a profession. He 564 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 2: often uses offensive language at council meetings, and he says, well, 565 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to sue the city. He'll do it by 566 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: reading Tupac Shakur lyrics in good in the offensive words 567 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: until he's banned from the meeting. Don't you get special 568 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 2: protection if you're reading rap lyrics because they use all 569 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: the filthy fellow words. 570 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's always okay. 571 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 572 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: In fact, if you're really good at it. You'll do 573 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: the halftime show at the super Bowl. I'm going to 574 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: file my four hundred million dollar lawsuit that have already prepared. 575 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: If you want to make me the next millionaire. Vote yes. 576 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: He was arrested in twenty Sixteenez. He submitted a public 577 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: comment card showing a burning cross and a man hanging 578 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: from a tree, and he wrote HERB meaning herb west 579 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: and the council president equals N word, but they decided 580 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: not to press charges. See, you do this at a 581 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: public meeting and all that's protected speech. And every once 582 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: in a while the council gets sick of it and 583 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: they try to ban it. But all you see, all 584 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: you're going to do is attract more of this. There's 585 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: going to be more crazies shaking loose from the crazy tree, 586 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: and they're going to show up and start screaming these words, 587 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: and the whole meeting is going to be the armed 588 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: guards forcibly removing the people yelling these words. 589 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Well that's some excitement for your show. 590 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gonna get a lot of great audio 591 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: clips to play. This is what they do at the meeting, 592 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: So the uh ed, we're gonna lose a lot of 593 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: tax money, and we're already paying out hundreds of millions 594 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: of dollars and settled lawsuits. And so now there's a 595 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: whole new category here opening up. All right, two o'clock 596 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: is here, and I know we have somebody coming on. 597 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: It's the guy that wrote about your show. Weisman. 598 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he wrote this really nice article on his substack 599 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: website about our show, Sodoesitmatter dot com. You can go 600 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: read it and then we'll talk about it when we 601 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: come back. Deborah Mark is live in the KFI twenty 602 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John 603 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. 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