1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine down with Jane Kramer, and I heard radio podcast 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: had a little technical difficulties to start this podcast, which 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: made me wonder do we do a question and answer podcast? 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Was that God's way of saying you know what you 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: just need? I was already in my car headed home, 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: so I felt like that was fine. I took the 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: sign and we're out. Oh hey Chris, Hi, Hey Chris. 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Do you hate when people shorten your name? No? I 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: love Chris. I think it's cute. Really, I think Kris 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Jenner actually did it for me. Do you know she's 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: a Kristen? Really? I thought she was Chris No this 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: entire time. I thought, I'm pretty positive false information. I'm 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: probably putting it out there like Google. I don't know. 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: I think she's Kristen. So she made it hot to me. Wow, Yeah, 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: I think Chris is actually cute. You know, I think 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: it's so cute. But I used to get so annoyed 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: with my friend Rachel. I'm sorry if you're listening, but 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: she loved to shorten people's names, like loved it. What 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: were you Joe? Jan? No, No, that doesn't count. She 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: just put a different vowel at the end. I was like, no, no, 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: I was like I was because she was like least 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: odd Chell, you know, Jen, who are the other girls 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: in our group? Ash or whatever, and she'd be like Jan, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I ah, stop it right there, like the plastics, stop 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: trying to But yeah, I know that was but I 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: never really got to. Some people just called me like Ray, 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: So I really love that. I call you Ray. I 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: kind of think it's cute. Okay, you guys live with 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Chris and Ray is the most basic conversation. Maybe we 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: should do that. We should just go by our nicknames 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: day because truly, that's like when we answer question answered, 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: it's not really us, it's it's like a bar name. Yeah, 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: it's like a bar name. It's not really from Janna 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: and Chris, and it's from I'll tell you what Chris 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: would say? What would Ray do? Yeah? I love it. 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: We also have Mark on I want a cool name. Okay, um, 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: but do people call you Marky, Marky, Marcus, Marky mark 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot? I know I wanted to original. Yeah, no, Marco. 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of variations to Mark. You can't really 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: say mark. It was mar is not great. Can you 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: be like M money or M Ditty or something, M diggity, 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: no doubt. But that's a hard one to to like 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: because our names are only four letters, so it's like 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: those are our names are hard to like make a 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: nickname or like not a nickname but shortened like a 46 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Chris with a Kristen. Well. I also just like you 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: could be J and I think that's so cute. Love J. 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: I know, love J the name to clarify, Oh, you 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: have quite a history, Cramer. I gotta keep these nice 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: and clean, the boundaries nice and clean it now there 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: was never any love there, yes, and moving forward quickly. Well, 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: she is Kristen Mary Jenner. And also I don't think 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: you should blame God for you keeping the volume down 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: on your computer. I think that's on you. And we 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: should do a Q and A and we should not 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: second guess it. Okay, okay um does what was his nickname? 57 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: We have to give him niame. I was gonna say 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Marky Mark, but that's you can't do that because that's Walburg. 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: I like like M dog or M diggity. Yeah, I 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: don't know, Like, who do you want to be? Mark? M? 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Who have you always wanted to be? About that? What 62 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: your last name? Last name is Molnitsky, which is complicated her. 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: I used to get a lot a lot of people 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: called me mo or Mr Mo. What about Ni? I 65 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you're saying, Hey, ski about Mark Mo? 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Mo money. I think you're stalling at this point because 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: you're scared of the questions. You're about like, we're going 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: to go a ski? Alright, ski like whatever? Answer questions? Alright, 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: but we got well, we've got them in different categories. 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Can we pick the category? Can I just say that 71 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: I feel unsafe because I thought we would have the 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: questions and we could look at each other and say 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: yes or no, And so you, being the keeper is 74 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: making me feel anxious. I just got a little naxious. 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Not gonna lie. Well, let me give you the categories. First, 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: mom questions, dating questions, sex questions, here for it, friendship questions, 77 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: and one more, the forbidden questions. The forbidden questions are 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: ones we do not think you will answer and may 79 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: just ask me to edit them out of the whole show, 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: which is fine. But we do have a fifth category 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: called asking sometimes to edit things. Um, okay, well, I 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of these categor I'm just sitting down. Yes, 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was the idea of the Q and 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: I episode was drinks. I mean, Chris and I would 85 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: have a glass if you want a glass? Or is 86 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: it too early blood work because I'm forty and I 87 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: need my hormone. That's a question. Alrey, Fine, we'll do 88 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: this stone colts over. Um, let's start with let's go 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: like light. I don't want to go for abidd and 90 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: yet let's go with friendship for one hundred marks. Here 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: we go. Let's see. Okay, Uh, this is from Catherine, 92 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: and you know this is funny. This may actually be 93 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: from Catherine. This is this is planted. The question is 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: do you have tips for setting boundaries with a friend 95 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: who always depends on you for advice but never takes it. 96 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: This maybe Catherine, this, this could be It could be 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: my alias because I felt this way about Cramer. Tell no, 98 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I really didn't Oh no, no, um on this episode 99 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: of Chris and Janna gett No, it's raining, Chris, Um no, 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: tell me talk to me. No. I was just kidding. 101 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: I really do feel like you took my advice, but like, 102 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: go for it. Um, hang on, I actually I say 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: the boundary is just protect your own peace. Would you 104 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: agree with that like I at some point, I'm like, 105 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I am always willing to listen and help, but at 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: some point when it becomes in detriment to yourself and 107 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: a waste of your time, it's like I'm all done. 108 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and I think there's a season two. 109 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Like for example, like y'all heard me ruminate over and 110 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: over and poor Pam I'd walk with her every single 111 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: day and be like, what are you You know what 112 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean? She's like yeah, like where it's like, I'm 113 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: I know I was wearing her out post divorce, like 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: in the process of all of it, but I think, 115 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, friends are I think there comes upoint if 116 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I was if I was still doing that, I think 117 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: I think you or anyone would be like, hey, like 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: it's time you gotta um. It's hard to it's like 119 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: to phrase it where it's like it's really hard to 120 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: watch you continue down this and like, you know, I've 121 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I've kind of said what I could say, and you know, 122 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to place the boundary because it's really 123 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: hard to to see this like repetition right, well, it 124 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: just becomes I hate to say, like a waste of 125 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: your time. But at some point like we're all living 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: big lives. If I'm just it's the definition of insanity 127 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. 128 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: So if I'm saying the same thing and you're asking 129 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the same thing or saying the same thing, then we're 130 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: just stuck. And I think it's how much the friend 131 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: takes it onto, like sometimes where it's like all right, 132 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: like I've said my piece and like you know, and 133 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I feel like we're really good. It's like we've all 134 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: set our pieces and our stuff and then we kind 135 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: of just check in sometimes, but we don't. We're not 136 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: bringing it up constantly, which I think helps the boundary. 137 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: So it's like my boundaries, I'm not going to bring 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: it up unless you bring it up. Well. I also 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: would say this is almost like flipping it inside out, 140 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: but it's like don't yeah, don't make it your stuff 141 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: and don't take it so personally. Like I remember with Mike, 142 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: I would always say to you, like, if you love Mike, 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I love Mike, but the minute you hate him, I 144 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: have a garbage bag and a plan. Uh So I 145 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: feel like I think that's the more empowering position to 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: take in advice giving. You can't if you're giving advice, 147 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: you have to be doing it out of the right 148 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: intention and it doesn't need to be about you. It 149 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: just needs to be about helping someone. But I can 150 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: totally get it wearing someone down too or I think 151 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: that's when you have to step in and be like hey, 152 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: like I'm I've said my piece and and now like 153 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's time to either you know. But again, 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: like you know, with Katherine to to me, it's like 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: she was like when when everything happened and I was 156 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: potentially thinking of not divorcing Mike again, Like that's when 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: she was like, I can't work with you anymore because 158 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I can't watch you, can you know, continue doing something 159 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: that I know is like hurting you? Hurting you and 160 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: l I too, right, so and now was the boundary, 161 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: she said, you know, And I was like, oh, all right, yeah, Mark, 162 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: what do you think I think that's good advice for me? 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I just think when my daughter is in this situation 164 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: and I always give them advice and somemes they don't 165 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: take it, and that's okay, you know. For me, it's 166 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: just kind of like I'm gonna give it, and then 167 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: you've got to make your own choices in life. So 168 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I think that the advice it's not about you is 169 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: good here. I think if they come to you for advice, 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you give it, but don't put so much into it 171 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that you're gonna beat your head into the law if 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: they don't take it. If they don't take it, they 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: don't take it. It's their life, exactly. Gentle pushed another 174 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: friendship question. Um Katie says, my friend's wife has been 175 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: cheating on him. What can I do or say to 176 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: help him? My friend's wife has been no Katie is, 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: but I think she's friends with a guy or could 178 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: be a girl. Her friend's wife has been cheating on him. Okay, 179 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: there we go. Katie has a male friend whose wife 180 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: has been cheating on him. What can she do to 181 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: help him? So she's friends with the guy or she's 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: friends with the wife. She's friends with a guy? Does 183 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: she know? Do I have questions? There's a lot. Yeah, 184 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: there's more to the star than we know. Well, for 185 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: what friend who's being cheated on? What can you do 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: to help them? I don't know anything about that. Mark. 187 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I say stay consistent and stay the safe space for 188 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: the friend, because I think it is a very lonely place. 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Janna can speak more probably intuitively about that piece of it, 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: but I would say it's a lonely place to be in. 191 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: And if a friend can be the safe place where 192 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: you can keep going and turning and supporting and reminding 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you of your strength and your dignity and your intention 194 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: and your future, then you just stay the safe space. 195 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And I would say just continue to speak the truth 196 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of times when you're in 197 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: that position of being cheated on, you really start to 198 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: blame yourself and things that you could have done differently. 199 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: And I think having someone that kind of just speaks 200 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: truth into you and like be that truth seekert, it's like, 201 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, um, listen and speak truth, like hey, you're 202 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: you're a good person because you are and you don't 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: deserve this, which you didn't and um, I think that's 204 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: important to yea um. But just again stay stay, keep 205 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: a boundary. But then, just like you said, safe space, 206 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: I love that. I also would say, like little energy 207 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: to the hatred of the other one. Yes, you know 208 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: it's so funny, You're like yeah, yeah, because I'm just 209 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: like it's it's like you already know that person is 210 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: being you know, not a great person. So the last 211 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: thing you need to do is like hear that over 212 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: and over. Let's just like pour the effort into the 213 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: person being cheated on and like give them empowerment and 214 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: love and safety, and let's keep the focus away from 215 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: the dirt bags. Yeah, agreed. Can I have sex for one? Please? 216 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Can we can move back? We can n back and forth? 217 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Can I have a deodorant sponsorship for five? Because I'm 218 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: getting sweaty? I was going to add it that last one, 219 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: don't sleep with him? Oh yeah, Joanna has requested a 220 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: sex question, and here it comes, no pun intended mark act. 221 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: We'll start general and then go specific. How long before 222 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: you have sex with a date? How long before oral? 223 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute my microphone and like grandmar digging from here. 224 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: I honestly think it depends on what you want for 225 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: the relationship, right, So like a lot of times like 226 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm dying because I know too much. Go ahead, No, No, 227 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like for like hot Girl summer 228 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: for example. Um, it's like my girlfriends were like, don't 229 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: sleep with them on the first date. And it's like 230 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: and also it's like but when you know what it's 231 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna be if it's just gonna be sex, like, I 232 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: don't think it matters what day or like what date. 233 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: To be truthful, if you really like the person, I 234 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: say wait, but if it's just gonna be sex, like 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: one of them was just sex. And for our younger listeners, 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: I would say, wait till you're married. Hi named him. Well, no, 237 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: this is a really actually this is interesting because it's 238 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: going to go and like side swipe to faith for 239 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: a second, needs do quickly. But my so I want 240 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: to be a group leader for church and every but 241 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: my so I have I can't get the job. Listen. 242 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: So I've met with the pastors like the I've met 243 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: with the pastor's wife. We've sat down a few times. 244 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: And I've also sat down with I have a lady 245 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: that comes to my house every Wednesday and she's just 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: like disciple in me and talking me through the Bible 247 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: and when the check up. So one of the things 248 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: that if you know it's going to be sex, to 249 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: just go for it. But listen, one of the things 250 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: that we're talking about is one of the guidelines to 251 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: be a leader is you can't have sex out of marriage. 252 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, writing your resignation letter. She leaves, 253 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: thanks again, Kathy, appreciate all your time. But I'm also 254 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: speaking to another friend who again is very big into 255 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the Christian world. She's in her you know, late forties, 256 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and she's dating potentially someone, and you know, she's like, 257 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait to have sex till i'm married, And 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, but you've already had sex even But it's like, 259 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: and so I really have to work through that with 260 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Jamie today because I'm like, I'm struggling with like that 261 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: piece of it, because I'm like, why can't I still 262 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: be a follower? Like there's I don't know, Kristen, come on, 263 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: we'll listen. I can't not standing on some holy ground here. 264 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: My daughter was born January five and I was eight 265 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: September seven. So after you carry the one, it seems 266 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: like there's a remainder of unqualified to answer the question. 267 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: But like you're still you, We're still a Christian, you 268 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: still like so I think I just like, I'm really 269 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: like that piece. I'm actually really truly struggling with. I mean, 270 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: i'd struggle if I was dating again, i'd struggle, But 271 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm also like the connection, it's important. I know, because 272 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: I know how important sex now is in a relationship 273 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: like it is, especially for me. It is very important, 274 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think it needs to personally be there. And 275 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: I will say this when it go to the oral, 276 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna hop back over on the lepisode of the ground. 277 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna step off holy Land for a second. This 278 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: is really running the gamut. But like I've had sex, 279 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean, like guys, I can I am 280 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: blushing for you. I've had less oral than sex. Same 281 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: because I almost think it's more intimate. I do think 282 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: it's more intimate. Oh, I feel like I can already 283 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: see the messages coming in, But I don't. I think 284 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: maybe women agree with that. I don't know. Um, not 285 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot of women in Nashville's what I've learned to 286 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: agree with that. Well, they're just handing them out. Oh really, 287 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: no pun intended. Those two actually interesting and a bunch 288 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: of job offers. Okay, alrighty oh wait, I take that back. 289 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, that actually is true too for the other 290 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: side too, So I'm flipping it so like I have. 291 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: If I'm going to be totally if we're gonna get 292 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: really honest here, I want to die already know, but 293 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: like I can't even say, oh good receiving. Receiving was 294 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: even lower really like my ex husband the third mark, 295 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: the quality of this audio is just ratchet. We are 296 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: all over and wanting to die. He didn't do that 297 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: for the first time until we were maybe getting back 298 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: together when he got out of rehab. Would that be 299 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: an intimacy issue maybe, but also like and then before that, 300 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe one or two guys before that. Okay, 301 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: low when you know me another end of the spectrum. 302 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: So I lived in Los Angeles. I've had sex, you know, 303 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: yeah we had Yeah, but that piece was low and 304 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: then ever since then, I've just been like, go ahead, no, 305 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: I still I don't know. It's still like for like, 306 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: I get like really insecure, insecure, but I get really shy. 307 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: So I would say I would say, I aways like 308 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no no, let's just have sex, like 309 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: come up, come on, come on, sending the elevator for you, 310 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: come on up. Um. I would say the same though 311 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: really very intimate. I just feel like it's such a 312 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: vulnerable maybe place to be time to move forward. Can 313 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: we take it? What do you? Marcus didn't have any 314 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: any questions around any of this. Oh, certainly not. I 315 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: just come out just to clarify the answer to the 316 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: original question, which was, if you're laying a foundation for 317 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: a long term relationship, you may want to wait a 318 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: few dates. But if you understand what's going on and 319 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: neither of you and you both are on the same page, 320 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with jumping in sooner. I agree. And 321 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: also like, listen, once you give I said this to 322 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: my uh younger girlfriend of mine. I said, once you 323 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: give them sex, they're kind of done with you. Some guys. 324 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: It's true though, in the dating world, like I've had 325 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I've waited and had sex with a few people and 326 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: I was gone, Like they were just like all right, 327 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: what I wanted. I slept with so and so, and 328 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm done even if I waited. Okay, I'd like to 329 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: also say that I am too emotionally connected, Like I 330 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: am not one of those people that can do that 331 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: and not be emotionally connected. So if you know yourself 332 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: well enough, I think you have to answer your own question, 333 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: because to me, it cloud so much. I've never just 334 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: been DTF. If the kids still say that, so, it 335 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: would that would layer, and it would layer it up 336 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: for me and then I wouldn't be able to emotionally 337 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: disconnect when I think. That's where like my therapist and 338 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: we were talking about borning Jewish guy. She was like 339 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: that that whole thing was just a straight like you like, 340 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: you have to know what it is because after that, 341 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: it's like but then but they all everyone knows me. 342 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I get connected once I'm having the sex was good. Yeah, 343 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: that's true. The only place he wasn't boring was that. 344 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: So that's what And I was like, well, unless everyone's 345 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: having sex with him on Thanksgiving, he's not in the 346 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: mix anymore. Yeah, so okay, So so I would just 347 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: say wait and for me, like I've you know, for then, 348 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm waiting group leader. I'm going to be a Bible 349 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: leader and I'm going to figure this out with Jamie today. 350 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: Can you just give the name of the church so 351 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: moms can know not where to send all impressionable children. No, 352 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: it's a single mom's group. That's the thing too. I'm like, 353 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: how you like, I want to lead a single mom's group. 354 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: That's great, that's like I'm trying to know them. The 355 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: purpose thing. I'm like, all right, I want to lead 356 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: a group and like have community and and and talk 357 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: about how you're not having sex. Apparently so good for you. 358 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Kramer trying um, do you know who tinks is? No? 359 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Thinks it's a TikToker talked about dating. She's got a 360 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: podcast now. Anyway, she has a very interesting theory on this. 361 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: When do you sleep with someone? She says, it almost 362 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because when you meet a guy, he puts 363 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: you into a box. He either puts you into the 364 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: box of I want to date this person, and if 365 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: you're in that box, there's nothing you could do to 366 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: change that. You could puke out his shoes, you could 367 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: sleep with him the first night. It doesn't matter. He 368 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: wants to date you, you're in that box, or he 369 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: puts you in the hook up box, in which case 370 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You can make him wait three months 371 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: asleep with you. When he does, he's going to be 372 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: gone because you're in the hook up box and there's 373 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: very little you can do to get out of one 374 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: of those boxes. Well, once he's in your box, I 375 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: decided which box you're in, He's out of your box 376 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: and out of your life. Is that what you're saying? 377 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: Once he stuck with you box Yeah, it's basically like 378 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: he already knows that box is going to put you in, 379 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like and actually, that's a really 380 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: good way to put it because I can definitely see 381 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: the actually see that too, yeah, with like oh that 382 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: he definitely put me just in this box or this person. Yeah, 383 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: So that doesn't make sense. So then the bottom line 384 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: is sleep with him when you're ready, because he's either 385 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: a dick or he's super interested. Amen. Let's se another 386 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: sex question. We've had a long time on that one, 387 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: so I'm just kind of kind get to a good 388 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: one here. What was it like being intimate for the 389 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: first time with someone other than your husband? H like 390 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: when we got divorced. I guess, yeah, um it was, 391 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: you know what. I never felt sexy in that marriage. Um. 392 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I remember before I found out about the affairs. I 393 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: remember we were sitting at brick Tops, which I still like, 394 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: it's not funny, like when you have a memory from something, 395 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: it's like, I will never forget when I sat at 396 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: brick Tops and he was just like we I was 397 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: were talking about sex, and like, you know, I got 398 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: a little emotional like why he wouldn't sleep with me? 399 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: And he was like, well maybe if you wore something sexy, 400 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: and I just remember being like, and I saw, I 401 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: started crying and I left the restaurant. And because I 402 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: always just wore like his big T shirts, I thought 403 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: that was sexy. So I just never ever felt sexy 404 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: in the relationship, you know, obviously with our history and everything. 405 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, I got my boobs ten days 406 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: before I found out about things. So he never got 407 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: to touch my boobs. Oh I like that. He never 408 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: like any of it. So like, and then I got this, 409 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: like you know, divorce, I lost a little weight and 410 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: I started to feel really like sexy and then like 411 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, I got some attention and that made me 412 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: feel good because when I the first month post divorce, 413 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I was like, no one's ever gonna want to be 414 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: with me and the scot you know what I mean, 415 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: I just like it just was like I was hating 416 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: on myself because I'm just like I'm washed up, I'm 417 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: the I'm the problem, I'm the like all these things. 418 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: And then it just kind of switched. And then I 419 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: when I started to feel a little attention, that felt nice. 420 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: And then the first time like sleeping with someone, it 421 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: was just like I just like it was sexy. It 422 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: just felt secy. I felt sexy. I felt like more 423 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: in my body and like someone really wanted to sleep 424 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: with me as opposed to the last seven years forcing 425 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: someone to sleep with me. And that's a different feeling, 426 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: like to really like someone wants to touch me, and 427 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: like it feels a lot of people that want to 428 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: touch you, sorr, I'm like grubbing them and now I 429 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: noticed really nestling the girls. Girls. But also like in 430 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: a lot I got a lot of hate for like 431 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: showing off my boobs, but I'm like I was, I 432 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: felt I wasn't trying to get thirsty traps like but 433 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: at the same time it felt good, like for the 434 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: first time, like I felt sexy and like so yeah, 435 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to show it off, like I'm not, you know, 436 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: one of the Instagram models that show it off every day. 437 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: But even if I was like, who cares, let them 438 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: be sexy, let them show it off if that's what 439 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: they want to do and whatever, It's like I was 440 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: doing it more for like me, like yourself felt sexy, yeah, 441 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: because I never felt that way a competence too, yeah, yeah, yeah, 442 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: good answer. Christie wants to know where the strangest place 443 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: you've ever had sex? No judgment, Kristen, I wish I 444 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: was gonna I was gonna say it an ice maker 445 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: in a restaurant, on top of an ice machine at 446 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: a restaurant where Applebee's no just in location. It wasn't 447 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: a chain, I'll say that. It wasn't. No, it was 448 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: not from Michigan. And you've got a tramp stamp, Cramer. 449 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm just a product of my generation and they used 450 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: to be stars. Um, I would I would give that. 451 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: I think that's it, But I'm going to think for 452 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: a minute. Okay, I think that is pretty where's yours? Honestly, 453 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: you guys, I am so boring. I'm like the in 454 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: bed missionary. Yeah. Like I'm just like a really like 455 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: which um yeah, but I kind of like, again, want 456 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: to sex it up a little bit, Like I kind 457 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: of want like, I can tell you where there's an 458 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: awfully great ice machine. But wait, you've got it out 459 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: of a bed before. I mean, I got caught one 460 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: time in high school on my parents, I mean on 461 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: my high school boyfriend's couch. Um that was embarrassing, and 462 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: in the condom fellow and his dad the condom as 463 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: my fucking naked self is running up these stairs. More 464 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: did because we left, Um, we left Sadie Hawkins early 465 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: to like go have sex. And so I slide this 466 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: note underneath my mom's door because the mom goes, you 467 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: have twenty four hours to tell your mother. Was like, 468 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: and so I slid a note under the door to 469 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: my mom, and I was like, is the first time 470 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: we ever read sex? I'm so sorry it wasn't, but 471 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, I lied, And so we're gonna need something. 472 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna need something a little more raunchy. Okay, I'm 473 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: trying to think in a car. I've had sex in 474 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: a car, but I mean nothing where it's like we 475 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: I pulled him from the restaurant, which that is like 476 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: kind of a fantasy of mine, going like like meet 477 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: me in the restaurant and meet me in the restroom 478 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: in five minutes fantasy. Okay, So when it happens for you, 479 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I just want one emoji the ice cube, and that's 480 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: all I want. And I don't need any other details. 481 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: I just need to know we have ice ice babied. 482 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, I'm kind of hot though, Yeah, of 483 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: course it sounds hot anybody Mark, anybody in a plane? 484 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Have you in a plane? You guys? I do have 485 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: a funny story. Friends of ours a hand drop something 486 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't like, but I got a Mark. 487 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm dying. I'm dying. Preston and I are on a 488 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: mission to be in the Mile High club together. Yeah. 489 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Can I tell one funny story that is like going 490 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: to sound bougie, but it's not, but it kind of is. 491 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: Friends of ours were like, Hey, after this football game, 492 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: why don't you take our plane? It has to go 493 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: back to Nashville anyways, private plane. So Preston's like brown chicks, like, baby, 494 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: this is our time mile High. I get ready like 495 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: he's talking dirty the whole way to the airport and 496 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: we get there and it's like the sweetest little chitty 497 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: bang bang wind up plane. It's essentially a golf cart 498 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: with wings. And I was like, mmm, put that back 499 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: on the vision for Mark. What about you? I mean, 500 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, as you know, I'm one of the more 501 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: boring people who ever exist. There was a balcony at 502 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: the Grand Californian Hotel at Disneyland. There's an out of 503 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: the hotel, there's a balcony. Yeah, is that why your 504 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: face is up backstage at Disneyland. Do not service this 505 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: human being? Yeah, identification photos a little raunchy. I'm not 506 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna lie. Oh gosh, I love it. Okay, alright, moving on, 507 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: moving on, Let's see, let's go to some of the 508 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: dating questions. Sandra says, at what point do you think 509 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: it's okay for your kids to meet the person you're dating. 510 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: We have new boundaries in the queendom about this. What 511 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: is it? Remember it went on the white board after 512 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: his name. Uh huh, that was a mistake A long time. Yeah, yeah, 513 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: it needs to be like when you're like in love 514 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: lah blah blah blah blah blah blah, love love like 515 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: a long long time. Um, I'm definitely, I bet. Here's 516 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: the deal. It's like it's so hard because it's like 517 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: where I struggle with it, is like, all right, let's 518 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: say I'm in love and I'm dating this person. If 519 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: they're not good with my kids, I'm done. So it's 520 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: like a part of me is like I almost want 521 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: to see how they are with the kids, so I 522 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: can make more of a a um with that, Like 523 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I can make more of a judge informed decision. Yeah, 524 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: of whether or not, like I want to continue dating 525 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: this person because if they're if they're if they don't 526 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: get on the ground with my kids and roll around 527 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: and like you know, it's like that's what I want 528 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: out of someone that I end up with, Like that 529 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: just really goes in there and just like is with 530 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: my kids, and like if it's like weird, I'd be like, 531 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: oh man, I just kind of not wasted, but like 532 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: spent six six months or so with this person and 533 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: now you're meeting my kids and now it's not great, 534 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and so I don't know. So that's that's where I 535 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of like struggle. I'm almost like, can you introduce 536 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: them as like a friend one time just to like 537 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: want to see like maybe like when I because I 538 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: have like you know, Shane and Josh come over, Like 539 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: I have a lot of guy friends and their wives, 540 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: and like I have like you know, other guy friends 541 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: that like you know, when my director friends like Daniel 542 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: came over. It's like so it's like I could almost 543 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: maybe can you play it like that where it's like, hey, 544 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: when there's more people over, like for example, tonight, if 545 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: I was to invite hit him, you know, like, oh, 546 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: this is my friend whatever, just to see like how 547 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: he interacts. Sure, because like Rocco will come over like 548 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: pay him and he's just like you know, you know, knuckles. 549 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: But then also that might be really uncomfortable for that 550 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: person too, So it's like that weird and I don't 551 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: want to judge them off of like a friend uncomfortable 552 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: nous too. What Mark helped me out here give me 553 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: some fatherly advice on this one. I think you're I 554 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: think it's good. I think you're right to wait. But 555 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: also it might be good for them to just know 556 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: this person exists in the world before they find out 557 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: it's your boyfriend or someone that's going to be involved 558 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: in their lives in that way. So like a meeting 559 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: without like any sort of like touching. Well, and here's 560 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of what I what I told this one person 561 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: if we continue hanging out, is it has to be 562 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: their idea. So what I do is I'm always going 563 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to say like, hey, this is my friend, like this 564 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: is my friend so and so, and then maybe one 565 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: day and be like hey, maybe when they do want 566 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: mommy's friend so and so to come over, And it 567 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: has to be Jolie's idea and Jason's to have that 568 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: person come over, like I wanted to be their idea 569 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to my idea. So I think that hopefully 570 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: can help other people to like I don't and I 571 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right way to do it. Like, 572 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: but in my mind, it's like, it's not me having 573 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: some guy come into our space. It's they've maybe talked 574 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: on FaceTime a few times and they've maybe like I've 575 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe mentioned him as a friend. Where it's like that 576 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: is like they don't know about the boyfriend status until 577 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: months later, whereas it this is just like, oh, this 578 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: is like mommy's friend that comes over, it's really fun 579 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: and plays with us. That kind of feels good to me. 580 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: But it has to be like, hey, baby girl, do 581 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: you want you know, mommy's friend to come over? Yeah? 582 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: Or no? And then okay, cool, it's like the idea. 583 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: Do you like that? Mark? I think that's good. Yeah. 584 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Just the last thing you want is something to meet 585 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: every guy you go on a date, Like you always 586 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: hear those stories of people who just bring this guy 587 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: home every other week, this a new guy, and it 588 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: really can be traumatic. Yeah, And I think I mentioned 589 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: this one time, but I had a guy show up 590 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: last year. He's like surprised me, and I go, what 591 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: are you doing here? I have my kids? Like, you 592 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: have to leave. He's like, well, you're having like a 593 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, a pool party. I know I talked to 594 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: some and so who was here? I go, you have 595 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: to leave, like you're not meeting my kids, like and 596 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: and that's when I was like, I was like no, 597 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: like I'm like and then someone else to kind of 598 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: did the same thing and I immediately stopped, like it 599 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: was sweet. He was trying to help something in my house. 600 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: But I texted saying, hey, text me when you're here, 601 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: and I'll go outside visitors Like the visitors almost here. Well, 602 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: I come in from out of my room and he's 603 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: in my house fixing my clock, and I go, what 604 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah? I was like boundaries. I was like, 605 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like my kids, Like I 606 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: was like my kids seeing anybody? Yeah, So very protective 607 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: now because of that last situation, Sarah wonders, do you 608 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: have a type of guy that you're most attracted to? Christen, 609 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't have a type. If you saw X and 610 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: you saw current husband, you'd be like opposite day. Um, 611 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm attracted to. You do have a type, Jana's could 612 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: all be lined up to be like framed to be 613 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: identified for a crime, and you'd be like, I think 614 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: it's a number four, number five. Um, I am wildly 615 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: attracted to humor. It matters to me way too much. 616 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: So if you looked at all my boyfriends husband's all 617 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: lined up, you just you'd have to listen to them 618 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: talk to understand. But like, my husband is one of 619 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: the funniest, wittiest human beings I had met, and I 620 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: felt like that's what keeps it that is just so 621 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: wildly attractive to me. He is also really good to bed, 622 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: So okay, I just like to throw it out. He 623 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: deserves a little that little shout out because it's true, 624 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: all right, and it does matter. So my type is 625 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: a lineup, oh boy, And I mean, you know, I 626 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: kind of feel like I'm all over the map. But 627 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: like the ones that I chase or they all look 628 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: the same, they all look the same. Yeah. At one 629 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: point I was like, so we're all done with former 630 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: football players? Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, I mean this kind 631 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: of leads nicely the next question from Jenna and the 632 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: dating category. She says did you date John Mayer? I 633 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: mean that definitely the Bodies of Wonderland little comment that 634 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: definitely got you know that the other quick, Um, we did, Yes, 635 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: we did go on a date. M hm, Yes we did. 636 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: Uh huh um. It was just one date and we 637 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: talked a little bit before. But um, he's a lovely 638 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: human and we just were not compatible. And earlier you 639 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, if it's the right situation, there 640 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: are no limits to what happens on a first date. 641 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Did not have sex with him? I did not have 642 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: sex with him. It was yeah, no, we we literally 643 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: went on one day. We were going to have another one, 644 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: and we both decided that it was not going to 645 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: be long term. So there's no point. This is great 646 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: but he's great, so like you know, like I mean, 647 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't speak to him, but I like I wish 648 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: him the best. I think he's great and you know 649 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: he's Yeah, nothing nothing bad to say. It was. It 650 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: was a great date. We had a great time, and 651 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: I think you had good You had good conversation. Yeah, 652 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: we had great conversations, great date, great time, and I 653 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: think you know you Um, it's when you don't see 654 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: it going further there I don't think at this age 655 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: it's makes sense to continue. Yeah, and a few things 656 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: just in the line with both of us, and we're 657 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: like a cool take care, no hard feelings, zero good luck. 658 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: I had a wedding hashtag all lined up that was 659 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: going to be running form mayor, and I was excited. 660 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: I was excited. She was very excited. All Right, I 661 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: think what we should do is take a break, and 662 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: when we come back, I'm going to run by the 663 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: forbidden questions and see what you want to do with them. Okay, 664 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: run from them, run run Hi. It's Bethany Frankel. My 665 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: time on The Wheelhousewives of New York is a few 666 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: years behind me, and now I'm ready to put the 667 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: wheel back into the reel Housewives. That's where my new podcast, 668 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: Rewives comes in. Isn't your typical rewatch podcast. I'm watching 669 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: only the most iconic episodes from all cities. I'm sharing 670 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: never before heard stories of what happened behind the scenes, 671 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not just pulling in cast members for postgame analysis. 672 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing something a little more interesting. If you've ever 673 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: seen an episode of The Wheelhousewives, you know the drill, 674 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: but beyond throwing drinks, and legs. There are lessons about marriage, 675 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: divorced friendship, money, parenting, and fame if you have the 676 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: right minds, analyze and dig deeper. So I'm bringing on 677 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: unexpected thought leaders and celebrities to get their take on 678 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: the chaos this season, I sit down with Elizabeth Moss, 679 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Neal and Susie orm and Griffin Johnson and more. 680 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: You think that there isn't much to learn from flipping 681 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: tables and yanking wigs, but that's where you're wrong. Listen 682 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: to Rewives with Bethany Frankel on the I Heart Radio app, 683 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. We're 684 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: back with Forbidden Questions. So just so you know how 685 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: this turned out. Hannah, our producer, sent me over the 686 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: list of questions and I picked my favorites and then 687 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: she goes, who there are some that I didn't even 688 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: put in there, Like, Okay, those are the ones I want. 689 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: She said, well, I don't think she'll answer them. Well, great, 690 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: if she wants to veto them, if she wants to pass, 691 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: she can do that. It's her podcast. But I think 692 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: we should at least una buyed because this is the 693 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: stuff people want to hear about I want to vomit. 694 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: What was interesting is we take questions when we're out 695 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: on wind doown on like the tour, but we get 696 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: to vet them. And so I just came into this 697 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: podcast thinking we were going to be able to vet them, 698 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize again that Mark had this control. 699 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: You can vet them. Here's what I'm saying. I will 700 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: read you the question. If you don't want to answer 701 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: it or even cannot, maybe there are something you cannot answer. 702 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: That's right, because we're good Christian women. Go ahead forbidden 703 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: Fruit for five, say Vito, whatever you want to say, 704 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: and we'll move on to the next one. All right, Tracy, 705 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: will you share how you found out about Mike? Well? 706 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be more fun. Well 707 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: there's more. Um. Well, the question is will I share? 708 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: The question is will I share what happened with Mike? 709 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: Oh you found out about Mike? Yes, I will share 710 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: how I found out about Mike? Pre order pre order 711 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: the preorder your book? Now, Okay, fair answer, that's technically 712 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: what if I if I'm going by the question, that 713 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: is the right, that's the answer. Yes, I will share, 714 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: um And we're counting on you to pre order. All right, 715 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: this is from the real Mama Bear, who says, how 716 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: does it make you feel that Ian keeps talking to 717 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: the press about you? Um? I didn't know that he 718 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: was still talking to press. Um. I don't. Well, I'll 719 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: say like I tried to avoid reading gossip sites. Um. 720 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: I'll just say for me, what I realized with that 721 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: whole situation, um, was that certain outlets, um, the one 722 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: that he spoke to, don't really don't really care about 723 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: the truth. Um. Because when I got the email from 724 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: I'll just us Weekly, when I got an email from 725 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: them saying that he did a sit down, Um, you know, 726 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: I sent them the proof of you know, the lies 727 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: and other information that I had received from people. Um, 728 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: and they still chose to run the story. Um. She 729 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: Basically the editor was like who or you know who 730 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: was writing the story basically said like, you know, I 731 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: should show the receipts on my Insta. And in that 732 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: moment was when I was like, the publications don't care 733 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: about the truth, They just care about the drama. Um. 734 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: And I wanted so badly to defend myself um, because yeah, 735 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: like I again, I sent to the editor of this 736 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: this information and I wanted to defend myself on my page. 737 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: But again like that's what this, that's what thus Weekly wanted. 738 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: They wanted me to. They wanted more of a story 739 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: and more of a pickup and more of a you know, um, 740 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: more of just um, more of something they can write 741 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: about and you know UM. To me, the intentions of 742 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: both were very ugly UM. And I had to look 743 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: inside and go, Okay, why have I continued to be 744 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: an unhealthy situations and continue unhealthy patterns and relationships? Um? 745 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: And I realized in that moment like I'm actually kind 746 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: of glad, not glad, I shouldnt say glad. That was 747 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: a big turning point for me because I was I 748 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: really had to like go inward and do my work 749 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: and go, okay, like, where's the work that I need 750 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: to do on myself to have like continued to be 751 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: in um a relationship where I didn't trust the person 752 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't recognize or I didn't you know, 753 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: get their red flags and um. You know what I 754 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: realized now is like when I move forward in a 755 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: new relationship, like if someone lies to me and from 756 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: the get I can't stay in that relationship because I 757 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: have so many trust issues that I don't like who 758 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: I turned into and I think you know again, for me, 759 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: it's like I look at it and and even just 760 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: like in the dating world where I'm at right now 761 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: in my dating life, it's like I have to just 762 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: really listen and see and observe and um and just 763 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: um make sure I'm not following following past patterns and 764 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: just kind of checking in with my gut and myself 765 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: while I'm in this new dating world. Because again, like 766 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: I for sure percent know that like if someone straight 767 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: up lies to me in the beginning or is not trustworthy, 768 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: like I have to bounce. Um. So yeah, the interesting 769 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: part to me is even if I'm not in it 770 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: with you, right, even if I'm not your friend thirty feet, 771 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: you spoke zero of him, you never made official statement, 772 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: pictures are deleted, we are moving on. You were so 773 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: tactful about how you handled all of that. Thanks. Well. 774 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: What you just said segways beautifully into our final question 775 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: from Holly, which is who are you dating. I'm not 776 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: saying yet, I'm the past. His body is not a wonderland, 777 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: what actually is it is? But I just I'm I'm 778 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: really like I want to be careful and I'm being mindful. 779 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of times too he's cute. He'll 780 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: be like you, he's like you have it's like your eyes. 781 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: It's like I can't tell. And I go, I need 782 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: to go turtle slow with this turtle slow. And I said, 783 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: I've moved very fast and past relationships. And I was 784 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: just like, yes, there's things I'd love to say because 785 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: my love adict wants me to say like or you 786 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: know whatever. I was like, but I just like, I 787 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: need to go really slow, and like I'm terrified. I'm 788 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: terrified to get bamboos all again. I'm terrified out of like, 789 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, are you going to sit down with us 790 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: weekly and spread lies? Are you gonna like you know? 791 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: I was like, what is your intentions? It's like, so 792 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm literally like my toe is in, but I'm 793 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: like my body's out. I have enjoyed how protective you 794 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: have been about this relationship because he's not even he's 795 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: not even queen like I mean, no, yeah, yeah, that's 796 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 1: what I like about it. Like I've told you before, 797 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: I like the way I like the way your eyes 798 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: light up when you talk about him. It's something I 799 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: always watched for but I also just enjoy how wildly 800 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: private you've been about him, even with friends, and I 801 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: think that matters, Like there's something different. I want to 802 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 1: make my own opinion, and I love Queendom. I love 803 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: you guys, and people ask I saw one of the questions, 804 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: are you still friends with Pam? And like, of course, 805 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: like we're like, we've been trying to get together since 806 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: like I think your Queendom child Like everyone's so busy 807 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: with all breaks in this that they're there, but I'm like, 808 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: I really like, I think I've always when I pick guys, 809 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: I pick them based off I think. And this isn't 810 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: really crappy thing to say, but other people's opinions sometimes 811 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: are louder than my own opinion. You're in a chapter 812 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: of trusting yourself more, which is what I really like. 813 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: That's what I gain out of the privacy of it. Yeah, 814 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: you don't need like I wanted to make my up 815 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: for myself, though, I am going to go through the 816 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: vetting process well tonight she gets to meet him tonight 817 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: for the first time, so tbd mm hmm. But the question, 818 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: the answer to that is is like it's no, I'm 819 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: not a toe, is in? Bodies out? And is the 820 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: body out? Well? I need to meeting with church pastor 821 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: and I gotta like catch me hosting the Bible study. 822 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: But anyhow, I feel like we should do a part 823 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: two because there's a lot of questions left. So maybe 824 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: we should do a part two later on or not, 825 00:45:48,360 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: or it could just be done and that's fine. Bye guys.