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Speaker 2: I should say, welcome to the twelve and twenty six podcasts.

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Speaker 2: This is the companion show to our twelve and twenty

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Speaker 2: And do you know what the next one is Corey

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Speaker 4: Let's watch his next clip, which I think you kind

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Speaker 2: Feels ready for us to move on, folks. Two hours

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Speaker 3: Man something about black bear hunting, Yanni and forest fires

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see it's a little smoky in that

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Speaker 2: So we were not hunting the McCarthy's place. We were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, colors, the foliage would be popping. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 2: Farm fields to feed in. Yeah, the best of both worlds,

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Speaker 3: And then you were there in June, right, so it's

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Speaker 2: It might be because they're more focused on rutting. So

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be more than one sal, and there's gonna

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Speaker 3: It is kind of a win wind for him. They

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Speaker 3: Maybe they'll find a lady too. Yeah, that probably They

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just put a bit of oats and then I'll

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Speaker 5: the season, I usually just use oats, just oats and

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Speaker 2: How do you get your hands on enough grease to

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Speaker 2: Do you think they would eat it less if it

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Speaker 2: It, No, kid, unless you soak it.

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Speaker 5: They don't eat fish because they're not raised on it

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Speaker 2: And he meat.

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Speaker 2: So they fill up, they leave, they come right back,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he was saying, they don't like fish, which

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Speaker 2: And now I would imagine that, like anything, if you

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Speaker 2: only bates him for about eight weeks total. Maybe that's

433
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: enough time. To change the flavor of bear meat. But

434
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: again it's mostly corn and oats. There's like some oil

435
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: on there. There's a little bit of the pastries and

436
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: the sweet stuff birthday cake. Yeah, I just don't think

437
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: it's quite enough. The only time that we've experienced that

438
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: is with the Prince of Wales Island bears. They're literally

439
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 2: are eating fish or seafood year round, like they're always

440
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: scavenging on the beaches, whether it's they're eating mussels or

441
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: they got salmon coming up the creeks and or eating

442
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: those whatever it might be that bear meat. Steve one

443
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: time gave me a chunk and said close your eyes

444
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: and eat this, And when I ate it, it was

445
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 2: a smoked chunk of bear. But when you ate it,

446
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: you thought you were eating salmon jerky because it just

447
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: tasted like a salmon.

448
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: That sounds pretty good.

449
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it actually wasn't bad at all. It wasn't like

450
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: it was rotten salmon. It was just you know, smoke.

451
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: It was more of a smoked salmon flavor than a

452
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: smoked red meat flavor. So yeah, I don't think it

453
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: changes it changed it at all.

454
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: So did you notice any different taste you did that

455
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: what was the recipe that you cooked up up there

456
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 3: at their their camp. Did you notice any off putting

457
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: taste in the neighbor the fat that you've been eaten on.

458
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: No, the fat is completely What makes bear grease so

459
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: great is that it's odorless and flavorless. I mean, I

460
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: just I think that if you did a blind taste

461
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: tess and you had I don't know, olive oil and

462
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: avocado oil and whatever grape seed oil, bear would land.

463
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Bear grease would land in the oils that are just

464
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: the most flavorless and odorless. Like I feel like olive

465
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: oil I could probably pick out I'm trying to think

466
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: of one other one that's it's like just very very bland.

467
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's just no flavor to it. It's great.

468
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: That is.

469
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: From YouTube at UA two eight nine to four asks

470
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: isn't it bad to feed the bears on that stuff?

471
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: We're all health?

472
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the health of the bears. Again, if it was

473
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: a year round program, it probably would not be good

474
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: for the bears. Everything in moderation. You know, we did

475
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: hit this in a mediator podcast where there's some sort

476
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: of study being done. I think maybe even North Carolina.

477
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: They excuse me, outlawed some these types of bait because

478
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: literally the bears there were getting tooth decay, tooth rot. Interesting,

479
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: but again I'm assuming it was like a year round

480
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: program or just a lot of it. You know, bears

481
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: aren't brushing their teeth, and it was you know, it

482
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: was affecting the affecting the bear. So yeah, again, too

483
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: much of it, probably not good follow up question someone

484
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: asked when this encouraged bears to raise garbage cans. I

485
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: talked to Craig McCarthy this morning about that they do

486
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: not have like a higher prevalence of bears in garbage

487
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: cans or at people's houses than anywhere else where there's

488
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: bear human interface. You know, I think that once these

489
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: bears are off the bait, once the season ends again,

490
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: there's just so much food in that habitat between acorns

491
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: from those oak trees and then all of the stuff

492
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: that they're growing, canola, corn, soybeans, it's orgum, you name

493
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: it, it's all there. Like those bears are just have a

494
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: lot of food at their disposal.

495
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: Fawns, calves, moose, deer.

496
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure at some point, you know, when there's

497
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: when there's the when it's fawning season. I'm sure they

498
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: snack on a few beavers. Yeah, and beavers.

499
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, okay, moving on from baiting m H. A few

500
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: folks asked if you could detail your archery set up,

501
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: your bow and arrow set up. Where were you shooting?

502
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: That was a Matthews lift X at at seventy pounds.

503
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: You know, my draw length is just shy at thirty inches,

504
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I shoot a about a thirty inch arrow. Maybe my

505
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: arrow is twenty nine and a half. I'm shooting the

506
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: rip tkos with a two hundred grain head on them.

507
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: There's a weighted insert as well. I think my total

508
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: arrowwight is right around five hundred grains for that setup. Yeah,

509
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: anything else do you want to know about my bow

510
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: and arrow set up?

511
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: No, that was pretty good. I don't think we're going.

512
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: To single bevel broadhead from iron will. That's what I

513
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: shot through it, and yeah, got a nice pass through

514
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: and the bear died fifty yards later, you know, less

515
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: than thirty seconds we heard the death moan.

516
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember if you covered it in the

517
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: film or not, But where did you hit him? Did

518
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: you hit the middle just forward of middle of middle?

519
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, you just can't we we've replayed it,

520
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: which is often fun to do in your video haunts,

521
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: as you can replay and see exactly where you hit.

522
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: But the light's fading just enough, that arrow's moving just

523
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: fast enough that it's hard to tell exactly where it

524
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: is because the bear, you know, shrugs just a little

525
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: bit as the arrow's going in there. It was hard

526
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: to find the middle of the middle because your site

527
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: picture is just full of black hair and it's low light,

528
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: and there's no shoulder crease, there's no ribs that you

529
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: can you know, see, there's no other coloration that you

530
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: can kind of work off of, you know, like a

531
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: prong horned antelope. I mean, it literally gives you a

532
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: spot to aim on its side where there's like a

533
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: right hand, you know, a right corner of white coming

534
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: up into its vitals and literally if you pull put

535
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: a bullet on that corner, it's money. Yeah, an all

536
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: black bear does not have that. And so you can

537
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: actually see me in the video sort of like moving

538
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: my pins around, going up and down. I kind of

539
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: come out of my peep a couple of times, just

540
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: because I really wanted to be sure, you know, and

541
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: try to get it into that middle of the middle spot.

542
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, we did a little neck cropsy and hit

543
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: gone right through the lungs beautiful.

544
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, how far did he go? Maybe fifty yards Okay,

545
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: through some thick stuff, but easy blood trail even with

546
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: all that fur that could be tough to blood trail.

547
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Bear. Yeah. You know, like any animal, people are always like, oh, come,

548
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: there's no blood right off the bat. I don't think

549
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: that there is blood right off the bat, not the

550
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: kind of blood that you really want to see. I mean,

551
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: sometimes you see it when you get a muscle wound

552
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: and you get some muscle blood like spurting right off

553
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: the bat. But really, when you go through the vitals,

554
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: that stuff just doesn't start bleeding. You know. You basically

555
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: have to fill up that cap to start coming out

556
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: the edges right or the motion to start slashing it

557
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: out of there.

558
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with a bear, it has to it mops

559
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: it up like a sponge before it actually hits the ground.

560
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: Sure, bears can be very you know, if you've gotten

561
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: the lungs good or you know, one of those big

562
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: arteries where it's going to cause the blood to be

563
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: coming out of the face right, that still takes time,

564
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: and animals go so far so fast that people are like, oh,

565
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: they have blood the first fifty yards. Well, you know what,

566
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: that's not an issue for me. If I don't have

567
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: blood the first fifty yards, it's just like, it's just

568
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: not a thing that I think about. And usually if

569
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: you made the right hit and there's a bunch of blood,

570
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: it's like the animals they're dead at fifty yards. So yeah,

571
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: not a thing I'm too worried about.

572
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: I was curious you weren't using illuminated knocks. I was

573
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: you were, Oh yeah, excuse me. Obviously I didn't watch

574
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: it enough.

575
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: But that's good.

576
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 3: Obviously the lot of shots on those big boars are

577
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: going to be at last light. Yeah, so much be

578
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: able to see, especially if you're film and look back

579
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: at it.

580
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Sure, see where you hit it.

581
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: Let's see at c JJ ninety eight asks, doesn't safety

582
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: say to use a gear, harness and pulley to get

583
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: your bow rifle crossbow into the stand with you? Yet

584
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: Jannis climbed up with it in his hand.

585
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

586
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: What do you have to say about that?

587
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: So, yes, I knew this would be a thing. The

588
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: first night I wore a saddle and I was tethered.

589
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: In the second two nights, I did not. So these

590
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: stands were what I will consider a low stand ten

591
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: feet maybe your butts twelve feet off the ground, Like

592
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: you're just not that high. You don't have to be

593
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: that high, right, just like a little bit. And it's

594
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: probably more for to be able just to see and

595
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: get the right angle over foliage and stuff, more than

596
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: trying to hide, you know, like with deer hunting, trying

597
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: to get twenty feet up all the time because it's

598
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: like part of the hide. So, yeah, it was a

599
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: huge stand. It was a two person stand. It had

600
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: the bar around it. Yes, could it be bad if

601
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: you still fall eight feet or ten feet off of

602
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: a ladder, one hundred percent? It Uh, Just in that

603
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: moment I felt very safe that I could make it

604
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: that short distance. I wasn't that high off the ground

605
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: that I could deal with this safely, you know. And

606
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: then the second and the third night, once I was

607
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: in the stand, I wasn't. I wasn't strapped in again

608
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: big wide platform. I was only you know, my feet

609
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: were like eight or ten feet off the ground.

610
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: Long enough for that seven foot bear to grab your

611
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: foot if you wanted to.

612
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. But yeah, so one

613
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Kids, when you're climbing up into those stands,

614
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: you should always use a rope to pull up your

615
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: rifle or your bow, like when I'm in Wisconsin, I

616
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: always do that. It's probably impossible with the way I

617
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: climb up into a tree, probably be impossible to go

618
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: up with the bow in my hand, But yeah, that's

619
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: the way you want to do it. Again, it was

620
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: literally like three steps for me. It just seems so

621
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: short that I wasn't worried about it. Well, thanks for explaining.

622
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: We have another clip of the film to show and

623
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: we'll explain what we're seeing here. Phil take it away.

624
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out.

625
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: So for those who couldn't see what was going on

626
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: on the first day of your hunt, we see Craig,

627
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: your outfitter, standing feet away from the bait drum and

628
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: feet away from two bears before he leaves it to you.

629
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: A bunch of folks wrote in asking what the heck

630
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: what's going on? Why are those bears so close to

631
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: the guy and not getting spooked? They almost look tame?

632
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: Can you explain the scene, Yanni.

633
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, And you can see on my Instagram too.

634
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: There was other videos and you can check out Craigs.

635
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: Excuse me, this Lacroix is really giving me some gas

636
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: in my chest. Ah, there's other videos out there where

637
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: that same day, we're messing around, we're setting up camera

638
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: gear and whatever, and behind our backs there's bears already

639
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 2: coming to the bait because we've already prepped the bait.

640
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: And at one point I try to just sneak alongside

641
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: the can am and I get within yeah, two or

642
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: three feet where I could reach out and smack him

643
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: in the face if I wanted to write it's a

644
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: young bear. So I was talking to Craig about that

645
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: this morning and he's like, he's like, look, you gotta

646
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: look at it that. Here's this food source. They're interested

647
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: in it. There's a bunch of bait in the area.

648
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Those young bear it's a competition. Those young bears are

649
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: pretty much like, if I want to get some of this,

650
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: I got to be here first. Sure, And so I like,

651
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: there's certainly accustomed to the sound of the buggy coming in.

652
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 3: It's like a dinner bell probably.

653
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: Oh, and so they're there and they want to get

654
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: first crack at it. Right, and they're ballsy enough to

655
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: where they're like, yeah, other things whatever can am humans,

656
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: I'll take my chances because I want to get some

657
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: of these galleries. So yes, it's like it's again, it

658
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: does make it. It gives it this like oh, they're

659
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: like they're tame. Well they're tame when they're young and

660
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 2: they're hungry, and as they get older and they start

661
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: to dominate, they start to not be quite so bold

662
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: in during daylight hours. Like they've had weeks where the

663
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: big bores only show up in the dark and the

664
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: clients don't get to kill a big boar because those

665
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: big boores haven't figured out yeah, out smarter them somehow.

666
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: Well, there's other scenes of bears getting really close to you,

667
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: and I was curious once that can am leaves. Where

668
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: did those bears acknowledge you three, their two cameramen and

669
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: yourself in the tree.

670
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a weird thing when you've never been

671
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: there to get used to that, because they sort of

672
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: like come in and then they glance up, but then

673
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: they just go back to what they're doing, so they're

674
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: very aware of your presence. Again, I just think that

675
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: it's like this bait is here. They want those calories.

676
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: There will there that risk reward. They're willing to do

677
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: the risk for the reward. Again for whatever reason, the

678
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: big boar is not doing that that much. So they

679
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: know that the threat is there. And like we're still

680
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: when we're setting up on those baits, we're still thinking

681
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: about where are the where's the boar gonna come from?

682
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: What's the wind doing? Because the wind was set up

683
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: just right for when that boar came in that he

684
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: did not smell us like it was a kind of

685
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: a crosswind, and so had he like looped the crosswind,

686
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: he would have smelled us. But he came in on

687
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: the trail and he just he just never cut my wind.

688
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: It could have been a totally different thing had he,

689
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, looped around and gotten our wind. I don't

690
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: know what the result would have been. That bear never

691
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: knew we were there.

692
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: The boar so well, we have some clips showing just

693
00:40:35,800 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: how close some of these bears got to you. Oh,

694
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: such good climbers. Looks like he's kind of taking his

695
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: time too, Is that right underneath you?

696
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of coming up the side where there's

697
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: no ladder. Those are max his feet. You could see

698
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: and I'm on the other side of the tree.

699
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Another bear coming from the field.

700
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one you can see, it's that's a cub.

701
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: That's that was had come in with that with the

702
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: sal which you can see underneath Eli there a big

703
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 2: cinnamon bear is a sow and she had a black

704
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: cub and a blonde cub. And I'm not worried at

705
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: all about that little cub like that, dude, you know,

706
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: you can pop him in the nose and you're and

707
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna turn him the other direction. But if

708
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: that soal thinks that there's danger in that tree because

709
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: you just popped her, you know, cub, that's the problem,

710
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: is that, like you piss off that sow because that

711
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: soal is not that much smaller than the boar that

712
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: I ended up killing. She's a tank, yeah color yeah,

713
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: so yeah, we didn't have anything like that happened in

714
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: our tree. It just happened to be that when that

715
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 2: sow sent those cubs up the tree, that that one

716
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: chose that one that Eli was in.

717
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what was happening. They were retreating from that

718
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: boar coming.

719
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: In, yes, exactly. And that happened a lot like every

720
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: single night, there'd be a soal in there with cubs.

721
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: They're doing their thing. And then a lot of times,

722
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: even before we saw the other bear, the sour would

723
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: make some grunt, some noise, some movement, and those cubs

724
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: would just be, you know, thirty feet up a tree

725
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: in a heartbeat because the boar's coming in.

726
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: So what would mom do.

727
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: She'd hang out kind of at the base the tree.

728
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: If she had to shed, she'd sort of charge at

729
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: those other bears and run them off. But yeah, I

730
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: think she was out of all the bears we saw

731
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: in three days, she would have done that to every

732
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: single bear except the one that I killed. Oh really, Yeah,

733
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: if if she would have charged him, it would there

734
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: would have been a little battle Royale on our hands. Yeah.

735
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: Those look like yearlink cubs.

736
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: No, those were definitely not yearling. Those were probably second

737
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: year cubs. Those were pretty there's the second night you'll

738
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: see it. There's a lot of clips on it on

739
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: the episode, but the second night, those are probably more

740
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: like yearlink cubs, like one year old, not like born

741
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: that year in the in the den, but one year old.

742
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: I think those were probably two years old and getting ready,

743
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: because those were like decent size. I mean, when that

744
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 2: one's next to Eli, it doesn't look that much smaller

745
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: than Eli. No. Oh interesting, you know, so coming on

746
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: two hundred pound bear, you know, I doubt that's a yearling.

747
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: They're eating good. They are eating good.

748
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: Hard to say, obviously, Oh yeah, for sure. Let's say

749
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: another question from at Relaxing Drives six oh seven five.

750
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: I've never hunted bears before, but I'm confused about how

751
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: you all get away with moving and talking so much

752
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: and not spooking the bears. Can you please comment on this.

753
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: I understand the bears see very well, but they get

754
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: face to face with the cubs in the tree and

755
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: seem to be unbothered. Are they aware you are there

756
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: and just don't fear you?

757
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? One hundred percent they just haven't. I

758
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: think they do fear it, But again it's that risk

759
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: reward for that bait. And again we're not out there

760
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: doing jumping jacks and hooting and hollering like we're doing

761
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: some talking. It's very quiet. I think that if you

762
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: climb down out of the tree, you're gonna run the

763
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: bears out of there, right if you start yelling and

764
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: talking in a normal voice, you're gonna probably run the

765
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: bears out of there. I don't know. We didn't. We

766
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: didn't test that because I think that the whole goal

767
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: is that you're trying to like minimize your presence so

768
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: that the bore who is sketched out about the situation

769
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: so that you can fool him into coming in.

770
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's seeing you move is one thing. But do

771
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: you think you must have had pretty decent wind when

772
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: they were all hanging around there or did they not

773
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: really mind that.

774
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: As it just it depended. But yeah, we never like

775
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: those your stands, never set up upwind of that bait.

776
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 2: Sure right all the time. Yeah, but well that would

777
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: be the wrong version. So it's set up in a

778
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: way so that most of the predominant wins of the

779
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: area are going to not be blowing right at the bait,

780
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, I think if they were again,

781
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: because they don't see that great this fella seems the

782
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: thing that they do or this person but bears right,

783
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: in your opinion, not the best vision.

784
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: Can't fool their nose. But yeah, they're they're a little

785
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: I'll question what they see until they smell it or

786
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: even hear it. Yeah, they'll look at you for a while,

787
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: but if they smell it, you may not ever get

788
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: a chance to see him. It's over normally. Let's see,

789
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: here's another question. What signs do you look for to

790
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: tell a bore from a sow on camera?

791
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: M definitely just a stockier front end, especially those with

792
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: those younger bears. I don't know if it's impossible, but

793
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: I don't think I could tell. But as those bears

794
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: get older, the boars have just a more shoulders on them,

795
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: and then they'll they almost start to walk. And you

796
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: can definitely see it with the bear that I shoot

797
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: when he comes in, there's like a little bit of

798
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: a swagger his front toes or pointed inward almost a

799
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: little bit. And just the body shape the sow seems

800
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 2: to be rounder, I guess if that makes sense. They're

801
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: pear shaped. Definitely rounder in the butt, yeah, rounder in

802
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: the butt. Yeah. Other than that, it's it's basically the

803
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: cub thing.

804
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: It's not easy. It's nice when you get some time

805
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: to look at him. Oh yeah, But in spotting stock,

806
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: especially around here out west, it's hard to get enough time,

807
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: first of all to be able to tell the difference.

808
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, make sure cubs is the biggest giveaway, like

809
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: you said. But that bore was obvious, like you said,

810
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: coming in hot, swaggering, owning the joint.

811
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Let's see.

812
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: Moving on, we want to flash another clip from the

813
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: film which shows just how smart black bears are.

814
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this one we hung that basically like

815
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: you hang some food in the back country in bear country,

816
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: looped it over a limb, had it hanging down, and

817
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: then had tied it off there on that tree that

818
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: where we had that mote. Cammer never even looks at

819
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: the barrel. He goes straight to the not so easy

820
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: to get beaver carcass and never gives up. He climbs

821
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: every tree in the vicinity multiple times. He eventually realizes

822
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: that the yellow rope is attached to the beaver, and

823
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: after enough manipulation, he gets what he wants. Oh there's

824
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: something about that beaver meat that a barrel full of use.

825
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 4: So smart at our video playing services having some issues.

826
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 4: But that was basically the end of the clip.

827
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got it. That's a very abridged version

828
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: that bear. I think that bear knew that we had

829
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: put that. I don't I don't want to say that

830
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: he knew that we put that beaver carcass there. But

831
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: I think that he knew that somehow we were associated

832
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: with it, the same way that he kind of knew

833
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: that yellow rope was associated with it because he came over.

834
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: Because you got, the whole thing happens there in a

835
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: span of a minute or two, but that actually lasted

836
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: closer to an hour. Wow. And that bear came and

837
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: climbed our tree multiple times. And he definitely had a

838
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: little bit of a huff and a puff and an

839
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: attitude to him about it when he was coming up

840
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: that tree, as in kind of you know, and again

841
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of anthropomorphisation here, but you're thinking

842
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: that the bear is like, hey, you guys have something

843
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: to do with that thing, Like I need to come

844
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: up here, and maybe if I do something with you guys,

845
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: that'll make the you know, the beaver carcass fall out

846
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: of the tree. I don't know, but like I said,

847
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: he went up every single tree and just messed around,

848
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: messed around, messed around until finally, you know, he gets

849
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: a hold of that rope and then he sees that

850
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 2: when he's holding onto the rope, the carcass is moving,

851
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: and he just kept messing with that rope until the

852
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: carcass fell down. Clay in his new book, he dives

853
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: into I haven't read this part, but Clay told me

854
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: all about it about how black bears are, like it's proven,

855
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: it's study that they are the most curious animals, and

856
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: like they're able to do more problem solving than any

857
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: other wild animal on our continent. Right, So this is

858
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: like a prime example of that bear being like, oh,

859
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: I want that. I'm going to figure out how to

860
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: get it, as opposed to just being like, oh, it's

861
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: out of reach, I'll go and eat the stuff out

862
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: of the barrel. There's a trip. And again, that was

863
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: worth the price of admission, was to go there and

864
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: watch that bear problem solve.

865
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: That And was that bear able to devour that whole beaver?

866
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: Did somebody else come and see.

867
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: He ran off with it eventually? And then other bears

868
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: would you know, go into the woods where he was

869
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: and you'd hear some growling and some you know, I

870
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: could see what was going on. But again, like they

871
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: love that meat, and I'm sure someone else got a

872
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: little little bits and pieces of it.

873
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: Well, smart little bugger, mm hmm, he hasn't got an

874
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: interesting coat. Too, he's kind of trying to become a

875
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: either cinnamon or blonde.

876
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that or he's rubbed out hard to say.

877
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have rubbed that outer coat off. Let's

878
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: see where are we at here. We talked about how

879
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: they love the beaver meat over the sugar and the baits. Yeah,

880
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: you did eventually get a chance at the target boar

881
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: and made a pass through shot. Your reflections on site

882
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: picture and taking the shot were interesting since you've never

883
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: been that up close and personal with a bear.

884
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: Sure, and we kind of covered that. It's just like

885
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: it's a big black target and your site picture. Had

886
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: he been at thirty yards, it'd be easier to pick

887
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: the middle of the middle because you can just your

888
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: sight picture, you can see the tire bear. But when

889
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: he's at twelve yards is I think how far the

890
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: shot was, Like, you can't see the top when you're

891
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: looking through your peep you can't see the top of

892
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: the bear or the bottom of the bear. You can

893
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: just see black, and so it was just a little

894
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: bit of a challenge to find the middle of the middle.

895
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: We got a clip here if you.

896
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: What do you think about that looks good man? Looks

897
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: got good blood mine. See there's some bubbles in there.

898
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ah on here.

899
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: It was tough because you know it's getting a little

900
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: bit dark and you're so close to him.

901
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. That like your whole site picture is just black bear, right,

902
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: And so I came off him like three different times,

903
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: going Okay, there's his leg. Okay, there's this, you know.

904
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: Bottom of the bear.

905
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: There's the top of the bear. Yeah, okay, there's the middle.

906
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's the middle of the middle.

907
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the next one, Corey. Yeah.

908
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: YouTube question from at regular guy dash J four l

909
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: asks honest question. If the bear was wounded, did you

910
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: have a backup weapon? And can you even have one

911
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: in Manitoba? A pistol is what he's referring to.

912
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know the answer as far as can

913
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: you have one in Manitoba. I don't think I could

914
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: have traveled up there with a pistol. I'm not sure.

915
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: I didn't look into it. I did ask that of

916
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: Craig when we were tracking the bear, Mike, would this

917
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: be something you normally do? And he normally does have

918
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: I believe a shotgun, I can't remember it was that

919
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: or or lever action some kind of a small, handy

920
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: maneuverable weapon that he can pump off some rounds if needed,

921
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, and he usually does pack that, but he

922
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: had forgotten it. He did feel confident with my I

923
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: report on you know that we had thought we made

924
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: a good shot. We heard the death mone, we heard

925
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: him crash not far away, like he felt like we

926
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: were going to walk in there and find it. But normally,

927
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: he said, when he is tracking, he does have a weapon,

928
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: but I was I was not carrying one.

929
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: How long did you guys wait after your shot?

930
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean we really only waited because, well, one, you're

931
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: making a television piece of television, so you know, the

932
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: camera guy's got to wrap their stuff up, and you know,

933
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: we're trying to shoot stuff and make sure we got

934
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: it all covered. And then I forget how far away

935
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: Craig was, but it took him I don't know, twenty

936
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: or thirty minutes to get there maybe, and so yeah,

937
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: not that long, yeah, thirty minutes. Well that helps to

938
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: be patient. Let him expire, just make sure, yeah for sure,

939
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: for sure.

940
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 3: Okay, we want to show the bore you got Phil.

941
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, he's a thank look at that.

942
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: He's a beast. Look at that animal. Nuh, that's a

943
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: mature bar right there.

944
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 5: Someone we're looking for.

945
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: You got him?

946
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 5: Wow?

947
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: Look at him?

948
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Pause.

949
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's a big bear. Oh yeah, look at

950
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 5: the head on him.

951
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that suckers thick.

952
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: Oh he's awesome.

953
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: Thanks buddy, Thanks Craig.

954
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I love that bloody handshake.

955
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

956
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: What a giant, giant beast.

957
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. People asked if that was my biggest one. Well,

958
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: that's my only bear. It's not true. I killed one

959
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: of the mingus treed in our backyard once. That was

960
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, seventy five pound bear. He was eating

961
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: our chickens and when I called the ward and he's like, look,

962
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: you can kill him or I'm gonna have to come

963
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: and kill him. If you kill him, you can put

964
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: the meat in your freezer. So I chose that route.

965
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: So this is the first one that I went on

966
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: a hunt and got. M Yeah, I'm stoked. It's a

967
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: big bear on the top of that one. Yeah, I

968
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: mean he's got a we think we I texted Craig

969
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: if you remember what we green scored him nineteen and

970
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: change is what he thought on this on the skull,

971
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 2: which I think twenty inches is like Bunakrockett minimum twenty

972
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: one is all time, and he thinks he's squared around

973
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: seven and a half feet. So yeah, big old, big

974
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: old giant bear. I mean, I'm soked on its. Bears

975
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: are kind of nice. It's kind of like a turkey

976
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: in a way, where any mature bear just like any

977
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: mature Tom. You know, Tom's become a little mature sooner

978
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: than a bear. But they're all nice because they're all

979
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: like big and fat and got a big skull on them,

980
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: And like, I don't care if it's an eighteen inch

981
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: skull or twenty one inch skull is I don't think

982
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: that's ever going to be a thing for me, or

983
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: if the hide is six feet versus seven and a

984
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: half feet, Like, I was just happy with the experience.

985
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: Now that I have a skull and a hide at home,

986
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm probably not going to go try to

987
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: kill another bear to have another skull and more hides.

988
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: We just don't have things to do with them these days.

989
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: Like my hide is basically laying on the in the

990
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: middle of our living room, which is fun Mingus has

991
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: been taking a lot of naps on it. I've laid

992
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: down on it a little bit. I have a dream

993
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: or a vision where once I move my woodstove to

994
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: a place where you can actually right now, it's like

995
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: in the entry area, which I understand why the guy

996
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: did it, but I would prefer if it was like

997
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: in a corner of the house where you can sit

998
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: in a comfortable chair in front of it watch the fire.

999
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: I'd like to have that hide laid out in front

1000
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 2: of it there where I could have my hound dog

1001
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: sleeping on it. I could kick my feet up on

1002
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: the hound dog that's on the bear hide. You know,

1003
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to preserve this hide by

1004
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: any means like I'm gonna use it. I'd like to

1005
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: use it as little literally as a rug of some

1006
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: sort on the ground. I'm not going to just hang

1007
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: it up on the wall just to be just to

1008
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 2: be able to look at it. That being said, I

1009
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: don't need more hides. I don't need more skulls. What

1010
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: I do need more of is bear me.

1011
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: Oh amen.

1012
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: The more I eat it, the more I like it.

1013
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: And it's just such a nice change of pace from

1014
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: all of the super leannessin you know, whether it's elk deer, pronghorn, moose, whatever.

1015
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: All that stuff just gets to just kind of be

1016
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: the same after a while. And it's nice to have

1017
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: some meat. It's got some fat in it. So I'm

1018
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: on one hundred percent and to keep hunting bears, but

1019
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: primarily for the meat.

1020
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good changeup. And here in Montana and

1021
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: a lot of places seasonally add to your freezer in

1022
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: the spring.

1023
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: People feel obligated, I think to do stuff with hides

1024
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: and skulls, especially with bears. I mean, in some places

1025
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: you have to pack it out. But honestly, it's for me,

1026
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: it's not That's not what I'm into bear hunting for.

1027
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: I want the meat and the fat. Like we're almost

1028
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: out of all of the I know. Someone asked, well,

1029
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: we can just go to the next question.

1030
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, let me let's bring this one up at

1031
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: max straight six two three five asks what are your

1032
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: thoughts on scoring bears. I think we've established that is

1033
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: there a better way to identify trophy status or does

1034
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: it even matter? Skull size is very difficult to assess.

1035
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: Even some pumpkinheads don't score as well as you'd expect.

1036
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: As much of the appearance as can be soft tissue.

1037
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm guessing yours went around twenty inches. A great example

1038
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: of what our province has to offer must be a

1039
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 3: local manitobin. But yeah, good point. I mean, if you

1040
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: mentioned that skull was under twenty I harvested a bear

1041
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: last spring, that sounds like we need to clarify. This

1042
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: might have a little bit bigger of a skull, but

1043
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: he did not go as long or as squared as

1044
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 3: your bear, so he'd had a big, wide skull, which

1045
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 3: probably helped that score. Growing up, we just worried about

1046
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 3: at length, like you were always looking for a seven

1047
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: foot bear, which is pretty rare to find in Montana.

1048
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: I know of a few, but they're hard to find.

1049
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: That's an old bear. It doesn't always mean it's an

1050
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: old bear. They're just a big long bear, so you know,

1051
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 3: good jeans on the hoof or on the paws, they say.

1052
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: Scoring a bear in the field as far as Boone

1053
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: and Crockett and Pope and young is very difficult. You'll

1054
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: know if he's got a big old noggin on him.

1055
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: But most people that I know look for the length

1056
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: knows to tail. As far as what establishes a big

1057
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: bear and the size of a bear that you can

1058
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: brag about to your friends or whatever.

1059
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to continue to try to kill

1060
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: bears and just kill ones that aren't the size of

1061
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: a black lab. Someone asked, or maybe this was just

1062
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: Corey asking how much the bear weighed and how much

1063
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: rendered fat did I get off him? The bear was

1064
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight pounds. Because I had to

1065
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: travel with all that back from Manitoba to Montana and

1066
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, airplanes and all that, I got surprisingly more

1067
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: meat and fat back than I thought I would. I

1068
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: filled up I don't know three yetty soft sides, and

1069
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: I still had I felt like the majority of a

1070
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: bear left because I had you know, hide and skull,

1071
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: and so we had enough time because we killed on

1072
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: day three and didn't leave until day six or seven.

1073
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: That we processed well. Rough process basically just got the

1074
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: meat into ziplocks and we were able to freeze most

1075
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: of it, and so I actually then just put it

1076
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: into big, heavy duty garbage bags and just literally filled

1077
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: a duffel bag I think up to one hundred pounds,

1078
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: and we just paid the extra fee on shipping that back.

1079
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: So I had an amazing amount of meat and fat

1080
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: coming home with me plus hide and skull. But in

1081
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: the end, when I rendered that fat down, I ended

1082
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: up with about two gallons. I think I probably could

1083
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: have gotten at least another gallon, maybe two. I mean,

1084
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: we weren't being like super picky about it when we

1085
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: were breaking it down again because I knew I just

1086
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: had limited space to get at home. But yeah, there's

1087
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: two gallons. Super stoked on it. I've been given away

1088
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: too much of it and I'm only I'm down to

1089
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: like two pints now and some sort of starting to

1090
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: savor it a little bit. But I like sharing it

1091
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: because people are like, no way really bear oil, and

1092
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, check it out, and they're like, man,

1093
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: it's just so pure. You would never know, you know

1094
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: that you're eating barre oil.

1095
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: Two gallons is an insane amount compared to some of

1096
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: the bears that I've I've taken the fat off here

1097
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: in Montana. Have you talked to Clay about the two

1098
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: gallon mark? Is that is that a lot for down

1099
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: South too?

1100
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: Man? I just think a lot of it, Like that

1101
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: bear he ended up winning three eighty eight. Craig the outfitter,

1102
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: felt like, had we killed that bear in the fall,

1103
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: he could have easily been four eighty eight, if not

1104
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: five point fifty, right, because they're just and that's pretty

1105
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: much all fat. You know. I'm sure there's getting some

1106
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: muscle too, but they're just putting on fat. So I

1107
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: think a lot of it just depends on what status

1108
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 2: state you catched him. I know a guy that killed

1109
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: a giant bear, like a solid six and a half

1110
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: footer here in Montana, and he killed it on the

1111
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: last day of rifle season, which is late November. And man,

1112
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: he said that they actually spent more time packing fat

1113
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: than meat. Wow, Like there was like in just like

1114
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: wait wait, wise there was more weight in the fat

1115
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: than there was in the meat, and I forget that

1116
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: was like six six gallons. I think that he got

1117
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: like I almost didn't believe him, but when he started

1118
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: describing sort of how the he said that the fat

1119
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: just sort of there was a layer that just went

1120
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: all the way right down to his paws and then

1121
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: it sort of stopped right where his paul was. But

1122
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: from here it just jutted out and you could just

1123
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: like jiggle the fat all the way up his arms

1124
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: and just all just covering his entire body. So I

1125
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: it just depends on you know, what he's been eating

1126
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: and what time of the year it is, because that

1127
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: that's a you know, right before he goes to hibernate,

1128
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: that's when that bear is going to have the most

1129
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: fat on him.

1130
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: Well, let's see, we know what you're doing with the hide.

1131
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, mingus is sleeping on it right now. So

1132
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: last question, which a ton of folks asked, do you

1133
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: plan on doing this hunt again?

1134
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, no doubt. Like I said, with any hunt,

1135
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: I say, it's a lot of times to Steve going

1136
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: to Mexico for kus dear. I like going the first

1137
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: year to a new ranch because you get to experience

1138
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: a completely new ranch. Have you don't know anything about it.

1139
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: It's just one hundred percent mystery adventure is great. You

1140
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: spend a week there. The next year, I'm excited to

1141
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: go back because I have some relationship with that landscape.

1142
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, don't need to go to that high point.

1143
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: That one wasn't good. We need to spend time here, here,

1144
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: and here because those were the best glassing knops, right,

1145
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: that's where the action was, and sort of that gets

1146
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: me excited. And then the third year you kind of

1147
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: have it. I don't want to say dialed, but you

1148
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: got a pretty good idea of what the program is.

1149
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: And by the fourth year, I'm like, man, let's go

1150
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: to start this process over again, because I just don't

1151
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: want to keep doing the same thing over So I

1152
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 2: think when you look at it with a baited black

1153
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: bear hunt, it's the same thing. Sure I went there

1154
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: and experienced it, but it was only three days. Yeah,

1155
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: I was successful, but like I want to still there's

1156
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: more there that I did not get to experience yet.

1157
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: Right and again, I think the next time a giant

1158
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: boar comes in, I will recognize that giant board probably sooner,

1159
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 2: and my heart rate might actually be spiking more than

1160
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: it did on this trip. The one thing I would

1161
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: like to do that I think would be fun is

1162
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: that instead of being up in the tree, is doing

1163
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: it down on the ground and just being even that

1164
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: much more intimate with the bears and just being at

1165
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 2: eye level with them and just seeing how that plays out.

1166
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: Just again for something different, you.

1167
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: Know, maybe tie a beaver carcass around your.

1168
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: Neck that I'm not gonna do. No, no, I'm not

1169
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: gonna do that, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1170
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: put any castor sent on my boots, nothing like that.

1171
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think building like a little ground blind

1172
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: and just setting up downwind. I think that that'd be

1173
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: a way to do it because as close as you

1174
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: are ten feet up in a tree ten yards away,

1175
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: if you were on the ground at seven yards, it'd

1176
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: be that much closer. It'd be cool. So we'll see. Yeah,

1177
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: we've actually booked some spots with Craig for twenty can

1178
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: remember was twenty seven or twenty eight. So yeah, not

1179
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: a hunt I need to do every single year. But

1180
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: if you're like, hey, let's go up there and haunt

1181
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: a bated bear. Kill abated bear, come home with some meat,

1182
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent in for every other year. What

1183
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: about you. You've never done a baited black bear hunt?

1184
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 3: I imagine No, I haven't never had the opportunity. We

1185
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: neighbor a state that allows baited bear hunting in Idaho,

1186
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: not every unit, but some units. I would totally try it.

1187
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: I'd love to get that close and see that many bears.

1188
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting about debating is a lot of states

1189
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: regulate it much differently. Because, of course, as soon as

1190
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: I came back from Manitoba might call my friends in

1191
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: Wisconsin saying, hey, have you tried beaver meat, because that's

1192
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: the thing right in Wisconsin. You can't use any kind

1193
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: of meat product.

1194
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah, restrictions.

1195
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't use any kind of a metal like

1196
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: fabricated can either. The bait has to basically be in

1197
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: a most people will use a hollow stump or a

1198
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 2: log and put it in there. So yeah, it's uh,

1199
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: they restrict it a little bit. So if you're going

1200
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: to go do it, you know, make sure you know

1201
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: your state's regulations for sure. But yeah, one hundred percent

1202
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: want to go back. Man, it was a great time.

1203
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: McCarthy's were great people, so awesome camaraderie, awesome time in

1204
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: camp and uh yeah, just a fun hunt.

1205
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: Well good, Yeah, baiting bears. Don't knock it till you

1206
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: try it.

1207
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: No, I'd like to share it with more people. I

1208
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: think that's Craig mentioned this too. It's like a great

1209
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: animal for people to get their like first bow kill. Right,

1210
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of opportunities. You know, maybe your

1211
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: goal isn't a giant one. Maybe your goal you go

1212
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: up there and you're just like, oh, I just want

1213
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: to kill an animal with my boat. Well the shots

1214
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: are nice and close, lots of opportunities. There you go,

1215
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 2: great meat. Another another good reason to you know, to

1216
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: do a baited black bear hunt.

1217
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 3: Well, any other topics you want to discuss.

1218
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: No, wish I would have brought my skull ins. We

1219
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: could have met, you could have measured it for me

1220
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: and told me if I had a booner or not.

1221
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 3: But well, maybe we'll have to make a little video.

1222
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: We can do that next time. But yeah, thank you

1223
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: guys all for tuning in. And remember, in about a

1224
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: month or so, we'll have I think one of Clay's

1225
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: episodes will come out, or it will be one of

1226
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: Clay's films. Excuse me, Clay. One of Clay's films will

1227
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: come out and you'll be able to punch in your

1228
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: comments on YouTube and Instagram and he will do roughly

1229
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: the same thing. But maybe he'll have Bear or Brent

1230
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: asked the questions instead of Corey, because they'll probably do

1231
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: it down in Arkansas. So thanks again for watching, and yeah,

1232
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: tune in next month for another edition of Meat Eaters

1233
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: twelve and twenty six.