1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. This is straight 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: fire for Wednesday, December one. Unbelievable. We got to December here, 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: a great month for sports. Obviously, there's a lot happening 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: in hell. Tuesday night was crazy in the sports world. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, number one Duke going down. I don't listen. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I know we don't do a lot of college hoops 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: in the regular season, obviously we load up in March. 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: But I am watching college hoops. I am gambling on it. 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: And an awesome cover and come back by Ohio State. 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Duke just choked down the stretch. They led by eight, 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: I think with like four and a half left, They 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: led by fifteen in the second half, and then blew 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: it at Ohio State. Nice win for the buck Eyes, 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: but I don't even think they were the biggest story 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: in sports last night because of the Phoenix Suns Golden 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: State Warriors game, which I stayed up late last night for. 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a moment, but at first 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: I want to tease our interview today. I got so 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: fired up talking about college football the last couple of days. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I decided let's get a guest. We got Dan Wilkin 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: of USA Today's Sports. I gotta be honest, Like I've 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: known Dan for a while, he said some stuff that 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: really made me think. For starters, there is a nightmare 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: scenario that I hadn't really considered for the college football 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: playoff where Mike Cincinnati Bearcats, the team I've been hyping 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: up on this podcast for months, gets left out. If 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Alabama wins, they're obviously getting it. Georgia's obviously automatically in. 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: And then what happens if Michigan wins are double digit 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: favorites and Oklahoma State wins, is Cincinnati gonna get shafted? 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: So when we dive into that, a lot of Brian 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Kelly stuff. I didn't realize Brian Kelly was such a jerk. 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to that also, and Lincoln Riley USC stuff. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: UM really exciting week in college football. I mean, maybe 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: it's a seventy two hour thing, but it's becoming n 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: a ish in the topics. So you guys will enjoy that. 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: That chat with Dan Wilkin, But I gotta quickly touch 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: on before we get to him, this Warriors Sons game. 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: Now we don't do a lot of regular season NBA. 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: You you ays, no why there's eighty two games. But 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: when you have the number one team in the league, 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, best record, best draw, Um, everybody loves Curry. 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: He's the m v P so far, facing off of 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: the team that had won sixteen in a row. I mean, 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: it's must see TV. So they play and at halftime, 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: you know Steph Curry is playing. He had a rough game, 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: he was terrible. But Devin Booker's ruled out with a 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: hamstring and they're like, ah, jeez, no way, the Sun's 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: pulled this off. Well, they rode the big guy, DeAndre Ayton, 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: and oh man, they got it. Seventeen wins in a row. 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns eighteen and three, tied with Golden State 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: now for the best record in the league. I mean, 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: seven teen wins in a row. Now, I always like 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: to do, where are we twenty won games in compared 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: to say the NFL. Well, it just so happens that 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: twenty one is roughly one fourth of the way through 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: the season. So this is the equivalent of the Son's 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: being eighteen and three. This is the equivalent of starting 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: four no in the NFL. Right, Arizona Cardinals start four 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: no right and winning seventeen straight, though, is not something 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: you see a lot in the NBA. Sons are utterly 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: dominant at both ends. I loved and you guys know 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: him in the tank for Steph Curry, obviously, I love 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: the strategy they played on them. They stayed down, they 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: stayed home. They were willing to concede anything. Draymond Green 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: wanted nothing. Yeah, I mean he they're giving him any 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: three point shot. Remember when he was hitting threes in 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Game seven against the Calves. Feels like forever ago. I 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: mean it was I guess five years. But basically they 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: just locked down on Curry, gave him nothing. He was 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: four for one shooting the m v P at a 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: rough night, twelve points. But they were in until deep 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, just too much eight, twenty four 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and eleven. And you know, this is one of those 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: games where it's like, oh, you guys didn't want to 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: pay eight in the max. Okay, That's one of the 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: big takeaways. The other is winning without Booker. I'm stunned. 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Cam Johnson was very good. And the other one is 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I just wonder if this is a taste of what's 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen to the Warriors in the playoffs. They've got 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: an incredible game, right, we know their pace in space. 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: Curry Three's Jordan Pool here, Otto Porter there um Draymond passing. 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: You have five assists, eleven rebounds. But if you have 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: a big man like eighton, can you kind of have 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: your way inside with Golden State? And it's an interesting 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: thought because Anthony Davis is in the West. DeAndrea and 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: obviously uh NICOLEA. Yokich is a decent player in the West. 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Although you know, Nuggets look like they may have an 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: upple climbed to the playoffs at this rate with the injuries. 90 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr. Now Done for the season. It seems 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: like with a back surgery. Rudy Gobert uh in Utah 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: obviously not a huge offensive threat. But you just wonder 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: about some of these big scarl Anthony Towns. There are 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: some good ones in the West. Um, I don't know. 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to panic over one Golden State Warriors loss. 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they still have the greatest point differential in 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the league by a mile. Um. Golden State's awesome Steph 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: created a rough game and eight and bullied him inside. 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: But James Wiseman's coming back, Clay Toompson's coming back soon. 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: All right, that's enough on a Tuesday night NBA regular 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: season game in December. Actually it was in November. Today 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: is December. Um, But I do have some really good 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: news to report before we get to Dan Wilkin on 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: the pod. So listen, I'm not one of these two 105 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: my own horn guys when it comes to the podcast 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: and bragging about all the great stuff we do here. Um, 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: you guys know, I'm not even one of those guys 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: who's out here saying subscribe, rate and review all the time. 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: You know, they tried to drill it into my head 110 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: at the beginning. Jason, you gotta do this. I'm like, 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: come on, man, we've got our audience. It's gonna grow. 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna share it with their friends. They're gonna, you know, 113 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: go to the comments section and say everything nice. Well, 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: Rob g sent me our numbers for October and November, 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: now that November is complete, although there'll be some late 116 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: numbers coming in um for November. But we started the 117 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: pot in August, right, So our first football season was October. 118 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Last October. This October we're up, and November to November, 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: we're up twenty eight. So the podcast continues to grow. 120 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and subscribing, rating, reviewing, sharing with 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: your friends and blah blah blah blah blah um. And 122 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: the more listens we get, the more ads we get, 123 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the more podcasts that we get, the better guests we get. 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: It's it's all trickle down. You guys win and everything, 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and thank you for that. As we head into December. 126 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: All right, without further ado, let's get to our guest, 127 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: USA Today's Sports, Dan Wilkin. Fox Sports Radio has the 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 129 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox boards Radio dot com and within 130 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything when 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports dance want, 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 134 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 135 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome back 136 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: to straight Fire. A guy he's been here before. USA Today, 137 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Dan Wolk in listen. College football is on fire right now. 138 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: And I said to Dan, what a fun week? In 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: college football. I would say it's been the most fun 140 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: week of the year, um, without question, like not even close. 141 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: And Dan, would you agree with that assessment? Well, it's 142 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: been crazy. And for someone in my position who's trying 143 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: to follow all this stuff and react everything that's going on, 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot. It's a lot to Uh, it's 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: like whiplash. You know, you think, oh my god, Lincoln 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Riley to USC, this is insane, and then the next 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: day literally Brian Kelly the l s U. And then 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: meanwhile you've got the playoffs stuff. So this is the 149 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: time of year where things are always a little bit manic, 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: but the fact that you've had these two major coaching 151 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: moves back to back, it just ramps everything up times twenty. Yeah, 152 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: I would. I actually said something people didn't like at 153 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: the college football you know, media message board guys, um 154 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: that college football. The games have been fine, but the 155 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: subplots with the coaching moves have been like NBA ish. 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so huge, Like nobody saw Brian 157 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Kelly coming, Nobody saw Lincoln Riley coming. If you would 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: asked a week ago what either of those changed, there's 159 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: no way anybody had that. I just wonder has this 160 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: over shadowed championship weekend, which doesn't have a marquee game 161 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: with a spread of three or less. I would say 162 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: yes in some ways. Now, look, I think Saturday, once 163 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: you get to the championship games, people are gonna lock 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: in on those because you have huge playoff implications in 165 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: the SEC, in the Big Ten, the Big twelve, so 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: those are really really important, and I think there's great storylines. 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, for this week, it just feels like total chaos, 168 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: like the carousel is spinning out of control and we're 169 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: just seeing these moves that we don't usually see and 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: there's not any patients anymore. The season started, nobody would 171 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: have said Dan Mullins on the hot seat, you know, 172 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: and and usually if Florida fires a coach, it's a 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: huge deal. And this year it's like it's the higher 174 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Billy Napier and it's it's off the radar in five minutes. 175 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: That's how crazy this thing is right now. All right, 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: we'll get to the Championship weekend games in the playoff 177 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and all that, but I need to start with Brian Kelly, 178 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: because I mean, I've got a friend who's a Notre 179 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: dame booster and close to the program. And when I 180 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: saw the whole um, people are gonna make a run 181 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: of Brian Kelly. You know. I asked him and he's like, no, 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: nobody expects him to leave, and for him to leave, 183 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: I I just I want you to put yourself down 184 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: in Brian Kelly's head. He's been a Notre dame for 185 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: over a decade, He's sixty years old. What do you 186 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: think prompted this? There has to be something that he saw, 187 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: whether it was melt Tucker's move, um, the shifting landscape 188 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: in college football. I don't know the fifteen million a 189 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: year or whatever he's rumored to get, but how where 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: did this come from? Yeah, there's no doubt contract and 191 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: V will play a part in a lot of this. 192 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: When you start to see a guy like mel Tucker, 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: who I think is a great coach, has done a 194 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: good job, but he's getting ten million dollars a year, 195 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Kelly is way more accomplished of a 196 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: coach than than mel Tucker. So he's I'm sure looking 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: at that and thinking, well, if that's what he's worth, 198 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: what am I worth? But look, I think the other 199 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: thing and I just wrote this in a column that 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: that should be up at USA today by the time 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: people listen to this, is that the playoff era has 202 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: kind of changed how we perceive schools that can win 203 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: national championships. Back in the eighties and nineties, a lot 204 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: of schools one titles. You had a Colorado, you had 205 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: a Georgia Tech that won a national title, a b 206 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: y U on it. And the reason is because these teams. Basically, 207 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 1: if you were the last one standing undefeated in your conference, 208 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: you go to your bowl game and you win that 209 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: and sometimes you didn't even have to play anyone who 210 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: is that good when by you in the national title. 211 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: They played a six and six Michigan team in the 212 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl and that was it, and they were undefeated 213 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: and they got voted national champion. It doesn't work that 214 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: way anymore now. Not only do you have to win 215 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: your conference, which the conferences include more good teams because 216 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: there are fewer conferences, but then you get to the 217 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: playoffs and you've got to win two games against other 218 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: elite teams. And what you see with Notre Dame and 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame can't still win a national championship, 220 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: but you've seen them get to the playoff and what happens, 221 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: They just don't have enough depth of talent on both 222 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: sides of the ball that you have it Clemson, that 223 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: you have at Alabama. I think the same things happened 224 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: with Oklahoma when they've gotten into those games in the playoffs. 225 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: They're just a half step below. And so Brian Kelly 226 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: is going to one of those handful of blue blood 227 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: programs at l s U where it's actually easier to 228 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: assemble that kind of team and that depth of talent, 229 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: UH much easier than a Notre Dame for a lot 230 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: of different reasons. And so even though he had one 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: of the incredible jobs in all of college football, he 232 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: actually went to a place where he'll have a better 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: shot of winning a national title. Yeah. So okay, So 234 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: when mel Tucker gets his million and best, I can 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: tell he's never won a real bull game, right, I mean, 236 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't go for three years? I mean, is that 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: a little obscene? Why did Michigan State have to go 238 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: so big because they thought l s U was gonna 239 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: come after Milt Tucker. Yeah, and actually I'm pretty sure 240 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: l SU was gonna go after Melt Tucker. I think 241 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: I think L s u. You know, from what I 242 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: had heard, I think their president really like Milt Tucker 243 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: and thought that was gonna thought that was a good fit. 244 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: I think it would have been a good fit as well. 245 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: He's been in the SEC, worked under Nick, worked under Kirby. 246 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: He knows what what that looks like. He knows what 247 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. But heck, if you're gonna get 248 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: nine and a half million to state in Michigan State, 249 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and he's kind of the king there right now, he's 250 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: he's so popular. Uh. By the way, if he wants 251 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to ever leave, it only cost him a couple of 252 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: million dollars to get out of that contract. It's so 253 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: one sided. The coaches get the ninety five million dollars 254 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: all guaranteed, but if they want to leave for another job, 255 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: it costs them almost nothing. So you know, maybe he's 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna wait for Alabama to open, you know, whenever Nick 257 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: retires or something or something like that. You know. So, yeah, 258 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I guess for for mel Tucker, Um, it's a pretty 259 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: good deal. But but these schools just feel like to 260 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: keep a coach or to get a coach, that's what 261 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: they have to pay. Now, Yeah, it almost sounded Damn. 262 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: Like you just said that, there really isn't a path 263 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: to a national championship if you're Notre Dame, given the 264 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: restrictions on who can get into the university. And I 265 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth, but look, 266 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it can be done. But it's it's it's harder. 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: It's harder than l s U. Georgia, Alabama, Florida, a 268 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: few others. You know, there's not many, there's maybe ten, 269 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: but but those ten schools are closer proximity to talent. 270 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: They have fewer restrictions, they have fewer sort of roadblocks 271 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: within the university to football success. And Notre Dame is 272 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: still one of those places that believes that that football 273 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: and the institutional core mission can can coexist and they 274 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: make football players just as an example, freshman football players 275 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: that Notre Dame, they don't live in a special norm 276 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: or live with each other. They have to live among 277 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the general student population and room with a regular student 278 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: because Notre Dame wants its football team to be integrated 279 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: fully into the campus community and culture. At Clemson, just 280 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: as an example, literally the football players spend of their 281 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: time in the football building, so that's kind of what 282 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the difference is really between a Notre Dame and and 283 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: some of those other schools. All right, so what so 284 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma had made three straight playoffs and all I heard 285 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: was how many wins does Lincoln Riley having the playoffs? 286 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: And it's like, I mean, really getting so getting there 287 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: is not good enough? Um, but what do you think 288 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: led him to bolt Oklahoma? It's seemingly in I don't 289 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: want to say the middle of the night, but I 290 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: mean dan a week ago. I don't think anybody thought 291 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley was on USC's radar. Remember, it was 292 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: all James Franklin and uh, you know they Pete Carroll 293 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: maybe leave Seattle, but Lincoln Riley was not really in 294 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the mix right until what the law us to Oklahoma State. Yeah, 295 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I think some of those same types of issues as 296 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: far as getting to the playoff and bumping your head 297 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: up against the ceiling. Oklahoma, they primarily recruit in Texas, 298 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: and they went and got some players from other places 299 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: and around the country. But I do think there's something 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: to the notion that when you recruit primarily in the 301 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: state of Texas, you are gonna have a harder time 302 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: getting great athletes on defense on offense very easy. But 303 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: all the kids in Texas play on offense all the 304 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: all the really good kids, And so when that's your 305 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: recruiting territory and your base, that probably explains why just 306 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: on defense, they've they've just been fractionally not good enough 307 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: to win a national championship. The other thing is they're 308 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: going to the SEC. And I don't know that Lincoln 309 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Riley was necessarily in love with the idea, because Oklahoma 310 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: for generations has been the best program in whatever conference 311 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: essentially they've they've played in and in the Big Twelve. Yeah, 312 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: you have to be better than Texas, which isn't that 313 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: hard to do? You know, you have to be bestially 314 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: not now, Yeah, you have to be better than Oklahoma State, 315 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: better than Baylor. You know, Oklahoma can do that in 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: their sleep, and they've done it. They've won championship after 317 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: championship after championship. Well, now they're gonna be going to 318 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: a league where you gotta be better than Texas, and 319 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: then Texas, A and M and Alabama and l s 320 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: U and Georgia and Auburn and Florida and on and on. 321 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: It's hard That Oklahoma job got much much harder. And 322 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: there's no way that Lincoln Riley, who was fifty five 323 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: and ten his first five years at Oklahoma, was gonna 324 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: have anywhere close to that record in the SEC. So 325 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: I think it totally makes sense from his perspective to 326 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: look at that and say, all right, I'm gonna go 327 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: to USC where, frankly, the setup is kind of like Oklahoma, 328 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: where we're the best program. We should be getting the 329 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: best players. We can dominate our re you know, the country, 330 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: and get into the playoff if we're doing this job 331 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: the right way, and we can still want a national 332 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: championship there. So I think that's really how he looked at. Yeah, 333 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: now one other job that you know. A month ago, 334 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: U c l A and Chip Kelly appeared to be 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: on a collision course to end things. Um, depending on 336 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: who you talked to. A lot of boosters out here, 337 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: including a certain guy who got the Olympics out to 338 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: l A. They were done with chip Kelly. They want 339 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: to move on from him. I don't know what do 340 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: you think happens with Chip Kelly and U c l 341 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: A now, Dan, I think it's a bad year. First, 342 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: like U c l A to try to hire a 343 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: coach I mean, I just think that's the reality of it, 344 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: because look, the Chip thing has not worked out the 345 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: way a lot of people thought it would. I don't 346 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: know exactly what the reasons are for that. I'm sure 347 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: there's some obvious ones and maybe some less obvious ones. 348 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: They're definitely issues and flaws with the u c l 349 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: A job. I think it's a harder it's a much 350 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: harder job than than USC, and I don't think the 351 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: kids in southern California view you c l A football 352 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: wise as the best program. Those kids want to go 353 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: to USC. They're also increasingly leaving and going east and 354 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: going to the South, so that's a problem. But I 355 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: just think with the amount of money they oh Chip 356 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: and some of those other things, and the other jobs 357 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: that were open, you're just better off waiting until next 358 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: year and then maybe you know that they're the best 359 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: job on the market or one of the best jobs 360 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: on the market where they might have an easier time 361 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: getting a good candidate. Right now, I just don't think 362 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: you c l A is in a good position to 363 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: draw a great candidate. So so you think they'll end 364 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: up keeping it probably huh yeah, I mean, I think 365 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: at this point it would be a big surprise if 366 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: they let go Chip Kelly. One more coach thing. And 367 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: you know, the Urban Meyer situation in Jacksonville. I was 368 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: way wrong. I thought he would be successful there with 369 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and it has been an unmitigated disaster. His 370 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: press conferences now Dan are embarrassing where he's kicking the 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: can down the road on questions about the team. Two 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: positional coaches and you know what's going on. Any read 373 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: on Urban Meyer and if he puts his name in 374 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: the hat for anything, whether it be U C. L A. 375 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that or Notre Dame, it doesn't sound 376 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: like it. But any guesses on on Urban Meyer. I 377 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: think Urban's kind of stuck because, first of all, he's 378 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: not gonna take a job in college where you can't 379 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: win a national title. He's not gonna take one of 380 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: the you know, sort of middle class programs and try 381 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: to make it great. That's just not for him at 382 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: this point in his career. But I don't think any 383 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: of the really great blue blood programs would touch him 384 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: because not just the scandals and the drama that follows 385 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: him everywhere, not and not even necessarily the lap dance 386 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: video and all that, which is embarrassing. It's just kind 387 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: of just a combination of everything he's he's just high maintenance, 388 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: high drama, and yeah, he's got a track record of winning. 389 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: But I think these schools just don't want to deal 390 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: with him anymore. I think they're just really I think 391 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: they're just with him. That surprises me. Melt Tucker getting 392 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: mill and some blue bloods are maybe afraid they I 393 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: mean old Miss, well, old Miss is not a blue blood. 394 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: But they got Lane Kiffin and what are they their 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: top ten team? Now? Sure, but you know Lane, I 396 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: mean Lane, Lane is a handful, There's no doubt about it. 397 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: But I just looked throughout his whole career. Urban's the 398 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: kind of guy who, you know, just burns really hot 399 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: for the first few years and can maybe get you 400 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: to a level, but then it just all falls apart. 401 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: Because part of Urban's problem is he is, first of all, 402 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: he's just he's crazy and he just drives everybody insane 403 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: around him. But he surrounds himself with these lackeys and 404 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean some of these people that he had with 405 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: him at Ohio State, I mean Zack Smith, that guy, 406 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: and you know, some of these characters that that have 407 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: just kind of glommed onto him over the years. They're 408 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: they're bad news, and it just doesn't create like a 409 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: stable environment. I think Ohio State they're way better off 410 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: from every angle with Ryan Day than they were with 411 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Well, it's funny some of the stuff you 412 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: were saying just now to describe Urban kind of remind 413 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: me of Jim Harball. Right, runs hot and then it 414 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: peters out, and then he's out. He bounces, and it's 415 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: weird because everybody wanted him gone um. Everybody said, oh, 416 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: he can't come on, he can't win the big game. 417 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: He's garbage pay cut. You know. Here we are Jim 418 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Harbaugh on the cusp of going to the playoff double 419 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: digit favored against Iowa. I mean, is there is there 420 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: something to be said from Michigan staying the course despite 421 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: all the noise, Like every single Michigan booster and fan 422 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: wanted him gone right. People thought he was done, no 423 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But I think Michigan is is 424 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: one of those places where, yeah, they want to win 425 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: and and it's it's very important to be good at 426 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: football there. But there is maybe a little bit more 427 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: perspective institutionally about where football fits at Michigan and a 428 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: lot of these other schools, And so I do think 429 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: they're more apt to be patient and to give him time, 430 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: especially like you can think what you want about Jim Harball, 431 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: but he's a good coach. You don't do what he 432 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: did at Stanford and then in the NFL, and even 433 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: in Michigan, like last year was undeniably terrible within with 434 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: COVID and all that stuff, but he had gotten pretty 435 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: close to the playoff a couple of times, been to 436 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: a couple of New Year's Six Bowl games, a lot 437 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: of finishes in the top twenty. This was not like 438 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: a broken disaster program. It just maybe wasn't quite meeting 439 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: the highest of expectations. So I think Michigan just said, 440 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: we can't get somebody better than Jim Harborball, so let's 441 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: give him a chance to fix it, and if he can't, 442 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: then then we'll make that decision when we have to. 443 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: And guess what he fixed it. He made some changes. 444 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: He went back to playing the kind of style of 445 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: football physical upfront and run the ball and just kind 446 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: of physically mash you. That's what they did at Stanford, 447 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: and it worked and they've kind of gone back to 448 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: that in Michigan. They're not throwing get fifty times a game. 449 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: It kind of started doing that for a while. Running 450 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: the spread and with quarterbacks who are not that good 451 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: and like they just kind of have an identity. They're 452 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: playing to it. They're executing it well. And I mean 453 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: that was just super impressive what they did against Ohio State, 454 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: and um, they have a good chance to play for 455 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: a national title. I mean, you beat you beat Iowa 456 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: and then either Oklahoma State or Cincinnati, like they're gonna 457 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: be favored in that game too, play for a national title. 458 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you that that that has 459 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: to fulfill every expectation that that you're bad about hardball 460 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: I have. I have a bad feeling that it's going 461 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: to be a similar situation to Oklahoma Notre Dame in 462 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the playoff for Michigan. But I digress. Um let me 463 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: just quickly one more coach thing. So as you're talking 464 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: about hardball and these coaches, I just looked up Kirby 465 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Smart and Dan If Georgia loses this weekend and then 466 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: loses in the first round of the playoffs, and by 467 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: the way, they're not in a great offensive team, so 468 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: that's not out of the realm. I do wonder are 469 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: Georgia fans gonna be like, Man, this guy Kirby Smart 470 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: can't win the big game? Were always right there? I 471 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know, Dan, what do you think. I'm not saying 472 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: he's on the hot seat at all, but Kirby Smart. 473 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: Are there gonna be questions if they happen to lose 474 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: to Alabama this weekend? Listen, there's no doubt that as 475 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: dominant as George has been, they are going to have 476 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: some pretty tough narratives attatched to them if they don't 477 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: win the national championship. And that's just the way it goes. 478 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: But the one thing that is just totally wired right 479 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: now for Georgia is the recruiting game. Kirby's just got 480 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: it absolutely unlock, especially in the state of Georgia, which 481 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: produces a ton of talent. They get what they want. 482 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: They go into Florida, they get guys out of there, 483 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: they they get some some kids Nationally. Um, they're they're 484 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: they're recruiting like nobody else's recruiting right now. So you know, 485 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: I just think as long as you are doing that 486 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: and knocking on the door. One day, you're gonna break 487 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it down. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 488 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 489 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 490 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. All right, 491 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: let's get to the games. I do want to ask, 492 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: but let's start with George Alabama. That's the game you'll 493 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: be at the SEC Championship. Um, it looks like they 494 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: spread six six and a half. Alabama has not looked 495 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: good recently. I mean they were dead in the water 496 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: against Auburn. Uh, you've got a freshman quarterback in the 497 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: SEC Championship game where you know, the scene is crazy. 498 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: I just I don't. Every time I watched Georgia's like, oh, 499 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: the defense is great. I mean, you know, Dan good 500 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 1: offense always is gonna be good defense. What are your 501 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: thoughts on the game. But the problem is Alabama doesn't 502 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: have a good offer problem. Now, what are they on 503 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: their fifth string running back? They have a good obviously, 504 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: brace Young is is good and and very talented. He's 505 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: going to be playing in the NFL for a long time. 506 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: But they've got real issues. Their Their offensive line is 507 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: has got problems. They don't protect very well, they don't 508 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: really have a running game to speak of. They've got 509 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: good receivers, but understand their their best receiver, Jamison Williams, 510 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: is a transfer who left Ohio State because he couldn't 511 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: really crack the the top three. At Ohio State, he 512 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: was like the fourth guy. So you know, that's kind 513 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: of where they are. They don't have the same kind 514 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: of skill players that they had last year. And they're young, 515 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing. Alabama's they're fine, but but 516 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: and they're good by almost any other standard, but they're 517 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: they're young, and they're mistake prone, and this just is 518 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: not the same kind of team. I don't see how 519 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to score against Georgia. Their 520 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: offensive line was getting absolutely annihilated last week by Auburn, 521 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: and Auburn's pretty good up front, but there's nothing like Georgia's. 522 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: So I actually think this game is gonna be fairly ugly, 523 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: and I think Georgia wins by a couple of touchdowns 524 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: at least. Wow, couple of tudy. All right, um, let 525 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: me ask you, you know, and Dan as I'm listening 526 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: to you talk about how Michigan got back to its 527 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: roots smash mouth football. Um, you know, George is kind 528 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: of doing the same thing. We're gonna win with defensive 529 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna run the football. And in the era of 530 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: the spread offense and everybody going for wide and hurry 531 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: up and pace and tempo, is there something to zigging 532 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: when everybody else is agging? Yeah. Look, I think everything 533 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: goes through cycles in football, especially what's hot right now. 534 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: In five years, people adjust and change. But I do 535 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: think fundamentally, whether you're running, you know, a spread or 536 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, it is still a sport where the 537 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage matters and you have to be good 538 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: up front offensive line and defensive line. Um, I think 539 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: to win at the highest highest level, even Clemson. Clemson 540 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: has never been known as as some amazing offensive line program, 541 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: but their formula when they won those couple of titles 542 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: is they were dominant up front defensively. I mean, they 543 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: had just studs after studs on their defensive front, and 544 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: they were good enough on the offensive line. You go 545 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: back and watch those games against Alabama, they played really 546 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: well up front in in those moments. And why are 547 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: they not as good this year? Because their offensive line 548 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: isn't as good. So I still think that that when 549 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: you are trying to win at this level, what makes 550 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: the difference, regardless of of what system you're running, is 551 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: whether or not you're able to block. And I think 552 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: that's why you're saying Michigan have this kind of renaissance 553 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: because their offensive lines playing great and their defensive line. 554 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: They've got two individual difference makers who can win one 555 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: on one matchups. All right, quickly to the games, Uh, 556 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: let me hypothetical. Alabama shocks Georgia, Oklahoma State wins as well. 557 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Who just who gets to the playoff one loss Alabama 558 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: or a one loss Oklahoma State. I think Alabama is 559 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: getting into the playoff if they win, no doubt about it. 560 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia. Georgie's in. Georgia's not Georgia's a lock. 561 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Georgie's a lock. They're in. It's Alcinati a lock right where. 562 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: I think it could get complicated for them, but I 563 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: think they're in great position. I think complicated if they win. Yes, 564 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean you have to remember there's still a group 565 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: of five team that does not have the overall schedule 566 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: strength that these other teams do. They have to win 567 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, which is great, and obviously the committee 568 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: um after they beat s MU was very impressed and 569 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: moved them into the top four. I don't think they're 570 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: totally safe. I think things could break wrong for them, 571 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. I think Cincinnati will 572 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: win and they will get in. I think more intriguing is, 573 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: you know what happens if Oklahoma State loses. Now you've 574 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: got this issue with Notre Dame. They're kind of sitting there, 575 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: but they don't have a coach. Um does that impact, 576 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the way a committee looks, Wait, wait, 577 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on Michigan. We're assuming Michigan's gonna win 578 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: and they're in, right, Yes, Michigan isn't Georgia and Michigan. 579 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: So we have is in Cincinnati wins, we think they're in. 580 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: That's three. So an Alabama lost to Georgia and and 581 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: it's an Oklahoma State or Notre Dame. Right that that's 582 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: basically I think that's what it comes down. Okay, I'm 583 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: gonna ask you, Dan, without looking, who's got the better win? Cincinnati, 584 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: just the best win, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State. Oh, Cincinnati's got 585 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: the best wins Cincinnati one on the road at Notre Dame. Total. 586 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Because I look at the Oklahoma State schedule, I'm like, Okay, 587 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: you know you you beat Texas with stings, you beat Baylor, 588 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: which is good. You have to face Baylor again. Not 589 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: a layout by I mean, I like Dave A. Randa. 590 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: I think I like Baylor in this spot a little 591 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: bit to cover the spread. I don't know about win. 592 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Where are you on that game? Yeah, I mean it's 593 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: hard to beat somebody twice h in the season, and 594 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: and that was a competitive game, and um, Oklahoma State's 595 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: got to come off the high of of winning that 596 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Bedlam game, which is so important to them. It's really 597 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: hard in college football to get a team to emotionally 598 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: peak two weeks in a row. Very hard, I think, 599 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: very underrated as skill. There's usually some kind of letdown 600 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: and if you're good enough to win, there's a lot 601 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: of teams who can do that. But uh, yeah, is 602 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: is Oklahoma State can have the same edge this time 603 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: that they had last week against Oklahoma or the first 604 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: time around against Taylor. Definitely not not a giving but look, 605 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: but Oklahoma State does have some some some solid wins 606 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: and they play good defense and they've improved throughout the season, 607 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: and if they win the Big Twelve, like they're gonna 608 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: have a good argument. Yeah, it's weird we could wrap 609 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: up with this. I didn't think Notre Dame really had 610 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: any chance to get in. I was gonna say, like 611 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: less than one. But an Alabama loss and an Oklahoma 612 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: State loss and Notre Dame is in. Huh. I mean, 613 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what it comes out. It doesn't 614 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: take it's not gonna take that much for Notre Dame 615 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: to kind of backdoor their way into this thing, even 616 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: though I mean you look at their schedule and there's 617 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: not a lot there either. You know, usually the Notre 618 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Dame schedule is great, but some of those games just 619 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: fell apart, you know, they like like North Carolina. Preseason, 620 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina was a top ten team in North Carolina 621 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: turned out to be six and six. So they get 622 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin win, but not much aass that's the problem, 623 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: all right, So who uh any any guests And again 624 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm not always holding you to anything, but your guests 625 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: on the Notre the next Notre Dame coach, Yeah, I mean, 626 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: with the caveat that by the time people hear this. 627 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: We may already know, but there's gonna be a huge 628 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: push for them to just hire Marcus Freeman, the defensive coordinator, 629 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: as a head coach. Yeah. I mean, listen, the guy 630 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: is extremely well regarded. Um, he would be a lock 631 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: to be the Cincinnati coach if Luke Fickle moves on, 632 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: he would be the You know, Brian Kelly is trying 633 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: to make him the highest paid defensive coordinator in the 634 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: country at LSU. Hold Dan, this guy's thirty five years 635 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: old and he's never been a head coach and Notre 636 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Dame is gonna make him in their head coach. Is 637 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: that just so they don't lose him? I think it's possible. 638 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what they're going to do, but 639 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, you saw a lot of the stuff on 640 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: social media from the players. Um, they they want him 641 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: to be the guy. He's just got a lot of 642 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: credibility and good recruiter, young, dynamic, charismatic, and the defenses 643 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: he's he's been in charge of a Cincinnati and Notre 644 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Dame have been great. Like there's people think he's a 645 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: big time head coach and yeah, in waiting, and if 646 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you believe in him, then why not? I mean, that's 647 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a question. Could you go Fickle, steal 648 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: a Fickle from Cincinnati, keep Freeman or would he just 649 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: not do that? I mean, I I don't know him 650 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: at all, but do you think he's ready to be 651 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: a head coach or I guess yeah. I mean, it's 652 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: like not part of the discussion anymore in God's Football. 653 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, if Fickle decided to go to Notre Dame, 654 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: which you know could be complicated because Cincinnati is gonna 655 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: be in the playoff probably and Notre Dame is gonna 656 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: have to wait if that's the case. But if that 657 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: were to happen, it would take Cincinnati like five seconds 658 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: to hire Freeman is their head coach, so you know 659 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: because he was there, is the defensive coordinator, they know 660 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: him there and um so yeah, the only way he's 661 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: staying at Notre Dame is if he's the head coach. 662 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: You think if they bring in Fickle or someone else, 663 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: he's going, yeah, because he'll just go with Brian Kelly 664 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: the l s U. Wow, that's a tough spot for 665 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I guess in that scenario, you you gotta 666 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: make him the head coach, even though he's only thirty five. Well, 667 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that they have to, but like they 668 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: they have a small window to make that decision. Let's 669 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: put it that way. I think they're gonna have to 670 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: make that. I think they're gonna make that call pretty 671 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: quickly and we'll see, Like Jack Swarburg, I think, is 672 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to over the next twenty four hours you 673 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: figure out if there's some other like big time guy 674 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: that they could go get who would be a slam 675 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: dunk and if not, I think then they need to 676 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: move pretty quickly to make Marcus Freeman. Do you have 677 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: any fun big, big name guys that they could they 678 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: could go land? No, not really. I mean I think 679 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: you could get Matt Campbell. But you know, is he 680 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: get into that category? Is the bloom off that road 681 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: is just a little dan. I thought they were disappointing 682 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: this year. They were disappointing. Um. I I still believe 683 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: in him as a coach. I think he's really good. Like, 684 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: I think he could win a Notre Dame. Can you 685 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: sell that to the people. You need to sell that too, 686 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: with him coming off kind of a mediocre year and 687 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: losing Freeman. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't 688 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: know if they can do that, they can pull that off. Um, 689 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: it's a tough call. I mean, do you think there's 690 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL that would step down to Notre 691 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: Dame I mean head coach? Probably not, you know, being 692 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Quinn maybe some of something like that. As a coordinator. 693 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. He's been in college. He 694 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: was a Florida with Florida as a defensive coordinator. You know, 695 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: some people think he'd be a really good college coach, 696 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: really good on the recruiting trail. Is Pete Carroll too old? 697 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I think he's too old? Yeah, I mean I don't 698 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: see it. I don't think Bob Stoops is coming out 699 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: of retirement. Um, Mark Stoops is off the Market's he's 700 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna extend with Kentucky. I like when people get exotic 701 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 1: and like to Brian Kelly, things totally out of left field. 702 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if there's an NFL coach 703 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: who would leave I mean Urban, we we already talked about. Um, 704 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: I can't Mike Tomlin. You know a lot of change 705 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: happened in Pittsburgh, but Mike Tomlin hates the idea of 706 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: going back to college. Mike Tomlin does not want to 707 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: go sit in sixteen year old living rooms, and I 708 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: mean that's just obvious. He doesn't want to go crewt 709 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: and you try to convince these guys to come play 710 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: for him. He wants to be an NFL coach, and 711 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: if things go sideways in Pittsburgh, he would easily get 712 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: another job somewhere. All Right, we've held you too long. 713 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: Dan Wilke in USA Today Sports read his stuff, follow him. 714 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: He'll be at the SEC title game. Dan, thanks a lot. 715 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: Enjoy the games. And oh, I didn't ask you about 716 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: the Heisman. Who the hell is one of the trophy? 717 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: Brice Young? Does anybody care about the eyes of a trophy? 718 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: It's a weird year. I mean, Ferry, I don't know. 719 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't vote for it, so I don't really think 720 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: about it that much. But you know, I did kind 721 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: of have this thought this weekend, like if if Georgia 722 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: beats Alabama, and oh, there's a lot of points the 723 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: stetson Bennett, maybe let's quarterback, you know, but like there's 724 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: probably like twenty guys who are gonna split votes, and 725 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: some of them, some of them are defensive guys. There's 726 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: nobody who's coalescing around a certain candidate yet, and and 727 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: maybe that maybe that's gonna happen if somebody has a 728 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: huge game in one of these conference championships, and if 729 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: it's Stetson Bennett, the quarterback of an undefeated, dominant team, 730 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: like I could see it. I can see him kind 731 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: of making a push for the accord of the last minute. 732 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: But I don't at that point just basically say the 733 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Heisman is going to the best player on the best team, 734 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: like every I mean, because Bryce Young probably not beating Georgia, 735 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: so you don't think you're gonna give it to him 736 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: off a loss um and then he's not even in 737 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: the playoff. I don't. It's that's hespan crazy. Anyways, all Right, 738 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: Dan Wilkin, thanks a lot man, Keep up the good work. 739 00:38:59,160 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Jason