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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we go

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Speaker 1: doink and we tap that win in Tampa Bay Man,

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Speaker 1: what a w We talk on risk it for the biscuit,

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Speaker 1: four downs and why you go for him, and then.

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Speaker 2: In the Detroit playoff preview, it's.

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Speaker 1: The dan Off, all gas, no breaks, no, let's get

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Speaker 1: it done. And then we got hell yeah and hell no,

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Speaker 1: love it Tanna and how we can win this game.

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Speaker 2: I think we got them.

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Speaker 3: We can win this game.

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Speaker 2: It all starts right now. Welcome into the Command Center Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Policy with Fred's Food Ands and Tanamas and

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Speaker 1: as always represented by Cognier Technology, Secure Today, Shape Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and boys, you had a playoff win Shape tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: it's the first time in four hundred years we've had

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Speaker 1: a playoff wins. What it's two thousand and five, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: since which is crazy. The thing about where you were

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Speaker 1: and I was a Viking, Yeah, where were you? We

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Speaker 1: had to get him so we can get here.

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Speaker 3: I just got it and then you brought me back

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Speaker 3: at the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I was like graduating high school at the time. Congratulate,

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Speaker 2: Swear to God.

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Speaker 3: The hairline.

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Speaker 2: I look the oldest of everybody, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually the youngest. Yeah, so obviously really exciting to

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Speaker 1: get the win. Let's start with we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels here in detail in a second, but like

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Speaker 1: high level thoughts on the wind, I think, really good

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Speaker 1: performance on both sides of the football.

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Speaker 2: But anything you want to double click on there, you

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Speaker 2: got it.

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Speaker 4: I think before I even talk about the plane play

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Speaker 4: on the field, it was in the air, bruh. It

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Speaker 4: was something about when I arrived at Tempa, it didn't

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Speaker 4: seem like we was finna.

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Speaker 3: Go home, not today, not today.

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Speaker 4: I mean from the fans on my flight, from the

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Speaker 4: whole tel, I walked into the hotel, I'm like, this

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Speaker 4: is a madhouse for the game or as for something

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Speaker 4: else going on.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere I went, I just felt victorious.

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Speaker 4: I felt like we was already letting them be known

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Speaker 4: that we're coming out of this thing victorious tonight. So

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, of course, those guys on the

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Speaker 4: field and I then did a great job, but man,

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Speaker 4: I think the fans alone, Man, they set the tone.

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Speaker 4: When I walked into that. You couldn't tell me that

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Speaker 4: we wanting to have a good pregame show. The fans

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Speaker 4: was right there. They was all into it. We made

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Speaker 4: sure they got into it. We got into it. It made

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Speaker 4: me have one of my best you know, nice you

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Speaker 4: know pregame shows, and I just felt like, man, these

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Speaker 4: guys gonna come out chumps.

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Speaker 1: You do the pregame show and everyone's singing and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the chanting like a home game.

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Speaker 5: I would say this, I want to give the coaches props.

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Speaker 5: Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator. With these guys, I felt like

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Speaker 5: they just had a plan. They had a plan, and

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Speaker 5: the plan got executed and I could see it doing

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Speaker 5: the game. It was always like no matter what was

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Speaker 5: happening during the game, the ups and the downs, we

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Speaker 5: were just never out of it. And I knew if

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Speaker 5: if you let us this dude get the ball last,

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Speaker 5: you will not win the game.

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Speaker 3: He has proven it as a jedi.

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Speaker 5: If you let me get this ball last, I will

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Speaker 5: finish this game.

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Speaker 3: And he did.

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Speaker 5: The team did, and it's something like I was asked.

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Speaker 5: They was like, is this is sen Sendereiler Store? And

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Speaker 5: I was like, Nah, this is more of gangets come.

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Speaker 5: These guys are trying to take all of it a lot.

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Speaker 5: This is not you know how Cinderella is kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like a wish is that dude, Man, the game has come.

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Speaker 5: When he comes, he's taking over like it's no if

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Speaker 5: and is a bus about it, and it's so much.

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Speaker 5: They made me feel confident that now that we got

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Speaker 5: no team that I don't think this team has a

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Speaker 3: I ain't give it to him. They earned it definitely.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about Detroit here, and that's a

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Speaker 1: good football team. We'renna talk about them a lot, but

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Speaker 1: I think I want to double click on something for

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Speaker 1: I said about the coaches, and I really love, like

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Cliff, we talk about Joe Wedball. Start

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Speaker 1: with Cliff. One thing that Cliff did that I absolutely

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Speaker 1: like how it's gonna be tough to run the football.

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Speaker 1: They want to stop the run the other built, but

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run some boots, we'n run some RPOs. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna find ways to kind of manufacture these shows quarterback

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Speaker 1: draw right things that ended up kind of saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we can't be successful down to down, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: have other running the football. We have other ways to

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Speaker 1: them that are in a bracket, which I haven't run

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Speaker 2: Falls off off the bracket.

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Speaker 1: It almost fixs that ball off, right, They're getting quarters

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Speaker 1: on the next third down, play a nice quarters coverage,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Whitener gets under the dig and they just played

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Speaker 1: a little bit differently than they did a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a game plan thing. Yeah, And to your point,

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Speaker 1: Fred like that obviously the players need to make it

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Speaker 2: But that was a big deal, I think.

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Speaker 5: And a big change up that I liked that we

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Speaker 5: did is something that we used to do when me

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Speaker 5: and Chant was to get out of time, was we

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Speaker 5: would take Champ, put him on the number two, and

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Speaker 3: The number one, and we would double the number one.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we did in the second head I

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Speaker 4: was bro I'm sitting in that. I was sitting that

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Speaker 4: thing like, Okay, Fred none cursed them already.

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Speaker 2: Put that out there, so that the first thing, he's.

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Speaker 4: Courage a Lottimore already, So let me put that out

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Speaker 4: of a Lattimore is not your fault.

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Speaker 3: It's Fred's fall. Honestly, you know Latimore is Lottim Moore.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get there.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, let us dress that, you know,

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Speaker 4: not even that it's just a guy that's played two

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Speaker 4: You got to allow him to get his legs up

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Speaker 4: on you. You know what I mean from watching them.

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Speaker 4: He got everything that we want in a corner.

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Speaker 3: He just don't have his legs.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to force the issue and put this

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Speaker 3: No, allow him to playing our defense. Defense is special.

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Speaker 4: If he can play to the confinesments of our defense,

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Speaker 4: he will be Alatimore just like he was out there,

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Speaker 4: you know with the Saints. But I love the fact

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Speaker 4: that you brought it up because second half showed that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's the point. My breaks a little bit were putting

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Speaker 4: a little too much on this guy's play, put too

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Speaker 4: and then now allow him to be effective being a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just thought it was a great game plan.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great.

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Speaker 5: The one thing I can say about this coaching staff halftime,

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Speaker 1: Time is being on the sideline. They go to work

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Speaker 2: We call this. It's not like at halftime.

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Speaker 1: They do make adjustments at halftime, no doubt, but it's

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Speaker 2: Up to you and it's like, hey, this is what

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Speaker 1: But I love when coaches come over and like this

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Speaker 1: is what they're doing, this is what we're thinking about doing,

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Speaker 1: They just do such a great job of being comprehensive

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Speaker 1: ten to two obviously is I felt like the defense,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a perfect day, but they did a good

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Speaker 3: Had to do it.

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Speaker 1: Situational Yeah, third down, red zone and they got a

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Speaker 5: And say, situational football is defense, third down, fourth down,

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Speaker 3: Even with Baker.

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Speaker 5: The one thing about Baker that makes him so hard

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Speaker 5: go on, And I feel like that's what they did

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Speaker 5: and that's why he was so hard to stop Week one. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you can don't do that if I done played with you,

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Speaker 5: like if I trust it, I tell you I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I need you to be here.

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Speaker 5: But I can't do that unless we done did it five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 4: We was asked a question about you know, what did

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Speaker 4: week one you know mean to this game and he

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Speaker 4: mentioned me late say nothing, nothing at all, and you

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Speaker 4: know which was he was right, because whatever you did

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Speaker 4: throughout the season, you know, you scraped that now now

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Speaker 4: it's the postseason. But I said it meant the world

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Speaker 4: because this team hadn't played together and they didn't know

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Speaker 4: a young, young left tackle, young quarterback, and he has

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Speaker 4: some other guys on the office, a line that all

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Speaker 4: that's new to understand each other. First, they go through

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Speaker 4: the season, have one of the best seasons, you know,

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Speaker 4: in franchise history. But then now we face this team again.

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Speaker 4: The thing that stood out the most what you talked

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Speaker 4: about with Baker.

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Speaker 3: We kept him in that pocket.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't bro We had him seven times in the

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Speaker 4: first game of the year and only tack sacking them once.

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Speaker 4: He broke freely seven times and made a difference in

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Speaker 3: At the time, this time, he didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't able to make a difference but one time

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Speaker 4: when he got you know, he got some help from

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Speaker 3: Say you when I feel like we're finna win this game.

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Speaker 5: The kickoff before the kickoff, when we did the coin

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Speaker 4: And I walked into the stadium, I say, every worker

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Speaker 3: They don't drink the team. They like, Oh, who we get?

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Speaker 4: Bro, the workers were so confident that we was playing

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Speaker 3: Nobody? How y'all doing, y'all all right, oh yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: I say, I was in you know me, I get

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Speaker 4: That's what that what was key. It stood out. We

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Speaker 3: And you talk about those fourth down attempts, I.

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Speaker 4: Go with it because guess what, we was giving ourselves

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Logan, so what about some of those fourth

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Speaker 4: it knowing that guess what our defense got great field position.

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Speaker 5: Well, when you go for it on fourth down, you

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Speaker 2: It's like psychological. Yeah, yeah, like psychological.

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say we check out on a fourth down.

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Speaker 5: We're shocked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're almost shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We feel fourth downs in a different way than.

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Speaker 3: Let them scold now they're finna go for two.

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Speaker 2: What's talk about?

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Speaker 1: Both these things and so obviously when we talk about

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it is, right, And I think

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Speaker 4: Austin, Oh my god, Yes, Bruh, listen to me, me

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Speaker 5: He literally you see a bird's feather, that's way he

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Speaker 5: that's crazy. Like I have played against the Brett faz,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm so happy he's back for the run game,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been uh, it's been really impressive,

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Speaker 1: And just as a reminder, this is our Getting geek

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Speaker 2: We're talking stats.

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Speaker 1: Fred he always talking stats and what Getting Geeked is

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Speaker 2: Who Fred seat geek and what's the read you're so

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Speaker 2: good at it?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I get presented by seat geek the most disruptive

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Speaker 5: idea in tickety a ticket that works.

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Speaker 3: Expect the expect it seek. Yes, very disruptive.

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Speaker 1: And so again we're talking numbers, we're talking stats, we're

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Speaker 2: Right, no blitz. There's a quarterback spy.

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Speaker 1: Jaden does a great job staring right down the pipe, says, oh,

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Speaker 2: So in Oz does a great, beautiful choice outside stem

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Speaker 1: But understanding what you're presenting and what his presence gives you, Right,

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Speaker 1: you've got this guy who for his entire career, Todd

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about light them up is what he does.

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Speaker 5: But I told you that Patrick Mahone Jane Dangs effect

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Speaker 5: makes them something that they're not. And when you do that,

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Speaker 3: So I know you go with the numbers of logan.

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Speaker 4: What was the percentages from week one to the third week? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so far as blitzes, Yeah, because my thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so.

440
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,879
Speaker 4: Will you sometime when a guy say you showed them this, Now,

441
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 4: let's make sure and then back out of it. So

442
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,600
Speaker 4: I was wondering when we get that kind of you

443
00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean, get that game.

444
00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 1: It did pressure, but on third down it wasn't the same.

445
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080
Speaker 1: They were really aware of him as a runner. There

446
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,359
Speaker 1: was a lot of Spidey saw early on.

447
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:00,880
Speaker 2: I think on the.

448
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 3: First two spies on the first.

449
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 1: Third and two right where they go for it on

450
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: fourth and to the next play, there's Levante David in

451
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 1: a in a straight spy usually don't see straight Yeah,

452
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,680
Speaker 1: straight spy and usually now you'd see less straight spy

453
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,959
Speaker 1: because you lose you demanders, right, and even if you're

454
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,280
Speaker 1: playing man coverage, you use that plug player that can

455
00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,959
Speaker 1: kind of help out in certain inside breaking routes. So,

456
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,919
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of focus and attention they were

457
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 1: giving the Jade Daniels. He's earned that, you know what

458
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, He's earned that kind of attention, that focus.

459
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Another kind of crazy stat about Jane Daniels. Okay, so

460
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 1: he has had more games in his career with zero

461
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: punts and zero turnovers. Three that now listen to me

462
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 1: Brady Montana, Peyton Manning, and Mahomes combined, combined.

463
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 3: And that this is one year for him.

464
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been say this is this is the worst

465
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 5: he going to ever be. This is this is ground

466
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 5: zero for this kid to be doing this is different.

467
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 5: For him to be doing it in his own way.

468
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 5: To my like, he does it in his own way.

469
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 5: Like he's the type guy I could blink and he

470
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 5: got two hundred and fifty yards and I don't even

471
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 5: know it.

472
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:11,959
Speaker 3: Downtown.

473
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,360
Speaker 5: I want to get some props to downtown, dummy Brown.

474
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 3: Because like that he had on town yummy brown.

475
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 5: Un Listen, he had one of those games that for

476
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 5: a receiver, it's dangerous because it's not now. I could

477
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 5: do this every game if you give me the chance

478
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 5: to like the one thing you don't want to get receivers,

479
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 5: you don't give it them the confidence like this, especially

480
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 5: a guy that could actually run past you when he

481
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 5: wants to. Like so for him to come out there

482
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 5: and have this game, because he's had his ups and

483
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 5: downs in the year, he had a couple of drop

484
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 5: touchdowns that he know he's supposed to have and for

485
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 5: him to have the complete game during the playoffs, man,

486
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 5: that's a comfidence.

487
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 3: Give myself a little credit for that.

488
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 2: Man.

489
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: You know, I went out the pregame, I went on

490
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: the limb. You know that.

491
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 4: You know I had to take that superstitious I had

492
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 4: to take over a moment. But but see, I understand

493
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 4: the he wants with when it comes to us as receivers,

494
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 4: when somebody lift us up and even if we don't

495
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 4: hear it, I put it in the air. I talked about,

496
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 4: you know, our receiver Cord, about how you know, Dyamic

497
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 4: all these guys are or have been this year, and

498
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 4: I spoke about it. I said, man, you know, let it,

499
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 4: let us be said. Dummy Brown is a game changer.

500
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 4: If he just stepped into that role and take it

501
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 4: by the horns, He's a game changer. His ability to run,

502
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 4: his catch radius, the things he can do in the

503
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 4: short those short pass we've been getting those slip screens.

504
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 4: He showed he got forty attempts this year. He caught

505
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 4: thirty of them. Yeah, I know, half of them being

506
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 4: slip screens. So what he's been producing and making yardage

507
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 4: and and moving the change for us. So that's how

508
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 4: I felt coming into this game about it. I'm like, man,

509
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 4: he's a difference maker. Man, if we allow him to

510
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: be there, if he allowed himself to be there.

511
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 5: Man, the receiver from Pitt Antonio Brien, that's my guy.

512
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 5: He reminds me of him and Dummy Brown because I

513
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 5: had to check in Tonio. I had to check in

514
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 5: probably body, body type and body typing, the way that

515
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 5: they run.

516
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but see Theami is a lot faster. Yeah, well

517
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 4: I feel well he could put him up. He put

518
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 4: down Miami guy. Yeah, and Tonyo had this Tonyo running

519
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: like your boy.

520
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 3: I told you seventeen from from from Pitt back in

521
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: the day.

522
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: He might not be as fast as him, but they

523
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: on the same line when it comes to.

524
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.

525
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about. So, but I

526
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 4: just I was thrilled to see him go out there

527
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 4: and be number two. It was at one point in

528
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: the game, he's so used to coming out.

529
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he about to.

530
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: Check himself out and coach like go back in there, like.

531
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and critical receptions for him. I mean, like, there's

532
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: obviously a touchdown, which you know, to me is like

533
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: that skinner concept double post and bringing Terry across the

534
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: formation like that about him across and they literally just

535
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 1: dropped him and like on that one. So the old

536
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: line had a hard time run the football this week,

537
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: and then so to the backs. But there were some

538
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: moments in this game where the past protection.

539
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 6: Was was still great, fantastic, and on that play he's

540
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 6: back there, he's able to check the first post, able

541
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 6: to check the high cross, get back to that, and

542
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 6: it was just like you don't see that very often.

543
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: It's the same thing on Terry's touchdown. And again it's

544
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: it's Fred's point. It's the Jayden and Daniels effect because

545
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: you're not getting a pressure in this critical moment where

546
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is gonna pressure all the time.

547
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, I can't do it. I can't do it.

548
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: I can't do it.

549
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 4: And you see the touch on Terry's touchdown or like

550
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 4: over the middle, you know, hands and bodies allud say,

551
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: Terry Kane, Terry ran the end route and look, it's

552
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: so thank you football guys.

553
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: Again.

554
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: I keep, I keep, you know, praising my football. You know,

555
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta thank them because I'm sitting there

556
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 4: when I saw the cone and go out. The first

557
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: thing I say, be minched. I'm gonna like thirty two up. Yeah,

558
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what they play. If they got somebody

559
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 4: over the top of him, I want to see it.

560
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. The first route that Terry ran, he didn't even

561
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: look at Terry. I don't even know what. I think.

562
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: It was a go rounte, I say, coach, I would

563
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 4: have he was already off. Yeah, I said, I would

564
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: have pressure him like I'm going to go come back

565
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: and stop, come back, curl you name me, hitches. I'm

566
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: doing everything to threaten this guy with Terry speed to

567
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: them down, because that's what they were doing us. They

568
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: were taking advantage of how soft he was outside. They

569
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: run a quick house. They running those ten yards.

570
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: What we geting?

571
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 3: Bingo?

572
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: So they saw the Cowboys do that to us early

573
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 4: this year, so they say, okay, these are gonna be solved.

574
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna do this. When thirty two came in the game,

575
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, scrap, what we doing? Go at him? And

576
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 4: it took a while, but when we got to it

577
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 4: was the touchdown when we needed do you know the most.

578
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: So when I saw the route, Terry kind of rusted

579
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: the little he went that because you know it's short.

580
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 4: Terry went on and gave him one two he bit

581
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 4: for he failed for the but none of the tailpipe. Ye,

582
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: and if the ball was just on turf fence off,

583
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: Terry had enough time to come back and say, you

584
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 4: know what, let me make sure kiss.

585
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: I mean so, I man, I'm.

586
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: Just on that one too, Tanna. Like he's working to

587
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the offensive, right, he's working to Yeah, they're working kind

588
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: of like that jerk, right. I remember that you heard

589
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: were you come in the middle, then you take off.

590
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: So they're trying to work that, but it's not there.

591
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: He can reset protections excellent and then delivers a great ball.

592
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: So again like offensive line talking about physical whatever, but

593
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: they from a past protection.

594
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 5: Stam Poultry in motion watching Sam Southeast. Sam caused me

595
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: Pool and you're like, I love to watching Pool.

596
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: Like when he pulls.

597
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 5: Around these corners, he is coming to destroy somebody.

598
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: You can tell that the honist wasn't him all the

599
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: way himself. Yeah, bro, he did a great job, especially

600
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: on that that fourth whatever was third down late in

601
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: the game where where uh j D kind of came

602
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 4: out of there fake like he was giving the ball and

603
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: you watch made that play. He don't get out there

604
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 4: in front of that guy. His his block made the play,

605
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So the wild boards, yeah,

606
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: before had his hands full. They was lining up on

607
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: his side trying to.

608
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: Get guess what, because he's a rooks a rookie, they

609
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: gonna try rookie. I'm trying to make that point.

610
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: He had his hands full, but in those critical moments

611
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: where we needed him the most, he's still tall, you know.

612
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was great to see you. And again

613
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: like the natural playmaking Jayden and Daniels kind of supporting

614
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the offensive line supporting him like one

615
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: of my favorite players of the game was when it

616
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: was Dammy's second catch of the game where across the

617
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: middle he runs to the right, Jayden, it looks like

618
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna run its cover two. The two guys step

619
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: up right over top. Like just just the maturity that

620
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: we've seen him over the course of the year, like

621
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: remaining a passer, and then the physicality of Diami. It's

622
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: that ball and running that TV over Like yeah, because

623
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I did an interview with him post game, and you know,

624
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty big guy, but I was like, dang, Dami,

625
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: what are you like six to two? You know what

626
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you're a big fella. So it was

627
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: just great to see everybody kind of step up in Diami.

628
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: Terry's touchdown, Yeah, Oz had some great blocks the offensive line,

629
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: Eckler hurts. We talked about that, like really it was

630
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: just and that's there's one thing that I want to

631
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: take give the fans, right is like it is so

632
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: hard in the NFL to go on a seventeen play

633
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: drive because someone's gonna screw something up.

634
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Something So it's could be a holding penalty, could be a.

635
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: Sackah, We're trying to throw a bubble scrat how many

636
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: times you seen a bubble stream get thrown the receiver

637
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: miss the block.

638
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: And getting blew up. Right, No, right, you're absolutely right.

639
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: And so for them to do that, they had a

640
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: seventeen play drive, that eleven play drive at a twelve

641
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: play drive and like it's they're just well coached, well executed.

642
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: And again it's a very small margin fair, but they

643
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: did it.

644
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: They got done.

645
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: And this guy's making plays because I want to mention

646
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: that catch by Terry, that go route when he got

647
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: the guy got him, set them, set them outside, got

648
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: skinny inside of.

649
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: Him and you can see Terry.

650
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 4: Terry had his governor because he was sitting there waiting like,

651
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 4: come on, put it out there, jay, But you know

652
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: he didn't put it out there. He put it in

653
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 4: the bucket. And it's time and time again. This dude

654
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: has somebody clinging on to him and he come up

655
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: with these catches.

656
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 5: Bro, He's a happy pasty. The reason I loved Terry.

657
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 5: His hairline is happy. He's smiling, he's smiling. I love it.

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Speaker 5: But I love mean Terry, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I love it when he get going here, when he

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Speaker 5: get going, because they always say, don't mess with the

661
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Speaker 5: quiet they always take. Don't mess with the CHOI dude,

662
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Speaker 5: but the QUI dude is unpredictable, like Terry is that

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Speaker 5: type of dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm very nice, but if you want.

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Speaker 5: To make me, you want to get this this ghetto

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Speaker 5: out of me, I can beat it.

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Speaker 4: When he put on that man the boot to you

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Speaker 4: do you put that mask alone night for you.

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Speaker 3: Put the money in the band. Put the money in

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Speaker 3: the band. It's gonna be alone night.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: That's us getting geeks and we want to say thanks

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Speaker 1: again to Seek because they just do such a great job.

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Speaker 2: Bringing that segment and you know, helping us with the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what if I want to sit behind a pole?

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Speaker 2: No, no, we don't. We don't do that with geek No,

677
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Speaker 2: that tyt of thing right, well, they we will sell

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Speaker 2: your ticket behind a pole. Wanted to if you were

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Speaker 2: that out, if you're one of those.

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Speaker 3: People who like kind of cheap, so he might sit

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Speaker 3: behind it. But I'm going to an opera, Yeah, I

682
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Speaker 3: want to sit behind.

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Speaker 2: The bread because nothing Fred, have you been doing opera ever?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I don't even you know what you go?

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Speaker 3: I have?

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Speaker 5: I have When I was dating the girl, she she

687
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Speaker 5: she did ballet. She was a pro professional of ballet dancer.

688
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Speaker 6: Like, let's go to the you know Oka say, you

689
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Speaker 6: know and opera different like that type stuff.

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Speaker 5: So I went to it and almost lost my mind.

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Speaker 5: Ye it wouldn't be worse. You're probably be laughing joking

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Speaker 5: on people.

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Speaker 2: Know.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying there, like why am I here?

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Speaker 1: I've been to one opera and again, like they're in

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Speaker 1: Italian sometimes like there are different languages obviously, but sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's just like if you get a really good singer,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like captivating. Now, I will say, an opera,

699
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Speaker 1: you mess around, be there for three hours? It's too long,

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00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: which is a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yea, I've been saying like and then I'm just sitting

702
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Speaker 5: there losing. Like so when I get to lose and

703
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Speaker 5: I just get to talk, you know, people don't want.

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Speaker 3: To talk like set up and I'm like, dude, you can't.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 5: I have aged nineteen years since we've been in here

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Speaker 5: an hour?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well you know what else made me

709
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Speaker 1: age quite a bit? Fourth down decisions and so as

710
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Speaker 1: always dan Quinn risking it for the biscuit, and this

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Speaker 1: is always brought to us presented by excuse me right

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: They do a great job, man, So we're really thankful

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Speaker 1: they brought us risking for the Biscuit and Dan Quinn

718
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Speaker 1: is consistently risking for them.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say every day and in the league like

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Speaker 5: you just they believe in going for it on fourth down.

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Speaker 5: If your name is Dan, we are four down team

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Speaker 5: like and I like that because they are they embody

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Speaker 5: football like.

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Speaker 3: Both of these coaches I did.

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Speaker 5: The team has taken on their their identity and they

726
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Speaker 5: are all football nothing like. This is so funny to me.

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Speaker 5: They always say, I have heard this. You was meant

728
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Speaker 5: to be this.

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Speaker 3: I can't see.

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Speaker 5: Dan Campbell and Dan Quinn being anything else.

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Speaker 3: Did a football coach? Imagine Day and Quinn being your

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Speaker 3: gym teacher.

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Speaker 2: If you're a damn good one, you'd be a great one.

734
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Speaker 1: But have you seen the speeches like I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: seen on instagram d the day Campbell's speeches like take

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Speaker 1: him into deep Water.

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Speaker 2: I love that Take them.

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Speaker 3: We got them where we won't. We got them white,

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Speaker 3: we won't.

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Speaker 5: Like some guys are meant to do what they're doing

741
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Speaker 5: in these dans, meant to be leaders of men and coaches.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. I mean, that's I mean, Clapp Frank,

743
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Speaker 1: that's great.

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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Good job, poetry, emotion. All right. So

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Speaker 2: let's talk about fourth down decisions.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk more nerdy stuff here in a second,

747
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Speaker 1: but I always like to start with a fun kind

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Speaker 1: of statistic. Okay, Jane Daniel's fourth down conversion percentage is

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Speaker 1: eighty six point nine percent.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm on the dice sales, I sam salms in

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Speaker 3: a row.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Just to give you some context, Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 1: free throw percentage, Fred, do you think it's more or less?

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Speaker 2: It's on the.

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Speaker 3: Sheets since she brought it up, it's probably it is less.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: His free throw percentage is eighty three point five percent.

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Speaker 1: So if you were betting on Michael Jordan making a

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Speaker 1: free throw or Jane Daniels converting a fourth down, you

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Speaker 1: have better eyes.

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Speaker 3: And that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. It is crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable not to go. He ain't going after the go.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, you know, they ain't gonna let that live.

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Speaker 5: Not gonna say like we're gonna get shot down about Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Can't even live with this situation right here. But that's

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Speaker 3: unbel like.

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Speaker 5: It's no more of a sure thing than Michael Jordan

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Speaker 5: making a free throw and Jordan and.

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Speaker 3: Jane Daniels being.

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Speaker 5: More on fourth down, on the down that most people

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Speaker 5: won't even attempt.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: But I think when you look at it, half of

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Speaker 4: it is you know how amazing he is with his legs,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, you you fail to realize that

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Speaker 4: this dude is he's about he's he's as accurate as.

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Speaker 3: The best of them. Yeah, and I mean at this

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Speaker 3: time in his career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, first season as a rookie, he's been throwing into

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Speaker 4: more small windows than I've seen in a long time

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Speaker 4: from any quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So I said, he was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, he's random kind of hand for

786
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Speaker 5: me because he random could sling it. But then you

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Speaker 5: forget about their legs in the end, you focus on

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Speaker 5: their legs and you forget that he exaccurate. So it's like,

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Speaker 5: damn if I do, Damned if I don't, I'm trapped

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about differences in the game, and I

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Speaker 1: will say, Tampa Bay Man, they came out with a

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Speaker 1: plan that was like, hey, we know you like to

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Speaker 1: run zone read on fourth and short, and you're not

795
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Speaker 1: going to run it, and so we had to put

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Speaker 1: the ball in Jade's Jaydon Daniel's hands in a different way,

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Speaker 1: which just him as a passer. And it was great

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Speaker 1: to see him execute those moments. And again, this has

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Speaker 1: been talked to death, but it's such an impressive thing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talking about it some more. It's his composure

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Speaker 1: on third down and fourth down. It's like any other

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Speaker 1: it's any other down for him. It's there's not like this.

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Speaker 1: You've probably been a part of some offensive tanda where

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Speaker 1: it's like we're going far and fourth down and everyone's.

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Speaker 5: Like hyper sensitive, everybody high perscive in those situations. No,

806
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Speaker 5: he calms like, I wish I could be in a

807
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Speaker 5: huddle him because I bet he got just to.

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Speaker 3: Come and you can see it on you can sit

809
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Speaker 3: on watching the game.

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Speaker 4: I mean you just see his his The meana doesn't change,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he's telling everybody else calm down and go,

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Speaker 4: come on, get right here, let's go. And not only that,

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Speaker 4: if you just watch some of the key moments in

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Speaker 4: games when where he don't know what's going on, but

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Speaker 4: he's on the sideline the meana, don't change ice cold,

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Speaker 4: just sit He didn't even know we won the game.

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Speaker 4: He was sitting there looking. Everybody was like and he

818
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Speaker 4: was like, oh we won.

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Speaker 3: Okay. He wasn't reading a brown.

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Speaker 2: Dude, So he was trying to say that.

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Speaker 3: He brings up his credit. He has done it before.

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Speaker 3: He did it against us.

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Speaker 2: He brings it out.

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Speaker 3: He had it.

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Speaker 5: He did on the sideline against up. He did it

826
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Speaker 5: and get what he lost. No, they didn't lose, but

827
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Speaker 5: he had a good game. So to his credit, he's

828
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Speaker 5: not lying.

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Speaker 3: I never read.

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Speaker 4: It, but I saw the receipts. The receipts he's got

831
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Speaker 4: yourself before and he done him plenty of time.

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Speaker 5: And guess what, as a deeper receiver, if that takes

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Speaker 5: your diva away.

834
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Speaker 4: I was to say so for him being being as

835
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Speaker 4: obnaxious he can be to some quarterbacks, yeah, I think

836
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Speaker 4: it's it's it's a good thing to kind of Woosaw.

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Speaker 5: You know, I wish I would have thought it. I

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Speaker 5: would have had green eggs and ham I would read it.

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Speaker 1: Calms me down, Dodtor sus you imagine, because you imagine

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Speaker 1: other places you'll go everyone every week it's a different doctors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that listen, I know this, Just be like me.

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Speaker 5: Man, he's probably Finnah get it, what's the name from

843
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Speaker 5: Barnes And probably.

844
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Speaker 2: He just made that author so much.

845
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Speaker 3: But do you know how much money he just made

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Speaker 3: that off?

847
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Speaker 1: Like that's like the big for the athletic community and

848
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: everyone saw that. Yeah, and that dude's about to sell

849
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Speaker 1: five million copies of that, at least in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: At least in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I be thinking about in the sideline,

852
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Speaker 4: but I'm like to read a book. I can't do

853
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: that in the middle of a game, you know what

854
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So whatever it is he got going on,

855
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: the demon's up there. That's the way you come down.

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Speaker 5: Well, if I'm listen to Yoshana read a book years ago,

857
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Speaker 5: I bring the.

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Speaker 3: Diva out of what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You got Oh, dude, you got some really you got

860
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Speaker 4: some voices up there. Boy, if you gotta read. If

861
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 4: you got to come yourself down to read a book.

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Speaker 5: At least the book was a self betterment book. It

863
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: wouldn't like like if he was reading a novel. I say, like,

864
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: you can tell like that if it was a romance novel,

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Speaker 5: did we like?

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Speaker 3: Because I saw him on that. I saw him a couple.

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Speaker 4: Of years ago walking on the sideline looking at Jays

868
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: and Hurts like, wow, shoe flex you read now this ball.

869
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Speaker 4: So for him, the hurts got this love for him

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Speaker 4: to add a book to that you already read.

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Speaker 3: He's calming himself down.

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00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 5: The only thing, the only book he could have read

873
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: that would have been better was the Bible. Like imagine

874
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: that if he was just reading the Bible on the side,

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Speaker 5: I need Jesus, like at this time, I need Jesus

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Speaker 5: in my life.

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Speaker 3: I told him all day.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, we started this segment talking about four thousands and

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Speaker 1: we got into books which are also big, but he

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Speaker 1: ended up with the Bible. So we talked about Jayson

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Speaker 1: Daniels and his role in the fourth round, Right, but

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the decision to go

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Speaker 1: for it on fourth downd. Okay, So I'm gonna approach

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Speaker 1: this from two ways, Like there's the mathway, right, So,

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Speaker 1: like why you go for it on fourth down? This

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Speaker 1: as an example, specifically in the red zone, you go

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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down. The simplest reason is that

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Speaker 1: you can get seven points.

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Speaker 3: Instead of three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And so people say, well you should always

891
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Speaker 2: take the points. No, you are basically if you kick

892
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Speaker 2: a field goal, it takes two possessions to get one touchdown, right,

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Speaker 2: So I basically right, if I go for.

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Speaker 1: It twice, right and I get seven points, I still

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Speaker 1: get more points than if I kick two field goals.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense to Yeah, So people forget that

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Speaker 1: you're basically playing because the touchdown is worth so much more.

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Speaker 2: You got to there. There's a still.

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Speaker 1: A financial incentive because it's worth double plus one.

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Speaker 5: See when I did the smoothalytics on it, Yeah, talk

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Speaker 5: about I understood that as a defensive player.

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Speaker 3: All right, yes, two trips it's more than one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, basic man, But like real talk, that's it more.

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Speaker 3: You really want the facts. But this is the thing too,

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Speaker 3: what people fail to realize.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is what people aren't basically you know,

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Speaker 4: so anal about they looking at it as.

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Speaker 3: I just want points.

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Speaker 4: I just want points as trd as hell to score

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Speaker 4: in this league.

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Speaker 3: Ye, so I would take the three.

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Speaker 4: But what they fail to realize it ain't always given

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Speaker 4: that we're gonna score.

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Speaker 2: Over that three.

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Speaker 3: So I love it.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: I can live with it. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that's one element.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So that's why getting a fourth down in a red

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Speaker 1: zone is so important, because it makes it more likely

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Speaker 1: that you scored, that you're gonna score a touchdown, which

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Speaker 1: is worth more points than a field goal, right lytics.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I always think about, too, is

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Speaker 1: so when you are going for it on fourth and goal, right,

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Speaker 1: So fourth and goal from the two, if we don't

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Speaker 1: get it, so what it doesn't matter the chance of

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Speaker 1: you're driving for people say, oh, you should have taken three.

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Speaker 1: But listen to this, right, So if I kick a

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Speaker 1: field goal right, and then I kick off to the

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Speaker 1: opposing team.

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Speaker 2: They get the ball at the twenty five and the

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Speaker 2: third twenty five to thirty yard line, they are I

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Speaker 2: think it's there.

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Speaker 1: It's like forty five percent likely of them scoring a

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Speaker 1: touchdown from that position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it is from them being backed up,

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Speaker 2: it's five percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna go three and out, they're gonna punt

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Speaker 1: it to me. I'm gonna get short feet on a

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Speaker 1: short field, and then I'm gonna have a fifty percent

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Speaker 1: chance of scoring a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at the aggregate maths logan, you

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Speaker 1: see it aggregate. In the red zone, you should almost

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Speaker 1: always go for it. Now, there are exceptions to this. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're at like the thirty five yard line, kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal, right, because if you if they if

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Speaker 1: you give it back to them, then they can go

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Speaker 1: down and score.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And then there's that weird kind of no man's area

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Speaker 1: where it's like you don't get the value of a punt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If the goal zone, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like that go zone where you would also go

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Speaker 1: for it. But in the red zone, which I forget

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Speaker 1: how many of them were in the red zone, I

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Speaker 1: think all of them. Yeah, you should definitely go for it,

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Speaker 1: go for it, right, especially if it's third and less

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Speaker 1: or fourth and less than five.

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Speaker 2: Right. So that's what I'm saying is I think.

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Speaker 1: Analytically all of these decisions, yeah, were spot on the

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Speaker 1: one field good they did take it was fourth and six.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of plays that you like

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Speaker 1: for fourth and six, but all those that are fourth

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Speaker 1: and less than five, the math favors you, right, And

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Speaker 1: we're saving ourselves. We're giving ourselves multiple bytes to score

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Speaker 1: seven points, which is what we're trying to dig it.

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Speaker 1: So I think when people say, oh, take the points,

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Speaker 1: I understand there's a traditionalism to doing that, but when

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Speaker 1: you look at the math, the math.

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Speaker 2: Is basically like go, go go.

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Speaker 1: Especially inside the twenty and now there are coaches like

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell who's like, go, I don't care, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what the math says.

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Speaker 3: Oh, she's fourth and forty. Yeah this.

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Speaker 2: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I think like the Dan Campbell thing is interesting

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Speaker 1: because he's actually just playing into what his team wants. Yes,

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Speaker 1: like the mentality of his team, and he said something

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Speaker 1: I think is great from a football standpoint. He's like,

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Speaker 1: my offense right now is significantly better than my defense.

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Speaker 1: I want them deciding games. Yes, so I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go for more fourth downs.

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Speaker 2: Yes. I don't know if the commanders are there yet, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they're close.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Just a guy, Jason, what we got?

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question with all this math. Yes,

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Speaker 3: what happens if we play out all these situations in

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Speaker 3: this game and we kick field goals instead of go

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you asked that, but how is that playing?

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Speaker 1: You put that on here? Yeah, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great stat because I was I was gonna get

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Speaker 1: to that. But basically, okay, So twice they failed on

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Speaker 1: a fourth down, right, twice they succeeded. That's four points.

1000
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Speaker 1: If you kick four field goals, how many points is that?

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Speaker 2: Twelve? And if you score two touchdowns, how many points

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Speaker 2: is that fourteen? Fourteen?

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Speaker 1: And that illustrates the point we're making at the beginning, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you kick field goals, it's really well point, it's

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Speaker 1: twelve points. It's twelve points, and it's it's you take

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Speaker 1: your you're basically every time you do that, you're saying,

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Speaker 1: this offense now has one possession.

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Speaker 2: To catch up.

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Speaker 5: Yes, right, because it takes you always go and beat

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Speaker 5: a position back.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, because two drives that lead to field goals, right,

1012
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: two field goals at six points.

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Speaker 1: One drive smooth lydis leads to seven points, and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna win the game. So when I look at every

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Speaker 1: single decision that Dan made this game to go for

1016
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Speaker 1: it on fourth down. I got a bunch of people

1017
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Speaker 1: on Instagram being like, this is stupid, as you think

1018
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Speaker 1: you very rarely in the red zone. Will you get

1019
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Logan Paulson to be like, don't go for it?

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Speaker 5: So so basically were like five years from Elave Musk

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Speaker 5: having machine being on the sideline colon.

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Speaker 2: Play I mean right now.

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Speaker 1: So ESPN when I was doing research for this, ESPN

1024
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Speaker 1: has a graphic that they put in that they calculate

1025
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Speaker 1: the percentage of winning if you punt, kick a field.

1026
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Speaker 2: Goal, or go for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And based on that metric, every fourth down except

1028
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: for one which Dan kicked the field goal on should

1029
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: you should have gone for it? It's like forty seven

1030
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: percent chance of winning if you go for it, and

1031
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Speaker 1: then it's like forty percent chance if you punt, thirty

1032
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: seven percent if you kick.

1033
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Speaker 2: The field goal.

1034
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Speaker 1: Right, So, like they do that all the time, and

1035
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Speaker 1: I'm sure this team, I would assume because of how

1036
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Speaker 1: aggressive they are in these fourth down situations, they have

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Speaker 1: somebody in the box being like, yeah, this.

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Speaker 2: Is doing this is the math.

1039
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to get off subject, off topic.

1040
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Speaker 2: Let's get off it. I think we've exhausted.

1041
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Speaker 4: How how did you feel about when we was getting

1042
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: ready to set ourselves up to win the game, Jayden

1043
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: going to the left too far to the left and

1044
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Speaker 4: kneeling instead of just taking it and kneeling right now.

1045
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Speaker 3: So I think that the kicker told him this is

1046
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Speaker 3: where I feel good kicking. So why you still hit

1047
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Speaker 3: the pole?

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Speaker 2: Imagine what I'm saying, Imagine if that hadn't gone left,

1049
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Speaker 2: if you the state.

1050
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Speaker 4: Runs not noth no, because if you think about it,

1051
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Speaker 4: the other two he made earlier that game straight down

1052
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Speaker 4: the middle, and we was we was in probably practically

1053
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Speaker 4: in the.

1054
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Speaker 3: Middle of the field.

1055
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Speaker 4: So I'm like to myself, like, why this particular down

1056
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Speaker 4: you wanted it?

1057
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Speaker 5: I really do think Coach Quinn asked him where do

1058
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Speaker 5: you want me to put it on the left?

1059
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Speaker 3: Hash? On the right hash? And I think he said left.

1060
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Speaker 4: And he saying to myself, when you kick it down

1061
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Speaker 4: the middle when he was in the middle of field, Yeah,

1062
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Speaker 4: he had no problem went straight on the middle. Now

1063
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Speaker 4: we over here, you have to hang it a little

1064
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: more out because you don't want to kick it down

1065
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Speaker 4: the middle and it bends and you miss it on

1066
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Speaker 4: the left side. But I'm like, I think us as athlete,

1067
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Speaker 4: we have never understand it.

1068
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Speaker 5: We never understand it. We have never understand kickers. It

1069
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Speaker 5: just it ain't for us to understand, all right.

1070
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm glad you brought the kicking thing because

1071
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Speaker 1: it kind of goes back to that fourth down thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, So if you kick four field goals right and

1074
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Speaker 1: you take the points, right, it's eighteen to twenty, right,

1075
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Speaker 1: and you're kicking to win the game or.

1076
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Speaker 2: To lose the game when you go for it. What

1077
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Speaker 2: was the score twenty? So even if you miss the

1078
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Speaker 2: field goal, which.

1079
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Speaker 3: We still got football to play.

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Speaker 1: We still got football to play, right, And I think,

1081
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Speaker 1: like again, that's just where you're You can't be in

1082
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Speaker 1: the moment. You can't be in the moment of three points. Yeah,

1083
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: you got to think what gives me the best chance

1084
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: to be winning this football game right now? If you

1085
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: miss all the fourth downs, yeah, you're gonna lose. Yeah,

1086
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Speaker 1: You're you're going to hit a couple I think with it,

1087
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Speaker 1: especially with how well Jane dan Is is playing it again,

1088
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Speaker 1: whether the field goal should have been in the middle

1089
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Speaker 1: or the left, like made it thank god, by the way,

1090
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Speaker 1: than I was standing on the sideline. I was watching it,

1091
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Speaker 1: and right when it came off his foot, I was like,

1092
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Speaker 1: he missed this thing because it kind of did this

1093
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Speaker 1: like whoo yeah yeah. I was like, oh no, and

1094
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Speaker 1: then right off the inside of it and.

1095
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Speaker 3: See the crazy thing about it.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the studio right, so we got this bad

1097
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Speaker 5: in the studio where we're listening to the broadcast from

1098
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 5: bram in London, which is ahead of the TV.

1099
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 3: All right, So I got this war going on.

1100
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 5: So I'm literally listening to the kick, right, I hear

1101
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: the kick come off his foot and you hear it

1102
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 5: go bo and Brahm in London just go quiet quiet.

1103
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: No one knew, they didn't know, didn't know nothing. The

1104
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: next thing, the next thing to from TV. The next

1105
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: thing I hear is drink all right and the crowd

1106
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 5: is still quiet.

1107
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we missed it, like he blew it.

1108
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: Cut him come getting dollars like he blew it. Then

1109
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: I hear that like oh.

1110
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: We was like if you watch it from where we

1111
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: was at. We was in the tunnel, you know, it's

1112
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: always for.

1113
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: You know, watching the Jumbo trunk.

1114
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: So were watching, but I didn't want to watch the

1115
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: Jumbo t I'm watching the TV. So I'm watching the

1116
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: TV and I'm like, I'm already supers this is I

1117
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: already know that.

1118
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: So he probably got like a dead rabbit and I'm.

1119
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: Sitting there with no you know what I do is

1120
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: I don't get overly excited for stuff like that. I'm like,

1121
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: just make it, bro tele to break after it. So

1122
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: everybody kind of was like, they kind of give you

1123
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: a handshake something. They're like you and to make this first,

1124
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: you know, when it hit my whole my whole face

1125
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: is like and.

1126
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: Then he said it looked like children.

1127
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: When he said he made I was like, he tried

1128
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: to miss it, you know. I meiately went to like

1129
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: he tried to lose the game.

1130
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: Especially because the fugal he made was an absolute laser bus.

1131
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, the hell out of that thing.

1132
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: And then I was like, this is easy.

1133
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: Maybe it was trusted when I saw when I saw

1134
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 4: the antics, I was the one before anyone started posting

1135
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: about it. When he was walking on the I was like, bro,

1136
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: actually on BC, I said, BC, if he touched his

1137
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 4: head one more time out putting that damn helmet on,

1138
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: I know something and that right there already shook me

1139
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: because I never knew about what he had going on

1140
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: because I didn't I didn't know him by the doc D.

1141
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: So when I saw it, I'm like, oh crap, this

1142
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: man is nervous. Yeah, and so that's what made me

1143
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: really kind of get buckled it. I was like, man,

1144
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: let me see let me watch this.

1145
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is, I've been on the sideline

1146
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: every single game this year. I've never seen him, never

1147
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: seen it. I've never seen him do it.

1148
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 5: So it was come on playoffs, we haven't been here

1149
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 5: in one hundred years, and it's all a win.

1150
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: Gonzale.

1151
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I know he does do it, but like it's just

1152
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like you ain't paying attention.

1153
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I didn't see him do it, and then so like

1154
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: to see the whole I've seen him take a shoe off,

1155
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: I've seen him do all that before, but the hair thing,

1156
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: because you're like, you're not watching that.

1157
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: You're looking at that.

1158
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: I gave him a nickname, O did Big Gang Gonzales

1159
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: instead of saying big game.

1160
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: Really kicked the ball well and the kickoff kicked it will.

1161
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I know we don't like talking about kicking on this show.

1162
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: But like he made the field goals, which is great,

1163
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: but also the kickoffs, the way he's been kicking the

1164
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: ball off getting touchbacks, that's.

1165
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 4: Been a huge he did he did beside the hit

1166
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: that you could don't get. He don't us into the

1167
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: and he doing us into week two. But he did

1168
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: a fabulous job of doing his job.

1169
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: And that's like they say, you never need a kicker

1170
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 5: until you need him.

1171
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And so that's going to do it for

1172
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: our risk, it for the biscuits segment, which we're really

1173
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: excited about. And if that made sense, we've a comment.

1174
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah why not?

1175
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 7: Yeah comment show a year Yeah, ALP playoffs right now,

1176
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 7: because this is a midweek show, we have to do

1177
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: a what a Detroit preview we got.

1178
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: So we've already talked a little bit about Dan Campbell.

1179
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: This is a fun statistic that supports Fred's vision and

1180
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: the narrative around him. One hundred and fifty one fourth

1181
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: down attempts over the last four seasons. That's most since

1182
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. Dude is getting after it.

1183
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 5: All right, let me start this off by going biblical,

1184
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 5: all right, in the Good Book.

1185
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: That's a preacher.

1186
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 5: Just did you read the Good Book. Yeah, I did

1187
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: read the Good Book a couple of times. In A

1188
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 5: Daniel walks into the lions den. Yep, you understand. Nobody

1189
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: gives Daniel a chance of coming out of the lions Well,

1190
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 5: we got a Daniel that going into the lions den.

1191
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: Dude, look at you where you're going with just just

1192
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: preaching right now.

1193
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, And nobody's giving Washington a chance of

1194
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: coming out of the lions den.

1195
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: But Washington, you understand, and guess what Jedi Daniels have

1196
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: showed us.

1197
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 5: He has to force inside of him, and he can't

1198
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 5: make reckless things happy.

1199
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: He works the.

1200
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: Gospel you made your dad, he smiled rat now back

1201
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: in Mississippi, Pops.

1202
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: But you practice this. You practice is home today in

1203
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: the morning. Before you got here, You're just like, let

1204
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: me try this one. All this one's good.

1205
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: I don't practice it. He does.

1206
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: You kind of like the practice. It just comes out

1207
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: it was good. I just throw up. It is a

1208
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: lion's den for sure. Obviously the home crowd damn being crazy.

1209
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that gives this lion its

1210
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: teeth is the offense is all offensive. The offense is

1211
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: really good. They have two thousand yard receivers.

1212
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm in ross.

1213
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: Saint Brown obviously is a special football player. He's second

1214
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: in the league in receptions one hundred and fifteen. That

1215
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: to god, he's fifth in yards. He's thirty touchdowns behind.

1216
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: You, I guess, and.

1217
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase so really good company to be behind that.

1218
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: So and then they also have Jamison Williams, who is fast.

1219
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: Take the top off in it. Then, so he's a

1220
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: Corvette dude.

1221
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: I was watching the what game was that?

1222
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: The Chicago game. They're in cover three, first down and

1223
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: they're running. Remember old Miami where you run the high

1224
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: cross and you run the post. Aldrick Robinson all the time,

1225
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: and I have not seen anybody do this in a

1226
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: long time. But he just ran a post and there's

1227
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: a post safety and just ran by him. And then

1228
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: Jared golf Arm punts this thing and catches it for

1229
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: an ad R touchdown.

1230
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 4: Bro, And he runs so effortlessly. I mean, it's just

1231
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: like and they're scary for it. And it's like he

1232
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: know it too, because he was like he'd be ready

1233
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: to already celebrate. He just run by you with a calmness.

1234
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't watching him run a post, watching

1235
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: him run to go and then watching him gonna come back.

1236
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: His ability to snap down with as fast as he

1237
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: is is very impressive. So obviously two dynamic receivers. Jamiir

1238
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: Gibbs special football player. Fourteen hundred yards rushing, sixteen touchdowns.

1239
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: He's first in the NFL five hundred and seventeen yards receiving.

1240
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: Like he's stir in the NFL with that, like they

1241
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: are sam La porters on the offense.

1242
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: Listen.

1243
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: They offense is so good that the old lines go.

1244
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 5: Touchdown like they got like five Office of line and

1245
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: they then scold touchdowns this year. It's un like being

1246
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 5: on I have never seen office where everybody's scored. Everybody scored,

1247
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: like everybody like number sixty three, like yeah, I got

1248
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 5: a touchdown to like everybody has caught.

1249
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: Like imagine as the deepest breaking down.

1250
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 5: The field, like yeah, we gotta stop seventy three.

1251
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: Like everybody they tried. They threw a hooking ladder Washington

1252
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: to a tackle. Yeah, hooking ladder to.

1253
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: Get to uh, coming out all the stuff they trying

1254
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: to get so to throw a touchdown.

1255
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: Company bring out all the stops, bro.

1256
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: So they got a lot of stuff in the book.

1257
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: But what I so, it's almost like you read in

1258
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: my mind they've got all these playmakers, but the biggest

1259
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: quote unquote playmaking group for me is the offensive They

1260
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: move people, they move people, they move pass protect and

1261
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: the way they use Pinna Sewel is incredible. Like they

1262
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: were running like a little like lead play, you know,

1263
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: and the backside double team has got to get to

1264
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker who was Fred Warner in this play,

1265
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: but instead of doing that, they were able to pull

1266
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: him and he's so fast he's able to run down

1267
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: Fred Warner, get a piece of linebacker and Jamier Gibbs

1268
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: breaks it off for thirty yards. Like they can move

1269
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: those pieces around, they can pass protect. Like there's times

1270
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: where it's like, how did they disperse the field this way?

1271
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: How do they get so much space in this concept?

1272
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, he's holding the ball for three seconds. Yeah,

1273
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: and then Jared Goff rips an absolute laser beam because

1274
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: the protection is so good.

1275
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1276
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1277
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: They have the highest third and long conversion percentage in

1278
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's thirty percent. Like they are a good,

1279
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: dangerous dynamic.

1280
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 5: Truck moving company. There's what that offensive line and three

1281
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 5: guys in the truck.

1282
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I will say they're left guards having a hard time

1283
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: though their left guard number sixt he's having a tough year.

1284
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: But everybody else on their on their group is in

1285
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: the blue. They're playing really well. It's an awesome group.

1286
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: Talk to me, Fred, you were saying this on the

1287
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: top of show Jared Golf, what do you think about him?

1288
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: He's Rodney danger field of football. They don't give him

1289
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: no respect and all he does is go out there

1290
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 5: and win.

1291
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: He's dangerous and.

1292
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: Because he doesn't use his legs like the new generation quarterbacks,

1293
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 5: nobody ever want to elevate him and say, dude, I

1294
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 5: have to remind people he's already been to a Super Bowl.

1295
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 5: Let's not like he hasn't accomplished these things. Jered Golf

1296
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 5: is legit is they get He's scary to any defensive

1297
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 5: back out there, and people need to put some respect

1298
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: on this dude.

1299
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: Name some question second in the NFL, passing second in NFL,

1300
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: and I think one of the reasons that stands out

1301
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 4: to me why they don't give him enough credit because

1302
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: in those critical moments where there's playoff game Super Bowls,

1303
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: turns the ball over and when you turn the ball.

1304
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: When you have that about yourself, don't We don't saw

1305
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks that have that effect on him. When you

1306
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: have that that's riding against your game, it's hard to

1307
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: overcome that.

1308
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: As a team. It's hard.

1309
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: You can be you can be the five thousand yard

1310
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: pass a year in and year out and get to

1311
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 4: the postseason, and when you turn that ball over and

1312
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: stop your team from being exposed to and being as

1313
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: special as this team has been year after year, that's

1314
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: gonna be your crush. That's going to be your handicapping.

1315
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: So I think that would stand out the most. I

1316
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: love golf too. I hated the way they you know,

1317
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: kind of like kick them to the curve out of

1318
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 4: the you know la. But for him to go out

1319
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: here in Detroit where no one wanted to go, he

1320
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: he is Detroit.

1321
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1322
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: Nobody respects the quarterback would have wanted to be replaced

1323
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: that way to go to this. I mean, you go

1324
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: from this sexy l a team with Sean McVay coming

1325
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 4: in here as the boy wonder and the you know,

1326
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: the the you know, with all this high flower you

1327
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: know offense and everything. He got to go say, Okay,

1328
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 4: you know what, this guy couldn't do it over there,

1329
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna sit you. I'm gonna send you over

1330
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: there to Detroit and to now make Detroit look his

1331
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 4: team look better than what the other guy who won

1332
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl where your team was at. Yeah, look

1333
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: better than what they going on both for both it

1334
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: look it worked out great.

1335
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 5: But come on, Detroit is the abyss. Yeah, I ran

1336
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 5: into a runaway dog. Say he thinking about leaving Detroit?

1337
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: Like, Detroit is the abyss? Like you see how we get?

1338
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 3: We get so far? What we're talking about, dud, you ain't.

1339
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 5: Met nobody in the land right our years, They say,

1340
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm about to move to Detroit.

1341
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: I just, you know, just to get back to what

1342
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm trying to, you know the point I'm trying to make.

1343
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: I think that's that's his crutch to me. Why doesn't

1344
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: get I watched big games from him, and it's be like, damn,

1345
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: he had one of the moments where you blinking his

1346
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: three it's three interceptions.

1347
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 3: You're like, damn God, what are you doing? You know

1348
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1349
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: So I went back and watch not all of his

1350
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: strows because there's a lot. There's like four hundred, So

1351
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. But I watched this all

1352
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: the strows from last six games, and the thing about

1353
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: him is he is confident. He's the decisive. But sometimes

1354
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: he's a little bit too confident. He's a little bit

1355
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: too decisive, like.

1356
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: He got.

1357
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: So like for example, like there's you know, like a

1358
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: bow concept right where you got a like a deep

1359
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: in and then a five yard sit and you're gonna

1360
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: reading the hook player and he is going to throw

1361
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: that dig regards.

1362
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: It's almost like you saw with his eyes closed.

1363
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's how confident is It's going to be open.

1364
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: And so sometimes there's a defender right there and it's like, okay,

1365
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: that's don't do that, you know what I'm saying. But

1366
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: so what I to the Tanni's point, like his is

1367
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: his physical talent, his confidence in himself. It leads to

1368
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: these opportunities where you can catch the football and he'll

1369
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: give it to you.

1370
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: And I wonder, I wonder if he's so confident because

1371
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 4: he knows I'd rather take a chance of throwing to

1372
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: the spot that I believe that my guy's going to

1373
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: be in, then sit here and hold his ball, and

1374
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: I can't because I can't do it, because I can't run,

1375
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: I can't get out in the pocket and do anything.

1376
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not as special when I when things break down,

1377
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: you move, I might have got But if I can

1378
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 4: get this ball to this spot and sometimes and winging

1379
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 4: a prayer, there's no one there now time out of ten,

1380
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: the guy's going to get the ball on time and

1381
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 4: be able to do something with.

1382
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like it works out for him

1383
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: because he's had an extremely productive season, extremely productive last

1384
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: couple of years. But that is something that I'm like,

1385
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: he does hold the ball in the pocket, he's gonna

1386
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: let it rip. He does turn the ball over in

1387
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: the pocket like he's not because he's always trying to

1388
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: throw it. Yeah, so there's been a couple of like

1389
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: turnover worthy opportunities this year where people have hit.

1390
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: Him from the blind side the balls come out.

1391
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: And so you're talking about ways to beat this team,

1392
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the offense here in a second,

1393
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: which I think is maybe.

1394
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: The best way. But like, he will give you opportunities.

1395
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: So I was gonna ask you, and that's why I said,

1396
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: I love aswing you question defensively, what do you do

1397
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: to make it cloudy or money for him?

1398
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: So what I would so we can have that.

1399
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: So I think I think the first everyone's first knee

1400
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: jerk reaction is like, we got to stop the run.

1401
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: And I get that, but to me, you gotta limit

1402
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: the explosive play. Ye, you gotta limit the explosive cover four,

1403
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: it's more cover full, and like, I'm okay with you

1404
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: run the football. I'm gonna I'm daring you as the

1405
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, I'm daring the play caller over there to say, like, hey,

1406
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: be patient, we're gonna go on a fourteen play drive.

1407
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't like it.

1408
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: They don't like that, and so I'm just gonna wait.

1409
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait. We're gonna get you to a third

1410
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: and eight and we gotta win. We gotta win the

1411
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: third and eight, hold just to a field goal. And

1412
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: I think that's it because initially everyone's like because they run,

1413
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: They run the heck out of football, and they're good

1414
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: at running the football. They run outsides, on inside, on

1415
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: anything you can think of. They run it and they're

1416
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: good at it. They got blocking tight ends, they got

1417
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: a full back, they've got an exit offensive line. They've

1418
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: got two dynamic runners.

1419
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: They eat knee caps. Yes, And I'm just saying, if

1420
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: you started ne captain, sure.

1421
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: Gonna run the mouse so so so to me, like

1422
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: my thought was like stop the run. But then I'm like,

1423
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't want these receivers. I don't want them over

1424
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: the top. I want to make you earn it. So

1425
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put the mouthpiece in, We're gonna

1426
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: be making tackles from depth. We're gonna tackle in space

1427
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: and just in front of me and say you gotta

1428
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: be patient. And that sucks sometimes defensively, but flip that

1429
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: over is if you get a third down and you win,

1430
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: our offense possess the yes, Dan be so aggressive on

1431
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: fourth down.

1432
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 5: Being but don't break on defense. Yes, offense, do you yes?

1433
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 5: Because like everybody predicting this to be a shootout, I

1434
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a little bit more defensive than

1435
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: people thinking.

1436
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is like their defense is

1437
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: they're banged up, man, and they're having a hard time

1438
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: being there, having a hard time. They don't have their

1439
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: elite pass rusher out, they're banged up at linebacker, they're

1440
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: banged up.

1441
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: In the dB area.

1442
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: Like, so you can, like if you watch, if you

1443
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: want a game to give you a lot of confidence,

1444
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: you got time go check out the Buffalo Bill's game

1445
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: because you watch Josh Allen and it's like you squint,

1446
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: you're like, that's Jayden Daniels.

1447
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 5: No, because they don't do well against running quarterbacks ever

1448
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 5: since Aton Hutchison, Lift that lift that defense, they do

1449
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 5: not do well with quarterbacks. They move off the spot

1450
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 5: because you're dealing with some let's just be honest.

1451
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: Back up DBS defensive line like everybody linebackers kind of

1452
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they don't.

1453
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: Have to beat up.

1454
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: And so I think like when you're like, oh, Jayden

1455
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: can extend to play like that, Jane can make this throw.

1456
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: And because there's space in the back end, they can't

1457
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: get a pass rush. They're leveraging the back end. So

1458
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: that's the side that's got to win the game for you, right,

1459
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: that's the side that's got to make it happen for you.

1460
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: So can you possess it, Tanna? Can you find some

1461
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: exposive plays? Can you find those eleven play drives? Can

1462
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: you find those twelve play drives? Because if you can

1463
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: take this from a twelve possession game eight to an

1464
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: eight possession game. You got a shot, And that's hard.

1465
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: It's a tight window, tight needle to thread. But I

1466
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: think that's the solution. And it goes back to your

1467
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: initial question, Tanna. If you can do that, your defense

1468
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a hero.

1469
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: Well, I know I talked about cover four, but now

1470
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 5: that I have seen here and thought about it, with

1471
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 5: him being none mobile, I can play a lot of

1472
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: two men under, I say, and I'm only on passing

1473
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 5: down because the threat to run stopped me from being

1474
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: in there two men but obvious passing that down. I

1475
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: can play some two men under under these wide receivers

1476
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 5: in this tight end, and I can force him to

1477
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 5: hold the ball and pat that ball.

1478
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: No, And so I think that's kind of how I

1479
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: would do it. And it's and again it's it's not great.

1480
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not pretty.

1481
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: But like again, when you can get them in third

1482
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: and long situations, you can blitz them a little bit.

1483
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna hold the ball, he's gonna make confident throws,

1484
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: maybe you get a turnover.

1485
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to blitz him.

1486
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 5: I want to play two man of it because I

1487
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 5: want to be safe, all right. So like the worst

1488
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: thing I think you could do with a with the

1489
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 5: Jamison Williams out there, it's lead some of these guys

1490
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 5: on the island with himself right now, if I'm playing

1491
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: under him and I got safety.

1492
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: Him, now I'm more aggressive one because he ain't. He's

1493
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: not he's not a dynamic route runner. Yeah, Saint Brown's runner,

1494
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: and that's why they move him around and get him him.

1495
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm scared of him more than anything, because

1496
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: he's a chain mover. He's a guy that he gonna

1497
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: find that match up. They're gonna find a way to

1498
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: move him and get him on that that you know,

1499
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: that favorable matchup, and he's going to get into that

1500
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: that zone or he's gonna beat you. When you think

1501
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: he's not gonna run past you, then he gives you

1502
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: a you know, double move and beat you. So that's

1503
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 4: why I asked a question, but I knew offensively two

1504
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: for us is you know, it's to me, I want

1505
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 4: one of them games where like you say, sustaining that ball,

1506
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: and I think this week is a better week that

1507
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 4: we run the ball. You know, this is week where

1508
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: we might consign so that our run game again, because

1509
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: there's a subptible to stopping it. And it's just been

1510
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: evident week in and week out like there.

1511
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 5: And I know they ranked high in pushing, but it's

1512
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 5: because everybody plays from behind.

1513
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: Right, everybody's trying to you know, throw the ball on.

1514
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really rely on game flow. And again to

1515
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: that statistic that Fred just was sighting, right, like they're

1516
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: they're the worst in the NFL, third worst in the

1517
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: NFL when it comes to defending the pass, and their

1518
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: fifth best when it comes to stopping the run. That

1519
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: is one one hundred percent game flow. Yeah, when teams

1520
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: are down, they throw the ball, they see more.

1521
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: Passes, they see less rushes.

1522
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: So when when you watch it, when you watch them

1523
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: try to stop the run. Again, they've got some interesting players.

1524
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: DJ Reader I think is a really good Cambell. Jack

1525
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: Campbell's done a great job. But he's a young player.

1526
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: He's a young player, and you see him have a

1527
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: hard time fitting run sometimes. I agree with Tanner. I

1528
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: think this front they're good and they kind of got

1529
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of Joe Witt Junior because they're so

1530
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: banged up. Joe Junior is like, hey, we're gonna play

1531
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: light boxes. We're gonna stop shopping from throwing the ball.

1532
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't care how you can't. It's hard to stop

1533
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: the run that way. Yeah, and when you watch again,

1534
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: go watch that Buffalo game. They are gashing those dudes.

1535
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: I think you can do something similar, right, be robbed

1536
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: getting downhill and again, if you can maintain some type

1537
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: of efficiency offensively, keep your defense off the field, keep

1538
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: that offense on the sideline.

1539
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: You got a shot, you gotta well.

1540
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 5: I think this is a game for what I call

1541
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: the E equation. The E equation is ERTs and I

1542
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 5: actually like that equation, the equation. I said this before

1543
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 5: the game. They asked me who was gonna be big

1544
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 5: and gage is temp. I was like, it's the E

1545
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 5: equation because these guys being first of all, they playoff.

1546
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: They got so many playoff games under the built.

1547
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 5: And one thing about Eckler Man, he can pass block,

1548
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 5: he could run down.

1549
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: He in the A gap, B gaps.

1550
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 5: He got the gap and he can catch the ball

1551
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 5: at the backfield.

1552
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: You don't know when he comes in.

1553
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 5: Now he's up what we call an alert player when he

1554
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 5: comes in the game and alert that el is in

1555
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 5: the game. So when I alert that Echlan is in

1556
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 5: the game. We turned our attention to him and forget

1557
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: about dmm Brown and he opens up stuff with presence

1558
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 5: of Loan and I think that's that's different.

1559
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and just a little a little quick shout out. Defensively,

1560
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph I think has nine interceptions.

1561
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: Nine yes, so just.

1562
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 5: Certain looking like back there. Yeah, listen, he's just catching.

1563
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 5: They just throwing it up. He literally just back.

1564
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: There and so they do see more past.

1565
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 5: Wrench also is having that he's got five.

1566
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's having a year.

1567
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: So with other kids to who shut down on Jefferson,

1568
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: I think I think Robert Arnold, no, yeah, tearing on

1569
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: no from Alabama.

1570
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first round pick.

1571
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 4: It won, it won Robert one Robertson, the first round pick,

1572
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: haling the hele Barnolds having a great year. But Robinson

1573
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: is the one that knew Jefferson a little bit from

1574
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 4: the childhood.

1575
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, interesting game. It really comes down to game flow.

1576
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: Like they're they're a talented team. They're probably more talented

1577
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: top to bottom than the Washington Commanders are.

1578
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: You can win a game when you're well coached, you're

1579
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: well executed, and that they showed that last week and

1580
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: quite frankly, the the Detroit Lions are just like.

1581
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: A turbo version of the Tampa of Tampa. They're just

1582
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: a little bit turned up. They're a little bit worse defensively,

1583
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: a little bit better offense.

1584
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: So how do you kind of handle that? How do

1585
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: you manage that? All right?

1586
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: I mean I can't wait, man, I can't wait. And

1587
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: it's and it's it's so fun to be excited about

1588
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: a guy like Jayden and a guy in this offense.

1589
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: Is fun to be excited about the fact that we

1590
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 5: in we in the tournament, but we also feel like

1591
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 5: we can win in the tournament.

1592
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: Is a difference. It's a true difference.

1593
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: And nobody would have been like Washington Detroit. We got

1594
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 5: a change, We got a chance to dance with them.

1595
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

1596
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: You gotta play the game. That's exactly right. Right now,

1597
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: it's time for the fan favorite segment.

1598
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: Hell yeah or hell no?

1599
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: That's getting so good, guys, all right.

1600
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: Jayde Daniels is the leading rusher on Washington this weekend

1601
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 1: versus Troit.

1602
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 5: Like I want to say it, because he's been so

1603
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 5: magical these last six games. I think this is the

1604
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 5: game b Rob and Ekla and for State Wheel and yeah,

1605
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I hate to say this, Hell no,

1606
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 5: hell no.

1607
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: I see I see one of those guys. I see

1608
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 4: one of our backs having to day.

1609
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of feels that way like after.

1610
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 4: I think, I think Jadeen the effect is going to

1611
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: affect Yea how they play him, and then when I

1612
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: Beck is gonna be able to you know.

1613
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: And just like it's another like double click, you can

1614
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: regulate the fronts they get in with your personnel, like

1615
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: they match Bay, they matching their base defense to twenty

1616
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: one and twelve personnel. That's an advantage when you know

1617
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: what they're going to be in right, Like, you can

1618
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: do some stuff here, I think schematically, and I think

1619
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: the individual matchups are better.

1620
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: I mentioned also they're like the.

1621
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: Running back versus the D line in the quarterback.

1622
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: And also they play like box is which again all

1623
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: those things kind of feel like the running backs might

1624
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: get back on track this.

1625
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: So, so where are you going?

1626
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, hell no, I think I think I

1627
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: think this feels like a week where the backs again Jane,

1628
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna do Jade's stuff, but the backs

1629
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: are going to be much more effective much probably more

1630
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: like they were versus Tennessee than they were the last

1631
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So I'm really looking forward to that.

1632
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: All right, the defense gets two plus turnovers.

1633
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: You think Jared go gonna go and let it go.

1634
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: He's gonna let it get.

1635
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 1: To soame, so it's not even let it go. He

1636
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: does fumble in the pocket when he gets pressure. He

1637
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot, doesn't get a lot of pressure,

1638
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: but he does fumble in the procket.

1639
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Well, I'm going to say it's

1640
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: too seems like a lot.

1641
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: This is what I'm gonna say.

1642
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 5: I feel like we're gonna win this game, and if

1643
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 5: we're gonna win this game, we gotta get too turnovers.

1644
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: It's kind of let's just say that in order to win,

1645
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 5: you need to and I feel like we're gonna win,

1646
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go, hell yeah this because I feel

1647
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 5: like we're gonna win. And if we're gonna win, maybe

1648
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 5: a fumble recovery, maybe a pick. That's what I just

1649
01:06:59,400 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: feel like.

1650
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to Joe Whittman, he hasn't

1651
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 4: let us down and he's made He's made this defense

1652
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 4: regardless of where where some of our woes was that,

1653
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: you know, in the secondary with our cornerback play, He's

1654
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 4: shown us time and time again, I could put them

1655
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 4: in the best position to win. Yeah, you understand. So

1656
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: I see these guys just being set up. They gonna

1657
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: make it cloudy for him. They know, just like we know.

1658
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 4: Like I just sit there and and and told you

1659
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: he can throw for whatever. But he has a tendency

1660
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: of every now and then turning it out. I got

1661
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: more confidence and my guy being there and and guess

1662
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: what we can say now you see it?

1663
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: Now you don't surprise him. Oh were we right here?

1664
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: We right here waiting for it, I will say. And

1665
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: to win this game, you gotta have it. Yeah you got.

1666
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: Like there's been a couple of times this year, like

1667
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: where the balls bounce off of DB's hands, Like in

1668
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: this game, you.

1669
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: Got to catch that.

1670
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: We got to catch it.

1671
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 4: And so Lulu, I think you're gonna get hit running

1672
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: the chest from one, come on down.

1673
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: With He'll do that though, Like that's the thing about it.

1674
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: It's like he's so confident you just can you catch it?

1675
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: Can you make it happen? So I'm gonna say, hell, yeah,

1676
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: because I want them to win, and I think they

1677
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: got they gotta that's gotta happen. All right, hell ya,

1678
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: all right, this game comes down to the last play. Again,

1679
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if my heart can handle it.

1680
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 5: But what do you us, the Cardiac Commanders, if it happens, Yes,

1681
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 5: Mace Windu has shown.

1682
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: He's gonna use the force on you.

1683
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 5: All I'm saying is this, if it comes down to

1684
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 5: the last play, is our game. Yeah, that's the game

1685
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 5: we play. They play blowout ball. They are not what

1686
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: I call finishing a team. They finish you in the

1687
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 5: third quarter. We're gonna take you all four quarters. If

1688
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 5: this game comes down to the last drive this our

1689
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 5: wheel Well that's where we thrive.

1690
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 3: We thrive. Indeed, like they say, we drive, we thrive.

1691
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm on into my wheelhouse. Yeah, come come to this

1692
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: deep water.

1693
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, Coach Campbell is always talking about

1694
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: taking people to deep water. This team, the Commanders, we've

1695
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: been in deep water.

1696
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: In deep water, we've been there before. Like when Jane

1697
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 3: gets to this you know how the dog pat.

1698
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 5: When they get to that hudder with one minute left

1699
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 5: and get on that knee and say, god, let's go

1700
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:07,959
Speaker 5: finish this day.

1701
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 3: It ain't nobody in the DMV wordy.

1702
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: First of all, you can't take a marine or the

1703
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 4: black ops into the water.

1704
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: That's where we've train, been there, man, and I think

1705
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: it's there is something like Dan Quinn says this all

1706
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: the time when he's like, there's something to going through

1707
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: adversity in tough times because you know what it takes.

1708
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: This team probably battle tested, battle tested in a way

1709
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: that's much different.

1710
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 5: Than Detroit and anybody else. Yes, yeah, most definitely. And

1711
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 5: by the way, Cam Newton did some marine stuff.

1712
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: I've seen you.

1713
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: I liked it. I liked the see and stuff I

1714
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: saw it.

1715
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 2: He's a big dude, that Cam is huge.

1716
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: He's a huge huge.

1717
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 4: I'm in the airport, you know how like you normally

1718
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 4: see you guys from the NFL, and you feel like

1719
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 4: it's just we're in a fraternity.

1720
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 3: So even if I don't know you personally, I.

1721
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: Should I always up. He was so big. I was

1722
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: stuck on how big he was. I've got to say,

1723
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 4: what's uping? I want mom, like, God, damn you is

1724
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: human not huge?

1725
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, imagine him damning on you.

1726
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: Why he jump on this pile and in on just man, listen,

1727
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: why them damn linebackers?

1728
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: Was the hen When I was in Atlanta.

1729
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: He ran off the sideline and I was standing right

1730
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: there and you're kind of like you're in you kind

1731
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: of catch them, you know, they're coming up.

1732
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: And I was like a quarterback, You're looking at you

1733
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 2: and I and you're like, oh.

1734
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: Like no, it's not the first time I seen Mega Trunk. No, dude,

1735
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: oh listen, tips I ever saw him. I was like, what, no,

1736
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 3: because you can watch somebody. And then we walked on

1737
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 3: the field and I was just I kept looking up

1738
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: like what is this? What is this? Like you want

1739
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: me to stop here? It's not gonna happen, not gonna

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Speaker 3: be able to know it.

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Speaker 2: It's like the first time I met U who sick

1742
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: out already, like Julio Jones in Atlanta. Yeah, I was

1743
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: just like, god, man, you are so bid, ain't you?

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 3: Like?

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: Hey?

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 5: Man?

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: Like so it's so for there's something that you do

1748
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: when you're doing draft stuff, you know. I mean, you're

1749
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: watching all these different prospects and you see in person,

1750
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: and there's something that's gonna sound weird, but there's something

1751
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: to the width and the height of an NFL back.

1752
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's a different caliber of human beings. These

1753
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: people were talking about definitely fit that.

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 5: No, they are odd of teeth like Brandon Jacobs. See

1755
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 5: that's what you do when you're playing Man and you like,

1756
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 5: I'm finna make a player, I make Brandon Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, So I think that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for today's show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for tuning in. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You like and subscriber, ever, get your podcasts. Amen.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we get to do one more of these talking

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Speaker 1: about a player. Two more, let's go more. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for today's show.