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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: DAM Pure Normal podcast Network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome

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Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sanders Champlain. For almost twenty

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Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the

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Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss

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Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have

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Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife Today, I'm so happy to introduce you

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Speaker 1: to my friend Claudia Watt's Edge. She had a near

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Speaker 1: death experience and for the past forty years has been

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Speaker 1: researching spirituality and the afterlife. She is the author of

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Speaker 1: two volumes of the award winning books titled Gifts from

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Speaker 1: the Edge, and now she has a new book, and

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Speaker 1: what she's done is she's compiled stories afterlife stories from

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Speaker 1: many amazing authors and the new book is called We

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Speaker 1: Touched Heaven. You can find out more about Claudia at

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Speaker 1: claudia edge dot com. Claudia A big, warm welcome to

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife. Ah, thank you and what a

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Speaker 1: great introduction. I even was interested in me. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: funny that happens when I get interviewed too. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: so great to reconnect with you, it really is. Would

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Speaker 1: you start off by telling us about you and I

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Speaker 1: know you had a near death experience, and yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you just hear your story, we'd love to hear. Sure.

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Speaker 1: My near death experience was in nineteen four, so some

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Speaker 1: thirty five years ago, I bled to death. I was

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Speaker 1: giving birth and I had an intuition to go to

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Speaker 1: long when I started to bleed out. It was like

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Speaker 1: out to save her. They could not find heartbeat on

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Speaker 1: and I say her, I didn't know at the time

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Speaker 1: it was her, but they couldn't find a heartbeat, and

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Speaker 1: so I was subjected to just being held down and

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Speaker 1: I just wanted my baby saved. Through that we uh,

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Speaker 1: we both perished. I'll address it right now, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: perished in the womb. And so questions have been posed

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Speaker 1: if we had a shared near death experience, or if

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Speaker 1: my body, I knew I was dead. And as soon

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Speaker 1: this this innocent little baby, it was so gruesome, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted out of there. So I did a little

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Speaker 1: darkness or blackness, but it was beautiful. It was beautiful

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Speaker 1: people were aware of the horrendous way that my daughter

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Speaker 1: came into the world, and she she was revived along

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Speaker 1: you'd get to it. It's wonderful. She's beautiful and perfect

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Speaker 1: They had told my doctor that I was going to

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Speaker 1: alone an emergency c section. So excuse my little cough.

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Speaker 1: I actually had COVID. I've had it twice now, and

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Speaker 1: excuse me. So this wonderful experience I kept pushed down

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Speaker 1: and I was reading all kinds of other near death

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Speaker 1: where was my beautiful experience? It was beautiful, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that I could talk about or share

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Speaker 1: will add I asked, I meditated and asked again, and

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going, wow, come, why why am I

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Speaker 1: I have visions, I've been given a I'm not an

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Speaker 1: expert in any area, but I've been able to experience

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Speaker 1: so that when I'm having one of these dreams, um,

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Speaker 1: you're fervent in your ask, I think you and your

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Speaker 1: what you really want. Claudia, we have to take a

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Speaker 1: quick break, and when we come back, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Samplain, and

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Speaker 1: I'm here with the great Claudia Edge. Now, Claudia, you

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Speaker 1: have Gifts from the Edge. Volume one and Volume two

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Speaker 1: was your first books. I'd like to talk a little

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00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: bit about what those are and then get into some

438
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: of the stories about why you believe in the afterlife.

439
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: So that was about Gifts from the Edge. Gifts from

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00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: the Edge. After having these lucid dreams, I would get

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Speaker 1: up and journal them, and I had a whole wall

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00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: full of journals and I actually did in dream have

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00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: a guide and I say a because he was kind

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00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: of more of a man shape than what we had

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00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. But pushy a computer into my lap

446
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: and say it's time and I'm kind of like time

447
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: time for what? Oh no, because this is just not

448
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: was not my forte But I thought, you know what,

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00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: I have journals, and I have wonderful stories collected in

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: these journals. The first one is Stories of the Other Side,

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00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and it was basically talking about communication afterlife, communication that

452
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: I had with my mother and my sister as I

453
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: spent many months but at the foot of the bed

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00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: of my mom in her illness. We had some really

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Speaker 1: great adventures together. And those dreams are really vivid and

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00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: they're very heartwarming. Um, they said before your mom passed

457
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: after some of the stories were before and then most

458
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: of them are after. Wow, So you'd have these lucid

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00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: type dreams that you're with your mom. Was your mom

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00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: young and healthy? And well was she older? You know

461
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: she was older? She well she was six when she passed,

462
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: but she had more energy than anyone in the family.

463
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: We used to call her that the energizer bunny. And

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: I used to go home. You know, I'm on the

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Speaker 1: couch and she's running around the house. I'm like, how

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00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: do you do this? But she was ready to go.

467
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: She you know, you felt like she had done what

468
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: she wanted to accomplish or whatnot. And and uh, it

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00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: was hard to let her go. You know, that's the

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Speaker 1: mom stuff. And so it's not all just about moms.

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Speaker 1: There are some really wonderful stories in there, and my

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Speaker 1: learning and being able to share with the audience how

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Speaker 1: to connect with your own guide and you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of my awakening and steps that I took to awaken.

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Speaker 1: So the first book is My Baby, you know it.

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00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: The second book is Gifts from the Edge Lessons from

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Speaker 1: the Other Side. And these were direct dreams that I

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00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: was receiving from Spirit School, picking the body, and the

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00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: questions of how come we are here? What what are

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00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: we supposed to do when we're here? Why are we here?

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Speaker 1: You know? All those things? You know, is there a God?

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Speaker 1: All of those things that are posed? And I was

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00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: getting some great, great lessons on the other side in

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Speaker 1: Spirit School, and so I would wake up and write

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Speaker 1: those down and and so they're they're both me both

486
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: you'll and you'll find my near death experience, the long version,

487
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: the gory version, and also a synopsis of the ten

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00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: things that I learned when I died evidence to back

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Speaker 1: those up. So those are those are my babies. And

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00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: then when I was sitting in the tub one day,

491
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, you put the lavender and the bubbles in

492
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: and relax, I knew that I was being told about

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Speaker 1: a third book, and I went, are you guys crazy?

494
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: A third book? Yeah? And that was kind of like, now, wait,

495
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. It was to be a compilation

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00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: of all of the stories that I've collected over the years.

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: When I'm in a Facebook group or something and someone

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Speaker 1: posts a beautiful story, you know, of something of the

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00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: other side or whatnot that touches me, I will grab it,

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: snapshot it, and throw it in a file and just

501
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: to reread later or whatever. And it was kind of like,

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00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: you know that other file you've got full of those stories, Well,

503
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: guess what, that's what you're going to write the book about.

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00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: And I thought, well, that's easy, because I've already got

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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: all the stories. You know. It was, um, it was

506
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: about as easy as hurting cats. But when you got

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00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: a forty seven different contributors trying to pull those into

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00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: a timeline and everything. But we put together a book

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00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: called We Touched Heaven and it is a global compilation

510
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: that is everywhere from New Zealand, Canada, England, Africa. I can't,

511
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: I can't think I'm at a loss. Okay, I'm sure.

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: And then they're all stories of of of of watts

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: like um, you know, spiritual transformation. It's not all your

514
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: death experiences. You know. We have a former atheist doctor,

515
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Lottie Valentine Um. When she died, she was told that

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: she needed to go to medical school and she was

517
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: enrolled within like a week. Um. They wanted she was

518
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: supposed to become a nature pathic doctor. And you know,

519
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: so she's like, okay, you know when you hear these things,

520
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: when they come into your into your brain and you

521
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: and you hear them, you know it's not your voice.

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00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's not your thought. Um, you just kind

523
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: of go, okay, I'll write my third book, or I'll

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00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: go to med school or whatnot. Some of the contributors

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00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: are besides medical doctors, pH d s and NASA scientists

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00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: and a marine biologist and our own Sander champlain Um

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00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: contributed And I call it kind of the stand up

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00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: the backbone of the book as your story, Sandra, and

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00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I feel like someone who openly admits that they had

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00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: a fear of death and completely conquered it by doing

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: not turning that into your story be you know, kind

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00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: of your handle. But let's let's move through it. What

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00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: are my fears, Let's find out why, and let's overcome it.

534
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: And that was one of the other things that was

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00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: impressed upon me to kind of mention today is you

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00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are afraid of something in

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00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: their lives, you know, spiders, or I had a girlfriend

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00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: whose mother could not make right turns in her car,

539
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean left turns in her car. She had to

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00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: drive right turn, right turn, right turn until we eventually

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00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: got to our destination. It was Craig going, what's wrong

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00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: with your mom? But heights or whatnot? It becomes your story.

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00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, what would we be a lot of these

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00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: fears come from trauma, and it's like, what would we

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Who would we be if we didn't hang on to

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00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: that story of that trauma. You know, it puts you

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00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: mid center in a lot of conversations, and so you

548
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: hang onto it. You know, you're the you're the star

549
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: of being afraid of heights, and so you keep it

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00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: rather than um. You know, my father was killed when

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00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I was sixteen in a horrific accident falling from the

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00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: university sports arena that was about a hundred and fifty

553
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: feet down, and it made me go, oh, I'm going

554
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: to be afraid of heights, you know, and you almost

555
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: can talk yourself into it. But I stood at that

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00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: place and other places where I would kind of just

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: lean over the rail just a tiny bit to look down,

558
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: and you know, you can get that tingling in your

559
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: fingers and toes and whatnot, and go, it's your body going.

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00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's a scary thing. You don't exactly

561
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: want to lean out here too much further. But I

562
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: decided not to take it on and I did by

563
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 1: I jumped out of an airplane. You know, you did,

564
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I wanted to over I wanted

565
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that that was not going to become

566
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: a fear, and I did jump out of an airplane

567
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: and to Claudia. As we're going on, because this show

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00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: goes by super duper pupper quick, can you tell some

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Speaker 1: of your favorite stories of why you believe in the

570
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: afterlife or maybe stories that people have contributed in the book.

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00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: You bet well one of the ones. As as we're

572
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: kind of talking about Dad's Um, I did have a

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: dream of my father. It was a great dream because

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00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: I was back in high school. Right here, I am

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Speaker 1: in my sixties and approaching seventies, but I dreamed of

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00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: being a teenager again. Fun, fun, fun. I was with

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00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: friends and having a great time, and one of the

578
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: friends came over. He had been working all day and

579
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: had earned by doing a lot of yard work. He

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00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: had earned a telescope. Now, my father passed in nineteen

581
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: ext nine, and telescopes, um, you know, were for you know,

582
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: military and Nassau and everything else that's your your average

583
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: homeowner didn't have their own telescopes then. But this was

584
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: really a special one. And he knew it was partly broken,

585
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: but he knew how that he could fix it, and

586
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: he left it in the front yard as we played

587
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: and ran and danced and whatever in the backyard, and

588
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: my father appeared, came out of the house. Now, this

589
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: is the father that had passed, and so when I

590
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: saw him, I was like, oh, my goodness, my dad.

591
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: And but the friend looked at him because he was

592
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: bent over his telescope doing some work on and the

593
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: friends says, you know, hey, I already know that you

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00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: know this. This thing needs a kilometer alignment, and you know,

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00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: it was like, that is not in my vernacular, right

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: He turned around and said, well, it also needs a

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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Poncet platform support. When I woke up, I looked up

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00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: these words because I'd never heard of the before. They

599
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: were in and looking into telescope, you can you can

600
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: look at Poncet platform support or the Klameter alignment and

601
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: find their definition there. And I thought, oh my goodness,

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00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: this is one of these stories that I can assure

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00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: that when we get these um, I just lost the term.

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00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: Can you think of it, Sander? When when it's it's

605
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of a proof of it it happening. And I

606
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: should have written it down, because I do lose words.

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00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Love you, it's evidential evidence. This this is, this dream

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: is something more than just a dream. And to finish

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00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: the dream, what I was shown is a box full

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00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: of different lenses um that could be used to look

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00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: from and I would. I was so excited that my father,

612
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: who had passed was there in front of me. It

613
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: was wonderful to see him again, and I would hold

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00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: up these lenses and as I it, I couldn't see

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00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: him in the lens, and I would lean out and

616
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: look for him again, and he would be He'd still

617
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: be there, and there was a whole ring of them.

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00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: So I went through ten or twelve different lenses, and

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00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: I never saw him through that lens. But when I

620
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: stopped looking through the lens, I could see him. And

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Speaker 1: he started to giggle at me, and he said, you know,

622
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: just because you don't see me doesn't mean I'm not here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's the perfect segue now to our going into our

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00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: last break. That's a beautiful story. He gave me goose bumps.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna go into our next break,

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Speaker 1: and we've got more to talk about. Well, my goodness.

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Speaker 1: to Coast a M dot com. That's Coast to coast

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Speaker 1: al dot com. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain and we're with a beautiful, generous and

648
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Speaker 1: loving Claudia Watt's Edge, author of Gifts from the Edge,

649
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: and she compiled the most beautiful book called We Touched Heaven. Claudia,

650
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: let's talk more about We Touched Heaven. Besides near death experiences,

651
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: which are phenomenal, I don't want to overstep them there, phenomenal,

652
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: what other kind of people did you get stories from

653
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: for the book? Do you know, I'm I'm flipping through

654
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: the book now and it is one of my favorite topics.

655
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I have so many beautiful stories in here. I think

656
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Speaker 1: one of my favorites because we've talked a little bit

657
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: about indies and that was spiritual transformative experiences, and one

658
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: of them was from a hunter. Now, this guy goes

659
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Speaker 1: out hunting for the love of the outdoors and being

660
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: in nature and whatnot. And his description has you right there.

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00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. But what a lot of people have a

662
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: problem with hunting, right, killing an animal, but when it's

663
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: done in both helping the forest. You know, if if

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Speaker 1: they become too overrun, they're plagued with disease and starvation,

665
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: which would be a horrible way for them to go

666
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: as well. Or you can have these gentlemen go out

667
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: and and bring food in for their family. So he's

668
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: really careful with the reason why he hunts, and I

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00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: appreciated that information. And he was with his son in

670
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: law and he was trying to teach him how to

671
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: be that kind of responsible hunt her and they had

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00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: shot at and had injured Oh is it a buck

673
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: orps something? I can't think of it right now, but

674
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: they knew it was injured and the gun the sculp

675
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: had turned and he knew it was not a good shot,

676
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: and this animal was suffering, and they were working really

677
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Speaker 1: really hard to find this animal in the woods um

678
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Speaker 1: so that it would not suffer. And when he came

679
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: upon it, they shared an eye to eye spiritual experience

680
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: that is just it'll just make you cry. It was

681
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: like the animal and the hunter switched places and he

682
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: could see the and feel the animal's fear and whatnot,

683
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: but the animal could feel the you know, what the

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Speaker 1: hunter's intent and why and what what his body would

685
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: serve to his family, and that it was he says,

686
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: it was like they switched spirits and it changed him forever.

687
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Speaker 1: So that to me was it was really an enlightening story,

688
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: absolutely teaching you compassion and yeah, empathy and all that.

689
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Speaker 1: But can I ask you, Claudia, are there any stories

690
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Speaker 1: in there of deathbed visitations? You know, those moments just

691
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Speaker 1: before somebody passes and or maybe not in the book,

692
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Speaker 1: but what do you know about those in your years

693
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: of investigating the afterlife? Well, you know, in my years

694
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: of investigating I I also went and became a hospice volunteer.

695
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what that was like. Um, it

696
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: was I don't want to say morbid curiosity, but it

697
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: did take me there, and I learned so much at

698
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: that side of someone dying and how fear leaves. The

699
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: fear is mostly for the I mean they are rare cases,

700
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: but fear and sadness and that are mostly for the

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00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: rest of the family. You know, the patient is is

702
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: okay with it generally by the time they get there.

703
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: In those last few days and hours, so many patients

704
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: are just they want to make sure that the family

705
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: is okay, but they're looking forward to and have generally

706
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: had um dreams or kind of those half in calf,

707
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: half out moments of the other side. You like, you've

708
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: got a foot in both worlds, and you you know,

709
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: you can see your aunt Mary or something in the

710
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: room and it's kind of like, hey, you see her,

711
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: She's right there, you know. And it's filled with so

712
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: many beautiful stories like that one that I shared in

713
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: the book. As I was at the bedside of my

714
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: mom and at one point she it was like she

715
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: was not getting better, but she was not getting worse.

716
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Speaker 1: And we were there for a long time and one

717
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: night I had a dream that well, and and it

718
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: was her lung she had a problem with. And so

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Speaker 1: she kept a tissue box on the bed. It was

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Speaker 1: wrapped in with her left hand. She held onto that

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Speaker 1: tissue box um like it was, you know, she was

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Speaker 1: a soldier with that being her her guard, you know.

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Speaker 1: And she would reach in for that tissue, cough, cough,

724
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Speaker 1: reach in for the tissue, cough again, and then that

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Speaker 1: tissue was dropped to the side of the bed to

726
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Speaker 1: be swept up later for the garbage. And she did

727
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Speaker 1: that for a couple of months. As I was with her,

728
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: I knew those sounds. And I was laying there half

729
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: awake and asleep and hearing her cough. I had a

730
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: visual of that where the tissue that was being dropped

731
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Speaker 1: off the side of the bed rose towards the ceiling

732
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: and upwards, and I knew it was a sign for

733
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Speaker 1: me that my mom was getting ready to leave that

734
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Speaker 1: box that contained her body, that her body, that contained

735
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: her soul was getting ready to lift. And when I

736
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Speaker 1: told people that she was going to pass that day,

737
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: they didn't believe me because it had been months of

738
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Speaker 1: the same thing, and she seemed she seemed the same.

739
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Speaker 1: But I trusted what I saw in my visual and

740
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: she passed at four o'clock that afternoon. So it was

741
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: definitely a message for me. And so when we were

742
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: talking earlier about our dreams, you know, if I could

743
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: have um just held that to myself, you know, and thought, well,

744
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: maybe she won't and you know what, what a horrible

745
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: thing to be making bets on, you know kind of thing.

746
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Speaker 1: I don't mean it in that form, but I trusted.

747
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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that as I pulled

748
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Speaker 1: out and paid attention to what my guide was showing

749
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Speaker 1: me in my dreams, or the fact that the other

750
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: side knew that I was writing my dreams down, that

751
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: I was getting more and more of them. Because when

752
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: you act on something, they on the other side go, oh,

753
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: she's getting it. She's getting it. You know, if you

754
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: find that penny on the driveway that you haven't had

755
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: your purse out on the driveway, but suddenly there's a

756
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: penny there and you go, oh, I've got a penny

757
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: for mom. It may or may not be, but what

758
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: it certainly is an opening for the other side to

759
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: perhaps drop a couple more because there's been a connection there.

760
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: And that's what the universe looks for is that connection.

761
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: So sometimes what is that saying? You know, you if

762
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you want to, you know, you think about it and

763
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: you make it happen until it actually does start happening,

764
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: or something you know, you trust and it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Take it till you make it, I guess it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Grief is the worst thing I think any human being

767
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: will ever face. And one thing I say often we

768
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: do a free Sunday gathering every Sunday online. Part of

769
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: it is inspiration and music, a little prayer, a little

770
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: healing segment, but we always have a medium or to

771
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: do a medium demonstration on the people that show up

772
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: in our zoom audience, and so we've reconnected hundreds and

773
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of people. It's really beautiful. Oh it's good.

774
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: It's good. But why I'm saying this is not everybody

775
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: gets a reading. We could have three hundred people there

776
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: and there's you know, four to six people that get

777
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: the readings. But the thing is you get a little

778
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: taste that our loved ones are around us, that they're

779
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: cheering us on. And one of the things I say,

780
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: when you say, fake it till you make it, kind

781
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: of thing is have a picture of your loved one

782
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: that's healthy. Well, I don't know how you remember them.

783
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Keep talking to them. When somebody dies. It's so often

784
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: that I mean, it's autopilot that we grieve. But it's

785
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: also often that we don't think that we can still

786
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: communicate with them. They do show up in our dreams,

787
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: they do leave us signs, But if you're talking to them,

788
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: lie there there now. I do believe people have things

789
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: to do on the other side once they get there,

790
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: but they're only a thought away. But keep talking to them,

791
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: ask for those signs, and pay attention to what's happening

792
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: around you, because you might be surprised. But once they

793
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: know the door is open and you're looking to communicate

794
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: as much as they are, things can start happening. You

795
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: are so right on their girl, right on. Anybody who

796
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: wants to come to the Sunday gathering. By the way,

797
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: go to we Don't Die dot com. That's my home base.

798
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: You can get a free copy of my book and

799
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: PDF form and all kinds of great things there. But

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00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: up at the top of the page it'll say Sunday

801
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: gathering and so you can click on the link for

802
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: the next one and you can register for that. So, Claudia,

803
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: we have just a minute or two left here. What

804
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: closing thoughts you want to share or any advice you

805
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: want to give? Well, I did want to read a

806
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: couple of the chapter headings on this book because we

807
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't get quite into a lot of that. One of

808
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: the chapters outside of Time Transcending Time, Visiting a Parallel Universe,

809
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: the day I stood at Heaven's door of the other

810
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Let's see, even in death, he was still worried about

811
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: his dry cleaning. There there's fun and humor and we

812
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: touch on um everything from suicides to miscarriage to a

813
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: death of a child. Even talking to a mortician. There

814
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: is a lot of advice and stories of these gap

815
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: in care of the military and medical field. You know,

816
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: I was lucky that someone you know, wanted to know

817
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: about my death, because most of the time, it's like,

818
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: you know, no one wants to even talk about it

819
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: or admit that an accident or something happened in in

820
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: care or this poor guy from the military who's had

821
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: a helicopter crash and is laying there and and no

822
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: one wants to, you know, talk about where he's been.

823
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's he'll end up in the brig or

824
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, something terrible, be marked as you know, a looney.

825
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: So I found that to just touch on so many

826
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: different subjects. Um that allowed me to do that, and

827
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: so that's one of the most prideful things in the

828
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: book that I it's called We Touched Heaven and Look

829
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: into It. I also wanted to give a note of

830
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: how if anyone wanted to talk or send me a story,

831
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: I accept stories at stories at Claudia edge dot com

832
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: or my website at Claudia edge dot com and we

833
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: can converse and talk about your spiritual experiences and whatnot.

834
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Speaker 1: I thank you all for being here and listening. Claudia,

835
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: thank you very much. It's really nice to reconnect with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your hard work. You are an award

837
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: winning author. You've got beautiful books. And thank you from

838
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: all of us for compiling so many stories and We

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Speaker 1: Touched Heaven, and to our listeners, we thank you for

840
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: being here. There are so many episodes now and we're

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00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: so grateful you're on this journey with us. I'm Sandras

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00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Champlain and you've been listening to Shades of the Afterlife

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Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM

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Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast Network. And if you like this episode of

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Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife, wait until you hear the next one.

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