WEBVTT - Braves Trade Deadline Preview with Robert Murray 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.119 Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory podcast. My 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.320 name is Jan Coleman. Hope where you are and wherever 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.840 you are listening, you are having a great week. We 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.200 are coming up. It is now July, and of course 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.080 what that means when it comes to the baseball season 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.080 is basically it's one of the you know a few 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.600 times where it feels like Christmas wherever you are because 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.680 the trade deadline is literally a month away and we 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.879 have with us. Cannot thank him enough for being with us. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.239 One of the best when it comes to baseball, inside 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.640 news and covering all things baseball. Robert Murray, a fan 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.479 sided in Foul Territory. He was with us in the 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.160 off season. Gracious enough to join us again, Robert. Pleasure 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:55.880 to have you again, sir. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:57.920 No, it's good to be here with you. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.320 I gotta apologize to everybody last time while I was 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:01.960 on the show, I got your hopes up for a picture. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.360 Did not have a mapping. Sean gave me flag for 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:05.240 him before the show. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.720 I want to wear it because I never want to 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.880 mislead you guys, so again I'm wearing it. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.399 But good to be here again with you boys. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.560 Absolutely nothing on you that's Hey, the purpose of that, 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.360 the reason that that did not occur, just gives us 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.160 more content to talk about now, and that's what we're 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.200 going to dive into as we mix it up, engineered 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:31.959 by fasten All. So of course, the quote unquote Flack 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.000 was all in good fun, because Robert, you're one of 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.080 the most trusted sources when it comes to keeping us 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.399 at the general public Braves country in general, you know, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.759 up to date on what's going on, and so that's 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.280 what we're going to get into. But first let's kind 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.759 of get your assessment, you know, of where the Braves are. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.400 The race, of course, had a wonderful start to the 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.480 season April and may came into June. They've kind of 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.080 fallen flat, you know, over the past month. But what 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.880 is clearly there is that their goal to contend for 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.480 a World Series has not changed and the need for 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.320 them to be active with not only maybe one major move, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.960 but multiple major moves at the trade deadline, it's become 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.359 even more of a necessity. What are your general assessments 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.680 of the Braves as we're month out from the trade deadline, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.480 as we kind of look and see what they potentially 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.600 could do to improve this club. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.720 Yeah, this is a team that is tremendously talented overall. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.000 Obviously you have some high end stars who are also 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.280 sideline at the same time too, but they've also had 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.440 some really nice value editions in the offseason. Marisio Dubon 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.720 exceeded expectations. Dona Smith has been a really nice ad there. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.880 But they started super strong and it's come back down 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.000 to earths. They went on a big skid to end 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.240 this past month and it's got a lot of people 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.880 wondering exactly what does this outlook like for this team 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.000 going forward? And I'm still optimistic about it. Like you 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.519 have Ronald the Counya Junior probably coming back right after 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.280 the All Star Game. You have Drake Baldwin who is 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.359 probably like you got to imagine, he's going to get 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.960 better as he gets as he's working through some kinks here. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.160 And you also, like the one question, the big question 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.520 that I have here is what exactly do you have 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.160 an Austin Riley at this point, because his struggles are 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.960 well documented. They signed into that big two hundred plus 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.600 million dollars contract. Can he get back to that prime 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.560 form that he was in or what? But overall, I'm 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.440 still optimistic about this team. I think anthoposs is going 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.840 to be very aggressive at the deadline here, and it 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.359 is going to be I think Atlanta's for sure one 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.400 of the top teams to wash here because you look 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.880 across baseball, obviously the Dodgers of the Dodgers, the Phillies 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.359 are surging, the Brewers are still being the Brewers somehow. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.000 In the American League, you don't have any team that's 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.000 necessarily running away with it. This is this championship is 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.240 there for the taking, and I think these gms have 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.960 to be super aggressive, and I expect Anthoppolos. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.720 To be one. So it kind of, you know, in 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.000 honor of our segment here mixing it up. You're kind 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.280 of getting the sense of what, you know what the 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.080 very least, it just seems out of necessity and thoughtless 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.400 is going to mix it up this year. You know, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.640 he's kind of being, you know, held back a bit 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.480 on making those major moves in season like he did 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.840 when he was in Toronto. But it certainly seems like 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.200 many factors this year point two him going out making 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.800 maybe not one, but even two highly significant moves. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.000 Yeah, and I don't know, like if it'll end up 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.240 being Enterrek school type because if he makes a big move, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.840 I would expect it tend to be in somebody who's controllable, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.200 And if you can get somebody who's controllable, I think 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.560 that would be something that makes a whole lot of 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.159 sense for Atlanta. But I do expect Anthopolis to be 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.880 going through a bunch of different aisles here, whether it's 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.360 the pitching side, whether it's the offense. I expect him 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.800 to be very versatile with what he's trying to do 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.680 here and if he has Like the thing though here 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.400 with Anthopolis is he's not going to just make a 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.440 move just to make a move. It has to make sense, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.760 and in previous years, it's been getting a Jock Peterson type, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.320 it's been getting some different guys of the deadline who 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.320 aren't necessarily like the most flashy names, and it's really 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:48.039 worked for him. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:52.320 So I give I trust Anthopolis here. I think this offseason. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.719 Reignited some of that fan base has trusted him because 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.640 in previous years with them missing the postseason, that obviously 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:59.680 frustrated a lot of people. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:00.960 But I think think he's the right got to get 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.320 this thing done, and I'd. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.160 Expect him to make at least some bigger additions, But 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.719 I don't know if it's going to necessarily be like 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.080 that big splash byit it means. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.159 So let's talk about Scooble for a second, Robert, because 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.600 that's the name. Obviously every Braves fan a lot, I mean, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.800 not just Brace fans, fans all over baseball. The first 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.880 question I want to ask you is this, because will 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.280 the Braves trade for three schoobl really doesn't matter unless 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.120 the Detroit Tigers decide to move him. They're right on 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.320 the edge. I think they're like six games back of 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.200 the wild Card. Do you think Detroit is gonna sell? 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.560 First of all, I guess the most important question, and 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.480 if so, just what you've heard, what you know? 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:42.160 What are the odds? 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.680 Do you think the Braves would be one of the 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.320 teams that you know could potentially make that deal. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.480 I think that the Tigers really want to compete, which 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.239 is why schoobl trade is not imminent. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.720 They're going to try to hold this thing out as 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.000 long as they can before they have to make that determination. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.680 And I think in the ideal world for that, they'd 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.359 be in a position where they compete, where they have 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.920 at least one more World Series run with School before 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.080 it becomes a free agent and before it ends up 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.880 leieving Detroit, because that would be stunned if he ends 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.400 up returning there. But as far as the Braves go, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.520 I do think that there'll be one of the teams 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.359 that checks in, that tries to potentially get something, or 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.039 that tries to be like actually like firmly involved. But again, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.279 like as I said, I expect the Braves to try 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.560 to if they I expect them to be involved, but 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.640 I also expect them if they can add somebody who's controllable. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.560 I think that'd be something that would be really smart 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.679 for them, just so they have some long term certainty, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.080 but also too, like if you have the chance of 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.880 adding schoobl and the value is right, and yeah, I 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.520 get used to frigient at the end of the year. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.920 That maximizes the World Series chances. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.839 Which is why I think the Dodgers, the Braves, the Rays, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.080 the Brewers, like all these different teams makes sense for 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.280 School in the end. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.560 Do I think the Tigers sell. I think they should. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.239 I don't know if this is necessarily a World Series 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.600 caliber team, which is like we saw the Angels really 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.760 regret not trading Shoho Tani and they ended up missing on. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.080 In a Gally Junior Caman Arrow. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.640 I don't I don't expect the Tigers to get somebody 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.520 like that return are a prospect of that caliber. But 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.400 that being said, they should be getting a ton in return, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.280 and there's gonna be no shortage of teams. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:15.320 The need to be after school. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.000 Another positive narrative, Robert, than about the Braves. And I'm 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.480 not sure as to what your extend is as far 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.960 as covering the minor leagues and things like that, but 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.760 the Braves seem to be one of the more notable 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.200 emerging systems in baseball this year. And they also of 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.080 course have a bit more you know, quality path to 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.240 add to that as well in the draft. So it 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.360 seems like that now more this year than in previous years. 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.920 The Braves. Yeah, if they wind up going after schoobl 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.680 and trying to match up with the Brewers or the Dodgers, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.400 okay that those systems may have a bit more. But 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.280 the Braves, I think this year you could uh more 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.160 confidently say they can pay the price for anybody that 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.760 they want to get if they truly want to go 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.840 after that guy. You can say that more this year 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.040 than you have years in the past. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.720 No, totally, which is why I don't think anybody should 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:00.720 be off. It's for the Braves. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.960 Whether it's a Redebt Meers or it's a Sonny Gray 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.040 or Seth Lugo and Michael Waka or whoever else in 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.920 the market, they can go out and get anybody who 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.480 they really want to. But also, like we've seen the 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.400 Braves like with that farm system, like it's definitely emerging here. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.200 But look at their history with calling up these prospects 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.360 that have been in the minor leagues for them, been 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.200 super successful, and then they ended up extending those guys 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.600 to super like team friendly contracts at least for the 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.880 most part. That's another element of this I think that 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.640 we got to have in consideration too, is just the 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.360 potential for I mean obviously high end play, but the 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.400 ability to get them to team friendly contracts. I think 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.040 that's something that would like I have in the back 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.880 of my mind always when it comes to the Braves 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.640 and their farm system here for sure, But like you 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.560 all the pictures that I mentioned there, I expect the 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.400 Braves to check in on a bunch of them. I'm 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.840 sure I missed a couple when I went through that list, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:56.720 and we're gonna be hearing the Braves connected to so 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.719 many different pictures, and. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.319 I would be again, I'm playing a day. 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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:29.840 or prevent any disease. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.720 So, Robert, you must have been reading my mind, you know, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.120 in that first segment when you mentioned the Sonny Grays 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.360 as well as the Michael Wakas as well as the 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:44.560 Seth logos, because those pictures that you mentioned probably are 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.520 not on the same tier, you know as a tart 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.600 school obviously, but they do have two factors that I 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.920 think make them, you know, more likely targets for the Braves. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.880 I know Sonny Gray is I believe he has either 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.800 a player option or some type of team option, maybe 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.760 a mutual option for next year. But each of those 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:05.320 pictures can be controlled next year. Waka and Seth Lugo 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.640 for sure can be because of their contract. And let's 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.000 be honest, for many years many around baseball probably have 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.960 thought that Sonny Gray was a logical fit with the Braves, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.160 so if he came to us, he likely could sign 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.800 an extension. I think that that is more of the 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.400 tier that the Braves look at. Plus also you have 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.840 to look at the Red Sox and the Royals being 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.000 two of the teams right now that make the most 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.960 sense to commit to be in sellers as soon as possible. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.520 No, totally, and obviously the Braves and the Red Sox 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.319 have a history of working trades together where they did 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:36.200 the Chris Saale deal. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.199 There's history there. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.040 But also like the fact that these guys are controllable, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.800 I think makes a ton of sense here. And Sonny 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.640 and Gray's got the mutual option and those are always declined, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.120 so like you got to have that. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.280 In the back of your mind there. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.920 But I think if you look at the Royals, they 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.120 would make a ton of sense as a potential trade 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.160 partner here because Seth Lugo is still, in my eyes, 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.040 one of the most underrated pitchers in ball. And last year, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.640 I remember there was a bunch of teams that were 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.839 that were ready for him, Like there was a moment 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.040 where I thought he was going to get traded. Then 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.880 I was like, Okay, he's actually gonna get extended, and 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.679 then it was traded, and then all of a sudden 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.440 he signed the extension. Like it was super back and 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.840 forth and the market was really big for him. And 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.080 I think the Braves would make a ton of sense there. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.000 He is somebody who would be able to start a 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.760 playoff game for them, and I think that's something that'd 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.319 be important for Atlanta, but also so many other teams 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.200 is they want a guy who they can depend on 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.120 in those kind of games. So Lugo, he's obviously signed 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.720 long term, He's got a relatively affordable contract. I remember 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.520 last year there was like he obviously got a lot 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.559 of money, but I talked to some other people who 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.760 were like, Okay, yeah, still it's a lot, but it's 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.559 it's affordable to take on for sure. And walk is 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.400 still super underrated. He's not going to pitch deep into 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.040 most games for you, but he's dependable, he's a veteran, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.320 he's controllable. I like it, So I think he would 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.240 be that both of those guys would be a great fit. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.480 The Royals at this point do not want to sell, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.240 but I think they have to just wake up. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.959 And smell the coffee at some point, because this is. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.439 Just a team that that feels like they should sell 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.439 and take it vant of what should be a seller's market. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.880 So of course that would maybe go ahead. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:06.960 No, you're fine. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.360 So on top of that, on top of the guys 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.240 that we've talked about, there's a there's a team I 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.400 want to ask about because this team operates in a 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.720 weird fashion, at least to me. They did this big 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.240 fire sale at the deadline last year and then kind 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.000 of stopped. And that's the Minnesota Twins, because they, you know, 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.439 they sold off so many pieces and basically went all 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.680 the way to the end, except for like the last two, 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.280 which have been Joe Ryan, Byron Buckston. Obviously, Pablo Lopez 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.160 got hurt, so and I think that you know, the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.760 Twins are a little closer to the al is so 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.520 jumbled it's really hard to determine whose buyers and sellers. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.240 But you know, I've heard both things. I've heard the 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.480 Twins ownership really doesn't want to sell everybody, and then 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.920 I've heard the front office wants to kind of complete 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.040 the rebuilding and move Ryan and Buxton. Just in your opinion. Obviously, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.840 Ryan would make a lot of sense for the Braves. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.680 He's got under control for two years, it's a reasonable salary, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.640 it's kind of an Ndopoless type move. But do you 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.920 think the Twins are actually gonna kind of finish the 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.679 job on this rebuild and sell Buxton and Ryan or 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.880 is this something the ownership just won't allow. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.360 I have a really hard time seeing Buston moved, and 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.880 we've even seen their front office come out and say 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.280 that they're not wanting to move him. So as of 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.040 this point, unless something changes, I'm not factoring him into 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.040 my trade deadline equation. But that being said, I've said 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:25.920 it for years. I'm pretty sure I've said it even 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.280 in the last time I was on the show. Buxton 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.200 is such a great fit for an Atlanta You get 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.680 him back home, like that just makes so much sense 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.920 for all these sides. But it seems like he's going 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.600 to be there to stay. But I totally agree with 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.680 you on Joe Ryan, and I don't think there's a 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.120 zero percent chance he's moved to this deadline. And I 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.640 think they'd be really wise to listen on him to 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.760 see exactly what's gonna end up being out there, because 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.040 like I listed all these names before, and I missed 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.360 Sandy al Contra, I missed Jose Soriano, like there's other 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.320 names like this pitching market is going to be very deep, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.880 very extensive, but Joe Ryan is going to be one 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.800 of the most intriguing guys. He's affordable, he's performed at 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.120 a high level, and he's also too like that. I 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.040 look at the Brewers as a similar pathway here because 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.520 the Brewers when they had Josh Hater, Devin Williams, Corbyn 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.080 Burns all for a year a year and a half 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.840 left under contracts, they moved on from them and they 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.640 got a good amount of value and that's how they 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:22.000 ended up staying. In contention, I wonder if the Twins, Yeah, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.880 Freddy Prawle a good call, like I forgot about Freddy. 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.520 P and like there's they can there are the. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.640 Twins can go in a similar fashion year with Joe Ryan, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.480 whos got a year and a half left on his contract, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.520 you can get a boatload for him. They could have 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.440 gotten a boatload last year held onto him. But I 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.480 think he's gonna get plenty of hits. I would not 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.720 be surprised if he's moved, and I think he feels 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.800 like a really really good fit. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.400 If, like if the Braves. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.960 Went out and got a big name at the deadline, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.400 I think Ryan makes as much sense as about anybody 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:48.880 on the market. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:54.080 Yeah, A similar team to the Twins, who just recently 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.640 had a change in leadership, of course, was the Angels, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.760 and that's more notable for the Braves than most teams 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.400 because paraman Ias and Avi having you know his past, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.600 you know, relationship with the Braves. Of course, that's who 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.000 the Braves traded with most frequently. Perrym and I is 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.600 now former Cardinals GM John moselac In maybe as a 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.320 temporary GM, who knows he could be long term. But 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.960 names like Jose Siriano you mentioned, read Debt Meers, Joe Dale, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.040 each of those guys controllable I feel that they could, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.680 you know, make sense as being maybe even a package 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.200 deal for Alex and Thompless. But each of those three 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.240 could certainly make sense in a lot of ways for 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.160 the Braves. Perryman Iasen's there, you would think the Braves 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.240 had a pretty good connection, maybe more than most teams 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.960 with the Angels. But John Mozelic now being there may 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.960 actually make it more likely that the Angels move those guys. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.280 What's the potential likelihood that those guys are moved, and 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.440 you know your thoughts on those guys making sense for 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:42.920 the Braves. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.920 Yeah, my alarm bells like always go up with the Angels, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.840 especially here now that they they don't have Perry there, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.120 because in years past, they've been super hesitant to move 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.200 on from those guys and they've held on to him 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.920 and they've lost some of his guys and it's just 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.800 been it's been unfortunate for them, especially a guy like 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.760 show Hey, although I think that was more art moral 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.200 than anybody, but this deadline, now that you have John Mozelac, 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.360 he's got a history of making bigger moves, like he's 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.800 not afraid of doing anything, and the fact that he 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.639 ended up not talking to Arta moreno throughout this process, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.400 and he just talked to Molly Jolly there during during 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.439 the interview process. I wonder, like, could he have like 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.040 like autonomy? Over all this stuffhere is already gonna meddle. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:26.320 I don't know my. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.000 Guest has already tries to meddle, But I do think 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.000 it ends up increasing the chances here where a Debtmers 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.960 could be moved or Joe Adell type. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.720 Could be moved. And I think both of those guys 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.560 would make a lot of sense here for. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.600 Atlanta, and you have I think the Braves could definitely 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.040 use another bat, which is why, like I thought Adell 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:45.800 made a lot of sense, I also thought of Taylor 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.760 word type made a lot of sense for them, like both. 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.040