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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition I'll be Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sesler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rose. Though what is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Is that still a thing like hitting the deadline? I

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Speaker 1: guess it is. I mean, yeah, it's just clearly a

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Speaker 1: very old one because that doesn't come up for another

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Speaker 1: six months, right right, Maybe we could have had a

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Speaker 1: better I've never filed my own taxes for years. My

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Speaker 1: to having my wife to it for me. I've never

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Speaker 1: touched also a political sort of topic right now. So

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both the president and financials revealing.

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Speaker 1: Got it good time? All right? We nailed it? So, Greg, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's us always write, you know, with our finger on

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Speaker 1: the pulse political world. This is Week eleven preview show,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a lot of content coming your way,

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Speaker 1: as we always do, especially this time of week. So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna we're gonna preview all of the Sunday games,

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Speaker 1: the Monday night game, which is in Mexico City, by

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Speaker 1: the way, how about that? Uh? And then later tonight

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night, Brown Steelers Dirt Nap to. They're calling it

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Speaker 1: for the Browns who clawed their clawed their way out

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Speaker 1: of the grave and now have a chance to go

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Speaker 1: whistling through the graveyard. Mark and that will be a

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Speaker 1: nap I might go with them. Now, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on the game I got. There will be

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Speaker 1: twelve feet under if they lose this game. Um. And also,

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Speaker 1: which is a cool little thing because not only do

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Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, who keeps her eye on on this type stuff. Say,

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Speaker 1: Mark's excited. You know what. I initially do not like

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Speaker 1: It's that time of year. Uh, and one one more program.

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Speaker 1: Note if you are watching this, I'll just know that

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Speaker 1: I will be filling in on Game debut later this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal's program was simply a Freeland picking all of

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Speaker 1: it airs on NFL Network on Saturday two times, including

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Speaker 1: I did, uh. Greg said he is excited. We do

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Speaker 1: what's up. I hear your hosting game debut today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just thought I could help out. I don't care

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Speaker 1: listen to me. Game debut is my show. So cut

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Speaker 1: out all that signature hands as bullshit? Will you? All right? Man?

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Speaker 1: I ensure you calling your own content signature. Dan contently,

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Speaker 1: we do a draft style and we always do, and Mark,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a quarterback like him before, when Vic came

427
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Speaker 1: out of Virginia Tech and sort of blazed across. This

428
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: guy like Genghis kind out of out of the Asian

429
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: steps and took the league by storm. He's obviously spectacular,

430
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: but I've never say that. Yeah, I've never seen anybody

431
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray that size, spinning balls the way he

432
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: spins them like you know, kind of like Spider Man

433
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: flinging a web. It just comes out of his wrists

434
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: so fast. He's so quick back there, and he's so

435
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: cool under pressure, and it was emphasized so much playing

436
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: on the same field as Jamis Winston, who looked like

437
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 1: a drunken giraffe in comparison to Kyler Murray. Smooth, kind

438
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: of jazz saxophone back there under you know, just calm

439
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: under pressure. And I love watching this guy play. He

440
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: looks like the real deal. I am all in and

441
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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals have to be the most elated

442
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: three win team I've seen in a long time because

443
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: they have their guy. You know what it looks like

444
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: is is a generational athlete, which makes sense when he

445
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: got the biggest signing bonus in your one of the

446
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Speaker 1: biggest in Major League history, I believe, uh, you know,

447
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: from the A's And he's a guy who's breaking boundaries

448
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: in terms of his height, in the arm strength that

449
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Speaker 1: he has. He's just insanely talented and confident. As he said,

450
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Speaker 1: the way he moves it just looks I'm with you.

451
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: It looks different than other athletes, and the way the

452
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: ball comes out of his hand is as pretty and

453
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: as good, for lack of a better word, as any

454
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. This is one of those scheduling

455
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: scheduling wrinkles where they just had the Cardinals and forty

456
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: nine square off, you know, less than fourteen days ago

457
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: that I don't like that either, but I think it's interesting.

458
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: It's an interesting challenge for San Francisco because the Cardinals

459
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Speaker 1: were one of the first teams I thought to put

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Speaker 1: it to San Francisco's defense, and David Johnson, who did

461
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Speaker 1: not look very good last week at all, had a

462
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: big game. Kenyan Drake had a big game against San Francisco.

463
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: So how do you go and attack the same defense,

464
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league two weeks later.

465
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: You can't count on an eighty eight yard Andy Isabella

466
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: touchdown every time you play against Is it starting to

467
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: feel like David Johnson might not be on this team

468
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: next year? Well, I think they take a huge punishment

469
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: if they cut him, like seventeen million or something. He's

470
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: clearly just not close to healthy, and it wouldn't shock

471
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: me if they sat him down for this game. Chase

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Speaker 1: Edmonds isn't ready to come back, but Drake is is

473
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Speaker 1: going to be the starter for now. But George Kittle

474
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: is gonna miss this game at least it's strongly appear.

475
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Speaker 1: And Joe Staley came back for a week and and

476
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: broke his finger and had surgery, so he's back out.

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Speaker 1: If anything, I don't know. I think it's a dangerous

478
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Speaker 1: matchup for San Francisco. I don't I don't know about

479
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: the plane them twice in three weeks. If that favors

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Speaker 1: anyone or not, but I'd be a little worried. Let's

481
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Speaker 1: touch on it real quick, just because, um, this is

482
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Speaker 1: the team he previously played for. It. But the NFL

483
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: has arranged a workout for Colin Kaepernick. It's a private

484
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: workout this Saturday in Atlanta that all thirty two teams

485
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: are welcome to attend. Uh. This is a memo that

486
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: was obtained by Ian Rappaport kaepern Kaepernick confirmed the workout

487
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: in a tweet posted later Tuesday evening. Um, the general

488
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Speaker 1: vibe right now around this workout is people are a

489
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Speaker 1: little bit caught off guard by it around the league,

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Speaker 1: and both the timing of it on a Saturday, which

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Speaker 1: is a travel day in the NFL, and the short

492
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Speaker 1: amount of heads up teams were given, which was this

493
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: was something that was announced Tuesday for an event on Saturday,

494
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Speaker 1: which I believe I heard it saw it reported that

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Speaker 1: kaeperni Is Kaepernick's camp push back, hoping to get it

496
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Speaker 1: the following Saturday so more people could teams could uh

497
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Speaker 1: game planet, but they were denied without an explanation. So

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Speaker 1: this is going down, h I know NFL network is

499
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: gonna be there covering it, as will many other media

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Speaker 1: groups potentially, although they're all going to be kind of

501
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Speaker 1: locked out of the facility, even even NFL on network.

502
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: They'll just be out on the street. Is that how

503
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. They're not allowing any media in there.

504
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: Uh must watch TV and it's a workout and uh

505
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Speaker 1: a interview process apparently, so you know. Steve Weish reported

506
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Speaker 1: that Kaeperner's the workout will be run by a scouting

507
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Speaker 1: combined personnel and former NFL coaches, and then any teams

508
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Speaker 1: on hand could also hold interviews with him. I think,

509
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, the skepticism that came when this first popped up,

510
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Speaker 1: you know, has been obviously earned, and it's just so

511
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Speaker 1: strange and unprecedented a situation. As the week's unfolded, I've

512
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: just kind of wanted to like track all the stories,

513
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: and I think, look, everything about Colin kaepernick situation with

514
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the NFL is unprecedented. Uh, And it's it's fascinating to

515
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Speaker 1: me that that this is happening that the NFL, who

516
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: has kind of set in the past we're not in

517
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: the business of helping players get jobs back in league,

518
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Speaker 1: are are now in the business of of trying to

519
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: help Colin Kaepernick get back. So to me, it's interesting.

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00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to know all the different motivations and everything

521
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but I never expected this to be

522
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: a big part of our lives again. And it does

523
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Speaker 1: make you think that there's a chance Kaepernick is going

524
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Speaker 1: to be back in the league at some point, at

525
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: least a chance which at this point I had kind

526
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Speaker 1: of assumed was was over. I would have loved to

527
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Speaker 1: seen it take place on a Tuesday, which is the

528
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Speaker 1: natural in the middle bio rhythm of NFL weeks, the

529
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Speaker 1: day that more teams could you know, have I not

530
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: sent to it? I don't know, Like that's the thing

531
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Speaker 1: it's weird, and you just want you want the NFL too.

532
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: If they're gonna do this, to do it the right way.

533
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Speaker 1: That does not lead to a lot of controversy going

534
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Speaker 1: into the event. That leads to people like Eric Reid,

535
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: of course, the Panther's safety, who's the first person to

536
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: kneel on the sideline with Kaepernick with the Niners, to

537
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: sniff it out and say, to me, this feels like

538
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: a PR stunt. I feel like this is a situation

539
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: that probably the best move would be again, get on

540
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: the same page with everybody. Make sure whatever has decided

541
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Speaker 1: tothing that you know, whether it's Kaepernick's camp the NFL camp,

542
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: are both in lockstep on because once you're not in lockstep,

543
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: like it with the timing of this, it leads to

544
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: the story going in a different direction. So well, there's

545
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: different you know, camps, there's ownership and then there's the

546
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: league office. Those aren't necessarily the same camps. Ultimately, either

547
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: he gets signed at or he doesn't. And so if

548
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: he gets signed, it wasn't a PR stunt. And if

549
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't get signed, then people are going to have

550
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: you both their opinions both. This is an avenue for

551
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: teams who were tepid, who are shy about bringing him

552
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: in and facing any kind of back last we would

553
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: come in. This is an avenue for them to check him.

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00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: That's what always reported that. There was a few teams

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00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: that that's progress. I'm happy about that. Now I've now

556
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: heard the argument made in the worst faith that I've

557
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: heard of any argument all year. Why don't they do

558
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: this for any other free agents? To read free agents?

559
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: Give me a break. You know the difference between Colin

560
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: Kaepernick and every other street free agent out there. It's

561
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: a bad faith argument and nobody should pay attention to it.

562
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: They did have a veteran essentially a camp that was

563
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: in the off season and netted very little results. Coaches

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00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins, Detroit Lions, Atlanta Falcons, and Tampa

565
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers have said they expect to have a representative

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Speaker 1: at the Falcons practice of facility where this is going down.

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Uh that per espn um, so we shall see. Uh.

568
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: John Elway also said the Broncos will be there, the

569
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: Redskins will be there, the Cowboys, the Cardinals, so they

570
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: will have teams there and Kaepernick um will get the

571
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to perform in front of them, all right, let

572
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: us move on West. Nice choice. You really put me

573
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: in a pickle. I had the whole thing figured out.

574
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: That's what I hate about fantasy drafts. When the person

575
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: right before you, I had to know that was a possibility.

576
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I know, I thought it was a pretty strong possibility,

577
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: but I was holding out hope. So the disappointment is

578
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: I actually thought you were picking there, and I was

579
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: a little crestfalling. There. We got there, we got see.

580
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Now you're happy about the order? I am, thank you good.

581
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: What's going on with Matthew Stafford? He's currently not. I'm

582
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: the guy scrambling with the clock ticking down and I

583
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: have to make a pick and I'm gonna end up panicking.

584
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to watch this. Just take buddy

585
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: for it, alright, because you know what I don't. I

586
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: really don't want to watch the I feel like I

587
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: watched the Colts a lot, but I will. Jake Brisket

588
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: should be back and Nick Foles is back in the lineup,

589
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: So how about slice of that Jake brisky how about

590
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: an important AC South matchup between the Jags? And it's

591
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: really and after I took his in the culture back

592
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: his back. You know, thomb and Spielman are on a rule.

593
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I want that Saints Bucks game, and that's what that's what.

594
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: I hold your breath and you might get it. Um anyway, Jags,

595
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is back, and I really do want to

596
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: see how that offense looks with Folds behind center. We

597
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: barely got a glimpse of him before he had the

598
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: clavical injury. So so now he's in the lineup, and

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Tuesday with the you know

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Speaker 1: hot butt check in uh, Doug Maroon. You imagine he

601
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: needs a strong finish here. So it makes this a

602
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: very important game. And on the cult side, you know,

603
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: they're clinically addicted to playing these close games, uh and

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00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: nine nine out of nine, nine out of nine seven

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00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: points or less. And among that group, I believe half

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00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: of them is field goal or less or close to it. U.

607
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: So you know how this game is gonna end up.

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00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Most likely it's gonna again come down to the wire.

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00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: And obviously with Brian Hoyer, UM, the CULTU are gonna

610
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: lose a lot of those games. In fact, he's lost

611
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: ten straight starts now, so there are just inherent limitations

612
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: with Brian Hoyer that we're all aware of. Jacoby Brissette

613
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: is kind of on the other's end of that spectrum

614
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: where he's a guy you can kind of trust in

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00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: a close game. And I do want to point out

616
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: that again, the cults have decided to stick with Adam Vinatieri,

617
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and I mean, I guess there's two boys to look

618
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: at it. One is loyalty is great, and respect for

619
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: a legendary kicker is great. And the idea of well,

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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna have Vintieri, you gotta go get

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: a guy on the pile. And those guys look at

622
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: Chase mcgaughlin with the Niners an example, how do you

623
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get something better? But that to me

624
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: is it's almost like a Cowboys esque move. There's a

625
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: lack of boldness there and and it seems like they're

626
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: playing it safe and overly, overly respectful. And how many

627
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: more games is gonna cost him? Because it costs him

628
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: on Sunday because if you watch that game, he misses

629
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: another extra point there in the red zone with seconds

630
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: to play, and instead of being able to kick a

631
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: game tying field goal or attempting one, they have to

632
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: go for a Touchdowkster down four instead of three. This

633
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that's happening, and that could

634
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: kill a team. They are right on the nose. We

635
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: talked about it. The difference between eight and eight team

636
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: and a tenant six team is nothing. In the NFL.

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: It is a field goal kick here and one stop there,

638
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Speaker 1: and you feel like if they don't, if they're not

639
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Speaker 1: sharper in these elements of the game, the Cults will

640
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Speaker 1: finish on the eight eight side of this. There's such

641
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: a young team with the last two draft classes being

642
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: so good and so deep that a lot of these

643
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: guys play and I wondered, do they even know how

644
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: good Adam Vinitary's career is. But I think it actually

645
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: helps the locker room. It helps Frank reik Standing to

646
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: keep backing him because rookies and second year players, they're

647
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: low on the pecking order. Who are they to complain

648
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: about what's going on. They love the person, I mean

649
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: they they the organization has a thing for Vinitary and

650
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: and that's why this is happening. But to your point,

651
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be one of these teams, you're sitting

652
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: at five and four and every game is gonna come

653
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: down two kicks basically, and he's missing P A T

654
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: s and he's missing you know, it's it's not a

655
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: great look to watch the field goal zig zag thirty

656
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: yards to the left when it should just be going

657
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: right down the middle. I love the fact that they

658
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: get for set back because Hoyer changed the this offense

659
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: in the sense, so they became a turnover machine. And Prisset,

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: for all his ups and downs, had has three interceptions

661
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: on the entire year. He's protected the ball. Well, they're

662
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to do this to have a chance in

663
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: the a f C. I love how Set and I

664
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: love Frank Reich, But as the season's gone on, I've

665
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: come more around to West's view that this is not

666
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: a a fun team to watch. You know. The even

667
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line, which is you know, supposed to be

668
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: their bedrock, ultimately didn't play very well against Pittsburgh and

669
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: definitely didn't play that well against Miami. Mean that's a matchup.

670
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: You you thought Hoyer wouldn't be seen pressure he did.

671
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: You thought they'd kind of mow them over. Not really,

672
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: And I think t Y Hilton is the Jenga piece here.

673
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I was going to say the exact same thing. You know,

674
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: that's Dave Damnishek's theory. Say, okay, well we're gonna say it. No,

675
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Speaker 1: not Mark Well. I mean it's I was just getting excited.

676
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: Not the guy that like makes them, you know, fall

677
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: apart as a team. It's the guy that you pull

678
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: the Jenga piece out and they're no longer watchable, Like

679
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: they need t Y Hilton to be watchable because even

680
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts are the defense is a little

681
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: bit more of the some of their parts are better

682
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: than the actual pieces. It's us kind of they're just there.

683
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Did the Jags have a higher ceiling? There was too

684
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: much Eric Ebron last week, you know, most of it bad.

685
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: And I can't blame him for the touchdown that he

686
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: caught and was rolled. An interception. I don't even know

687
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: how that happens that you know, an interception is a

688
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: pass caught in the air by a defensive player and

689
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: not one tussled on the ground like pigs wallow in

690
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: the mud. Understand that one. Uh. No t Y Hilton

691
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: this week. It looks like no Devin Funcious, He's another

692
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: week away. Still no Paris Campbell. I mean nihem Hines

693
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: is playing as well as he has all year, but

694
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: that's not enough. Yeah, they have Pascal. I I do

695
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: want to just say, I'm I think the fulls Jags

696
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: have a high ceiling and they have two receivers and

697
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: Conley and Chark who can go down the field and

698
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: get it. And you know, four nets faced more eight

699
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: men and eight man boxes than just about any running

700
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Speaker 1: back in the entire league. Maybe that eases up with

701
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Foals in there. I think this is potentially a six

702
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: seed type of team. You gotta win a game like this. Well,

703
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I think they're ceiling is high. I think their best

704
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: could be pretty good. I'm with you when we all

705
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Folds very briefly before he was injured in the opener,

706
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: connect with Shark, with Chark deep the way that Minshew

707
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: did it later in that game and has since. The

708
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: one area that you want to see improvement that Gardner

709
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Minshew could not fix at quarterback was the red zone offense.

710
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: There they've been a field goal attack because they cannot

711
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Speaker 1: punch it in. And then I think they're the third

712
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: worst team in the red zone. And that's where you

713
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: think Nick Foles can help you. We've seen Amari Cooper

714
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas have made some great boundary catches. D J.

715
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Speaker 1: Chark is already one of the best boundary receivers in

716
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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's he's a number one I think with

717
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: no matter who's under center. A nice little player, all right, yeah,

718
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Speaker 1: I mean you really got me West because you box

719
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: me in here. Because I'm snaking, and you know Greg

720
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: always picks the Patriots. I'm always gonna watch the Jets.

721
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't care how bad they are. That's a that's

722
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: an early game. So that's gonna take up my two screens.

723
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Speaker 1: I only have two screens because I got my early game.

724
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: Now with the Jackson Colts of Jets and Skins are

725
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna be on my second screen. Can't pick another early game.

726
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Now here's the problem. Here's the problem. I want to

727
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Speaker 1: take a late game. There's only one left, so I'm

728
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna grab it. The Bengals at the Raiders. No one's

729
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna take Jets Redskins. We can we can all agree

730
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: the team I forgot this is my is my last

731
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Speaker 1: pick of the draft, so I'm essentially punting on um

732
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: leading the Jets combo on Sunday, I'll take Bangles at

733
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: Raiders and um, not much to see from the Cincinnati

734
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball, obviously, But you know what, I

735
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: just like watching the Raiders this season, and I like

736
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: watching them at the black Hole. And that's enough. And

737
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: and what's been this is like the two thousand and

738
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: thirteen draft, the Luke jokel Eric Fisher Draft. Where is

739
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: That's not a lot of big time pops. So you

740
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: find what you like and maybe it's just something that

741
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: enriches you a little bit. There's nothing gonna be franchise shaking.

742
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: So just give me this, this fun John Gruden team,

743
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: and I'll sit back in the late afternoon or here

744
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: in California early afternoon and just enjoy it. And I'll

745
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: watch the Raiders and see if they can take care

746
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: of business and further in trenched themselves as an a

747
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: f C wild card team. This Bengals team. For the

748
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: first time in the history of our podcast, this year's

749
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: version reminds me of the nineteen nineties Bengals. The hopelessness,

750
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: the apathy that's taking hold in Cincinnati, the smattering of

751
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: fans last week in the stadium with a cartoon tiger

752
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: that's supposed to scare the other team. It just looks

753
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: ridiculous when it's on f field and it teams getting

754
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: blown out and you're playing the wrong quarterback, a guy

755
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: who's not nearly as good as the guy you benched

756
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: um and in the defense that can't tackle anyone. Uh,

757
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: young players that don't develop anymore. These are the signpost

758
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: that I remember from the nineties, and it's just to

759
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: disconnect with the fans right now. They just don't care.

760
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is sitting back and just saying and in

761
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals defense, so much of this is injury never

762
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: happened with him, although he had a couple pretty grizzly

763
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: for when yes he did seasons that he survived and

764
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: then would bounce back from. I don't think we can

765
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: say too much about family. Wasn't exciting last week. I

766
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: did a couple of things. Not an easy matchup. If

767
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: this is a this is an easy matchup. This is

768
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: a bad Raiders defense, and you should be able to

769
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: put up points on them, even if you're Ryan Finley.

770
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I think we the one thing we could have hit

771
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: on more coming out of that Raiders Chargers Thursday night affair.

772
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: In our our recap that night was Clell and Farrell

773
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: in the past rush making a difference and that hasn't

774
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: happened that often for Oakland. But they gave Philip Rivers

775
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: a tough time. And if you do that to this

776
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Bengals offense, because outside of Joe Mixon and we don't

777
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: know if a J. Green is gonna what's going on

778
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: with a j wait until Andy Dalton's back or something.

779
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: That situation is absurd and I don't see how you

780
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: know you the Bengals got eaten up by the Ravens

781
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: tight ends last week. Here comes Darren Waller, show me

782
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: you can stop anyone. And I worried for Zach Tiller

783
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: because veteran players can decide pretty quickly on a coach

784
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: and talk about a locker room that looks like they've

785
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: completely not saying that they've bailed on their coach. We

786
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: just don't know that. But what is happening week to

787
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: week where there's belief growing in your first year coach?

788
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't see that. I see the opposite. I mean, honestly,

789
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: he didn't deserve the job in the first place. And

790
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: that's I mean, when a guy comes in that young,

791
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: who'd never even called plays before, how is your team

792
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna respect him when you start out? Oh and nine?

793
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: The the Raiders are in a weird spot, though totally

794
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: expected to win. Didn't think that would be in that

795
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: spot with the next two weeks Raiders and Jets. Uh,

796
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: rather Bengals and Jets. The Raiders should get to seven

797
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: and four. Jets on the road is a tougher one,

798
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: but you know that's a new spot for a team

799
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: that's that's won a lot of close games, has a

800
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: pretty bad defense. We'll see coming off an emotional win

801
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: getting half of bye, you know, do they come back

802
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: feeling themselves against the winless team. Maybe this game is

803
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: up a little closer than you'd expect, but I like

804
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Before we move on to the next pick,

805
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: which will be a Chris Westling banger. A reminder, the

806
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Speaker 1: instagram around the NFL handle is blowing up the A

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Speaker 1: t N podcast. We are up to almost hundred followers,

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00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: and yes we did say we would quit um if

809
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Speaker 1: we didn't have ten thousand by Sunday. What I didn't

810
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Speaker 1: make clear was which Sunday was referring to, well, referring

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Speaker 1: to the upcoming Sunday. So what we need is just

812
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: to get to ten k over the next three days

813
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: or so, and we will keep the podcast going. And

814
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: I know we've become a part of everyone's routine and

815
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you love our show and what we provide, and we

816
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: love connecting with you. Don't let that go away. Don't

817
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: kill it. Don't kill a thing you love because it

818
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: doesn't always come back. I mean, we also the the

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Speaker 1: announcement that we were going to quit. I have two children.

820
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Speaker 1: I know other people in the room have children. They

821
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Speaker 1: are expensive, and you know, I'm not just gonna rashly

822
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Speaker 1: dissolve my employment based on what a bunch of other

823
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: people do on Instagram. Just throwing that out there. If

824
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: if the show ends, I will find something else to

825
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: do in the building. Oh no, we're not saying we're

826
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: quitting in the NFL. Okay, just making it clear, right,

827
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: you know that's not I thought you were saying the

828
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: NFL podcast scab. You'd just be by yourself like it's

829
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler of the ARAM And I think that would

830
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: be delightful, very smooth, like change the whole flow of

831
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Speaker 1: the show, put some jazz behind you, Like sounds pretty good.

832
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, do we have enough value

833
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: outside of this podcast to really keep it going. It's

834
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: almost the inverse of how we started, where we were

835
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: sneaking around. Our bosses really had no value, you know,

836
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Speaker 1: in terms of this podcast, and they didn't want us

837
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: doing it to the point where I don't know, if

838
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: there's no podcast, they may just say what do you

839
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: what do you guys really do? Again? The only team

840
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: close by is the Rams. I've spent twenty minutes taking

841
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: them down in the show. So not a good set

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Speaker 1: of v A t N podcast on Instagram. Give us

843
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: a follow. We're putting a lot of stuff up there.

844
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Eric is doing a great job with it. Help us

845
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Speaker 1: out West, You're up next. I want that Saints Bucks games.

846
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, thomb and Spielman r on a rule,

847
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: every game they get is a banger. So let's take

848
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the Saints, who um have numbers one and two Drew

849
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Brees and Teddy Bridgewater uh and fewest air yards per

850
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: attempt this season six point two yards and six point

851
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: three yards. They don't stretch the field in any stretch

852
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: of the imagination. Against a Bucks front seven that is

853
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: improving throughout the season. You get Jason Pierre Paul back

854
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: and he's playing like a man on fire the last

855
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: two weeks. Devin White, the first round pick who really

856
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: didn't do anything in the first half of the season,

857
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: starting to play with speed and confidence. Ran right through

858
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: some Cardinals ball carriers last week, taking them down. He's

859
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: still missing some tackles, but you're seeing sort of a

860
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: seeking destroy mentality from him as a linebacker that I

861
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: like to watch. I would be all in on this

862
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: Bucks team is perhaps my favorite team to watch. What

863
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: is happening here? If I love it. If they had

864
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: the other quarterback from last week's game, Kyler Murray, then

865
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: they welcome. I mean, Jamis is a hard watch, just

866
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: all arms and legs and never under control. And I can't.

867
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Can you take it a little bit, just a little

868
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: bit West? Well, here's we're running. We're running behind. But

869
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I do need to hear this. What made you cry

870
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: while watching that game? I didn't cry. It was just

871
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: a joke. I was just like you did, choking about crying,

872
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, this game I was

873
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: just joking about. But here's the Yeah, Okay, Jamis. You

874
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: know he makes makes a lot of mistakes. Uh, he

875
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: is making more big plays and that's that has to

876
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: be part of it. He is letting some of his

877
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: receivers like Evans and Godwin and O. J. Howard and

878
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: even the running backs shine by giving them a chance.

879
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: And since they're bye week, I think the Bruce Arians

880
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: offense looks a lot more like a Bruce Arians offense.

881
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Even if Winston isn't the ideal person to be running,

882
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: they're better, They're more explosive. Right. Here's here's Jamis Winston

883
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: in a nutshell. Over the last four weeks, he has

884
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: the longest active streak of three yard games in the NFL.

885
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: He also has the most giveaways in the NFL over

886
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: that stretch with thirteen. I mean, he just keeps in

887
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: the ball away. Um. I cannot believe. As I was

888
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: watching that Saints game, it was hard to believe what

889
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: you were watching against the Falcons. And I think the

890
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: thing that really jumped out was how dominating Atlanta's defense was,

891
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: how they were just flying all over the place. And

892
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: to Dan Quinn's credit, I'll say this, for a team

893
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: that looked like it had quit on its coach based

894
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: on the results, that they were pumped up and ready

895
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: to play that game. It was the proverbial this is

896
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: our Super Bowl game, I think from the Falcons, who

897
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: whose season was over. But at least they can, you know,

898
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: go into the super Dome and you know, f up

899
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: their rival. Um that said, this Saints team, nothing has

900
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: changed about them. To me overall, that was a stinker loss.

901
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna bounce back in a big way.

902
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks. The worst thing could have happened

903
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: to the Bucks, in fact, is for the Saints to

904
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: get um embarrassed. Quite frankly, they get an angry Saints.

905
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: You've got Sean Payton, who's a guy who know has

906
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: had to motivate. He's from Parcels Is Tree, Parcels was

907
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: the master at that. You weren't so good, were you?

908
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: You know, you know everyone was telling you you're the

909
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: best team in the league. Will you didn't look like

910
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: you know that type of motivation. I totally could see

911
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Peyton getting anonymous. Yes, do the angry Saints still blow

912
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: teams out? Because I haven't seen a team that blows

913
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: anyone out anymore. Well, they won thirty one nine before

914
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: they went to the by right there. The final score

915
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: was misleading, but they put a whooping on the Bucks

916
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: that they have three games this year with no touchdown,

917
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: So they're not a blowout. They're not to blow you

918
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: about team. So maybe they're finding their way. And remember

919
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: their quarterback, who you could talk about, maybe he's in decline.

920
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: You could also say he missed a long stretch of

921
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: games and it's gonna take him maybe to get up

922
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: to speed a little bit with the rest of the team.

923
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Long way of saying that, I will be locking up

924
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: the Saints here um on the road, because hell, they're

925
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: the Saints, and just one loss is not gonna shake

926
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: me to the core. Even if the Bucks are improving,

927
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to join you with that lock. And I

928
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I think the trolley carr lock situation has worked well

929
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: for me mostly um, I I think the Bucks in

930
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: West I'm still reeling from you suddenly fanning out on

931
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks, a team that because of the sunlight in

932
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: their stadium, you and I have ignored for a long

933
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: long time, the uniforms sunlight outdoor. They are fun to

934
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: watch week after week. And I have been tough on

935
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and questioning that Bruce Arians really wanted to

936
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: do all this and come back. But you know what,

937
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: there's you can see the Bruce Arians effects starting to

938
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: take hold. I love that Ronald Jones is starting to

939
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: clearly become the guy in the backfield, and he was.

940
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: He made a big difference as a receiver last year.

941
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: Loses its wings every time Peyton Barber gets to carry that.

942
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones should get that. I'm with you. I'm worried.

943
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: He fumbled Ronald Jones and then he didn't see the

944
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: field after that in the in the fourth quarter. This

945
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: is a division game. The Saints really dominated them with

946
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. What was it about five weeks ago? Now

947
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: I do. I'm really fascinated. I wanted to take this

948
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: game to see see what happens here because I think

949
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: the Bucks have been playing better after the bye and uh,

950
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to see if that's a

951
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: one game blip for the Saints or if it's you know,

952
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: we're going into the division part of the schedule. These

953
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: teams know each other, while Arians is a little different

954
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: obviously because he's a new coach, but they pretty much

955
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: have their entire division schedule left to play. I think

956
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: four more to go. Uh, and I don't know. I

957
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that's a one week blip

958
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: out of the Saints and not something that we're gonna

959
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: be tracking. Alright, moving on, Greg, you're on the clock.

960
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Well you took uh, you took Saints bucks from me.

961
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: August West total anarchy today the draft, I'm really enjoying.

962
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: You've done really well. There's clearly some there's new people

963
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: running West's front office this summer. This is like an

964
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: old fantasy draft where you feeling really good after the

965
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: draft because everybody wanted your guys. You got the eye

966
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: of the tiger back. Yeah, oh yeah, And I'm gonna

967
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Panthers and Falcons NFC South Long

968
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: my favorite vision. Not its best year, but I was

969
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: intrigued by by the Falcons showing up and kind of

970
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: being the team we thought maybe they would be all

971
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: season last week, at least on defense. And I think

972
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: this Panther's offensive line is been pretty poor and last

973
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: week was another week it's been poor. And Kyle Allen

974
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: asking him to win versus pressure. I think it's a

975
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: lot to ask. And I do think this could be

976
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: an upset special just because I don't buy the fact

977
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: that a team with him a former m v P

978
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: who in my mind, Matt Ryan is still in prime

979
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: going against Kyle Allen and his eighth start. I don't

980
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: see that as some crazy upset, And I'm just I

981
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: think this could be a different Falcons team down the stretch.

982
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Maybe not great, but win three or four more games

983
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: and and cause some havoc mat Brian moves to chains.

984
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: They're in the top five again and drive success rate.

985
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: They're super banged up at running back, DeVonta Freeman out,

986
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, Smith out, Brian Hill. I don't think it

987
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: hurt some, but hell looks fine that he looked better

988
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: than DeVonta Freeman has not been great all or to

989
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: begin with. But I if we're gonna look at the

990
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Saints what happened last week against the Falcons, say, I

991
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: want to see what happens, you know, if that, if

992
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: any of that sticks, I feel the same way about

993
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Atlanta's pass rush and everything Atlanta like, I don't know.

994
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: The Panthers also went into Green Bay, and I thought

995
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: they played it. They that was a tough environment they've got.

996
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: It's easy to forget that Kyle Allen is still very inexperienced,

997
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: and they battled the Packers, an NFC title type team

998
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: right down to the end. And I trust this was

999
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: where I was gonna go locking potentially because I trust

1000
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: Carolina to put it on the Falcons on Sunday. Dan

1001
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Quinn on the sideline during that Saints win, he was

1002
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: beaming by the end of the game because he understood

1003
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: not not only is it just a great win obviously

1004
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: against the rival and what's been a really tough season,

1005
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: but now there's a path I think that I don't

1006
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: think he has a good chance or even a decent

1007
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: chance of saving his job, but the puncher's chance is

1008
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: that they can really string together a run coming off

1009
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: what was just kind of for them a monumental win

1010
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Um So I do think it's a

1011
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: dangerous game, I think for the Panthers, who aren't really

1012
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: built to blow teams out. Uh and the Falcons have

1013
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: that ability to move the ball on offense, and their

1014
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: defense certainly looked much better, much better. I mean, Younger

1015
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: is getting all the credit. Zeeve Weiss reported that, you

1016
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: know we talked about Jeff all Brick was calling their defense.

1017
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: He's calling their rundowns. And remind people who younger is

1018
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: because I coach now calling their plays on passing downs.

1019
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: They switched them from offense to defense, and everybody in

1020
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: their secondary said he's a great communicator. Like the difference

1021
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: in the game last week was Wheheem Morris taking over

1022
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: the secondary. So we'll see, you know, that could be

1023
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: just one of these storylines somebody's pushing out, but it

1024
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: made a difference on the f than McCaffrey. I just

1025
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: don't see what's so special about this Panthers team. I know,

1026
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: statistically they're very good against the past, but they can't

1027
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: stop the run. The pass rush is not They have

1028
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks on the season, but at least lately,

1029
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem as good. Brian Burns got hurt and

1030
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: then has been totally and they don't even play him

1031
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: at this point. It's very strange to watch Luke Keikley

1032
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: kind of being pushed back in the running game. It's

1033
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: not his fault because his defensive lineman can't get the

1034
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: blockers off him, and this whole team is always playing

1035
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: kind of backing up. Well, this seems to happen to

1036
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: me more than more than a few times. But I'm

1037
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: stuck in this scenario where I'm gonna have three one

1038
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: o'clock games, which is an absolute nightmare, so it didn't

1039
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: have to be that way. But I like the fact

1040
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: that I'm going to get to watch Houston to Baltimore.

1041
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: So I need to pick a game that I can

1042
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: put maybe half attention on, and that feels to me

1043
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: like the Bills in the Dolphins. And I like this

1044
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins team, and I'm not trying to be, you know,

1045
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: snarky at all. I think they're they've Brian Flores is

1046
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: someone that you know is in a very tough situation

1047
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: this year, has done a good job coaching this team,

1048
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: does not killing them kill themselves with penalties. I think

1049
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: they're better coach team than, for instance, my Browns at

1050
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: this point. I really do. He's gotten a lot out

1051
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: of a little and Buffalo not a trap game necessarily,

1052
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: but it might be because the Bills really I thought

1053
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: last week against Cleveland they probably should have won that game.

1054
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: They don't impress me on offense, and they feel like

1055
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna when they make when they win

1056
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: eleven games and they go into the playoffs, they're gonna

1057
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: get bonked early because they cannot keep up with a

1058
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: team that scores I liked. I think they have a

1059
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: nasty secondary, and there's no reason they shouldn't be able

1060
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: to take out Miami. But this game could be a

1061
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: little fourteen to tend type situation. I wouldn't be surprised

1062
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: if it is the Bills fans who see this as

1063
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a trap game or a game maker look ahead. You

1064
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: can't look ahead of anybody. You're not good enough to

1065
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: look ahead of anybody Buffalo. And it's not it's not

1066
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: like a shot across the ball. It's just the reality

1067
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: when you look at this. I think most most Bills

1068
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: fans are mostly realistic about this. I would go watch

1069
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins defense did against the Cults in the

1070
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: first half last week. They complately took out Indianapolis because yes,

1071
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: it is Alan is just not there, but they're selling

1072
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: it up. I also think you just just watch the

1073
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: last Bills Dolphins game. That's kind of when these teams

1074
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: seasons started to flip. Bills were winning in the fourth quarter.

1075
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the Dolphins were winning in the fourth quarter

1076
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. The secondary, with guys like Nick need Him,

1077
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, playing great at cornerback, They're doing

1078
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: great against some of the worst receiving corps in the league,

1079
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: like the Jets, the injury depleted Colts, and now the

1080
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: Bills come in and John Brown's playing great, cool Beastly

1081
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: has been all right. They really need Robert Foster, who

1082
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: I think for the first time all year, played last

1083
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: We had his first catch of the year, and you

1084
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: heard guys on the other team saying, we knew Robert

1085
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: Foster was out there, we knew where he was. We

1086
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: we brought coverage his way and he didn't have a

1087
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: huge impact in the game. But they need him to

1088
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: be that guy. They traded away their number two receivers,

1089
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: they can about anybody to take and have all the

1090
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: receivers they want. They they need a quarterback. I mean

1091
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: they there's a difference between arm strength being good throwing

1092
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: the ball vertically. Josh Allen I think is the worst

1093
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: vertical passer in the entire NFL. He's he was over

1094
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: thirteen on passes over thirty yards going into two weeks ago,

1095
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: and he missed another four. And when he misses, I

1096
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: mean he misses by like twenty yards. I can't even

1097
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: he gets the comparisons to Cam and I get it's

1098
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: closer to Kaepernick. He doesn't put any loft or touch

1099
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: on I get it because he has a red zone

1100
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: weapon and he's the biggest reason why they're, you know,

1101
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: one of the top teams in the red zone. But

1102
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: he's not a streaky quarterback because there's no hot streaks.

1103
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: There's no hot streaks in terms of difficult throws. It

1104
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. Do we buy the Frank Gore going

1105
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: in any of Miami as a revenge game every week?

1106
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: It feels like every team has a revenge game. He's

1107
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: not giving them anything the last few weeks. I don't

1108
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: know if. Yeah, they're they're not using him that as

1109
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: much now. They use them in short yardage in the

1110
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: goal line. Yeah, they need to get as much Devin

1111
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: Singletary as possible because along with you know, John Brown,

1112
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: he's they're the two best players on that offense. Bills

1113
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: lay in five and a half points of wood in

1114
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: the desert. It seems like a lot of would Greg

1115
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: I've been look at the axe out and chopped that dawn.

1116
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: You know. I you know, if you read my game picks,

1117
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: I pay attention to what's going on in terms of

1118
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: what you know it is expected, and I try to

1119
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: making a choice here who you know, and I've been

1120
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: riding the Dolphins three straight weeks. They've They've been fine.

1121
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: I get it. They're playing hard, they're playing well. You

1122
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: can do it again. Dolphins are too banged up. All right,

1123
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: let us move on. We snake back to Cessler. That

1124
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: is a long snake. His sound effect. Um, you're like,

1125
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: I am. I am taking Jets at uh Washington. I

1126
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: think I've covered the Redskins four or five times this year.

1127
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing it. I am interested in the Jets.

1128
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: I haven't tracked them obviously because of you, Dan on

1129
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: any Sunday Live. I wanted I feel like this is there.

1130
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: It's a gift to you, an early Christmas press, thank you,

1131
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: and what it is, Uh, well, if the Jets should

1132
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: handle this game, I want to show up. You know.

1133
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: It's like, well, here's the thing you've got, Dwayne Haskins.

1134
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Greg Williams should love the fact that Dwayne Haskins, in

1135
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: a very uh you know, paint by numbers offense with

1136
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: no creative folds to it, is your opponent this time around.

1137
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like that what was the Tracy

1138
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: Chapman song? If not now, then when how about that Jets?

1139
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: If wait, why not Sam Donald going in and having

1140
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: one of his better games this week, and the Levy

1141
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: on Bell who tells everyone, you know, I'm the hero

1142
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: of running backs because I held out and showed running

1143
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: backs how to get contracts. Well, you might also be

1144
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: showing certain running backs if you want to go sign

1145
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: that big money deal, you better be careful where it

1146
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: is because this is shaping up. And you may disagree

1147
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: with me as a lost campaign for Levy on Bell

1148
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: and you want to hope that it's it looks very

1149
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: different next year. This Jets team to me like Sam

1150
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: Donald and it's it's the same thing you could say

1151
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen. Some of these second

1152
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: year quarterbacks go have a game that's a signature game

1153
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: against a bad Redskins team on the road. Kenny Albert

1154
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: misidentified balal Pal as Levy on Bell at one point

1155
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: last week, and it made me sad because I understood

1156
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: like there wasn't much difference between the two. He was

1157
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: not moving well, he's he's very banged up about three

1158
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: or four weeks ago, savaging three point one yours per carry.

1159
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Their line is the is the I agree with you.

1160
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Redskins have an okay, pass rush here not timing again. Also,

1161
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: let me let me just say this about Levy on Bell.

1162
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: He certainly is not moving well right now. Um. I

1163
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: thought he was moving with juice when he got any

1164
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: chance early in the season, But the offensive line has

1165
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: been so bad that I think he's gotten beaten up

1166
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: to the point where he doesn't have that extra gear.

1167
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: So it's been hard to ever see whether or not

1168
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: he's still Levy on Bell because he's just playing behind

1169
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's I agree with you on that

1170
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: mark this idea that are you gonna take the biggest

1171
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: money or you're gonna take a very close look at

1172
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: the roster and especially the offensive line. But it's easy

1173
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: to say now in mid November, but when the Jets, um,

1174
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: we're putting together the team, it appeared that maybe the

1175
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: offensive line would be better, that Sam Donald would be

1176
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: a guy that would take a huge leap, that Adam

1177
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: Gaze could be a guy that would be very friendly

1178
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: to uh. Levy On Bell uh type player. And none

1179
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: of that has panned out this season. So I don't know.

1180
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: I think I imagine he'll be back next year. He's uh,

1181
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's made the difference on the

1182
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: offense that you expect. It feels like he's had about

1183
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: five thousand, uh three yard runs this year. That's what

1184
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: did you think? Dan? Of the Adam Gaze getting the

1185
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: typically dreaded but in this case seemed very real vote

1186
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: of confidence from Jets ownership. I believe that let's let's

1187
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: push pause on that, because I think that Christopher Johnson,

1188
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: the acting owner, he has a lot invested in Gaze

1189
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: because it was his higher, and it's such a bad

1190
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: look if you go one and done with your higher,

1191
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: especially when you're only the quote unquote nerve for X

1192
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: amount of time until Woody comes back in the into

1193
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: the fold from the UK, I thought it was an

1194
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: unnecessary thing to say, just because what are you gonna

1195
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: do if this thing gets even worse from now until

1196
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: New Year's It's it's not I don't know if it's unnecessary,

1197
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: but I certainly don't write it in pen. I wish

1198
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: I could remember the example, but there was one very

1199
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: recently where a very similar thing happened where a coach

1200
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: who got the vote of convince he's gonna be back

1201
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: next year got fired seven weeks later, and no one

1202
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: even cared or barely noticed because it had just spiraled

1203
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: so far out of control that like, you know, the

1204
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: world is gonna change in second weeks. No one's gonna

1205
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: go crazy. I get it, though, if they win a

1206
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: couple of games and nothing crazy happens, he'll be back.

1207
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: I would trust that. I do wonder though this could

1208
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: be a tough spot for them. I mean, the Redskins

1209
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: have a pretty good defensive line. Ian Ias has been

1210
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: playing great, Dron payne Um whom I forgotten, Jonathan Allen.

1211
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: That group against the Jets offensive line, they could cause

1212
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: enough problems. And in the Redskins have kept games close.

1213
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: That's partly why they've you know, gone so quickly. They

1214
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: lose by like ten every week. And I'll say this

1215
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: for Dwayne Haskins. He throw He had about three throws

1216
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: in that game where he showed great timing anticipation, where

1217
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: he threw the guy open, where he threw it well

1218
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: before the guy made their breaks. He you talk about West,

1219
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: you know there's this quarterbacks that need to see it

1220
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: to throw it, like Ryan Tannehill and Cutler. He's not

1221
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: one of those guys. So that's that's one of the

1222
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: reasons why he was drafted in the first round. Maybe

1223
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: after the bye week they'll they'll coach him up and

1224
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: be a little more aggressive. I mean, they barely let

1225
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: him do anything, but he had a couple of throws

1226
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: that you you saw and you were like, Okay, Dayne

1227
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: Haskins should note Darius guy Speck for this game too,

1228
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: And we should also know because I don't think we

1229
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: mentioned that. It was announced that Haskins will start for

1230
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: the rest of the season in Washington, so you could

1231
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: end that merry go around. Well, let's see how that go.

1232
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Talk about this. That could change. I mean, I mean,

1233
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. Just keep him in there

1234
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: at this point because you could be in play to

1235
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: draft a different quarter if you really wanted to, depending

1236
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: on who's there. Well, yeah, that's how the that's how

1237
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is someone we're talking about with flowery terms

1238
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: at this point. I will take the there's only two

1239
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: two choices here. Let's go Cowboys Lions. Uh the Jeff

1240
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: d Jeff Driscoll, you know, because uh one, Jeff Driscoll

1241
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: this close to a perfect game West game out there

1242
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: for yeah, it's not it's not terrible, and and a

1243
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: blooper over the shortstops head. It doesn't, boy, I mean

1244
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: it was sort of. I don't have it. I didn't

1245
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: have a strike. I mean, I don't have to watch Driscoll. Now,

1246
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: you know what. Driscoll not definitely, but Stafford hasn't practiced.

1247
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: In the tone of the way they're talking about Stafford

1248
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: makes you wonder he might not be back for a while.

1249
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: We could be seeing Driscoll on Thanksgiving, so get ready

1250
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: am on the West coast. Then here's the thing. Here's

1251
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: the thing with Driscoll. Though he's not he's not an

1252
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: effective quarterback, he's not terrible to watch because he's so athletic. Hey,

1253
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: they they put up a hundred and fifty more yards

1254
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: and the Bears did last think he's got the worst

1255
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: accuracy of any quarterback on any much not much of

1256
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: a thrower. But uh, maybe they'll keep letting him run

1257
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: around a little more, and man, he could be one

1258
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: of the best running quarterbacks in the league. I want

1259
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: to see the Cowboys put one on him, though. I mean,

1260
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: that's why I want to watch it is is watch

1261
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: this cowboy's office, uh convincingly when they're healthy. There's no

1262
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: reason they like that because, yeah, Mark, you were saying

1263
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald, the Jets put it on a bad

1264
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: red suit. Well, the Jets are bad, so it's like,

1265
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see that. But the Cowboys, Cowboys

1266
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: should be good. West. You you talk about uh d

1267
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: O d v O A and the way to deal

1268
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: d v O A and all that. It's usually I

1269
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: bring up bring up v O A typically, But they're

1270
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: still even now five and four, I think top five

1271
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: or thereabouts in both those categories, so that the machines

1272
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: are telling us they are good. And then you look

1273
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: at the record five and four. At some point, something's

1274
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: got to give here. Either the machines wrong West or

1275
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: the team's wrong, and we're gonna find out. And and

1276
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: if they somehow, if if the Cowboys somehow play the

1277
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: lines the way the Bears did last week, which was

1278
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: way closer than it should have been, that's gonna be

1279
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't care what the DVOS says. That's gonna be

1280
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: a major red flag. Go whip up on the lines here,

1281
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: go whip them West. Everybody's right. D v O as

1282
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: right that play to play. They're one of the strongest

1283
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: teams in the league. But skeptics are right that they

1284
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: can't finish in close games and that that hurts their record.

1285
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: They have to show out of the finishing close games.

1286
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: And Gregg has gotten on Jakeson Garrett for his game management.

1287
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: They're losing some games because they're too conservative, and they're

1288
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: also losing games because their defense is a shadow of

1289
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: what it was last year. I give Garrett some credit

1290
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: for saying, you know, during the week, you know, we

1291
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: don't wanna we don't want to get trapped in trying

1292
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: to be, you know, tough. I'm butchering the way he

1293
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 1: said it for toughness sake. Essentially, we we should He

1294
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: was copying to the fact that they ran the ball

1295
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: a little too much, that they were trying to play

1296
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: bullyball when the when the game in front of them

1297
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: really tells him that's not what you should be doing.

1298
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: Breaking news here on the Cleveland Browns Beat. Oh what

1299
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: does that mean? Antonio Callaway has been waived? Is that

1300
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: a big surprise to me? That jumped out of me.

1301
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, he was late to the game last week,

1302
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: he was benched, deactivated. They've had issues with him. He's

1303
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: a suspended player who has you know, known past problems

1304
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: and I think he probably has tried their patients too much. Well,

1305
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: there's on field character and there's off field character, and

1306
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: he's checking both boxes because he made way too many

1307
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: mistakes on the field in addition to the off field problems.

1308
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: As a hard knocks afficionado, Um, he jumps out to

1309
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: me because all they could talk about was the talent

1310
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: on this guy who's a fourth round pick last year,

1311
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: his speed, his game breaking ability. But yes, all those

1312
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: red flags off the field. Apparently it got to the point.

1313
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he had five eighties, six and five as

1314
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: a rookie, but hadn't done anything. And these are the

1315
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: things I think Freddie Kitchens has to do to have

1316
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: to show, not only to gain control or really establish

1317
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: himself in that locker room, put to put it out

1318
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: there in the public. I hey, I got this under control.

1319
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: To his own ownership group, I'm gonna if these guys

1320
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: are out of line, I'm gonna make sure this is

1321
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: a locker room that does it the right way. I

1322
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: feel like that's been one of the challenges he's been

1323
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: facing the season. Kitchens came out very strongly about Callaway

1324
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: this week, and whenever he's in that circle of players

1325
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: where when something like this happens. You wonder what they

1326
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: know or what they know is coming down the pike

1327
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: for player X, who has had issues before, suspensions and

1328
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: all sorts of problems. Do you have the patent at

1329
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Sessler fear that he could pull like a Chris Carter

1330
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: type move. Do you think he has that talent? No,

1331
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm not, like I can't really. I have enough to

1332
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: worry about in life to have that. You know what

1333
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll say, it's as a side note to that, I

1334
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: really enjoy watching I think Josh Gordon looks awesome in

1335
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: a Seahawks uniform and the Patriots. Yeah, I'm happy for

1336
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon at this point. That doesn't hurt. You cannot

1337
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: cling to this stuff. Cleveland should take care of their

1338
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: own business. How about that? My charring Mark Sessler like

1339
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: it's got too many other things to deal with? Cowboys Lions.

1340
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: If Stafford was playing, I would have looked in the

1341
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: mirror and locked up the Cowboys. But I can't can't

1342
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: do it. That's great, that's great mirror work. I'm fired

1343
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: today was close it out West? Uh. That leads me

1344
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: with the Broncos and Vikings, and the Vikings I think

1345
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: right now have an issue in their secondary, but I'm

1346
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: not sure if Brandon Allen is the guy to exploit that,

1347
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: although I do think Cortonland Sutton can really toast Davia

1348
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: Roads if that's the matchup, because Davia Rhodes is still

1349
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: moving a step or too slow this year and Courtland

1350
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: Sutton has just really impressed me all year long as

1351
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: a legitimate number one. He and DJ Charker, those two

1352
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: young guys who I really think have stepped forward and

1353
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: claim that status. Allen wasn't afraid to throw the ball.

1354
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: They they didn't need him to do it too much.

1355
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: If nothing else, the Broncos fans, I think can see

1356
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: some breakout players in Sutton, Justin Simmons. I think if

1357
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: you were a fan of the Broncos, you wanted to

1358
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: see Philip Lindsay backup and Alexander Johnson. You want to

1359
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: see Lindsay back up of his offensive rookie of the

1360
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: year because I was so out of nowhere. But I

1361
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: think he's looked just as good this year. They want

1362
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: to balance the carries. That's fine, He's very valuable as

1363
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: a rotation guy. Go go, go keep this game interesting, Broncos.

1364
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know I finally got something from no offense

1365
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: against the Browns, which you're waiting all year for. I

1366
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: thought that Minnesota did a nice job of counteracting the

1367
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: pass rush against the Cowboys, and you know this is

1368
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: not the first game they've done this with Cousins dumping

1369
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: the ball up to Dalvin Cook, who absolutely ate up

1370
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: Dallas during the first half of that game last week.

1371
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: And Dalvin Cook, like just week after week, is that guy.

1372
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: He is just so so dangerous. He's broken more tackles

1373
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: as a receiver than any running back in the league.

1374
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: I think he's third overall among running backs. He's on

1375
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: pace to have the the highest yards from scrimmage in

1376
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: a season since Adrian Peterson's m v P year of

1377
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Now McCaffrey's actually is ahead of

1378
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: his pace, but that's how good Dalvin Cook has been. Unbelievable.

1379
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: This has all this feels like one of those we

1380
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: talked about West the other side of this. But when

1381
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: they're at home, it's an early game against the bad team,

1382
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: and the Vikings are just gonna whip. It's gonna be

1383
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, never seven late in the second quarter, never

1384
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: ever pick against the Vikings in their dome. Just don't

1385
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: do it. They're a different team and their two edge

1386
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: rushers Everson Griffin and Daniel Hunter in that building. In

1387
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: that building was like having Joey and Nick Boso on

1388
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: your team saying I should flip my Denver keeping it

1389
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: to a nine point. You know, I think this is

1390
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: this is the biggest lock of a blowout. I see.

1391
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: I think you couldn't look in the mirror. The Vikings

1392
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: in the stadium are just a different team. I take

1393
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: a look in the mirror. I saw nothing, so I

1394
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: walked away over the Although Raiders Bengals is a lock

1395
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: of a blowout, I would think you saw nothing in

1396
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: the mirror. That's that raises concerns of its own. All right, Uh,

1397
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: let us now move to the primetime game starting with

1398
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean again, Greg said it all and I agree

1399
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: with him. Uh the Bears at Rams. This is a

1400
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: game that should have been flexed out. It wasn't, so

1401
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: we will see uh Mitch Trobinsky in prime time on

1402
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: the road. Oh, that just sounds bad. That sounds like

1403
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: a disaster, because even even after they went over the

1404
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: lines last week, which snapped their losing streak, if you

1405
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: take out the three touchdown drives that kind of book

1406
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: ended halftime. It was another disastrous um performance, especially many

1407
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: factor in how bad the lines have been on defense

1408
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: this year. So not a ton of growth on the

1409
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: Bears offense even in a win. Uh. I'd be most

1410
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: interesting Greg in seeing how Jared Goff and the Rams

1411
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: offense looks, because it's getting grim real grim. Yeah, that

1412
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: was there, Nader so far last week in Pittsburgh. I mean,

1413
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm enough to watch, right, I'm not sure if embarrassed

1414
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: is the right word about whatever it is that. You know,

1415
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: they have a lot of pride in their offense, and

1416
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: they had three points in fifteen drives and I think

1417
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: that they had to been hurting after that to get

1418
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: that dominated. And if you go back to last year,

1419
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: this game, which which took place at the beginning of December,

1420
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: was kind of the the true beginning of when it

1421
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 1: started to fall apart for this offense because the Bears

1422
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: and the Lions who did it the week before, but

1423
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: the Bears really had that front that that hurt the

1424
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: outside zone that the Rams love to do, and they

1425
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: held them to six points. And the thing that killed

1426
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,879
Speaker 1: me last week was Jared Goff when he did have protection,

1427
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: and I know the offensive line was terrible, but the

1428
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: times he did have protection, you know that it's like

1429
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: he felt that he he had one play to Girly

1430
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: where they had a screen set up and he just

1431
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: threw a fast ball and there was no one near him.

1432
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: It was just kind of a young, panicked type of throws.

1433
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: And there was a few of those where they were

1434
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: just broken plays. They were ugly where the ball was

1435
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: nowhere near the receiver or people were confused, and that's

1436
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: stuff you didn't expect to see out of the Rams.

1437
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: We've been harping on their offensive line since September and

1438
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: since then they've lost three guys. They're right tackles out

1439
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: their centers for the year and you know Joseph Nope

1440
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Nope was was injured earlier in the year. So this

1441
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: is a makeshift offensive line, right. I thought about locking

1442
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: this up and for which side for the Rams, and

1443
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: it's actually it's kind of crazy. It's almost on the

1444
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: edge of that wouldn't even be allowable under my rules

1445
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: in terms of being a one possession you know game.

1446
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: The Rams are pretty heavy favorites here, uh, because they're

1447
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: two good defenses, and I think people are thinking, you know,

1448
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: these defenses are equal. Really they've been both top five

1449
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: six defenses, and Rabinsky against a good defense is a disaster.

1450
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: But who knows. This could be a game where it's

1451
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: a turnover, or it's a special teams player, it's a

1452
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: bounce of the ball. So I don't I don't even

1453
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: feel good enough to say the Rams are definitely I'm

1454
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: not really buying that win over the Lions as a

1455
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: get well games right. They had two twenty two yards

1456
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: in that game. The fewest the Lions had given up

1457
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: before that was three seventy. The go watch the final

1458
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: couple drives that Chicago had to. I mean it didn't,

1459
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: it didn't last. Chase Daniel might play in this game,

1460
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: this with the with the prime time lights on and

1461
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: Trabinsky being as bad as he's been against the good defense,

1462
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: that and the and the Rams really need this win.

1463
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: And I always, you know, I put a lot into that.

1464
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: When these teams that are hanging around five hundred that

1465
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: are good teams or teams on the you know, right

1466
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: on the bubble, they gotta go one way or the other.

1467
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: I think the Rams to deliver a big performance here,

1468
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: and Trabinsky flops. Let's address some other issues with the

1469
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: Bear since we talked about tri whisky. Every week, they

1470
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: are averaging their fewest rushing yards per game since nineteen seventy.

1471
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: They can't run. They can't run the ball. Uh we

1472
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: know that. O. J. Howard is perhaps the most disappointing

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: fantasy tight end in the league. He has two twenty

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Speaker 1: three yards. The entire Bears tight end room combined has

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: two d and twenty three yards. Trey Burton doesn't even

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: have a hundred. James Daniels, the guy they drafted in

1477
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: the second round to play center, had to be shifted

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01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: to guard last week because he wasn't playing center. Adam Sheen,

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Speaker 1: the tight end they drafted in the second round with

1480
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: was a healthy scratch last week. You're making me want

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: to lock up the ring. Nick Williams, a journeyman defensive

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,879
Speaker 1: end who's playing because the Kim Hicks isn't is injured,

1483
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: has more sacks than Khalil Mack this year. This team

1484
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: has tons of problems. It's not just Mr Business right

1485
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: and on the offensive side, no tight end action, you

1486
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,520
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. What's tough for on a young quarterback?

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: Then no security blanket at the tight end position, and

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01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: the running game has been Anne McK week after week

1489
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: total disaster. Sorry Bears fans, that was yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: They know, they know, they know, they know. They didn't

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: get fun out of last week. It's been a rough

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: season for them, and they haven't given up. Rank rowan

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: article this week saying the Bears have a better chance

1494
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and the Rams for all that

1495
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: stuff we just talked about, and then do what if

1496
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: they beat the Rams? It's pretty close because they'll both

1497
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: be five and five. They have things that they can do.

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01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: This is a big game for the Rams. I actually

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: haven't given up on them as a potential wild card

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Speaker 1: team because their defense is so good. Um, Like, I

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to believe is that they're going

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01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: to find a way to get to ten or eleven

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: wins the Los Angeles Rams. I don't think it's that

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: crazy yet. There. I'm not giving up. They've it's been

1505
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: it's been bad. You're not gonna you're gonna play Pittsburgh.

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,440
Speaker 1: Everything that means though what we were not getting Minnesota,

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: We're not getting Philly or Dallas, or we're not getting

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01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: a team like the Seattle in the playoffs in place

1509
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: of a Rams team. That's not that fun to watch

1510
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 1: things happen Monday night football. The Kansas City Chiefs six

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: and four shot themselves on the foot against the Titans

1512
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: last week. You know, I had about seven thousand yards

1513
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: of off ens around the field the entire game, and

1514
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: somehow they get beat by the Titans. Uh. Now they

1515
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: welcome the Chargers four and six. The Chargers seemed like

1516
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 1: they were getting themselves back on track and then they

1517
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: do not get it done in Oakland, UH last Thursday.

1518
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: So there are four and six. So it is a

1519
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 1: absolute must win game mark for the Chargers. But the

1520
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes, who could be healthier another week

1521
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: removed from his knee injury. It seems like a very

1522
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: tough spot. Oh, Mahomes moved well and looked pretty good,

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: and I the one area that a little hitchen is

1524
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: gidea up. It seems it's not I'm not saying like

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: one Mahomes, but the rest almost helped him with some

1526
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: of the ankle stuff and foot stuff that was going

1527
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: on earlier in the year. It was impressive to watch

1528
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry ripped through Kansas City's defense with big holes,

1529
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,480
Speaker 1: and I wonder if that's if you're if you're the Chargers,

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: you don't try something similar there because you can score

1531
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: on Kansas City, you can move the ball, you can

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: sustain drives and keep my homes off the field. That said,

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Speaker 1: a week ago, we were talking about the Chargers as

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: the a f C surge team that's gonna answer everyone's

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: problems down the stretch, and they, to me, just cannot

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: get out of their own way. I know they're banged up,

1537
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: but you fall to Oakland, you lose this one in

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01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: your home stadium on Monday night with a crowd that's

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01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: probably gonna be in Mexico City, Mexico. I was gonna

1540
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: say that seems like it would be Chiefs fans in

1541
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: that Charger stadium, but it won't be the case. I mean,

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01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: they had a great win, as we know, at home

1543
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: against the Packers, and it's not a sin to lose

1544
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: by two points in the black hole. So I think

1545
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: it took wind out of their sales, no doubt, but

1546
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ready to say that that it was.

1547
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: It was the wrong thing to say that they can

1548
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: make a charge, but they have to win this game.

1549
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: What losing to the Raiders men is now they have

1550
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs otherwise they're pretty much shocked, right

1551
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel that comfortable locking against them.

1552
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to and take the Chiefs use I you know,

1553
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers their ceiling is very high, and

1554
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead, you know, last December

1555
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: in in a big spot. But this is not that

1556
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: same Chargers team. And ultimately, I gotta trust what I've

1557
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: seen out of their defense over the course of you know,

1558
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 1: ten weeks. They're a little healthier now, certainly on the edges,

1559
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: and that could give problems. But they're just not a

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01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: good defense. And if you're not a good defense and

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01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: you're going up against this Chief's offense that's as healthy

1562
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: as it's been all year. I just don't trust them

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01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: to keep it under forty. And it's it's just a

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01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: hard way to win if you want, if you're trying

1565
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: to just run the ball with Gordon and Ekeler the

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Speaker 1: whole time. Interesting, I am with you, but also the

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs haven't haven't quite put it together this year. It's

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01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: in a neutral sight, uh, you know, the air quality

1569
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: and and the height of where it is and all

1570
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: that stuff like it could be wild game. There's way

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: too much overreaction to the Chiefs lost last week on

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of fluke plays. And we all know from

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Speaker 1: Greg and the Patriots stands that run defense doesn't matter,

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01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: So run defense at all. Um. They have there two

1575
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: of their best old linemen coming back, Eric Fisher who's

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: been out, and they've been playing Cam Irving at left tackle,

1577
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: who was one of the worst left tackles in the league.

1578
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: Uh D. Varney Tardif is coming back. Chris Jones is healthy.

1579
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelsey

1580
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: are just too damn good for anyone to stop them.

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01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: So they're probably going to the a f C Championship

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl. That's now. That's basically right. I

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01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: was gonna take them is I didn't. I wasn't worried

1584
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: about that. Jason Garrett's bold, but Chris Wesling is defense

1585
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Yes, I said, they're trying to have people

1586
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: run on them. I think there is uh school of thoughts,

1587
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: some real stuff. There's a school of thoughts. I know

1588
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: people into running and you and obviously there's like a

1589
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: breaking point. You don't want it to just destroy your team,

1590
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: but you would rather have me thing not so easy

1591
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter that you just let anyone run on your right.

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying, I'm saying like you'd rather give

1593
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: out five yards per carry than you would, you know,

1594
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: seven yards per jackson and mark ingram leaving footprints on

1595
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: your back. Either, let's get out of the lab. It's late,

1596
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: um and that's okay. So that's interesting. So we have

1597
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: here's the lock situation. By the way, here the lock standings,

1598
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: Sess and Greg tie the top uh Lock Mountain at

1599
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: six and four. It's disgraceful. The old Zeus ser riding

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: a five game winning streak, is now five and five.

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01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: The game out West three and seven. Speaking of must

1602
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: win games, did you count out you got a full

1603
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: game for the drift goll Lock. I thought that was

1604
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: just like a half. Well he called it before. I'm

1605
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: on a one game winning street game. You're fine, bro.

1606
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: By the way, the Reddit board seven and three, Nice job, Reddit,

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01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: Nice job they get they're gonna have to send the

1608
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: trophy to just like Reddit headquarters. They're gonna open it

1609
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: up in the lobby and be like, we have to

1610
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: call the bomb squad. What's happening here? Um? Anyway, so

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Mark and I have the Saints, and Greg and West

1612
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: have the Chiefs. All right, we will be back, um

1613
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: well tonight of course Thursday night recap uh, and then

1614
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday we will recap all the games that we

1615
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: just previewed. Um. So that's fun. It's just fun. How

1616
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: the wheel turns. It's a real joy. It's it's yeah,

1617
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: it feels good. It feels good to do this show

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01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: every week. Let's uh, let's enjoy the weekend. Mark, good

1619
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: luck tonight, thank you. Let's have a nice weekend, have

1620
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: safe weekend, and then come and do it again on Sunday.

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: Sounds like good plan. All right, I'll see you game

1622
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: debut and I will be what did what were your words? No,

1623
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: none of that hands us like signature content, signature credit.

1624
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: I was giving you in this otherwise derogatory sequences. That's

1625
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: why it was a little confusing and scary. It's always

1626
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: I always enjoy getting into Dan's mind and seeing how

1627
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: he really sees me. Scary place. Let's go this his

1628
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: dad hands as signing off for Quiet Star, the old Boss.

1629
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: It's my show, but no one else gets it. The

1630
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: old boss y'ally was behind the glass and the moment

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Speaker 1: Bil Sunday Night and middle in Anything Stan