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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecop Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast live from the quarantine studios of my home office.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone's staying safe out there there. Hope everyone

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Speaker 1: is uh is getting by. And for those of you

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Speaker 1: listening that are on the front lines, whether we're at

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Speaker 1: a grocery store, health professional, whatever you do, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think we all, uh, we all can come together

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Speaker 1: and say a collective thank you. I appreciate it, and

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Speaker 1: we just keep on swinging and we'll get through this

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Speaker 1: march and uh, you know sports or sports are halted.

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Speaker 1: Thank god, the draft is still within I guess twenty

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Speaker 1: four days from today. Uh, so we have something to

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Speaker 1: look forward to. Thank you Roger Goodell for hosting the draft,

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Speaker 1: because without it, I don't know we'd be in trouble

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Speaker 1: for some content. But there's a lot to dive into today.

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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the big conversations going on in

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Speaker 1: football is these general managers are mad that the drafts

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Speaker 1: being held. Have some thoughts there. Jason Light, the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers general manager, was on television this morning and

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Speaker 1: uh spoke about Tom Brady and actually had a kind

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Speaker 1: of an interesting comment that I want to dive into

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Speaker 1: just some other stories. Then of course the Middlecoff mailbag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is UH is my handle, so slide

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Speaker 1: up into my Instagram d m s. It's also my

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle. And any question you want, we we are.

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Speaker 1: We're wide open for questions. And UH, I need you.

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Speaker 1: I need you to help carry me. There's a team

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Speaker 1: effort here. This is your guys show. Also, I guess,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't yet, if you could go to the

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Speaker 1: Apple or iTunes and leave a review, I would greatly

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Obviously you already subscribed to the podcast if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this. But let's start with this. This

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Speaker 1: coronavirus overall sucks. None of us, if we could choose,

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Speaker 1: would have this virus exist. It is throwing all of

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Speaker 1: our lives for a loop in some form or some fashion,

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Speaker 1: all of us in a weird way or a creature

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Speaker 1: most artistic people, they're still pretty routine oriented. Now on

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Speaker 1: the high end, you know football coach or a general

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Speaker 1: very very routine oriented. Some of those, like podcasting, little

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Speaker 1: open ended. I can pick and choose when to do it.

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Speaker 1: But I still have specific things I do every day.

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Speaker 1: If you run a business, depending on whether you're deemed

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Speaker 1: essential right now or not, your life's thrown out. And

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Speaker 1: even if you are an essential business, you're clearly taking

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Speaker 1: operations that take the temperature of everyone that comes in.

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Speaker 1: My little brother who just had a baby. His wife

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Speaker 1: was going to get, you know, your typical check up

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Speaker 1: a month or two months in, and you gotta take

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Speaker 1: your temperature before you go in. It's these curveballs are

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Speaker 1: coming every day for us that we did not expect.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, that's life. That's just the reality

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Speaker 1: of when these a pandemic hits or when something that

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Speaker 1: we can't predict happens. This isn't, this isn't. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's not the first time in a long time a

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Speaker 1: us before, and we always figure out ways to adapt.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to know? We would like to keep

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Speaker 1: business going as usual, especially in a bull economy, when

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Speaker 1: business is going well for a lot of people. No

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Speaker 1: the cards we were dealt. Corona dealt us a shitty

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Speaker 1: And last week Roger Goodell gave a comment and the

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Speaker 1: comment was I don't even have it in front of me,

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Speaker 1: but it basically said, hey, general managers, shut up, no

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Speaker 1: and deal with it. And you know my first react,

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Speaker 1: had anonymous GM today saying, like, what about freedom of

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Speaker 1: think that's the point here. It's that Colin talked about

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Speaker 1: Mix it up, figure it out. Because the draft has

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Speaker 1: had happening. And I don't want to hear any of

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Speaker 1: this is Tony Boselli's and icy you like this is

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Speaker 1: a real thing. There's no more denying you like it was,

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Speaker 1: just it's impacting everybody. So if you have to kind

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Speaker 1: luckily in two thousand twenty, this isn't technologies on your side.

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Speaker 1: You can bring these guys in. I saw the NFL

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Speaker 1: is allowing three three hour skype calls with every player

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Speaker 1: not happening now. But you're still able to do something

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Speaker 1: Peter King and their MMQB in their articles that some

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Speaker 1: of these draft rooms, like Chris Ballard the Colts do

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Speaker 1: a really good job of tweeting out videos. It's not

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Speaker 1: It's basically like a ten to fifteen minute series leading

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Speaker 1: know what. Everyone's playing by these rules. It's an equal

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Speaker 1: Every building's shut because if you did not do that,

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Speaker 1: draft rooms. Some draft rooms have every scout you've seen

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Speaker 1: Now Belichick's equipped for a pandemic just because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: for dummies. That's basically what YouTube is. Any question you

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Speaker 1: help dummies out, and football people aren't necessarily dummies, depending

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Speaker 1: and figure it out. Because this is the new reality

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Speaker 1: the information that you had two weeks ago and it

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Speaker 1: he can see better. If people wanted James, they'd be

428
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Speaker 1: all over him right now. Nobody wants them yet Tampa

429
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: new worst case scenario, they could bring him back, you know,

430
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: probably win eight nine games. They could just cut down

431
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers. But at the end of the day,

432
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: they needed Tom to like them, and Tom did. And

433
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: like sometimes an internet dating or just real life dating,

434
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Speaker 1: you need two people to kind of have the same

435
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Speaker 1: frame of mind. Tampa Bay desperately wanted to like Tom Brady.

436
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: They were lucky. Tom Brady desperately wanted to like a

437
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: situation that fit him logistically, geographically, obviously offensively, with the

438
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: wide receivers and the tight ends, and then he can

439
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: sell himself. You know, there's no state income tax. They

440
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: will guarantee two years. I wouldn't say it was a

441
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: match made in heaven, but for Tom if you did

442
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: have to transition, given how many teams currently have quarterbacks,

443
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: pretty ideal scenario that this team was available, right because

444
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 1: if you look at the Tennessee Titans, you go, well,

445
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: they're a very run heavy team. Their best wide receiver

446
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: is was a rookie. Uh Delaney just bounced. You know,

447
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's technically, I mean, it's franchise tag, but you

448
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: can't really go anywhere. Is he gonna be happy? Is

449
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: he gonna hold out? They let their right tackle go.

450
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: They're in a little bit of transition despite being a

451
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: really well run and good team. We're Tampa. All the

452
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: key guys are in a contract, two tight ends, two

453
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Coach isn't going anywhere. They need some offensive

454
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Speaker 1: line help, but they have some solid defensive guys. It

455
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of made some sense. Sometimes you just need things

456
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: to aligned, and things just kind of aligned, you know.

457
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Speaker 1: Somewhat you could argue they're both a little desperate. Tampa

458
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: hadn't been in the playoffs in twelve years. Uh, desperately

459
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: just want some buzz kind of you could argue one

460
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Speaker 1: of the most irrelevant teams in the league. Tom Brady

461
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: is kind of looking around like, you know, I don't

462
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Speaker 1: really have that many options. Plus I I kind of

463
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Speaker 1: have some things that I want to do. I don't

464
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Speaker 1: want to go play on the West Coast. So Boom

465
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: charges Raiders. Not really, you know, on the table, I

466
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: couldn't commit to Rabel and Boom he signs Ryan Taniel.

467
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: That's not an option anymore. Where the hell am I

468
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: gonna go? So it Tom was. You could argue as

469
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Speaker 1: desperate as Tampa Bay was to sign them. And you

470
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: know what, what's gonna be fun about this little match

471
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: is it could be good. It could be great. It

472
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Speaker 1: could not. You know, sometimes when two desperate people get

473
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Speaker 1: married or get together and start dating, I mean, you

474
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: have a great honeymoon period, but eventually, right, all relationships,

475
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: they all get tested. Right, it becomes when you first

476
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: start dating someone or you first getting married, sex is awesome.

477
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: You love each other, and as time goes, you know

478
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: how your actual relationship is, how much is your friend.

479
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: You know that they're gonna have to learn on the

480
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Speaker 1: fly here. There's really not gonna be a huge honeymoon

481
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Speaker 1: period for Tampa Bay and Tom Brady. They were tinder dating. Uh,

482
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: they both were kind of desperate for each other. And

483
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: now we're gonna find out if this thing works. I

484
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: would bet on them having some success. But the more

485
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: and more I've thought about it, it's gonna be a

486
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: little more challenging probably than most of us just in

487
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: the football world. Just assume no offseason offenses that aren't

488
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: a perfect match made in heaven. And again, the reason

489
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: they got together was a little bit more out of

490
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Speaker 1: desperation than anyone wants to admit. Okay, let's bang out

491
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Speaker 1: a couple of stories before the Middlecoff mailbag, and just

492
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: some things that I saw that happened this weekend. Right now,

493
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: there has been corona case at the Vegas Stadium and

494
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Speaker 1: at the l A Stadium, And now I get construction

495
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Speaker 1: is still quote unquote considered an essential business. I do

496
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Speaker 1: feel it's gonna be hard if corona is taken off

497
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Speaker 1: of the rates in which is taken off when there

498
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Speaker 1: are a lot of people around. How these stadiums are

499
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: gonna avoid shutting down? Now, I there are no rules

500
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: in Nevada, but they are a couple more cases away

501
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: from I mean, m G M all the casino shut down,

502
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: So how are they going to avoid it? In l A?

503
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: California's rules are just insane. We are, by far, i'd say,

504
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: the most progressive state in terms of getting out in

505
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: front of it. So I understand it's all political and

506
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: you can pay people off, and these two teams want

507
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: this done. Now. The reality is is a football season

508
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: depending on who you believe, and I don't. I don't

509
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Speaker 1: pretend to know the future. Plus only March thirty, so

510
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: when people ask what do you think is gonna happen

511
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: this fall? Guys, I'm just trying to make it to

512
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: like first week April. Can can we just get to

513
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe like May before we start having takes on the

514
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Speaker 1: football season. Let's just I I can't go there yet,

515
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: but I do know just the construction with how many

516
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: people you need to be working at these construction sites.

517
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: If the corona is impacting these people, and both sites

518
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: have already had a case. It feels like there are

519
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: another case or two away from just getting shut down. Now,

520
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: the California one would probably get shut down before the

521
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Speaker 1: Vegas one. Maybe the Vegas one. They could have fifteen

522
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Speaker 1: Corona cases and no one would care because the state

523
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Speaker 1: is to invest in the state paid for it. Where

524
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: in l A. It's a little out of Cronky's hands.

525
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: He's cutting the checks. But you know, is he in

526
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: bed with the politicians. I'm sure he is a little bit.

527
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: But eventually, if guys get sick, there's only so much

528
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you can do. Uh, Clowney, I saw a report that

529
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: Clowney might not sign until training camp. Why is it

530
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: always something with this guy? It's like every freaking guy

531
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: that's a decent player and a good players already signed. Clowney,

532
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Just whatever? The best offer is that.

533
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: There's not some magical offer coming down the pipe. It

534
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: is what it is. You are who you are. So

535
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Speaker 1: if someone's offering you a sixty seventy million dollars, guaranteed

536
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: you're not getting ninety. Hell, I wouldn't give you eighty.

537
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 1: Some of these teams are kind of crazy to give

538
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: you seventy. You just two hit or miss of a

539
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: player very talented, but there there's a reason you're unsigned.

540
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Think about this. The hardest position to find beside quarterback

541
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: are sweet pass rushers and Clowney the number one overall.

542
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Pick a guy that's had multiple you know, ten plus

543
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's like nine and a half, but it's

544
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Speaker 1: a really good player refuses to sign for what his

545
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: market value is. The market told you what your value was, Clowney,

546
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: The market's already spoken every team. There's never been more

547
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: money than was just on the on the open market

548
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: three weeks ago or two weeks ago, wherever, whenever free

549
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: agency happened, that they showed you the offers that you

550
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: got offered, that that was the market, and a lot

551
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: of that money has dried up now. So I don't

552
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: know what you're holding out hope for that, like some

553
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: imaginary teams just all of a sudden gonna have some

554
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: huge money. Now, maybe a guy gets hurt or not.

555
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: But just because a guy gets hurt doesn't mean if

556
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: I lose a player in early August, I'm just all

557
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden gonna give Clowney eighty million dollars to

558
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Speaker 1: sign with me. I don't think now. Maybe I would

559
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: overpay for one year, but why wouldn't he have taken

560
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: some of the multi year deals that were on the table.

561
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes these guy, I don't know if it's the guy,

562
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: the players, their agents, They just make poor decisions. Levian

563
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: Bell did it a couple of years ago, Melvin Gordon

564
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: did it last year, and I think Klan is getting

565
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: bad advice. I did a little mock draft on the

566
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Speaker 1: athletic little site that I uh I worked for on

567
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: the side, and I thought, I just bang out a

568
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: little bit. We'll just go team by team. I did

569
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: the top thirteen picks again. I ended with the forty niners,

570
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: the Bengals Joe Burrow, pretty no brainer for the second

571
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: overall pick. In In my mock draft, I had the

572
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: Redskins trading back and the Dolphins who traded Laramie Tunzil,

573
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: who traded Minka Fitzpatrick, who have been looking for Dan

574
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Marino since Dan Marino walked away, desperately need a start quarterback,

575
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: and if TWA checks out, I haven't picking two up.

576
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: There there's a chance they like Herbert more. But if

577
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: I was them, I would be willing to trade maybe

578
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: pick twenty six in the second round pick to get

579
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: up and ensure I get the guy I cannot be

580
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: passed in the draft. Whoever my second quarterback is on

581
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the board, because obviously Joe Burrow is gonna be gone.

582
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: I can't let that guy fall past me. I have

583
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: to land that guy. And if I'm the Redskins, I

584
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I need so much work, so much help. If I

585
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: can acquire multiple first round picks, like pick five, pick

586
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: in a second round pick just to move back three spots,

587
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna end up with a really good player.

588
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: Any like John Audie pass on Chase Young, well, if

589
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: they trade Trent Williams. They desperately need a left tackle,

590
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: and you could argue the three most important positions quarterback,

591
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: left tackle, or right tackle. They're really important to and

592
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: pass rushers. So if I the Lions would end up

593
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: with Chase Young, it would be the gift from God.

594
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: If the Miami Dolphins go up to two, the Lions,

595
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: who had only the Dolphins had less sacks last year

596
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: than the Detroit Lions, desperately need a good pass rusher.

597
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: They get Chase Young. The New York Giants, who love

598
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: size and speed. Historically the Michael stray Hands, the Kiwa Nukahs,

599
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: the j Pps, the Justin Tucks. They love like Eric Flowers.

600
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: They're enamored with size and length. To me, Isaiah Simmons

601
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: just it would be the guy that's who I would

602
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: go with over an offensive lineman. And then the Redskins

603
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: take the offensive tackle backed in from Louisville. The dude

604
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: was like three seventy pounds, who rans the five eleven,

605
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: who's just a physical freak. You get him with Ron

606
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: Rivery and you play bullyball. Chargers take Justin Herbert. Uh.

607
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: They clearly need a quarterback. Tyrod Taylor is a marginal

608
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: starter at best, and they need a little juice going

609
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: into the new stadium. The Carolina Panthers end up with Oduka.

610
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: I think it's how you say his name in the

611
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: corner from Ohio State, which is he's a star. I mean,

612
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: he's a legitimate cover corner. But I know this. If

613
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: I was running a team and I think, let's say

614
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be Patrick Peterson, but I would

615
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: take offensive tackles and I would take a pass rusher

616
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: over a corner. And you could argue if Isaiah Simmons

617
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: is truly like a tall honey Badger meets you know,

618
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: just this hybrid player outside linebacker star kind of can

619
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: pass rush, do it everything. I would rather have Isaiah

620
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Simmons than a corner because I I like corners and

621
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: they matter. But if you're a lockdown corner, I can

622
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: just throw to the other side. If you're a honey Badger,

623
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Speaker 1: I don't know what side he's gonna I don't know

624
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be, right, I just I don't Uh.

625
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals, I think clearly they could take an

626
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. But if I was the Cardinals, I would

627
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: justify by this. Well, my little quarterbacks faster than all hell,

628
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: so at least he can avoid pass rushers. Uh. My

629
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: defense is stinks right now. I have one good defensive

630
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: player that I feel confident. I guess I got to

631
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, but I got Chandler Jones, especially in my

632
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: front seven. I need to get him some help. We

633
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: haven't had a legit defensive line since Klais Campbell has

634
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: been traded, and we've kind of fallen off the map.

635
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: You put Derek Brown with Chandler Jones, you're in You're

636
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: in a conference against Russell Wilson against Kyle Shanahan against

637
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: McVeigh and all those. You gotta be able to rush

638
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: the pastor the Jacksonville Jaguars have got rid of Klais

639
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Speaker 1: Campbell and Malik Jackson the last twelve months. They desperately

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Speaker 1: need a good defensive lineman, so I gave them Javon

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Speaker 1: kin Law from South Carolina, who's kind of this physical

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Speaker 1: free The Browns, uh, they have wide receivers everywhere. They

643
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Speaker 1: got multiple running backs, they got multiple tight ends, they

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Speaker 1: got good defensive players, their offensive line stinx, and they

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Speaker 1: signed Jack Conklin, a playwright tackle. You know, in this mock,

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Speaker 1: I got them taking Tristan Worse. I mean, they're taking

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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle as they should. And then Baker Mayfield

648
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Speaker 1: has legitimately zero excuses. Who have two legit tackles. He'll

649
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: have multiple wide receivers, who have multiple sweet running backs.

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Speaker 1: He'll have a sweet new tight end. He'll have another

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Speaker 1: tight ends come back from injury. Like time to put

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Speaker 1: up or shut up. New York Jets kind of like

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, like they need offensive line help. But the

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Speaker 1: Jets did sign a lot of offensive lineman over the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks or two weeks. Now, I guess I

656
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: get in quarantine. You kind of loose track of time.

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Speaker 1: I gave him Jerry Judy because I think there's two

658
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Speaker 1: ways to look at it. You put you put in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of, you know, functional starters. Now, you could

660
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Speaker 1: always take a great offensive lineman. But if you're other

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Speaker 1: parts of your offensive line are week just having one

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Speaker 1: star tackle doesn't necessarily change it. I know what you

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Speaker 1: can't do if you have no one to throw too.

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Speaker 1: Even if I am blocking for you, the quarterback can't function.

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Speaker 1: They have one legitimate offensive player and that's Levian Bill.

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Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder actually wasn't bad last year. Robby Anderson, their

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Speaker 1: deep threats gone to meet Jerry Judy. He comes from

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Speaker 1: a big time program. He's been the star wide receiver

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Speaker 1: there for multiple years. Uh, he's had a five catches

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Speaker 1: and twenty four touchdowns the last two years. I think

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Speaker 1: he'd fit right in in in New York and he'd

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Speaker 1: be Sam Donald's go to guy for years to come.

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Speaker 1: I think the Raiders and Niners these next two picks

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Speaker 1: are interesting because both of them have another first round pick.

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00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: The Raiders have a ton of needs. Uh, they easily

676
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Speaker 1: could take another corner. I mean, they signed some solid linebackers,

677
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: but if they like a fast linebacker enough, you can

678
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Speaker 1: never have enough death. You could argue if one of

679
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: those defensive linemen fall to them, they could do that,

680
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Speaker 1: but they're best wide receivers. Tyrone Williams, who you know,

681
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Speaker 1: it's a good number two, probably an ideal elite three.

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Speaker 1: I got him taking Ceedee Lamb. Derek Carr has done

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Speaker 1: his best work when he's had Davante Adams in college,

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Speaker 1: and then Michael Crabtree in the pros. Guys with huge

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Speaker 1: catching radiuses that make up for poor ball placement and

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Speaker 1: that you can just throw it up to even when

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Speaker 1: they're covered and let him make plays in that Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 1: And then for the forty Niners, I gave him Henry Ruggs.

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Speaker 1: Kyle desperately wants a speed guy in that offense. You

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Speaker 1: put a speed guy to go deep, you put Kittle

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Speaker 1: over the middle, and you have d Bow on one

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Speaker 1: side just working his magic. You've got a legitimate offense,

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Speaker 1: especially when you factor in all the running backs. So

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Speaker 1: that's my mock draft on the athletic. You gotta pay

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Speaker 1: for it, but I gave it to you. Here free. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so go if you haven't already subscribed Athletic I love

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Speaker 1: that place. Okay, let's go Middle Coff mail bag at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. Uh is my Instagram handle. D MS wide open,

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Speaker 1: slide up in them if you're sliding in the d ms.

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Speaker 1: Also leave a little uh leave a little apparable review

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Speaker 1: on the three and Out podcast, John fan of both pods,

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00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you pumping out stuff during the quarantine. Seeing almost

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Speaker 1: all the experts placing one of the top three wide

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00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: receivers Judy Lamb and Ruggs to San Francisco at thirteen,

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00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: but you think there's a chance they replaced Buckner directly

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Speaker 1: with the pick. Derrick Brown, Auburn defensive tackle, has been

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Speaker 1: sliding the late teams because of predicted runs at offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle and wide receiver, but he's clearly a top ten

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Speaker 1: talent him and default of similar disruptive gap eating play styles.

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Speaker 1: While Brown isn't six seven the mountain of a man

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00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: defot is, he's still a massive for a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: A couple other points, out of all of stenses, o

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Speaker 1: C and head coach Shanahan has only had two offensive

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Speaker 1: two had two offensive skill players drafted onto his team

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Speaker 1: in the first round, both quarterbacks r G three and

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel. God, I forget that the coach Johnny Manzel.

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: That's insane. All others have been offensive linemen or defensive players.

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Speaker 1: Could be a trend. Also, Lynches seen a successful GM

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Speaker 1: after drafting two defensive lineman early, even though he whipped

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Speaker 1: on Thomas. Is he tempted to stick to what has

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00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: gone well? It's a good question. I I think what

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Speaker 1: makes the Niners fascinating is they have two picks. So

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Speaker 1: the reason it's a deep wide receiver draft, they could

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Speaker 1: easily take a guy at thirty one. So with thirteen,

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: the reason you have their team is because you got

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Speaker 1: rid of to Forest Buckner, so you could fill a spot.

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00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: You could also take a corner the CJ. Henderson I

728
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: think is his name, the corner from Florida. The Niners

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00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: have one stud corner and Richard Sherman who's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a free agent after next year, and then their other

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Speaker 1: corner position is undrafted free agent Emmanuel Moseley and a

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Speaker 1: Kellow Weatherspoon, so I think they could easily take a corner.

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Speaker 1: I also think they could trade back. I I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot to do. One things. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the niner is gonna do with the first

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Speaker 1: round picks they have? Uh? Do you know what's fun

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Speaker 1: about the draft? And I think what makes the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and makes the forty Niners so talked about and the Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: Uh is there any other teams with multiple first round picks?

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Speaker 1: Trying to think the Texas don't have any of the

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00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: Bears don't have any. Is anytime you get multiple first

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Speaker 1: round picks, it's like you're showing up the casino, not

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Speaker 1: with a bag of cash, but two bags of cash.

744
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't wait to gamble. And that's what it's.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun time to be a to be a

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00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: football fan when your team has two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: even if one of them is in the late twenties.

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Speaker 1: With the Raiders, they got picked twelve and nineteen, Like

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00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: they could do some crazy shit. I mean, they could

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Speaker 1: trade up really high in the draft if they want

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Speaker 1: to do and get a player, or they could use

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: one of them to trade back. They could just sit

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00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: there and pick both guys. Forty is a little different

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Speaker 1: than the Raiders have a second or third or fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick. So would a team, you know, some of

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Speaker 1: these teams and the teams or even in the twenties

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Speaker 1: be willing to kind of move up. I think the

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00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: lots on the table. If I'm gonna pick the Niners,

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I would go corner, wide receiver, or defensive line. Uh.

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: I love the pod wondering if Rodgers is truly declining

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: or he just getting used to a new system. He

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00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: has also had horrible wide receivers and Davante did miss

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00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: five weeks also Green Bay super Bowl window closed. I

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00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say he's declining a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't quite move like he used to. His accuracy

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Speaker 1: to me in big games was a little off. Now

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00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: I do think there are some fair counters his wide

768
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: receiver corps besides seventeen was bad, Jimmy Graham bad. Their

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00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: running game was good. Uh, the this is not Donald Driver,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jennings, Jamichael Finley, Randall Cobb, that it's not that

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00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, that that group is not walking through the door.

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say he's shot or anything. He just

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Speaker 1: kind of had an up and down season for a

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Speaker 1: guy who stats look pretty good and team won a

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Speaker 1: lot of games. I think what's weird about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: His team went thirteen and three. Statistically, he looked solid.

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Speaker 1: But there is to me, there's something with the eye

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Speaker 1: test and a Packer fan just like any NFL fan,

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Speaker 1: because we've been watching Rogers for a decade, and for

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Speaker 1: about seven or eight of those years in the decade,

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00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: it was like watching unlike anything we've ever seen. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you flip on the TV and you watch Lebron,

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Speaker 1: you got yeah, I don't think I've ever seen that before, right,

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Speaker 1: You just that doesn't look normal, even Brady, like Brady

785
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: is the best at it. But we've seen tall uh

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00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, immobile quarterbacks. He just throws dimes or historically has,

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Speaker 1: but I've seen we've seen his type. I've never really

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Speaker 1: seen a Rodgers. Now, some people that if you watch

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Speaker 1: Marino and Elway, Like I was born in the mid eighties,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really get to feel those guys. I canna

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Speaker 1: watch YouTube, but it's different when you watch a guy live.

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Speaker 1: Watching Aaron Rodgers live again had some flaws or whatever,

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Speaker 1: teammates and all that stuff. When he was on, he

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Speaker 1: was unstoppable. We all agree with that. Whether you like

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Speaker 1: the Packers who don't like the Packers. Dude was a killer,

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Speaker 1: straight assassin, and I think there were times this year

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00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: where he went does he still have that? Uh? My

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Speaker 1: beef with Aaron has always been his fundamentals are shitty.

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Speaker 1: Now you can get by with bad fundamentals when you're

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Speaker 1: a freak and his arm was elite, his accuracy was elite. Well,

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't stay with you forever. There's a reason Like

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00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady now they had to or

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00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees have elite fundamentals, eat, always in perfect spots,

804
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: shoulders parallel to the target, arm, all that stuff. Like

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00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Rogers doesn't mess with that. He gets away with it.

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00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Think of basketball players. When you're an elite athlete, you

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Speaker 1: can kind of screw around like Russell Westbrook and still

808
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Speaker 1: drop thirty five. When that athleticism diminishes, if you can't

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: really shoot, you get exposed. Now, Rogers always has been accurate,

810
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: but it gets a little harder when you're thirty sixty

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Speaker 1: seven years old, when your feet aren't set when you're

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Speaker 1: drifting back. His fundamentals are is bad? Now? Can they

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Speaker 1: just get I think it's sometimes hard to treat a

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00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: you know, teach a new dog treat an old dog

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Speaker 1: new tricks. But if he could just get control of

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Speaker 1: some of his fundamentals, I think he might have a

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Speaker 1: chance to still be elite. I would, by no means

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Speaker 1: count him out. I love the pod it has been.

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Speaker 1: It has a visceral, not overproduced feel to it. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Did you do anything to help did you

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Speaker 1: do anything to help you find your voice? What mike

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Speaker 1: do you use? Sound quality is on point? Well, I

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Speaker 1: use a H four N Pro, which is this zoom

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Speaker 1: It's like a little box, and then I plug a mic.

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Speaker 1: USB mikes if you're trying to start your own podcast,

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Speaker 1: non never sound as good. So you want I think

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Speaker 1: some cable name. I'm not see. I'm not a radio guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just scout businessman who now talks. So I don't

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were using on podcasts. You don't

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Speaker 1: H four N Pro and then I plug that into

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Speaker 1: my computer, and then I press record on garage band

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Speaker 1: on my Apple computer, and then that's it. It actually

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Speaker 1: isn't that complicated. Now. The H four N Pro I

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Speaker 1: think cost me, I don't know, three bucks. The Mike's

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Speaker 1: the chord. So really my only purchase was I bought

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Speaker 1: a computer a couple of years ago. I needed a

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Speaker 1: new one. It's nice, and I bought this Zoom and

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Speaker 1: then you can just produce a show. It's pretty easy.

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Speaker 1: Technology is a hell of a thing. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about how the coronavirus is going to affect college seniors

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Speaker 1: going to the draft who didn't quite make the combine

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Speaker 1: cut and aren't going to be able to have their

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Speaker 1: pro days. Got two buddies from high school. One of

850
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: them is a little undersized but has intangibles, but won't

851
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: be able to show his speed athleticism at his at

852
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: his pro day, and that sets him apart similar to

853
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: the other guy, He just a sick athlete, played almost

854
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: every position in college, really needed to display his vast

855
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: skill set. What this means for them, I think you

856
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: bring up a great point. Pro days if I'm going

857
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: to a pro day like Jerry Judy and those guys, like,

858
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: we've seen it all. Most of the first round guys

859
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: they crushed the combine. Now some guys hold out, like

860
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: kJ Hamler, the Penn Steak guy. But but I know

861
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: that guy's fast. To me, I think you're right. The

862
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: pro days effect a guy that might have been a

863
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: six or seventh round pick. Now is that guy gonna

864
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: get drafted? He might not if I don't have very

865
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: fight speed. But this is also where if you're a

866
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: scout and you've got in let's just pick us random school.

867
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: Let's say your buddy plays at Arizona and he's kind

868
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: of an under the radar player, but you love him

869
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: and you think he's a draftable player. Over this next

870
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: month is when you kind of start pounding the table

871
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: for guys like that. Say hey, coach, Hey whoever your

872
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: GM is, Hey Bill, Hey Jim, hey John, we need

873
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: to draft this guy. This is a draftable player to

874
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: use a six or seventh round pick on. And this

875
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: is when I think this draft is going to be very,

876
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: very scout heavy. For non New England teams, this is

877
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: a time when you can really step up and you

878
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: know and have the opportunity to kind of make your

879
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: voice heard because the GM's are gonna have to rely

880
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: on you. They're not gonna have the information they didn't

881
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: go into some of these schools. These guys aren't gonna

882
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: have workout numbers. You're not gonna have any measurables. So

883
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: this is for the guys that have been at the

884
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: boots on the ground. All these scouts that have been

885
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: to these practices have seen these guys play live. This

886
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: is when you set for it yourself. This might in

887
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years we hear about that's when uh Bill,

888
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: Bill Middlecoff I just used my last name, became like

889
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: we knew he was a good scout, but he eventually

890
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: became the assistant general manager because he shined during the coronavirus.

891
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a time for a lot of scouts

892
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: to like, if you put another work, you should shine.

893
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Right now, I'd be hitting my GM up every day,

894
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: like we gotta be all over this guy, this guy,

895
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: and this guy. Since the Buck signed Brady, I think

896
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: they are in wind Mount Win now mode. What is

897
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: your take on them trading for Trent Williams. They have

898
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: the fourteenth pick, and I don't think they will be

899
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: in place to draft the tackle. Well, you can't trade

900
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: the fourteenth pick for a thirty one year old offensive

901
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: tackle who hasn't played in a year. Now. Trent Williams

902
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: when he was playing his elite seven time Pro bowler,

903
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: all those all pros, baller, I mean absolute baller, was

904
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: headed straight to the Hall of Fame. And if you

905
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: put Trent Williams on a team that had been winning,

906
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: I think he'd be one of the more famous players

907
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: in the league. But I definitutely they have a second

908
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: round pick. I can't trade a first round pick for

909
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: you can't. Can't do it like it's that not in

910
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: that business now, I hear you or in wind now mode,

911
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: and they are anytime you sign a forty three year

912
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: old quarterback and you give him fifty million dollars. But

913
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: you've got to be prudent. And I do think one

914
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: of the top tackles will be there at fourteen. Now.

915
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: If they're not, you could always take a defensive player

916
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: and use your second round pick to get him because

917
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: he's clearly available. Uh, let me see what I can

918
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: I get a lot of d ms here. I'm trying

919
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: to work through him. Okay, I've been thinking of how

920
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: you asked how you asked this question for a while while.

921
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Why is Herbert being questioned as much as he is,

922
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: even though to me his circumstances are the worst out

923
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: of all the top four quarterbacks. A lot of talk

924
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: about love and how great of a year he had

925
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: two years ago, but then because of the new coach

926
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and no talent around him, he struggled. Now, look at

927
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: Herbert three coaches in four years, two of which Willie

928
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: Taggert Mark Helfritch, who are clearly not top tier court

929
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: coaches agree Taggert being a guy who tagged Herbert at

930
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: is not a great leader. Ha ha. I just I

931
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: don't know why I read that, ha ha, But that

932
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: was just verbat him. I like you Burgundy reads the prompter.

933
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Then talk about no talent. Organ has had a week

934
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: receiving course since Chip left for Philly fifty two drops

935
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. This guy's got some good knowledge.

936
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being biased Duck fan, and I actually think

937
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: Herbert sliding in the draft will be good for his career.

938
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I wish Joey Harrington and Marcus has been picked later

939
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: in the draft and had better management around them. But

940
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: I feel like no one is giving Herbert any of

941
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: the excuses. They're throwing to the other guy's thoughts. Easton,

942
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good question, Eason. Uh. I think

943
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: NFL teams are talking about this. I don't think media

944
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: people are talking about this. In the NFL. In the

945
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: draft room, people that like Herbert are one million percent

946
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: saying look who Toah and look who Joe Burrow played with.

947
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: His worst wide receiver would easily be Organ's best. To me,

948
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: the kicker is they're running backs at Organ sucked. Their

949
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: running backs and receivers are terrible. Like to Herbert wasn't

950
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: playing with much when he won the Rose Bowl. And

951
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: I get he didn't have to win it with his

952
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: own him. He wanted with his legs. To me, he

953
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: willed them to a victory against one of the best

954
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: defenses in the country. I actually think that's his most

955
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: impressive game of his career. We're all watching all at

956
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: home watching the Rose Bowl, and he just refused to

957
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: let his team loose against a hard core, physical, well

958
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: coached Wisconsin Just a I don't know top twelve program

959
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: right now, and Herbert just carried his squad to a victory.

960
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: I get it was with his legs, but I don't

961
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: blame he had no one to throw to. So I'm

962
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: with you. I'm a I'm a Herbert guy. I think

963
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: in the right situation, he goes the right team. Uh,

964
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in position to win. I think the

965
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: Chargers would be a good spot for him. I listen

966
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: to pod every day. Man, h's frying of colins still,

967
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: but I can't lie to press play on yours first, Now,

968
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: appreciate that how do you keep your your head so clean?

969
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: Serious question? Well, I I guess a lot of guys

970
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: I haven't had this problem. Now. I guess I've been

971
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: shaving my head since about two thousand elevens, almost a decade. Uh.

972
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: The haircut business is not an essential thing in life,

973
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: so that none of you guys are able to get haircuts.

974
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: The good thing about being bald is if virus like

975
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Corona comes out of nowhere and wipes all these businesses

976
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: out and we have to stay quarantined, I'm still able

977
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: to get a haircut every other day because I take

978
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: a Mark three and I go in the shower and

979
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: I just let it rip. And I've been doing that

980
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: now for about When I first started shaving my head,

981
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I just trimmed it to like a one. Now I

982
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: go full bald. I think it's a it's a sign

983
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: of security, you know. I mean after I was very

984
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: scared to go bald, and then once I went bald,

985
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: I was scared to actually pick my head. And then

986
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: once I picked my head, you can't ever go back

987
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: because you realize you can't be in your early to

988
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: mid thirties and have a cold de sac. It can't work.

989
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: You just you look terrible. My dad's generation was in

990
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: the sixties, seventies, eighties. I guess you can pull it

991
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: off to that twenty it's not allowed. If you go bald.

992
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: You just gotta shave it. You just you just gotta

993
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: let it rip unless you have a beard and it

994
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: all connects. Like Mike Garafolo the NFL Network, pretty uh reporter,

995
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: he pulls it off, actually pretty well. He he really does.

996
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: I can't because I can't really grow a full beard,

997
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: and it's just it's just a terrible look. So I

998
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: basically just go mock three. Usually, if I'm gonna shave,

999
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: I try to get a workout first. So it's nice

1000
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: and sweaty and it just flies off, flies off the bone,

1001
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of like brisket. You know when you when you

1002
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: perfectly cook the right type barbecue and the meat just

1003
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: falls off like a good ribs. That's how the hair

1004
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: after a good sweat. Now, if you try to shave

1005
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: too often, it can be it can be intense. But

1006
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: I actually think your head just kind of gets gets

1007
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: used to it. Like I don't get razor burn or anything.

1008
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty easy. And I got pretty sensitive skin,

1009
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and I, uh, yeah, I just just shave. And the

1010
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: key is a little lotion too. You know, it's a

1011
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: little you can't you can't have a dry head. But

1012
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening, and uh, enjoy quarantine as as well

1013
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: as possible. Keep your head up and I'll see a

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Speaker 1: little later in the week. So a s