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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: of him, and this one that has inherited all these players.

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Speaker 1: They have the right to say, you know, just because

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Speaker 1: the first round pick. He wasn't our first round pick,

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Speaker 1: but he was. He was Ray Horton's. His one good

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Speaker 1: year was with Ray Ray Horton was not making personnel

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Speaker 1: decisions when Joe Banner was running the front office with

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Speaker 1: the one time he looked like a decent NFL player,

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Speaker 1: he had the exact same system and the exact same

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Speaker 1: coach he has now. So if anything, I think that

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Speaker 1: makes your point stronger that if this guy Ray Horton

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Speaker 1: doesn't think Mingo can have any value, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a red flag. And I saw when West, I saw

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Sheered too. But the thing about Sheered that's

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Speaker 1: very different than Mingo is that Cheered was in three

439
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Speaker 1: different defensive systems and thrived in each one of them,

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Speaker 1: playing a four and a three man front and showed

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Speaker 1: that how And he's a tough player that played through

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Speaker 1: a nasty foot injurin is last year in Cleveland. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't surprised to see him go to New England when he,

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Speaker 1: as a free agent, didn't want to stay in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him to be productive. Mingo would be

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Speaker 1: a surprise if he comes when we're close to sar.

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Speaker 1: That all all that makes sense. But you've spoken often

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Speaker 1: on the podcast about this fear. Why did you have

449
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Speaker 1: rather him gone to Tampa? I think what's I think?

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's different when it's like a Johnny Manzell,

451
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Speaker 1: a quarterback type thing where I didn't want to see

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Speaker 1: him going somewhere else and lighting up because Cleveland couldn't

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Speaker 1: coach the player up or keep him. You know, did

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else and light it up? Yes he did. Greg,

455
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Speaker 1: excellent joke with your four year old daughter in the studio.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I don't I I don't have

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Speaker 1: a I don't have a problem with with this at

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Speaker 1: this point because the Browns, listen, they're starting over, the

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Speaker 1: starting over, and it's it's time to let go of

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen first round picks that have not done

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Speaker 1: anything in three plus seasons. Now I think he's gonna

462
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Speaker 1: go to New England and have ten sacks. I mean,

463
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Speaker 1: I mean him to number one. It's like, give me

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Speaker 1: a break that carries the water up and down the hill.

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Speaker 1: Of course he wants, I hope. Blame me for thinking

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. The Patriots take cast off from other

467
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Speaker 1: places and get production. But a lot of times they

468
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Speaker 1: take cast offs and it doesn't work. And a fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick, why not? It's like, how many fifth round

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Speaker 1: picks make the Patriots or make an impact? Do you

471
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Speaker 1: have a greater chance of hitting on your undrafted freedings

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Speaker 1: or fifth round pick. They're taking a shot with a

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Speaker 1: guy they thought was talented. But to me, if he is,

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Speaker 1: if he plays twenty snaps the game and gets five sacks,

475
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Speaker 1: that would be a big win. He was. He was

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Speaker 1: injured for a big chunk of his time in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I give the Patriots this credit. More teams should do this.

478
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Speaker 1: They are trading non stop. They constantly trick roster, they

479
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Speaker 1: find value. They like him, good luck to him to

480
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Speaker 1: move on the other trade. The Patriots made their center

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Speaker 1: Brian Stork, who at least recently lost his starting job

482
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Speaker 1: but had started seventeen games over the last two seasons.

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Speaker 1: He was moved to the Washington Redskins and in exchange

484
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Speaker 1: for a conditional draft pick. Rap Sheet reported Greg Brian Stork.

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Speaker 1: Brian with why anything to add, Well, just that you

486
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Speaker 1: have a rookie center who plays great a rookie year,

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Speaker 1: he starts uh one of the best Super Bowls ever

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Speaker 1: where you have a classic fourth quarter come back, and

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Speaker 1: then and then the year year and a half later

490
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Speaker 1: he's traded for nothing. That's just sort of how what

491
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Speaker 1: happens with the Patriots. You get used to not getting

492
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Speaker 1: too attached to anyone but the top ten players on

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Speaker 1: the team. They just changed their mind. But when the

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Speaker 1: Patriots to it, it's like, oh, that genius. Why don't

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Speaker 1: people have problem? Well, I'm saying if another team whatever,

496
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Speaker 1: they are genius, but if another team didn't have the

497
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Speaker 1: same Brian Stork experience, and and yes to your point, West,

498
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Speaker 1: it's fully deserved. It's like that team's crumbling in upon

499
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Speaker 1: itself andtex But the reason they've they've been good for

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Speaker 1: fifteen years because that the best quarterback ever in the

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Speaker 1: best coach ever. Yeah, most coach. Most part, the coach

502
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Speaker 1: is making all these decisions. He's definitely not afraid. He

503
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Speaker 1: likes David Andrews better. This guy he didn't like for

504
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Speaker 1: very I think for other reasons. It sounds like his

505
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Speaker 1: love for football, or you know, he was questioned in

506
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Speaker 1: terms of he was thinking of retiring. He'd been in

507
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Speaker 1: like could they make a decisive to Belichick might be

508
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Speaker 1: the best GM around two? By the way, which is

509
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Speaker 1: never given credit for, could they have gotten a higher

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Speaker 1: draft pick if they waited three hours from the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: M that's a good point. Their starting center went down

512
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Speaker 1: and they've got no backup. It sounded like they were

513
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Speaker 1: just gonna cut store too, and then they just got

514
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Speaker 1: a phone call from Redskins. Then Belichick and O'Brien are tight.

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Speaker 1: That could have You never knows this offensive system there. Uh,

516
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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. By the way, Greg,

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Speaker 1: one thing I wanted to touch on. I've been meaning

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Speaker 1: to do it for a couple of weeks now, but

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Speaker 1: this feels like a good time. You are no longer

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Speaker 1: younger in a management position. You have freed yourself up

521
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Speaker 1: as a writer and I I've noticed the uptick in

522
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Speaker 1: your production and some interesting column ideas some great execution.

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Speaker 1: You've done a great job as as I'm waiting for

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Speaker 1: something to drop, something another shoot to drop here. But

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Speaker 1: now that you are more kind of like us and

526
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Speaker 1: you don't have these other tasks to deal with meetings

527
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Speaker 1: and scheduling and managing the various egos that come with

528
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Speaker 1: being the boss of around the NFL, I think I

529
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Speaker 1: think it's fair uh to wonder, uh if it's time

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Speaker 1: to bring back hero picks. Baby, come on back right,

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Speaker 1: let's pick some heroes together. I don't want to do

532
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Speaker 1: hero picks. What does that have to do with managing

533
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: you or not? Because you're not doing it kind of

534
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: butter me up. No, we were. We are NFL Picks,

535
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: which was a huge hole in the show last year.

536
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: Remember doing the NFL game picks every week and we

537
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: have a competition, And last year Greg pulled the rug

538
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: out from under us uh and said he wasn't doing

539
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: the picks anymore. And I think the subtext was I'm

540
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: too busy, I'm a manager. I said it was not

541
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: emotionally it was emotionally exhausting. I was too into paying

542
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: attention to picks and it hurt my enjoyment of football.

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00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Let me translate that. Well, there's on the one hand,

544
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: his own degeneracy that he was worried about, and then

545
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: he didn't like it when you whind and complain and

546
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: wanted to change the rules late in the year. Well,

547
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: that's part of it too, dealing with all that. That's

548
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: that all that. It was mostly self inflicted. I'll admit

549
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to I'm trying to be healthy. I

550
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: like how you did that, though, Dan, You got him

551
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: into a nice pace kind of exactly highlighted the whole

552
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: career shift that he's gone through. And he did not bite. Um, No,

553
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: he did not bite. But we're gonna keep working on it.

554
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: And everybody out there on Twitter, I want you to

555
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: go after this hashtag bring back hero picks. Yeah, tens

556
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: of people noticed last year, everybody here that here, that

557
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't respect where you're coming from this, why it

558
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: doesn't going to the subject hero picks. You can still

559
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: do here. It's not the same without it being the

560
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: four of us. You can still make your picks. You

561
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: do make your picks. Did you notice that I hung

562
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: up the burlap sack next to your desk that says

563
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: bring back hero picks on it? One of our listeners

564
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: sent it in last I think it's clear that Greg

565
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: does not care about the common man. Mm hmm, it's

566
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: not true at all. You know, he is. His offspring

567
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: is in the room. Can we have a little bit

568
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: more respect for the former boss? All right, folks, it

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Speaker 1: is time Part three. The Around the NFL Fantasy Extravaganza

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Speaker 1: is fantasy, real fantasyure. It is ours and with that

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Speaker 1: it is time. Here we go. Welle, last time, West,

572
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: grab me, pull me baby, to get back in the boat,

573
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Speaker 1: in the boat, in the boat. Evan Silva the senior

574
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Speaker 1: football editor of Rhodo World and a dad to the

575
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: cutest little girl. That's his Twitter bio. To be clear

576
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: and not to be a creep, that is actually that's

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Speaker 1: the Twitter bio. Evan, Welcome to Around the NFL Podcast.

578
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me, guys. I'm a regular

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00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: listener during the off season and leading up to this

580
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: season and during the season, so a year round listener,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just hoping that I'd do better than Spice racted.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're covering yourself. You started saying you're

583
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: just like an off season listener, and then you realize,

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Speaker 1: I'm wait that sounds bad. No, no, I'm gonna hear

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Speaker 1: round listening. So a couple of things, Um, first of all,

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have right now, Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: let me just say that in my teasing of the

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Speaker 1: big Fish, it's it says a lot uh for Mr

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Silva that everyone was guessing Evan Silva. My Twitter was

590
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: inundated with people saying, oh, it's seven Silva. There was

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00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: no other uh fantasy star that was mentioned. So that

592
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: speaks to Evans and maybe they realized too, because west

593
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: seemed to take offense that that there was some sort

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Speaker 1: of big fish coming. Isn't he a big fish? And

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Speaker 1: that that takes it back to the days when Silva

596
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and Westling were going after Let's get that why did

597
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: you just total strong man argument. Let's start Evan with

598
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Rhodo World before we get into any and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about, um Evans the shy away Top forty that

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Speaker 1: he puts out every every summer, which guys that he

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Speaker 1: thinks we should stay away from. And then we're gonna

602
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: have a talk about fantasy philosophies, and that philosophies is

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00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: with an f by the way, I just want that's branded.

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Speaker 1: So anybody out there who thinks that they can come

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Speaker 1: in and put F instead of a P. I already

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Speaker 1: did it. I got trademarks on it. F on the

607
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: first pH or the second. No, oh, that's even better.

608
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I got fantasy with a P. And then you know, anyway,

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Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Seven. What was it like

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Speaker 1: working with Greg? First of all as a boss that

611
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Speaker 1: wrote a world. Well, you know, I've only met Greg

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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: like twice in real life. Um. All of our interactions

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00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: were over a O L instant messenger for many many years.

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Speaker 1: And that's the same with west who I've never even

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Speaker 1: met in real life once. Um. Actually, I still think

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Speaker 1: that Chris Westling is um a hippie who lives on

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Speaker 1: on Tybee Islands. He denies it, but I stand by

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Speaker 1: that evaluation of Chris Westlan. Was that based on just

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Speaker 1: knowing that's where he was stationed or in your I

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Speaker 1: AM conversations during your time working together. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: that he was. I mean he he is a like

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Speaker 1: a kind of free spirited mind. That's true. And do

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Speaker 1: you agree with that at all? Absolutely? Yeah? Yeah, And

624
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: he lived on Tybee Island. I think I'm an independent thinker,

625
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: but I would ask the three of you in this

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00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: He did hippie. He would work from like beach side

627
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Speaker 1: bars essentially. Yeah, yeah, well what didn't You're kind of

628
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Speaker 1: like an evolutionary hippie on some level. So anyway, so

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Speaker 1: it was nice not to mention that I was a

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Speaker 1: jerk to him as a boss. I mean, let's talk

631
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Speaker 1: about ampared to compared to how you guys are treated.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was a totally not an easy guy

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Speaker 1: to work with. I've I've I've experienced the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal was hard on me, dude, I mean, no, no question,

635
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Speaker 1: but I deserved it, and he showed me how to

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Speaker 1: write road a world blurbs, you know, and that's that's

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00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: still the nuts. Well, never forget at the time that

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal told me that that's what this website is all about,

639
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Speaker 1: and that, you know, I still think about that every

640
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Speaker 1: time and I see, you know, Nick Mensio or whomever

641
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, not do a good blurb or miss something.

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: You know that that Throve now was now laying down

643
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Speaker 1: the gauntlets. There you go, So you handed down the blowtorch. Um.

644
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Speaker 1: And before we get into fantasy talk, I just want

645
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: to also we should it is the eight pound gerrilla

646
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: in the room that Greg and West to a lesser extent,

647
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: for years have spoken about how they have built road

648
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: a World with their bare hands, both from an HTML standpoint,

649
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: how the site looks, but also physically which Greg holds

650
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: up his hands and shows the calloused hands of a worker.

651
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Speaker 1: B Uh, do you take offense to that now that

652
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: you are the most visible presence on road a World.

653
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: I do not take offense to that. I think it's hilarious.

654
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I think that it's true, you know, to to a

655
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: large extent. I mean, Rosenthal set the foundation, you know,

656
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: and then Westling and I and Adam Levitan came in

657
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: and we along with Rosenthal made it great. So I

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: think that that's it's you know, it's not I mean,

659
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't have on his hands from it, but he

660
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: definitely he definitely was the builder. And you know that

661
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: that's that's evident. I think that you too, so much

662
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: time that has helped build build up. You know what

663
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: what's going on with the great things that you have.

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Speaker 1: You guys have going on as well, No doubt you

665
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: should know. Greg, despite me, you know, busting some chops there,

666
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: that was all that was all kind of part of

667
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: a bigger setup to get you some love there. I

668
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate it. The road to World, the

669
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: road a World crew were tight. You're not gonna pull

670
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: us apart? Can you can give Evan some love you?

671
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: We were talking about this in the huddle our commissary yesterday.

672
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: Out of everyone in the football writing business, nobody covers

673
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: a many angles of the sport. And I don't like

674
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: to use the word expert, but in a very expertise way,

675
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: as Evan, who not only does fantasy and film breakdowns,

676
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: loves college football, is in on the prospects, he's in

677
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: on contract talk, all season talk. He covers every angle

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: of the sport more than anyone in the business. I

679
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: asked the West, I said, you know, what does Evan

680
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: do besides football? Because it is a huge advantage and

681
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: asset I would think in the fantasy realm to be

682
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: so plugged in and knowledgeable at the college game as well.

683
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: And if he's doing that and he's doing the pro game,

684
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: what is Evan doing in his life? Like Evan, what's

685
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: the last show that you binge watched? And I haven't

686
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: turned on my TV and like weeks, let's see that

687
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: life behind that kind of checks out, what's the last

688
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: concert you went to? Uh? I went to um a

689
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: Kanye jay Z concert in like two thousand and twelves.

690
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: But over the past decade, you know, that's probably the

691
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: only one that I've gone to. Man, I mean, that's

692
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: that's what it takes. I mean, that's he he knows

693
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: more than anyone out there. He's the fantasy the fantasy

694
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: guy right now. Alright, So trying to dig in ward

695
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: I would like and maybe as the UH this goes

696
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: on this segment, get to know a little bit more

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: about Evan Silva, who's a mysterious figure. The only thing

698
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: I know about Evan, besides his amazing knowledge, is that

699
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: one black and white photo he's not quite looking at

700
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: the camera who no one knows what he's looking at.

701
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: It almost looks like a mass card because it's all

702
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: black in the background. It's interesting. You need a new photo, Evan.

703
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: That was from seven or eight years ago at least. UM. Alright,

704
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: so let's get into it now. Let's talk a little football.

705
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: And yes, let's start with a column that Evan published

706
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: I believe yesterday Thursday, h the shy Away Top forty

707
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: and this is if you want to just Evan, if

708
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: you could just give us a little bit of a

709
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: uh explanation of what the shy away top forty means.

710
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Does that mean don't touch these guys or under the

711
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: right circumstances, go get him. Yeah. So it's a compilation

712
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: of players who I think are either overpriced at their

713
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: average draft position, who I think that you should scratch

714
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: off your cheat sheet altogether like a Jimmy Graham um,

715
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: or players that you should just let other people in

716
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: your fantasy draft select and move forward and try to

717
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: make better picks. Number one on that list, Number one,

718
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. Why is Carlos Hide the number one guy

719
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: to shy away from? So I think a lot of

720
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: people like him as a runner, and I understand why, um.

721
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: And I think that people see him rip off an

722
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: explosive run, which he's done a few times. He certainly

723
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: did in Week one against Minnesota last year, and they

724
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: get really excited about that and they're like, I want

725
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: to get that gun my fantasy team. Um. But if

726
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: you really zoom out and look at the situation that

727
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: he's in, it's not a good one. Forty Niners have

728
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: the second worst Vegas win total in the NFL. They're

729
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: projected to win five and a half games by Vegas.

730
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: There's no Vegas at the NFL. Second, What does that

731
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: have to do with fantasy football's ves? We don't. We

732
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: don't want running backs on bad teams. We don't want

733
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Speaker 1: running backs that are going to be in in in

734
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: comeback mode in the game. We don't want offensive lines

735
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: that are being put together like patchwork, leaning on a

736
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Speaker 1: rookie rookie guard, leaning on a guy who's coming out

737
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: of retirement, leaning on a center who has been in

738
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: the NFL Daniel Kilgore for six years and has ten

739
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: NFL starts. We don't. We don't want a running back

740
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: whose defense is going to get in the way of

741
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: him scoring fantasy points, especially with a guy like Carlos

742
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Hidge track record where he's been in the NFL for

743
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: two seasons. He's played twenty three games, he has twenty

744
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: one receptions. UH, he's not catching passes historically, he may

745
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: get more targets this year. UM Theoretically. He's also been

746
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Speaker 1: a guy who's been injured consistently running running the forty

747
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: at the mbine UH missed UH. His season ended on

748
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: injured reserve as a rookie despite handling only three carries,

749
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: missed o t as last year with a cash stream

750
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: uh in Week seven, who was shut down for the

751
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: season last year with a stress fracture in his foot. Evan,

752
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: I feel like his injury history. You can get excited

753
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: by the explosive runs every now and again, but this

754
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: guy is not a good fantasy pick. I feel like

755
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: his injury history is the best reason to stay away

756
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: from him. If you if you took this philosophy where

757
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: you stay away from shaky offensive lines, bad quarterbacks in

758
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: questionable offense, is you'd have missed out on Adrian Peterson's

759
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: two thousand yards season. I mean, there's a lot of

760
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: running backs who do well on bad team. I I

761
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: find it interesting and people don't know Peterson and take him,

762
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: but I don't. Well, nobody thought Adrian Peterson was Adrian

763
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: Peterson coming off in a c L injury. People don't

764
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: know this about Evan. He is a big guy. I

765
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: didn't know this until I met him, and it made

766
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: me rethink our whole interactions over the years. Maybe I

767
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been so tough on him if I knew

768
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Speaker 1: that he is a massive human being. And I think

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00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: that shows up, He's like, what are you? Six six

770
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Speaker 1: six seven? And well, I don't know why you know, guy,

771
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I just mean built like an athlete,

772
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: built like a big guy. My point is he would

773
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Speaker 1: not be calling Carlos Hide a walking hospital and calling

774
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Speaker 1: him El guapo unless Silva had some confidence that he

775
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: could take care of Carlos Side. And if he ever

776
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: came at him, we would be arguing about Carlos Side.

777
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: By the way, we would go back and forth on

778
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I AM for hours and hours just arguing over players

779
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: and someone I would have gone out sound sexy. I mean, honestly,

780
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: can we talk about somebody else? But yeah, I mean

781
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I'm assuming you have Todd Gurley at

782
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: number three that a lot of the same kind of

783
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: stuff you put out there for Hide would apply to

784
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Girley's situation quarterback issues, team maybe on offense, not too

785
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: powerful precisely in his average draft position where people see

786
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: the you know, the exciting run every now and again,

787
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: and they want to take him in the top five

788
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: fantasy picks, and he doesn't belong in the top five

789
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: fantasy picks. By the way, I just want to and

790
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: we should just bounce around on this. Let's hit a

791
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: couple more names before we move on, But I do

792
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: want to just because I I heard the voice, but

793
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if it was actually him. Can we

794
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: check in and if you don't mind, Silva, if we

795
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: could check in on the Mark Sessler fantasy corner real quick?

796
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Is that cool with you? I heard that? All right,

797
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna check in. Mark you there? Oh no, give me,

798
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: would Mark you there? Yeah? It's bad here. I apologize,

799
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: terrible sound quality, it's got, it's got increasingly feel here.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. Okay, we'll check back in later on

801
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: the fantasy corner, but it's not good anyway. Let's move

802
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: on and talk about um. Well, we talked about Roethlisberger Wednesday.

803
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: You're in lockstep with some of the guys on that.

804
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: How about another name that jumps out, Greg James White.

805
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: Another guy we think Dion Lewis is out. James White

806
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: jumps in. You have him at number thirteen. Yeah. So,

807
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: a lot of fantasy analysts point to his production in

808
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: the second half of last season, but I think that

809
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: they failed to recognize that a lot of that production

810
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: came as a result of the Patriots simply not having

811
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: other options. Juliettelman was out for the year, but Derek

812
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Blunt was out for the year. Rob Gronkowski and Daniel

813
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Mondola both missed time during that stretch. Uh, Tom Brady

814
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: was the quarterback. Now we got Jimmy Garoppolo. All those

815
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: guys are back. The Patriots added Martellas Bennett. Um. You

816
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: know this kid, Tyler Gaffney has looked pretty good in

817
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: the preseason. So I think that well, when you when

818
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you start to see where when you start to look

819
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: where James White has start to go in draft, I

820
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: mean you'll see him go eighth, ninth round. Really that

821
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: he is specific to a point for reception lead number

822
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Speaker 1: one and number two. I think that even uh in

823
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: a point per reception league, there's a good chance that

824
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: he'll disappoint and you're certainly not going to get a

825
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: full season out of production out of him because Jean

826
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Lewis is gonna be back eventually. That's insane that he's

827
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: going that high. I see another guy right after him

828
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: that's sort of getting taken around the same spot that

829
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I would love to have, which is Duke Johnson, which

830
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: is marks making the leap guy, don't. And I know

831
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: you said that it's not looking great for Duke Johnson

832
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: in the preseason, that Isaiah Crowell is certainly there as

833
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: the starter and probably an early down back. But so

834
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: but don't you if we're gonna talk a little philosophy,

835
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Speaker 1: do don't you just want to bet on who's a

836
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Speaker 1: better player. Isn't Duke Johnson just a better player, a

837
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: good NFL player, and over time that's gonna payoff. I

838
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: think he is. I think he's a really good NFL

839
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: player or he's going I think I think he is good.

840
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: I do. I like him coming out of college to UM,

841
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: but he is in a situation are right now. He's

842
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: not going to score a lot of touchdowns on a

843
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: bad team where he's the number two back, and I

844
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: think his his passing game outlook, his target and receptions

845
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: projection are down. I mean when I when I liked

846
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson in the spring, I really liked his outlook.

847
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: But that was when I thought that Josh McCown had

848
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: a shot to be the brown starting quarterback. Now they

849
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: get r G three in there. If you go look

850
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: at the history of dual threat quarterbacks, Uh, they're running

851
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: backs end up not catching a lot of passes because

852
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: instead of checking it down, Uh, these dual threat quarterbacks

853
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: will take off. I mean Cam Newton last year with

854
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: Johnson Stewart, Johnson Seward had sixteen catches. Uh Frank Gore,

855
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you remember he was one of the best receiving backs

856
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: in the league. Karlin Kaepernick becomes the forty nine starting

857
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: quarterback and uh Frank Gore became like a one dimensional

858
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: grinder essentially. Russell Wilson's running backs have never caught a

859
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: lot of passes. Um. So you know, if if you

860
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: just go back and look historically, I think that the

861
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: way that this Brown's offense is shaping up, especially with

862
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: all the target, big time weapons that they have in

863
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: the passing room Gary Barnette, uh Corey Coleman to relp

864
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: prior Josh Gordon will be back in week five. I

865
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: think things are just not shaping up that well for

866
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson. Evan. One name that surprised me on this

867
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: list Amari Cooper. And you make a good point that

868
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: he wins on the ground more than the air, which

869
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: means he's not necessarily a presence in the red zone.

870
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: I just I feel like maybe you didn't acknowledge that

871
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: he played through an injury. For you know, most of

872
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, in a mid season

873
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: he was a wide receiver, one on pace for over yards.

874
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Don't you think that his disappointment down the stretch was

875
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: I would attribute almost solely to injury. Well, I didn't

876
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: write anything about his disappointment down the stretch. I mean,

877
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna hold that against them. Also, also

878
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: during that stretch where he quote unquote disappointed, he had

879
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: his best game of the year against the Packers. Um

880
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: So how much was the foot really affecting him? I

881
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: think that he was affecting him. And I think he

882
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: had a solid rookie season and I own him in

883
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: a dynasty league, and I think that he's going to

884
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: be great eventually. But I think that where he goes

885
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: in draft, you know, you'll you'll see him sometimes go

886
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: ahead of Alshon Jeffrey. You will see him sometimes go

887
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: ahead of Brandon Cooks and te Y Hilton. And I

888
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: don't think that the target seems fair going to be

889
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: there for a Marii Cooper Tycho Crabtree out targeted him.

890
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: That won't happen again. And I think that this offense

891
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: is going to run the football more than they did.

892
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: I think Cooper is a better fantasy player, maybe even

893
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: than he is a real player right now, because he

894
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: makes mistakes, he'll drop passes, he'll make some mental errors.

895
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: But I don't see why he's not gonna beating the

896
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: numbers of all those guys except to you, why Hilton,

897
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: who I love? All right, let's let's move on. So

898
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: check out the shy away top forty over at rhotal

899
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: world dot com. Evan Silver writs a ton of good

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Speaker 1: stuff there. Let's talk about some philosophies now, and but

901
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: before we get into that, Evan Silva's I continue in

902
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: my attempt to learn more about you, not just the

903
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: fantasy man, but the person behind the fantasy. I got

904
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: to get out of the house and do something physical,

905
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: get some fresh air. What is the thing that you

906
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: choose to do I'm going to guess in an upset rollerblading,

907
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I go to the gym and I hang

908
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: out with my daughter. That's that's pretty much it. Those

909
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: seem both healthy and sweet. Yeah, I mean I want

910
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: a question because you've you know, maybe you're not physically

911
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: around Greg and West, but you've known them during their

912
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: formidable years, when they were growing up much earlier than

913
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Dan and I got to know these two guys. You

914
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: know which of the two is more physically attracted to

915
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: you if you were to want to go on a

916
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: date with either one of them? The overall package? Who

917
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: who rules Gregor? Well, this is what I was trying

918
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: to get to. But thank you Mark for doing it.

919
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: All right? Can we do another question? Alright? We found

920
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: the limit to silva? All right, now it is time

921
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: to talk philosophies. And uh West, you're a philosophical man,

922
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: a hippie even some say, uh so, it makes sense

923
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: to start with you. What this is more about? All right?

924
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: You're going into your draft? My draft? Uh is this Sunday,

925
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: for example? So I want to go into it with

926
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: a with a with a clean head. Um, what is

927
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: my philosophy? How do you go into a draft? This

928
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: seems almost too basic to state, but people playing fantasy

929
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: missed this. The entire goal of the sport is to

930
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: get a weekly advantage at that position, every single week,

931
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: which means don't draft guys with low ceilings, don't draft

932
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: safe players, don't draft wide receiver threes, don't draft flex

933
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: running backs. Draft guys who have a chance at their

934
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: ceiling to be a weekly difference maker and give you

935
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: an advantage of your competition. That's the whole purpose of

936
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: fantasy sports. Take upside, don't take don't take the James

937
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: Jones of the world when when he was. Don't take

938
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: James White. Don't take a James Right. Don't don't take

939
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: a guy that's just gonna well, I think I think

940
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: he can get me at least nine yards if I'm

941
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: in a pin. Never draft a wide receiver three swing.

942
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Don't take Ken. Never draft a wide receiver three. Draft

943
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: risk reward guys who have a chance to be wide

944
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: receiver ones. Used the waiver wire to pick up a

945
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver three during the season, haven't. How about a

946
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: philosophy from you. I mean, I completely agree with westlan Um,

947
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: but what we can just talk about the quarterback position.

948
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: And I understand that West's take is that you know,

949
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: we should pursue difference makers, and I totally agree in

950
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: Cam Newton was a difference maker at quarterback last year,

951
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: a guy that you could get in the eighth or

952
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: ninth round. People were all concerned about his prior year

953
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: injuries and he was a great value pick in drafts.

954
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: But if you're not, I mean there there really are

955
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: no quarterback difference makers beyond that. Especially last season. I

956
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: mean the number two overall fantasy quarterback was Lake Bortles.

957
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: He scored twenty two points per game, and Matthew Stafford

958
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: the number sixteen finisher, he scored twenty points per game.

959
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: So it's just not not I would say weight on

960
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: quarterback is a good way to go unless you really

961
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: have a high level of confidence that your quarterback is

962
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: going to be a weekly difference maker. Yeah, and you

963
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: can find them later. Take guys to that point, take

964
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming off of not their best season. I mean

965
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: that goes for everyone. It see, it should seem obvious.

966
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was That was one thing that I

967
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: probably did more than anything is I just looked for

968
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: guys who weren't that old, that that were coming off

969
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: of bad seasons that have shown that they're good players.

970
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: You already know they're a good player. They're coming off

971
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: a bad season, so they're gonna be cheap in drafts.

972
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: You take Cam Newton in the year that he's an

973
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: eighth round pick, not a third round pick. Well, the

974
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: corred Larry to that is, don't overpay for last year. Greg,

975
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: give me a philosophy, baby, Well, that that was a philosophy.

976
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: That was a great one. I didn't know if he

977
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: had another one in the tank or that was it. Uh,

978
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: I have plenty, I have plenty in the tank. Well.

979
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to hear what Silva thought about this too,

980
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: and Westling that there's more and more talk of of,

981
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, the no running back draft or staying away

982
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: from running backs. And I don't think this is a

983
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: particularly new notion. I've I've always kind of leaned that

984
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: way that you take wide receive you take, you load

985
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: up on wide receivers early, and you hope for the best,

986
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: taking a lot of running backs late. I usually you

987
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: take one running back maybe in the first four or

988
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: five rounds, and that that's about it. For me. I

989
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: have strong feelings on this. This is not I mean,

990
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: this particular philosophy might be new, but you've always had

991
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: you used to have in the early two thousand's stock

992
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: up on two running backs, and then there was the

993
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: no quarterback theory. Now it's the all wide receiver theory.

994
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: Here's how you draft fantasy football. Don't have a theory

995
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: draft the best player in every round. Yeah, try to

996
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: get the strongest starting lineup possible. But no, you don't

997
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: need all these three theories. Just draft the best players.

998
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: Doesn't that fly in the face though, with Silva's theory?

999
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: Just now about the quarterback? Well, I think can so?

1000
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: I think he we agree that quarterback in round four

1001
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: drafting Aaron Rodgers might not be the best best player

1002
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: on the board. Draft the best player on the board

1003
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: and say wait until round seven or eight and you

1004
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: can get Boardles or Palmer. If Russell Wilson falls, Russell

1005
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: Wilson could be explosive. Uh this season, you know you

1006
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: take them? That was I think one of the worst

1007
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: questions I would get a lot is like, well, once

1008
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: you take two running backs, should you go to a

1009
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: wider don't plan out your draft ahead of time? Don't

1010
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to have some sort of plan or

1011
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: some sort of strategist take the players. Um, all right,

1012
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: here we go. Before we let you go, a couple

1013
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: of things. As the father of a daughter, I want

1014
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: you to know Greg brought his daughter to the office today.

1015
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: She's behind the glass during this podcast, not supervised. Really,

1016
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: as a dad, does that make you uncomfortable to know

1017
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: that some people behave that way. No, I think that

1018
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Greg is responsible and knows what he's doing. Susir and

1019
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: I that was a weird question. Yeah, a lead in

1020
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: questions by the old sensor, No doubt. Can I close

1021
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: with one other philosophy. Sure, this is an admonition to

1022
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: all fantasy. Never ask another grown man how to run

1023
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: your hobby would be another philosophical People like Evan Silva

1024
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: generate tons of high octane quality, free content that you

1025
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: can use to reach your own conclusions about a hobby

1026
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: that you signed up for. Do not pestor Evan Silva

1027
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: did not pestor Chris Wesley and or Greg Rosenthal about

1028
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: how to set your lineup or make a trade. Be

1029
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: a man, make your own trade. Use this free information

1030
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: that people like even Silva put out there, or just

1031
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: read the rankings. I never really understood that. Who should

1032
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: I start when? When you're publishing rankings every week? Click

1033
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: the link. Evan's like from your mouth to God's ears?

1034
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: How many? How many acts do you get every day?

1035
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: People asking you what to do with their lineup or draft? Thousands?

1036
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: I mean a lot, and I you know I'm trying

1037
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: to write an article. I'm trying to take care of

1038
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: my kid, and I can't get to all of my

1039
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: I try to get to as many as I can.

1040
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: I'll just started happening to them that it drove me

1041
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: out of the fantasy industry. I I used to think

1042
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: that the main purpose, like we wanted to provide information

1043
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: and news number one, but the fantasy part of it,

1044
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: the main purpose of the fantasy industry is just to

1045
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: give someone to blame for everyone, just to yell at them,

1046
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, just like Okay, we're just you know, just

1047
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: we're the people you can just blame for your stupid

1048
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: You enjoy that one on one meeting with fantasy fans.

1049
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: You like that interaction. So I'm surprised to hear your

1050
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: take on this. All right, Evan, before we let you go,

1051
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: do you mind sitting in if we throw it over

1052
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: to the corner one last time? Oh to to uh

1053
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: quiet storms corner. Yes, yeah, go ahead, alright, cool, let's

1054
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: throw it on one more time. It's now time Mark

1055
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: is ready with all the scientists here with Evan Sylvia here,

1056
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: and now is your time to dispise some fantasy philosophy

1057
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: and a big spot let's go over to the street corner.

1058
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, these guy has have given you some

1059
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: very direct advice. Mine is a little bit different. This

1060
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Speaker 1: is my philosophy on fantasy football, which I pulled from

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00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: a nineteen eighty two essay by Stephen Snyder called The

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00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Family Life and Leisure Culture, and Stanley Kubrick's The Shining,

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: in which he writes, although the average American may think

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00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: of his country as the land of the Free and

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00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: home of endless opportunity, students of American culture have suggested

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00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: the presence in our psyche of dangerously contradictory elements. One

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: of the more illuminating commentaries is D. H. Lawrence his

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Studies and Classic American Literature, which suggests that the pioneers

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00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: of America came here not to find freedom, but to

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Speaker 1: escape fighting its Yes, what the hell are you talking about?

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Let him go go on a little bit long. No

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: sooner do they arrive than they entrenched themselves in isolation.

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00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: We are fort builders who whose desire is to imperialize

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00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: the land, but have little ruck with it. We idealize

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: work into an ethic precisely because we dislike it. Freedom

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: from work and ultimately from all demanding activities. Is our

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: real goal? Does this have anything to do with fantasy football? Well,

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: I'll publish the rest of this and you can decide it.

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00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: It goes on for another seven or eight page mark.

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: My daughter is crying right now. What have you done

1081
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: to her? Well, the truth hurts. Well, there you go.

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00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's someone that could take something

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: from that into their draft. And I will thank thank

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00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: you from the fantasy corner one left you sound like

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00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: you appreciated it. By the way, it's another year before

1086
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: I have to deal with this, so I will. I

1087
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: will dispel one bit or that. There might not be

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00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: any more fantasy corner if I bullose the corner after that.

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: My one bit of advice is not it is not

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00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: technical at all, the same advice they gave last year.

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00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: Don't be the guy that gets drunk at your fantasy draft.

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: You can drink after the fantasy draft you have a

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: couple of beers. Don't have seventeen beers before the draft starts.

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: That's when you get banged. Evan Silva, you are a mensch,

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: your your fantasy stud uh n, nice man, very strong

1096
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: and tall. Apparently I didn't know that and uh We

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: loved having you on the show today. Thanks so much, guys.

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: Um one last bit, yes, um, don't make your fantasy

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00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: pick against all odds thinking that you're getting the next

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: day during Peterson click to the guys, there he goes.

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00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: All right, I promised the big fish, you got him,

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: delivered a big fish. My back, My back hurts more

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00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: than Tony Romos. I'm reeling that sucker head. You're like, hey,

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00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: way over here, all right, And that wraps up the

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00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: third Annual Fantasy Spectacular Slash Extravaganza. Thank you to everyone,

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: uh for listening and uh you know, being a part

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: of it. On the subreddit. We wish we could have

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: gotten two more mail bad questions, but uh, it's a

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: full show. We try to do the best weekend. We

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00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. We will be back next week.

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00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: We have to wrap up the division previews, but then

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: we're getting very do a great, great job selling this

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: division previous Oh yeah, we got three more divisions in

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00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: the a f C. And then we get ever closer

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00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: to both real football and also, don't forget, I don't

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: know if we'll do it next week of the week

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Speaker 1: after we're gonna do our proper bets, go get my lunch,

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: your evil turd. So we're excited about that. Until then,

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Speaker 1: do we want to get your daughter in here and

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00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: say hello? She want to come in? I mean we

1121
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: can look at the picture of five year olds five

1122
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: year old to operate in a terrain of total chaos.

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00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: In my experience, just do as they wish. You have

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00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: a five year old and a three year old and

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: they're like the British bulldogs as children. Basically, don't get

1126
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: me started on British bulldogs. Yeah, Greg's back. Well, we

1127
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: gave her a movie, okay, fifteen minutes and she doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to She did make this lovely picture of us though.

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00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's we'll take a picture of that and put

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: it up on the round the NFL site. Not her

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: best work looks like the Manson family, you guys, that's

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: two criticisms. Beautiful Are we all in wheelchairs? All right?

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00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: This is me. I don't have much. I think you're

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: behind the desk shield on each of the very nice track. Ellis,

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: that is beautiful, great work, great artwork. She's watching the

1136
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: movie enjoying yourself and that's good. All right. We'll be

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: back next week with three more shows. Thank you to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Les, sid Uh, It's great to have you

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: back on board. This is Dan Hansas signing off four

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00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, the mailman, the boss. Yes, a lot

1141
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: of Sid's back behind the glass. That us still Monday.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we are, We're back, all on the

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01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: marital Blitz pod. They brought us back. I can't believe it.

1144
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: We mean I'm still employed. That's good. I don't know

1145
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: that if they brought us back. Colleen, it's Colleen and

1146
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: John again for the second week in a row. I

1147
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they brought us back so much as

1148
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: you already work here. And then I've been pulling basically

1149
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: reverse Milton from office space, where I'm just hanging out

1150
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: until they give me a job instead of take one away.

1151
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: So so far, so far, so good. Everybody, by the way,

1152
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: has been really nice about that whole like I don't

1153
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: have a job thing like I Will was walking across

1154
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: campus and you're practically the mayor. He ran into shack

1155
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: and check was nice. And then we saw Marcus and

1156
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: hands us this morning and they were nice. Yeah, Aaron Coscarelli,

1157
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm paying them like a pretty good rate to be

1158
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: nice to you keep doing it. Yeah, not gonna be

1159
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: able to afford it soon. So this is the marital

1160
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: Blitz podcast and it's mostly it's pigskin and pop culture.

1161
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: As John has coined multiple times, this is not going

1162
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: to be your XS and os, your footbally football podcast.

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: That's why, Like I said last week, you have the

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: A t N guys, so we're just a compliment to them. Yeah,

1165
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: and by the way, we should thank the A t

1166
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: N guys again. They let us do our first ever

1167
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: micropod last week on the back end of their podcast.

1168
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Is our second ever. We literally could not do it

1169
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: without them, or Chet or Sydney and Brandon, Mark Brady

1170
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: at People and Wolfe, who is an Internet superstar. So

1171
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: everybody who tweeted us, thank you so much. Your tweets

1172
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: were so so funny. My mom still has no idea

1173
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: she was on the podcast, and let's keep it that

1174
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: way or she may never talk to me again. So

1175
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: she's not on Twitter, I know, she's not. Definitely not

1176
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: my dad, though he is on Snapchat. You guys should

1177
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: check him out. Maybe I'll find out his name and

1178
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: give that to you by the end of the pod.

1179
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: But we have some awesome stuff coming up on this podcast,

1180
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: including Brian Westbrook. Yeah, he's going to join us. We

1181
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: saw a tweet earlier in the week that was like

1182
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: sort of weird interaction between teammates or new teammates, which

1183
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: got us think, I mean, you and I have spent

1184
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: time in locker rooms before. That's where we met, super

1185
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: romantic place a bunch of naked dude. She picked me out. Uh,

1186
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why I will take the guy who

1187
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: has clothes, right, So it's always interaction. But so we

1188
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: want to talk to Brian because Brian and I used

1189
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: to work together. We're gonna ask him about weird interactions

1190
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: and media in the locker room and all that kind

1191
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: of fun stuff. Yes, so, but first, does briant this? UM?

1192
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty funny because you know, me a

1193
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: big gamer out there in the gaming community. UM. This

1194
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: week on Tuesday, e A Sports released their newest version

1195
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: of Madden and does Brian He thinks his rating socks

1196
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: he hates it. He got a ninety. I have no

1197
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: idea what that means. I have never played Madden in

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01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: my life. I kind of wish I did, But I

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01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: mean I tried to get into video games a little

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: bit with you at one point. I can't remember what

1201
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: that game was. We played Call of Duty one time

1202
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: and what happened was so my friends and I had

1203
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: been playing and Colleen was like, well, maybe i'll play,

1204
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: and I was like all right. So it's like the

1205
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: two of us and like we're you go on missions

1206
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: and you shoot stuff like that's the whole point of

1207
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: Call of Duty. Colleen spent the two minutes that she

1208
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: played shooting at the ceiling and screaming. I was like, well,

1209
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: this isn't fun for anybody, including the ceiling. And that

1210
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: was the total of her Call of Duty experience. Sydney

1211
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: is behind the glass right now, Sydney. Have you ever

1212
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: played a video game? I have played a video game.

1213
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: I've never played Call of Duty. Yeah. I mean like,

1214
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: I was really good at duck Hunt back in the day.

1215
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: Back in the day Mario Brothers. I was all about

1216
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: the sports video games. What was your game? I like

1217
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Madden and I like, oh gosh, I can't remember what.

1218
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: You're too young, so you don't play super Tech right, Like,

1219
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: that's not super Tech. MO was like way past super Tech.

1220
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: MO is the best video game of all time, hands down.

1221
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: I will die on that hill and fight. Anybody who

1222
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: says otherwise. Also our fantasy it's the super Tech Mobile

1223
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: should tell you how much I love it. But Madden

1224
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: is a step or ten steps beyond that. I mean,

1225
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: like it's I think that would be pretty good at that.

1226
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: I think I feel like it's a lot different than

1227
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Call of Duty, and I can draw from my vast

1228
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: video game knowledge. So what you're saying is you have

1229
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: been authorized me to go buy a PS four and

1230
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: Matt alright, fantastic. Yeah, you can buy it with your

1231
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: next paycheck. You've got ratings, though, Colleen, so everybody, so

1232
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: on on, wait a minute, I just dig went right

1233
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: past like I was like, oh, we should do the show,

1234
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: and I'll like pay attention to that. But apparently she's

1235
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: needling me about being unemployed. Self employed is I like

1236
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: to say, But you get a rating for the players

1237
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: up to a hundred, and he got a rating of ninety,

1238
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: which is pretty good but not like super super Hero

1239
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: was his quote. And I'm sorry, Sydney, but there is

1240
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: something you're gonna have to edit out. So he said,

1241
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: I play Madden. I love Madden. They would do me

1242
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: like that? Oh my god, that is an insult, like,

1243
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: why would you do that to me? How much I

1244
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: love y'all? Like what not John Madden because I love him?

1245
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: It's the video game developers. Yeah he was. He was

1246
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: wink wink, heated about it. But so here were the

1247
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: guys that were rated ahead of him. Also, by the way,

1248
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: e A sent out a video of Dez kicking and

1249
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: said like, it's actually dragging down his overall rate, which

1250
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: I loved. That was such a bastard response. I don't

1251
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: know say that word, but I love it. Um. So

1252
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: the guys that they had rated ahead of him were

1253
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: and this goes like this is sort of like video

1254
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: game nerdy but also football, because I was trying to

1255
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: figure out if this was properly ranked. Antonio Brown, yes,

1256
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, A j Green, Odell Beckham, DeAndre Hopkins, Larry

1257
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: fits in a shan, Jeffrey, I'm cruel with the first

1258
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: one to Larry fits in a shawan is where I

1259
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 1: take my leave. Ry fits kind of old, now, yeah,

1260
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: it's almost my age, which is pretty old. And then

1261
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: a Shawn is always hurt, so I think i'd and

1262
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: I know that Des is coming off the foot injury now,

1263
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: yet Aston also has contract year coming up, so I

1264
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna have a big year. I have

1265
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: no idea how that works. Forever not available or he

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: might be available, or he could be available. And I

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: realized again that Des has those issues. I'd still take Des,

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01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: like if they were both healthy. Well, here's my thing,

1269
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: because Dees he had the injuries last year um and

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: some poor quarterback play because of the Cowboys. But DeAndre

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: Hopkins he played with four different quarterbacks and not great

1272
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and he was amazing, So he can do it

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: without a good quarterback. But Dees didn't, So I might

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: put Dez. I would put DeAndre Hopkins above DEAs. Yeah,

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. That's the line of demarcation

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: for me. I like, I go, if you want to go.

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01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight you over DeAndre Hopkins, Like I'll

1278
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: fight you over a lot of stuff up to including

1279
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: how many fans were allowed to put on You're like

1280
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: the fan man. Every time I come home, I can't

1281
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: even hear my self talk or anything else. And you

1282
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 1: have the TV on so loud that I can hear

1283
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: an outside the door because there are ten thousand fans on.

1284
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: So maybe we should just get an air conditioning neaper.

1285
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: Our neighbor Bruce understands why I have to crank up

1286
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: to it's a it's a band. It's already called the

1287
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: cops on us. We only lived in the apartment for

1288
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: like three days and the cops left a citation on

1289
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: our door, Welcome to Santa. You've got to crank up

1290
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: to fans in order to hear the television, and it's

1291
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: just all downhill from there. But um, I'm I'm riding

1292
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: with Dez. I'm ron with Des. He needs a higher rating.

1293
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: You put it, You put Odell Beckham at four yor

1294
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: cool with that? Cool? Well. I think that these are

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: just like the guys in no particular order that they

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: had ahead of them. I thought you said yesterday that

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: you weren't on board with A J. Green close like

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01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I would definitely put Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, Odell Beckham,

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: and DeAndre if we were talking fantasy, those are the

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: guys I'd take for talking Madden. I'd rather play those guys. Uh.

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: A J. Green and Des are like one too. I'm

1302
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: still a dead guy, yeah, but also A J. Green

1303
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: half of his receiving corps left, so it's just really him.

1304
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna be getting so many targets. How can you

1305
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: say that he's going to be a monster? Who Tyler Boyd?

1306
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, did you not listen to the A t

1307
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: N Fantasy Extravaganza. I did listen, and then they were

1308
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: talking about, Hey, this kid could be maybe a little something.

1309
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm going undrafted right now. I like that you're on board,

1310
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 1: You're putting all of your stock and Tyler Boyd's basket.

1311
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna reach for him for sure. I'm going

1312
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: to overdraft him. So, like we were saying at the

1313
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: top of the show, we saw this tweet earlier this week.

1314
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 1: It was from Pat McAfee and he was retweeting Antonio Cromarty,

1315
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: who is yes, still playing, John asked me earlier today,

1316
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: Antonio cremartis, I thought he bounced out of like twelve

1317
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: different times. H But that's he's back. Good for I

1318
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: like it. So Pat McAfee colts punter. He retweeted cremarty

1319
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: and said, hey, man, welcome. You remember kneeing me in

1320
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: the face a couple of times on that return years ago?

1321
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: By the way over it, which I I thought it

1322
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: was sort of um like a needily welcome to the

1323
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: full type of tweet if you're a punter though, like

1324
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: in general, you probably don't want to do that, but

1325
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: I liked it. But it got us talking about again,

1326
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: like the different Lacker room interactions we've had, and we've

1327
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: seen teammates have awkward interactions so many and we've seen

1328
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: a lot of awkward interactions between the media and players

1329
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: as well. We've been a party to the physical altercations. Actually,

1330
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely, I mean the Lacker rooms are weird,

1331
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: weird places gang especially in Philadelphia. Yeah, well Philadelphia in general,

1332
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: I think, like, uh supports and promotes that weirdness because

1333
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: you get this weird cast of characters that go in

1334
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: there and they're sort of awkward and aggressive about it.

1335
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: But we thought, you know, who could we talk to

1336
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: about these weird, awkward interactions not just with teammates but

1337
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: also with the media, And that led to Brian Westbrook,

1338
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: who has not only been a really really talented player

1339
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but as a guy that I worked with, yes,

1340
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: also made the transition from player to now media star

1341
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: star superstar, like way bigger than us. I can't he's

1342
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: coming on marital but I'm not even sure he knows

1343
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: what this is. I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna

1344
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: call you. What did you give him to come on here?

1345
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: Did you like gift him something? I think he thinks

1346
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: that we're just calling to say hi. This is going

1347
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: to be a running thing. Nobody that comes on the

1348
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: show actually knows they're on this show, all right, So cool,

1349
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: let's get them on the phone. Hello, b West, It's Gonzo.

1350
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: How are you, buddy Man? I can't get play at all. Um,

1351
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: So I'm here with Colleen. What's up, Brian? How are you? Hey, Coleen?

1352
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm good. I'm good. So, believe

1353
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: it or not, we're doing uh and most of the

1354
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: people who are actually here can't believe it. But we're

1355
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: doing a podcast called marital Blitz. And we thought he

1356
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: right exactly, you know my weirdoes sense of humor. So

1357
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: we thought that we'd call you because we saw this

1358
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: this um tweet from Pat McAfee to Antonio Cormarti where

1359
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: he's sort of like busting Antonio Carmarti's chops about like

1360
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: coming into the fold because they had like a weird

1361
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: thing back in the day. So we were wondering uh

1362
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: from you, like when you're in the locker room, like

1363
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: what kind of weird, strange interactions have you had with

1364
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: other teammates or have you witnessed Because you were there

1365
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: during the Teo mcnabbara um that was like a really

1366
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: interesting time but also sort of like a divisive time.

1367
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: Do you remember any good stories you can spend for us?

1368
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh Man, that's a that's a good question to me.

1369
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know what that's the most interesting,

1370
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: but the most uh active story was when Teo and

1371
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: Hugh does this get in through a fright? This story

1372
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean it, it was. It was. It

1373
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: was one of those things where he was on the

1374
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: radio at the time, so he wasn't even playing for

1375
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 1: the team, but he was the ambassador for the team

1376
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 1: and he was and I was in the training room

1377
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: just hanging out, chilling, and Hugh at the time was

1378
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: on the radio and he had said some things about

1379
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: Teo's basically that he was kind of soft and things

1380
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: like that, negative things, and so Hugh just happened to

1381
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: come into the training room that day, and I have

1382
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: to believe that he knew t O would be at

1383
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: least during the locker room or around the training room.

1384
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: So I have to believe that he knew at some

1385
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 1: point it would it would it would come to blows,

1386
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,480
Speaker 1: or at least they would have some words. And so, um,

1387
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: I'm in the training room and right directly behind me

1388
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: is as a glass wall. But there is the on

1389
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: the other side of the glass wall. It's the pool

1390
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: where Teo is in their training And so he was

1391
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: working out because I think he had an ankle injury

1392
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: at the time. And and um, he sees Hugh and

1393
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: so now me and you were talking, and so he

1394
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: sees Hugh and he said, hold on for one minute.

1395
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: And so they're kind of like jawing at each other

1396
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: through the glass. He do want to really hear, and

1397
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: so Teo says, hold on for one minute. He raises

1398
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: the floor from the bottom of the pool up. So

1399
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: now that he initially was six feet of water, now

1400
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: he's raising and raising himself up. So just imagine him

1401
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: raising himself out of the water like he was a

1402
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: cord or something like that. And and he comes out

1403
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: of that room and Hugh takes a swing. Teo ducks

1404
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: and you know a couple of punches were exchanged and

1405
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: at that point they kind of started wrestling. But we

1406
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: we saw how strong TiO was. He was able to

1407
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: pick Hugh Douglas, who's a big man, up off the floor,

1408
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: and um, you know, between them wrestling, it was a

1409
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: pretty interpresting scene. And then you know, it took five

1410
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: or six guys to get Teo off and five or

1411
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: six guys to get h off. And so now you know,

1412
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: in the season where we had so much turmoil already

1413
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: because we weren't playing very well, and TiO and and

1414
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: Andy Reid that got into it at the beginning of

1415
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: the year, now we have a fight on our hands,

1416
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: and things went downhill very quickly from there. I love

1417
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: that he was the ambassador at the time. He's like,

1418
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: here's here's what I gonna do as the ambassador, to

1419
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: go fight That dude raised himself out of water like that.

1420
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean that that's such an amazing visual. I like

1421
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: that you had a front row seat for that too.

1422
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: But so you all right, so you've had those interactions

1423
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: in the locker room, and then you transition to the media.

1424
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: And I was telling everybody before we called you that

1425
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: you and I did the post postgame show for the

1426
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: Eagles for the last two years, and you and I

1427
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: not upset that we're not doing it this year. I'm

1428
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: happy about um. But now you're that you're part of

1429
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: the media. What were your interactions like with the media

1430
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: in the locker room, because Colleen and I were talking

1431
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: about so I think I told you Colleen and I

1432
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: actually met in the Eagles locker room. It's weird, right,

1433
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: So weird atmosphere in there. It's a weird atmosphere, and

1434
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: it's like, we know, it's weird for you guys because

1435
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're coming off the field and you're

1436
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: getting changed and you've got cameras, you're trying to like

1437
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: go to meetings and get showered, and there's people ask

1438
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: you questions and then but for us to like it's

1439
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: equally weird because you know, here we are, we're trying

1440
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: to do a job, but also part of our job

1441
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: entails talking to dudes in various states of undressed and

1442
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: sort of like I felt like a stalker a lot

1443
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: of times too, because I would sort of wait by

1444
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: somebody's locker and then like sort of follow them, like

1445
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: if they came out of the shower, you would sort

1446
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: of have to like be the locker. It was like

1447
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: a very just strange, weird social environment right when you

1448
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: when you were a player, and then after you transition

1449
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: to the media, Like, what was that dynamic for you,

1450
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: Like for you did you did you get any different

1451
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: take on it once you went into the media or

1452
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: how did you feel about it at the time. Well,

1453
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me was as a player,

1454
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: everyone is always waiting for you. Everyone wants you to

1455
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: be there. And if you're supposed to be there at twelve,

1456
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: all the media and things like that, the reporters, they'll

1457
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: be there at the eleven waiting and and and you

1458
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: can come at twelve fifteen and everyone's still happy to

1459
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: see because they need you for that sound clip or

1460
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: whatever that is that you're trying to do a story on.

1461
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: And it's flips and so as a player, you feel important.

1462
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: You also, you know, you kind of take your time

1463
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: to your own thing, but when you become a media individual,

1464
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: at that point get flipped. And so you could be

1465
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting for twenty or thirty minutes for a

1466
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: guy into just to do an interview, to do a

1467
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: three minute interview, and then you're like, okay, man, this

1468
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: is enough. And but the truth is as a media person,

1469
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: as the individual in the media, you have to ben

1470
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: wait and you have to be happy when you when

1471
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to talk to a guy. So

1472
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: it was a big not a shock to me, but

1473
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: it was something that I didn't really realize or think

1474
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: about it as a player. One of those things that

1475
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: I didn't um take into consideration. Most of the time,

1476
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: I was on time anyway, but I know a lot

1477
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: of guys that kept media people waiting hours just to

1478
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: get interviews, and it was always tough for those guys.

1479
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, now that I'm in the media,

1480
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: is I have a different perspective of it. One more

1481
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: before we let you go, and this has absolutely nothing

1482
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: to do with anything we've been talking about. It was

1483
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: just something that Colleen and I wanted to run past

1484
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: you because I also have another one too before but

1485
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: well after that, all right, so two more, alright, I

1486
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: know which one you want to talk about? All right? So, uh,

1487
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: for those of you guys who don't know, Brian Westbrook

1488
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: is a handsome man. He knows how to dress well,

1489
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: well go on television. That guy has I said I

1490
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: sat next to him for two years, and I'd be like,

1491
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: I gotta step my clothes game up. Um. So Colleen

1492
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: and I were talking bus the other day about the

1493
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: ripped jean phenomenon for ladies. It's a cool thing again dudes,

1494
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: though not as cool as some dudes try to pull

1495
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: it off jeans. Why do you think that it's a

1496
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: better look for ladies than it is for dudes. Well,

1497
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, I actually don't feel that way. I actually

1498
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: owned a couple of pair of ripped John. But he's cool.

1499
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: You can pull it off. It is, it is cool.

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: You have to get back into it. John said, John,

1501
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: you're a flashy dresser, dresser too, but you're kind of

1502
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: not basic but the type of thing that you'd like.

1503
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: And so the ripped James proudly isn't your look. But

1504
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: maybe just trying one time one time, I said, I

1505
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: said so many good things about him before we came on,

1506
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: and He's like, John's a little bass basic is the best?

1507
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: So good? All right? So I need to know. We

1508
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: were talking earlier about Donovan McNabb um in the Super Bowl.

1509
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: What happened with Donovan McNabb Oh you're talking about that?

1510
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: Did he actually throw up and this is this is

1511
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 1: where my concussion starts to make everything a little wash.

1512
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: For five retirement, that's right, his number, his jersey retirement.

1513
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you can't do you know what I'll

1514
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: say about Donovan was a great teammate, UM, great competitor.

1515
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: He willed us to a lot of wins throughout my career. Um.

1516
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: As far as the Super Bowl goes, I don't even

1517
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: really remember, but I know one thing. When it was

1518
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: time to strap it up and go out there on

1519
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: the field, there's no other competitor I would want to

1520
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: walk out there on the field with other Donovan's nab

1521
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: as my quarterback. I'll tell you that. Oh my god,

1522
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: I felt about Brian Westbrook when we sat there and

1523
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: talked about fault. When I am nobody, I want to

1524
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: sit there and when I am Bryan Westbrook. We miss you, buddy.

1525
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for everything. You're a superstar. Thanks so much, Ryan, Colleen,

1526
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Take here a. He's the best.

1527
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: You're so basic. Yes that is awesome. Everybody tweet John

1528
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: and tell him that he's basic. What's your Twitter again?

1529
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know you got the underscore going. I

1530
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: used to have a check mark and everything I've really

1531
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: fallen far. I had a job where they paid me

1532
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: money and I had a check mark on my Twitter

1533
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: a count and then I left and everything creator. Now

1534
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting called names by people I used to work with.

1535
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: John turned to me one day and said, oh my god,

1536
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: I am rupturing Twitter followers averaging averaging. That is also true.

1537
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 1: All right, So we got one more thing for you guys.

1538
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: So Colleen saw something that came up this week, so

1539
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: everybody saw it. Tom Brady with the scissors, um his

1540
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: quote was kind of my favorite. He was like, I

1541
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: was ready to go, I had everything on. I was

1542
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: just trying to get something out of my shoe. The

1543
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: scissors slipped. So we were talking about bizarro off the

1544
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: field sports injuries. Yeah, because I mean, and I've made

1545
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: this point before, but I think it bears making again.

1546
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: In the history of shoes and scissors, you've never used

1547
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: one to get something out of the other. I don't

1548
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: know where he came up with this radical idea. I'm

1549
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: sure like it had to have been his cleats. He

1550
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: was getting something out of his cleats. Okay, I mean

1551
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: again my point the old scissors, John, could you hand

1552
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: me the old shoe machette. I'm gonna get in and

1553
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: take something out of that's what he means. We should

1554
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: send him a shoomer. We had thought about that, but

1555
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: so we went through bizarre injuries, because yes, I went

1556
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 1: through can't hear anything our house with the fans and

1557
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: the television was so we decided to talk about bizarre injuries. Yeah,

1558
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: so we made some dinner the other night and then

1559
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: when we ranked them, there was a lot of discussion

1560
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: and a lot of disagreement, but we finally have our rankings. Wait,

1561
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: so it's important to note though that these are football

1562
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: injuries or football players only. Obviously the NFL one of

1563
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: us works there. Uh. And the other thing is the

1564
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,839
Speaker 1: other one does not. Uh. These are also off field

1565
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 1: random injury. So I had like really pushed hard for grammatica.

1566
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: Who would I think? It was? Bill? Right, there's like

1567
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: twelve Grammaticus. They're like more Grammaticus than there are plus

1568
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: justin Houston Stephen Talak like yeah, so he he had

1569
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: jumped up and like hurt himself and whatever. So these

1570
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: are only off field injuries. So we came up with

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01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: a comprehensive list. Okay, so we have our top five,

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: Top five, number five, and this is like kind of

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: our weakest, So maybe number five. If you guys have

1574
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: a better one that you want to throw at us,

1575
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: send it our way. Don't at the list yet. Which

1576
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: this is the this is a week one. The weakest

1577
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: link is five. It's Darren McFadden recently breaking his elbow

1578
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: trying to save his iPhone. I think he can afford

1579
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: afford an iPhone. We've all sort of been there with

1580
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 1: the crack screen. It's not a good look, pretty annoying.

1581
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: But come on, also, Darren McFadden, I guess next time,

1582
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: hurt yourself more for Colleen's amusement, Like, so you try harder,

1583
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: try to get hurt harder, so you could be a

1584
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: better Number five. I guess yeah, And I thought it

1585
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: was funny. Number four. This was Brian Greasy back in

1586
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: the day. If you guys, there are a lot of you, Sydney.

1587
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you were born in two

1588
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: thousand two. When were you born? I was so two

1589
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: thousand two, Sydney just barely walking at that at that point.

1590
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: But Brian Greasy was a quarterback, and um, how old

1591
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: did you think Sydney was? I don't. She's super young.

1592
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think that's a compliment. I

1593
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm drowning in Brian Greasy the first time

1594
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: I've been mistaken for high school students. Colleen too, she

1595
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: gets carded all the time. But so Brian Greasy couldn't

1596
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 1: play for a while because he said that his Golden

1597
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Retriever pushed him down the stairs. So bad dog, I guess.

1598
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but Brian Greasy down the stairs. But

1599
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: like you walked, we have two dogs, into walk them.

1600
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't pant. I don't do any of the walking.

1601
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: Coleen just came home with dogs and was like, here,

1602
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: now walk them. But I've seen them like sort of

1603
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: drag you down the steps pretty strong. I'm probably league

1604
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: going to teach Dasher how to push you down the steps,

1605
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: and he's pretty straw. As a quick aside, we got

1606
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: our first dog because I wanted a dog. So Colleen

1607
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: brought the dog home for Christmas and we named the

1608
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: dog Blitzen. And then she just came home with another

1609
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: dog and we named it well. His name was Doug,

1610
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty cool. And then her family

1611
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: got another dog and they named it vixen. So now

1612
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: we're a whole weirdo troop of dogs named after reindeer.

1613
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: It's weird number number number number three, our very own

1614
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: Nate Burlison got into the accident while he was trying

1615
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: to rescue two deep dish pizzas, one with pepperoni, that

1616
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: was sliding off of his seat in his car. So

1617
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: he broke his arm in the accident. And you know what,

1618
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: I have no problem with this because if pizza was

1619
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: falling off the seat in my car, I would have

1620
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: done the same thing. Who hasn't broken their arm reaching

1621
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: for pizza. I think if there was just one pizza,

1622
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: he would have let it go. But like, what two?

1623
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: It's now you're a deep dish with pepperoni. Yeah, your

1624
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: pot committed at that point as the poker player. Also,

1625
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Nate Burlison owns vans the shoes with pizza slices on them.

1626
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a connection there, but to

1627
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: himself the way. So he does the Morning show right, Yeah,

1628
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: he's in New York. Now we have to have him

1629
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: on to talk about the pizza fiasco. Let's have everybody

1630
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: from that show on. I think I think they're big

1631
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: fans of marital Blake's way to ingratiate ourselves with the

1632
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: greater NFL network family to have not his horrible, horrible mishap. Yeah,

1633
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: so let's do that. Okay. How about number two Brandon Marshall. Yeah,

1634
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: number two was Brandon Marshall who said he slipped on

1635
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: a McDonald's rapper, which then caused him to fall through

1636
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: his entertainment center, which then led to multiple lacerations on

1637
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: his arms. So it's not funny, it's evident. But every

1638
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: time I hear this makes me laugh because watching people

1639
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: slip and fall is like one of the funniest things

1640
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: in the world to me. I don't know why. I'm sorry,

1641
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: can I this? This This is also true? Another quick aside,

1642
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: we're at our house in Philadelphia. I was at our

1643
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: house in Philadelphia. Collin was here. Uh and are We

1644
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: have Trinity stairs. So for those of you who don't

1645
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: live on the East Coast, they're basically like it's like

1646
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: climbing a ladder. They're really steep and they rotate upward right.

1647
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: It's not like a normal staircase. So they're very steep.

1648
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: And I was sober on the third floor and missed

1649
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: a step and realized that I had missed a step

1650
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: and that like this is It's all over for me now.

1651
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: So I tumbled down the stairs and I do the

1652
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: car will and I crashed through this dog gate and

1653
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm laying on the ground and I'm just moaning and

1654
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: my hip hearts and the dogs are sniffing around me.

1655
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: I was there for I felt like I needed a

1656
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: medical alert bracelet like the Olds have. So after I

1657
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: was really starting to worry about John living alone at

1658
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: this point our relationship. I called her and I explained

1659
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: what had happened, and after she stopped laughing when we

1660
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: talked about if I was okay, I was like, what

1661
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the dogs do? They were just sort of watching you

1662
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: to make a shade off of walls whatever. But back

1663
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: to Randon Marshall. One of the other funny things. I

1664
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: went back and looked at some of the old articles

1665
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: about it and Adam Schefter when he used to work here. Uh.

1666
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: The one article pointed out that Brandon Marshall had texted

1667
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,919
Speaker 1: him and said, um, it's funny because I pride myself

1668
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: on yak and being one of the toughest players to

1669
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: take down once I have my hands on the ball.

1670
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: So for the next couple of days, I'm going to

1671
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: take the time to build my confidence back up after

1672
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: allowing that McDonald's Big Mac to take me down and

1673
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: send me through the entertainment center sacked by a McDonald's rapper.

1674
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: That happens to the best of us. And then the

1675
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: less one's indisputable. Anybody who wants to dispute this, you're wrong,

1676
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: because this guy has not one, but two freak injuries.

1677
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: Not a star player, doesn't matter, played football. His name

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Speaker 1: is Chris Hansen. He was a putterer for the Jags.

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01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: First injury, freak injury. So who was the head coach?

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: It was del Rio at the time, right, yes, del

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01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Rio brought like an axe to the Jaguars practice. This

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01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: might have been the second injury, but we're gonna do

1683
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: that one first because the second one is even better.

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01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: And and he it was like a reminder for people

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01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: to keep chopping or keep working or some weird metaphor.

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: The ax incident. The axe man took it, Chris Hansen

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01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: took this and went and to chop this wood and

1688
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: missed and hit his non kicking foot and chopped his foot.

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01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: So that's bad. That's not how Jack del Rio envisioned

1690
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: the whole motivational scenario working. When you get to number two,

1691
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: then you're like, I don't know, man, you gotta wrap

1692
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: yourself in bubble wrap. This was in two thousand two,

1693
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and uh, I guess he was at home with his wife.

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01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: And this is not a funny story. This is very

1695
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: serious though. The uh so they were He was severely

1696
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: burned when a fon du pot overturned on the floor.

1697
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: So Hanson suffered first and second degree burns on both

1698
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: his hands and his right ankle. And um, I have

1699
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: another quote here. He said it's basically dark Man because

1700
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: he was eating fondu. That's a weird nineties movie reference,

1701
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: but it's true. So this is awful. It said, it

1702
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: happened so fast. We were moving the fon dupot when

1703
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: it slipped onto the tile floor at my house. Then

1704
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: my wife fell into it. I know, tell how big

1705
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: was the fon du pot. It's very like that was

1706
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: a very serious thing. She suffered some serious burns. But like,

1707
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: what who even uses fon dupots? That's like the big

1708
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: wedding gift that everybody gets. And then just like sticks

1709
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,879
Speaker 1: in the cabinet and dust sort of just like envelopes

1710
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: the box. I haven't seen a fon dupot ever. Apparently

1711
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: they broke it out. Let that be a lesson to you. Uh,

1712
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: don't order your coffee too hot because remember like that

1713
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: lady suit, because your wife could fall into it, right,

1714
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: your wife could fall into your coffee pot. All right,

1715
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: So that wraps up the show. Another show the books,

1716
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I know exactly. Um, So guys, thank you so much,

1717
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: everybody behind the glass, everybody out there still listening. If

1718
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: you're still there, anybody still thank you? That is great. Um,

1719
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: please keep tweeting us. Your feedback was awesome last week. Uh, Sydney,

1720
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: great job, TD. Thank you so much. This is tds

1721
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: last week here at NFL Media. I think it's very

1722
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: important to tell you, from the bottom of our heart,

1723
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,879
Speaker 1: where would we be without you? Yeah, this show wouldn't

1724
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: be the mega juggernaut tacked onto the back end of

1725
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the A T N podcast on a Friday that it

1726
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: has become. So thank you. Yes, and the Irishman thank

1727
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: you so much. He's been busting it behind the scene

1728
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: to help us as well. Mark Brady, everybody here, thank you,

1729
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: thank you. Um and uh, one final question for you, John,

1730
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: have you found a job yet. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: if there's a next week