WEBVTT - No Bias, Just Simone Boyce

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effect Network.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Y'all's your girl? A j a holiday? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Big Tam bam.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all, It's official team man. I love y'all so so

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<v Speaker 2>very much. I love you agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I just be smiling where you do your part

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<v Speaker 1>and I love you bad.

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<v Speaker 2>How was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>You know how to fuck? My weekend on was okay?

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<v Speaker 2>With the world don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Prepared to record all day. I didn't have a weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I really didn't. I'm still exhausted and working through

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend right now. Okay, So that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm half dad, y'all. I'm making it. I'm drinking macha

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<v Speaker 1>like the soft life bitches do, and it ain't.

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<v Speaker 2>Working, y'all. We filmed four episodes for y'all over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>so we got some content for y'all, not just audio

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<v Speaker 2>but visual. So those will be up very soon, so

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<v Speaker 2>y'all stay tuned for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll try to be consistent. You know, you might

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<v Speaker 1>need to ask for a GoFundMe donations right to afford

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<v Speaker 1>all this shit, but we're working on it. Tell you

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<v Speaker 1>might have to, you might have to pop some pussy.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you girl? I don't got no pussy. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bring my pussy. I'll never bring my pussy with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in at my fama house. Saved the deposit box.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's Steven the six might as well. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>we have going on this week and in the world

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<v Speaker 1>aside from being at fucking war right now? David Banner

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<v Speaker 1>says he refuses to do business with men who cheat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, David Banner. Now, I guess he can never

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<v Speaker 1>be a man that cheats because he don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a fucking relationships right. Where's your wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I love David Banner. I think he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>finest black men out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Fo So David Banner refuses to do business with men

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<v Speaker 1>who cheat on their wives based on advice from a mentor, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you will cheat in your relationship, you will

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<v Speaker 1>cheat in business.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Banner believes that trust and integrity are essential in business

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<v Speaker 1>and personal relationships. Banner expressed his belief that he does

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<v Speaker 1>not believe in the devil and that individuals need to

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<v Speaker 1>take responsibility. I'll add accountability, okay, for their actions and

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<v Speaker 1>fix themselves. His views on personal personal responsibility and self

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<v Speaker 1>improvement sparked an interesting conversation during an interview with Shannon Sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree one point two to three million percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. I love that let's start holding men

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<v Speaker 2>accountable for cheating, I mean other men, because they'll, like

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned, they'll hold each other for accountable for being

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<v Speaker 2>bad fathers, but they'll let each other cheat. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, because you know you don't have to cheat, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you could actually be in a relationship with somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>okay with you having a variety. That is actually a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But men are tricking people into monogamous relationships a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times. Not just men like tell me like the ad,

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<v Speaker 1>not just men man, my dad tell girl. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about these niggas, and obviously these niggas know how these

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<v Speaker 1>niggas are right because David Bannon ain't going forward. So

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<v Speaker 1>get into business with somebody who knows that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>good at business. Come over here with that badass business,

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<v Speaker 1>is what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, I'm with that after David Banner, we must just

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<v Speaker 2>slide in his DMS.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, I'm already in there. It's just like he

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<v Speaker 1>both of ours. No, bitch, keep him at my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Cardi B announced this new album finally to get an

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<v Speaker 2>album out of Cardi B. So Cardi b sophomore album

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<v Speaker 2>finally has a release date, with the superstar revealing Monday

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<v Speaker 2>that I Am the Drama will come out one through

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic Records. I can't wait to hear. And we have

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<v Speaker 2>not had an album from her since twenty eighteen, with

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<v Speaker 2>her her debut Invasion of Privacy, which went on to

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<v Speaker 2>win a Grammy for Best Rap Album in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>and went four times platinum.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>She is one of the highest paid rappers right off

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<v Speaker 1>of one album.

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<v Speaker 2>Off of one album.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Nicki Minaj, really, don't, you know, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>the comparison. Nicki Minaj don't have a whole bunch of albums.

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<v Speaker 1>She probably she probably dragged out that first album for

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<v Speaker 1>a few years too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's really dope though, but it's also scary.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he had an album since twenty nineteen and

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<v Speaker 2>it's twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>She can deliver. She's gonna be alright, I love Gardi y'all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, y'all seen this recently. She had like

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<v Speaker 1>a what was she at recently? Because Cardi B Is

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<v Speaker 1>like to me also outside dropped. Yes, she is also

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<v Speaker 1>her best stressed side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she putting that shit on that song is like ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>she really came for all sudden. This song is not

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<v Speaker 2>nice at all. You know, you gotta really have a

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<v Speaker 2>real disdain for your baby daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the word. Yes, that is the word. And

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<v Speaker 1>she has it and I and I see why, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all have. We all share the same

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<v Speaker 1>disdain for offset. Right now, somebody commented off the you

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<v Speaker 1>need to change his name to offset the cheat or

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<v Speaker 1>some shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you still gotta remember, here's the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>your kids are gonna grow up and hear this song,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And that's still you want them to respect

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<v Speaker 2>their daddy, right despite the relationship that you and him hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even if she doesn't put that song out,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids will grow up and realize daddy's be on

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<v Speaker 1>some bullshit sometimes, right, So, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they still realize for themselves and not hear song.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell your mama that she raised a bitch ass nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know something she said like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I've set good on my damn nerves. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he just got whack. Like who else got whack after

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<v Speaker 1>the woman left him? Like males like yeah, like they

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<v Speaker 1>just get whack when that woman takes the energy away,

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<v Speaker 1>because who are you now? Offset ain't in the group

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<v Speaker 1>no more. She paid all that money to get you

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<v Speaker 1>out of your contract with QC. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardi B did it right. She did it right. She

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<v Speaker 1>started her family, she wanted her, she fought for her family.

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<v Speaker 1>She got one baby, daddy three kids. She probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>and now she outside having fun, Okay, outside looking cute,

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<v Speaker 1>running and playing with a nigga. Right and he about

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<v Speaker 1>that life all right?

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<v Speaker 2>So also, a new tour has been announced, the Boy

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<v Speaker 2>is Mine Tour where Brandy, Monica and the others. Wow, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going they're gonna be in Chicago. Like I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the dates. I'm trying to go to the Chicago show.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if ray J. I wonder if y J

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<v Speaker 1>had anything to do do with this, because remember he

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<v Speaker 1>was on Shannon Sharp and he was like, man, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be trying to get them together, and man, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get them to go on tour da da da.

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<v Speaker 1>They just won't do it. And now Henry are.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, we are He manifested that because I would love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the best songs of our young adult

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<v Speaker 2>We wasn't even adult hit or no, we wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We was kidding for sure. They were kids too with

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers no business singing talking about the boy's mine job, please.

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<v Speaker 2>The boy at least what the man is mine? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to one of those cities.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch it on YouTube. I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>Into tracking back a little bit. So Offset was on

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<v Speaker 2>something y'all and he revealed that Sabrina Carpenter as a

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity curse.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh as Sabrina Carpenter. I don't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 2>What Sabrina Carpenter is that big?

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<v Speaker 1>For real?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is she? Google her?

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<v Speaker 1>She's the actress?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, a singer. Offset revealed his celebrity crush to

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<v Speaker 2>be Sabrina Carpenter during the interview with Internet Magician and

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<v Speaker 2>the Guzman. Offset express surprise with Sabrina's name was revealed

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<v Speaker 2>from a crumpled up piece of paper indicating his genuine

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<v Speaker 2>interest in her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was wondering why I was so magic. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>The rapper hinted that potential collaboration with Sabrina as their

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<v Speaker 2>labor as they are labelmates, suggesting a future look up

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio despite his previous involvement with Cardi B.

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<v Speaker 2>Offset did not acknowledge her new album announcement, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why would he?

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<v Speaker 1>Because of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna send you some of her ship because she dope.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Does she just have a baby and she has hispanic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't tell. She could be white

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<v Speaker 2>or anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all, y'all know I ain't really hip. We got it,

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<v Speaker 1>We got a You would know her if you saw

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<v Speaker 1>her though. She's very okay, I see her. She had

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<v Speaker 1>an album that just came out. I'm not gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>y'all where I saw it on because I feel like arguing.

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<v Speaker 1>But she has an album that just came out, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she like getting dog walk on on the cover

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<v Speaker 1>of the album. Let me sing if it's the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, she's white.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she got a new album that just that's dropping in.

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<v Speaker 1>She got an album dropping in August called Man's best

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<v Speaker 1>Friend and on the album cover like she's on her

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<v Speaker 1>knees touching a man's leg and he has everybody here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess she's saying she a bitch. Wasn't she

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<v Speaker 1>on Nickelodeon?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I don't know her history, but she had this

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<v Speaker 2>song Espresso that was her hit that sit here in

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<v Speaker 2>the start on Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well whatever, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 1>on Disney and Nickelodeon. Bitch. I know I ain't tripping,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I know once I saw the face. Yes, interesting. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll set.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all. We have a guest on the show today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking journalism, AI, what the future holds for media and

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<v Speaker 2>all things Simone Boyce, you guys, so stay tuned, will

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<v Speaker 2>be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all. So we are back and today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking truth, tea and takedowns or maybe not. Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>living in the era of clickbait, clickbait culture, so journalistic

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<v Speaker 1>integrity is super important, but facts don't always go viral

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<v Speaker 1>a right, So today's guest is an Emmy nominated journalist

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<v Speaker 1>and producer. She's a fellow podcaster co host of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bright side and an on camera host who's covered everything

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<v Speaker 1>from Capitol Hill to Hollywood red carpets, Simone Boys, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to We Talked Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy to be here, y'all. She a Battie too,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're here, Yes, she's also at Batti. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just threw together this whole seven minute beat before I

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<v Speaker 3>hopped on here, so period.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, listen, I was trying to put on our ab.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not good at it. Okay, let me.

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<v Speaker 3>I might be able to help because I have spent

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<v Speaker 3>decades putting on fake eyelashes in the back of a

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<v Speaker 3>news van, like that's going seventy miles per hour on

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<v Speaker 3>a highway. So maybe do you put do you make

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<v Speaker 3>the glue? Do you let it dry a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>before you put it on? So I started doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I started trying to let it dry a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>before I put it on, but then I think I

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<v Speaker 2>overdry it, so then like the outsides are sticking, but

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<v Speaker 2>the inside is flapping up, and then I just throw

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<v Speaker 2>that shit. I just I get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just the worst whenever you have that like one

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<v Speaker 3>part of it that's just flapping up. I can always

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<v Speaker 3>tell the next day when I look at my pictures,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, damn, I should have brought my glue.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, definitely travel glue. I use that weave glue.

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<v Speaker 2>You you glue your lashes down with weave glue.

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<v Speaker 1>I do sometimes like some I always carry like the

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<v Speaker 1>real lace glue, I mean, the real lash glue. But

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely be using that weave glue. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the difference, right, It's going to the same It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you say them here trying to make us pay

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<v Speaker 3>for the same products over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lash goop class more than we've Okay, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have real eyelashes though, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we've glued is snatching your eyelashes out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I take my lashes off every day, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>never had voluptuous eyelashes or eyebrows for that matter. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>same one.

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<v Speaker 2>You gonna have new lanx. All right, come on, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into simone. Let's talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do I was about to keep going on lashes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you're the host.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. Great. So I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You've worn many hats. News anchor entertainment reporter, cultural commentator

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<v Speaker 2>who is Simon Boys off camera outside of a LASH expert.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny about me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have had a serious job for so many years,

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<v Speaker 3>but I am so un serious off camera, and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>probably get to know that about me during the course

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<v Speaker 3>of this conversation. But I love to have fun. I

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<v Speaker 3>love to goof off. I was the class clown. I

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<v Speaker 3>still got big class clown energy. Oh yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a goofy girl for real. I just I'm good

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<v Speaker 3>at code switching.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting code switching. Do you think you tend to have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that a lot in the industry you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I've always just I just always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to always just have, you know, a profession where I

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<v Speaker 1>could just be myself. Right, So do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to code switch a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually do think you have to code switch a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna front with you. It's more about

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<v Speaker 3>just understanding the environment that you're in and understanding the

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<v Speaker 3>responsibilities that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say that it varies.

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on what aspect of media that you work in.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was a national news correspondent at NBC News

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<v Speaker 3>definitely had to code switch because I was I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about very serious topics, you know, so I can't

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<v Speaker 3>bring I can't bring my goofy, lighthearted self whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about tragedies on the air. However, as a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a lot less code switch. I

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<v Speaker 3>think podcasting is a wonderful venue and wonderful media format

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<v Speaker 3>because it does allow us to really show up as

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<v Speaker 3>we are, and that's who the audience responds to the most. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't y'all find that too in hosting your show.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, we need to come and be ourselves and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best part about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know the people who frequent our personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's who's going to gravitate towards your content.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it is much easier. I couldn't imagine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being on NBC News in acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Having to assimilate all the time acting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, and I you know what I think

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<v Speaker 3>the best correspondents do is they're able to bring a

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<v Speaker 3>piece of themselves to the work that they're doing. And

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<v Speaker 3>that was always my goal is like, Okay, how can

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<v Speaker 3>I be how can I show up as a real

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<v Speaker 3>human whenever I'm telling this story, and then how can

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<v Speaker 3>I bring out the humanity out of the people that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm featuring in this story. So I think the best

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<v Speaker 3>correspondence and the best anchors they do know how to

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<v Speaker 3>bring a piece of themselves while also so giving the

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<v Speaker 3>audience that sense of safety and authority they need whenever

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<v Speaker 3>stuff's going down, you know, and they just need the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about Bryce thatd I know you have

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<v Speaker 2>a co host? Did you pick your co host or

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<v Speaker 2>did Reese Witherspoon pick your co host? Like how did

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<v Speaker 2>y'all come about like starting your podcast? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>So for this, it's so funny how that worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had a co host last season. Her name

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<v Speaker 3>is Danielle robe I love her dearly. She is actually

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<v Speaker 3>someone that I didn't know personally, but I knew of

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<v Speaker 3>her because we had a lot of mutual friends for years.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's really funny how this happened because last was

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<v Speaker 3>it last summer or the summer before. A mutual friend

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<v Speaker 3>of ours was like, Simone, you need to meet Danielle.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I've been talking about her for years, but

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<v Speaker 3>you guys got to link up. And I was like, yes, Okay, great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, traveling right now, but when I come

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<v Speaker 3>back and when i'm stationary, I would love to meet her.

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<v Speaker 3>A few months later, we got matched together for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So it just felt really kismet that we had these

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<v Speaker 3>people in our lives who were mutual friends and then

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of just got brought together and we really

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<v Speaker 3>hit it off. And it's very bettersweet because this season

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<v Speaker 3>I am hosting The bright Side solo. Danielle is hosting

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<v Speaker 3>a new podcast for Hello Sunshine, because we're expanding our

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<v Speaker 3>podcast footprint. She's hosting one called Bookmarked and it's all

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<v Speaker 3>about Reese's book Club. But I do cherish the memories

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<v Speaker 3>that we had the first season, y'all. We had so

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<v Speaker 3>much fun. I know y'all tour too, so we would,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, go to south By Southwest or go travel together,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just got so many stories.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was a lot of fun having a

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<v Speaker 2>co host.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>So y'all are separating. I did not know that that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are going our own journeys, but we're still

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<v Speaker 3>going to overlap a little bit here and there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so have you already started doing shows alone?

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<v Speaker 3>I have, yes, Oh, yes, we've got not sure when

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation is coming out, but probably a good handful

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<v Speaker 3>of shows under our belt now with me as the host.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for you now, being biracial, being a biracial woman

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<v Speaker 2>like affected in shape, the way you tell your story,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it has. I think it has. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very careful how I tried around this conversation because

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<v Speaker 3>don't nobody want to hear no biracial tears? Myself included,

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<v Speaker 3>you can do it here. No, no, no, do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear no biracial tears? But I will say

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that growing up mixed race, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of didn't know where to fit in and I experienced,

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<v Speaker 3>I experienced a feeling of being othered by multiple communities.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what that allowed me to do is

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to build bridges between different communities and learn

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<v Speaker 3>how to understand people from all walks of life and

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<v Speaker 3>start conversations with people who look different than me or

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<v Speaker 3>came from different backgrounds to me. So I think it

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<v Speaker 3>gave me a lot of curiosity culturally about wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>learn about different cultures. And also I hope that it

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<v Speaker 3>gave me this knack for connection and conversation, and so

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<v Speaker 3>those are two things that I brought to my career

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<v Speaker 3>as a journalist. I also just wanted to always tell

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<v Speaker 3>stories that we're giving a voice to underrepresented voices. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think that's all shaped by the perspective

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<v Speaker 3>that I developed growing up as a mixed race child.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you ever feel pressure to represent for your

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<v Speaker 1>race or gender and space is where they really weren't

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<v Speaker 1>built for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good question. I think that I think that

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<v Speaker 3>it's I've felt a good pressure. I think there's been

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<v Speaker 3>a really good pressure over the course of my career

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<v Speaker 3>as a journalists. I've been in this game for almost

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years, and I think you know, about five years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>when we saw the social and racial unrest of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>that really became this rallying cry for change, for impact,

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<v Speaker 3>for justice, and also for more accuracy and better representation

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<v Speaker 3>in how we tell stories and in how the media

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<v Speaker 3>tells stories. I see it as I see it as

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<v Speaker 3>good pressure. I'm not one to to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I resent any kind of pressure like that, because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I any opportunity that I get to represent for

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<v Speaker 3>black folks, for mixed race folks, for anybody who is underrepresented.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a true honor and privilege to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that is our superpower as storytellers, is being able

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<v Speaker 3>to hone in on what your unique POV is, because

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<v Speaker 3>that POV, that's one in a million. No one else

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have the same POV that you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is my POV shaped by, you know, being

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<v Speaker 3>the daughter of a black mom and a white dad,

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<v Speaker 3>But I also moved around a lot when I was

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<v Speaker 3>growing up. I grew up in Miami, then I moved

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<v Speaker 3>to Memphis, Tennessee, and then I moved back to Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I moved to LA and New York as

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<v Speaker 3>a journalist. So moving around and just meet it, like

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying earlier, like meeting people from all different

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<v Speaker 3>types of backgrounds. That is a privilege to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to tell stories that are filtered through our own unique pob.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, if you got a black mama,

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<v Speaker 2>you black culturally, like you black as hell with a

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<v Speaker 2>black mama. I feel like, you know, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a little bit off top. This is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit off topic, right because we did it.

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<v Speaker 2>We did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a few episodes this week, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>them was about like the soft girl era. And I

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<v Speaker 1>posed a question like can only white men offer like

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<v Speaker 1>this soft girl era? So did your mama get a

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<v Speaker 1>soft life or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, this is such a good question. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what's funny is like my mom is actually my

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<v Speaker 3>mom is super traditional. We come from we come from

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<v Speaker 3>a Maryland Maryland PG County, you know, traditional Black Christian family,

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<v Speaker 3>and so my mom is actually quite traditional. She she

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<v Speaker 3>was an actor, and she became a teacher and was

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<v Speaker 3>an educator for many years. But she stayed at home

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<v Speaker 3>while I, you know, while my dad was working and

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<v Speaker 3>while I was at school, and she was a stay

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<v Speaker 3>at home parent. And so I don't know, is that

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<v Speaker 3>the off life? Like I have two kids now, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know what it's like to stay at home with

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<v Speaker 3>your kids for extended periods of time. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if being a stay at home parent is the soft life.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not soft life, It's not soft nothing about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do have to hand it to Shila, my mom,

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<v Speaker 3>because she she is about that soft life though, Like

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<v Speaker 3>now that I think about it, like she loves taking

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<v Speaker 3>her trips to wine country, She loves her Soafvion blanc

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<v Speaker 3>her Veonier like my mom will she will take a

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<v Speaker 3>weekend trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey. Okay, I'm here for it, yes mama, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So let's be really, have you ever had

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<v Speaker 2>to push back against a producer or a network that

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to water you down or order down your

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<v Speaker 2>voice or your point of view?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I definitely have had to push back. Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>there have been so many of these moments. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to think of a specific story. And while I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of that specific story, I'll just say that those

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<v Speaker 3>are the moments where I've really I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 3>really grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>Is when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to you have to state your case as to

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<v Speaker 3>why this is important and why you are the one

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<v Speaker 3>to tell it. You have to find a way to

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<v Speaker 3>defend yourself and like pitch yourself in a way that's

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<v Speaker 3>firm but also professional. And then you got to back

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<v Speaker 3>it up, right, like then you actually gotta you got

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<v Speaker 3>to back it up with the with the final result

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<v Speaker 3>and show that yes, you were the right person to

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<v Speaker 3>tell this story.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember there was there was this really there

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<v Speaker 3>was a scoop that I was really proud of when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a correspondent, had I had found this story

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<v Speaker 3>of this mother and daughter who had been separated on

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<v Speaker 3>their journey to the US. They were coming from South

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<v Speaker 3>America and they had been separated and there were forces

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<v Speaker 3>that were trying to get them back together. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was documenting this process of their reunification and someone male

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 3>correspondent from the network actually had had one of his

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<v Speaker 3>producers call me and ask for the contact to the

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 3>story for the story. He had asked for the mother

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>and daughter for their contact information because he wanted to

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.479
<v Speaker 3>take the story from me. And so this isn't one

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 3>of those situations where I had to push back and

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<v Speaker 3>say why I'm the person to tell the story, but

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I had to say no, this is a scoop that

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 3>was hard fought. I went out there and sourced this.

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I went out there and did the interviews. I built

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the trust. This is something that a lot of people

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 3>don't realize, like it takes time to build trust with

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 3>the people that you're interviewing as a journalist. So that

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 3>was one of those moments where I had to stand

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 3>my ground and say no, I've worked really hard for

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 3>this and you're not just gonna come up in here

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 3>and take this out from under my feet. So it

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 3>does get It can get very very competitive, very intense

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 3>when you're working at the national news level.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something common that someone will just be like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>give me all the information for this shit she was

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 2>working on. I'm gonna go ahead and do it. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that common? It can happen.

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 3>It does happen more than you would think because they're

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 3>a highers when you work at a legacy news network,

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes people think that just because they are working

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>on a more prominent or high profile show than you,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 3>or perhaps they've had more time in the industry, sometimes

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 3>they can just assume that they have the right to

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 3>do that. I have the right to take your hard

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 3>work from you, and that's when we remind them that no,

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 3>you cannot. I found that there are a lot of

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 3>moments like that in my career where it's like just

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 3>being underestimated, you know, and having to Santanto's down and say, no,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 3>you're not. You can underestimate me if you want, but

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to prove you wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Period we talked back, can identify with it completely.

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna I'm sure you have I want to

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 3>hear well.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think so. When we joined the network, people

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>treated us as all right, So we started our show

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.199
<v Speaker 2>on the network, so we didn't like necessarily get it

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 2>out of the mud, you know, Like our first episode

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 2>was on a network, so we were seen as NEPO

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>babies because of our relationship to Charlamagne, and so they

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:00.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't and.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>We embraced that here.

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because more people have to be in position. Yeah,

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>more people need to be in position to put their

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>people on right. I would never be jealous of an

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Apple baby. I wish more black people were in position

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to help their community, you know. But we got a

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>little pushback from other people on the network, you.

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Know that was like do y'all even deserve to be here?

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Kind of energy? You know, and how did you.

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Respond to it or how did you navigate that?

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>We're five years in, so.

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>We're five years in no way and just always kind

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>always you know, looking at the bright side, you know,

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>and be enjoyous about it and just continue to do

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>our thing and still supporting those people who didn't even

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 2>think we belonged here. You know, we didn't, weren't negative

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>or nasty toward anybody. We just and we're going to

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 2>prove to you that we belong here just like you.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, and I think that's the energy given this

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know, we don't put our eyes us

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>on the internet. So that's how we have had to

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 1>get it out the mud because that is the easy route.

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But we are smart and funny black women, so we

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have to stoop to those levels. That's yea, it

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit long, much easier, exactly.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we don't get enough credit for keeping

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 3>our clothes on, to be honest with.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>You, Yeah, right, that is, that's a whole it's a

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>real skill set, it's true. But what is like, what's

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that first story that made you feel like I'm a

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 1>real fucking journalist?

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, but hold on, before you asked that you

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 2>are a real journalist, because how you interviewing us? We

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>ain't supposed to be answering no questions for you? Was like,

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>how did that happen? Well, tell me how that made you?

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 3>You're talking about me, I'm doing that to you. But

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm sorry. I should have I should have

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>stayed the conversation that was going to happen, because I

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 3>can't turn it off at this point.

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. No, it's all right, it's fine.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I prefer conversations. I hate interviews, job interviews, interviews. I

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>prefer like conversational episodes anyway where yeahs too. But what

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was that, like, that one story that made you feel like, man,

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm a real journalist.

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Mmm, okay, Well, honestly, I think even when I think

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>about the very beginnings of my career, I studied broadcast

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 3>journalism at the University of Florida, and this wasn't no

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>fancy story or nothing, but I think it really galvanized

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 3>the fact that I wanted to do this as a career.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I can remember feeling so proud of gathering my first

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 3>radio journalism story. I went out on the streets to

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 3>interview unhouse people about a new ordinance that was going

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>to affect them. And again, this is like just like

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 3>a minor story that I did. I was as a

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 3>college student, but I remember feeling that sense of pride

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 3>about it, that sense of pride of being able to

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>amplify voices that are unheard, And I was like, oh wow,

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I really this feels like an intersection of a lot

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>of things that make me super passionate and just fired up.

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I would say.

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 3>A story that really kind of made me feel like,

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I'm like, we're in the big leagues now.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 3>That was the Mueller Special Council investigation back in twenty nineteen,

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>and that was the first time that I really got

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 3>to go, like in Capitol Hill and you know, just

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>running through the hallways with my crew was I was

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 3>tracking down Congress people in the hallway doing those you know,

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 3>quick interviews, and I was just like, ooh, I can

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 3>feel the electricity of this, and I can feel the

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 3>power of this. And that was a really special moment

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 3>to just be surrounded by so many sharp peers and

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>really the most powerful leaders in our country.

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Now. It le me, actually, this has there ever been

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>a time where you feel like I gotta take a

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>break like this, ain't it. I'm not feeling it. I

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>need a break or I need a pivot because of

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 2>your work.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely, and I did. I did pivot. You know,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't do full time journalism or correspondent

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>work anymore because I kind of got burnt out. I

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>started covering hard news in twenty sixteen, although I had

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>done a lot of entertainment in Hollywood reporting before that.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>So twenty sixteen, jumping in Trump election and from there.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like American politics has become so intense

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>and so ratcheted up. And as someone who covered the

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>election of Trump, who covered COVID, who covered the social

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 3>and racial unrest of twenty twenty, it's it can be

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot, you know. And I've covered shootings, and those

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>are really horrible to be interviewing, you know, the families

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>of people who were victims of shootings. And so I

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 3>had this moment. It was right after the birth of

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 3>my second child, which was a surprise in twenty twenty one.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I had this moment where I had a choice to make.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I could go back to work for my maternity leave,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 3>and my boss had just told me that I was

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be on the road for three weeks out

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of the month I had, you know, a six month

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>baby at this time. Or I could pivot and I

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>could bet on myself and I could take a chance

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 3>and leap and hope that the net would appear. And

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I chose the latter because I knew I was also

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 3>choosing my family too, and the thought of just being

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 3>away from my kids for that long, for that much

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>of their tiny little lives, was just too much for

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>me to bear. So I chose to pivot into freelance

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>reporting and being self employed, and that was I was

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>four years ago now, three or four years ago, and

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't regret it one bit. I can't tell you

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 3>how liberating it is to be able to set my

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>own schedule and choose projects light the bright Side that

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>I really feel aligned with values wise and just that

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>are bringing more optimism and positivity and joy into the world.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>That is the thing that I was craving whenever I

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 3>was in the trenches as a reporter, was just like,

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>can we not just give the people some good news

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 3>every now and then? We've given them a lot of

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 3>bad news? Can we just bring them to joy? So

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that's what I love about what I get to do

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 3>now on the bright Side is like interview experts, celebrities, authors,

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>people who can help us learn on our journey of

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>becoming who we are, but also laugh too, like y'all

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 3>are smart and funny women like we you know, laughter

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>is the real medicine.

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite episode of the bright Side so far?

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>So hard to choose. I'll give you.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you like a top three, so Isa Ray

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>is probably.

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Very high at the top.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I checked that one out.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I love her for all the obvious reasons.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 3>She's such a pioneer and a trailblazer, and I just

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>love I unexpectedly was like super awkward during the interview

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>and then just realized that she was the perfect person

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>to be awkward with because she's the original awkward black girl,

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>and so I just love.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Her for keeping it real.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I also loved interviewing Raven Simone. Ravend is kind of

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>who I've based my entire personality around as a Disney girl,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>someone who watched Disney Channel growing up. Yes, exactly, So

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I would say those two are some of my favorites.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 3>And then recently I just interviewed this woman named doctor

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Emily Anhlt, and she wrote a book called Flex Your Feelings,

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's all about how to strengthen the traits that

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 3>we already have so that we can better design our

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>own life. She talked about self awareness, how that's an

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 3>underrated trait that we all have and we can do

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 3>exercises to build it up. Shelter talked about curiosity playfulness,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 3>which is a big one. I'm really looking for ways

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>to play in my life right now.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Right Well, do you fly?

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a kite.

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I don't. Should I get a kite? Yes?

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Costco has these amazing kites. I got four of them

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're big too. They have like.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Seventy six in every episode.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Like no, I'm staying to tap into that inner child,

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, Like if you don't ride bike,

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fly kite, like, those things help you definitely tap in,

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. In today innerch out is so I'd be

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>so happy flying a kite, okay, and run across this field.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I know people be looking at my butt run across

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the damn field by my house, But it's fun.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I love that for you so much. Get a kite

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 3>like it's the new go touch grass kite.

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Probably would love them. The kids probably would love them too,

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so we're living like in this world where social

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>media a lot of people only get their news and

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm fifteen seconds on Instagram. Yeah okay, so like clicks

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>versus credibility. Okay, how has it chased for views and

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.239
<v Speaker 1>clicks changed things? How news is being produced now? How

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's changed?

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I honestly think that news institutions need to do

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>a better job of meeting audiences where they are absolutely,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>which is on social media, and so I think there's

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>still even more room to be done in that department.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And what I think is going to fill that vacuum

0:33:55.560 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 3>is individual journalists or individual creators. Now they're pros and

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 3>cons to that, because you know, for all the faults

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 3>and flaws that people rightfully point out with the media,

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the media doesn't always get it right.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>The journalists go through training. Not only do they go

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>through you know, their schooling where they might get a

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>degree in journalism, you also go through ethics training when

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 3>you work at one of the big news networks. And

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 3>this is something that we do, we have to do

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 3>every year. And it's okay, how do we how do

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>we know that our story is airtight and we can

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>go to air with this, or how do we know

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 3>that this source is reliable? We go through seminars to

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 3>really reinforce that knowledge. What is risky and what kind

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of makes me nervous about individual creators filling the vacuum

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 3>of journalists or trying to replace journalists is I'm not

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>sure that individual creators have that same level of training.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>And so I think you can see that with large

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 3>scale current events like a war, let's say, if an

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>end if a creator does not report the facts correctly,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>that can further inflame and create more toxicity and and

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 3>perhaps even more danger if they're spreading misinformation, the onus

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 3>is now on the audience to try to decipher, okay,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 3>what's real what's not, and that can be really tricky.

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Like it's even hard for me. I'm someone who's been

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 3>through hours of training and how to detect truth versus falsehood,

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 3>and it's still it's still tough for me. I think

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 3>there are a few things that you can do, though,

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 3>to try to safeguard I mean a lot. It's it's

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>human nature to just read a headline and just want

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 3>to run with it and go tell everyone about it

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 3>or post it. But read the full article, you know,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>do yourself the favor of actually getting the proper context.

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Do a quick fact check. That's pretty easy to do

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 3>through a search engine. There are also media fact check

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 3>websites that you can meet. You think about the fact.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Check stuff on social media though, like you know how

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>they have the fact checkers? Yeah, because what's the truth?

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 1>What is the truth? And how are they determining what's facts?

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Because through COVID, for example, right, a lot of the

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>things that were being fact checked, you know, things that

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>independent journalists were putting out. You can call them TikTok journalists,

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, just regular people who probably were doing like

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>super deep dives on like the medical things around vaccinations

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. We're being fact checked, and now

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>here we are in twenty twenty five and we find

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those things were actually true. Right, So

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>who's checking the fact checkers?

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is a very good question. This

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 3>is a very good question, and I'm not sure we

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>are going to solve this problem today. M I do

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 3>think the more that social media users feel empowered to

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 3>find information for themselves, the more discerning we become as

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.919
<v Speaker 3>social media consumers. I think that's only going to help

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 3>solve this problem. But look, this is going to be

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>an ongoing conversation that involves a lot of different parties,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>the social media companies like you mentioned, different media outlets,

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>de consumers themselves, and also AI is a huge thing.

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Now. I'm shocked as I'm scrolling on social.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Media, scare seeing things that are clearly AI, and nobody

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 3>in the comments is picking up on it.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>They're taking it at face value.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>A week. Are you here really with us?

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Right? That's what we're gonna say, Sion with today's date

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 2>on it, just to make sure you're not even AI,

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 2>like do the robot we can know it, don't you know?

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Don't you notice how AI has like weird movements or something,

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 3>or like the hand is always a little bit off.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like this or something. They're getting better.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is I just feel like this past week

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>they just ramped up a lot of AI ship and

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of Uh. It's really weird though, because

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to know who's behind these It's a lot

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of black stereotype type AI post I've seen in the

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>last week, like super Ratchet, whatever you could think about.

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's being like, I want to know, is it actually

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a black creator behind this or now do we you

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>just have these other people, these others creating a narrative

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>about who black people are now via AI And it's scary.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 3>It is scary. I didn't, I didn't. I don't know

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>if I've seen those. I need to see those. That's

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 3>that is really disconcerting.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Girl is a mess. It is a miss some of

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that they're creating. Do you feel like AI

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 2>could potentially take journalistic jobs.

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't know if the people reporting the news is

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>AI and not so at this one, right, we don't know.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what last week taught me. If I didn't

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>see you in person, I don't know. I haven't seen

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you in person yet. Are we really ever do something?

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>If I ever do anything wrong, I'm blaming AI.

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>What was not me?

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 3>It was my AI twin. I did not do it.

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>It was I promise that movie. Like, that's what's happening

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>right now. Y'all haven't watched the movies movie Surrogate.

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>No, yes, the world watch that movie two day?

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Watch us today?

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Do y'all watch Black Mirror? Yes?

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Same shit.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 3>It's weird to see stuff in Black Mirror come to

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 3>life right off screen. It's very alarming, But I think

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>it's actually I feel like Black Mirror is actually disclosure

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 3>for what has already been happening. And so we talk

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 3>about art imitating life versus life imitating art, but I

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 3>feel like they are now acting out it's biblical. They're

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 3>acting out scenes from the Bible, right, So we don't

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 3>know if what was created first, you know, Black mirra.

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like a lot of that stuff was already happening,

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 3>and then they just threw it into a movie for disclosure.

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Let you know, like, yeah, we're doing this shit.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>This is the Simpsons. We just need to go back

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and watch all the Simpsons episodes. We're telling us everything

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that's happening. They told us if ninety three day this

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 2>shit was going to happen, you know, so we need

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to watch it.

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I got a question for you, as someone who's covered Hollywood,

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 2>that's one celebrity story that had you screaming like, this

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 2>cannot be real. This cannot be real life. Spilty girl,

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 2>It's spilty. Oh my gosh.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can talk about this on

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 3>the show. I'm gonna talk about it anyways. Okay, hold on,

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I have to find this. I have to find this story.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>This is not a.

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Story that I reported, but I came across it when

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I was I guess I was just like on a

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 3>pop culture deep dive one day. So there's this Lee

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Daniels movie called The paper Boy that Nicole Kidman is

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>in with Zac Efron. This is so weird. I can't

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 3>believe I'm telling this story. I just thought this was

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 3>really strange when I came across it. So there's a

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Lee Daniel's movie called The Paper Boy and it's was

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 3>zac Efron and Nicole Kidman, and there's a scene where

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>zac Efron gets stung by a jellyfish, and you know

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>how you're supposed to like pee on someone whenever they

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 3>get stung by a jellyfish and that will make the

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 3>pain go away. So Nicole Kidman actually peed on zac

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Efron for real. He gets no, wait what, No, I

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I really that's a freaky shit right, look

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 3>it up. It's crazy. I couldn't believe that was You

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 3>know your.

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 1>Voice sounds like Amber Rolls a little bit?

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that my voice?

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, hold on, let me change it up real quick.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Let me hold on, let me I'm gonna come up

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 3>in here with a whole different voice.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Now hold on a minute.

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to sound like Ambroe. What came out?

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to sound like me. This is me. I

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know what y'all talking about? Now, STIPs tea. All right.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, what advice would you give

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 2>to a young journalists trying to stay authentic.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Trying to say authentic that thing that you're afraid of

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>that's inside of you, that thing that you're always trying

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to get away from, that thing that you think makes

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 3>you weird. Do it, girl, Just lean into it. Do

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.720
<v Speaker 3>that thing, because that's that's what's gonna set you apart.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>That's your unique superpower. That's that thing, that's that secret sauce.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, I guess, don't try to be

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>an authentic I mean, don't try to be authentic. Just

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>be authentic, Yes, to stay two to yourself.

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 3>But I think, I mean, I feel like I'm still

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>just discovering what it means to be authentic all the time,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to be honest with you, because you know, this is

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 3>this is actually what we were talking about earlier, like

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 3>code switching, like there is there can be this certain

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 3>expectation or to conform or to play it safe. I

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 3>played it safe a lot. I played it safe a

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 3>lot in my career, and that is the enemy of authenticity.

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 3>And what I've found is amazing about getting older is

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 3>just that need to conform or to fit in or

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 3>to do things the way that they've been done is

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 3>really falling away, and it's revealing my true authentic self

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.919
<v Speaker 3>and it's really freeing.

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever gotten in trouble are punished for telling

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>the truth? I don't think so.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I've pissed some people off. Now, I've done some stories

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 3>where people are mad at me, but that's honestly in

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the journalism world, like if especially if you've got both

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 3>sides mad at you, you kind of are doing your

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 3>job because you've found some sort of nuance or you've

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 3>been and fair. That's something that I think we're missing

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of today, is just fairness.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Is there a moment that you couldn't put in a

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>story that you still think about today, Like, damn, I

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 2>wanted to I wanted to say that, I wanted to

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>share that, but I just I couldn't for whatever reason.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there are so many like this. I can't

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 3>think of one specifically, but that is just part of

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the game, and this is this is how it works

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 3>in any creative endeavor. I think like you're always going

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 3>to have people speaking into the final vision, even if

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>you're Martin Scorsese. You've got people at the movie studio

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 3>who are going to tell you what can and can't

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 3>go in the final cut. Some directors get final cut,

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 3>but I think just learning how to take feedback and

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 3>learning how to take those notes and realizing that, oh, yeah,

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to be able to get everything in

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 3>that I want to that I want to say, Like,

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 3>learning that that's part of the job is really healthy.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you know in the current climbate? Can

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>integrity survive in the current media culture?

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm tired. That question just made me tired to think

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 3>about because woof integrity?

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Do we know her?

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Is she still around? She's absolutely around. It's a few

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>people I subscribe to. I'll give an example. I like

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Candis Owens. You know what I'm saying. I feel like

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>she's one of the people who does it right and

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>she gives you sources right, So if she says something

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can go check it out. You know

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when I watch her shows is

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>more of confirmation for things I have already read. Right,

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>But if you are actually just depending on a person

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to give you information, that's probably where you're going wrong

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>at right. So I think she's one of the to me,

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the journalists that actually gets it right and

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 1>has integrity when reporting on what's happened is not just

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>her opinion about things.

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 3>What I've noticed about Candace Owens because I either interviewed

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 3>her or she was tangentially part of a story that

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I did about black Republicans a few years ago. What's

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 3>interesting to me about Candace is that she truly does

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 3>seem to be a free thinker, in that she allows

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 3>herself and gives herself permission to change her beliefs and

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 3>change her ideas, especially you know, as the year's gone on,

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 3>as she would take a certain position on one thing

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>and then has had a change of tune, especially you

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 3>know when it comes to the Trump administration, she's been

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>more critical lately. Does that make you respect her more

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.919
<v Speaker 3>as a voice? How do you feel about the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that she tends to change her beliefs?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that when you are learning, you will

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 1>always be a hypocrite, right because we talked about this yesterday,

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>when you take in new information like what you thought

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>yesterday could definitely change today. I do, like I said,

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I watched Kandice Owen, so I see how she has

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>pivoted regarding to Trump, and so have I. You know

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, because some things he's doing that he

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>said he would do, and then this war shit. No,

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not with that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like anybody who would have gotten in office,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>we would be in war right now. And I think

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who probably voted for him thought

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that we wouldn't be at war right now, you know

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So Canda's owens also thought that they

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be at war. So I don't think that she

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pivots in a way to where it's just like dishonest journalism, though,

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like if you can be objective

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and you can say, hey, I got that wrong and

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>here's why I am today, I can respect somebody like that.

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.479
<v Speaker 2>Are there any platform people doing it right right now?

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<v Speaker 2>To you? Like, did you subs subscribe to?

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you, I don't watch the news

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>as much as I did when I was working in

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 3>that space, and I found that taking a break from

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 3>it was so good for my mental health because I

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 3>used to have it on all the time, all the time.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 3>And I still am a voracious consumer of it. But

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I do I tend to read more, read more articles

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.760
<v Speaker 3>than I do watch or listen because I do feel

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 3>like I'll listen to I'll listen to like New York Times,

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 3>the daily just to get I like how in depth

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 3>their coverage it is. But there's I do find there's

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of sensationalism, a lot of when it comes

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 3>to video or you know, cable news, there's a lot

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 3>of kind of extreme opinions or extreme attitudes, and I'm

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm always trying to go for the least I want

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 3>to hear the least extreme opinion. And there's actually a

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 3>tool that I really like is called blind Spot.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that the is that the one where they like

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you which news outlets are in the middle, super

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 1>far left or super far right or in the middle.

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>So the ones in the middle are usually the ones

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you can trust the most.

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean, I don't know if that is not.

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Trust the most, but yeah, yeah yeah.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 3>So it's called ground dot news slash blind Spot, and

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 3>they tell you the news stories that had little to

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 3>no reporting on the left and the news stories that

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 3>had little to no reporting on the right. And it's

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>just really interesting to compare and really burst your own

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 3>bubble and you know, get out of your own echo

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 3>echo chamber and see what stories you might have been missing.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>We want to play a couple of games. Can we

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>can we hop into that right quick. Okay, let's do

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it news related right, So like a little rapid fire segment.

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So this is like tweet this like so if you.

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Use X at all, I stopped using XY.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>We need too. But it's just sometimes I go in

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>there like certain things are going on. But this game

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>is like if you see this headline, what would be

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>your if you see this tweet? What would your response

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>be to it? As a journalist? That's there like an instructions. Okay,

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>so here's this tweet. All mainstream media is bought and biased.

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>With somebody worre to tweet that, what would your response

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<v Speaker 1>be as a journalist.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 3>All mainstream media is bought and biased? You know what

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 3>my response would be. My response would be, come along

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 3>with me as I report this story. I would I

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 3>would want to show you the ins and outs of

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing. I would take you along for the process.

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think that's something that the media does enough.

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I agree number two. Number two, Black journalists can't be

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<v Speaker 2>objective when reporting on black issues.

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Object response, that's so rude. I am a professional. Okay. Also, yeah,

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 3>no that's not true. I mean I've definitely done a

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of stories that like if you have a if

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 3>you have a one dimensional view of what a black

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 3>person is or how they view the world, that you

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 3>would be surprised by the stories that I told. But

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 3>my I think my goal as a journalist was to always,

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, do the unexpected and go to unexpected places, like.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I go was saying.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:41.280
<v Speaker 3>I did a story about black conservatives and Black Republicans

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 3>and where those values come from and how they're evolving,

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 3>and it elicited a really interesting response.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 2>But get out of here with that. Of course I

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>can be objective. Watch me.

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>TikTokers are the new investigative journalist. Somebody just tweeted that

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and you saw it on your timeline.

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:07.839
<v Speaker 3>Girl pleasement. We can investigate. We can investigate black girl

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 3>shower talk. We can investigate the man who's saying you'll.

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Be married you in those uburbs.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 3>We can investigate that kind of stuff. But see, here's

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 3>the thing here, here's the thing about investigative reporting. Like,

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 3>investigative reporting is so intense. There are so many lawyers involved,

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 3>there are so many producers involved. It has to go

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 3>through so many checks and balances. Trust me, you don't

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:30.839
<v Speaker 3>want to you don't want to get into that game

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 3>if you ain't ready like to see what's gonna happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost to say about that right next one. If

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the story doesn't go viral, it doesn't.

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Matter, absolutely not, absolutely not. If viral is our new

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 3>metric for worthiness, We're We're screwed, We're screwed. There are

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.760
<v Speaker 3>so many important stories that fly under the radar, and honestly,

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in our hyper connected world, we are

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 3>not meant to necessarily know about all the things that

0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 3>are going on and be so wrapped up in everything

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 3>that's going on. I think that's like the price that

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 3>we pay for living in this like hyper connected world.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 3>But there are lots of stories that aren't the ones

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 3>that get the most attention, that still need attention. So

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say absolutely not. Was it supposed to be

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 3>rapid fire? Was I supposed to say like one or

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 3>two words? Because I'm not good at that.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>No? No, that's good, Okay, it's perfect, all right, So

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>this is the next game, So would you report on it?

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Is this game? Right? So you know I'm on it,

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I'll pass or only if it's breaking. Essentially, you don't

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>have to use those words. A secret group of moms

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and Beverly Hills is microdosing mushrooms to survive PTA meetings.

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm on it.

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 3>I am on it like lickety split. I'll be there

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>next time.

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Nixtlan a TikTok trend where gen z ors quit capitalism

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 2>by faking their own deaths and moving to the forest

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 2>to start commutes.

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm on it. Catch me on the next plane.

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll be on that forest island.

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>This is for Hollywood. Leaked group chat reveals elite NYC

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>influencer influencers are hiring body doubles to attend events for them.

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Again, I'm on it.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 3>These are these are all fire, These are all banger

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 3>stories like this is.

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to watch these stories.

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You know me too.

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>This all sounds good. Okay. A pastor starts say OnlyFans

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to fundraise for his new church and it's working.

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And the deacon slinging d you know what, I'll pass.

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I got time.

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 3>No, I ain't got time for that trifle mess.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>No, hold on, this is this is the one. A

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>whistleblow claims AI generated news anchors are being used to

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 1>spread political propaganda in Swing states.

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Oof, definitely on it, Like that needs to be reported.

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's sorry happening, black Mirra for sure?

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Are you there?

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Are you? So? My name is Simone.

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.720
<v Speaker 3>It has been a pleasure speaking with you today.

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 2>All right. So we have a segment on our show

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 2>called Dumb Bitch Story and you share a time where

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you got played by the opposite six in life? Anytime

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 2>in life where they they played you.

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a story a time where somebody played me,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 3>like when I got cheated on her something? Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah,

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>there was a time. There was a time in college

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I was dating this boy, and yeah, I started to

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 3>have my my doubts and my questions, and so I

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 3>hopped on the I hopped on the old Facebook. I

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 3>did my little slew thing, you know, I did my

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 3>investigative journalism, and come to find out he had a

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:27.799
<v Speaker 3>whole girlfriend someplace else in a different city. And that

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 3>was that. That was that was Yeah, he had a

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 3>whole life.

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 2>What did you say to him? How'd you end it?

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it just.

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 3>I think I called and it gave like a really

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 3>ratchet phone call. Honestly, you know, you know when you

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 3>have to do that sometimes mm hmmm. I actually, now

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 3>that I think about it, My favorite favorite version of

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 3>this actually a better version of this question. Another story

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 3>is coming to mind. My best friend she was dating

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 3>this guy at our school and he had made her

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 3>watch his dog. She was watching his dog for like

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 3>a week and I and then it kept getting extended,

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 3>like the time kept going up and up, and she's

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 3>just watching this dog, and I'm like, girl, what is

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 3>going on? Like why are you just watching his dog?

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Where is he Why isn't he here? Come to find

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 3>out he had a girl in town he was cheating

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 3>on her, and I'm pretty sure he came over to

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 3>their house and I happened to be there, and I

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:28.800
<v Speaker 3>like popped off on him and was going off about

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the dog, like why you leave this dog at my

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 3>friend's house? Come and get this dog? Blah blah blah.

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, another another occasion where you just had to

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 3>let him know, you know, like you.

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Just kind was the other girl allergic to the dog?

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Why he got the dog over there or.

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Something like because he got he got multiple dogs to

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 3>a woman, multiple dogs.

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So the first, like the first story you told, like

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 1>that really wasn't a dumbbitch story because if you would

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have stayed right and continued to date this guy after

0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.839
<v Speaker 1>you found out that he had another situation going on,

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.879
<v Speaker 1>then you would be a dumb bitch. Okay, okay, see

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>how bad bitch you got up out of there.

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:08.919
<v Speaker 2>Okay I misunderstood. Yeah, so you never stayed after being

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 2>cheated all?

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>No, never, what's your sign, Aquarius?

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was about to say, Virgo. I'm gonna

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 1>say that's about right, Virgos. Ain't never got cheated on, Chad.

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 1>They'll warp it some type of way, like to where

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they're always on top.

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:29.239
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna leave too, though, They're not gonna stick around

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 2>too long, don't you know about that? Really?

0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Feel I mean the women. Yeah, my oldest sister isn't Aquarius.

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 1>One of the nicest people on the planet, but when

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it comes to love, not the smartest, Sorry, Linda, I

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 1>love you, not the smartest. But other than that, she's

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>very brilliant. Okay, But they can get digitized a little bit.

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, tell everybody where they can find you, where they

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 2>can subscribe to your podcast, all your Things, plug it all.

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, you can find me on social media at

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 3>simone Voice. I'm not on everything, and you can also

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 3>listen to the bright Side every Monday We are going

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:07.160
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0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:10.360
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<v Speaker 1>Owing so much for joining us, so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, ladies.

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.839
<v Speaker 3>Y'all are the best. It's such an honor to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all, have you enjoyed this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Tune in every Thursday and iHeartRadio app wherever the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcast that. This is age a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>two point on Instagram's kick It Tam.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all is official Tam Bam on Instagram. I love y'all

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Remember speak now what you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Never hold your news, Never hold your news.