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Speaker 2: Is it's time to bang?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Can you hear that? Can you feel it?

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Speaker 1: Luke's blending his own mixed drink here, and this is

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Speaker 1: the best damn combat sports show they ever put together.

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat Welcome in Monday, December thirty, two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty four. And you've arrived at a great time because

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Speaker 1: today myself, Brian Campbell, that man next to me, Lou Thomas,

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Speaker 1: will be presenting our year end Awards for Combat Sports

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Speaker 1: for two thousand and twenty four. LT. I'm not in

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Speaker 1: my normal location here, but I made it the road

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Speaker 1: kit works. I think you can hear me McDonald's WiFi.

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Speaker 1: All things considered, how you doing here one day out

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Speaker 1: from the end of twenty four?

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Speaker 4: This is the best you've looked on this show maybe ever.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what your setup is. Don't ever change

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Speaker 4: it this Okay, now we're starting to get too disgusting. Territory. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: except for the lockers in the back where you're obviously

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And isn't it crazy that the

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Speaker 1: I used to take the expensive roadkit and always have

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've got stuff that I've paid a lot of

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Speaker 4: money for. I got stuff that I've paid very little

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Speaker 1: There it is, whoop, there it is. Hey, we're fired up,

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Speaker 1: we're excited. The new year is almost here. Obviously, today's

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Speaker 1: that was. We have fifteen categories, with myself, LT and

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Speaker 1: of course Long Island Luke giving our takes. We're also

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Speaker 1: you have your voice heard, Luke all in all, would

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Speaker 1: you call twenty twenty four a great year for combat sports,

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Speaker 4: You at I will tell you this. I went when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like those bathrooms that are trendy in hip

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Speaker 4: Never I've never done that. But like if you think

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well you're you know, you're under rus really

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Speaker 1: let's bring it now. Aussie Rules, Long Island Luke, son

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Speaker 1: Minute Bong extraordinary expert legal advice. If you're willing gambling advice.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us today?

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Speaker 5: I got a lot of titles, That's what I got.

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Speaker 3: You know, look a little upgrade to the office.

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Speaker 1: Would you say that you have established titles or we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna go back?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a lord, but you know I'm

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Speaker 1: You know, if anyone interested, I could still sell just

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Speaker 1: sell you some samurai knives right there, Luke, what a

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Speaker 4: Those knives are good.

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Speaker 1: Those knives aren't good. Those Kami kodos I still rock those.

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Speaker 1: Thank you long On Luke for checking in. You can

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Speaker 1: Follow us, of course on our solo channels and all

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Speaker 1: of that, Luke, before we get into the meat of

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Speaker 1: this fifteen award structure. No shit today, okay, no ish?

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Speaker 1: Next week? All right, for the new year, anything else

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about, Luke, We're in that beach.

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Speaker 4: Just the order of business. Friday, we're going to do

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Speaker 4: our prediction show, yes, right for the news and then

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Speaker 4: next Monday. I don't know if you've read the emails

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Speaker 4: Are we back in studio next Monday.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that six is our first day back, Luke.

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Speaker 4: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 1: That's why we're back.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't apply to us, okay, right, So then there

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Speaker 1: Is it Monday jan six?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be wearing a dead animal on

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Speaker 4: But I but long, islan, Luke. We have do have

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Speaker 4: January twentieth, which of course will be inauguration Day, is

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Speaker 1: All right, Look, I we're in between Christmas and New

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Speaker 4: Here, and she has maintained steadfastly that Santa really dropped

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Speaker 1: You know. Oftentimes I think she shows her Columbian side, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Category number one, knock out of the year. We are

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Speaker 2: LT.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the hot seat first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: What's your pick for Boxing's KO of the Year?

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Speaker 4: Man. There's a bunch of good ones we could have

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit the honorable mentions after we reveal God.

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Speaker 4: I got okay, very good. So for me, these are

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Speaker 4: Angelo Leo KO and Luis Alberto Lopez, which was brutal,

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Speaker 4: this was beautifully set up, executed perfectly. Misdirection caught him, landed, thoroughly,

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Speaker 4: this one as number one. I debated it for a

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Speaker 1: I mean, KO is a great subjective category because it

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's really sometimes about the

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Speaker 1: nailed that knockout call. He went from zero to sixty

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Speaker 1: bring up a big Frank, poor big Frank Francis Enganu

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Speaker 1: how it connected, but it was the overall just bomb

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Speaker 1: nature brutality of that. It's hard for me not to

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Speaker 1: give aj and Gon, who was my KO of the year.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a great call. It was brutal as shit.

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Speaker 4: You easily could have gone that one. He and his

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Speaker 4: body kind of just got warped and twisted, and the

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Speaker 4: way that it fell, we've never seen him hurt that way. Easy. Again,

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Speaker 4: there was a few of these were how you want

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Speaker 4: it was such a flat line, single shot. You know,

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Speaker 4: just to get him, Yeah, you could have gone either way,

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Speaker 4: you really look who did you go with?

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Speaker 5: I went with Lucas Body over Esh and Silk. I

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Speaker 5: was on the Jake Paul Mike Perry undercard. Lucas Body

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Speaker 5: Hallacious left hook that was sil face plant ko and

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Speaker 4: He landed two left hooks and a right hand. He

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have that one in my three,

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Speaker 5: This one, Wow, fucking knocked him out. I was like,

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Speaker 4: No, in fact, it's my honorable mention. So I gave

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Speaker 4: It was so surprising, it was so thorough essentially in

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Speaker 4: I think, and then he had hurt Joshua second time

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a gimmick fight, for sure, but

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Speaker 1: I think because in Ghanu nearly beat Tys in Fury

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Speaker 1: the feelings we had coming into that fight, is what

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: His knockout of Deontay Wilder after he spun Wilder around,

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Speaker 1: who did the fans pick here? On Boxing's KO of

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Speaker 5: So it was overwhelming for your choice B see Anthony

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there, it is.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to MMA's KO of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I can't see this being a long discussion. All three

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Speaker 1: UFC three hundred, Max Holloway with one second left in

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget coming in. We were almost worried about

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Speaker 1: be a war. It was Luke, why is this a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't even know. I mean as much

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Speaker 4: then Max is big and it is it just doesn't

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Speaker 4: of all, the lead up to that fight. The entire

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Speaker 4: like Justin Gatzee is going to beat up a natural

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Speaker 1: Kicked He had kicked DP before that too.

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Speaker 4: Right, he had just finished Dustin Poorier. We were all

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Speaker 4: be honest with you. And then Max does what Max does,

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Speaker 4: million copycats, But there's only one Max Holloway duking it

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Speaker 4: of an important about both for their career as well

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Speaker 4: whole nine yards. It was. It was a middle finger

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Speaker 4: to every one of us who was thinking, oh, Justin's

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It was a reminder of Max Holloway's

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Speaker 4: just not many guys who are willing to do that,

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Speaker 4: there too? I mean, this is just as good as

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Speaker 4: Ko's get in mma, that's basically.

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Speaker 1: level of drama, not known as a KO puncher, despite

438
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Speaker 1: two stoppages of a prime Jose Aldo. Yet look at

439
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Speaker 1: what Max did against Gae Chee, and look what he

440
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: did against Korean Zombie Luke that was also a highlight

441
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Speaker 1: reel type of one punch finish, even though Zombie was

442
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Speaker 1: kind of asking for it. Right, Zombie was like, knock

443
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Speaker 1: me out, sir, send me to the grave for the

444
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Speaker 1: finish of my career.

445
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Speaker 4: It's one thing to get a guy at the literal

446
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 4: end of his career, and it's another one again to

447
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 4: take him to a place he'd never been quite like that.

448
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 4: I mean we'd seen obviously, we've seen Gey Chee stops,

449
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Speaker 4: but not like that, not what Max did to him.

450
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Speaker 1: Long, I don't, look, you have anything to add on

451
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Speaker 1: this beautiful KO.

452
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Speaker 5: Just for the hell of it. I did put a

453
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Speaker 5: poll in the chat eighty six percent, you.

454
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Speaker 4: Know, and I mean you know, there were some other

455
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Speaker 4: good KOs. That one was historically special.

456
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: Quickly, that flying knee that Venicius Olivera dropped on Bernardo.

457
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Speaker 1: How do you say that last name?

458
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Speaker 4: Luke? So yeah, I think it's so food.

459
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Speaker 1: That would win any other year, would it not? That

460
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Speaker 1: was beauty.

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Speaker 4: So that's on my list as well. The flying a

462
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Speaker 4: double switch knee, I mean, landing as perfectly as can get,

463
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: slumping your opponent like a sack of potatoes to the canvas.

464
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Speaker 4: It just doesn't come much better than that. Also, b see,

465
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if you guys have it

466
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Speaker 4: on your list, but Charol Bullet doing the double spinning backfist.

467
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Speaker 4: Heck yeah, the armand Petrosian. You know I've been I've

468
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 4: been a bit of a skeptic on Charlotte. He's starting

469
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Speaker 4: to he's starting to, you know, grow on me a

470
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Speaker 4: little bit. But that Keo was sick, super sick. Got

471
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Speaker 4: to give him credit for.

472
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Speaker 1: And and the rumor is he only has one eyeball.

473
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Speaker 4: Luke, I don't know if that's a rumor, motherfucker. I

474
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Speaker 4: can just see he's only got one goddamn l ball.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, you knew a kid growing up with one

476
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Speaker 1: ball that just the same, but in a you know,

477
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Speaker 1: in a different realm.

478
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Speaker 4: One ball. But it was it was it was in

479
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Speaker 4: his eye.

480
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Speaker 1: Do you see that guy's ball. Let's move on over

481
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Speaker 1: to mn Oh. Sorry, also, any other KOs we missed?

482
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Speaker 4: And a man, I mean there was I was gonna say,

483
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Speaker 4: along on, Luke, did we skip one? So we got

484
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Speaker 4: the Soapi and olivera We've.

485
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Speaker 1: Got Oh, Matt Vola got sent to hell.

486
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Speaker 4: We love Matt, but that was a bad one.

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: That was Who sent that? Who did that to him?

488
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Speaker 3: Was that a king farice Zeum? It was a knee

489
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Speaker 3: that the knee.

490
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Speaker 1: Right are we putting it could be either of those

491
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Speaker 1: iliad ones without a so I.

492
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Speaker 4: Think that those are very very good KOs.

493
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Speaker 1: The Max one in particular, for like one perfect shot.

494
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 4: Yes, the Max one is better than the Alex one

495
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Speaker 4: was I won't say anticlimactic, but it happened so fast

496
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Speaker 4: that it's almost like whatever, Whereas that one he rocked

497
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Speaker 4: Max and then there was a subsequent kind of follow

498
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Speaker 4: up that really began to do it. I think that

499
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 4: those are very good KOs, but they're more impressive for

500
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Speaker 4: what they mean rather than like visually how great were

501
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Speaker 4: they there were? I mean, it's it's you know, we're

502
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Speaker 4: it just doesn't deserve the best one of the year

503
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Speaker 4: kind of thing.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Weird how Max Holloway and

505
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua either delivered one of the best KOs and

506
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Speaker 1: also we're on the business end of them in the

507
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Speaker 1: same year. That's snarly submission of the year time. In

508
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: the sport of MMA, Luke Thomas, you could go at

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: different different directions here, the sub pick is very subjective

510
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: like KO, where sometimes it's the difficulty of the submission,

511
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: the stage that the fight is on, where a fighter

512
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Speaker 1: is in that fight, did they rally and pull that

513
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: submission out of thin air? Was it? I mean, you know,

514
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Speaker 1: you tell me Luke, what goes into you picking some

515
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Speaker 1: of the year.

516
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Speaker 4: So for me, it would have to definitely be stakes

517
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: as a huge one like anybody can, like you know

518
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: it is Sep Smith of fifty to fifty BJJ told

519
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 4: me this a long time ago, which is like, it's

520
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: very very hard for one black belt, a really good one,

521
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: to submit the other one from guard. Excuse me, It's

522
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 4: going to be hard to do a lot of things

523
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Speaker 4: to a very talented and resisting opponent, and so you're

524
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: just gonna get a lot less highlights. Sometimes you're gonna

525
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: get a lot less variety sometimes because it's just much

526
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 4: more difficult to come by it, you know. So you know,

527
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: it's easy to gogle a plot of somebody who's not

528
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: very good. It's very very difficult to do that. So

529
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Speaker 4: I tend to value the acrobatics of a submission less,

530
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Speaker 4: although you do have to take into account as well.

531
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, if there's a flying arm bar

532
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: out there or some kind of unique way which a

533
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 4: submission was secure, that is valuable. But to me, stakes

534
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: is much more important significantly. So this year you did

535
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Speaker 4: not have any great ones. You got a bunch of

536
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: ones that I thought were good or meaningful, but you

537
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: did not get one that was high on both of them.

538
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Speaker 4: So that's the reason why this one is a little

539
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 4: bit wishy washy for me, but in order to get

540
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Speaker 4: for my list, and I almost went the other way,

541
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Speaker 4: but for my list because of the stakes involved. Because

542
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: essentially we had never seen anyone do this to him,

543
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: you know, certainly within the UFC, but I think ever

544
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: for DDP to submit Izzy, the way that he did

545
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 4: was pretty remarkable. And again it wasn't the cleanest submission,

546
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: you know, hadra Gracie backtake and all this kind of stuff,

547
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: But the way in which he just snatched it and

548
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: physically forced it and to do it and like you know,

549
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: which it wasn't like long set up. He just kind

550
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: of chased it down and then just jumped on it

551
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 4: like a like a like an attack dog, you know.

552
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Speaker 4: To do that in a UFC title fight and then

553
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Speaker 4: get the belt essentially or maintain the belt, I should say,

554
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: as a consequence, that's a big deal. So for me,

555
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: you got to give it to DVP.

556
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Speaker 1: And it was a very competitive fight up to that point.

557
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: I mean everything played into that, but Luke, I didn't

558
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: have that one in my top three, but I certainly

559
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Speaker 1: hold it as being a finalist. Anyone could choose that,

560
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: but you gotta go. In my opinion, Hamza Chamaya and

561
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: Robert Whitaker. It wasn't just the brutality of the face

562
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Speaker 1: crank slash, broke his jaw slash. I know there was

563
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: a pre existing injury, but it's still dramatic brutal round one.

564
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: He did that to Robert Whittaker. I mean, are you

565
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: kidding me? Like it was a perfect Chamaiah fight where

566
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this is finally the fight. I'm going

567
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: to see him have to go back and forth. I

568
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: know he did that against Gilbert, but it's like you

569
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: sort of have those expectations and then he just pulls

570
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: the rug out from under you, destroys you in less

571
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Speaker 1: than a round and we still don't know where the

572
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: man's ceiling is. I take all of that into account,

573
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Speaker 1: but also the damn brutality of just taking an elite

574
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Speaker 1: fighter and just crushing him that quickly into saying yeah,

575
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm out, dude. That's my pick for some

576
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Speaker 1: of the year. I mean that's almost a koh right.

577
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Speaker 1: I mean it's almost just like he put him right

578
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Speaker 1: out of commission.

579
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Speaker 3: Like.

580
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Speaker 4: So that was my number two, and I really debated

581
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Speaker 4: with it. I think the like, for some reason, the

582
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: fact that it came almost effortlessly kind of downgrades it.

583
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: But that's not again. I struggled with this one. I

584
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: think the difference for me was they both kind of

585
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: just snatched it in the end, but one had much

586
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 4: higher stakes. But the way in which like Tremaiah just

587
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: ran over Robert Whittaker to then break his face, if

588
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 4: you've got that number one, I you know, it's hard

589
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: to argue against that. It's just the other one came

590
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: at a title fight.

591
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Long Island, Lukes, I don't have the tie here. Which

592
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: way you going?

593
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 5: I'm going homs out over Whittaker. It was just brutal, dude.

594
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: The tap was so quick. I Mean everyone wants to

595
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: talk about how Whittaker was injured before that, but it

596
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: was an injury he had when he was like a teenager.

597
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been fighting his whole career with that injury.

598
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: I mean, shit was vicious. I debated, should I pick

599
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: like a really technical submission here or this?

600
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you go Patty Pimblet over King Green because that.

601
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: Was my next one BC was technically savvy submission, but

602
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: this had the highest stakes and the most brutal.

603
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

604
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: I got no issue with anyone picking R two or

605
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Patty because of that, said, Luke, will you give any

606
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: love to my guy who has a history, a good

607
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: history with the word snatch, Brian Ortega, the Yai Rodriguez

608
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: rear naked choke. It was redemptive for him in his

609
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: career arc. Maybe I just love the guy. Do you

610
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: have any love for that?

611
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: Was it a ridicker joker? Was it an arm triangle?

612
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: I cannot remember.

613
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: I thought it was real naked, but I could I

614
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: could be wrong here, Luke.

615
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: Whatever, I've seen him on various people's lists. Here, let

616
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: me see double back here in double check.

617
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: It was an arm triangle.

618
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: I love the way it made me feel just the same.

619
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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it was an arm triangle. I mean, I

620
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: definitely give it a lot of credit for how valuable

621
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: the win is, but I just can't there was nothing

622
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: extra special about it. Like the Patty win was a

623
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: big win for his career because of what it meant

624
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 4: uh and then.

625
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam Fourtega, it brought him back, Luke, he was

626
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: back at that moment.

627
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it had it was it was valuable. It was definitely,

628
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: it was definitely valuable. But like that was a bit

629
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: that was a breakout moment for Patty and then for Hamzat,

630
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: I thought, I mean he will get a title shot

631
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: off of that. And then for for the DVP, it

632
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: was you know, securing or maintaining anyway a a UFC title,

633
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: Like the stakes are just bigger in each of those.

634
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: But I can certainly recognize that, you know, Brian's in

635
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: the conversation, throw some.

636
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Love here, Luke to GM three Gerald Mehershark, who was

637
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: on this list in terms of like contenders for this

638
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: award a few times. I'm going to pick his Edmund

639
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Shabazi and one as my third best of the year

640
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: where he got brutalized at times in that fight, but

641
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Mehershark can take a licking and keep on ticking. And

642
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: then when he got that rear naked, it was like, damn,

643
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: he pulled victory out of the out of the defeat hole, Luke,

644
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: and he did it elbow deep. You got love for

645
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: that guy too, right, Meershark, Yeah, baby.

646
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's I mean, he's been. He has been one

647
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: of the kind of interesting if you look at his career,

648
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: like a really submission oriented winner at middleweight in ways

649
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: that is somewhat unusual for that division. And so he

650
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: has kind of set up himself as like a as

651
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: like that as an identity, and with good reason. He's very,

652
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: very good at that kind of stuff. So I absolutely

653
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: think you could you know, again, you could put it.

654
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: I don't think it would win out right, but you

655
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: coul put him in the conversation.

656
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: All right, a Long Island Luke, what do the people

657
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: say on sub.

658
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Of the year?

659
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: So sixty four percent taking Hams out over Whitaker. Next

660
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: was DDP over is he twenty eight percent?

661
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

662
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Goods all set, let's go to upset of the year.

663
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: We will begin in the sport of boxing and lt

664
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: we all you, myself and Long Island Luke had the

665
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: same pick here. And when you consider the odds which

666
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: were as high as forty to one on some books

667
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: from Bruno Serachi or Sirace being the up being the

668
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: underdog here the lamb brought to the slaughter, what do

669
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: you have four or five career KOs, and yet he

670
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: sent Jimi Mungia looking for a get well fight to

671
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: the canvas with one punch and he was done. This

672
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: was as shocking a KO or upsets as I remember

673
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: in recent time. It just kind of was like, what

674
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: what just happened? That's all of our pick for KO

675
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: of the year, and I think it's a slam dunk,

676
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: no brainer.

677
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't know the I don't know what

678
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: else would be a close. I mean, I got I've

679
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: got a couple that are some decent choices otherwise, but

680
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: they don't come close to this one. I mean again,

681
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: to your point, Mungia was an astronomical favorite. This was

682
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: boxing in the way that we understand it typically to

683
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: be where guys who are prized by the promotion for

684
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: various reasons, at various points in their career get certain

685
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: fights that are you know, get well, tune up, blah

686
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: blah blah, you name it mandatories in certain cases, and

687
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: this was supposed to be one of those. This was

688
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: supposed to be an ordinary night for Jimi Mungia to

689
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: get another win, to look pretty good, and he ended

690
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: up getting an absolutely disastrous defeat, no question about it.

691
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: He let his guard down. Brunos Sarrassi. I think it's

692
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: how they pronounce it. I'm not sorace and I'm really

693
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: sure anymore. Hit him with a ridiculous cross, sat him down,

694
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: and that was all she wrote, fair and square, no

695
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: question about it, with just absolutely enormous consequences of the day.

696
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Dude, Mongia was like minus twenty five hundred to win

697
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: that fight, right, just something I've.

698
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: Seen something insane.

699
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when the guy delivering the KO of the

700
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Year as a non puncher, that makes it even more

701
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: reminds me of a KO of the Year candidate a

702
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: few years ago. Off course, I can't remember it in

703
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: the moment. Wow, that's great. The guy with Tito Bracero

704
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: not a puncher at all. Who did he knock out

705
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: that white dude? And it was a big upset the

706
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: guy from Boston that was promoted by Murphy's Boxing and

707
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: the debt drop kick Murphy's I'm talking to myself at

708
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: this point anyway, Luke, Uh, we all nailed that as

709
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: the pick for Boxing's Upset of the Year, but you

710
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: and I both had the same second choice, and that's

711
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Liam Paro going to Puerto Rico and taking the title

712
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: from the Boogeyman himself, Subrio Matias. Dude, that was a

713
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: big time, big ball sack performance.

714
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: Dude, Subrio Matias, Puerto Rican. As you mentioned, so Parro

715
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: is in his backyard, so you know it's going to

716
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: be a tough one. And then on top of it,

717
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: this was the Matias who had retired five guys in

718
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: a row who quit on the stool. Five of them

719
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: in a row. Were just like, yeah, I'm done with

720
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: this fucking guy. Please get him off of me and

721
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: quit on the stool. That happened five fucking times. And

722
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: then Paro said, I'll fight that guy in his hometown

723
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: and beat him. Know, sorry, that is impressive. And of

724
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: course there were some arguments to make after the fact,

725
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: BC people being like, well, maybe Mattias was a little

726
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: bit overrated, because guys quitting on the stool obviously is

727
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: impressive for Mattias, but it's a little bit of fools gold.

728
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: There are some holes in his game and as you know,

729
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: he is wide open to be hit early. He just

730
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: sent Tens to come on a little bit later. But

731
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: Paro can fucking box man. You got to give the

732
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: guy credit. He can absolutely box. He did his job.

733
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: He stuck to it and he went into the mouth

734
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: of the lions den and got a dub Like right, now,

735
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: that's tough to do.

736
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: He wouldn't closed the year as champion because Richardson Hitchins

737
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: won that split decision over him in Puerto Rico just

738
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: recently to take that. But what a breakthrough performance for

739
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Paro for a night, turning the division upside down, eliminating

740
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that we thought, okay, not the

741
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: most skilled as you laid out there, but when he

742
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: starts getting up on you, when Matias starts, you know,

743
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: he opens the fight almost with his hands down, almost

744
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: telling you, you know, empty out what you have. And

745
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: then the second he feels like his opponents were slipping,

746
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: he would put it in that other gear and just

747
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: wear on them jaredt Herd style, right. So it was

748
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: a big time upset to see that go down. Also,

749
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: don't forget I was at this fight and called it.

750
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: But let's not forget tim Zu who came in as

751
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: a monster betting favorite even though Bakra Mertzzaliev was the

752
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: champion and undefeated. Look you recall Mertzzaliev just going through

753
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: him like nothing. It was shocking. That comes across as

754
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: a major upset because that derailed PBC's plans, Zoo's plans.

755
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought Tim Zuo would exit

756
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: this calendar year oher in two losing two Monster title

757
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: fights that way.

758
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the first one you could kind of

759
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: forgive him because he had the worst cut ever, not

760
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 4: on his forehead here on the top of his head,

761
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: and it just couldn't seal and it just bled and

762
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: bled and bled. But okay, he was also fighting for

763
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: a title. He was against a Sebastian Fundorra whatever, and

764
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: then he goes in there against a guy who was

765
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: He was also supposed to get a tune up against PBC.

766
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: That was their one and only non PAP they did

767
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 4: that year, and the guy they'd been propping up got

768
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: fucking waxed and like not even close p see I

769
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: say waxed, I mean waxed, rinsed, you name it, got crushed.

770
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: That was a bad one.

771
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: That was definitely we should we put Daniel Dubal for

772
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua discussion.

773
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: He's on my list, and I don't know if it's

774
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: the biggest one. You know, some of this is if

775
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: you're talking to boxing insiders, it's a matter of like, well,

776
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: this one was more important than that one was less important.

777
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 4: But just from the public's perception, Duboi was the guy

778
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: who maybe kind of complained about the low blow not

779
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: counting against Usik and wasn't much more than that, and

780
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: people thought he wasn't gonna beat Hergovich, and he did,

781
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: and he just kind of kept climbing, kept climbing, kept climbing,

782
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: and then he got the fight with Joshua. I think

783
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: most observers, I certainly did. We all kind of recognized that, like, hey,

784
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: Duba can make it tough, but Joshua should win this.

785
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: Joshua himself had had a up to that point, a

786
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: good rebound after losing to Usick twice, but that appeared

787
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: to be fool's goal, Dubois running him the fuck over,

788
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: which is what he basically basically did. DC. I just

789
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: feel like the optics of that, yeah, and the significance

790
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 4: of that is too big to ignore.

791
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Martin Boccoli running through

792
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: big Baby Anderson. Even though that fight was like a cool,

793
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of almost fifty to fifty ish fight with a

794
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of questions about Jared Anderson. Is he on this

795
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: level the brutality and the fun. I mean that was

796
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: a war back and forth. Anderson went out punching right

797
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: like he was there to fight, even though he got

798
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: bewildered and overwhelmed. But I think you got to mention

799
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that long island. Luke, what did the fans believe should

800
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: have been boxing's upset of the year.

801
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: I didn't put one in the poll because I just

802
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: assumed everyone would take monkey on this one.

803
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: I got the one ready to go all right, all right?

804
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: One is just so yeah, yeah, it had to be.

805
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: It was perfect.

806
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: Back to Luke, Thomas mma upset of the year? Which

807
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: direction are you going?

808
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Man?

809
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 4: This one was a little tougher. And now I'm looking

810
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: at the way in which I did it, and maybe

811
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: I would change some of this in terms of I

812
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: think betting this might have been one of the biggest ones.

813
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it's quite the biggest, but I think

814
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: up there as one of the biggest ones. But again,

815
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: I'm going for surprise factor. Didn't see it coming. What

816
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: are we talking about? And it's got to be Gabriella

817
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: Fernandez over and again. I don't know how to fuck

818
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: pronounce it her name, but Wang Tong Wang.

819
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: Song, Yeah, just say tong and be done with it.

820
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wang Tom, I'm gonna I hope I'm saying it

821
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: even somewhat right. Wang Tong BC. Again, it wasn't like

822
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: she was a proven, proven commodity, but she had that

823
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: amazing UFC debut, She had all the hype and swag.

824
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: She on the.

825
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: Feet was doing really really well, we thought for the

826
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: most part, but Fernandez just wouldn't go away, wouldn't go away,

827
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't go away, and then found her moment and absolutely

828
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: bludgeoned her. I mean it was a little bit more

829
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: too than one strike. It was actually a series of strikes,

830
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: a head kick and some other stuff. But the way

831
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: in which she just kind of wou would refuse to relent,

832
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: refuse to buy into the hype, did her thing. And

833
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 4: then the only reason I don't even know her name

834
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: and she exists in the roster is because of something

835
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: like this. And I just feel like, again, there are

836
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: upsets with bigger stakes, to be very clear, but this

837
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 4: one came so far out of left field and was

838
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: so decisive ultimately in the end where it wasn't a

839
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: split decision or something. She polished her off. I think

840
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: Gabriella Fernandez did wonders for herself. That's got to be her.

841
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 4: For me.

842
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Look, this was my number two, it was quite nearly

843
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: my number one. For everybody else it was their number one.

844
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: It seems if I'm taking the pulse of social media,

845
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: but it has all the elements, right. I mean, look, dude,

846
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: when Wang Tong when she is stepping up her own

847
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: hype game by complaining to the promotion that she's not

848
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: higher up on the card, by doing the joker thing,

849
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: by you know, I mean, look, she looked like a killer.

850
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: She had that lottery ticket in the back of her

851
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: pocket of having once beaten Valentina in a kickboxing match,

852
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: like it was all set up perfectly and she got

853
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: derailed and it was. It was one of one of

854
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: those jaw dropping moments for sure. But also I think

855
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: we instantly all went wait, Fernandez is kind of good here,

856
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: Like where has she been all of our life? Maybe

857
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: we should have been paying closer attention. But look, my

858
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: number one, I'm gonna go to one championship because I

859
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: just did not see Umar rugrug Kine in what was

860
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a fun fight, but a Pride style matchmaking fight against

861
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: heavyweight champion Anatoly Mallikin. Considering Malikin had been a killer

862
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: over three divisions, had this hype around him was Mini

863
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: fad Or was knocking dudes out. Not only did Con

864
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: win this fight by upset, he won it over five

865
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: rounds and he sort of gassed out Malakin and left

866
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: him completely ineffective because Rugrugg took every punch Malikin had.

867
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: And I know that in hindsight Malakin did look flat

868
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: from start to finish. It wasn't a good representation at

869
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: all of who he is. But in theory, his inability

870
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: to find a way to pull out a close decision,

871
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: that's the biggest upset there. Con was the better fighter

872
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: over twenty five minutes with an insane chin Luke. That's

873
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: my number one, and I think that needs strong consideration

874
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: from everyone.

875
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: It is a great one again with sometimes the stakes

876
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: are these things and not not the one, not like

877
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: the one that I picked, any enorm mistakes, but sometimes

878
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 4: I can muddy the picture. But that's an interesting one too.

879
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: I did not see him at all being able to

880
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: do that against Anatolely Mallikin. I thought he could make

881
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: it interesting at first, but then Malakin's wrestling would wear

882
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: him down over time. Remember he'd be in the Triple

883
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: Champ blah blah blah, all this stuff, and then rugg

884
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: Rugg just said no, I don't buy into this at

885
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: all and really changed what they had with Malakin as

886
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: a consequence, and that was one of their bigger mma

887
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: pieces that they were able to showcase again their Triple

888
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: Champ at that time. It's a huge loss for them

889
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: as a consequence. So when someone upsets the apple cart

890
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: in that way, it has to have, you know, year

891
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: long significance, that kind of thing.

892
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: Yes, so we have dueling choices Long Island. Look, you

893
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: want to settle this, which direction did you go?

894
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: I went Gabriella Fernandez over Wang Tong. I'm pretty sure

895
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: if I remember correctly. Wang Tong was the only bet

896
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: I got wrong on that card, so I was extra

897
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: salty on that. But yeah, as you said, I think

898
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 5: she was like a minus nine hundred favorite coming in,

899
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 5: just huge upset. I want to give an honorable mention

900
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 5: though to what you guys brought up before the chat

901
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: seems to love ballall over Leon.

902
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 4: That's all my list too, that's on my list as well.

903
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: I mean that one obviously much bigger stakes than anything

904
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: else we're bringing up, so that that could have gone

905
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: on there, it's on my list because dude, you know,

906
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: not a lot of people were giving Ballall a lot

907
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: of chances. In fact, they were mocking him for like

908
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: the Canelo hands comed Luke.

909
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: I was a jerk about it, dude, as.

910
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: Straight up he went and did like dude, good for

911
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Bala Mohammed. There's no question he earned that win. He

912
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: did it also an enemy territory at five or six

913
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: in the morning. That's a good one. That's a really

914
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: good one.

915
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: And that's my number three. And I have to say

916
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: it's not always just the betting odds. Like obviously on paper,

917
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: Ballall had a shot at this. It's your it's it's

918
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: against your own expectations to be fair. I mean, this

919
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: was a monster upset the direction I thought it was

920
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: going to go because Edwards had been on such a

921
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: great run pump for pound top five. I just didn't

922
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: think Ballall had one category or one dominant skill that

923
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: was going to get them there. But the story of

924
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Ball's career is it's not one thing, it's everything. So

925
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: shout out to him for being on there. But Luke,

926
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: you've got a number two choice that makes me angry.

927
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: Well, I've got Tetsuro Tyra and Brandon Royle Royval winning

928
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: that contest. Now, this is not a huge upset in

929
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: that particular sense, although it isn't upset. But the reason

930
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: I picked it was because one, it was a great fight.

931
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: If you go back and recall, it was very very

932
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 4: good fight, and it was I think it was split

933
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: decision like he eked it by. But the bigger issue

934
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: for me was that, you know, they were kind of

935
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: setting up Tyra to move ahead in the rankings, right,

936
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: Like they were kind of like, hey, let's you know,

937
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: maybe maybe maybe promotionally, we don't have a lot of

938
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: plans for Royval at this moment. Royval is like, well,

939
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: you better start making them better, start making them And

940
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: I kind of love how he upset what was a

941
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: pretty And not that I blamed the UFC for doing it.

942
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: I get why they would do something like that. In fact,

943
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: I think that's honestly what a promoter should be doing.

944
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: To an extent, I'm just saying, if you can force

945
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: a promotion's hand by upsetting their plans in this way.

946
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: Excuse me, that seems relevant to me.

947
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: I just don't The reason why I can't put it

948
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: in there is not just because I loved the raw

949
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: dog and he had a great appearance this week on

950
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: our show or last week. Excuse me, but I just

951
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: think that it wasn't like he was a down on

952
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: his luck veteran that got an upset win against a

953
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: big prospect to bring him back in the conversation. I

954
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: felt like he was already strongly in that conversation. So

955
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: that's what you know. But then again, then how can

956
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I say that, but then to clear that Blall was

957
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: a monster upset? I just didn't think Ballall had a chance.

958
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I certainly believe roy Val had

959
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: a very strong chance here of doing this.

960
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough. Again, this wasn't nearly the same. I

961
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: don't know what the odds were, but I do think

962
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: that there is much more significance to what Ballall did.

963
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: But you're like asking, why is it on my list?

964
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I good fight, well earned and

965
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: upset the apple cart in terms of what the promotion

966
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: had wanted out of him, and and Tyra like that.

967
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: I like that Frahim.

968
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you put Paul Hughes over AJ McKee.

969
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 4: On this list? So that's another one you could have put.

970
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: I actually toyed with that one. To me, that's it

971
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: could honestly, by the odds, it might even be a

972
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: bigger upset. But I was a little less surprised by that.

973
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: I still thought McKee was a tough customer, but I

974
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: was like, there was a part of me that was like, man,

975
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: I think people are just fucking sleeping on this, dude, Paul, Like,

976
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: I really do believe that. And then sure enough he

977
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: went in there and if you watch that fight again, dude,

978
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: it's kind of you know, one side is a little strong,

979
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was decisive. It was decisive.

980
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: Canel, what are the people like in this one?

981
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: The people are riding with Ballall over Leon forty three percent.

982
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: I understand that. I mean, that's a huge win, dude,

983
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: that's a huge win.

984
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 5: Second place was rug rug over Anatoli Mallekin twenty six percent,

985
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 5: and then Gabriella Fernandez over Wang Tong twenty four percent,

986
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 5: Roy Vall over Tyres seven percent.

987
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 4: Hey, it's all the list.

988
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go. Hey, let's move on.

989
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Our next categ is best win of the year, which

990
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: essentially comes down to what was the most impressive singular

991
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: performance in your opinion in a big fight. Let's start

992
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: in boxing. I have a top three, but I didn't hesitate.

993
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: I knew right away what all I thought was the

994
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: biggest win in terms of stakes mixed with performance, mixed

995
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: with everything that comes with it. It's got to be

996
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Alexander Usik May eighteenth, in the first fight against Tyson Fury.

997
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: To win that by split decision, to have the smaller

998
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: man walking down and then knocking down the bigger man

999
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: and having that knockdown a round nine be that difference.

1000
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: That was that close. I'm still humbled by Usick, even

1001
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: though he's done it twice. Not a Fury, very competitive

1002
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: close fights, but dude, I'm like, you know, that's the

1003
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: rare times like when achievement makes you want to crut

1004
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: tier up, when you're just like, I can't believe he

1005
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: did it. I can't believe he's that great, because Luke,

1006
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't just oh he did it. He scored an

1007
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: upset win over Fury. The method in which she did it.

1008
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: He walked down the bigger man and threw the bigger punches,

1009
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: like come on now, you know, we never thought he'd

1010
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: go through Fury to get this done. And it was

1011
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: also a very competitive fight in which he got beat

1012
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: up in those middle rounds and really showed what he's

1013
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: all about class.

1014
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: I just don't know what would be bigger than this one.

1015
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: This was the big one. This was the most fun

1016
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: I had watching a boxing fight in real time. I

1017
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: think this year. This was magic. It was tough. He

1018
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: had to figure it out, he had to really problem solve,

1019
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: and as you indicated, like relative to the second fight,

1020
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: he got hit a lot more in the first one.

1021
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the numbers, Yeah, the numbers do

1022
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: speak to that, but you know, just visually, like some

1023
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: of the uppercuts that Fury was able to land in

1024
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: that first fight were very important. He was doing well.

1025
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean, there was just so much for Usk to overcome, again,

1026
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: never fighting at home, being the smaller guy with a

1027
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: shorter reach, and as you indicated, walking him down, landing

1028
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: the more significant punches, nearly stopping him in the ninth

1029
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: round for all the marbles in a way that we

1030
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: hadn't seen in boxing in twenty five years. And then

1031
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: to go and do that. How could anything else be

1032
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: at the top of this list? And there were some

1033
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: good performances to be sure, there was nothing like what

1034
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: This was the year of Alexander Usik in boxing bar Nune.

1035
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Long Look which way did Julean well?

1036
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 5: As Luke says, there's no other choice. I had another choice.

1037
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 5: I took Ryan Garcia's upset win over Devin Haney.

1038
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: Talking about the.

1039
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 4: Guy missing weight and popping for like seventy five thousand PDEs.

1040
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: That's the guy you picked.

1041
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: No, because you said most fun watching a fight.

1042
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 5: I assumed that was gonna be a boring Devin Haney decision.

1043
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 3: It turned into a great he dropped him three times

1044
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: or whatever it was.

1045
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 5: Also, also we had Ryan Garcia by decision plus two

1046
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: thousand cash.

1047
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: I think you, Wow, that's not a bad bet right there. Wow.

1048
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: I have this in another category later in the show.

1049
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: But I can't discount the impact. If you want to

1050
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: say best win, I mean you can. You can put

1051
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: it in. Could you put this an upset of the year? Yes,

1052
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: I think you could.

1053
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 4: Right, there's a billion percent you put this in an

1054
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: upset I think I did. I think I did have this.

1055
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: So like, Yeah, it could touch anywhere. It was a

1056
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: significant moment this year. But was it a singular dominant

1057
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: perform I mean against our expectations? Yes, also see a

1058
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: fault in a swag, a confidence that I've just never

1059
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: seen him have in a big fight before. Maybe again,

1060
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: it was that experience against Haney and the amateurs through

1061
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: six fights sparring against him, he knew that, no matter

1062
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: what happens, if he can time that left hook, he

1063
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: was going to be able to dominate that. But look,

1064
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: do people forget, by the way, in the same way

1065
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: that they forget that Adrian Broner rallied late in the

1066
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Madonna fight and made it very interesting, do they forget

1067
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: that HAINI like made this a pit It was like

1068
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: a very close fight.

1069
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 4: At the finish, Hany did a great job. Just well, okay,

1070
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: let me back that up. There were times Hani was

1071
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: doing a really bad job, but then there were other

1072
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: rounds where he was really kind of sticking with what

1073
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: he could do well and then collecting round after round

1074
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 4: after round. It just the problem was he Garcia would

1075
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: just find an opening at various points and then the

1076
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: whole thing would start to crumble again. It felt like

1077
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: he was trying to put together a sand castle as

1078
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: the tide was coming in BC. That's really kind of

1079
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: what it felt like. But you know, did he make

1080
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: an earnest effort at building that sand castle despite the

1081
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: tide coming in? I thought he did.

1082
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, a great fight. I hope we see it again.

1083
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Honorable mentions for best win in boxing. I gotta go

1084
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Dubo over Joshua. It was from the opening bell he

1085
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: jumped all over him. He would not be denied. We

1086
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: knew he could win by knockout. I don't think we

1087
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: expected a walk through. And it really took Aga getting

1088
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: up again and again to really prove that Dubois is

1089
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: that dude. For one night or maybe one year, Dubois

1090
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: has been that dude. So that's in it. And also, hey, look,

1091
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: Bam Rodriguez going in there against a legend in Wan

1092
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: Francisco Estrada and then like getting hurt but still bodying

1093
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: the legend and getting him out of there. Dude there,

1094
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 1: The class and maturity that Bam has shown in such

1095
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: short time is insane to me. I want to mention

1096
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: that one, Luke, what else you got in this schedule?

1097
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: I think both Usik Fury performances for Usik belong on

1098
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: this list. To be honest with you, I think both

1099
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: of them just give you, honestly, something close to not quite,

1100
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: because there's so many things to boxing, but those two fights,

1101
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: to me, those performances by Usik give you what is

1102
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 4: a version of the best that boxing has to offer.

1103
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: I think all the choices that you bring on there

1104
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 4: are grabc I would also throw in they're Tank Davis

1105
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 4: over Frank Morton, not nearly the same kind of stakes

1106
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 4: or difficulty. But for Tank's first fight back after being incarcerated,

1107
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: the reason I picked it was because of how like

1108
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: thorough it was, how easy he made it look against

1109
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: a guy who I think is still a very very

1110
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: good fighter, the devastating nature of the finish uh, and

1111
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: honestly some of the boxing iq that Tank Davis was

1112
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: able to show. I mean, I wish you would be

1113
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: more consistent and fight more often, But yeah, I don't

1114
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: put that nearly. I'm gonna be clear, I'm not putting

1115
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 4: that on par with either us performance for any number

1116
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: of reasons, but like, was it a very good performance?

1117
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: I think that it was.

1118
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: I got one more for you in defeat Dmitri Bevall

1119
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: against Artur better Viev.

1120
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: It's a better one.

1121
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Ye, yes, because look because I scored it for Bevall,

1122
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: and I thought Bevall fought the better fight, fought higher

1123
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: above expectations. But if you want to criticize Bevall for

1124
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: circling away at times too much and maybe that coused him,

1125
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: certainly you can say that I just thought his performance.

1126
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the better performances of all time,

1127
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: losing in a big fight. In my opinion, it's such

1128
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: a great fight. We'll see it again. February twenty second.

1129
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: On the MMA side, Luke, you and I have the

1130
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: same pick, and uh early a Tiporia could have gotten

1131
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: it for either of his wins. But what he did

1132
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: against Max Holloway without those asterisks that are kind of

1133
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: around the Volkanovsky went to some degree of whether Volkanovsky

1134
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: was a step down, what have you? I know, the

1135
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Volkanovski fight more thorough, but I think it's because he

1136
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: had to deal with Max really bringing a great game plan,

1137
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: a great will to that fight and really making Duporia

1138
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: work for it, to see the patience that he showed

1139
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: under fire, and then to find that angle and deliver

1140
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: that finishing shot. Dude, he's your guy, he's all of

1141
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: our guys. He's the best in show of this calendar

1142
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: year in my opinion, and this was the best performance

1143
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: against Max Holloway.

1144
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just tell me who had to overcome

1145
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: a more difficult challenge than that and looked better doing it.

1146
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: You could say, maybe Islam over Dustin Poier, but I

1147
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't call that the same thing. You know, there's a

1148
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: couple of other ones you could go to, but this one,

1149
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: to me, you have a guy in Max Holloway, an

1150
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: all time great, one of the very best to ever

1151
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: do it at featherweight, as we just indicated in April

1152
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: of this year, resurrected his career with an and more

1153
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 4: than resurrected just read I mean just the level of

1154
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: what he was able to inject the in terms of

1155
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: life into what he was doing with that win over

1156
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 4: just engaged you at fifty five was incredible. Goes back

1157
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: down and you know, had I think something for to Poria,

1158
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: but for Poritia go in there and become the first

1159
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: guy to ever put him, uh put him away via strikes.

1160
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 4: It was going to have to be somebody special in

1161
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: order to do that, and to Poria. You know, he

1162
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: might be congratulating himself on social media as we speak BC,

1163
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: but that fucking guy can fight and that was great evidence.

1164
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: Love it.

1165
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Obviously, I'll throw respect at what Max did to Gaichee.

1166
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: That could still be in this discussion. But my number two.

1167
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 4: Way my list is Ilia over Max, Ilia over Volk,

1168
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: and then Max over Justin. I think those are the

1169
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: best ones.

1170
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: Much respect. They could easily be there. My number two, though,

1171
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: was Hamza Chimaya for everything we said earlier, against our

1172
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: expectations of Robert Wider could do it that demonstratively it was.

1173
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: It was a shutout. It was a demolition, like holy crap.

1174
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: And also, let's put some respect on the champ Platina

1175
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: Chipchenko having to sit out a year for this trilogy,

1176
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: having to do it in the sphere, having to come

1177
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: back from a fight in which a lot of people

1178
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: thought she had deserved to win but was ruled a draw,

1179
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: and being at her advanced age. Come on, Luke, we

1180
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: gotta put Valian there.

1181
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: I have great respect for what she was able to

1182
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: do because to lose the title and then wrestle it back,

1183
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 4: especially when you're thirty seven is insane, very difficult to do.

1184
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 4: Don't misunderstand me. But there's just no way to look

1185
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 4: at that and be like Grosso's takedown defense got better,

1186
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 4: it got worse, it got worse over the course of

1187
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 4: that trilogy, it got figured out. She had no answer

1188
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: for it. That's not the same as Max. Max did

1189
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 4: not come in there like looking on like over the

1190
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: course of the last year, his game had just completely deteriorated. No, nah,

1191
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: not at all, just a It's not that I don't

1192
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: respect the win. It's a great win for Valentino and

1193
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: it really shows why she's such a special champion. But

1194
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: you have to take into consideration what she was up against.

1195
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 4: And I think that big part of that fight's story

1196
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: is how Grosso's take down defense really crumbled over the

1197
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 4: course of their trilogy.

1198
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: Yes, but I don't know, man, I'm you know, some

1199
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: people think I'm just thirsty for this type of stuff, Luke.

1200
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't think you want to have

1201
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: sex withally to Poria, and I'm not sure it goes

1202
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: the other direction.

1203
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't like the direction that you're going to be fair. Uh,

1204
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: should we also give Chris Cyborg her respect? Being off

1205
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: so long and then going in there against a true

1206
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: killer and taking taking it to her. Luke, I mean

1207
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: she didn't make it was kind of dominant, right, would

1208
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 1: you say a dominant victory.

1209
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: Dominant's a little strong word, but I mean clear who

1210
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 4: was better in the end is the way I would

1211
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: put that. And I said it before. She was a

1212
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: She wasn't a Strikeforce champ, she wasn't Invicta champ. She

1213
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 4: was a UFC champ, she was a bellator champ, and

1214
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: now she's a PFL champ. Dude, Chris, Cyborg's longevity, you

1215
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 4: just won't see something like this hardly at all in

1216
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: combat sports, and certainly not in MMA. That is an

1217
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 4: outrageous ability of hers to not just be relevant, but

1218
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: to be good across vast expanses of time changes in

1219
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 4: the sport. The sport getting better, even though women's have

1220
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: made have still got a long way to go, certainly

1221
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: has gotten better since when Cyborg could just go in

1222
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: there and just thrash overmatched people who had barely you know,

1223
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: had any skills at all. That's not what she's up against. Now.

1224
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 4: She's got real, real fighter she's up against, and she's

1225
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: still finding ways to do it. If you missed Cyborg

1226
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 4: when she was a strikeforce phenom, it was like a

1227
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 4: feeding frenzy. It was almost like Mike Tyson, like they'd

1228
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: put up against some kind of Japanese prospect or whoever,

1229
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 4: and then you'd ask the question, how long can this

1230
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 4: person last? And the answer was usually not very long.

1231
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 4: That's not what she's doing now. Now she's figuring out

1232
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: everyone and using all of her skills to get her

1233
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 4: to that next place. She has blossomed into such a

1234
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: well rounded and experienced fighter. Man, I have so much

1235
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: respect for what Chris Cyborg has been putting together. We

1236
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: go to this debate all the time. B see. You know,

1237
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 4: Amanda Nunez thrashed her Manda Noons is probably the best ever.

1238
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: But the level of longevity that Chris Cyborg has been

1239
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 4: able to maintain is one of the most special things

1240
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in women's ever made no doubt.

1241
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: People think some people, I think, would think we should

1242
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: have Juliana Pana now, if not on this list, just

1243
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: recognized in some form. But that's also hard to do.

1244
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not letting me celebrate chev Chenko on

1245
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: that level. I mean, would you say that Kayla Harrison

1246
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: over Holly Holmes should be considered at this level.

1247
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: For performance of the year.

1248
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah no, what about did Sheeva against uh?

1249
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: Tyler Santos were willing to entertain that?

1250
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, all right, I see where you're going

1251
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: with that. Look, let's keep oh Long Island, Luke, what

1252
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: did any did any of the fans? And also would

1253
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: you like on this one?

1254
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: I had Max over Justin. It was just hard for

1255
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: me to deny that.

1256
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: Again. This is why I don't we'll talk about it

1257
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: sarl Island and Luke. Now people are calling a fight

1258
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: of the year, and I don't. Please don't mis understand me.

1259
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 4: I like the fight. It was a great fight, kind

1260
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: of one sided man like Max took it to him.

1261
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 5: I don't think that should performance. Max was a huge

1262
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 5: dog coming into that. It's like, dude, that was a

1263
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 5: great he was up five or like.

1264
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: It was a back and forth slugfest. Max beat him.

1265
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: I agree, that's a great win performance. Uh.

1266
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: The fans though, they went forty four percent over Max. Yeah,

1267
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: next up was mine thirty three percent, Max over Justin,

1268
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 5: and then hams Out over Whitaker thirteen percent.

1269
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: All great choices.

1270
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Can't go wrong, can't go wrong. Hey, let's keep the

1271
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 1: show going right now, Luke comeback Fighter of the Year.

1272
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: All three of us had the same pick. In boxing,

1273
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: it's a slam dunk. It's Daniel Dubois triple d. Look,

1274
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: he's just a different fighter in the last twelve months.

1275
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: And it certainly began at the end of last year

1276
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: with that stoppage laid against Jerrell Big Baby Miller. But

1277
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: that was a close fight. What has happened since then

1278
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: has been destruction going in there for the vacant IBF title. Granted,

1279
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: there was no need for that title to become vacant

1280
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: Ousik had just become the undisputed champion. But what didu

1281
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: Bois do with his opportunity? Ran through on beating Philip

1282
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: Ergovich and then gets the Anthony Joshua fight, And even

1283
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: though in hindsight, like, yeah, it was closer to fifty

1284
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: to fifty than maybe it feels like coming out after

1285
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: that shocking performance, but like he's done it a couple

1286
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: of times this year. Now, it was different. Not the

1287
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: same guy from the Joe Joyce fight when he was criticized,

1288
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: not the same guy from other times when he looked

1289
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: like he was about to show us how great he

1290
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: could be, but he leveled off right now, He's raised

1291
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: the roof, He's pushed the ceiling past. This was an

1292
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: incredible comeback year for him. He's gonna get a chance

1293
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: against Usak, a second chance, and he's gonna deserve it

1294
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: if he ends up being the underspeted champion, because this

1295
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: guy's turned his career around and you've got to recognize that.

1296
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: But also he is awkward on the microphone, so shout

1297
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: out to Triple D.

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he looks like he you know, he

1299
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: reminds me of Anthony Marbury eating basoline on what do

1300
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: I say? Yes, Stefan Marberry, he said, Anthony Marbarry, My

1301
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: brain's Tony mar Gets. Okay, good, I'm glad you corrected me.

1302
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: You get what I'm trying to say, just fucking eating vasily.

1303
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: But dude, he didn't. Okay, you mentioned like he got

1304
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: criticized with a Joys fight. No, he he got left

1305
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: for dead on the side of the road against Joyce.

1306
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: They called him a quitter. They said he just didn't

1307
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: have it. He was weak. He was never gonna he's

1308
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: never gonna amount to anything. You know, good, athleticism, decent

1309
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: British boxer, but that's all he's never gonna be. Fuck that, dude.

1310
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: He completely transformed not just his career but the way

1311
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: in which he has perceived this. You know, you're asking, like,

1312
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: what was his signature win in his career? I don't

1313
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: even know what he'll do the rest of his time

1314
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: to see. I know that win over Joshua will at

1315
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: a bare minimum serve as at least one signature win

1316
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: that he'll have had in his career. That is insanely impressive.

1317
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: What he was able to do just ran a guy over,

1318
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: and in doing so, ran over all of the nonsense

1319
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: people had said about him following that Joyceswy, which, by

1320
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 4: the way he turned out, he had like really severe

1321
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: injuries that he needed to take the he needed to

1322
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: quit in that bout and he saved himself. And and

1323
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: also just kind of showing how stupid some of the

1324
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: boxing analysis, and this happens at MMA two where people

1325
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: just write people off like, oh, he's a quitter and

1326
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It's like, dude, if you're fucking I

1327
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: socket has broken. Like I always say this, Matt Sarah

1328
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: didn't stop George Saint Pierre cold Matt Sarah rocked him.

1329
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: And if you go and notice Saint Pierre tapped to strikes.

1330
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: So you can call Saint Pierre a bitch if you

1331
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 4: want to, that's okay, But look at what he was

1332
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: able to do after that fight. He got revenge and

1333
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: went on and I mean it was a good run

1334
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 4: before that, but continued an amazing run after that. Like

1335
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 4: the notion that people who quit in combat sports are these,

1336
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 4: you know, defective cowards, you just there's been there's too

1337
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: much evidence now to know to realize now, but that's

1338
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: just really really unfair labeling to a lot of otherwise

1339
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: really talented fighters.

1340
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: No doubt you nailed it. And I just said, by

1341
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: the way, that he'll get his second chance.

1342
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 4: As a fight Parker.

1343
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Look who I'm overlooking the number two guy on my

1344
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: list for boxing come come back Fire of the Year.

1345
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: That's Joseph Parker. What he did this year, which is

1346
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: take that wide decision from Deontay Wilder. I yet, while

1347
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: there was washed his heck in that one, but then

1348
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: going there against a red hot big bang Zang and

1349
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: come away with yes, a disputed majority decision win, but

1350
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,959
Speaker 1: a strong performance from Parker. He will get his chance

1351
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: February twenty second to go up against number one comeback

1352
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: fight of the year Duboi, and if he wins that

1353
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Parker versus Usik, I wouldn't hate that either. I'd more prefer,

1354
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 1: of course, the Dubois rematch, but I got a shout

1355
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: out to Joseph Parker. I also have to shout out

1356
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz Junior, who was out of the ring for

1357
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years, had all those medical scares, went

1358
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: up into a new weight class and really was a

1359
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: put on some thrillers this year, including that Fight of

1360
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: the Year contender against Sir hey Boachuk. Shout out to

1361
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz Junior, reminding us of how great he seems

1362
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: to be, how exciting he is, and now he's proven

1363
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: he can do it at one fifty four with the

1364
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: health concerns behind him. Anybody else you're considering Luke in

1365
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: this no.

1366
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: I had a hard time with this one because I

1367
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 4: was looking for something akin to what Duboi had achieved,

1368
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 4: which is, like, you know, really shattering the nature of

1369
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 4: what he was up against. And you'd pick some decent

1370
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 4: ones obviously, but there was nothing that really stood out

1371
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: for me hardcore. The Duboir one was the one where

1372
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 4: I can't recall more people being like I was wrong

1373
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 4: about a guy. Yeah, than that fight, I just don't

1374
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: even actually, I don't even know what a close second

1375
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: would even look.

1376
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: There's no close second. So let's go over to MMA

1377
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: Comeback Fighter of the Year. Three of us had three

1378
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: different picks, Luke, I want you to go first, who

1379
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: had the best comeback year?

1380
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: So you can pick. I mean, this is one I

1381
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: struggled a little bit. So I'm gonna go partly off narrative, okay,

1382
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: and what it symbolized, And that's not always the best

1383
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: way to do it, and sometimes it can be applied inconsistently.

1384
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: But for me, I'm gonna give it to Francis and Ganu.

1385
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 4: Now I understand he only fought one time, and he

1386
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: fought against a guy who in the end was really

1387
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 4: not up to his level of skill. But you'll recall

1388
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: he'd been out of the MMA cage. I know he'd

1389
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: fought in boxing, but we're talking about MMA comebacks. He'd

1390
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 4: been out of the MMA cage for several years. Obviously

1391
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: at that point or was it two years, he'd been

1392
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: out something that by the time he yeah, by the

1393
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 4: time he returned. Remember that was the first time we

1394
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: saw him since recovering from knee surgery, right, And this

1395
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 4: is really the lynchpin to what PFL does. Like Dakota

1396
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 4: Ditschev is interesting for PFL because she is what they

1397
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: do well, which is they can find someone, put them

1398
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: in a tournament. And I know it's been more than

1399
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: just one tournament, but like put them in a tournament

1400
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: and they win it, and now all of a sudden

1401
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 4: they're on everyone's radar. They got a good amount of

1402
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: money and like this tournament like was enabled them to

1403
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: rise through visibility ranks to become something special at least

1404
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 4: to hard core fans. That's the core of what they

1405
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 4: do well. But they have to figure out like another

1406
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 4: level to what they do because if that's all they

1407
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 4: can do well, once they service someone to that top

1408
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: level from the tournament, they have nowhere else to go.

1409
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 4: So like Francis is huge for just being able to

1410
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: have a section of their business BC where they can say, hey,

1411
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: if you've graduated to a different level, this is what

1412
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 4: we can do with you. I don't know if they're

1413
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 4: actually gonna do that with ditchebub. I'm just making a

1414
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: point of like what they need, so between like the

1415
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 4: knee surgery, I should say, among the knee surgery, among

1416
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: the time off, among the stakes, about what it meant for.

1417
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: By the way, remember Francis had lost twice in boxing,

1418
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 4: one of which was the one you had spotlet BC

1419
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 4: where he was viciously chaoed. He had a lot to

1420
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 4: come back from, not least of which I haven't even

1421
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: mentioned the fact that he had an absolutely unfathomable personal

1422
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: tragedy on top of that. And he went out there

1423
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: and he fucked head and for head up doing it

1424
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: with smarts athletic ability. He was brought to tears as

1425
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: a result of the relief that he was able to

1426
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 4: enjoy from this being over. I'm not saying there aren't

1427
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: guys who didn't do more in twenty twenty four. Of

1428
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 4: course there are. But that was big for Francis. I

1429
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: think it was. I think he wins it for me.

1430
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great choice. He wasn't in my top three,

1431
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: but in hindsight I was wrong for that. He should

1432
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: be if strongly considered, if not outright having won it.

1433
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he was devastatingly knocked out by Anthony Joshua.

1434
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: Like I talked to people in his camp and they

1435
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: were like, oh, it was bad, you know, And he

1436
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: came back like nothing. And the personal tragedy, like we're

1437
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: dealing with somebody that's just different has always been different.

1438
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: Wow.

1439
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm though, gonna give my vote to the Korean superboy

1440
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: Douhu Choi, who had that stretch of defeats devastatingly all

1441
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: in crazy brawls and wars, where like I had forgotten

1442
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: that the time off he had recently was due to

1443
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: the military service in South Korea. I thought he had

1444
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: taken too much damage and had stepped away. So for

1445
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: him to come back be completely off the radar and

1446
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: go to and oh this year, and I think with

1447
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 1: two stoppages like that, that's a nice rebound, Like he's

1448
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: back to some degree, Luke. Maybe not definitely a title

1449
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: contender back, but he's opened our eyes and reminded us

1450
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: once more. And I'm happy to see that for him.

1451
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great call. I didn't. I

1452
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: had kind of forgotten about him, right, I'd kind of

1453
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 4: forgotten about him, and then to look as smooth and

1454
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 4: and as improved as he did while still being a

1455
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: devastating force. Again, he's still got a little bit of

1456
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: prime left or post prime or at the tail end

1457
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: of the prime, however you want to put it. Uh,

1458
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 4: I think that's a that's a very very respectable.

1459
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 1: Choice, Long Island. Look, you had a different number one

1460
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: than us, Please share.

1461
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went a little I guess off the radar,

1462
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 5: went yusuf is alaw. I mean the guy was in

1463
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 5: the UFC one, got cut, comes back. I mean he

1464
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: won a few on the regional but now he's three

1465
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 5: and oher on a second stint in the UFC. Three

1466
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 5: subs beat Billy Q Jack Shore. Like, this guy's solid.

1467
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 4: He looks like a great choice again, not not the

1468
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 4: biggest fights, not the biggest names, but quality names for

1469
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 4: anybody who knows what they're looking at. And you're right,

1470
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: like a lot of times guys get cut, they go

1471
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: to the regional scene. That's a rap for them. They

1472
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 4: might get back, but you know they're not all that

1473
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: much better. He looks like he's a lot better and absolutely.

1474
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: But dom Reis we also have to shout out, wasn't

1475
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, incredibly highest level matchmaking, but a step forward

1476
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: gets the two wins, gets stoppages like he needed that

1477
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: at thirty four. Who knows, who knows what's left for him.

1478
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: We'll see. Look, it's hard. I wanted to give Joaquin

1479
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: Buckley the respect, but the reality is last year he

1480
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: had one two in a row in a new weight class. Yeah,

1481
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: but I wanted to throw a vote at him though,

1482
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: just to basically say he still made this insane leap

1483
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: from that point to where he's almost kind of in

1484
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: the Fighter of the Year discussion to some degree. So

1485
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: that's a that's not a full comeback, but it's it's

1486
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: a it's a huge change.

1487
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: It doesn't it doesn't match what we're looking for for comeback.

1488
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 4: But to your point, there's something about the year he

1489
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 4: had that doesn't neatly fit in any kind of one category,

1490
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 4: pardon me one category, but it's still worthy of acknowledgment

1491
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 4: about like what this guy has done to change his fortunes.

1492
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 4: Sure I acknowledge that, certainly, do.

1493
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: You have anyone else you want to recognize?

1494
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: Again? I think you can put Brandon Voivl on this

1495
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 4: list two wins in this year. Again, he was not

1496
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 4: supposed to be anywhere near relevancy following his last loss

1497
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 4: and just decided I'm not done yet. I'm not even

1498
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 4: close to being done yet. And I really feel like, again.

1499
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: Scot Barry him, he was pretty close to relevancy in

1500
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: that division.

1501
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm just saying, if you lose a bunch

1502
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: of title fights, I'm not going to give another one

1503
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 4: they want. I think the matchmakers want to move on

1504
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 4: beyond him, and he simply just won't let them. Yeah.

1505
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: No, in that regard, Yes, he deserves the respect on here.

1506
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going and breakthrough fighter of the year.

1507
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: This is kind of a generic way to combine prospect

1508
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: of the Year with the idea of who just stole

1509
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: the attention for the year, you know, for the first

1510
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: time in a lot of ways, not a comeback fighter

1511
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: of the year, but who was the big breakthrough one

1512
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: Luke in boxing, I struggled with this because we're kind

1513
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: of casting a wide net. You can go more of

1514
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: a prospect who finally took a big step up or

1515
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: what have you. But I gotta go Keishan Davis because

1516
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: I think he closed this year not just by selling

1517
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: the tickets in his hometown and then delivering in that

1518
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: big spot top rank gave him, but raising his level

1519
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: of competition, regularly calling out the biggest fighters in and

1520
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: around this weight class, carrying himself in a way outside

1521
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: the ring that raises your expectations into what this guy

1522
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: can do, but then going in the ring and showing

1523
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: you that already he's very close to being of that

1524
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: top end. Ilk, we just got to see it in

1525
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: the big fights. But he wants the big fights now.

1526
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,440
Speaker 1: He broke through, in my opinion, from prospect territory to aggressively.

1527
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: Now take him very serious. Moving forward to me, I

1528
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: give him a lot of respect for that. He blew

1529
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: me away. I'm going to give him my.

1530
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: Vote and had a fight in his hometown delivered, can

1531
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 4: do media. You know, has a personality, an has a

1532
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 4: boxing identity. All of that kind of came into focus

1533
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 4: this year as well. So I think that's part of it.

1534
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 4: I want a bit of a different route. Excuse me

1535
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: if I may. I went with Bam Rodriguez. I know

1536
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 4: he only thought two fights and it's hardly some like

1537
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 4: new thing that everyone knows he's good. But to the

1538
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: point you raised, what he did against the strata is

1539
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: fucking amazing, and then to follow it up the way

1540
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 4: he did so cleanly with Gaevada, Like, I feel like

1541
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: what he did this year was again did he transform everything? No,

1542
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 4: but I think this was one of the years where

1543
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 4: I really begin to notice he was on a lot

1544
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 4: more people's radar as a consequence of what he was

1545
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: able to put together and in a way where you're

1546
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 4: talking about i mean pound for pound greatness potentially you know,

1547
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 4: unifying ability down the line. Again, he's not quite there yet,

1548
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 4: but just twenty four years of age, it just felt

1549
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 4: like he took a big step up, not just in

1550
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: terms of what he showed us he could do, but

1551
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 4: what we were allowed to imagine him being capable of.

1552
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 4: And then how much he was on everyone's radar after

1553
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: the fact that I'm going to give it to him.

1554
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not against that at all. Both of us

1555
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: have the same number two, Luke, and that's twenty year

1556
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: old UK heavyweight Moses Otama, who's getting a lot of

1557
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: love in Riodd's Sison circles and will get big placement

1558
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: to do big, huge things like maybe make this run

1559
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: at Mike Tyson's record for being the youngest heavyweight champion

1560
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: at age twenty. I think there's still time, but this

1561
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: calendar year. I'm counting one, two, three, four wins all

1562
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: by stoppage and went from a guy who you know,

1563
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't known much about to oh crap, we better

1564
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: all catch up quickly. This guy's coming on. He's ready

1565
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: to burst through.

1566
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: Say something to Yeah, well, I mean, BC, you know

1567
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: this as well as I do. You know, top ranks

1568
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 4: trying to make us think that Richie Torres is like

1569
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: the next big thing in American boxing. And maybe he is.

1570
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 4: You know, he seems like a nice dude, and he's

1571
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 4: got some ability, and he seems like a decent athlete.

1572
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: But I remain unconvinced. Moses Tama looks I don't know,

1573
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: there's something special about him. He looks like he is

1574
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 4: read ready and just you know, what is he now

1575
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 4: in nineteen twenty whatever the fuck he is, I don't know.

1576
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: I feel like they're not I don't think they're headed

1577
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 4: for similar accolades. I think Etama's headed for something special.

1578
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and he's in He's in there. He's aligned perfectly

1579
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: because I think Turkey's gonna give him a chance to

1580
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: do huge things, and if he can do it, he'll

1581
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: be a star. Like he's ready. Martin mccoley at heavyweight

1582
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: had only that one performance against Big Baby Anderson, but

1583
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: raised his stock so aggressively with it that it was

1584
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: a breakthrough in that regard, Luke, you threw a vote

1585
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: that Daniel Dubat similarly could easily win this, right, he

1586
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: could easily win this.

1587
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I feel like for breakthrough, Duboi was already

1588
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 4: fighting Usik before all of this, so, like you know,

1589
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: he had been in a level of relevancy that was

1590
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: a little bit different than what kind of guys you're

1591
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: talking about, certainly like Keishawn Davis, however, as again a

1592
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: guy who shattered the way that people understand him, not

1593
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 4: just with the Joshua fight, he kind of laid the

1594
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 4: foundation for the Herkovic fight and the Big Baby fight

1595
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 4: as well, and then just blew the doors wide open

1596
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 4: on the Joshua fight. I kind of feel like he

1597
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 4: matches this criteria here a little bit as well.

1598
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke, do you do you have the fans

1599
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: view on this? Do you have a vote to throw

1600
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: out yourself?

1601
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 5: I was going to say I told bcpre show that

1602
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 5: I really struggled with this. I had no idea who

1603
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 5: to pick, and I maybe thought of it a little

1604
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 5: outside the box, and I did David Morrell Junior because

1605
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 5: he's finally breaking through getting that Benavidez fight. Didn't really

1606
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 5: have a great twenty twenty four, but he finally get

1607
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 5: in the big shot.

1608
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: So that was my call there.

1609
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: Terrible.

1610
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 3: Didn't even put it in the poll for the fans.

1611
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 5: The fans when Bam Rodriguez fifty eight percent, next up

1612
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 5: Keishan Davis nineteen percent, mostes Atama fourteen percent.

1613
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: Hey, great performances from all, but on the MMA side,

1614
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: tell me it's not Dakota Ditchiva Luke. I got a

1615
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: text message from my dad this week that said Dakota

1616
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: Ditchiva Wow. And then I'm like, what are you talking about?

1617
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: He said he ran into some YouTube ihlight video and

1618
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,440
Speaker 1: was like, who is this? What's going on here? That's

1619
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: pretty breakthrough. But obviously when you go in the cage,

1620
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: step up from the PFL sort of regional levels to

1621
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: the world levels of what they're building there and then

1622
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: facing like legitimate ex UFC title challengers and running through

1623
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: people and making it look efficient and effortless star power two. Yeah,

1624
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: they got something there with PFL. I mean they even

1625
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: got UFC to pick up the phone and offer a trade, Like,

1626
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: holy crap.

1627
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can say more about that.

1628
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: I can't.

1629
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 4: You're kind of just dropping some nuggets here. Huh. Yeah.

1630
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 4: If I was UFC, I would want to trade somebody

1631
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 4: for her too. She is maybe the most the electric

1632
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: talent in all the women's ever ma I mean, I

1633
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 4: don't know if it's quite far and along enough for

1634
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 4: us to say that, but if she's not, she's pretty close.

1635
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 4: She is dynamite. And by the way, you see credit,

1636
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 4: this is what I mean about what PFL does. And

1637
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 4: now again this is a little bit slightly beyond what

1638
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: the tournament itself can offer. But like they had two

1639
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: people I thought really kind of maybe had a breakthrough

1640
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 4: Fight of the Year performances, both Paul Hughes and Dakota

1641
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: Ditchiva I think could be part of this for the PFL.

1642
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 4: But in the case of Ditchiva, dude, it's just so

1643
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 4: fucking easy finishing everybody. She's She's got personality, she has

1644
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 4: well rounded skills, she is a born finisher, Like, I mean,

1645
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: who is doing that on the women's side of the game.

1646
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 4: On the for UFC right now, with that same kind

1647
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,480
Speaker 4: of verb nobody and has.

1648
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: Like somewhat of a Ronde Rousiest backstory with her mom

1649
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: being a legend in her same sport, and so yeah,

1650
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like. Paul Hughes got my number

1651
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: two votes, So like, for all the things we say

1652
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: about PFL, these are two very big things that happened

1653
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: to them in twenty twenty four and they did it

1654
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: through their homegrown system and trying to get people from

1655
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: the European PFL League or the MINA or whatever and

1656
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: then bring them. You know, look, do I think that's

1657
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: the best way for them to try to succeed as

1658
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: a number two that's out there saying they're already co

1659
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: number one. No, we've argued against that. But these are

1660
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: great developments in the in the sport of MMA in

1661
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: terms of young fighters about to do huge things, and

1662
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: PFL has done a very good job with them. Luke

1663
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Protests will probably deserve some love from us because

1664
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: he's had a year or that could get him in

1665
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: this discussion, no doubt, Long Island, Luke, what was your vote?

1666
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 3: Was it?

1667
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: Protest? Where'd you go here?

1668
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 3: He was? I was debating on him.

1669
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 5: I went Joaquim Buckley man four straight wins, I mean

1670
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 5: two over former title challengers. I don't have him as

1671
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 5: a breakthrough fighter of the year. He's headlining events now,

1672
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.

1673
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 4: I think he belongs. I think also Carlos Protests and honestly,

1674
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 4: Diego Lopez belongs on that list as well. There's a

1675
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: few of them on the MMA side that really neatly

1676
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 4: fit this criteria that you could pick.

1677
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Fight of the Year, and in.

1678
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: Boxing you have the fans pick.

1679
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh yes, can we get the fans choice on.

1680
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 3: This, Luke?

1681
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so forty three percent to code, a ditch of

1682
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: a thirty three percent, Carlos protest, one percent, Jake in Buckley.

1683
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 4: That's all right. I'm alright with that, all right.

1684
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, my dad only texted me usually about Sean O'Malley. Luke,

1685
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: that's the only person he knows in this sport. He

1686
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: still thinks it's bare knuckle.

1687
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 4: Well, my dad doesn't text me about it at all.

1688
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. All right, I said, we're

1689
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: going to boxing fight of the year, Luke, my choice.

1690
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: You already knew it. Usik Fury won May eighteenth. I

1691
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: thought it was better than the rematch, which I still

1692
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: really thoroughly enjoyed from the drama, to the skill level,

1693
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: to the technical nature. But the first fight had more action,

1694
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: more pockets of sustained dominance for each fighter as well.

1695
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: We got to see so much heart and character from

1696
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 1: both in this. We got to see a breakthrough performance

1697
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: from Usik. I didn't you know this is they produced

1698
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: a fight that as a fight fan, to be fair,

1699
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: you only dream of. And now this wasn't like this

1700
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: fight isn't going to get the reverence of Gotti Ward

1701
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: Patio Marcus for you know, it wasn't on that level

1702
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: of an action fight. But I thought it over delivered

1703
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: on the potential for entertain for seeing two all time

1704
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: greats who are both undefeated champions coming into this historic fight,

1705
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: really show the best of themselves in certain areas, and

1706
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: yet one fighter fought through that with a razor threat

1707
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: thin victory. It's your dream that fights on this stage

1708
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: end up playing out that that. Well, we got we

1709
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: got a few of those this year, but this was

1710
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: a gift to boxing. It was perfection to me. That's

1711
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: my fight of the year.

1712
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 4: This is one of those fights. It's my fight of

1713
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 4: the year as well, one of those fights where sometimes

1714
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 4: we get to these questions of like, you know what

1715
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 4: has better main events mmy or boxing, And of course,

1716
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of different ways in which

1717
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 4: you could preference is going to play a role here.

1718
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that there aren't NME fights that

1719
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 4: are better than Furr of Usic. There are, But what

1720
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 4: I'm trying to point out is these twelve round up

1721
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 4: and down undulating narratives, These like, you know, almost like

1722
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 4: a horse race. One guy takes the lead, then the other,

1723
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 4: then the other. Then it bleeds over the course of

1724
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: you know, more than forty five minutes essentially beyond that

1725
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 4: we have taken as the rounds expire. So it's got

1726
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 4: this long pronounced feeling of like an epic battle taking place.

1727
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: And when you have the skill level involved, and you

1728
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: have the stakes involved, and then again that ninth round involved,

1729
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,959
Speaker 4: it just shows you, like what a first rate boxing

1730
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 4: main event can do, and what it can feel like

1731
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 4: and what it special it can be. I can't even

1732
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 4: think of anything that would be even remotely close to

1733
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 4: Fury versus Usik. Better be Vival was a fine fight,

1734
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 4: but it wasn't anything close to this. This was the

1735
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: boxing fight of the year bar nun and an example

1736
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 4: of what the sport can look like at times when

1737
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 4: it's at its best.

1738
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: Yes, well, I can only disagree from this standpoint. I

1739
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: think there was a number two that came close to

1740
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: make this an argument. I think Katie Taylor and Amanda

1741
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 1: Serrano in the rematch, given the platform and the stakes,

1742
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: and how many casual fans saw that, like, holy crap,

1743
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: we got to see not in the main event, but

1744
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: in the co main event. We got to see in

1745
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: a lot of sense everything you just said about Usk

1746
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: Fury won the best of what women's boxing can offer,

1747
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: and they again like kind of overachieved and delivering that.

1748
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: The first fight instant classic, the second fight instant classic.

1749
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: It had controversy, it had a lot going for it.

1750
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: It was also two of I think the four greatest

1751
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: female boxers of all time, not at their physical primes anymore,

1752
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: but yet at the same time perfect dance partners to

1753
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: have this epic rivalry. Yeah, if you have that at

1754
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: number one, I'm not upset with that at all at all.

1755
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 4: Yes, But at the same time, I you know, that

1756
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 4: thing was so marred by how it's live broadcast went yes,

1757
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 4: and the double cheeks from Tyson, Yeah yeah, and then

1758
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 4: then having to look at Mike Tyson's butt cheeks was

1759
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 4: not awesome. I think that was a great fight, and

1760
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: I do think it is it has it deserves a

1761
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 4: place that's on my list as number two, but I

1762
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 4: just don't. I think it's a distant number two, to

1763
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 4: be honest with you.

1764
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta throw love as an honorable mention

1765
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: to Virgil Ortiz Junior and Sir hey Boa. Chuck Look,

1766
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: Golden Boyce had had a very good year as a promotion,

1767
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: and this was a fight that was originally going to

1768
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: be on that August third card as a replacement to

1769
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: the original idea of Tim Zoo against Virtual or Tease.

1770
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: But consider that this was Ortiz coming back from a

1771
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: couple of years off all those medical concerns in a

1772
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: new way class and he gets a replacement opponent in

1773
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: Serrey Bochuk that they realized this fight was so good

1774
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: they pulled it off that loaded LA card, made it

1775
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: its own main event, and it absolutely over delivered on brutality, action,

1776
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: EBB and flow. Controversy or dispute with the scorecards. I mean,

1777
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: what a classic thriller that would have won in my

1778
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: opinion in most other years.

1779
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 4: Phenomenal fight. It was my number three fight on this list.

1780
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 4: I don't have much to add bey on what you

1781
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 4: had said, but these three to me stood out far

1782
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 4: in excess of the others this year in terms of like, well,

1783
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,839
Speaker 4: all the things we mentioned, but the last two in particular,

1784
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 4: two way action fights that still had significance in a

1785
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: variety different capacities. Obviously it's going to be different for

1786
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 4: Serrano and Taylor versus Otz and Bochuck, But in any case,

1787
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: those are the three that I picked. I I think

1788
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: those are the best by far.

1789
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we throw respect at bevil and better and

1790
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: put this in this discussion? No, it was a technical, brilliant,

1791
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: dramatic fight, but it wasn't over the action, and maybe.

1792
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: I think I think we can acknowledge a fight having

1793
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 4: incredibly important value being between two very, very very skilled

1794
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 4: guys and it being a fine and maybe even a

1795
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 4: good fight, but not an award winning fight. No, it

1796
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: was not an award winning fight.

1797
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: No long Island, Luke, you had to pick different from ours,

1798
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: but I don't hate it. Break it down for.

1799
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 5: Me, Well, you guys all picked ones that went the distance,

1800
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 5: which I think is solid when picking a fight of

1801
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 5: the year. I went for that two round banger Abdulla

1802
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 5: Mason versus Yolan Vasquez.

1803
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, that was one of the best fights

1804
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: of the year, Luke, let's be it was.

1805
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 4: It was, guys, you can't pick a fight of the

1806
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: year where one guy just says, you know what, fuck, defense.

1807
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 3: Creates, creates a good fight, Dude, creates a good fight.

1808
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 4: It was who I like, this is why MMA fans

1809
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 4: love Yeerie. And while I'm like, do you guys not

1810
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 4: notice he doesn't use defense, Like we don't give a fuck.

1811
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 4: We just care about his offense.

1812
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, Austin rules, Luke, do the

1813
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: fans have a consensus pick on this?

1814
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going fifty nine percent Usk Fury one and

1815
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 5: they're going thirty percent Serrano Taylor too, seven percent Ortiz

1816
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 5: Junior Boichuk.

1817
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: Also Fundora versus Zoo I'm gonna put some respect in

1818
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: that one too. Fight of the Year contender honorable mention.

1819
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was gnarly.

1820
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was definitely gnarly. I mean it

1821
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 4: was our fucking bloodbath.

1822
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a big debate here in MMA,

1823
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, what's your fight of the year?

1824
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 4: So this one was really tough for me, and this

1825
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 4: is why. Okay, so I picked three of these that

1826
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 4: I would ordinarily never pick. That's not quite true that

1827
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 4: I would not put near the top of the list,

1828
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: but I don't have a choice. A lot of times,

1829
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 4: what people do in MMA is they pick the wildest

1830
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 4: fucking brawl, you know what I mean, or like a

1831
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 4: guy a fight where there's like they picked the college okay,

1832
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 4: b see, you know as well as I do that,

1833
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 4: Like in college football, these guys can only take snaps

1834
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: out of the shotgun, right, they cannot take snaps under center.

1835
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 4: And you know, do you see these scores like fifty

1836
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 4: two to forty nine all the fucking time because in

1837
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 4: college they're just they're playing different schemes, yes, but they're

1838
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 4: just not as good defensively at all. And that shit

1839
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 4: comes to a stop for the most part when they

1840
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 4: get to the NFL, with some exception, and so it's

1841
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 4: just a different ballgame. And to me, what a lot

1842
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 4: of guys do in MMA when they make awards is

1843
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 4: they pick the college football version of what the best

1844
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 4: fight is, which is just rock em sock them, no defense.

1845
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 4: I should see how it goes. Now, I ordinarily never

1846
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 4: pick that kind of a thing, or at least I

1847
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: don't rank it as number one, because I feel like

1848
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 4: that's the wrong way to look at the sport. However, however,

1849
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 4: in this particular year, there just wasn't really a clash

1850
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 4: of the titans that was I mean, Max and Ilia

1851
01:25:59,439 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 4: was the close.

1852
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's the answer. No, sorry, not Maximilia. You're okay.

1853
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: Maximilia is in this discussion.

1854
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 4: I will say that it was a.

1855
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Great back and forth fight at the highest level in

1856
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: terms of technique but also the reality of the brutal shots.

1857
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: But I don't see how Max versus Geechee is not

1858
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: getting more argument that's my number one fight of the

1859
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: year that it's not completely one sided. But I want

1860
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: to add in this it's a it's a fight that

1861
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of pressure on it because it's a

1862
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: BMF fight. It's in the position, in the slot it

1863
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: was to almost kind of hopefully carry UFC three hundred,

1864
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: and it did. It really did, and it helped that

1865
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: card like deliver in such a huge way. But there

1866
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: was the tense opening round of seeing Max deal with

1867
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: someone so dangerous in Geechee, considering where our expectations were

1868
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: coming in. Then you have that sort of crazy strike

1869
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: at the end of that round that Max lands that

1870
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: creates the injury on Geechee. And I get what your

1871
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: point that it wasn't back and forth action entirely throughout

1872
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: that middle, and maybe that's the blind spot there that

1873
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: would prevent it from other people giving it the number

1874
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: one slot. But it was enough and to see how

1875
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: it was going to end and where we were and

1876
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:17,480
Speaker 1: then have it elevated so further. The only finished remotely

1877
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: comparable to that, I mean, maybe beyond Yaya Rodriguez doing

1878
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: that to Korean Zombie in a situation like that with

1879
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: one second to go in a very close fight. This

1880
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: one wasn't as close. But it gave me like Paack

1881
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: Paquio Marquez four vibes to some degree. I don't know, man,

1882
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: it was just that was a piece of entertainment and

1883
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: I was entertained, and it had so much pressure on

1884
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: it to do that, and then it smashed through and

1885
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: gave us like the ultimate feel good moment. This might

1886
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 1: be main moment of the year, luke it also, I

1887
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: think there was the fight of the year because of that,

1888
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: not just because of that, but because of the total

1889
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: entertainment experience.

1890
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 4: Performance of the year, not fight of the year. Fight

1891
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 4: of has to be a two way street. It just

1892
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 4: wasn't enough of a two way street.

1893
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: It was a movie, it was a.

1894
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: It was so in the end I ended up picking

1895
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 4: Daniel zel Huber versus Esteban rebel Vix. I think can

1896
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: never pronounce his fucking name from notch UFC. This is

1897
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: not a This is not a fight I would have

1898
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: picked ordinarily. This is not the kind of fight I

1899
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 4: usually like to pick. But I just feel like the

1900
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 4: kinds that I do were in short supply this year.

1901
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: So going with the insane fucking back and forth, you

1902
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 4: could always go also be c butteos rebesci that that

1903
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: was a caveman fight.

1904
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: You gotta give respect to it. I had Rebavich's my

1905
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: number two. Think of the card it's on like it

1906
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: just had this elevated feeling. There were back to back

1907
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: bangers on that Sphere card. To be fair, but how

1908
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: about this for a five round main event? Roy Val

1909
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: versus Tatsuro Tyra. I know there we're donk well, but

1910
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: it was so exciting, so back and forth, dude, that's

1911
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: got to get some love.

1912
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: That was excellent. Mma. Those guys were well man. Actually

1913
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 4: they were well matched in areas that they are both

1914
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 4: confident in and you saw some of that and they

1915
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 4: it was just chess at a really really spectacular Is.

1916
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: It chess when Tyra doesn't move his head once in

1917
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: the whole fight? I don't know, But that.

1918
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 4: Wasn't the sole reason why he lost. That was a

1919
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: big reason why he got whooped on, but like there

1920
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 4: was more to it, certainly on the ground component as well,

1921
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 4: which is what I was really referencing. But I feel

1922
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 4: like that fight deserves contention. Yeah, and also one of

1923
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: those fights were like, you're going to look back and

1924
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 4: see how I think different Tyra will be in terms

1925
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 4: of his growth.

1926
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: But okay, would you would you have a problem if

1927
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: someone said Alex Pereira against Khalil Rowntree because it was

1928
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: you knew that Pereira was down to oh and we

1929
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: didn't expect that.

1930
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 4: I think you could put it honorable mention, but I

1931
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 4: would not give it the award outright. I just I

1932
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 4: know some people feel like they could. I feel like

1933
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 4: that's kind of grating it on a curve a little bit.

1934
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Would you be upset if somebody then said, Islamaha, Dustin Pourier.

1935
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 4: That one, I'd be a little bit more accepting off

1936
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 4: that one was a little bit more back and forth.

1937
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 4: And I take Poorier as a tougher challenge than even

1938
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 4: though I know obviously Roundtree started out with a great lead.

1939
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 4: I don't think he was built to sustain it, Whereas

1940
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 4: I feel like Poortier can be dangerous throughout all five rounds.

1941
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 4: It's tougher division anyway.

1942
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, then, should we also give Poorier love for

1943
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: the BSD fight? I mean, come on, that's that's in there, not.

1944
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: An award, but I could certainly give a salute, tip

1945
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 4: of the cap kind of thing.

1946
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: All right, long Island, Luke, what's your pick? What did

1947
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the fans pick?

1948
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 5: I had Ribevich zell Huber. I mean, that was definitely

1949
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 5: just back and forth. Best fight of the year. The

1950
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 5: fans are siding with UBC Holloway, Gae Chee forty seven percent,

1951
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 5: Donks thirty three percent for zell Huber, Ribevich, and thirteen

1952
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 5: percent for Rebeski.

1953
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Team snack pack over here, they understand me.

1954
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 4: Not a fight of the year really at allat I mean,

1955
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 4: I loved it, but not a fight of the year.

1956
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well you're not an entertained by that. How

1957
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: about this?

1958
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 4: Luke was entbtained.

1959
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I just wasn't entertained in the sis. I'm transitioning. Okay, Luke,

1960
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: let's go to event or card of the year in boxing.

1961
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Certainly Rid Sason had its first full calendar year, and

1962
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot of these picks. Luke.

1963
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: I went with the August third card in LA even

1964
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 1: though there's a lot of things to criticize, from the

1965
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: pacing to the weird moments of the Hall of Fame

1966
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: induction for Turkey, a lot of weirdness. We also got

1967
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Crawford Madrumov, which was kind of a surprising thriller. Uh

1968
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Valenzuela upsetting pitbull cruise in the way he did the

1969
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: Bocoli Anderson brawl. Even though it was at times painful

1970
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: like a ten hour WrestleMania card, it was the card

1971
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: of the year in my opinion.

1972
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 4: So I have a hard time doing Card of the

1973
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: Year in boxing for a lot of different reasons. But

1974
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 4: also I went with a slightly different way of well,

1975
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 4: with a very different way of looking at this PC

1976
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: We called it Event of the Year and card. So

1977
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 4: I feel like you could make one be like the other,

1978
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 4: but they can also be a meaningful difference. I actually

1979
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 4: went with Haney Garcia for my Event of the Year because,

1980
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 4: first of all, the event that the fight itself was

1981
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 4: fucking bananas, right, But the entire week leading up to it,

1982
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 4: with Garcia drinking in the goddamn bar that week was

1983
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,520
Speaker 4: an insane circus.

1984
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: You had to live on Twitter, you had to live

1985
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter that week.

1986
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 4: It was like it was. It was madness. It was

1987
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 4: madness from beginning to end, and by the way, in

1988
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 4: a lot of ways not good. I I'm not sitting

1989
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 4: here saying that all parts of that were like, oh, wholesome,

1990
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 4: fucking fun. I don't mean that Garcia appears to be,

1991
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 4: you know, a very distressed and troubled person, But in

1992
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 4: terms of just like edge of your seat, what is

1993
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 4: about to happen? That week had a lot of that,

1994
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: A lot of that.

1995
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not against that. I'm also not against in

1996
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: strong consideration here to the first PBC pay per view

1997
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: in the Amazon Prime era, that came Mar thirtieth in

1998
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: Vegas Fondora versus Zoo Bloodbath. You had a cruise knocking Piple,

1999
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: cruise knocking out Roly Romero, Boa, Chuck in that brawl

2000
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 1: with Mendoza, Arislandi Laara with the ko win to defend

2001
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: against Zarafa. That was a pretty good, sneaky, great pay

2002
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: per view from PBC there, and they had a couple

2003
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: of these where they've put some good undercards.

2004
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 4: Together, no doubt about it. I think that that certainly

2005
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 4: matches the criteria. Again, this was a tougher one. I

2006
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 4: think you're looking at more like obviously like a boxing

2007
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 4: insider would. I'm taking probably a more casual view, But.

2008
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Well, do you put Tyson Paul in the discussion? Because

2009
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: of that, it took hold of the casual crossover universe

2010
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: and kept us even if we were angry.

2011
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 4: To be it has to deliver, It has to deliver.

2012
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 4: That didn't deliver at all.

2013
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: You did get Marios Ramos and Taylor Serrano too, and

2014
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: then you got.

2015
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 4: You got Netflix problems like there was no Tomorrow, and

2016
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 4: then you had a dog shit main event. No chance

2017
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 4: I could pick that, I dude, the main event. Had

2018
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: it all been interesting. Whatever that means. Maybe you could

2019
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 4: have picked it, but it was a fucking like it.

2020
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 4: It under delivered in the biggest of ways.

2021
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: Would you throw Mozvital versus Diaz in this discussion at all?

2022
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 4: As much as I think that you did a great

2023
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 4: job on that desk.

2024
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: No, thank you, no, hey, that fight over delivered, all right,

2025
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: it did?

2026
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 4: It did over delivered, that's true. I mean it was

2027
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 4: a fine fight in the end, but nothing special.

2028
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: All right, Uh long, I'll look you have any lean

2029
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: on here.

2030
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,959
Speaker 5: I went with you at the August third, Terrence Crawford,

2031
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 5: Israel Madramov. I mean we had Andy Ruiz. We had

2032
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 5: both big babies crews. You mentioned David Morrell Junior. We

2033
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 5: had Andy Cruz. That was a stacked card both on

2034
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 5: paper and it played out pretty well too.

2035
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 3: I gotta choose it.

2036
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: It was some shenanigans though involved in that card.

2037
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 5: I always here and then the fans actually though and

2038
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 5: seventy two percent are actually siding with Luke here on

2039
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 5: HAINI Garcia.

2040
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 3: Oh.

2041
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Interesting, Look that that fight's gotta fall in some of

2042
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: our awards in some form. It took. It was a

2043
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: moment in time. I'll get to that shortly, Mma, I

2044
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: gotta go three hundred April thirteenth. There was a lot

2045
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: of pressure for that card to deliver. They didn't have

2046
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: the main and comine combo that I would have wanted,

2047
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: but in totality, I was entertained aggressively that night. You

2048
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: got to shout them out when they win, Luke, They

2049
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: won big, didn't did they not? Three hundred? Come on?

2050
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 4: That is that I that's the biggest one, that's the

2051
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 4: best one this year or no question in my mind? Again,

2052
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 4: did you get the epic main event and you were wanting?

2053
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 4: Maybe not, but Poeton stepped up and over delivered. You

2054
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 4: gotta meme worthy kind of fucking response there and the

2055
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 4: max Ko and everything else like that is just your

2056
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 4: king event, and you know there's some other good ones.

2057
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 4: But UFC three hundred, easy call?

2058
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: All right, Long Island. Look you agreed with us on there.

2059
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll get back to you in a second, Luke, I

2060
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,879
Speaker 1: got to shout out UFC three to six in the sphere.

2061
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: I got to put it up there. Okay, Again that fight,

2062
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: people argued, wasn't you know deep enough for that event?

2063
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,440
Speaker 1: I think you have to take into account the entertainment

2064
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: value that they were trying to provide with the screens.

2065
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: They did the best they could to translate that to TV.

2066
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Do I want that every time or all the time? No,

2067
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 1: But if that ends up being this one off thing

2068
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: that you know costs so much, they delivered, dude. And

2069
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: there were was compelling results. There were fight of the

2070
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Year candidates on there. There was, you know, a breakthrough

2071
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: story of Marob winning the championship right after Valentino. Valentino

2072
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: gave you a breakthrough story. Although that fight was not exciting.

2073
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that as my number two. Respect it, Luke.

2074
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 4: I like those choices. I mean, for me, I was

2075
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 4: for Mma. I mean I judged it a little bit

2076
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 4: differently because Mma does have cards in ways that boxing

2077
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 4: typically anyway does not. So I went with two ninety

2078
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: eighty eight was the Volkanowski into Porio card. But on

2079
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 4: that you had Whittaker and Costa, which again was a

2080
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 4: great win by Whittaker, Gary beating Neil not the best

2081
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 4: fight per se, but then Marab beatings to Hudo I

2082
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 4: thought was pretty thrilling. Fluffy Hernandez of a Roman Copulav

2083
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 4: was phenomenal, Amandlaimosh Mackenzie Durna was a tough battle, and

2084
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 4: there was some other ones. Rinya Nakamoor was on that car,

2085
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: which was important, and Oban Elliott was on that car,

2086
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,640
Speaker 4: which is important. So for me, that had quality and

2087
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 4: consistently consistency all the way up and down that one,

2088
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 4: I would put that one on the list.

2089
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: I would say that stretch from two ninety eight to

2090
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: three hundred was fantastic.

2091
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you could have put two and nine on the

2092
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 4: list as well.

2093
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But my number three though, was UFC

2094
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: three O eight in Abu Dhabi because they UFC still

2095
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: delivers big on paper at that location. For the site fee.

2096
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: You got Toporia against Holloway, you got Chamaiah Whittaker, you

2097
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: got the Sharer bullet double backfist thing. Yeah, that's enough

2098
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: to put it on there Long Island. Look what did

2099
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 1: the fans think was the best this year?

2100
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 5: I mean they had to go with UFC three hundred.

2101
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 5: How could you not seventy one percent?

2102
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Next up?

2103
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 5: No cha, UFC fifteen percent, UFC threeh eight getting six percent.

2104
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: I want to throw an honorable mention. Okay, Luke, you

2105
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm crazy. You're throwing an able mentioned

2106
01:37:52,520 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: PFL versus Bellator it was fun, it didn't stink.

2107
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 4: And then not award winning.

2108
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: Okay, then what about the PFL Battle of the Giants

2109
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: where you had Cyborg Pacheco and you had Paul Hughes

2110
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: McKee and you had Francis coming back and Johnny Eblin

2111
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: on there.

2112
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 4: Not award winning but better? Yes?

2113
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: Good, all right, all right, let's go to a sound

2114
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: bite slash quote of the year. Uh this, you know, look,

2115
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: these are the enduring quotes that come out of post

2116
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: fight interviews, tweets, whatever that uh you know become part

2117
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: of our lexicon. That changed us For me. I was

2118
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: able to secure a video of this. It's one man

2119
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: in its big bang zang hit.

2120
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 4: It put my power. We're green pool ben each ower.

2121
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: So the recap we are going to bang each owder

2122
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: each ouder luke. Uh.

2123
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do with this category at

2124
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 4: all because nothing thing, dude, I mean, except for Ryan

2125
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 4: Garcia just dropping the N word and saying he hates

2126
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 4: all Muslims. I'm not anxiety and anyway wished to give

2127
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 4: awards to nothing. He stood out.

2128
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,799
Speaker 1: Do not be afraid. I will not leave you alone

2129
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: or the greedy belly. Those two I think are in

2130
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: this too.

2131
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 4: Okay, but he called him greedy belly like all the time.

2132
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he didn't just drop like a boom

2133
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 4: a greedy belly one time.

2134
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Luke, it's a little bit of a quirky category. What

2135
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 1: do you got?

2136
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 5: I went BC's quote of getting Dick down, and then

2137
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 5: he repeated it in the al Jo interview. I mean,

2138
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 5: I thought that was like the MK SoundBite of the year. Yes,

2139
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 5: it was just put the poll out. I'm waiting to

2140
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 5: see give it a minute to see what the fans says.

2141
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Telly al Jo, he got Dick down.

2142
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we'll hear from the fans in

2143
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 1: a second. I wanted to go do best Broadcaster of

2144
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: the Year.

2145
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

2146
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it was in you know, an insanely

2147
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: great year in boxing broadcasting, but I think we definitely

2148
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: shouted people out along the way that have to perform

2149
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: well this year. And I know that to some people

2150
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: this is a polarizing pick, but I disagree. Timothy Bradley Junior,

2151
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 1: I thought of the best twenty twenty four of anyone

2152
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: as the top rank on ESPN Color Analyst, Right, used

2153
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 1: to pair with andre Ward, but that duo broke up

2154
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and I think Bradley stepped

2155
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: up his game. Yes, he can play character at times

2156
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and it rough people the wrong way when he's throwing

2157
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: money in the air. But when I give him this nod,

2158
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: it's because he tells the truth more than any fighter

2159
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 1: in the game that's become an analyst without question. He

2160
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: tells the truth, even if it's against the promotion or

2161
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: the network or the young fighter that's being propped up.

2162
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: He tells the truth. Obviously, he's a Hall of Famer,

2163
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: so he's got a credible background. He's not afraid of

2164
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: controversy or have public disagreements with fighters. He's entertaining me

2165
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day and educating me. I

2166
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: got a shout out to Tim.

2167
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I think that is a little bit strong.

2168
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 4: I don't think he actually is that good. And he

2169
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 4: has a lot of like really shitty takes. Did you

2170
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 4: see him say that Usik was not an all time

2171
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 4: great this?

2172
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: I didn't like that take it all.

2173
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, are you out of

2174
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 4: your fucking mind? But okay, uh for my boxing best

2175
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 4: broadcaster here for boxing. I actually picked Brian Campbell. Can

2176
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 4: you believe this?

2177
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: Oh, get out of here.

2178
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 4: I really did. I'm not kidding.

2179
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: Now.

2180
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 4: You didn't get as much work as you did in

2181
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. That is true because Showtime went could

2182
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 4: put and so did our lives in many ways. But nevertheless,

2183
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 4: you did get some of the desk work obviously for

2184
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 4: the Daz and Massball fight. Plus you were there obviously

2185
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 4: for the Zoo fight. Correct, the Zoo and yes, Murdasalia fight,

2186
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 4: that's true, and calling it BC. Listen, you're a contemptible,

2187
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 4: horrible person. However, I gotta give you credit. I feel

2188
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 4: like you're the most underrated boxing broadcaster that there really is.

2189
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 4: I truly mean that you.

2190
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Didn't need to do that, Luke. I appreciate it.

2191
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 4: No, Well, listen, you're you're absolutely You're absolutely right. I

2192
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 4: didn't need to do it. But if I'm just being honest,

2193
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here listening to you half the time, and

2194
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, I cannot believe this guy doesn't get more

2195
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 4: con system to work. There are other people who do

2196
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 4: a good like I. Really. People may or may not

2197
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 4: like Max Kellerman. I like Max Kellerman a lot, right,

2198
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 4: but he's been sitting on ice for however long. Mark

2199
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 4: Kreegele is fine or whatever. Some of the guys on

2200
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 4: his own are okay, but they're a little weird. Like

2201
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 4: I like Mannix's broadcasting style, but I often disagree with

2202
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 4: some of his takes, you know, so there's a lot

2203
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 4: of that. But I just feel like for ability, level headed,

2204
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 4: takes knowledge of the sport, clean sounding, the whole nine.

2205
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 4: You did the Callum Walsh fight this year as well, right,

2206
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 4: that one on top of it. I don't know, man,

2207
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 4: I really feel like somebody's gonna fucking figure this out eventually.

2208
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 4: That there just there's a guy out there sitting around

2209
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 4: and he might masturbate during the pre production meetings and

2210
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 4: do whippets right after the event is over, but when

2211
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 4: it's time to call the fights, he's good at it

2212
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 4: all right.

2213
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Frank Campbell, thank you for the glazing. I appreciate that

2214
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot. It's gonna happen. The breakthrough is coming. I

2215
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: got a shout out Todd Luke. I know he's not

2216
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: always everyone's cup of tea. I think he delivers some

2217
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: of the best knockout calls and carries the drama of

2218
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: the moment and being with the Zone at the right time.

2219
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 1: With the Turkey Yellow Sheet connection, we saw Todd in

2220
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: some huge, historically great fights. In fact, I thought it

2221
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: was in error that de Zone pulled him from the

2222
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: USIK Fury rematch instead going with the British broadcasting team.

2223
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: I think Todd brings that theatrical boom and excitement to it.

2224
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: He had a very good year. I also want to

2225
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: shout out Sean Porter, whether it's on our podcast as

2226
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 1: a guest analyst, I think he's some of the best

2227
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: takes in the world. On his own podcast. He works

2228
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: for various broadcasters. He's always in my sphere as a

2229
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: guy I get it entertained by and enjoy listening to.

2230
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to add just a couple more names. I

2231
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 4: think that the guy's over at probox TV. Chris al

2232
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 4: Jerry and Paul Melanaji do a fucking pino.

2233
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith too.

2234
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy Smith too. I mean he's doing play by playoff

2235
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 4: kind of thinking more on the color side, just in

2236
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 4: a particular case. But I think those guys Chris Algery

2237
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 4: and pauling Malnauji, just as boxing analysts, are phenomenal. They

2238
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 4: have just a wealth of information trench in observations. They're

2239
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 4: high on my list as well.

2240
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke, can you come in on your choice

2241
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 1: as well as update us on the recent poll.

2242
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 5: So I'm not as familiar with a lot of boxing broadcasters,

2243
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 5: I didn't know we could pick PC.

2244
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 3: I probably would have just picked VC. I went with

2245
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 3: Sean Porter.

2246
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 5: I thought he had a great appearance on MK episode

2247
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 5: earlier in the year. If you guys didn't see that,

2248
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 5: go watch that interview. It's a lot of fun. Poll

2249
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 5: overwhelmingly seventy nine percent. Brian Campbell, Yeah, give got to

2250
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,719
Speaker 5: give an honorable mention to Long Island's on Chris Algery

2251
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 5: though six percent.

2252
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Al Jerry a.

2253
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 4: Jury is great.

2254
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: He's going to be a lead guy for a long

2255
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: time on a lead broadcast. I just we got, you know,

2256
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: the lay of the lands getting figured out as we speak.

2257
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: On the MMA side, I did have a top five

2258
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: ranking of this on my YouTube channel in terms of

2259
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 1: my favorite announcers. But who had the best two twenty

2260
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: twenty four. I gotta give it to Paul Felder. Dude,

2261
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 1: he has made a monster leap where when we sometimes

2262
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: go Okay, who's your preferred eighteen for pay per views

2263
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: if you could choose your own team. I think he's

2264
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: starting to fill that third spot for me because the

2265
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 1: personality is so believable. Obviously the background as an elite,

2266
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, elite fighter but a gnarly hard nos guy too,

2267
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 1: but like his delivery is great, has improved his technique

2268
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: and also you like you kind of just cheer for him.

2269
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: He's got He's always had that very you know, fan

2270
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: friendly vibe. I think he's carried that into broadcasting too.

2271
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 1: He doesn't let me down with his takes. Uh, He's

2272
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: He's great, Luke. I think they could they should consider

2273
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 1: him in like a you know, extremely elevated right below

2274
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:36,679
Speaker 1: DC role.

2275
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, all right, Hi, Paul Felder's on

2276
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 4: my list. I go with Laura Senko. She doesn't get

2277
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 4: the biggest assignments, and so I think a lot of

2278
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 4: this gets lost along the way. I'm gonna say this,

2279
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 4: I think she's their best color commentator. Oh that's certainly debatable,

2280
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 4: but she is the best for me now. I think

2281
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 4: when DC's talking wrestling, there's no one quite as good

2282
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 4: at explaining any one individual skill as good as he

2283
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 4: is at that, but you know he often does like

2284
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 4: the Joe Rogan podcast while they're doing commentations. Yes, yes,

2285
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 4: I think that ends up kind of ruining it a

2286
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 4: little bit, but I do recognize his skill in certain areas.

2287
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 4: I agree Paul Felder has come such a long way.

2288
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 4: I really like his contributions. But for me, Lori Senko

2289
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 4: is the biggest combination of technical know how and then

2290
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 4: doing prep and then why that leads to it's more

2291
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 4: than the some of its parts. When you get that,

2292
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 4: you get actually something a little bit special that really

2293
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 4: elevates the broadcast, really elevates individual fights. She sees things

2294
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 4: and observes them, and they can match it to various

2295
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 4: points of interesting history in ways that none of the

2296
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 4: other guys on that entire UFC team can do. In

2297
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 4: her eye, as I indicate, there are some other guys

2298
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 4: on there that are actually quite good, but she, to

2299
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 4: me is head and shoulders above them. It's just you

2300
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 4: don't get to appreciate it as much because of the

2301
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 4: nature of the assignments that she is giving. And by

2302
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 4: the way, I'm okay with her working her way up.

2303
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they have to put her to the

2304
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 4: front of the line. It's fine that she's on these

2305
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 4: smaller shows to start, you know, everyone has to earn

2306
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 4: their way up, but I think she's doing that quite greatly,

2307
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 4: if I may be see yes, I think another name

2308
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 4: of these he needs to be thrown in here is

2309
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 4: Dan Hardy. Dan Hardy for the PFL. We all have

2310
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 4: our problems with PFL, but Dan Hardy as a commentator

2311
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 4: is fucking great, great energy, great understanding of the sport,

2312
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 4: kind of knows what fans want, knows what the sport needs,

2313
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 4: understands the guys And to me, no one makes the

2314
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 4: PFL when they're speaking about it. No one makes the

2315
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 4: PFL product more palatable than him. I think he is

2316
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 4: a massive credit to that organization. He is a massive

2317
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 4: credit to the sport. And what you want is guys

2318
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 4: to entertain you with the way they commentate, but as

2319
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 4: well to raise your ability to understand it, and I

2320
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 4: think he does it every single time.

2321
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: He's probably too busy with the combination of broadcasting, being

2322
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: in the administrative side of PFL, and then also training

2323
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: his wife, but I think he could be one of

2324
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: the sports elites trainers too. Like he really seems to

2325
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: fit that role and vibe perfectly.

2326
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, the guy can wear many hats and

2327
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 4: commentating it maybe just be one of them, but he's

2328
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 4: damn good at it.

2329
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: I gotta say I gave my number two vote to

2330
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 1: d C. I think he's pulled back some of the

2331
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: over the top of the entertainment side of him that

2332
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 1: people haven't liked. It's, you know, you're getting such great entertainment.

2333
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: Obviously you're getting the X you know, some degree of expertise,

2334
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 1: certainly in wrestling, But dude, the guy is just perfect TV.

2335
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: And what I love the most, like Tim Bradley, is

2336
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: DC's not afraid to take you know, they don't take

2337
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: as aggressively hard takes on a UFC broadcast, certainly not

2338
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: against their own people, not that they need to, but

2339
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: when they need you. DC's not afraid to get in

2340
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 1: a verbal battle with a fighter and be critical. That's

2341
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: his job, man. I think he's great. Laurasenko got my

2342
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: number three, but I think in general, a UFC has

2343
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: very good broadcasters, you know, down to the second and

2344
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: third string in some levels. Not a big bis Ping fan. Look,

2345
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: but that's just me, Okay, that's really justesty.

2346
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't have to kill him,

2347
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 4: but I do think that the ones that we mentioned,

2348
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 4: they've got some real talent. By the way. Also, you know,

2349
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 4: again he doesn't stand out as much because of the

2350
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 4: nature of the assignments. Obviously, we love John Anick, John Nix,

2351
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 4: the best you know in the business. But Brendan Fitzgerald

2352
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 4: very very good, very good commentator. Dan Helly. Also I

2353
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 4: like Dan DC sports legend Dan Helly I think is

2354
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 4: great as well. Also be se. I don't know if

2355
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 4: you saw the Jade and Daniels train yesterday, not the

2356
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 4: one that I was offered to ride in the summer

2357
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 4: of nineteen ninety nine. I mean, a very very a

2358
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 4: very different one, but nevertheless a locomotive named Jade Daniels

2359
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 4: number five place with the Washington Commanders.

2360
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Sorry, I haven't been following the game much long, Island.

2361
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: Look you have anything to add to this.

2362
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 5: Luke just gave him a shout out right at the

2363
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 5: end there. But I picked fitzsy Man. Brendan Fitzgerald. The

2364
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 5: guy does not got enough love. I know, annex the guy,

2365
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 5: but come on, second best Foreshore.

2366
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: No, Fitzy's fantastic. Did the fans have any anything to say.

2367
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what they said.

2368
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 5: Forty five percent picked Lauris Senko, thirty eight percent, Paul

2369
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 5: Felder DC coming in third twelve percent.

2370
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 4: People love for Dan Hardy. All are fucking haters, man.

2371
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 3: I didn't put Dan Hardy on the pole, Luke.

2372
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I recant?

2373
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: Then all right, let's go to MK moment of the year,

2374
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas has been one of the more tumultuous years

2375
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: in MK history, to say the least. But is there

2376
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: one moment that we've delivered, that we've been a part of,

2377
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: that's happened to us that stands out the most to you?

2378
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, just continue I literally wrote this continuing

2379
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 4: to exist. I don't know if folks understand how perilous

2380
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 4: have got this year. It got close to bad, It

2381
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 4: got close to non existent, I suppose in some ways.

2382
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 4: So you know, this was It was kind of funny

2383
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 4: when I read this question. It's like I was literally

2384
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 4: talking with my wife about I was like, I don't

2385
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 4: know how to answer the question because it's like, Hey,

2386
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 4: what was your favorite moment in surviving the tornado that

2387
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 4: destroyed your house? It's like, yeah, the part where I

2388
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 4: lived through it. That's the part that's my favorite part

2389
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 4: of the part where we didn't die.

2390
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to bury the trauma and turn, you know,

2391
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: and and get back in line the best I can.

2392
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, there was a lot of trauma, but we

2393
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: got through it.

2394
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 4: So I'm not but I literally mean that, like the

2395
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 4: fact that we're okay, I could kind of you know,

2396
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 4: like this whole break, I've been kind of dusting myself

2397
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 4: off a little bit, and I did that in August

2398
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 4: when I needed a vacation as well, and like all

2399
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff, you know what I mean, Like this

2400
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 4: was this was a strange, strange year. And the fact

2401
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 4: that we actually made it through to the other side

2402
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 4: and now have some you know, I want to say, hope.

2403
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 4: I think it's maybe the best way to put it

2404
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 4: for the present moment, but hope for some other possibilities

2405
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 4: is a fucking blessing. Like, yes, we got we got

2406
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 4: wrecked by a tornado, but you know, if you live

2407
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 4: through that and you can rebuild from that, that is

2408
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 4: a blessing. There are ways it could always, always, always,

2409
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 4: always be much much worse than you you know, you

2410
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 4: ever perceive it. And this was a tough one. But

2411
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 4: I do feel like we made it the I do

2412
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 4: feel like the worst of a lot of it anyway,

2413
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 4: is over.

2414
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 2: Not all.

2415
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: I agree we got through a tough, very tough storm,

2416
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 1: and I don't discount that. But to me, the show,

2417
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: outside of the community that we've built, it's always been

2418
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: about the content. What was our best piece of content

2419
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: this year? I think it was also our m moment

2420
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 1: of the year, and that was Craig Jones in studio

2421
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: ahead of CJI one. He was doing a lot of media,

2422
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: but when you get a chance to get a guy

2423
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 1: that hilarious who also had big news to share and

2424
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: big things to say about MMA, that was just perfection.

2425
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: The back and forths that were being had. I couldn't

2426
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: even keep up with the jokes in real time. That's

2427
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: how good that that guy was armed and ready. What

2428
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: a time, right, I mean, that was what a marvelous

2429
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: guest booking right there.

2430
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 4: And like I said, he hit me up again. I

2431
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 4: think he wants to come back. He was kind of

2432
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 4: hinting at January. I guess we'll see once I finally

2433
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 4: talked to him. But we can't wait to get him back.

2434
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 4: And I agree that was fun. We need to create

2435
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 4: more fun, Like we need to go off script on

2436
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 4: these Monday shows a little bit more, dude.

2437
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 1: And it's hard that we you know, we're renting a

2438
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 1: studio that's very big.

2439
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 4: It's not our studio in that sense limits what we

2440
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 4: can do. But we can do more than we are.

2441
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: I know that you can get that secured space that's ours.

2442
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: We can change the game. Again. I want to shout

2443
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 1: out though, Hey, we went to the Sphere because of

2444
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: Otel Burbridge of Dead and Company, and we happened to

2445
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: be out there that weekend for a a PBC pay

2446
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: per view we're covering and not just the experience of

2447
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: getting to enjoy the sphere with John Mayer and Company

2448
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 1: and Den and Company, Bob Weir, but the hospitality shown

2449
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 1: us by O'tel the What a time, Look, what a

2450
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:20,759
Speaker 1: time to be alive?

2451
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 4: Right? Otel is the man the man, no question about it.

2452
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: Also, maybe Macy Barber calling you out for that story

2453
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: on air was a great moment. Mike Perry, by the way,

2454
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: had had like two or three appearances and I thought

2455
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: he was great. But I think even in a crazy

2456
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 1: wild year, we still we had some fun moments that

2457
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson had a few bites on camera along out Look,

2458
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 1: what did you point out here as your moment?

2459
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 5: I put Craig Jones coming into studio. That was the

2460
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 5: most fun for me. Anytime we got fighters in the studio.

2461
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 5: That's that's exciting. The fans though, they went fifty five

2462
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 5: percent on Continuing to Exist, Yeah, a thirty percent on

2463
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 5: Craig Jones, ten percent on the Macy Barber interview leading.

2464
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Uh, Luke, you had one.

2465
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 4: I have diarrhea. Anyway, welcome to the fucking show.

2466
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Luke you you wrote down as your number two choice,

2467
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: getting to you know, become more intimate with Luke Nosita.

2468
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 4: I get feedback about this all the time. People love

2469
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 4: what he brings to the show, which is amazing to

2470
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 4: me because he's high and usually pantiless half the time.

2471
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, nevertheless, people seem to have responded quite well.

2472
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 4: I do think he adds a different dynamic to the show.

2473
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think it has made a difference this year.

2474
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 4: So it's not one singular moment, but that that change

2475
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 4: to things is uh has gone well.

2476
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 3: Much appreciate it.

2477
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, he's like, by the way, come come back,

2478
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: come back for a second, Hey, look at me, you're fired.

2479
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 4: Get the fucking.

2480
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he's like Jay Aaron, only we

2481
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 1: want him around all the time.

2482
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 4: He's Jay Aaron only skilled and cool.

2483
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Pennington, James. Uh, great stuff there for

2484
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: our MK over the year. Let's go to our best

2485
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: moment the year in boxing. Look, I don't know if

2486
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: this is the spot for it, but I mentioned that

2487
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 1: this fight was so impactful in April at the Barclay

2488
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 1: Center in Brooklyn, when Ryan Garcia went in there against

2489
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 1: unbeaten Devin Haney following a crazy grudge match build, following

2490
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: inconceivable soap opera drama caused by purposely by Ryan Garcia,

2491
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 1: not just fight week, the whole three months, Like, let's

2492
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: not forget. I wrote a column, as did a lot

2493
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 1: of people in this industry, that like, this fight probably

2494
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't be happening, that Garcia fooled us. He did the

2495
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 1: beer on the scale obviously to some degree. It seemed

2496
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: like he was off kilter and had a year after

2497
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: that with the suspension from the drug use. In this

2498
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: fight that he had many highs and lows. So why

2499
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: am I saying this is the best moment of the

2500
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: year because this sport is crazy and it breeds moments

2501
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 1: like this, and it deserves moments like this. And even

2502
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 1: though there was a lot of this that was awful,

2503
01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: it had a wild, entertaining ending that showed look up

2504
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: boxing Ryan Garcia. I think if you want to point

2505
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 1: to positives, he's making it become not only normal, but

2506
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: the goal to get huge fights and get him before you.

2507
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: He might even be ready. Just chase greatness. He's kind

2508
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: of setting that standard eat through the lens of some

2509
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: of the weirdest behavior that I think has been really

2510
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: bad for the sport, but that's the sport is always

2511
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: riding this wave of being the worst and the most

2512
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: entertaining and the most compelling at all times. That was

2513
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: a compelling night. We deserve it as the sport as

2514
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: we are. Yes, we had great moments in riad season

2515
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: and the grandir of Fury and Usic and better Viev

2516
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and Bevoll give me Garcia versus Hany though, and the

2517
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 1: nuts craziness surrounding that. It made me uncomfortable. But like

2518
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: any great film that's supposed to take you on that

2519
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: ride as part of the deal. That's what we sign

2520
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: up for here. Inside the box, Luke. So that's it,

2521
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: That's what I got for you.

2522
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want a bit of a different way to

2523
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 4: look at this best moment. It has hard me to say

2524
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 4: what the precise moment is, how you want to do it,

2525
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 4: But I think the best thing that I saw for it.

2526
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 4: The fight itself sucked and underdelivered, and the event itself

2527
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 4: doesn't deserve awards as a boxing event, but the fact

2528
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 4: that they were able with Paul Tyson to pull in

2529
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 4: the audience they were on Netflix, to me, I think

2530
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 4: bodes well for their future in combat sports. So I

2531
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 4: don't know what that would be and under what terms,

2532
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 4: and like there's a lot that just remains you know,

2533
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 4: unknown here BC, But that was an overwhelming business success, yes,

2534
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 4: that I think could portend a lot of extra combat

2535
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 4: sports on their Whether or not.

2536
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: You believe the rematch of Taylor and Serranto is you know,

2537
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: firmly in the Fight of the Year discussion at number one,

2538
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: or you think it should not be there. It like

2539
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 1: if the night ended right there with that audience, that pressure,

2540
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: that everything, like that was a pretty damn great moment,

2541
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, like they like that's crazy. The totality of

2542
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 1: the event. How many people it woke up to the

2543
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 1: sport even with that absolutely shame full main event. Wow,

2544
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: it didn't get a vote for me, but I understand it.

2545
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: I voted for crazier things. My number two is John

2546
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: Fury had betting a member of ooh sixteen, because it's

2547
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: not like that fight needed that, but you're gonna add

2548
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: some John Fury on top of that. And then how

2549
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 1: about the Sandy Ryan MICHAELA. Mayer back and forth.

2550
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 4: That was weird.

2551
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: Sandy Ryan getting covered in paint outside the hotel, Like

2552
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: I never imagined a real life soap opera storyline infiltrating

2553
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 1: boxing like that. It was very compelling and the fight,

2554
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: by the way, probably deserves a toss for Fight of

2555
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: the Year contendership because it was thrilling. I mean that

2556
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: was great stuff.

2557
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, you could do that as well. I mean this,

2558
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 4: that's a little bit weird though. This person got like

2559
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 4: attacked and then she was like she got nude for

2560
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 4: a box.

2561
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: It was weird. Lokah, Like, it was really weird.

2562
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 4: I went, h it didn't matter in the end about

2563
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 4: changing anything, but I just thought it was actually like

2564
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 4: a nice gesture on the part of Turkey I'll give

2565
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 4: them a little bit of credit making that pay per view

2566
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 4: for better be bi of all twenty bucks or no,

2567
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 4: not even that one, sorry, it was the other one,

2568
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 4: subsequent one, even the one this last week was forty dollars. Right,

2569
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't hardly anything at all, So you could just

2570
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 4: say Turkey reducing the price of pay per views. It's

2571
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 4: not going to last because it doesn't work and in

2572
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 4: the way when the star's structuring it. But it's a

2573
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 4: nice change of pace for as long as it lasts,

2574
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 4: and I'll take.

2575
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 1: It absolutely right there along, I look quickly, what do

2576
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 1: you have on this?

2577
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 3: I had Usik becoming undisputed heavyweight champ in.

2578
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 4: The first that was that was all my list as well.

2579
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I'm not against that at all.

2580
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 5: The fans chose that sixty seven percent had Ryan Garcia

2581
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 5: over Devin Haney seven percent like the Netflix boxing debut.

2582
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, let's go to MMA. And how are

2583
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: we not picking Holloway gae chee UFC three hundred enough.

2584
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 4: Set, I mean enough set by I mean it just

2585
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 4: is the moment by far, nothing else comes close. Why

2586
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: don't we just.

2587
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: Show your reaction in real time to it? Why don't

2588
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: we just do that.

2589
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see, oh shit, rolling thunder from Justin Gaiezee

2590
01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 4: right in the middle.

2591
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:16,320
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

2592
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 6: Oh set, Oh my fucking god, wait, fucking.

2593
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Holy that's at all.

2594
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,560
Speaker 4: That's all I mean, i't know what comes close to that.

2595
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: No, I mean Perez tweaking after the submission, Fiona, I don't.

2596
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 4: Know what this one like when poet.

2597
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: Celebration from prayer and credit was an interesting.

2598
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 4: One because that one ended up getting meaned, So that

2599
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 4: was was pretty good.

2600
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I thought that the post fight interview after the wind

2601
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 1: with the family connection emotion, I'm definitely in on that.

2602
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I thought that was long Island. Luke's mentioned as well

2603
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: that in Ghanu moment, what do the fans believe this time?

2604
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 3: Luke, you guys were too quick with this one.

2605
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 1: I think, all right, let's keep it going, let's close strongly.

2606
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 4: It's definitely max.

2607
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, okay, worst moment of the year

2608
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:10,839
Speaker 1: it was the Mike Tyson backward shot Luke in boxing,

2609
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 1: all right, it was I could and you can maybe

2610
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 1: just group that with the fight because my number two

2611
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 1: was the main event. That was the second worst thing,

2612
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: but it's also one of the better things to happen

2613
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: to the sport that's boxing. Okay, what do you have?

2614
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 4: So I have Ryd and Garcia during fight week, not

2615
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 4: the event overall, because there were other parts to it

2616
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 4: that were less troublesome, but like the fact that you know,

2617
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just just like insanely self abusive

2618
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 4: behavior and it didn't cost him in the fight. In

2619
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 4: this in the traditional sense, we do'n't understand it where

2620
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna go in there and get

2621
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 4: whooped in that obviously is not what happened at all,

2622
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 4: but like just how troubling it was in terms of

2623
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 4: what he was showing you and what he was willing

2624
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 4: to do. I think a lot of people were like, oh,

2625
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 4: it's not gonna matter because he got away with it,

2626
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, if he doesn't fix what he's doing,

2627
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 4: it's gonna matter. But you know, we'll see what he

2628
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 4: Let's see what the year breaks. Let's see what the

2629
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 4: year breaks.

2630
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 1: The only other vote I had was Turkey getting inducted

2631
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: into the Nevada Boxing Hall of Fame on events in California.

2632
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 1: Soil that was weird, Long Island, Luke, You got anything, Dad.

2633
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had the said Francis and Ganu lost to

2634
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 5: Anthony Joshua.

2635
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 4: That was a pretty It was very That was bad.

2636
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 4: That was a bad one.

2637
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the worst moment in MMA.

2638
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it it was. It was definitely

2639
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 1: pfl's handling of their own PR. But I think it

2640
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: was the Don Davis moment in the town hall with

2641
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 1: Mike Heck of MMA fighting, where he said that he

2642
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 1: not only doesn't have a favorite MM fight, he doesn't

2643
02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: watch it outside of work, and just obviously like it

2644
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: may not even been fair the way it's being quoted

2645
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: and framed, but like that's the worst result of what

2646
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: that interview could have produced for them from a PR standpoint.

2647
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: So that's that's my moment.

2648
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, I'm going to say the civil trial

2649
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 4: for Connor McGregor again'll he's probably going to appeal. We'll

2650
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 4: see what happens there. It's not really directly related to

2651
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 4: the sport. In fact, some people think it makes him

2652
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 4: go further away from the sport. I think another interpretations

2653
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 4: it brings him back closer. We shall have to see.

2654
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 4: But just for a guy who had the world in

2655
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 4: his palm and then through what appears to be anyway,

2656
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 4: we don't you know, one's opinion or otherwise what appears

2657
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 4: to be, you know, a series of decisions over the

2658
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 4: course of his the last well since Mayweather McGregor that

2659
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 4: have just undermined any ability to stay on the straight

2660
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 4: and narrow. You know. I don't know if that's like

2661
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 4: the final point in the story. Probably not, but it

2662
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 4: does seem like a turning point, Yeah, for a different

2663
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 4: direction that you know, Yeah, there you go.

2664
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: I'll also throw a vote for Chris Widman's repeated following

2665
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: of Bruno Silva accusing Poeton of witchcraft the Nina drama.

2666
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,800
Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall interview and yeah, that's all the worst things.

2667
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 4: How about cop versus mokayah, like trying to kill each

2668
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 4: other before the fight and then basically having two and

2669
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 4: a half rounds of a bad fight.

2670
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 1: That was bad Long Island.

2671
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 5: I went a little personal here. Three of my favorite

2672
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 5: fighters all got brutally finished. Alexander Bolkanowski, Max Holloway, and

2673
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:13,800
Speaker 5: Robert Whitaker.

2674
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 4: All just yeah, you had some heroes go down man.

2675
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And thirty eight percent of the chat agrees with that,

2676
02:04:19,240 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 5: But the winning thing forty six percent to the McGregor trial.

2677
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, good choice, right there.

2678
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 1: All right, Fighter of the Year. This is the biggest

2679
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 1: individual award we can give out, and in the sport

2680
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 1: of boxing, it's Usick, and it's Usick with a bullet

2681
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 1: number one pound for pound, was the undisputed heavyweight champion.

2682
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:37,320
Speaker 1: Now his two wins over Tyson Fury enough said, that's

2683
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,840
Speaker 1: the king and a year that of a few guys

2684
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: that I think had great years, but nothing bigger than that.

2685
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 4: Usick the face of boxing in twenty twenty four. Yeah,

2686
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe if Crawford had gotten the Canelo fight,

2687
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 4: we'd have a different conversation. Maybe if Canel would fought

2688
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 4: benavidezn't beating him, we'd have a different conversation. But this

2689
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 4: was the year of Usik, no question about it. He

2690
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 4: did the most impressive things this year and any year.

2691
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 4: As we just mentioned Bam Rodriguez, who's also on my list,

2692
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 4: did some amazing things, no question about it. But this

2693
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 4: was the year of Usik. You could throw Annoy in

2694
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,600
Speaker 4: a way for sort of staying relevant and on top,

2695
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 4: but it was.

2696
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw my second vote to Arthur Betterbiev. Don't

2697
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 1: forget he knocked out Calm Smith and then had that

2698
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 1: win over Bevo and score for him. But that's a

2699
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: monster year junto Nakatani, the bantam white star from Good

2700
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: Ye Ye three wins by knockout. He fought a guy

2701
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 1: that was seventy six and oh and gave him his

2702
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: first or seventy five and won something like that, knocked

2703
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:33,120
Speaker 1: him out. I mean he was on fire. Yeah, that's it.

2704
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: I think so long Island Lucas gonna throw his vote

2705
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 1: to Usik, which we agree with. The big debate is

2706
02:05:37,720 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 1: obviously MMA, but we've had this debate really for the

2707
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 1: last six months. Publicly it's either Poton or Toporia. I'm

2708
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,840
Speaker 1: going to go Elia. The quality of those two both

2709
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: for rank pound for pound when they fought him, meaning

2710
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: Volk and Max and everything, with the star power to

2711
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 1: the way he carries himself, it's going to be really

2712
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: hard to beat. The year Poton had in the three

2713
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,840
Speaker 1: knockout title defenses in one hundred seventy five days, a

2714
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 1: new record, but knockouts of Volkanovsky and match Holloway at

2715
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: the times that they that he fought both, even with

2716
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 1: Vulc coming off the loss against Mahchev come on. It's Ilia.

2717
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: It is it is, and I'm not mad if anyone

2718
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 1: gives it to Alex, but it is Ilia. I'm not

2719
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: torn on this, you know.

2720
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 4: I think, as I said before, not to beat a

2721
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 4: dead horse, but to very quickly say Poeton was more

2722
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 4: important for the UFC in twenty twenty four. About that,

2723
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 4: there is simply no doubt he was. He saved several

2724
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 4: including their biggest card of the year, by accepting a

2725
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 4: willingness and risk that most guys in his position can't

2726
02:06:37,480 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 4: or won't, and certainly even if they do, they're not

2727
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 4: very successful. And he did all of those things, and

2728
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 4: for that he should be commended. Poetson had an unbelievable year,

2729
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 4: but finishing off back to back two all time greats

2730
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 4: who were both ranked pound for pound. I'm sorry, you

2731
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 4: cannot come in on short notice and beat those guys.

2732
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 4: It is not going to fucking happen. You cannot do it.

2733
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 4: It is a much much more difficult thing to fight

2734
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 4: a pound for pound ranked guy to all time greats, yes,

2735
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:06,080
Speaker 4: and the way that he is, than it is to

2736
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,240
Speaker 4: fight a number eight ranked clear Rontry who fought spirited.

2737
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 4: But you know I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you I'm

2738
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 4: not gonna take you down, and I'm gonna bother like

2739
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 4: these are just luxuries that a guy like to pour

2740
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 4: you simply does not have. There. You're never gonna.

2741
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 1: Get a shout out to Poton a legend the man.

2742
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 1: But I think in this conversation she got my third vote.

2743
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 1: Look you through the vote.

2744
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:32,080
Speaker 4: I think I think Protest and Buckley forgetting four wins

2745
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 4: in a year, also in the calendar year, also.

2746
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 1: Deserve long island Luke settle this.

2747
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 5: I just want to say, if you're gonna congratulate four

2748
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 5: wins in a year, Charles energy Johnson also got.

2749
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 4: Him him too. Those are the three that had four

2750
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 4: wins this year.

2751
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 5: I went against you guys, though, I'm taking pooton man

2752
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 5: three title defenses and that short of a span and

2753
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:53,080
Speaker 5: like you were saying, the way he saved those of hard.

2754
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 1: In a broken toe, he was ill before the last one. Yeah,

2755
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: like he's he's.

2756
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 3: Been the bad to give him credit for doing what

2757
02:07:58,800 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 3: he did.

2758
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, did you guys? Can you guys

2759
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 4: still hear me? Yeah, we still got one second. Just

2760
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 4: take me off screen, let me fix my thing, all right.

2761
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: Our final category is MK Donk of the Year and

2762
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: to close after this difficult year? Could we have given

2763
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 1: this to anyone from LANW to lazy bed to tell

2764
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 1: them keep up? But has so many of the valuable

2765
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:24,879
Speaker 1: members who keep us afloat for sure? But Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: also had an idea and I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: wrong on it that it wasn't one this year that

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Speaker 1: artistically stood out or you know backed the MK I

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Speaker 1: mean Christian Degero, he put it on the package for

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Speaker 1: the MK. But it was everyone that stayed with us,

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Speaker 1: stuck with us through our tech issues, through our life issues,

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Speaker 1: and we are still at where we are today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all of you is the twenty twenty four MK Donk

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Speaker 1: of the Year? Is it not? Is it not? Luke Thomas?

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Speaker 1: Are you alive? Do we close on that note? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We probably should close on that note of technical difficulties.

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Speaker 1: There's Luke Nocita.

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Speaker 4: Oh there he is, there, he is, he's muted.

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Speaker 3: Give him us he's muted.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: I forgot to plug in my uh my free.

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Speaker 1: Luke, I set you up. We named everyone the Donk

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Speaker 1: of the Year. We couldn't be more thankful for this.

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Speaker 1: But you know what a what a way to keep it.

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Speaker 4: Shouts to Danger Mouse who came back into the fold.

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Speaker 4: We're glad. Shouts to tell Vinky Papa who always smiths

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Speaker 4: stuff on the DMS for donks, and a bunch of

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Speaker 4: other guys as well. There's so many to think, but

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Speaker 4: as a it would just be wrong. After the year

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Speaker 4: we've had to not say thanks to all the folks

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Speaker 4: who have stuck by us, and even the ones who

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Speaker 4: pushed back at times and hated some stuff, and we're

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Speaker 4: mad and blah blah blah, like if you're if you're

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Speaker 4: still here and you're still with us, you're the Donk

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Speaker 4: of the year and we really appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's it, Luke, we gave it to him.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I'm about to run out. It's over. That

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Speaker 1: was our twenty twenty four. Thank you to Long Island

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Speaker 1: Luke for his great work in joining us. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to the fans for voting for these awards, for staying

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Speaker 1: with us, for keeping us afloat. Luke Thomas, take us

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Speaker 1: out of here. That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's it, all right, So thanks to all of you

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Speaker 4: out there. Thanks to all of the great boxers and

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Speaker 4: MMA fighters and everyone else. Who made the year what

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Speaker 4: it is. Stay tuned for our predictions on Friday show

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Speaker 4: for Brian Campbell, for Long Island Luke and everyone else

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Speaker 4: on staff. Here. My name is LT. We appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: We're out, Happy New Year. We'll see you in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five. Until then, may all of your gains be

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Speaker 4: loyal