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Speaker 3: They say it's the worst call of all time. Not

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Speaker 3: Welcome in. We're not doing this by ourselves. Isaac Loohincron

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Speaker 3: is here, as is our executive producer. Jason Stewart. Hello Jason,

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Speaker 3: Hello Every Monday, Christopher Fetts in place of Iowa Sam Today,

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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, Yes to.

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Speaker 2: Say, is he the first person to ever take off

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Speaker 2: the day for the Redly Quest Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'm sick. I got word that Sam is under the

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Speaker 3: weather air quotes. I'm I'm not using air quotes on

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Speaker 3: maybe he pregamed too hard for this. Iowa relya Quest

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Speaker 3: Bowl which ended up in victory over Vanderbilt Today, as

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Speaker 3: you heard Isaac glowing Kron and the update, a lot

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Speaker 3: game that we're talking about and it spreads to a

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Speaker 3: bigger picture. Just like Cavino and Rich, we love to

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Speaker 3: what we're going to talk about. But we love audience

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Speaker 3: participation because you know, somewhere, at some point in your

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Speaker 3: sporting life, you remembered an awful call that went against

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Speaker 3: your team, and an awful call is one that will

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Speaker 3: stick with you forever. How do I know this because

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Speaker 3: it seems to be one of the only talking points

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Speaker 3: leading up to tonight's game between Miami and Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: and I am looking right now at an article Aeron

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Speaker 3: Torres from the Sporting News from just three days ago.

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Speaker 3: Sure in talking about the National Championship game from the

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Speaker 3: two thousand and two season. It happened in early January

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Speaker 3: of two thousand and three in the Fiesta Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: the title says for the Sporting News was Glenn Sharp's

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Speaker 3: pass interference the Miami defensive back on Ohio State wide

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Speaker 3: receiver and cornerback Chris Gamble. The quote the pass interference

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Speaker 3: call was it the quote worst call of all time? Woo.

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Speaker 3: So when talking about this game tonight, where players who

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Speaker 3: But we're talking about eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old guys.

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Speaker 3: They don't even know anything about this game unless they

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Speaker 3: watched it on a DVD or founded on YouTube. If

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Speaker 3: you need a refresher on how that game didn't end

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Speaker 3: while some thought it did end. This was Keith Jackson

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Speaker 3: Championship night, we're.

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Speaker 4: Repped up there as a white out two.

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Speaker 5: The ball goes into the end zone and that is

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Speaker 1: Now there is a penalty flag throne. Hold on on

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Speaker 4: You gotta get off because there's a penalty flag throne,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's against Miami. And if it's thrown

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Speaker 5: Ten too soon, Brandy, Chris call pass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Glenn Sharp thirty one on Chris Gamble number seven. Oh,

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Speaker 4: that's a tough call there. What about this Sagle bat call?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Dan fouts twenty three years later, it was the

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Speaker 3: It ended up rising to the level of pass interference

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Speaker 3: That is my story and I'm sticking to it and

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Speaker 3: the reason why official Terry Porter made that call. It

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Speaker 3: may have been a late call. It was a call

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Speaker 3: that Miami jumped the gun and thought that they had

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Speaker 3: It is not the worst call of all time Sporting News,

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Speaker 3: and it is not bad call Dan Fouts. Now, as

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Speaker 3: I look at it from that way, it is amazing

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Speaker 3: this play. And that's where we start. Controversial calls in sports,

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Speaker 1: Do I dare read the headline that I just found.

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Speaker 3: Let's read it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So Glenn Sharp, who was the defensive back,

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Speaker 1: Charged with murder. I'm just gonna say it. He was, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The headline from off Tackle Empire in twenty twelve, Glenn Sharp,

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Speaker 2: Glenn Sharp charged with first degree murder and he still

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Speaker 3: See no person that's faring without even thout. Well not

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Speaker 3: so much because fouts and Sporting News feel a certain way.

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Speaker 3: But everybody complains, and Miami complains, and the U complains,

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Speaker 3: and everybody complains about that call. But it's a call.

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Speaker 3: Whether whether you liked it or not, it still is

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Speaker 3: to this point instead of talking about is Ohio State

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Speaker 3: By the way, for the Buckeyes and Hurricanes, it's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So to the game really quick. Can I just say,

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Speaker 2: That the reason that the two programs went in different directions.

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Speaker 2: by Larry Koker. It's really that simple. That is why

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Speaker 2: the two programs went in two different directions. Whatever, So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you one. The stakes were not nearly

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Speaker 2: as high. But I will tell you the most memorable,

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Speaker 2: awful miss call that I can remember. It was the

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Speaker 2: Armando Galarraga play that robbed him of a perfect game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and it stands out because one profet you know, may

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Speaker 2: but it stands out because in the moment you like,

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Speaker 2: you know, pass interference is by definition a fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty judgment play, hm Armando Galiraga. In the moment you

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Speaker 2: knew it was like, oh he the ump just missed that.

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Speaker 2: Jim Joyce, by the way, was the ump. We still

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Speaker 2: know his name fifteen years later. He missed it. There's

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Speaker 2: no replay, there's no way to get it right, there's

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Speaker 2: no flag to throw, there's no challenge this. It was

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Speaker 2: just a perfect game that should have been a perfect game.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't a perfect game. And you knew it in

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: You had to look at ten different replays and maybe

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Speaker 1: the need you know, maybe the foot touched the bait. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it was wrong in the moment, and he knew it

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that moment.

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Speaker 1: Round ball, right side, Cabrera.

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Speaker 8: He's out, He's safe, he is safe.

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Speaker 1: He is safe at first, babe, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Why is he safey?

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Speaker 1: There you go?

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Speaker 3: He that call robbed everybody of something. It robbed like

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Speaker 3: that call right there made me realize that it robbed

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Speaker 3: When you're looking back on your career thirty years later,

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Speaker 3: there when Armando Galarraga threw a perfect game for the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Now you can say I'll never forget when Jim Joyce

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Speaker 3: doesn't have the gravitas of actually having a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: Jason Stewart, remember yesterday, twenty four hours ago, you and

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna reiterate my stance on this. I actually

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Speaker 1: my whole thing was reward the great play. So if

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Speaker 1: there's a if there's like a diving play at shortstop

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Speaker 1: and he makes a throw that's a banger, you need

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Speaker 1: to have the awareness in the situation to reward the

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Speaker 1: great play. Nobody's gonna argue with you if you call

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Speaker 1: him out. This was a thing with Jim Joyce, like,

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Speaker 1: you need to have the awareness of these moment, this situation.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe at that time that a veteran umpire

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Speaker 1: defense for the situation for baseball, And so that's kind

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Speaker 1: of my overall thing, like reward the play, Reward the

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Speaker 3: I love how the Tigers and we look at it

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Speaker 3: as like what a touching moment, But I almost feel

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Speaker 3: lineup card the next day, you know. And Joyce is

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Speaker 3: crying at home plate and feeling emotional about what went on.

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Speaker 3: But it's also a kind of a yeah, we remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they actually everybody's gonna remember this for that long and

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Speaker 3: they you know, they I don't want to. He apologized

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Speaker 3: for making the call. People try to get the call

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Speaker 3: overturned and turned around. That never happened. Everybody saw the

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Speaker 3: it because of his actions. And to your point, Jason,

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Speaker 3: what is worse Armando Coloraga not having a perfect game

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Speaker 3: because of that call or having a perfect game because

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Speaker 3: the guy was safe? Right? Like what? Like it is

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Speaker 3: one hundred times worse of not having the perfect game.

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Speaker 3: It's not even close. You much rather would have the

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Speaker 1: They're salmon up. You don't want to sam it up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this did the call with Ohio State with official

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Speaker 3: But there are other officials that have made calls that

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Speaker 10: Passes incomplete, no flag for Tommy Lee, Lewis mkil Roby

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Speaker 1: Wasn't there Wasn't there a thing in our talk space here.

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Speaker 3: some of Sean Payton's finer moments, Like there were opportunities

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Speaker 3: just need better officials. That's what we need. We just

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Speaker 3: guys who played the game. We need guys. It's not

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Speaker 3: That is definitely one of the worst calls.

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Speaker 11: Chris Purfett, Yeah, there's a lot of directions I could

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Speaker 11: talking about soccer, about the Maradona hand of God, the

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Speaker 3: Love how he subtly IOWA sammed this up. Did you

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Speaker 3: It was trying to like, so there's somebody that is

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Speaker 11: Okay, I'm going I'm gonna stop it at this one.

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Speaker 11: With this, this was this was Phil Luckett not getting

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Speaker 11: I said tales. That's so spoiler.

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Speaker 1: Its Lions go on to win that game over Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I felt bad until the revenge came where Jerome Bettis

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Speaker 3: remember that Thanksgiving. Jerome bettis looking around with that look

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Speaker 1: Tails?

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Speaker 2: Yes, first time ever people considered a video replay on

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Speaker 2: coin toss is going forward.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, bad joke, bet.

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Speaker 3: Again, my whole solution. Don't know what my coin toss

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Speaker 3: and don't ask what, flip it up and whatever team

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Speaker 3: It's and then you know what you do. You auction

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Speaker 11: You could even make this part of the schedule announcement day.

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Speaker 11: You have like a full minting that you show off,

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Speaker 3: I think gets very very easy. For the NFL, but

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Speaker 3: let's go to the line first. Who do we got?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 1: No, you know what, let me uh, let's skip that.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you, I'll give you mine. Rameil Robinson nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine National Championship Game college basketball, Michigan against Seaton Hall.

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Speaker 3: Michigan's down by one. Ramel Robinson dribbles up the court,

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Speaker 3: Isaac lohncron Okay, hold on a second, you want to

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Speaker 1: Oh, sure, Michigan's ball. They've got an opportunity here now,

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Speaker 10: A foul against Satan Hall with three seconds.

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Speaker 3: If there was a phantom foul, uh, Brent Musburger, Billy Packers,

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Speaker 3: One of the worst calls in college basketball history.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that goes to what we were saying earlier

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Speaker 1: Just the dudes on the court figured it out. I

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Speaker 3: I think Jason's there with you, like on the Jim

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Speaker 1: Jason, Richard Richard in Seattle? All right, you're there, Richard.

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Speaker 7: Hey, even though I'm the Seahawks, Richard is historic.

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Speaker 3: The fail. Mary, Yes, yes, I agree with you. It's

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Speaker 11: I believe that game like that had to be the

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Speaker 11: the film, Mary, hadn't happened, that lockout would have continued

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it was so bad, and as a

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they're going to actually give them the touchdown

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Speaker 3: because these idiots think that ty goes to the offense

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Speaker 3: even though there wasn't. There wasn't anything close to a tie,

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Speaker 3: but there was a joint possession after the fact, but

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Speaker 3: it was clearly an interception by Green Bay and the

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Speaker 3: replacement refs. By the way that replacement ref went on

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Speaker 3: did radio interviews, may have written a book took full

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Speaker 3: advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: Who do we got, Jason, Josh Fresno, Josh, are you there?

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Speaker 12: Yep, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Controversial calls in sports? What's your nominee?

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Speaker 12: I would say it's not one call. I would say

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Speaker 12: it would have to be a confluence of calls that

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Speaker 12: were in one direction versus the other. That's got to

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Speaker 12: be the Sacramento Kings versus the LA Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, Isaac Longkron is right there with you.

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Speaker 3: The look on his face when you started to say

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Speaker 3: Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 1: I was at that game. I covered that game. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that goes down in history. I remember at the.

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Speaker 9: Time how long it lasted. But I will say this

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Speaker 9: as I recall and I got to confirm it. At

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Speaker 9: the same time. You have the Sacramento Kings free throw

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Speaker 9: shooting in Game seven that was about fifty percent. So

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Speaker 9: that's why that conspiracy theory was as exciting as it is,

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Speaker 9: I think just doesn't hold one well.

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Speaker 3: Also, they probably thought they weren't going to get any calls,

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Speaker 3: so they weren't prepping for their free throws in Game seven,

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Speaker 3: so that's probably why they missed all of that to shit.

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Speaker 1: Here, when did the Robert Ory thing happen? When that

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Speaker 1: was Game four of that series.

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Speaker 3: Here's one thing that I'll say, because it all started

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Speaker 3: out with the Miami Ohio State, whether it be with

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Speaker 3: Jim Joyce, whether it be with hand of God, whether

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Speaker 3: it be with Phil Luckett and his coin toss, those

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Speaker 3: are kind of in dispute. Like the Rameil Robinson play

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Speaker 3: that I brought up, nobody has seen a foul except

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Speaker 3: that official the Miami Ohio State one. Maybe it's just

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Speaker 3: me and the Buckeye fans that feel like there is

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Speaker 3: still that there was past interference, But the Jim Joyce

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Speaker 3: one clear is freaking day. I don't know if the

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Speaker 3: Rams fans would have an argument for what, uh, you

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Speaker 3: know what happened to Tommy Lee Lewis of the Saints,

478
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Speaker 3: who is at Nikkel Robbie Coleman on the on the

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Speaker 3: defensive hits on that play, But those pretty indefensible. I

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Speaker 3: don't know anybody who's like, you know what, that's not

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Speaker 3: past interference, like it was totally past interference.

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Speaker 3: on the heels of tonight's I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: a rematch, Aaron, but I mean.

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Speaker 2: Not you, but society stop calling it happened twenty three

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Speaker 2: years ago. It's they've played Dan, correct me. I think

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Speaker 2: they played a home and home in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yes they did, Yes, yep, it was. It wasn't last year.

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Speaker 2: Old Missing Georgia is a rematch from two months ago.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State played at Miami and I think had twelve

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Speaker 3: yards passing the entire game. It was they also played

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Speaker 3: like prior to that nineteen ninety nine and it was

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Speaker 3: right when the U was about to take off again

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Speaker 3: like during that run, and they crushed them at the

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Speaker 3: Meadowlands in New Jersey. Jason Stewart's here, Isaac Lowncrowt's gonna

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Speaker 3: have an update in the set. Christperfette hanging out Jason.

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Speaker 3: Who do we got on the line in our controversial

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Speaker 3: Calls and sports?

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Speaker 1: Hey? Dan, Yes, I've got three callers on the line, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that are going to inform us of just through the

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Speaker 1: volume of calls, what we missed last last segment. We

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Speaker 1: missed on such a major one that three callers rushed

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Speaker 1: to their phones and called Fox Sports Radio. We have

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Speaker 1: a trip in Vegas. We have Danny in Southern California

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Speaker 1: and Matt in Kansas, each of these to tell us

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Speaker 1: what happened. Okay, So it's a toy.

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Speaker 3: Three.

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Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. That's perfect. I think it sounds perfect. Kay,

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Speaker 1: trip in Vegas? What what did we miss?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 7: Actually we missed the.

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Speaker 3: Okay, stop stop stop stop I'm sorry, Trip, you can't

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Speaker 3: Iowa sammit like it's one of the other you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's also.

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Speaker 2: Three people called in to say the same one, Tucker roll,

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Speaker 2: the general one is that the one.

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Speaker 1: It's fair pretty big one.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't mean to cut Trip off. Trip.

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Speaker 1: Are you still there, Danny?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I got one. Yeah, the NFL, I mean, who

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Speaker 7: knows that Drew blacks Up takes over the next year?

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Speaker 7: There is no Tom Brady and and I'm still sore

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Speaker 7: about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys talking over who's it? It's tripping?

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Speaker 1: Can I take the trip?

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Speaker 3: I'm tripping right now? All right? So Trip, So you're

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Speaker 3: saying tuck rule, are you on the side of it?

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Speaker 7: I got another one? I got a better one.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Hey, all right, okay, So Danny tuck Rull, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right about the blood cell. You're right about the Brady,

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Speaker 3: absolutely the one we missed. What's your other one? Trip?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 7: How about I don't know if y'all said this nineteen ninety,

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Speaker 7: wasn't it? Uh? Colorado got five downs against Missouri?

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Speaker 3: Yes they did, Yes, the fifth Dollard Big Eight Conference. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: five downs. That's great, great call. That is what I

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Speaker 3: that's that was worth it. He could have Iowa Sam

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Speaker 3: did for bringing that one back. There was the rocket

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Speaker 3: Ismael clip against Colorado later on in the college football season,

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Speaker 3: but that was a clip. It was a block in

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Speaker 3: the back. I think that there's this is Aaron. You're

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Speaker 3: not to this point yet, Jason, is I am Isaac

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Speaker 3: maybe getting there soon. When there's a call that I

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Speaker 3: felt like somebody would definitely bring up and no one has,

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Speaker 3: You're like, maybe maybe that was just too long ago.

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Speaker 3: Don Denkinger nineteen eighty five World Series. Oh oh, we

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Speaker 3: we had another call.

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Speaker 1: In fact, James and Tacoma doesn't want to be sammed up.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, James, what did you want to say?

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Speaker 7: That's the wise mentioned in John deak Mister ninety five

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Speaker 7: Roll Stories, Game six, calling George or say the first base.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear the call, Let's hear how it happened.

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Speaker 6: We'll swimmer to the right side. Laurel races over the

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Speaker 6: cover that though doesn't get him. Warrel got to the

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Speaker 6: bank and an arguing in here yours version amongst the

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Speaker 6: other quartet looks like you now, I don't think there's

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Speaker 6: any doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: That was the call. By the way, that was Al

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Speaker 3: Michaels on the cause for for ABC.

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Speaker 1: Av SiGe with Jim Palmer. First of all, Chris, send

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Speaker 1: the send that portion of this segment where we had

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Speaker 1: triple calls about one thing, send it to the Marconi

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Speaker 1: Awards if he could before the end of the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was. I gonna defend myself, okay for

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Speaker 3: the Iowas Sam comment that Jason made, because Jason said,

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Speaker 3: we have three callers, they all have the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So they all had the Tuck rule. That's where it was.

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Speaker 3: That's what that's what we had. So we had three callers,

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Speaker 3: so I thought the third caller had the Tuck rule.

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Speaker 3: So when I mentioned Don Denkinger, I did not realize,

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Speaker 3: so I was not trying to Iowa Sam it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a there. There was a lot to get

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Speaker 1: wrong in that whole thing. But I do want to

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Speaker 1: say about the Don dinkinshre thing because we're talking nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five. Ron Reagan was in office a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I remember it though, really well, and that speaks to

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Speaker 1: how old I am. It was the ninth inning, It

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Speaker 1: was one out in the ninth inning when that when

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Speaker 1: that happened, and the Cardinals had a one run lead

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Speaker 1: in the ninth and if they win, they won the

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Speaker 1: World Series. The Cardinals would have won in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: five if Don Denkinsher makes the right call. There was

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Speaker 1: no replay. In fact, I was surprised that Aaron Torres

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Speaker 1: brought up his example in twenty ten. There wasn't a replay.

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Speaker 1: So Baseball's real slow to this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go to Isaac for an update,

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Speaker 3: but I also want Isaac's thoughts, quick thoughts on this.

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Speaker 3: Do you think because of how eighty six finished with

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Speaker 3: Buckner that eight, that this call in eighty five is

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Speaker 3: complete looked over because we have them in It's it's

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Speaker 3: not a call in the Mets Red Sox, but it

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Speaker 3: is the play. And so a year after what would

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Speaker 3: have been an atrocious call in a travesty that we

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Speaker 3: then instead talk about the Red Sox and the curse

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Speaker 3: and everything. I'm bringing it up because I obviously think

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Speaker 3: that it did that it did.

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Speaker 9: That's a great question. There's a couple of factors that

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Speaker 9: play into it. The first is I suppose that happened

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Speaker 9: in a Game six and not in a game seven

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Speaker 9: as big as it was the next night. Not only

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Speaker 9: did the Royals win Game seven they wanted by a

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Speaker 9: final score of eleven to nothing, So I think that

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Speaker 9: that dissipated that a little bit. But absolutely what happened

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Speaker 9: the following year was so mega iconic because of the

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Speaker 9: whole circumstances of the Mets comeback and the air and

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Speaker 9: the fact that they did have to come from behind

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Speaker 9: again to win the World Series two days later in

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Speaker 9: Game seven. But all that, as dramatic as it was

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Speaker 9: on his own on its own, was magnified by the

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Speaker 9: two major market franchises, the Mets and the Red Sox,

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Speaker 9: one of the legacy franchises in sports, the Red Sox

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Speaker 9: having a chance to bust what was that at that point,

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Speaker 9: a sixty eight year curse. All those factors magnified it

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Speaker 9: to be much bigger than when it happened the year before,

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Speaker 9: when you had a legacy franchise on the Cardinals, but

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Speaker 9: relatively speaking to less major market cities in Kansas City

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Speaker 9: and Saint Louis.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, We've had great college football national championship games,

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Speaker 3: and I still think that that one is remembered for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, whether it be the call, whether it be

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Speaker 3: because it was the you at that time, because it

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Speaker 3: was Miami's winning streak, whatever. But you know some of

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Speaker 3: the Alabama Georgia National championship games, like you know the

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Speaker 3: you know the game winner to Hunter Renfro, Like I

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Speaker 3: think those sometimes get lost in the shuffle a little bit,

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Speaker 3: and this one is still remembered twenty three years later.

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Speaker 3: Byer at Dan Byer on Fox. Jason Stewarts here, as

643
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Speaker 3: is Chris Purfett and Isaac Lohenkron. There's only one of

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Speaker 3: us here that can really give us the rankings that

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Speaker 3: we need. You may have heard about the Associated Press

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Speaker 3: Top twenty five, whether it be in college football, men's

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Speaker 3: and women's basketball. You don't need twenty five All you

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Speaker 3: need is ten, and you don't need the ap you

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Speaker 3: need the at top ten at in Top ten college

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Speaker 3: hoops pull goodbye twenty twenty five. Entering twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Torres, The floor is yours, all right.

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Speaker 2: Always tough because this time the year in balanced schedules.

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Speaker 2: You know, some teams challenge themselves. Some teams don't. So

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Speaker 2: let's start with number ten, b y you Cougar's. I

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Speaker 2: actually think they're closer to like a top five team,

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Speaker 2: but you look at the resume. Win over clems In,

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Speaker 2: lost in their biggest game of the year to Yukon.

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Speaker 2: I think they're better than the tenth best team of

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Speaker 2: the country, but I gotta stick them there number nine.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be mad, they're fans Perdue. They're ranked much.

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Speaker 2: It's not that they're not good, but you look at

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Speaker 2: the resume. Best wins Auburn, best win Alabama doesn't look

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Speaker 2: look as good as it did in real time. Lost

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Speaker 2: to Iowa State at home. Perdue at number nine. Number

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Speaker 2: eight Houston, another team that I think is much better

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Speaker 2: than people really are much better than this ranking. Again,

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Speaker 2: you just look at the overall resume. Not a ton

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Speaker 2: of great wins. Did destroy Arkansas right before the Christmas break.

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Speaker 2: Number seven Michigan State, Michigan State Spartans. I was gonna

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Speaker 2: say Wolverines would have been controversial there credit tom Mezo

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Speaker 2: Man does it like the portal? Does it recruit one

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Speaker 2: and Dones just keeps on grinding out wins. Michigan State

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Speaker 2: at number seven, Number six Gonzagable. It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: You can argue this was their best out of conference

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Speaker 2: run ever. They're currently twelve and one. They've actually already

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Speaker 2: played multiple league games, but a lot of quality wins

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Speaker 2: went to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple wins at the players here.

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Speaker 2: Number five Duke Blue Devils a little bit on the

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Speaker 2: ropes right now, seven point lead against Georgia Tech at

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Speaker 2: home in their ACC opener. They lost their first game

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Speaker 2: of the season right before Christmas break. But Duke at

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Speaker 2: number five, number four. They are also playing right now

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Speaker 2: at halftime. Yukon up fifteen at Xavier. Yukon crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: Only have one loss one at Kansas beat BYU. They

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Speaker 2: haven't had their full compliment of guys until about the

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Speaker 2: last ten days or so. I have Yukon at number four,

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Speaker 2: then at number the top three are the same as

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Speaker 2: the AP. I generally don't like those guys, but they

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Speaker 2: got it right. I have a slightly different order. Iowa

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Speaker 2: stayed at number three. You could argue maybe the best

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Speaker 2: winning college basketball at Macy Arena against Purdue. I actually

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Speaker 2: have Arizona at number two. They are number one in

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Speaker 2: the AP. They probably have the best win against Yukon

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Speaker 2: at Gamble Pavilion, best resume overall, but number one. I

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Speaker 2: gotta go Michigan Wolverines. It's not just about Kyle Whittingham

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Speaker 2: and inn Arbor right now. Maybe because Michigan is destroying

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Speaker 2: every one. I think they have something like six point

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Speaker 3: huge Week eighteen. In the final game of the NFL's

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