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Please players, older, welcome, 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversation. I am your host, Rashwan McDonald. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: For some insuscisable paycheck, Mine is helping people wake up 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: very best life. These are my passions and that's what 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to do for you. When you listen to 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: my show, I want you to stop tripping over small 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: life will present to you. The Money Making Conversation interviews 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: provide relatable information to the listener of our career and 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the arts, and how 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: to live a balanced life. My next guest was born 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: and raised in Detroit, Michigan, and contrary to her family's 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: musical legacy, her first passion is acting, but you can 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: hear her wonderful singing voice or multiple Grammy Award winning 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: projects including The Mary Mary's The Sound and the Green 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and the Grammy Award winning green Leaf Soundtrack. She currently 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: starts in the hit TV series green Leaf and plays 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: charity green Leaf Saturn Le. Please welcome the Mighty Megan Conversation. 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: De Joy Winding, are you okay, So it's beautiful. I'm 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: happy you took time. We know it's winding down. Augusty 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Level is the final day of green Leaf. Before we 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: even get there, just talk about this whole experience, and 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I also want to talk about that. As you say that, 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I want to go back to your single, I won't 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: start breathing because I got to talk about that. It 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: drops on the thirty first. I played it five times 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: this morning. I get up at four o'clock, so I 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: have a little time to just listen to great music. 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: So and we're gonna talk about that, but just talk 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: about the whole green Leaf experience and your character arc 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: over that over this period. Yes, wow, thank you. Green 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Leaf has been a dream, you know, something that you 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: feel like maybe comes once in a lifetime. The way 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: that it happened, I knew it was God. Um. You know. 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Oprah saw me during a workshop in New York and 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: remembered me from that and called I didn't have an agent. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: She said, I'll send your stuff to whoever I need 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: to send it to. I believe that you need to 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: audition for this role. I I seen you in this 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: and you know it's okay that nobody knows who you 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: are right now, I've seen you and I just thought, okay, God. 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: It never in a million years that I okay God, 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: but Oprah you know. But but you know, God uses 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: whoever he decides, and the fact that he used her 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: is just mind blowing to me. And so Greenlee was 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: a dream, a joy. It was. It didn't come in 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the correct order, if you will, what Hollywood things, how 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: you get the roles. You gotta do this first and 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: then you gotta do this. And so it's been an 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: all around incredible experience. I have worked with Keith David 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: and Lynn Whitfield and Oprah Winfrey and Lamon Rutger, just 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: an all star castle so much from the beginning, and 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Um my character who everybody just is. You know, they 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: they love to hate her and they hate to love her. Um, 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: but I think that she's real. And she saw her 75 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: grow up like you saw her Um learned from her mistakes. 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: You saw become a woman. You saw her Um fall 77 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: down and keep getting back up and being strong and 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: being strong strong. She is a fighter and she will 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: not allow anyone, not her parents, that her siblings, no 80 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: one to hold her hostice to her past mistakes. You know, 81 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: this is really amazing. You know, Laman, I know very well. 82 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I've had him on the show Land. I've had on 83 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: the show she Enjoedy Keith, which just recently on the 84 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: show and the show premiered, And but your character has 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: been a compelling character for me. That character were talking 86 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: about this as charity because she's falling down and then 87 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: this then it looks like she's a trader. Then it 88 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: looks like she doesn't understand emotionally, she looked like she's 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: about to find love, and then then she's then it's 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: then that's traded off into a bad situation. And so 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: but you stood your ground with your character, and I 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: just love the way you're being brought back into the family, 93 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: the family, and I like the way the season is 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: allowed to say that everybody has flaws and that's what 95 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: life feels about. And so you can't point a finger 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: like the other thing to say. If you point a finger, 97 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: somebody remember another part of that hand is pointing back 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: at you. And I look at that character, I go, wow, 99 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: So now this is this season here, But it has 100 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: been special because of the fact that you know, we 101 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: thought you was about to meet the man of your 102 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: dreams and he left your charity. He left for the 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: skinny white lady. Whoa oh my god, oh my god. 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: You and you're playing well on to chair every time 105 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: you look at it. Every time you look at it, 106 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: look like to see you got enough meat on her bones? 107 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Every time you look at it. Man, can you go, 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: can you look at the last night without watching you 109 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: when you walked in that office and you go, you 110 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: need to talk to your dad. You need to talk 111 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to your father yourself. Yeah, But you know the thing 112 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: about it is you when when I look at your character, 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: what surprised you the most? When you Okay, you got 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play this role, all right, you you 115 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: were a newbie. You didn't have the resumes that everybody 116 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: else had when you walked up to the set. How 117 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: did you really start feeling comfortable about yourself in the 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: process of developing this character and accepting the responsibilities of 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: being this character Charity? Well, this is what I will say, Um, 120 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: when you do do your work and uh, and you're 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: in Hollywood and you continuously get a lot of nose, 122 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: stay consistent in doing your work because when you do 123 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: get that, yes, the work will be there to to 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: allow you to stand, Paul, and so I got comfortable. Uh, 125 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I went there and send my comfortable because I know 126 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: my gifts, I know what I can do. I know 127 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: the training that I've gone through, I know the hours 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: that I've put in. But when we did the first 129 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: day of shooting Season one, we did that table then, 130 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: and that was my first time with Keith, that was 131 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: my first time with everybody, and Oprah was there, and 132 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: uh we did my close up. I was the second 133 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: person to get a close up and my fourth take, 134 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: I nailed that thing. And when they called cut, Oprah 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: came over to me crying and she said, that's it. 136 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: That was it, that was it, and she said I'm done. 137 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: And when I knew that, she didn't regret, not for 138 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: a moment, the decision she made to champion me, even 139 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: when people said I didn't have it. I was like, Okay, 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. Now let's get in here and let's work, 141 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: let's grow, let's learn. I'm There's no way I'm not 142 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna grow when I'm sitting next to someone like Keith 143 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: David and Lynn with Field. But at that point I 144 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: was ready to not just do my work, but to 145 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: learn and to keep growing um. That's that's when I 146 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: got comfortable and then learning all of the sides of charity. 147 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: Charity is so multifact of it, and she's so many things, 148 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: and she's she's a single mom, she's been through so 149 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: much and she's just real. She's really real and relatable. 150 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Were very relatable, and I want to talk about because 151 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to this because I'm not through 152 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: with anybody listening. I'm not through a greedly. But when 153 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you have a last name named Winy's okay, you just 154 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: remember that's w I n a n okay. That is 155 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: a legacy of music because I know BB and I 156 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: know CC the show, and so you gotta be able 157 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: to sing even you can't say. You gotta make up 158 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: some notes like you can sing, find an instrument, some drums. 159 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: So something got the music related when you got wine 160 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: last night. You have this beautiful song. You know the 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: video dropped in June because I was watching it last night, 162 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: and the single drops Friday, July thirty. First. It's called 163 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I Won't Stop Breathing, and it's dedicated to the victims 164 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: of racial violence, including George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, Trayvon Martin 165 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: um on Aubrey. I'm down in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm very 166 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: familiar with armand Aubrey situations on the news on the 167 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: data base, Brother Taylor out of Louisville, h Treyvon Martin 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: out of Florida. And of course George floyd death, unfortunate death, 169 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: has inspired all these incredible changes that we're about. But 170 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: I won't stop breathing at the I just want to 171 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: quote something at the very front, so James Baldwin quote 172 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: that you have at the very front of the video. 173 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: To be a Negro in this country and to be 174 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: relatively conscious is to be enraged almost all the time. 175 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: That's an amazing statement because as a black man, uh 176 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: because because I remember when the when the when the 177 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: riots broke out, that a lot of white friends called 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: me asking me how how was I Was I all right? 179 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: And I explained to him that how you see as 180 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: me all the time? That let me. I'm happy, but 181 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: but I am not happy when the policeman stops me 182 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: because I'm concerned. That's why he's stopping me, because I 183 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen at that stop. And that's 184 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: what that line is said. That black people are constantly 185 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: in a rage and we have to we've learned to 186 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: deal with that, and that's not fair because it affects 187 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: your health. And what was your thought process? I know 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm sharing my thoughts, but an amazing quote by James 189 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Ball wanted to lead off your video, and you close 190 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: it with the amazing president of Barack Obama speaking talk 191 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: about that whole sequence of putting this together. Then we 192 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: talked through the to the through the lines of the 193 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: of the song. Because I'm a lyricist and I love 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: listening to great music. Talk to us. Um, yes, I 195 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: won't stop breathing. It's you know, we went through a 196 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: a hard time and I recognized that the pandemic of 197 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: the coronavirus is still going on. But really all that 198 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: did to me and I just God makes no mistakes. 199 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: This whole world got shut down and everybody had to 200 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: watch what was really happening to black people around this country, 201 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and nobody could turn a blind I nobody could say, well, 202 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see that I was 203 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: doing this. I was traveling where I was no everybody 204 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: but was in the house. They couldn't go nowhere, and 205 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: they were forced to see the tragedy and the plight 206 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: of the black lights. And um, for me, it awakened 207 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: me to a whole new level because someone was murdered 208 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: in broad daylight and this man just did not care 209 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: and and and it hurt me so deeply. And and 210 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I am a woman of faith. I love the Lord. 211 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: This was the first time in my life where I said, Jesus, 212 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: where are you. I can't I can't feel you right now. 213 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: It just hurt and so um. After a couple of 214 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: weeks of just just in my feeling, you know, when 215 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: you're at that place of you ain't got nothing good 216 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: to say that, don't say nothing at all. I didn't 217 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: have anything good sec and um, and then one day 218 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: I got into the shower and it just hit me. 219 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: I said, oh my god. I grabbed my husband. I said, 220 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: that's the song that I just said a demo for. 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Because I decided, if I'm going to do music, it 222 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: needs to be something I love. It needs to be 223 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: something that I can relate to, that that feels consider 224 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: to me or else it won't feel some suder to 225 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: anybody else listening. I don't want to do things just 226 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to do it. And so I had already decided I 227 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: want to do this song. I just didn't know, you know, 228 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: where would be placed or what it was before. And 229 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: I said that demos that I just did the song 230 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: that my brother wrote. That's for right now, that's right now. 231 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I have this idea. I want to do this visual. Um, 232 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: I want this, this and this. I said, we need 233 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: to honor our people are people that are dying every 234 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: day for no reason. And my husband took everything I said. 235 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: I called a bunch of my friends. I was like, 236 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I just need you to make a video and hope 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: sign and they were like, what do what I say? Dude? 238 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I say please please? They held it up for you 239 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: to look. They did. I love them dearly and I 240 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: some of your cash members came through too for yours, Well, 241 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: yes they did. That's my family and um. And so 242 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I told my husband what I wanted to put it 243 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: together and he was like, well, do you want to 244 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: go and like we record the song, like you know, 245 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: in a better way. I said no, I don't care 246 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: about my voice. Like, this is what it is. It's 247 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: about this visual. It's about this moment. It's about these 248 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: people recognizing, um that there is hope for me. This 249 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: song allows you to have heartbreak. It allows you to 250 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: feel the way you feel. It's okay that you are angry, 251 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: but it also lets you know in your anger you 252 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: cannot let go, you cannot stop breathing just because somebody 253 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: else doesn't think that you're worthy or you're worthy thing 254 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: you are and and and to me, the ultimate letting 255 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: them win is to stop breathing. And so we won't 256 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: stop breathing. We don't care what you think. And I 257 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: was like, that's the light. 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With auto dot ai, 297 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you can search the meeting notes, insert images, play back 298 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: the audio, and share them with your friends or coworkers. 299 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: You can capture action items, remember meeting details, and keep 300 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: everyone informed. Auto dot a i works for in person 301 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: or virtual meetings like Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Google meet. 302 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Sign up for free at auto dit ai or download 303 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: the app for free auto dot ai. That's O T 304 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: T E R dot ai. You're a beautiful woman. Thank you, 305 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: and you have a brilliant smile and so indeed, but 306 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: that that's not what's important. In this video. You didn't 307 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: care about makeup, you didn't care, you were just you. 308 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: I saw a raw, uh emotional person and I wanted 309 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: to ask you because that's important question, because you have 310 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: a gift to be able to sing, but when the 311 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: emotion can kind of interfew with that process. How did 312 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: you hold it together? Debor and singing his great song? 313 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: I won't stop breathing? Oh I barely did I U. 314 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: I was crying because we shot, we the stuff of me, 315 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: We shot right in our homes, and I just I 316 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: kept telling my husband like, well, I can't. I need 317 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: a second because thinking about it makes me angry. Thinking 318 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: about it hurts my heart. Thinking about it is like, 319 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: oh God, why are there so many names? And so 320 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: I didn't hold it together. I broke down several times 321 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: and um, but that's that's where we are. And I 322 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: know that that's okay. So there was no holding anything 323 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: to get we don't you know, like this is an 324 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: idea and you know you you you sent around and 325 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: you said, hold up this sign, I won't stop breathing, 326 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: and then send me the video. How did they feel 327 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: when they when the videos started coming into you? How 328 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: how did that feel to you when you saw Oh 329 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: my gosh, it blessed my heart to know that I 330 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: had people that really are my friends, really are there 331 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: for me whatever you need, um, And it was just 332 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: a sign that we are all together. In this, and 333 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: we're all gonna fight this as best we know how. 334 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: We're all gonna offer whatever we have to offer. And 335 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: that's what I tell people. It doesn't matter if you 336 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: are like, well, I'm not a protesting, that's okay. Well 337 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: I can't really donate, that's okay. But there's something you 338 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: can do with your time to serve the movement, to 339 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: serve the cause, to push the needle forward. There is 340 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: something you can do. If you got breast in your body, 341 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: there's something you can do. So find your something. You know, 342 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: when you say that statement about Roshawn, you said, Richard looked. 343 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: It was just the right time. You know, the pandemic 344 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: got people that just sit down, watch TV and then 345 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: create conversation. That's what the lockdown did for us when 346 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: we saw this George Floyd's situation. Because you see how 347 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: white people are reacting to this. You know, Black people, 348 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: we've been angry. We were born angry, Okay, we've been mad. 349 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: We've been dealing with a stomach racism blade racism of 350 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: all types since based on our color, the color of 351 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: our skids. Always tell peop when I walking around, weren't black, man, 352 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm black? You you you can be white and you 353 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: can be different things. And you know, so that's understood. 354 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: What is your thoughts when you see that? To me, 355 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I know that they're they're they're 356 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: put anticipating. I'm happy they're angry because of the fact 357 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: that there can be no change unless they see there's 358 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: a need for change. Absolutely, there can be no change 359 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: unless they see the need. Um. But don't if the 360 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: gloves are off. I'm not going to baby you. I'm not. 361 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: I don't have white friends calling me talking about what 362 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: can I do? Go do some research. Stop talking to 363 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: me about talking. I'm done trying to hold your hands 364 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: through this. No, you need to hold my hand and 365 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: having my back. You go do the work and you 366 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: figure out a way that you can help, and you 367 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: can lend that that privilege that you have been born 368 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: with to the cause they figure out a way. That's 369 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: Mr Trum Michigan talking right there, Mr Trump talker, right there. Girl, 370 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Come on, there's nothing wrong with that. And that's why 371 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: you know and and and and he's seeing this. You know, 372 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I brought you on the show to talk about green Leaf, 373 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: and then they told me about this video and this 374 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: song that was dry up in this Friday July through 375 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: the first I'm gonna tell you to tell you people 376 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: to send me banners. So I got almost a million 377 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: social media followers that have fan clubs and all this 378 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: NAT present of my followers are female, and so I 379 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: want to drop it on Friday. He's dropping on Friday. 380 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: I wish Sean mcdonne wants to drop in on his 381 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: social media on Friday two. That's that's my blessing. That's 382 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: the blessing of this relationship, in this brand that I 383 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: have because I'm doing this for free, because you know, 384 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: God has given me a gift and Elaine. Now, Elaine 385 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: to talk to people the way I want to talk 386 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: and ensure them that I am there for you. Now, 387 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: with that being said, you close the video with a 388 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: message from former President Barack Obama. Tell us about that. Well, 389 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the light. I think that that is um. 390 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: You know, once we get past that sort of hurting 391 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: place and that rage, um, we we end on the 392 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: fact that we recognize that there is evil in this world, 393 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: but we can overcome that we can. And he represents 394 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: so much to us, not only his his wisdom, but 395 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he was our first slex president. The 396 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: fact that he's been the fact that he's done that, 397 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: the fact that people like John Lewis were ave gotten 398 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: so they were able to see that comes to fruition 399 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: that we we've come away. We've got a ways to go. 400 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: But my God, we had President Barack Obama, and to me, 401 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: he represents hope. Girl. I invited the right come on, 402 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: please please because you know, because because that whold John 403 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Lewis thing, you know, it's it's it's when I see 404 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: years old, when he was seventeen years old, he met 405 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Rosa Parks, when he was eighteen years old, he met 406 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Dr mart Luther King, twenty years old, he had the 407 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: courage to walk over a bridge he's not a big 408 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: man now and walk into that. I don't know emotionally 409 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: how fast my heart would have been beaten. I don't 410 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: know if I'd been that that and that close to 411 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: the front, Okay, But to see that moment and to 412 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: see him get to walk along in d C and 413 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: that black lives matter, all that they've created, it's a 414 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: testament that God allowed him to see that experience that 415 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: be a part of that because he he was at 416 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: the last stage, because he was really for Ail. You 417 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: can see physically he had lost a lot of weight, 418 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: but he made that trip like he made all those 419 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: trips for us. And now your song is another song 420 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: is making a trip. It's part of the bigger perspective. 421 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: We don't have individual leaders, but Debora, you are a leader. 422 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: You are a person who has woke up one day 423 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: and say, look, it's not about fame. It's about how 424 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: I feel. And social media allows me to be able 425 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: to communicate my voice in a positive manner and remind 426 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: people it's not about you being my fan. It's about 427 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: we can all make a difference. And this song about 428 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: it's about you. I don't want you to make that difference. 429 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: And I want to say thank you for that part. 430 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Thank you on that part. Now let's get back to 431 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: Green Leave before we wrap up here, because it's two 432 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: episodes left. I would say a little little little assessment 433 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: of me about Green Leap, strong female characters. And I'm 434 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: talking to Pastor because she wants to be a pastor. 435 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: You know it, go now, Pastor Charity Green That's what 436 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: she wants to be. Not everybody need to know that 437 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: she is fighting to be seen for who she is 438 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: despite anyone else's thought or feeling is about her. That 439 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: who that I felt that character is. And then you 440 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: have other dynamic characters who play a different role like 441 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Rochelle and Tyra about the house. And so when I 442 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: look at it, because when I had land on the show, 443 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: I said, you know, rarely do you see shows like this, 444 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: whether we have male characters, but this show is really 445 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: about females and their perspective and their role that they 446 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: play in the dominance that they have in our world today. 447 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: And that that really that really drove home to me 448 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: the journey did your care because you know, you have to, 449 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: like I had to pull your spirit up and be 450 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: able to deal with, you know, the male female relationships. 451 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: There's the sister brother relationship, but also the relationship and 452 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: have this character becoming what it is today because I 453 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: love the character I've always I always enjoyed because it's real. 454 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: But also I have mistakes in my life and so 455 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: and I have to deal with it. And so you 456 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: had to deal with it in a famous family we 457 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: talked about the show now, because you you deal with 458 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: in the real life too, because in your name and 459 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: so so that's why when I when I see that 460 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: open looked at you. She You know, this was a 461 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: very relatable story from the standpoint of you know, it's gospel. Okay, 462 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: you're famous. Okay, we're gonna have you over the choir. 463 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: You can sing. So so this character has been brilliantly 464 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: designed for you. It's not the it's not you know 465 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: you say. It's a wonderful blessing and opportunity your life. 466 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: Believe me when I say this to you, that God 467 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: has some great things that are gonna happen to you 468 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: because you are atalitied girl. You atality you. Thank you. 469 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate that I received it, and you should receive 470 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: this as well. That moment last night when all three 471 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: of you guys would like laughing, I'm talking about grace 472 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: of g if you want to call it that, Jacob 473 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: and y'all, that was that was unique to me because 474 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I think for me in the series, that was the 475 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: that was the journey that you all came to realize 476 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: that mom is flawed, so we can relax. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 477 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: And that's when we were able to really see each 478 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: other for who we are through the beauty in our flaws, 479 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: see the beauty in our differences, and and be good 480 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: with it, be okay with it because lady because Lady 481 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: May was all over poled Jacob poel Jacobs, Well, he 482 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: just thought she was she was a female Jesus, the 483 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: way he was talking to her. He just said, I 484 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: can't understand you. You pull up at the car, what's 485 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: going on? What's going on about? And she make that 486 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: statement and stuff like that. So and now we have 487 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: a different we have a we have two episodes left. 488 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you real anything. Rashwan knows the show, okay, 489 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I know. I know Sophia. You know she didn't put 490 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: the little the little pictures out there online. How the 491 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: mama know about that? I know about the little board, 492 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: the little son. You know, he got HIV. He's dealing 493 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: with that. Looked like his spirits are coming up because 494 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: he's getting g t O car designed with you know, 495 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: with the bishop, and they may lose the house and 496 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: all these good stuff. We find out that Bob is 497 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: a rip off audience, been ripping off black people for 498 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: years with predatory lending. And then Zara, she wants to 499 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: leave New York because of possible divorce between mom and dad. 500 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: And then where do where do you fall? In all 501 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: of this, my dear, as we go to the Finches 502 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: line Augusty level. By the way, Fernando is a thu. 503 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Fernando's a thug, A total for sure. The finish line, 504 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: I think, I think what you find is that the 505 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: family will recognize there you go for the first time 506 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: in all these years, that they are much better to 507 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: get them than they are with their own separate ideas 508 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: and circumstances and desires. They are better together. They come 509 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: back together, they come back to the foundation of who 510 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: they are. They come back to their love for each 511 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: other and their love for God, and and that's the 512 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: way to to move forward. And I think that that 513 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: is the beauty of how um we kind of complete 514 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: this journey. Family understands that family is first right now. 515 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: To my understand, you have another project that's coming up, 516 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: another movie project they're coming up. I do. I'm actually 517 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: here filming now. Come on. I told you told your 518 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: blesses were coming. I told you, I told you you did, 519 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: you did, and I received it. Um, you know, it's 520 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: it's really really amazing. I'm not allowed to talk about it, okay, 521 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: no problem, but super grateful as an amazing cast, amazing director, 522 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: and uh, something very very different from charity, So I'm 523 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: super excited for everyone to check it out. Well, all 524 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I know is that you you know, you can your 525 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: brilliant singer, You can definitely act, you stay in the course, 526 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: you know and UH and believe that the path that 527 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: this show is presented to you has created a fan 528 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: base for you. UH also created a base for you 529 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: to be able to announce how you feel and you 530 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: can put it on video or put it in the song. Again, 531 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: the finale of Green Leaf is augustly level, but more importantly, 532 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: Friday July thirty four, tell us about that song and 533 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: why we should why we should buy it? Do you? 534 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: Friday July First, I Won't Stop Leaving is my new single. 535 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: I think if you feel like you need any piece 536 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: of hope, it is something that you should grab. It 537 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: allow you to feel, it will allow you to hell 538 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: We're More importantly, it allowed me to understand that people 539 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: like you can take the time and fame is interesting 540 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: because of some of the things that we find ourselves 541 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: are being distracted. Like you said, you're about to you 542 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: know you you're doing the press. This is basically a 543 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: press junket right now talking about talking about you talking 544 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: about your upcoming single. Then also you're setting of a 545 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: new movie that you can't talk about. Then you also 546 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: have to have a balanced life that you have to 547 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: deal with, deal with the pandemic, you got to deal 548 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: with being black in America. But for you just say hey, 549 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: you know so, Rashan, I just want to let everybody 550 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: know I care, and I also let everybody know I 551 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: do feel there's the situation that we all live in, 552 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: not just me, because you know, we all have a 553 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: slice of life where we live a little bit better 554 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: than other people, but we all should be treated as 555 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: the same. Man. I just want to thank you for 556 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: coming on the show, Devil and keep and keep living 557 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: the Wine's name. Girl. But I love you, I really 558 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: I love you. I know I called you the last 559 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: minute to be on this show, and the fact you 560 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: showed up let you know you believe in Rashawn because 561 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: I had something to tell you, girl, and I appreciate 562 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: your brother. Thank you for having me safe. Now we 563 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: talk soon and when this movie come out, and when 564 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: you come back on and we talked about this movie, okay, absolutely, 565 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: and tell them to send me the information so I 566 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: can promote you on Friday. That song when it drops. 567 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Okay on my social media, all right, be straight strong, 568 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: talk to you soon, all right. Okay, Hi, this is 569 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. If you want to hear if you want 570 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: to hear any of my Money Making Conversation interviews, please 571 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 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