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Speaker 2: By the way, how about the Green Bay Packers who

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Speaker 2: and thirty two point six million dollars I mean. Mark

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Speaker 2: Murphy was quoted as saying, I'm amazed by the popularity

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Speaker 2: and thirty eight million at the time, and that was

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Speaker 3: That's only, by the way, sixty of the revenue for

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Speaker 2: So and look it. I know, I know that we've

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Speaker 2: asked when's the bubble gonna burst? I just I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know when. I don't know when the league

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know when that happened.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing something and I'm too brainwashed by the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but I just don't see any at any sign of

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm with you. I don't think the bubble

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's that gonna cost this year? Isn't like

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Speaker 2: So did you see the report yesterday there and talks

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Speaker 3: They're gonna gonna do it for two billion or something

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Speaker 2: how are we feeling?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 8: I immediately I immediately thought that was it that Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: It feels like things have continued to take a turn

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's like a that's another one that

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Speaker 8: comes down to precedent and rules and sometimes teams try

436
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Speaker 8: to change the language and their contracts, and they'll you know,

437
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Speaker 8: you got to start somewhere, right, so well.

438
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Speaker 3: So on that point, though, let me ask this, Albert,

439
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Speaker 3: is anyone else doing what they did, because it feels

440
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Speaker 3: like from all the reports on what they're trying to

441
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Speaker 3: put in their contracts that like Schwarz Stuart's a guinea.

442
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 7: Pig, Yeah he is.

443
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Speaker 8: For Yeah, I say that's right, yeah, And and and

444
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 8: I think that that can create like a number of

445
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 8: problems for a player. Obviously, there's a you know, exposure,

446
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 8: you're you're you're creating for yourself and and look like

447
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 8: no one wants to default on guarantees or trigger those things,

448
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 8: you know. But there's also the element of like that's

449
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 8: going to set a tone and precedent.

450
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Speaker 7: For other contract negotiations with other.

451
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Speaker 8: Players, with veteran players, you know. And and and so

452
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Speaker 8: like the Bengals wanting to protect themselves in a certain

453
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Speaker 8: situations with that that that that default language on.

454
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Speaker 7: The guarantees, you know, I think creates this.

455
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Speaker 8: It just creates this situation for player, for for for

456
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Speaker 8: for a rookie where it's you got to look at

457
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Speaker 8: it and say, not only is this not only would

458
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Speaker 8: this be like not a good thing for me to accept.

459
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Speaker 8: It's also going to affect, you know, the way the

460
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Speaker 8: way the Bengals deal with other players. So yeah, it's

461
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Speaker 8: like a big picture thing for a rookie to deal with.

462
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Speaker 8: Now what I have set out the spring, if I

463
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Speaker 8: were him and you know, done it the way he did,

464
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Speaker 8: probably not. You know, I think it makes sense for

465
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Speaker 8: rookies to sign the waiver and and get their work,

466
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Speaker 8: and especially guy who I think came into the league

467
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Speaker 8: with a little bit of a reputation for being raw,

468
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Speaker 8: like Shamar Stewart did.

469
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Speaker 7: You know, but but but he made his.

470
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Speaker 8: Decision there and and you know, obviously now we're at

471
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Speaker 8: a different stage of all of this and uh, and

472
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Speaker 8: we'll see how go.

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Speaker 2: But not to spend so much time on just the Bengals,

474
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Speaker 2: but you know, we've talked about this during the course

475
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Speaker 2: of the week, and you'll get Bengals fans to get

476
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Speaker 2: upset and defend the organization. And will you guys are

477
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Speaker 2: just haters or roll Well, Brady, you're a Cleveland guy,

478
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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. What from people you talk to,

479
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Speaker 2: what is the reputation of the Bengals as an organization

480
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Speaker 2: when it comes to dealings.

481
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Speaker 3: Like this around the league. And let me just add this,

482
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Speaker 3: add this caveat too. Pete Prisco is a staunch defender

483
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Speaker 3: of them, because Duke Toabin's nice to them that.

484
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Speaker 8: You've got to be like, Pet's tan must be electric

485
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Speaker 8: right now.

486
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong.

487
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Speaker 7: It's the middle of the summer. It's gonna be it's

488
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Speaker 7: gotta be freaking electric right now.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great base town.

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Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, so, uh so I would I would say,

491
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Speaker 9: you know, regardless of what Pete might say, the reputations

492
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Speaker 9: and reputation, you know, I think there's always been that

493
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Speaker 9: reputation going back for years and years.

494
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Speaker 8: And years that they're cheap, that they're kind of run

495
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Speaker 8: like a mom and pop shop, and in some ways

496
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Speaker 8: it's earned, you know, like they've had a very small

497
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Speaker 8: scouting department forever, and you know, those guys, to their credit,

498
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Speaker 8: have done a really great job, you know, like and

499
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Speaker 8: you know, I think, you know, on balance, over the

500
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Speaker 8: last twenty five years, they're definitely as far as like

501
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Speaker 8: you know, putting rosters together, the talent that's gone through there,

502
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Speaker 8: they're definitely in the top half of the league in

503
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Speaker 8: that department, despite the fact that, again their personnel group

504
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 8: is so small relative to the rest of the league.

505
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Speaker 8: But that's the type of stuff is kind of, you know,

506
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Speaker 8: gone across the organization in a lot of different ways.

507
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Speaker 8: Like there was that whole thing with it took forever

508
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Speaker 8: for them to get a practice bubble, you know, and

509
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Speaker 8: that is in Ohio, you know what I mean, Like

510
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Speaker 8: it's not in Florida. Like that's just being able to

511
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Speaker 8: like functionally practice in December and January. So it's just

512
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 8: little things like that that add up. And then it's

513
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Speaker 8: very easy to link that stuff to how they deal

514
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Speaker 8: with players, you know, and how they deal with the

515
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 8: player contracts, and so in some.

516
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Speaker 7: Cases it's fair, in other cases it's not.

517
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Speaker 8: I would say, you know, I think Joe Burrow has

518
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Speaker 8: been a kind of force multiplayer when it comes to

519
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Speaker 8: this and trying to change the perception of the organization

520
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 8: and put some pressure on the guys, put some pressure

521
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Speaker 8: on the guys that that that are that that are

522
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Speaker 8: in charge there, you know, And and I think in

523
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Speaker 8: some cases it's worked, you know it really I would

524
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Speaker 8: say with with the receivers it worked, you know, and

525
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 8: even you know, in the skying department. They added three

526
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 8: guys to that to that department, which I think was

527
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 8: only I mean they only have like four or five

528
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 8: full timers until until then.

529
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Speaker 7: You know. So it's worked in certain degrees.

530
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Speaker 8: They've evolved in certain degrees, and the reputation.

531
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Speaker 7: Is what it is. It's fair in some cases, maybe

532
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 7: a little unfair in others.

533
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Speaker 3: Albert, As we fast forward into training camp, what are

534
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Speaker 3: you like most looking for to see or getting like

535
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: an answer to is there anything out there that you're like, like,

536
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: maybe I don't like the Jets, Like what are they

537
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: going to look like? What Justin Field's going to look like?

538
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: It could be the Stealers with Rogers, Like who are

539
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: you most looking forward to going and seeing and going

540
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: to see what they look like heading in the season.

541
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Speaker 8: Yeah, one of them I saw yesterday, which is the Vikings,

542
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 8: Like I think they're so there's so much in this

543
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 8: window with that roster, you know, like that they can

544
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 8: compete for a championship. So you know, what does JJ

545
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 8: McCarthy look like as a trader man?

546
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Speaker 7: Like that?

547
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 8: I think is a fascinating story. And you know he's

548
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 8: he's up to about two twenty now, and I think

549
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 8: he's throwing it really.

550
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Speaker 7: Well, they're encouraged or we'll see where it goes. The

551
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Speaker 7: Chiefs to me are one that, like I think a

552
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Speaker 7: lot of people are, the prisoners are the last thing

553
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Speaker 7: they saw.

554
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Speaker 8: I think they've got a chance to be better than

555
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 8: they've been the last couple of years on offense, you know,

556
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 8: once they get through the Rosie Rights suspension and.

557
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Speaker 1: All of that.

558
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Speaker 8: Like, I think, I think that's got a chance to

559
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Speaker 8: be maybe the best off since they've.

560
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 7: Had in a couple of years. And you know, we'll

561
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 7: see where they have.

562
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 8: The age of Chris Jones and Travis Chalzy affects them

563
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 8: later in the year, you know. And then I think

564
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Speaker 8: the second year quarterbacks like and I mentioned JJ, but

565
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 8: also Michael.

566
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Speaker 7: Pennex in Atlanta, Drake May and New England, Caleb Williams

567
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 7: in Chicago.

568
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Speaker 8: You know, you get the feeling that's got a chance

569
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Speaker 8: to be a really special class. Based on how Jayden

570
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 8: played last year, I think bo Nicks hasn't even gotten

571
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 8: enough credit for how well he played. So you know,

572
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 8: like I I think that group, what the what the

573
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Speaker 8: what the second year quarterbacks look like.

574
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Speaker 7: Going into twenty twenty five is really really interesting too.

575
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Speaker 2: Have you heard Albert Brier joining us here on Fox

576
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Get him on x at Albert Breer. Have

577
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: you heard anything by on the way of our subject

578
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Speaker 2: of Michael Parsons Terry McLaurin. How close, how far apart

579
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: are those deals from getting done?

580
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I don't. I don't think mclu laren and Parsons

581
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 7: are close. I would say I think mclaurin's situation.

582
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Speaker 8: I think that could escalate fast, you know.

583
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: So I.

584
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 8: Don't know that as we stand right now that they're

585
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 8: like on the doorstep of getting something done, But I

586
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 8: think that could get done fast. I feel like the

587
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 8: Parsons deal just based on the Cowboys history, you know,

588
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 8: and what's happened in the last couple of summers. Like

589
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 8: I don't know, I mean like it feels like that

590
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 8: one's going to take a little bit longer.

591
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 7: And I don't know that the.

592
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 8: Public fighting is helping in any way either. So I

593
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 8: would say, like the McLaurin deal, I think the McLaurin

594
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 8: deal gets done, and I don't think that's going to

595
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 8: take all summer. I think the Parsons deal could take

596
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Speaker 8: all summer.

597
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Speaker 3: I'm curious, Albert about Anthony Richardson. It feels like it's

598
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: it's kind of that last year where it's kind of

599
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: all in on him. However, they brought up Daniel Jones

600
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: in the offseason. Shane Stike and Chris Ballard, you kind

601
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: of have new ownership, right, stay within the family for

602
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: the RSA is but there's a different person now who

603
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: isn't directly tied to your your hirings necessarily since that

604
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: was Jim Er saying, God rest the soul, but what

605
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: what's your thoughts of just how they go about managing

606
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: this given the circumstances that Shane Stiken's kind of under

607
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 3: I mean, is this like, hey, maybe Chris balin him

608
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: aren't attached at the hip here and Richardson has to

609
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: get the opportunity to go be the guy or is

610
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Shane stikeen like, look, if he's not the best quarterback,

611
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: I can't afford to lose games with an ownership group

612
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: that's look around saying we haven't you know, been competitive

613
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: within this division for a while. How's that play out?

614
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

615
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 8: Well, I think first of all, I think Anthony richards

616
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 8: In a sort of off scholarship, you know now, like

617
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 8: he he's going to have to go and and and

618
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 8: earn every snappy guts.

619
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Speaker 7: I don't.

620
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to give any advantage to

621
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Speaker 8: to to Richards And based on this draft status in camp,

622
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 8: based only his first two years life, and I if

623
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 8: I had to bet right now, I'd say Daniel Jones

624
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 8: wins that job. And I do think for Chris Baut

625
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 8: and Shane Stikeen it's go time now. I mean this

626
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 8: is year three for Shane Syke, and generally coaches don't

627
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 8: make it through three years and into a fourth year

628
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 8: if they haven't made the playoffs. And Chris Dalen's been

629
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 8: there for a long time, and so you add the

630
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 8: ownership situation on to it. I think anytime there's any

631
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 8: sort of transfer of power, whether it's by a team

632
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 8: being sold or you know, obviously the unfortunate events of

633
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 8: this offseason, something like that happening in Indianapolis, everybody's radar

634
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 8: is always going to be up because there's somebody different,

635
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 8: you know, that's got the finger on the trigger. And

636
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 8: so I'd say this is this is well passed the

637
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 8: point where the Colts can just take the season and

638
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 8: chalk any sort of failure up to the quarterback. Development

639
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 8: and see how it goes with Anthony Richardson just because

640
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 8: they spent the fourth overall take on him two years ago.

641
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 8: I think they have to see what they can be

642
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 8: as a team now with the court that they built

643
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 8: with guys like Michael Pittman and Jonathan Taylor and the

644
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 8: Forrest Buckner.

645
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 7: They have to win now, you know.

646
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 8: And I think you see some of the moves they

647
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 8: made in the off season, you know that I that

648
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 8: I think that that I think would point you to

649
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 8: that with and they bring in some guys in the secondary,

650
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 8: guys that can bind them, and you know, we'll see

651
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 8: where it goes. But I don't think, you know, if

652
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 8: you're the Colts, you can say, yeah, like, let's just

653
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 8: throw Anthony Richardson out there and see how the first

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Speaker 8: six or seven or eight teams go.

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Speaker 2: Albert Before I let you go, we were discussing earlier

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Speaker 2: just where does Ohio State football rank in the state

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Speaker 2: of Ohio when it comes to sports teams professional or not?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, we get, we did get I think

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Speaker 2: confirmation that they are number one by a mile. Can

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Speaker 2: you confirm nor deny that?

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Speaker 7: Brady's better to answer to that?

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Speaker 8: To me, I only spent four years there, he grew

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Speaker 8: up there.

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Speaker 7: I would say, yeah, it's probably the one thing.

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Speaker 8: Although, like I don't know, Brady, like I feel like

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Speaker 8: so I feel like all of Ohio except for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: And I think since Cincinnati kind of has.

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Speaker 8: This weird thing with Ohio State where I like, I

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Speaker 8: don't feel like it's as much Ohio State country as

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Speaker 8: like Cleveland or Tweedo or Akron or anything, you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean. Like Cincinnati feels like there's a strong

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame contingent there. I almost feel like there are

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Speaker 8: Michigan people there too.

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Speaker 7: There.

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Speaker 8: I just feel like Cincinnati is not as much Ohio

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Speaker 8: State country as the rest of the state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably not wrong. I think if there was one,

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Speaker 3: you know, one splot in Ohio that we might be

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Speaker 3: more divided, it may be Cincinnati. I mean, obviously you

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Speaker 3: have the University of Cincinnati. I mean, when they're good,

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Speaker 3: they pull a lot of people from that community who

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Speaker 3: are loyal to them. But I'd say this, I think

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Speaker 3: anyone who's a Cincinnati the University of Cincinnati fan is

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Speaker 3: Ohio State fan. Right, So I would generally say this,

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Speaker 3: you go across the entire state there's not that conflict

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Speaker 3: that you have between Bengals and Browns fans or whoever

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Speaker 3: else is or you know, Reds and Guardians fans. You

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Speaker 3: don't have that. So I think you're right because I do.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a fair amount of prochial schools down

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Speaker 3: there who you know are Notre Dame fans, but you

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Speaker 3: have that in Cleveland too, I guess. I just my

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Speaker 3: experience has been by it, like there's no confusion like

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Speaker 3: most people if even if they are a fan of

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Speaker 3: any of the other teams, like they're still in a

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Speaker 3: high state fan too, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think Columbus is so solid state and

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Speaker 8: its Columbus is because he grew up there. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's like kind of weird from a pro sports perspective,

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Speaker 8: like there are is that like a fair amount of

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Speaker 8: Steelers fans, I feel like in Columbus, you know, like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's some there's some like Pittsburgh transplants and

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Speaker 3: PA transplants, which is part of that. But what's interesting

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Speaker 3: they are getting a UFL team.

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Speaker 7: Hey, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you saw that, but yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean the buck As have some competitions.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, we'll see how that goes for the UFL team.

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Speaker 2: What's next on the training camp tour you mentioned, I've

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Speaker 2: been Bay right.

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Speaker 8: Now, which I was just I just had Good Morning

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Speaker 8: America on the TV here and it looked like I

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Speaker 8: saw something about severe heat.

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Speaker 7: Index morning or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you'll be fine.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I melt in the heat, Brady.

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Speaker 7: I'm not very good with it, like a house cat.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you don't. You don't like the cold,

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Speaker 3: you don't like.

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Speaker 7: I Actually I actually deal with the cold great. I

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Speaker 7: love it.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing is, every time I see you when

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Speaker 3: it's cold outside, you always have a cold.

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Speaker 8: I know, But I deal with it fine, like I like,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, like you saw me, like you saw

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Speaker 8: me at the at that game, like I probably was wearing.

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Speaker 8: I was probably less bundled up.

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Speaker 7: Than anybody there.

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Speaker 3: Oh you mean a Hoils State Michigan. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I can for Ohio State fans, because we've been talking

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Speaker 3: a lot about them today.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Albert Brewer maybe the most. I'm just saying. Every time

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Speaker 3: I've seen him in recent years at in Oust, Michigan lost.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not putting it all on you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, he made that. He made that very

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Speaker 7: clear to me. He made that very clear to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, in your entire section you're sitting, I was like pointing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's Albert Breer. He's the must people people

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Speaker 3: who are turning around looking at Albert and they're like, oh, Albert.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna make Are you gonna make it out

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Speaker 2: to Texas Ohio State.

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Speaker 8: For I haven't decided yet. I think I'm going to,

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Speaker 8: but I haven't decided yet. What do you mean you

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Speaker 8: have it's gonna be It's gonna be a circus out there.

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Speaker 3: Huh oh yeah, it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: everything you hoped for more.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually gonna be in Columbus on Sunday night, so

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Speaker 8: I'm planning on trying to figure that out when I'm there,

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Speaker 8: when I'm between Tangles and Browns camps.

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Speaker 3: So all right, all right, well that naturally makes sense logistically,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh well, Albert, we appreciate it. Enjoy Packers Training Camp,

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Speaker 2: stay cool, stay hydrated, and we'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 8: Thank