1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The Nicki Gleiser Podcast. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Hello, it's me. I'm Nicki Glazer. It's nick Lazer Podcast 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: Special Edition. This is one that I would think, if 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: you're not a swiftye, You're probably not gonna have a 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: good time, or you might. It might be a case 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: study of a swifty if you're interested in how the 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: brain of a swifty works. But like you gotta be 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: on board. I think to listen to this, so I 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: don't want any new listeners. I know I have a 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: lot of new Nikkei Glazer podcast listeners. I don't if 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: you are coming into the show and you're like, what 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: is this? This is a Taylor Swift torture Poets Department 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: gush session is what we've called them. It is me 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: and my friend Nora Hadidi, comedian out of Toronto. Toronto 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: or Toronto. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: You know what. I saw you online with something like 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: this and you got it right. It's Toronto. You'd got 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: it right, Nikki. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: I never know if I'm getting it right. It's one 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: of those words that when I say it, I kind 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: of just guess fifty to fifty. I know which options 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: I have because there is a Toronto. There is a 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: tea at the end that I want to pronounce, and 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: I don't like that you just blow through it. It's 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: not it's a silent tea. It is the way you 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: guys pronounce it, and it bugs me. But I was 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: corrected when I went to Toronto that I'm saying it wrong. 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: But I also get Vegas wrong. Now that's imprinted in 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: my head. Now I don't have to think about it. 30 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: But it used to. I used to say Vegas oh, 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: and people called me out for it. And then I 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: have a new one, which is encapsulate. I now know 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: what to do, but I never knew until last night. 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: I finally was like, Nick, you need to look this up, 35 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: because every time you say encapsulate, you want to say 36 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: in caps shoe late, like I want to put a show, 37 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: and that is not it. That might be the Canadian 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: way you say it because you guys throw you in 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: the cap. Yeah, yeah, it sounds good coming from your 40 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Canadian accent. It sounds right. But yeah, well, we might 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: use that word today because we're going to use a 42 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: bunch of heady words as we make our way through 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: Torture Poets Part three. I had to we haven't done 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: this podcast since before the roast I think before my 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: life changed. 46 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, but I did miss you. 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I want my friend back, to send 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: me back. 49 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: Don't worry, I know I really did. Yeah, Because we 50 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: just send Taylor Swift memes all the time, all day long, 51 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: like four at a time. Sometimes I'll come to like 52 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: eight and I just get like to like, I do 53 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the same thing to my friend Anya, who the besties 54 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: know but and you know too. I do that with 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: Anya where I'll give her like eight to watch and 56 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is overkill, but she does watch them 57 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: all and yours. I go, I've seen a lot of 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: them because I'm getting the same content. But I've come 59 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: across some really interesting things from you, and it's just 60 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: so nice to have someone to send my interesting things. 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: Because here's something I just want to talk about at 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: the top of the show. I am jealous of people 63 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: who have other Swifties in their immediate lives that they 64 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: can be in a car with and sing Taylor Swift 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: to who they can talk about face to face, because 66 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: although I have someone in my life who is as 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: big of a Swifty as me, nor like, we don't 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: hang out enough to like really gush and that's when 69 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: the times you've been on the road with me have 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: been so special because we just talk about Taylor the 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: whole time, and kind of anyone else in the room 72 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: is hostage to this conversation. Get that gets really emotional 73 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: and they laugh themselves. They look at each other and laugh, 74 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: like Anya and Matt will kind of like look at 75 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: each other like all right, they're going. Nikki's like because 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: we talk about her like she's our best friend because 77 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: she is. Yeah, But I just like I saw this. 78 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Did you see the video of the two girls singing. 79 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: I guess they were doing the Bridge to the Smallest 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Man who Ever Lived in their car, which has been 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: my obsession this week. If you want to ask what 82 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: my favorite Taylor Swift Torture Poets song this week is, 83 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: it is the Bridge till the End of the Smallest 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Man who Ever Lived? Not even the first parts I 85 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: just skipped to. I keep replaying the bridge, but anyway, 86 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: they were singing it together and it looked so much fun. 87 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: I want to sing that bridge with someone so fucking 88 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: bad in person, in real time, and I don't have 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: that in my life. There's no one who is going 90 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: to learn that. And I feel like I feel really 91 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: mad about it sometimes because I'm like, I have this 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: thing that I just kind of share with people online 93 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: and obsess over, but like I want someone in person. 94 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: I think I need to like just bring Like I 95 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: don't have room for you on my shows a lot 96 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: of time because I have too much openers, but I 97 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: should just bring you, just like keep me company and 98 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: like be It's such a big part of my personality. 99 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I feel like it's an important thing that I need 100 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: in my life. So can you move to Saint Louis 101 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: and just talk to me about daylor Swift on a 102 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: daily basis and come over and. 103 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Sing absolutely anything that gets me closer to Kansas City 104 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: is It's okay with me? I know. 105 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, can we talk about Travis saying that if 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: he's ever roasted, he wants me to roast him? 107 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: Nikki, I lost it. 108 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe much. I wasn't surprised because I knew him, 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: because I've worked on a show with him already, and 110 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: like we had a good rapport and I knew he 111 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: respected me comedically, so that didn't surprise and I had 112 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: a good set and everyone was saying that, But what 113 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: he did for me is that if he ever does one, 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: no one can like he's already booked me on his roast, 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: like it's gonna happen. I don't have if he Travis 116 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: Kelcey ever does a roast, which I think he's down 117 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: to do based on him saying that I'm already booked, 118 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: like I have a job waiting for me, and I've 119 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: never had that prior to a job even existing. But 120 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: I was just like that to me, there's some cool 121 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: things that celebrities can do for each other or people 122 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: like just anyone can do for each other. And it's 123 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: like saying, if I do this thing, I'm gonna have 124 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: this person on, Like he just gave me a job 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: and invested in me in a way that he doesn't 126 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: even have to follow through on, you know. But it's 127 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: a nod of confidence in my direction. That's just generous. 128 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: And I've gotten so many of those from so many 129 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: people who have microphones in front of their faces. So 130 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: I want to shout out to Travis for just being 131 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: saying my name on his podcast is like a nice 132 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: thing to do in this business, and it was coming 133 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: from a sincere place because he's a sincere guy. By 134 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: the way. I'm sorry. I'm just like on one today, 135 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: but I have so much in my heart and soul 136 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: about Swift, so things keep coming up and I'm like, ooh, 137 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: and I just have to say it before I forget it. 138 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: I saw I maybe I send it to you. I 139 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: don't think I did. Know this was on Reddit, so 140 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: I didn't have an immediate like DM of you. Because 141 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: usually on Instagram, if I see something that's juicy boom, 142 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: it's right away, but Reddit's a little more complicated. I 143 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: should have sent it, though, but I'm glad I get 144 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: to tell you now. When she says, uh, in so 145 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: high school, which we'll get to today, we might be 146 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: all over the map, because uh that's just the way 147 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: this goes. And she says, uh, you already know, babe, 148 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: Like you already know, babes through that whole thing. Did 149 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: you see it? 150 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Yes, do something? 151 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: He said, yeah, I know. It's so cute, so it's 152 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: so fun to find it. And someone found it in 153 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: an article. He did it, I think in Vanity Fair 154 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: and he says you already know. He says you already 155 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: know so many times in it. I didn't read it, 156 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: but that's what I read, like the comments underneath it, 157 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: and people had read it and said he says it 158 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: a lot in the interview, and oh my god, I 159 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: am just like, it's the cutest fucking thing. That song 160 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: is so cute. I'm obsessed and you already know. Babe 161 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: is like, so I can't wait to see a compilation 162 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: that someone puts together of him saying that, like you know, 163 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: in interviews and stuff, and like, I love the the 164 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: things we're finding out about these songs four weeks in. 165 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: I think we are five weeks into this album, and 166 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: that the stuff that's still being uncovered that she's giving us. 167 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: We haven't even gotten into Era's tour Torture Poets department. 168 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I can't even I'm I mean, 169 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: it's it's next level, Like let's jump in. Are you like, 170 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: how are you feeling about it? 171 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: I love it so much. At first, At first, I 172 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: was like, because I'm so used to just watching the 173 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Aras tour, it took me a while to realize that 174 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: this was a new segment. Like I had to wrap 175 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: my mind around it, if that makes sense. Yeah, And 176 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: and for some reason, I was fixated on the clothes, 177 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: like that was initially what I was like, upset. 178 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: Me and I'm sassed. Love the skirt and the dress 179 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: in the bodice, Oh my god, obsessed with it? And 180 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: then I love it. I love it all. I mean, 181 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: she just can't do any wrong to me. I just 182 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: I was. 183 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I was surprised at some of the songs she chose 184 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like she chose these songs before the 185 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: album was out, so she did not know what people 186 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: are going to gravitate to. 187 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: Do you think, yes, I don't know. I mean it's 188 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I she had five weeks, four and a half weeks 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: to get these things choreographed. Like she probably knew three 190 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: days in what the hit songs were, right. 191 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh, from release you're saying, yes. 192 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: From release, she has three days. Now I'm not. I'm 193 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: saying like, this girl knows what like, she knows what 194 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: she's doing, so I wouldn't. Of course, she's probably like 195 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: had clear favorites. But I have thirty one songs to nail. 196 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: This many prior to the album coming out doesn't seem 197 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: likely to me. And it's not because she's not a genius. 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: It's just as like she is. I think she's giving 199 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: the fans what they want, and she waited for our reaction, 200 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: because that's enough time to choreograph this. Even though it 201 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: is so well choreographed, and it is so she is 202 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: so on point, and it is the I think it 203 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: is the Maybe it's because it's newer, but I think 204 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: it's the best era really of the tour. And I've 205 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: seen the tour twelve times have not seen this part, 206 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: so it could be based on the fact that it's 207 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: just new to me. But I love the transition to 208 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: so high School from but Daddy I love him. The 209 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: only thing that I'm looking for that I was disappointed in. 210 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: But actually I think I'm starting to really like it is. 211 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: You know, I we talked about but Daddy, I love him. 212 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: Where she's like, I'm having his baby. No, I'm not 213 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: Boom that part where it goes boom. I want like 214 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: a big moment there, So when she's walking it, she goes, 215 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm having his baby and then she turns around so 216 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm not. And then she turns back around on boom 217 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: and it's good, but it's not. It's not an I 218 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: wanted a really big moment in that, but then I 219 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: actually think then she does sheep. You know, if you've 220 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: seen the transition from but daddy, I love him into 221 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: So High School. It keeps going like I'm having his baby, 222 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: No I'm not. And then she twirls her hair and 223 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: starts getting into So High School and she walks forward 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: and then she walks over to the bleacher and then 225 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: I love how they didn't really see So High School 226 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: coming the crowd at least yeah, because it perfectly transitions. 227 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: She's like I She's like, she just goes, I feel 228 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: So High School and you like hear them on the 229 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: high they know it. They didn't know it from the first, 230 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: like noe. She that was probably so fun for her 231 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: to be like what are they gonna do when they 232 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: first hear it. So that's a fun moment to watch her. 233 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Love stairs on So High School. And you sent me 234 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: I did not the bleachers, the bleachers on bleachers, And 235 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: you sent me this incredible photo of like how the 236 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: moves from So High School are from her at the games. 237 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so at the very end, because I've watched the 238 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: choreography a bunch and I'm like, where are they doing 239 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: this moment where they're all one is pointing, one's going oh, 240 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: the other is like they're all all her dancers are 241 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: doing different movements right, like it kind of like poses 242 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: like pointing towards the field or whatever. And I'm like, 243 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: at what point does this happen? It happens that I 244 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: believe at the end, at the very end, she's like, 245 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: you already know, babe. And then if they all hit it, 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: because during the thing they have a great dance. I'm 247 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: so into Uh, you know how to ball on no air? 248 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: And she does that roll forward? How fun is that? 249 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Like I love her choreography as someone who isn't the 250 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: strongest dancer, like I feel like if I work very, 251 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: very very hard, I could learn some of it. But 252 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: she is an amazing dancer. Like I I am so 253 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: in awe of how far she has come on this 254 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: tour in terms of making these dances her own and 255 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: and and they they are. She has has her own 256 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: style of dance now, like she has been doing dancing 257 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: now for so long. She hasn't been doing it as 258 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: long as she's been playing guitar or writing songs or singing. 259 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: But she is at the point now where she is 260 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: becoming a very good dancer and very like in her body, 261 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: like just comfortable dancing. And she's even made fun of 262 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: herself for being an act or dancer before. And I 263 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: have to say that is fallen away like she is 264 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: crushing these moves. She is so on point. I've been 265 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: trying to learn the bridge to the Smallest Man who 266 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: Ever Lived, which is the song that was coming up 267 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: next for us to dive into. So why don't we 268 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: just do it now? Yes, the Smallest Man who Ever Lived, 269 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: which I did not even realize was possibly a dick joke, 270 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: oh until so late. Well where she goes, uh uh, 271 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: you treat her, you treat her like and also ran 272 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: you didn't measure up in any measure of a man, 273 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: in any measure. I mean, she's at least seeing it there. 274 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, this is actually good for like 275 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: let's say it's about a guy with a micro penis, 276 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: like literal micro. I don't think that's what she's saying. 277 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: But let's say I have a big problem with women 278 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: making fun of men for having small penises, and I 279 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: don't think that's what she's doing here, because I think 280 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: you can be in relationship with a man with a 281 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: small penis and have a more satisfying sexual relationship than 282 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: one with a big dick. I think it's actually more 283 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: likely that you will. But so I don't like small 284 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: penis shaming, but I like this because if this is 285 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: about someone who all a lot of the songs are 286 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: about this person, she was desperately in love with and 287 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: the problem with the relationship was not possibly that he'd 288 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: a small penis. So if if I was a man 289 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: with a small penis and heard this song and was like, 290 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: that's fucked up Taylor's calling him a guy with a 291 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: small dick, I'd be like, but she was madly in 292 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: love with that guy with a small dick, and they 293 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I kind of I 294 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: like when there's mentions of small penises in a way 295 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: that's not disparaging. 296 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Right, You're like, it's part and parcel of you. It's 297 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: not a reason why, but it is. 298 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: It could be. It could be a reason why you 299 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: are the way you are. It could be because men 300 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: are stigmatized so much for small penises by society, which 301 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to like rally against. They feel 302 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: less then, and so they can have personality traits probably 303 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: based on that. But I was like, oh I at first, 304 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think this is about as 305 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: a guy with a small dick. And then I read 306 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: that line and I was like, I think it is 307 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: and the Smallest Man who ever lived is just it's such. 308 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: A great title, it really is. 309 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: It's so it just is so evocative of the kind 310 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: of person she's singing about. 311 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: She's not afraid to go there, you know, like even 312 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: now she does it with such grace, but she's like, 313 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: this is the truth. She's not afraid to cut you up, 314 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: but she's like, dude, I mean, you got what you deserved. 315 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I was inspired by her. 316 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: I think it was so opportune that this came out 317 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: as I was preparing for the roast, because I was like, 318 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: she didn't fucking hold back at all. Yes, Like she 319 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: just told the truth. So if you just do that 320 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: and you can be vicious and adorable at the same time. 321 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: And you were, Nikki, you especially when you would say 322 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: sorry after like that was so endearing. 323 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: It was like so real and j honestly what I 324 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: am most proud of myself about about this roast, And 325 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: I think that is the best choice I made. And 326 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: I didn't even make it as a choice. That was 327 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: not part. I never did that during my sets that 328 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: I was running it that's the only time I ever 329 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: said sorry, because I really did feel sorry, and it 330 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, I'm actually bringing more truth to this 331 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: moment by totally undercutting it, yeah than I would if 332 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: I was just hitting it. So it I was glad 333 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: I made that choice. But I think that that's, you know, 334 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: just as an artist, finding ways fresh ways to be authentic. 335 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Even though I'm like, oh, these roast jokes are real, 336 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying the truth. It's like, what's the real truth? 337 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Though I have to say these people's faces and I 338 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: feel bad about it. Yeah, that's kind of the real truth. 339 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: So thank you for saying that. I saw a clip 340 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: of it, and I didn't realize I did it. I 341 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: mean I knew at the time I was doing it, 342 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you're doing this new thing 343 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: that you never did, but it feels right. But then 344 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: watching a clip, I was like, oh, that's really I 345 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: come across as myself in this more than I said 346 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Like that's real. The real me is 347 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: that person that was like, I hate that I have 348 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: to do this. So that was I was glad I'd 349 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: made that choice, So thank you for saying that. Okay, 350 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: the smallest man who ever lived. I have been trying 351 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: to learn the choreography to the ending where she's marching, 352 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: where you send by someone who won me dead? Do 353 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: you sleep with the guy? And I've learned all of 354 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: the hand movements. I've learned where she gets shot. I 355 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: have learned where she gets shot again. I have learned 356 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: where she her hand, her her feet, her knees touched 357 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: the ground, where her hand then touches the ground. Then 358 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: she comes back up again and she's like, you kicked 359 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: down the stage lights, but you're still performing, and he 360 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: didn't play, And then she falls play inside she hit 361 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: you are what you did? I'll forget you, and she is. 362 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: I love this version because she is all over the 363 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: map vocally, because she like will all of a sudden 364 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: go like like the way she sings it on this 365 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: the album track, I think she stays in that lower 366 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: zone the whole time. But when she goes, and there's 367 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: maybe background vocals that are hitting these notes. But in 368 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: the live one, she goes and you'll confess why you did, 369 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: Like in fifty years, will do this be all declassified 370 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: and you'll confess why you did it? And I'll say 371 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: good reddance, and she like she almost like hits a 372 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: different key on that one, and then but you won't, 373 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: You'll slip through. And then when she gets shot. I mean, 374 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: this performance is my favorite performance since Britney Spears I 375 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: Can't Get No Satisfaction VMAs two thousand and then Lady 376 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: gagas Paparazzi VMAs two thousand and maybe nine or something. 377 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: I want to say, those two are my favorite live 378 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: performances ever. And then in Eras, my favorite is the 379 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: August transition into It's what's it called Illicit Affairs? And 380 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: then also my Tears Ricochet, and if you want to 381 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: know what the common theme to all of these are 382 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: is that she falls on her knees. I love just 383 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: collapsing in song of like it being so emotional that 384 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: you collapse. It's so it's so I've like never loved 385 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 2: something as much as this video. And I keep watching, 386 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: making people watch it, and no one is into it 387 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: as much as I am, and I can't even get 388 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: people to be as into it. I keep going, like 389 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: to find it. I go back to our feed where 390 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: I shared it with you, because as soon as I 391 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: saw it, I was like, finally like a close up 392 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: angle that's the other thing. Can someone get go to 393 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: a concert. I will pay you to go to a 394 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: Taylor Swiths concert with a and hold your phone steady 395 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: and track her in a way like people I film 396 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: her at shows, and I just say I'm very good 397 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: at it. I'm very good at capturing. I should put 398 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: some of my stuff like I've captured some of the 399 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: best close up stuff from fan angles that I've ever 400 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: seen because I watch it all and I need people 401 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: to hold their phones a little bit more steady for 402 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: us when you are in a good position to catch 403 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: her going down that catwalk. And here's another tip. If 404 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: you're going to can I just give some aras tour 405 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: tips please? 406 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: I was just gonna tell I'd make this a real 407 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: even like put it out there. 408 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: Eras tour tips for filming. You pick the screen or 409 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: pick her all right, let's not go back and forth. 410 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: And can I just say, when in doubt, pick the screen. 411 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna go off of her a couple times here 412 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: and there, don't freak out and go back to her 413 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: on the stage. Just get it now. If you are 414 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 2: gonna film her, which I do think you should, if 415 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: you're on the floor seats if you have seats that 416 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: are I would say twenty five rows back or closer. 417 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: Go on, watch her from the film on the floor. 418 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Hold your phone in a way that you're like, okay, 419 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: just steady with both hands, and make sure that you 420 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: put it on a mode actually you don't need both hands, 421 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: but put it on when you tap on it. Make 422 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: sure like you can toggle the darkness and the brightness 423 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: with a little sun. There's a toggle that you can 424 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: go through the whole thing, but I would just put 425 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: it on kind of low after it gets dark because 426 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: she's gonna light up in the middle of it then, 427 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: and just zoom in on her and hold it really steady. 428 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: And if someone's hand comes in front of your camera, 429 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: like just like just leap slowly kind of try to 430 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: find a way out of it. Don't just immediately going, oh, 431 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: where is she, because you're so zoomed in that you're 432 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: not gonna find her very quickly unless you keep it 433 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: on her. So that is just a couple tips, I'm 434 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: sure that. And also find one person, like if I've 435 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: seen Aristore enough that I'm like when I go with people, 436 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: I go, don't worry about filming her, okay, Like I 437 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: got you, I'll film all the parts you need to know. 438 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: Just enjoy the shows your eyes. You're not gonna get 439 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: a better shot than me. You're right next to me, 440 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: and I've done this a bunch of times. I know 441 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: where she is on the stage. I know where to 442 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: get it. So I suggest taking someone like me. That's 443 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: obviously I'm joking, but I would just a. 444 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: Great service to provide people. Are you kidding me? 445 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: I also think like you don't. I would just kind 446 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: of be in the moment and I would capture some moments, 447 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: but try like most of her has been captured from 448 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: all angles and you don't need it. But I would 449 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: study if you have seats where she goes, what part 450 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: of the stage she goes to for each song, and 451 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: when she's gonna get closest to you, and just get 452 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: ready for those moments so you're not constantly on your 453 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: phone when she's like, you know, not near you, and 454 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 2: then you don't panic when she starts walking towards you. 455 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: I would always I would panic, you go like shit, 456 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: she's coming back, and then I miss her even being 457 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: close to me because I'm pulling up my phone. So 458 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: that's something I wish I would have done. But I 459 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: really do need people to shoot better footage of but Daddy, 460 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: I love him, and so high School and the smallest 461 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 2: man who ever left? And I don't even know what 462 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: the fuck is going on for the Torture Poets Department 463 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: choreography because I can't find a decent video of that. 464 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: The bed is tilted, it's moving around, she's flying around, 465 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: one of that hot dancer guys like tilted. I haven't 466 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: really studied that choreography yet, but it's it's so good. 467 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: What have been your favorite highlights of the ttpd eras? 468 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a hard question, Nikki. I love 469 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: so I love it all so much. I love the 470 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: easter egg of how the bed from Tortured Poets is 471 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: kind of similar to the bed that she had and 472 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: you belong with me. 473 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: I saw that that was such a Sometimes I go, 474 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: did she mean that or is that just like the 475 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: same art director, and they like, of course. 476 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: She did, of course she did. And how much. 477 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: Stuff do you think we're missing? I had this. I 478 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: had a new thing. A thing occurred to me the 479 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: other night because I think some stuff she doesn't know 480 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna get. So she hits this over the head 481 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: with it. But she only thinks that because we She 482 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: probably has tried to give us messages that we've missed 483 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: that no one's gotten. And I was thinking, if I 484 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: ever got like, this is a question, I'll post to 485 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: you if you ever got to ask her one question. 486 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: She has to tell you, the absolute tell you, and 487 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: it's a secret you will keep forever and you'll like 488 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: she can trust you with it. What do you want 489 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: to know? 490 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: In the Me music video? Why does this snake have 491 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: its left eye crossed over? And like shut? 492 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: Wait? In the what in the Me music video? Yeah? Wait, 493 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: there's a snake in me? 494 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it turns into a butterfly in the beginning. 495 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, yes, Now I haven't revisited that video 496 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: in a while. 497 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: So that snake's I is visibly the left one is 498 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: visibly like close. 499 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: That's what you want to know? 500 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Sorry? Is that crazy? Yes? 501 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: It's been driving me crazy for years now okay, okay, 502 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: that's good. But don't you want to know something juicier, 503 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: like what happened with you? And whatever? Like that's what 504 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: I want to mine. Mine would have been if we're 505 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: just doing like a swifty like fan level, like we're 506 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: not allowed to know too much. I want to know 507 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: what the fuck question is about? Heally, but I want 508 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: to know where this kiss happened. What did I just 509 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: can't wait to meet her, be friends with her someday 510 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 2: and be like, girl, we got to talk about this 511 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: and like, wait, did you ever find out if he 512 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: knew it was about? 513 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: Like? 514 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: And how fun was it knowing that he? Like, I 515 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: can't wait to just talk to her someday about all 516 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: of this stuff and how fucking great it must feel 517 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: to write about people who have hurt you and know 518 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: they have to hear it. It's so good, and to 519 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: just get your revenge in this way where you're like 520 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: the bell of the ball and everyone's singing this song 521 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: and this guy is gonna be haunted by it. I mean, 522 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: I've seen memes before where it's like girls saying that 523 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: I know my exes every time they hear a Taylor 524 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: Swift song, they're gonna think. 525 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: Of me, of me. 526 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love it too, because that's the 527 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: gift she given us of Like, if you're a big 528 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: enough fan, she's everywhere and they're gonna always have to 529 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: think about us. Yeah. 530 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: I feel like she started that trend really early on 531 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: with like you should Have Said No from Debut and 532 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: Better than Revenge, I feel like is the anthem of 533 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: that of like yes, I have the last word. I 534 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: write these bangers that everyone's going to listen to and 535 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: they're about you and there's nothing you can do about it, 536 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: Like yes, I love that. 537 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: It's so good. I used to write jokes when I 538 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: would about guys and sometimes they would be in the room, 539 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: and it was so fucking satisfying. 540 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 541 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Success, success in getting laughter about something that's mocking them 542 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: and only they know it's them is just so satisfying. 543 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't even I don't like when people know who 544 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I want them to be the only 545 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: one and to know that I'm like that everyone's laughing 546 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: at them. It would be it's a sick thing, but 547 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: it feels so good. Oh God, So the smallest man 548 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: whoever lives? Okay, yeah, it's definitely about who I don't 549 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: ever say it to about You can say those names, 550 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: but I'm not saying names. Jehovah's witness suit. We kind 551 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: of that's painting a picture. Tried to buy some pills 552 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: from a friend of friends of mine. I like the 553 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: fact that she has friends who have friends that are 554 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: drug deal drugs. I mean, this is an edgy Taylor 555 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: Swift we haven't seen before. 556 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: She's being honest. 557 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: She started talking, of course, we all have friends mine 558 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: that that are friends with drug dealers, and I like 559 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: that she is too. That's cool. They just go So 560 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: this is where we think that this guy ghosted her. 561 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: They just ghosted you, now you know what it feels like. 562 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Yes, ghosted her, absolutely. 563 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Yes, he uh that's I want details on that so badly. 564 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I feel like he got on a plane and then 565 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: she just never heard from him. 566 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: Why where do we get the plane thing from that? 567 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: Because I've heard that too. 568 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to like a show or like went 569 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: back to England and then I don't remember where I 570 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: read it, but I just feel like. 571 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's been part of the narrative for me, 572 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: as well as this plain thing. But I guess that's 573 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: like how they would ever meet up is like they 574 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: they it's they don't drive to each other, they just 575 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: plain to each other because that's yeah, they're both on 576 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: the tour. I don't even want you back. I just 577 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: want to know if rusting my sparkling summer was the goal. 578 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and I don't miss what we had, 579 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: but would someone give a message to the smallest man 580 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: whoever left? Okay, so like this is where she's solidly 581 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: being like I don't want to be with you like, 582 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: which you know, I think is an is a point 583 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 2: that needed to be made because it was a little 584 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: unclear before of like this guy just hurt her, because 585 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: there's been times when I've been hurt my guys, and 586 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: I would totally I acted. I'm acting like I'm really mad. 587 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: But there's a there's a little door that's left open, 588 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: and she's always closing big door. 589 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It's like the door is open, 590 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: please come back. 591 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: They have to put their shoe and the kind of 592 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: go like you know, yes. 593 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: Well that's what I like. I mean, I'm sorry if 594 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm skipping ahead. But with I'm going to get you back. 595 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: It's like whether I'm going to kill you or marry you, 596 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you back. 597 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: And it's like, oh my god, I did not know 598 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: that double on Condra, Like what I'm gonna get I'm 599 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: gonna get revenge, Like I'm gonna get you back. I 600 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: did not even think about that. Oh really, idiot. No, 601 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean it's I'm okay with not getting it because 602 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: it's so in your face. This is what I'm talking about. 603 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: Like Taylor sometimes has things are so blatant, and that 604 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: was a question I would want to ask her recently, 605 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: is like, what's the most obvious thing that you're like, 606 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: I can't believe they didn't see it, and like, because 607 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: you know there's something where that is glaring and we're 608 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: all missing it. I know it. 609 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: I saw this video last night that said the video 610 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that has the most Easter eggs. She said, there's like 611 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe hundreds or thousands is look what you made me do? 612 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: And I still, for the life of me, don't know 613 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: what she's talking about. 614 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, some some of these messages are just we'll never 615 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: know because she's never confirmed or denied anything. That's why 616 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: I have to say, thank you, Amy. We think it's 617 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: about you know who what. We have no confirmation and 618 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: I will I will, you know, we can. We only 619 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: can suspect about almost like every we don't have details 620 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: about it. She's never confirmed anyone. Her songs are about anyone, 621 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: so there's always pausible deniability. Even though she did capitalized 622 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: k I am, and it's I'm like yeah, and. 623 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: She used to capitalize in her like old lyrics. Yeah, 624 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: little coded messages for us to know it's. 625 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: About sneaky smallest man. I want to think about any 626 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: other lyrics. I mean, oh god, just I would have 627 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: died for your sins, but instead I just died inside. 628 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh my, I love because it wasn't sexy once it 629 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: wasn't forbidden. Okay, this is an interesting part. And you'll 630 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: confess why you did it, and I'll say good riddance. 631 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: So this is later, fifty years later, it's going to 632 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: be declassified. He'll confess why he did it, and she'll 633 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: say good riddance. That's interesting. She she'll say it then, 634 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: or she'll say it now. Yeah, she'll just go whatever, 635 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: but she says, and I'll say good riddance because it 636 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: wasn't sexy one, it wasn't forbidden. Now, this makes me 637 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: think that she might be someone who thought it wasn't 638 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: sexy once it wasn't forbidden. 639 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh I did not even think of that. 640 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why that makes me think that 641 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: like it because I'll say good riddance, because I mean, 642 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: she's talking about something because because of what she did, 643 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: she'll say good riddance because it wasn't sexy once, it 644 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: wasn't forbidden. So she's admitting that. I think a little 645 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: bit here that she might be part of the problem. 646 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: It's right high on the problem. 647 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: It's me, yes, you're right that like I liked it, Yes, no, 648 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: you're And. 649 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: Then I like that someone called this out in a 650 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: review I saw, which I thought was funny, but I 651 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: think Taylor is in on it. You said normal girls 652 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: were boring, but you were gone by the morning, and 653 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: it's like, does that mean you're boring? Taylor like? Did 654 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: he like? It's It's kind of a funny two sentences 655 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: to put together. I don't think she meant it that way, 656 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: but I also think that she is. She might have 657 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: like she might have been like, we does that mean 658 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: you think I was boring? You kicked out the stage 659 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: lights but you're still performing? I mean that's I think 660 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: there's the footage of him kicking out stage lights possibly. 661 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: Oh is there? I mean, how could I not be? 662 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: I think it's just a guy who's causing a ruckus 663 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: on stage, okay, or you know, you're making things go 664 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: so things are going dark? And you're still You're still performing. 665 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: Way I thought about it was like you kicked off 666 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: the stage lights because her and they were in a 667 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: relationship that was on a world stage, so you didn't 668 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: want the attention. But you're still in the public eye. 669 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: You're still performing, right, you're still dating publicly? 670 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: Oh interesting and in place in sight your head, But 671 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: you are. But you are what you did is such 672 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: a good line, so simple, but so fucking good. 673 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, all these excuses I made for 674 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: guys I've dated, and it's like, no, you are what 675 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: you did. They are the decisions that they've made and 676 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: the things that they've done. It's not separate. 677 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: And I'll forget you, but I'll never forgive. So, I mean, 678 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: I feel like we've heard. I'm like, how have we 679 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: not heard? All the way she works language in new 680 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: ways that maybe I'm naive to think this is the 681 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: most amazing poetry I've ever read, but it to me, 682 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: it truly is. And she is just doing stuff with 683 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: words that I just like in phrases. I love how 684 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: she just takes an old, worn phrase and makes it deconstruction, 685 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 2: it deconstructs it and makes it new again. I'll forget you, 686 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: but I'll never forgive It reminds me of when Lauren 687 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: Conrad said to Heidi Montag the Hills, I'll forgive you. Wait, 688 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: I forgive you. I don't forgive you. We know I'll 689 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: forgive you, and I want to forget you. Yes, Oh 690 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: that was so. That was such a good. 691 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Moment with the tear going down her eye. 692 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one little tear. Oh my god. Want a 693 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: little uh droplet of vizin that they put in right 694 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: before the shot. And I'll forget you, but I'll never 695 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: forget the smallest man who ever lived. Okay, upside, Let's 696 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: get to the next song because we're Oh, I have 697 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: to go to break again. I'm gonna put in a 698 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: break before, but we're gonna cut all this out. Sorry, okay, 699 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: before we get to the next song. God, I thought 700 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: we were gonna get through more today, but we're not. 701 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to break. We'll be back after this 702 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: with what's next? 703 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: The Alchemy? 704 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: The alchemy? Ooh, who are we to fight it? We'll 705 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: be back after this. All right, we're back. Let's talk 706 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: about the Alchemy. Travis Kelsey said this is one of 707 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: his favorite songs because it's about him, bitch, and so 708 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: high School and blank Space. I saw a meme that 709 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: was like, even Travis Kelsey has songs about him and 710 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: he has to admit Blank Space fucking is the best 711 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: song ever. Yeah, it rolls. Yeah, I loved that, and yeah, 712 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: Alchemy is definitely about him. Uh, let's let me look 713 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: at the lyrics, because it's this and so high School 714 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: kind of blend together for me. Even though I'm listening 715 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: to SO, I always have a lot. 716 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: More so high School was took the place of this song, 717 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: and then the Alchemy was on the anthology. 718 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't really care where they are because they came 719 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: out like three hours apart, So it's all the same 720 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: to me. Does that look like but you're saying just 721 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: in terms of when you listen to the album through. 722 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, exactly. 723 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: This is too early for you because we haven't gotten 724 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: to school so high school yet, right, Yeah? 725 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess maybe I put more weight onto 726 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: the original album because I like to listen to it 727 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: from start to end, and I think that she curates 728 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: it in a way that is listenable in one way. 729 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, but I don't think of it that way. 730 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: But yes, I think so high School would have been 731 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: a better first song about him than Alchemy. 732 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I feel. 733 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the first time we hear Oh my god. 734 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: I so when Chris, when Taylor and Travis start dating, Chris, 735 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: my boyfriend was like, do you think our next songs 736 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: are gonna be like? And then the we touched down 737 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: in a place and then I spike the ball and 738 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: you threw me like it's just gonna be all football metaphors, 739 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, our girl is not that corny. 740 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: I go, I go, she she might, but she's going 741 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: to do it with a glitter pen way like she's 742 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: not gonna be I go, no, I'm sorry. I did 743 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 2: not say that the time I said at the time, 744 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: I said, no, she's not going to do that to us, 745 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: And because I literally I thought that that just sounded 746 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: too cheesy, But I did not realize how it could 747 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: be done in a way that would not make me 748 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: feel that way at all. And then the album came 749 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: out and I sent Chris the lyrics and I go, 750 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: I am eating crow. Absolutely, she's done it, but can 751 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: I plead? I go, I'll let you have this win 752 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: that you predicted what she would do. But I need 753 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: to tell you she's doing it ironically, and she's doing 754 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: it with like, with a little bit of irony, and 755 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: she's doing it with a glitter pen. And you're I 756 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: don't need you to understand what that means, but I 757 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: know what it means, and it's permissible. So I love 758 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: the football references and all of in so high school 759 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: in Alchemy. 760 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: My favorite line from this is he jokes that it's Heroin, 761 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: but this time with an E. 762 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely made that joke. 763 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh do you think he made it? Yeah? 764 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: I think that he was like, you're like Heroin but 765 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: with an E. And that just is and that's letting 766 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: us know that he's smarter than maybe he We think 767 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: he is swifty universe Hannahs and Sarah's because he knows 768 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: the difference than those spellings, which is not actually a 769 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: very easy thing to know the difference, and because sometimes 770 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: I get it confused. Yeah, I thought that was really cute. 771 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: But some people were saying that this song might be 772 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: about the other guy because of the mention of Heroin. 773 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't think of that. 774 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: Because it's like, because this time it's Heroin with an E, 775 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: Like last time it was Heroin without an E? Why 776 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: why say this time if there wasn't a last time? 777 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: I made that part up. But that's kind of why 778 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: I think maybe it could be because I think some 779 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: of these songs are a mixture of people. And I 780 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: also but Okay, if you're Travis and you like this 781 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: song is about me, he goes, Babe, I never made 782 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: a joke about Heroin with an E. What's that? And 783 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: she'd just be like, babes, come here and she just 784 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: kisses it and then he forgets. I don't know, Like, 785 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: do you think do you think she could, in a 786 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 2: song that's about Travis have snuck in some other guy stuff. 787 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: I think she could have. 788 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: She could have, And I wonder like, would she have 789 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: told him about her previous, her past and the guy 790 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: was dealing with drug issues? Okay, yeah, I. 791 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: Think no, I think she probably. That's what I would 792 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 2: like to ask Taylor. Taylor, when you date a new guy, 793 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: do you walk them through your romantic past? Because I 794 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: know that you want to because you're like me and 795 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: I would want to, But guys don't want to hear 796 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: that shit. Ever, Dude. 797 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: That's what's great about him is he went to the show. 798 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: He knows what she's about, he knows she's gonna write 799 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: about it. He knows that these are I. 800 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: Don't think he's thinking about it that much. I don't 801 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: think he's thinking that much about it right now. I 802 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: think he just likes a good bop. I really don't 803 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: think that he is like investigating these lyrics like we are, 804 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 2: and that is not an indictment. I love him and 805 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't need to do that, like Chris loves me 806 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: and isn't like, let me, how did you write this joke? 807 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: And what inspired it? Like he likes He just likes me, 808 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, like he doesn't need to delve into this stuff. 809 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: So I don't if we're looking for Travis to be 810 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: as SWIFTYE on the level that we are, you're gonna 811 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: be disappointed, and he shouldn't be. 812 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: Honestly, Well, I guess then. I think it would be 813 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: a bit cruel for her to say he jokes that 814 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: it's Heroin, but this time with an E. Because as 815 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: much as someone has hurt you, like a drug, addiction 816 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: is serious. So I don't think that she would make 817 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: that jest of it. 818 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that she would say it if 819 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: if that person had said it, like if the person 820 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: that said it, because he jokes, it's him saying it. 821 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: So either Travis said this or someone else said this, right, 822 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 2: And if it was the someone else, I don't find 823 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 2: it bad if she's saying the joke for him, even 824 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 2: though I mean she talks about his drug addiction, like 825 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: but you wanted drugs more and I just watched it happen. 826 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: When I first heard that, I was like, Oh, what 827 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: we're learning about someone's drug addiction. 828 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: I think that's my like top two song on the 829 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: whole album. 830 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good. I'm obsessed with that song. 831 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: How you go back to like the bridge of the 832 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: Smallest Man who Ever Lived? Yeah, I go back to 833 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: the verses of Chloe or Samers if your march. 834 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh really, the verses see the Thing That Grows and that. 835 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: Song I tell you, Oh go ahead, No. My favorite 836 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: part in that song is that I want to keep 837 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: skipping back to is I changed in? I changed into goddesses, 838 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: villains and fools, changed plans and lovers and outfits and rules, 839 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: all to outrun my desertion of you. 840 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 2: Desertion of you, desertion of you. And I just looked 841 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: at that. I was like kind of checking out the 842 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: lyrics before we got started, and I was like focused 843 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: on that exact uh verse because I loved I changed 844 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: into goddesses, villains and fools, change plans and lovers and 845 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: outfits and rules, and also outrun my desertions. So she's 846 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 2: why she out what is it to outrun a desertion? 847 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: He's gonna leave her, So she's changing anything about herself 848 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: to make him stay. 849 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 2: She's run, but it's her desertion of him, not his. Yeah, 850 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: she says, all to outrun my desertion, desertion of you. 851 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: It's her desertion. 852 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Even though that's the words, I still believe. 853 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain this, Like maybe I'm 854 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: in lalla land. I don't care, but it's like. 855 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: I think she wants to leave him, trying to outrun it. 856 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: She's trying to like dress up and do things even 857 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: though she wants out. She's trying to save the fact 858 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: that she wants out All to outrun my desertion of you, 859 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: like I was deserving. 860 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: Him deserting her. 861 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: It's not though, it's literally all to outrun my desertion. 862 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: Of you, and I get what you're saying where you're like, 863 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't care what she says. I know the feeling 864 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: that she's trying to convey, and I'm gonna go with that, 865 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: and I totally trust you to do that. But I 866 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 2: think it could also be the other thing, because. 867 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 1: It is. 868 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: Look at you looking off into the distance. Don't desert me. No, 869 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: you know the part of the song that really kills 870 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: me is if you want to break my cold, cold heart, 871 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 2: just say I loved you the way that you were. 872 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: Like She's all she's asking for is like these. If 873 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: you want to tear my world apart, just say you've 874 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: always wondered, Like all you have to all you have 875 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: to do to get me to not desert you is 876 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 2: say these two things. Say I love you the way 877 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: that you were. Just say that and I will stick around. 878 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: Or if you want to tear my world apart, if 879 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: you want to like you want to keep me, just 880 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: say you've always want like And if if we are 881 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 2: broken up and then you want to keep me or 882 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 2: get me back, just say I've always wondered what we 883 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: could have been. Like just she just wants a little 884 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: hope and she will not. 885 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: Blowing my mind right now, That is not what I 886 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: thought the song was about. 887 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: But also it is about like the fear of like 888 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: you wanting, wanting to knowing something's ending, and being terrified 889 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: of it ending because even though it might be good 890 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 2: and you want out, you think about your holograms stumbled 891 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: into my apartment, hands in the hair of somebody in darkness. 892 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, this person is that she's thinking 893 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 2: about as bisexual because Chloe, sam or Sophia or Marcus, 894 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: which I thought was a little bit like someone's getting outed, 895 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: But maybe that person's already out. I don't know. As 896 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: a decade would play us for fools. And you saw 897 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 2: my bones out with somebody new who seemed like he 898 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: would have bullied you in school. Now she's either talking 899 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: about she's out with someone who looks like a football 900 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: player that would have bullied the guy before him, or 901 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,479 Speaker 2: she's with some guy who looks like a little punk 902 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: kid who would have bullied the theater kid. I don't 903 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: know who this is about. 904 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: No, I feel like he's hooking up with somebody who 905 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: would have bullied him in school. 906 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: No, and you saw my you saw my bones out 907 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: with somebody new, So he saw her out with somebody 908 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: new who seemed like he would have bullied you in school. 909 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Nikki, you are turning my world up 910 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: down today. 911 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah, oh my good. Yes, you needed me, 912 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: but you needed drugs more. And my favorite like just 913 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: melody is and I couldn't watch it happened like that 914 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 2: is the most beautiful melody of it just conveys everything. 915 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: I just sometimes she just like nails the melody with 916 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: the words and it just that the watch it happened 917 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: ones kill me, absolutely kill me. I'm shredded. Wow, let's 918 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: get to sarready did that? No, that's okay. Clara Bow 919 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: love the lyrics. The song itself is beautiful, but it's 920 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: just not what I'm I'm just needing like fast bops 921 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: right now in my life. But I love the lyrics. 922 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the content and the commentary because even now 923 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: it's like I'm thirty five and it's like you're always compared, 924 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: you never feel like you're good enough. Like I don't know. 925 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: I just loved the message of that. Yeah, it was 926 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: so beautiful. 927 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: It's nothing new two point zero. It's about like being replaced. Yeah, 928 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: and yeah, it's you're the crown is stained, but you're 929 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 2: the real queen. I mean, like she I honestly felt 930 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: like this. Let two weeks ago when the roast happen, 931 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: Like everyone's just like you're the queen. You literally are. 932 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: People are calling me a queen for the first time 933 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: in my life, and I'm just like, I know that. 934 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 2: It's they're comparing me to people and saying like this, 935 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: you're like her, but you actually do this like trying 936 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: to build me up by comparing me to other women. 937 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: By putting down other women. 938 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you feel like there's all this attention on 939 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: you and you're you're the bell of the ball, like 940 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: you're you're the best going. And the truth is it's 941 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: that it might be for the time being, but is 942 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: only the time being. This is not an everlasting kind 943 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: of attention that you can ever count on, and it's 944 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: it will always break your heart every single time. 945 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: It is not. 946 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: You are not going to have a love affair with 947 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: show business that lasts a lifetime. It will divorce you 948 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 2: without and it will start fucking someone new, and it 949 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: will break your heart every goddamn time. So don't believe 950 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: them when they tell you they're the queen. You are 951 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: one person you were. You are someone that they told, 952 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh you look like her, but you're better. And in 953 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: the end, someone's gonna tell a girl you look like 954 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift in this light, we're loving it, and you've 955 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: got edge, but she never did. The future's bright, dazzling. Yes, 956 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: you're going to be replaced by the next thing. And 957 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna say you're like Nikki Glazer, but you actually 958 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: I don't even know what they could say. Uh what 959 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: my biggest fear is of but that butt. But I 960 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: don't even want to think about it. But it's true 961 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: that it is. This made me hate show business. Also 962 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,919 Speaker 2: the song that I saw her do for the first time, 963 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 2: Oh what was it? Well, uh, let's I don't even 964 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: think it's time to go to break yet. I told Olivia, though, schedule, 965 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: let's go to break and then we'll find out. What 966 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: song I'm talking about. Is the one that makes me 967 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 2: also hate Hollywood. All right, we're back. It's the one 968 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: that she the song that she played when I was 969 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 2: at Eras the first concert and I was up in 970 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 2: the stands and I was like, oh, this is our 971 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: secret song. I don't even know this song, but it's 972 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 2: the one about God damn it. I think it's off red, 973 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. And it's about being in 974 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: Hollywood and they moved to a farm or something. The 975 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 2: woman moves out. 976 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh it's about Joni Mitchell. Really, yes, hold on, hold 977 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: on you. 978 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: The Swifties are screaming at their Oh. 979 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm I'm usually a lot better. 980 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: In The fig and Fortune and The Lucky One, The 981 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 2: Lucky One. She played that song and I was like, 982 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: what is this? And then I was like, oh my god, 983 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: they tell you, they tell you the Lucky One, and 984 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 2: then she eventually, Yeah, she becomes famous in this town, 985 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 2: and you're the lucky one, and then you get out, 986 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: and then you're the lucky one when you get out, 987 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 2: as I think, what it's kind of about. All right, 988 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: So The Lucky One is a fucking great song. The 989 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: Alchemy Claire bo the Black Dog. This one is the 990 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 2: one that most people, I feel, are like, oh my god, 991 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 2: it's my favorite song of all time. I'm obsessed. I 992 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: can't stop listening to it, and I definitely think it's 993 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 2: that for me, but I just haven't really injected it 994 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 2: in my veins yet, but I do love it. What 995 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 2: about you. 996 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: I loved it for me. It was just so relatable, 997 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: how like she's you know, Taylor Swift and the guy 998 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: she's dating but is over with now forgot to turn 999 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: off his location and it pierces new holes in her 1000 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: heart and it's like just so honest and vulnerable and 1001 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: relatable and beautiful. And when we get to it, there's 1002 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: a song later on that really reminds me of The 1003 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: Black Dog and that experience too, which one I look 1004 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 1: in people's windows, I think when the album first came out, 1005 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: the windows, because it's like that same feeling of like, 1006 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: how don't you miss me? I just want to see 1007 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: you again? Like those two were perfectly encapsulated. Huh callback 1008 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: how I felt when like I went through my last 1009 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: breakup of The Black Dog and Yes, and I look 1010 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: in people windows like like I'm some deranged weirdo because 1011 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: I did it. I did it. I would walk around, 1012 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: I'd go to a park like is he here? Is 1013 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: he here? Am I gonna be okay? 1014 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? And hoping you do? Yes? Yes? Interesting this song does, hasn't. 1015 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: I haven't related to it yet, but I don't. I 1016 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 2: guess I don't relate to that experience of yeah, because 1017 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: she saying, how do how you don't miss me? And 1018 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 2: I just don't understand how you don't miss me? And 1019 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: the black Dog I love just sonically, I love Old 1020 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: Habits does scream and it goes prayer and prayer and 1021 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 2: prayer like that that bass and that like banging that 1022 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: gets so intense, she sounds crazy. I love it. 1023 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: That was gonna be That was a possible name for 1024 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: the song. We saw the Voice notes come out this weekend, 1025 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: and so Old Habits Dice Screaming was going to be 1026 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: the name, But I actually prefer the black Dog. 1027 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah too, and so does the bar that it's named 1028 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: after her doing well man. Yeah, yeah, I love and 1029 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, like but she's too young to know this 1030 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 2: song that wasn't intertwined in the tragic fabric of our dreaming. 1031 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 2: Eh yeah. The common theme which I also have in 1032 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: my stand up of being replaced by someone younger and 1033 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 2: finding a way to make it so like I feel 1034 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: like a lot of times, let's say I was dating 1035 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: a guy and he ends up with a young girl, 1036 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: I would like to tell myself, like they can't enjoy 1037 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: the thing, like she's yeah, she's maybe hotter and younger, 1038 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 2: but dude, she's not gonna be she's not gonna get 1039 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 2: our jokes and actually satisfying. 1040 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: They'll never have our personality and our humans. That's the 1041 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: one thing I think of, Like, no matter who you 1042 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: date after me, she will never make you laugh as 1043 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: much as I did ever ever. Ever, Yeah, that's I 1044 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: have that on. 1045 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: I know. I know There's been a couple of girls 1046 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 2: I've met before that I'm like, he better not go 1047 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 2: out with her because I think she might be funnier 1048 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: like where I've been Like uh oh, But overall that's 1049 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: where I really, I really, yeah, I'm pretty secure with 1050 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: my personality in relationship and even physically. I'm just like, 1051 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 2: you know, if you're into it, you're into it. And 1052 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't question a lot, but I guess I when 1053 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: I think about like a fear of another woman, like 1054 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: someone ending up with one, I honestly just think I 1055 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: maybe I'm an arcist. I always think they're just not 1056 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 2: having a good time. I convince myself that yeah, like 1057 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: or maybe I go, oh, she understands sports better. 1058 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: Than I do, or she's a bikini model like I stalk, 1059 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: I so first stalk every like I'll just be honest 1060 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: with that, and I'm like, you know what, at the 1061 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: end of the day, I know what I am. I 1062 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: am not those things, but I am what I am. 1063 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: And what I will say is I know guys that 1064 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: have dated bikini models, legit bikini models, and they get 1065 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: tired of fucking them, no matter how cool they are, 1066 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 2: no matter how hot they are, like everyone, and they'll 1067 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: get tired of sucking them, just like they'll get tired 1068 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: of fucking you, because that's what a monogamous relationship is. 1069 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 2: So don't worry. If you're boyfriend is dating some new 1070 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: hot girl, he might get validation from outside world that 1071 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: will make him feel good, but like he liked fucking 1072 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: you as much as her, guaranteed, because it all goes 1073 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 2: to nil no matter how hot they are. And I 1074 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 2: know that just from having guy friends who fuck really 1075 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: hot girls. So that's just my like take away. I 1076 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: would never because of my experience hearing about guys and 1077 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, her, you're trying to fucking her, and I'm 1078 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 2: just like, I don't even like feel it anymore. I'm like, oh, 1079 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: that's good news. So personality making a guy laugh, that'll 1080 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 2: never fade. Like that's something that's not recreatable, but all 1081 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,439 Speaker 2: we all, no matter how good your body is, you're 1082 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna go. We're all gonna stabilize age. Yeah, 1083 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: well not even stag and age like guys will just 1084 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 2: get Guys sexually need newness, and uh it will. It 1085 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 2: will always stagnate. So don't think that some hot girl 1086 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: is gonna rock his world. If you write rock his 1087 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 2: world a little bit longer than you did, but it'll 1088 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 2: get to as much of a like. He doesn't care. 1089 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 2: Whatever point you. Here's the good news. When guys fucking 1090 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: a model for ten months, he's jerking off to memories 1091 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 2: of your body, probably because it's new. It Literally you 1092 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 2: might have like such a worse body than the girl 1093 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 2: he's without, not you, nor but like any girl I'm 1094 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 2: talking to right now, and I guarantee you because of 1095 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: the newness of it, he's probably thinking about girls that 1096 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: look like you and not her. So that's just my 1097 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 2: little uh detour to make everyone feel better about a 1098 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: thing is not easy. Because I saw a girl with 1099 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: an amazing body today. My plate's class, which there aren't 1100 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: many in Saint louis no offense. We're all pretty big 1101 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: like here, we don't look La Hot and Saint Louis. 1102 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: None of us do, right, but this girl did. And 1103 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,439 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? And I was so 1104 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,479 Speaker 2: mad about it, and I was like, god, I bet 1105 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 2: like every guy would rather bang and I was just like, yeah, 1106 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: for a little bit, he'd rather bang her. And then 1107 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 2: we're all even, you know, okay, Yeah, so so hi, 1108 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: uh sorry, I'm gonna get you back. I love this. 1109 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 2: We all there's rumors that I'm gonna get you back. 1110 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 2: There's no spaces in it, because that's a lot. A 1111 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: thing that a certain band does in their songs. A 1112 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 2: lot is that they combine words and make a really 1113 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 2: long word. Okay, so that's a style that Wait a second, 1114 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 2: there is a lyric that I wanted to talk to 1115 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 2: you about about in lower case. I put you in 1116 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 2: something in lowercase. What's the what's the lyric? Because that 1117 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: is a folk that means that there's something in folklore 1118 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 2: about this person. Oh do you know what I'm saying? 1119 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: Because I think. 1120 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: That's her telling us that there is a folklore song 1121 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 2: about this person because it is she met Let me 1122 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: just find it, Taylor Swift. 1123 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: Lower wasn't that in Guilty of Sin? 1124 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 2: Yes? So we all know who guilty of Sin is about, right, 1125 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 2: So wait, let's find it. So sorry to everyone guilty. 1126 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: You can take this stuff out if this goes on 1127 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 2: too long, please editor. Okay, guilty as sin. Uh yeah, 1128 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: I keep my keep these longings locked. I keep these 1129 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 2: longings locked in lowercase inside of vault. Okay. Vault is 1130 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 2: obviously making us think of albums and songs that never 1131 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: made it. This might have been a song that was 1132 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: meant for folklore. It is in lowercase. It's a could 1133 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: be a vault track for folklore. I'm putting this together now, 1134 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 2: breaking news that is amazing kind of could fit on 1135 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 2: folklore if it was produced a little bit differently. And 1136 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 2: by the way, when she was making fil folklore, this 1137 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 2: is definitely when those fantasies were probably happening in the 1138 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 2: end of her relationship or when it was kind of stagnating. Right, 1139 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: So anyway back to uh, I'm gonna get you back. 1140 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I'm gonna get you back is the one 1141 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: in the lowercase. Not Guilty of Sin, but I'm gonna 1142 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 2: get you back. Everyone's saying that this is like Olivia 1143 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 2: Ravnigo already made this song like I'm Gonna get him 1144 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 2: back that song. 1145 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: Which I do, like, I don't know that song. 1146 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: What the fuck are people talking about when they say that, 1147 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck If the song is the 1148 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 2: same exact idea or theme, it's two different artists. It's 1149 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: like being like, and go, why did you paint those flowers? 1150 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 2: Monette painted flowers like that? What are you talking about? 1151 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: Don't you dare say that a girl can't write a 1152 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 2: similarly themed song about getting a guy back and in 1153 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 2: the same year, And that is I'll be the first 1154 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: to say if someone has like copied someone, Taylor's does 1155 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 2: not copy anyone, and she's certainly not gonna copy someone 1156 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: who she's being accused of, like having a tumultuous relationship with. 1157 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 2: It's an insane idea and we need more than want 1158 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 2: two songs about getting a guy back. End of discussion, 1159 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I like, I'm gonna get you back. 1160 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 1: And also this is a breakup album, and so all 1161 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: the phases of a breakup are valid on here, regardless 1162 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: of whether someone else made a song. Like, She's on 1163 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: her own journey writing her own songs getting through this. 1164 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 2: I did not know that the lyric was Lilac short skirt. 1165 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: The one that fits me. Lac skin. Okay, she's wearing 1166 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: a lilac short skirt in the the a Fortnite Your challenge, Yeah, 1167 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: Fortnite challenge. Yes, so we know this is and I 1168 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 2: who is she getting back? I think this could this 1169 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 2: be about Travis because that's short skirt. I feel like 1170 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: she was wearing during Maybe she was wearing it. I 1171 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 2: thought it was like shot recently, but maybe she just 1172 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: put it on again. 1173 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. 1174 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 2: I like, once you fix your face, I'm going in. 1175 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: I think that's like like she probably said that to 1176 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 2: a guy, like his face was probably like who, and 1177 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 2: she was like, well, once you fix your face, I'm 1178 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: kiss you. Yeah, like I'm going in, like you could 1179 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 2: don't want to, Like sometimes a guy looks at you 1180 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm not gonna kiss you while you're 1181 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 2: making a face like that at me, like I don't know. 1182 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 2: That just made me kind of think. 1183 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,800 Speaker 1: That it's just cute and flirty and honest and open, 1184 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 1: you know. 1185 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And this is like this is also like 1186 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: whether I'm gonna be your wife or gonna smash up 1187 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 2: your bike? Guy, I like bike. I haven't decided yet. 1188 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: But this is also like you gonna marry kiss he 1189 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: kill me just e. Then it's kind of that giving that. 1190 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: Let's see some other lyrics, small talk, big walk, act 1191 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: like I don't care what you did. I'm the aston 1192 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 2: Martin that steered you straight into the ditch then ran 1193 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: and hid Martin. 1194 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: That's an English car, isn't it. 1195 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: It is? Yeah, like an F one team. I think 1196 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: they were like excited she mentioned them, Um, yeah, sir, 1197 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 2: the song is really I think the song is so 1198 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: fun and I've liked it from the get go, but 1199 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't hear people talking about it a lot. And 1200 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 2: then let's end this time together with the Albatross, even 1201 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 2: though it's not my favorite song and I don't have 1202 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 2: a lot to say about it, but let me look 1203 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 2: up the lyrics and maybe I'll stumble upon my feeling. 1204 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: Sell me on it, girl. 1205 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: The melody die Mann set Wild Winds Death to the Candle, Like, 1206 00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: the melody is incredible. 1207 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't grip me, but I do like, yeah, I 1208 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: don't know that the melody doesn't grip me, even though 1209 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 2: I do acknowledge that if I ever came up with 1210 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 2: a melody this good, I would just like quit comedy forever, 1211 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: like it's it's it is good, it's just not in 1212 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: my bones. 1213 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: Okay. I love the cross your thoughtless heart, Like what's 1214 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: crossing a thoughtless heart? Like someone's lying, they're crossing their 1215 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: heart but they're not thinking about it. Only liquor annoints you. 1216 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I love only liquor. I like the 1217 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: I like the phrasing of that. 1218 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: Everything. 1219 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let me see and when the sky rains fire 1220 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 2: on you and your person I love Persona. I really 1221 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: like that. I love that persona non granda. That is 1222 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: fun and I just like anything that she is here 1223 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 2: to destroy you. I mean, she's vicious in this album 1224 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: watch Out, She's it's so fun. 1225 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: I love it. And it was like, you know, just 1226 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: the same with your roast and the same with like 1227 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do in my life. Just be honest, 1228 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: does it matter? Other people's feelings are not your responsibility if. 1229 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: You're speaking your Troy, yes, love it. What other people 1230 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 2: think of you as none of your business. I mean there, 1231 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 2: but she also like gives no fucks because she's at 1232 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: the top, Like how could you like how great would 1233 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: it be? That's one thing that I have to say 1234 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 2: after this roast like people have been so nice to me. 1235 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be my friend. It's kind of like 1236 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm the popular girl in school right now in the 1237 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 2: comedy world, and it feels really good to finally feel that, 1238 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 2: like to get that attention. It's just it's you know, 1239 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: that's why I was always the girl in school. 1240 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be the popular girl. 1241 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 2: And it like feels nice. But I will say, but 1242 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm not. I know, I know what it is now. 1243 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh my god, this is real like 1244 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 2: it it feels good, but I'm not like nuts over it. 1245 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 2: But I will say that. 1246 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: That's really healthy. You should give yourself credit for that. 1247 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 2: I am so proud of myself with how I'm handling this, 1248 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm a little bit arrogant sometimes and I give 1249 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 2: myself credit in the way like that I need to 1250 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 2: that people have taught me, Like Nikki, lets some of 1251 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 2: this in you deserve it, But I really am not 1252 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 2: it's not. I don't think it's changing who I am. 1253 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like not that. But it's still early, so 1254 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: just give it time then and then I'll change my 1255 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: number and I won't give you the new one more. 1256 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 2: Jk oh no no, I'd never do that to you. 1257 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like the best part about it 1258 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: is that I don't have to suck up to anyone anymore, 1259 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 2: Like I don't have to Like, if you want to 1260 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 2: work with me, great, but like if you don't, it's okay. 1261 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 2: Other people do now that I would have never dreamed of. 1262 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 2: So I don't this lifeline that used to be you 1263 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: and me having to be nice to you and put 1264 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 2: up with your bullshit. I don't have to do that anymore, 1265 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: Like you would be lucky to work with me now. 1266 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that to be like, uh, I 1267 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 2: feel that way, like just based on the politics of 1268 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 2: the way. It just literally facts. It's my stock is 1269 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: up and I don't have to deal. And you know, 1270 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: that's what's nice about having power is that you don't 1271 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 2: have to And and fame is this like elusive illusion 1272 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: of power because ultimately if fad'es like we've learned in 1273 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 2: Clara Bow and all this stuff, But that is I 1274 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 2: will say, for Taylor to be able to throw people 1275 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: under the bus very publicly like she's doing is really 1276 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 2: fascinating to me because it's someone who truly has nothing 1277 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 2: to gain from anyone from kissing anyone's ass anymore if 1278 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to. And what freedom is that? You know, 1279 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: you hope to find it before, Like you hope to 1280 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 2: be someone who doesn't kiss anyone's ass for things, but 1281 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: it's really subconscious, like I don't. I really try not to. 1282 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I don't try to kiss 1283 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 2: people's ass in this business to get things. But I'm 1284 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 2: overall a nice person, and I am aware of what 1285 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 2: being a pleasant person can get me as opposed to 1286 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: just maybe honest and being like I don't want to 1287 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 2: talk to you right now, you know, Like I'm not 1288 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 2: gonna say that to someone, but it is nice to 1289 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 2: have a fuck you power and like have it for 1290 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 2: literally like you could say you could throw anyone under 1291 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 2: the bus, and like she could changed the election. She 1292 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: could change world election. 1293 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Hood, world election hood. 1294 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 2: She has more power than literally anyone has. 1295 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Anyone she is and her like NYU doctorate. Like when 1296 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 1: they were introducing her for her honorary doctorated n YU, 1297 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: they were like, you know, she's a champion for artist rights. 1298 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: She like they listed all these things that she does 1299 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: outside of just music, and they are significant, like the 1300 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: way she fought stood up against Apple, and she fights 1301 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: for artists to own their work. 1302 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: And that guy who grabbed her ass, oh violence, Oh 1303 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 2: was that? Yeah? Do I want her to stop eating 1304 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 2: meat and talk about it? Oh? My god? Yes? Do 1305 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 2: I want her to go vegan? 1306 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Like? 1307 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just I am so obsessed with the 1308 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 2: second chorus of but Daddy, I love him where she 1309 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 2: just jumps from side to side with her skirt and 1310 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm so obsessed with that skirt, especially on so High 1311 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 2: School when she gets on the bleachers and they're doing 1312 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 2: all the like you know how the ball, I know, Aristotle, 1313 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 2: and then she brand new full throttle and she like 1314 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 2: tucks the skirp into beneath her legs so you don't 1315 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 2: see her crotch. It's such a smooth movie, and it 1316 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 2: looks so cool because she's never indecent, you know, yeah, 1317 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 2: you know on the chair dance, she'll like put her 1318 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 2: hand down, but she'll stop right before her pubic bone 1319 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: and slid off, like even when. 1320 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 1: She's like touch Miller, your boys play grand Theft Auto, 1321 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Like she do you notice that move? Yeah? 1322 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I love like where she's leaning back 1323 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 2: and they go back side to side. I'm so obsessed 1324 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see it. I'm going, I'm hopefully 1325 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 2: gonna go see her somewhere in Europe. But I still 1326 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 2: haven't gotten confirmation on those tickets. But I think I 1327 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 2: have another in we you. 1328 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Know what we could do. We could get like I 1329 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: don't know, like just like a set of four of five, five, 1330 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: six tickets and just like all you bring your mom, 1331 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: like it'll be me, my cousin, my aun. 1332 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 2: How do you go about getting tickets? I'm I'm going 1333 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 2: to go on through Recell site sites and then they're available. 1334 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: And stubhob Yeah, I mean they're not the cheapest if 1335 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, especially seated on because my aunt doesn't 1336 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: My aunt doesn't want to sit on the floor because 1337 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: it's three hours and she needs to sit down for 1338 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: a bit. 1339 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna go separate because I gotta 1340 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 2: be I gotta be standing all the time. Okay, I 1341 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 2: got to be on the floor. I got really Oh 1342 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm not never. I'm never not being on the floor again. 1343 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 2: And I'll go if someone has tickets that I but 1344 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: it's just how I like to see it. I've seen 1345 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 2: it in every little different way, and that's how I 1346 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: like to be floor is king for you and I 1347 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 2: got I gotta see eras on the floor and I 1348 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: gotta be on I want to be on one of 1349 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 2: the sides because I want to see that fucking I 1350 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: want to see close up of the smallest Man who 1351 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 2: ever lived Bridge. And if you have don't know what 1352 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you need to go find the video 1353 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 2: right now and watch it a million times with me. 1354 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 2: And then if you ever meet me in person, can 1355 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 2: we just at the meet and greet sing the Bridge 1356 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 2: to the Smallest Man who Ever lived together? That is 1357 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: something I would like to do with besties who come 1358 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: to the show. But we have to go. This podcast 1359 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 2: has gone on far too long, and we will do 1360 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: another one to cover the rest of the songs soon. 1361 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 2: But this was so fun and it always is. I 1362 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 2: love you, Nora, I love you more, Nikki. Bye, guys, 1363 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 2: don't be cud and listen to Taylor