Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you, Senator, I cannot believe that I'm going to
Speaker 1: start Verdict by saying this. But apparently Joe Biden is
Speaker 1: going to build the wall, and I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: wall with Mexico. This was announced very you know, nonchalant,
Speaker 1: no big deal, and see it in is losing their
Speaker 1: minds over this. I want to play that in a second,
Speaker 1: but first I want to get your initial reaction to this.
Speaker 2: Well, it in News of the Weird.
Speaker 3: You know, have Joe Biden standing up promising to build
Speaker 3: the wall. I'm waiting for him to grab a red
Speaker 3: Maga hat, put it on, and and and and explain
Speaker 3: that that AOC is going to pay for it. It
Speaker 3: is truly loopy stuff. To cut to the conclusion, I
Speaker 3: don't actually believe him. I think this is this is
Speaker 3: make believe, This is trying to pretend they're responding to
Speaker 3: the border crisis. But but but here Playhouse CNN covers
Speaker 3: it because it really does show that even as media
Speaker 3: cheerleaders are calling BS on this.
Speaker 4: Biden is building the wall, at least part of it.
Speaker 4: This is something he said he would not do. The
Speaker 4: Biden administration announced it will waive twenty six federal laws
Speaker 4: to allow border wall construction in South Texas because of
Speaker 4: what they call an acute and immediate knee. The plan
Speaker 4: is to construct up to twenty miles of new border
Speaker 4: barriers in Star County. That's in the Rio Grande Valley area.
Speaker 4: Some two hundred and forty five thousand migrants have attempted
Speaker 4: to cross the border illegally in just that one sector
Speaker 4: since October of last year. On the entire border there,
Speaker 4: the number is closer to three million. Hundreds of migrants
Speaker 4: rush pass border control agents near El Paso yesterday. So
Speaker 4: when he was running for president, Biden made clear that
Speaker 4: he would not expand the border wall if elected.
Speaker 2: Come campaigned on build that wall.
Speaker 5: Are you willing to tear that wall down?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: There will not be another foot of wall construct it
Speaker 6: on my administration. The President also said today that former
Speaker 6: presidents have said to him that they.
Speaker 7: Wish that they had built a wall.
Speaker 2: Do you recall President Obama were saying that.
Speaker 6: I can't think of a single one who said that
Speaker 6: we need border security, but that's not the border security
Speaker 6: we need.
Speaker 4: And on the day he took office, President biden'signed a
Speaker 4: proclamation stating that, quote building a massive wall that spans
Speaker 4: the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution
Speaker 4: that we should know. Today's action does not do that.
Speaker 4: It's a twenty mile section. Nevertheless, it is very different
Speaker 4: than what President Biden campaigned on.
Speaker 1: I mean, Senator, I love CNN here because they're like
Speaker 1: owning Joe Biden. They never fact check in this way
Speaker 1: because this is how much they hate the idea of
Speaker 1: a wall. They can't stand that he's quote flip flopping.
Speaker 1: And this is when it's fun to be a conservative.
Speaker 1: You can just sit back and watch them burn him
Speaker 1: down on this. I also think that part about this
Speaker 1: that needs to be put in perspective, because you've been
Speaker 1: to the border probably more than any other senator in history.
Speaker 1: Is twenty miles as great, but it's not near as
Speaker 1: much as we actually need.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and from the announcement, they're putting it
Speaker 3: down in the Rio Grand Valley in Star County, and
Speaker 3: that's valuable. That's an area of very high traffic. So
Speaker 3: that is beneficial. If they actually follow through and build
Speaker 3: that section of the wall, that's beneficial.
Speaker 2: But here's the important thing to understand.
Speaker 3: You can build a wall on the entirety of the
Speaker 3: border and it will not stop illegal immigration unless, unless,
Speaker 3: unless you have an administration that will follow the law
Speaker 3: and deport the people who come here illegally. So when
Speaker 3: I'm down at the border, almost without exception, I sit down,
Speaker 3: I meet with the border patrol agents, I meet with ICE,
Speaker 3: I meet with sheriffs, I meet with local police and
Speaker 3: local law enforcement, and I try to listen. I try
Speaker 3: to ask them, Okay, what tools do you need, how
Speaker 3: do you actually secure the the border?
Speaker 2: Now? Without exception, they say they need a wall, that
Speaker 2: a wall is beneficial, but understand that a wall alone
Speaker 2: doesn't solve the problem. And why is that.
Speaker 3: Well, there's the old line that if you build a
Speaker 3: ten foot wall, someone brings an eleven foot ladder. And
Speaker 3: what law enforcement on the border tells me is that's true,
Speaker 3: that people bring ladders, they get over the wall, that
Speaker 3: they get around the wall. That the wall is not
Speaker 3: the complete solution. The reason a wall is valuable is
Speaker 3: what is critical if you're trying to stop illegal immigration
Speaker 3: is the time between detection and apprehension. And what a
Speaker 3: wall does is it slows people down. It takes longer
Speaker 3: to get over a wall to get around a wall
Speaker 3: that if there's no wall, And in particular, a wall
Speaker 3: is valuable in more urban environments where there's there's not
Speaker 3: much space between the border and disappearing into a heavily
Speaker 3: populated area, So they're parts of rugged West Texas where
Speaker 3: you've got really tough to and a wall, frankly is
Speaker 3: not that useful in an area where the terrain is
Speaker 3: already a natural barrier. But if you're dealing with a
Speaker 3: portion of the border that is by a heavily populated
Speaker 3: area and an illegal immigrant is able to cross and
Speaker 3: suddenly disappear into the city, that's where a wall is
Speaker 3: really valuable. But even when the wall is built, what
Speaker 3: you have to have is an administration willing to deport
Speaker 3: the people they apprehend, and what Joe Biden is not
Speaker 3: willing to do is to end catch and release. And
Speaker 3: as long as catch and release remains the policy, this
Speaker 3: crisis will continue to get worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 3: And I think the purpose of this announcement is that
Speaker 3: they want a photo off of building a few feet
Speaker 3: a wall, so that it can assuage some of the
Speaker 3: Blue state governors and blue state mayors that are getting
Speaker 3: worked up. But it will not work all to reduce
Speaker 3: ilegal immigration because Joe Biden intends to keep releasing the
Speaker 3: illegals that come.
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Speaker 1: You look at the headline, it says Biden Administration waves
Speaker 1: twenty six federal laws to allow border wall construction in
Speaker 1: South Texas. That's the headline that they wanted. And yet
Speaker 1: you mentioned catch and release. It's been a while and
Speaker 1: for many people to understand the border issue. They'll understand that,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that are listening center
Speaker 1: that may understand the policy. There was a different policy
Speaker 1: under the Trump administration when it come to catching release,
Speaker 1: and immediately the administration said we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 1: Can you explain why that loophole has, how dangerous it
Speaker 1: is and also how many people it's allowed to come
Speaker 1: this country. We're talking about millions because of a simple
Speaker 1: policy decision, and if he changed that, that would do
Speaker 1: more than building twenty miles of a wall.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's exactly right. And you know I would point
Speaker 2: listeners back.
Speaker 3: You and I did a podcast a number of months
Speaker 3: ago down on the southern border and we interviewed Brandon Judd.
Speaker 3: Brandon Judd is the head of the National Border Patrol Union.
Speaker 3: He's a good friend, and that's the union of all
Speaker 3: the border patrol agents, the men and women risking their
Speaker 3: lives to secure the border. And we sat down we
Speaker 3: were down to the Rio Grande Valley with Brandon and
Speaker 3: we sat down with him and interviewed him by the border.
Speaker 3: And one of the things Brandon said that a lot
Speaker 3: of people don't realize, but it was striking. He said,
Speaker 3: to secure the border, to fix this problem, he said,
Speaker 3: we don't need any more money. He said, we don't
Speaker 3: even need more agents. Although more agents would help, he said,
Speaker 3: that's not really what we need.
Speaker 2: To secure the border.
Speaker 3: He said, what we need is policy, a change in policy,
Speaker 3: a change in executive policy. And it comes down to
Speaker 3: one central question. When you apprehend an illegal immigrant, what
Speaker 3: do you do with that illegal immigrant? Now? Under Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: when they apprehended someone, they put him on a plane
Speaker 3: and they flew him back to where he came from.
Speaker 2: They deported him. That was critical.
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, and I'll explain this
Speaker 3: in a minute, was the remain in Mexico agreement, and
Speaker 3: that together, those two together produced the lowest rate of
Speaker 3: illegal immigration in forty five years. Biden literally his first
Speaker 3: week in office, he reversed that. So now when they
Speaker 3: catch someone, they'll give him a coordinate, typically several years
Speaker 3: in the future, and then they'll ask him where do
Speaker 3: you want to go in the meantime, And they'll say,
Speaker 3: I want to go to New York City, I want
Speaker 3: to go to Chicago, I want to go to Dallas,
Speaker 3: I want to go to la And the Biden administration
Speaker 3: will put him on a plane or put him on
Speaker 3: a bus and send them to whatever city they're in.
Speaker 3: And and in fact, you were just in New York.
Speaker 3: You told me you were sitting next to an illegal
Speaker 3: immigrant who was flying on the plane to New York
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the plane was filled with them. It was it
Speaker 1: was shocking. I texted you the picture. There was a
Speaker 1: man sitting next to me. He had all of his
Speaker 1: papers in a in a in a see through, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of sheer plastic, you know, envelope, and he had
Speaker 1: his red cross blanket that was with him. He had
Speaker 1: his little knatsack that the US government gave him, he
Speaker 1: had his cell phone and and I speak very little Spanish,
Speaker 1: but I was able to communicate enough. I said, we're head.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I've come and I've come to America
Speaker 1: and they're now letting me go to New York City.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, across the border and he said yes,
Speaker 1: and he was very excited. You and I taxpayers paid
Speaker 1: for that airline ticket. Uh, we paid for all the
Speaker 1: stuff that he had with him that was you know, new.
Speaker 1: And I'm assuming there's a good chance that cell phone
Speaker 1: he had was probably issued by the US government as well,
Speaker 1: because they've been doing that. But he wasn't the only
Speaker 1: one on that point. I mean, that was the first time.
Speaker 1: There's part of me saying, yay, I'm glad that he's
Speaker 1: going to New York City and not staying in Texas,
Speaker 1: because that's what's going to end up fixing this problem.
Speaker 1: Is what we're seeing with the they call it, you know,
Speaker 1: anarchy and chaos, and they can't handle the illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: But that was the first time I'd ever witnessed it,
Speaker 1: sitting there knowing, Wow, I just paid for this guy
Speaker 1: just broke into our country to go to wherever he
Speaker 1: wanted to go. And I witnessed it first hit of
Speaker 1: a shocking to me when you're sitting next to it.
Speaker 3: So and I understand that, and I've seen that many times,
Speaker 3: particularly when you've got flights coming out of South Texas.
Speaker 3: You can see half the flight or more filled with
Speaker 3: illegal aliens that the Biden administration he is paying to
Speaker 3: fly all over the country.
Speaker 2: And that's happening day in day out.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's not Greg Abbott, or as Eric
Speaker 3: Adams calls him, that madman in Texas busting them to
Speaker 3: New York. That's Joe Biden flying them to New York.
Speaker 3: And that's happening day after day after day. But you know,
Speaker 3: I will say, if you didn't listen to the podcast
Speaker 3: we did with Brandon Judd, you ought to go go
Speaker 3: back and listen to it because he explained that it
Speaker 3: is the policy of catch and release that produces this
Speaker 3: problem and Joe Biden does not intend to change catch
Speaker 3: and release. And I mentioned remain in Mexico so remain
Speaker 3: in Mexico was an agreement the Trump administration negotiated with
Speaker 3: Mexico that said that when people crossed illegally into Mexico,
Speaker 3: and many of them were coming from South America or
Speaker 3: Central America, that they would remain in Mexico, that they'd
Speaker 3: stay in Mexico while their US asylum case was proceeding.
Speaker 3: And that worked incredibly well. That's what produced the lowest
Speaker 3: rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. Now, one
Speaker 3: thing you said, Ben that I think is probably not
Speaker 3: not the case. You said you thought that cell phone
Speaker 3: likely was given to him by the federal government. That
Speaker 3: probably is not the case because in my experience, virtually
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the illegal aliens crossing the border
Speaker 3: have their own cell phone with them. It's one of
Speaker 3: the few property items they carry. And it's why catch
Speaker 3: and release is so pernicious, because what happens is they
Speaker 3: get here, they turn themselves in, they go look for
Speaker 3: a border patrol agent. They turn themselves in. The border
Speaker 3: patrol agent ask, Okay, where do you want to go?
Speaker 3: They say, I want to go to New York City.
Speaker 3: They say great. They start processing them and then what
Speaker 3: happens is the illegal immigrant they pick up their cell
Speaker 3: phone and they call their friends, they call their family,
Speaker 3: they call their buddies and say, hey, guess what if
Speaker 3: you come here, you get to stay. And by the way,
Speaker 3: when they let them go, the vast majority of these
Speaker 3: people are never seen again. The court date is a
Speaker 3: complete fiction. That is the source of the problem. And
Speaker 3: Biden the same week he halted the border wall, the
Speaker 3: same week he reinstated catch and release, that same week
Speaker 3: he pulled out. It remain in Mexico that caused this crisis.
Speaker 1: But I explain the remain in Mexico that the same
Speaker 1: week he pulled out because people hear that, what did
Speaker 1: that actually do? What did it mean?
Speaker 3: So what it What it meant is is that asylum
Speaker 3: cases would proceed, but they'd stay in Mexico. They would
Speaker 3: not be allowed to come to America. They would stay
Speaker 3: in that they had camps in Mexico just south of
Speaker 3: our southern border where they'd stay while the asylum case proceeded.
Speaker 3: But it meant they didn't get let go in America.
Speaker 3: The critical thing about remain in Mexico is they were
Speaker 3: not released in America, and so you didn't have the magnet.
Speaker 3: You didn't have the pull effect, and so they'd call
Speaker 3: home and they'd say, hey, don't come. I thought i'd
Speaker 3: get to America. I got here, I got apprehended, and
Speaker 3: I'm stuck in Mexico. Damn, and I'm not in America.
Speaker 3: I'm in Mexico. This sucks. I'm not you know, don't come.
Speaker 3: They've actually really secured the border. And by the way,
Speaker 3: Trump leaned vigorously on the President of Mexico on it
Speaker 3: MLO to force him to agree to remain in Mexico. Also,
Speaker 3: he got the Mexican government to put six thousand troops
Speaker 3: on their southern border. You know, the southern border of
Speaker 3: Mexico is much much smaller. It's just a few hundred
Speaker 3: miles as compared to our southern border that's two thousand miles.
Speaker 3: And it's just obviously Mexico narrows as it goes into
Speaker 3: Central America. The southern border of Mexico's much easier to
Speaker 3: secure than our southern border because it's much smaller. That combination,
Speaker 3: I want to contrast at the same AMLO that Trump,
Speaker 3: by standing strong, was able to get to agree to
Speaker 3: remain in Mexico.
Speaker 2: When Joe Biden was president.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to January of this year, January twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, where Joe Biden did a press conference with
Speaker 3: Amlo and Amlo praised him for building being the first
Speaker 3: president in recent history to build not even a single
Speaker 3: meter of border wall.
Speaker 2: Listen, President Biden, you are the first president.
Speaker 4: Of the United States then has not built not even
Speaker 4: one meter of wall.
Speaker 8: And that.
Speaker 2: We thank you for that, sir, although.
Speaker 1: Not like it, although the conservatives don't like it.
Speaker 2: Now, Ben, I want you to listen carefully to what
Speaker 2: Amlo said.
Speaker 3: And amlo is is the nickname, it's the abbreviation for
Speaker 3: the Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, that's the current
Speaker 3: president of Mexico.
Speaker 2: He's a hard leftist.
Speaker 3: And what he said, which we just played and you
Speaker 3: could hear him in the Spanish in the background and
Speaker 3: then the female translator, but I want you to listen
Speaker 3: to the words again. What he said is, you are
Speaker 3: the first president of the United States in a very
Speaker 3: long time that has not built even one meter of wall.
Speaker 2: Neiun metro is what he said.
Speaker 3: And he goes on to say, and we thank you
Speaker 3: for that, sir, although some might not like it, although
Speaker 3: the conservatives.
Speaker 2: Don't like it.
Speaker 3: And this entire time, AMLO's praising Biden for being the
Speaker 3: first guy in a long time not to build wall,
Speaker 3: including not Trump, not Obama, not Bush. Nope, Biden had
Speaker 3: not built even one meter of wall. Biden is sitting
Speaker 3: there grinning like some silly kid while he's allowing an
Speaker 3: invasion of our country. The important thing to understand is
Speaker 3: Biden still intends to allow the invasion of the country.
Speaker 3: He just realized that building a little bit of wall
Speaker 3: it is good camouflage to pretend that this is not
Speaker 3: all his fault.
Speaker 1: Well, and let's back that up with facts and proof
Speaker 1: of what you just said. The Biden administration has been
Speaker 1: purposely cut out bob wire at the border to facilitate
Speaker 1: more legal aliens into the United States of America. Now
Speaker 1: this it was caught on video, reported on video on
Speaker 1: Fox News Channel.
Speaker 8: Take a listen now at Eagle Pass in Texas. Our
Speaker 8: drone is up in the air again and this picture
Speaker 8: has not gotten better. We've watched this now for ten days.
Speaker 8: The state of Texas has put that barbed wire, the
Speaker 8: Concertina wire down to block migrants or to dissuade them
Speaker 8: from crossing the Rio Grande River. It's been mildly successful,
Speaker 8: but every time you see this, you get a back
Speaker 8: up on the banks of that river, and the White
Speaker 8: House puts a phone call in the border patrol and
Speaker 8: they cut that wire and then you see the line move.
Speaker 2: And then in the.
Speaker 5: Sanate of Texas, the leadership of Texas and the White
Speaker 5: House and the people in Texas largely have to deal
Speaker 5: with it. You know, one hundred thousand in New York
Speaker 5: is just you know, a very small number compared to
Speaker 5: what they've had to deal with in Texas. So it
Speaker 5: is in a stop Douatian. Plus you have all these
Speaker 5: children who have been brought here by human traffickers and
Speaker 5: the cartel basically in charge of the operations.
Speaker 8: On and on it goes, and the federal government repeatedly
Speaker 8: challenges the state of Texas when they try and impede
Speaker 8: the crossing or the passing of those into that from
Speaker 8: the drone an egle pass Texas.
Speaker 1: I mean, Senator, you can hear it there, Martha McCallum,
Speaker 1: Bill Himmer. They're watching this on TV. They're laughing at
Speaker 1: the idea that now you have a presence saying got
Speaker 1: to build this wall, but we're cutting down the bob
Speaker 1: wire to let people in. We're fighting with Texas saying
Speaker 1: you cannot secure the border. But then we bring an
Speaker 1: announcement saying we're going to secure twenty miles of the
Speaker 1: border and the rest of it. I guess they're going
Speaker 1: to keep cutting down bob wire. This is literally the
Speaker 1: definition of total insanity. Or they're just straight up lying
Speaker 1: to the American people, as you reference earlier, to play
Speaker 1: kate to these liberal mayors in places like New York
Speaker 1: that are freaking out they have one hundred thousand, Well
Speaker 1: guess what, Wait till you get a million, and then
Speaker 1: see what you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, look, that's exactly right. The Biden administration wants illegal immigration.
Speaker 3: They want more of it. They want the numbers. Right
Speaker 3: now it's seven point six million, it's the highest in ever.
Speaker 3: They want it to grow to ten, to fifteen, to
Speaker 3: twenty million because they look at these illegal immigrants as
Speaker 3: future Democrat voters.
Speaker 2: They want open borders. So you're right.
Speaker 3: The state of Texas is putting barguire up trying to
Speaker 3: secure the border, and the Biden administration sends people in
Speaker 3: to cut it down, to open it up. So that
Speaker 3: the illegal immigrants can come faster. The Biden Department of
Speaker 3: Justice is suing the State of Texas trying to stop
Speaker 3: the State of Texas from putting barriers on the border.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Alejandro Mayorcis, they want
Speaker 3: to accelerate illegal immigration. And understand this about may orcus
Speaker 3: He views doing his job well as get more efficient,
Speaker 3: getting faster in processing illegal immigrants, so that they shrink
Speaker 3: the time and make it even quicker and quicker and
Speaker 3: quicker to move illegal immigrants into the interior. And so
Speaker 3: this announcement today, it is one thing and one thing only.
Speaker 3: It's a press release, it's a photo op. It is
Speaker 3: designed so they can pretend, gosh see, we're secure in
Speaker 3: the border. But their objective is for the numbers to
Speaker 3: keep going up. And the way you know that is
Speaker 3: they're not changing catch and release, they're not changing the
Speaker 3: policies that cause this crisis. Instead, they're continuing to fly
Speaker 3: illegal aliens to every city in America, and they're continuing
Speaker 3: to enrich the cartels and turn them into multi billion
Speaker 3: dollar global criminal enterprises.
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Speaker 1: seems to be reading the political tea leaves here as well,
Speaker 1: Centaer and this is very concerning from a national security
Speaker 1: standpoint because a couple of years ago, for several years
Speaker 1: in a row, and I haven't seen the most recent
Speaker 1: numbers for this year, but the number one stimulus of
Speaker 1: Mexico's economy was the legal immigrants in America. Sending money
Speaker 1: back to Mexico is outpacing oil production, to put it
Speaker 1: in perspective in Mexico, and so every person they get
Speaker 1: across the border that ends up sending money back to
Speaker 1: Mexico and not draining the resource in Mexico, that's a
Speaker 1: net gain financially for Mexico is a nation. What we're
Speaker 1: now seeing, and part of this could be because of
Speaker 1: the rhetoric changing from the White House is apparently from
Speaker 1: what's being reported, Mexico is now busting people to the
Speaker 1: border to come into America. Take a listen to this
Speaker 1: from Fox.
Speaker 7: Mexican government initiative that's likely going to complicate the migrant
Speaker 7: crisis at least here in the US. Authorities there have
Speaker 7: begun bussing migrants from the southern part of Mexico north.
Speaker 2: Towards the US.
Speaker 7: This is an attempt by Mexico to free of existing
Speaker 7: public transportation that's currently being overwhelmed by the estimated six
Speaker 7: thousand who crossed into Mexico each day.
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear that that's shocking on its face
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Well it is, And understand this is caused by Joe
Speaker 2: Biden's weakness. MLO doesn't respect Joe Biden. He thinks he's
Speaker 2: an incredibly weak commander in chief. You know, we played
Speaker 2: earlier a snippet from the joint press conference they had
Speaker 2: in January where Amlo is looking at him and is
Speaker 2: able to walk all over him and listen. Amelo is
Speaker 2: a hard leftist.
Speaker 3: He campaigned and got elected in part running on an
Speaker 3: anti American agenda. But when he came in, Donald Trump
Speaker 3: was president and Amlo was scared of Trump. He didn't
Speaker 3: want to mess with Trump. And so ironically, this hard leftist,
Speaker 3: anti American Mexican president cooperated And remember the way remain
Speaker 3: in Mexico got signed is Trump threatened to put in
Speaker 3: place a twenty five percent tariff on all goods coming
Speaker 3: from Mexico.
Speaker 2: That threat scared the hell.
Speaker 3: Out of Amlow, which is why he knuckled under and
Speaker 3: agreed to remain in Mexico. He didn't do so eagerly,
Speaker 3: but he was afraid that Trump was just crazy enough
Speaker 3: that he would put those tariffs in place. The difference
Speaker 3: now is Biden's so weak that Amlo he's getting even
Speaker 3: further left, more anti American, and he's deliberately fueling this
Speaker 3: invasion at our southern border and the dynamic and by.
Speaker 2: The way, even Eric Adams.
Speaker 3: So Eric Adams has been getting some praise lately for
Speaker 3: having the courage to say illegal immigration is destroying New
Speaker 3: York City. Well this week Eric Adams still said, well,
Speaker 3: we want open borders.
Speaker 2: Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We want open borders, we just want a process to
Speaker 3: deal with it. Basically, what he's saying is give us money.
Speaker 3: If the Feds will give us the money, we'll take
Speaker 3: these illegal immigrants and just give them billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: We just don't have the cash to cover it. But
Speaker 3: I think what happened is Adams was getting grief from
Speaker 3: his left flank, and he felt the need this week
Speaker 3: to say, look, understand, I'm a Democrat, I'm four open borders,
Speaker 3: but this is a real problem. This week's announcement about
Speaker 3: the border wall is essentially press damage control from Biden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is is exactly that, and like you said,
Speaker 1: it's probably an empty promise. And watch the media. They
Speaker 1: will pound him on this issue to make sure it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I also want to get your take on
Speaker 1: a headline that's really exploded while we've been taping this
Speaker 1: right now, and that deals with there is now intel
Speaker 1: that shows that Maga Republicans, Donald Trump's supporters, will be
Speaker 1: targeted by the FBI as the twenty twenty four election nears.
Speaker 1: Newsweek is now reporting on this and Biden to go
Speaker 1: back tweeted in September of last year quote Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and Maga Republicans are a threat to the very soul
Speaker 1: of this country. The very soul of this country. Chris
Speaker 1: the FBI director, Chrisopher Ray and sworn testimony, said it's
Speaker 1: not just Trump supporters. Early this year, he said, House
Speaker 1: Republicans say the FBI document that they've obtained proved that
Speaker 1: several filled offices contributed to a memo that targeted traditional Catholics.
Speaker 1: We talked about this extensively on this show as potential
Speaker 1: terrorists and tried to turn parishioners on their fellow church goers.
Speaker 1: So if you just look at the last year, parents
Speaker 1: who show up at school board meetings are to be
Speaker 1: labeled domestic terrorists. The FBI was spending time recruiting people
Speaker 1: in the Catholic church to spy on their friends and family.
Speaker 1: And now we are being told that heading into the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election that if you are a Donald
Speaker 1: Trump follower supporter, that you may be now monitored or
Speaker 1: targeted by the FBI.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, and part of the challenge heare, like,
Speaker 3: for example, you focused on the FBI's targeting of traditional Catholics,
Speaker 3: which they rightly got enormous grief because they were talking
Speaker 3: about infiltrating Catholic churches and trying to get priests to
Speaker 3: spy on their parishioners and and and become FBI informants
Speaker 3: to inform on the members of their church. So initially
Speaker 3: the FBI said, oh, that was a rogue office down
Speaker 3: in Richmond, Virginia. It's not a broader problem now that
Speaker 3: they've admitted that it was multiple offices that participated in
Speaker 3: that this was a much broader effort to target traditional
Speaker 3: Catholics and and and the same is true, uh with
Speaker 3: with the targeting of Donald Trump supporters. You know, even
Speaker 3: this language, so you can tell someone did a focus
Speaker 3: group on the Democrat side and they discovered the phrase
Speaker 3: maga Republican. They're going to brand that that like magi
Speaker 3: by the way, maga republican and their definition they mean everybody.
Speaker 3: They literally mean every Republican is a maga Republican. And
Speaker 3: then and then they just think the word maga is
Speaker 3: really scary, and they claim that that if you are
Speaker 3: a maga Republican is defined as a Republican who voted
Speaker 3: for Donald So you know, seventy five to eighty million
Speaker 3: Americans are defined, according to this White House as potential terrorists,
Speaker 3: as threats to democracy.
Speaker 2: And this is how Democrats have become radicalized.
Speaker 3: They now say if you dare vote against Democrats, you
Speaker 3: are a threat to democracy. Just understand, every time Democrats
Speaker 3: use the word democracy, what they mean is me, I'm
Speaker 3: a Democrat. I want to get elected, and anything that
Speaker 3: stands in my way is a quote threat to democracy.
Speaker 3: They don't actually want that. They don't actually want real
Speaker 3: democracy if it elects Republicans. What they want is Democrats
Speaker 3: to be in power forever. And by the way, this
Speaker 3: is intimately connected to their lawlessness on the southern border,
Speaker 3: because the reason they've allowed seven point six million illegal
Speaker 3: immigrants into the country is because they want to subvert
Speaker 3: democracy by getting them to vote for Democrats and keep
Speaker 3: Democrats in power.
Speaker 1: Sindri I also think we should bring up in the
Speaker 1: Newsweek article it says that if you voted for Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: the government will track you.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right.
Speaker 3: And in June of this year, the FBI and the
Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security filed a joint report with Congress.
Speaker 3: And what they say in that joint report is they say, quote,
Speaker 3: threats from domestic violent extremists have increased in the last
Speaker 3: two years, and any further increases in threats likely will
Speaker 3: correspond to potential flash points such as high profile elections
Speaker 3: and campaigns or contentious current events.
Speaker 2: So they're saying terrorists.
Speaker 3: Are associated with high profile elections, and just to make
Speaker 3: sure there's no ambiguity that they're not talking about Antifa,
Speaker 3: they're not talking about left wing terrorists. They are focused
Speaker 3: on Republicans. Here's what the report concludes. Quote socio political
Speaker 3: developments such as narratives of fraud in the recent general election,
Speaker 3: conditions related to the COVID nineteen pandemic, and conspiracy theories
Speaker 3: promoting violence will almost certainly spur some domestic terrorists to
Speaker 3: try to.
Speaker 2: Engage in violence.
Speaker 3: Now, everything they list there they associate with Republicans, and
Speaker 3: notice they say COVID. So if you don't like lockdowns,
Speaker 3: you're a terrorist. If you don't like forced maskings, you're
Speaker 3: a terrorist. If you don't like vaccine mandates, you're a terrorist.
Speaker 3: If you're concerned about the potential health negative effects of
Speaker 3: forced vaccines, of the COVID vaccines, you're a terrorist.
Speaker 2: That is the narrative. Anyone that disagrees with the regime.
Speaker 3: They now define as a violent extremist, And amazingly enough,
Speaker 3: left wing violence in their narrative doesn't exist. So black
Speaker 3: lives matter, not a word about them, Antifa, not a
Speaker 3: word about them. The efforts targeting Look, we've got now
Speaker 3: violent riots that are playing out right now in cities
Speaker 3: like Philadelphia where they're ransacking and looting stores where they're
Speaker 3: attacking police officers.
Speaker 2: That is not violent extremism. If you're a.
Speaker 3: Leftist, that's okay, that's wonderful, that is beautiful social protests
Speaker 3: to burn American cities. But yet, if you're if you
Speaker 3: don't want to see America locked down again on COVID,
Speaker 3: clearly you're a terrorist.
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Speaker 1: think we should give it a quick update on that
Speaker 1: speakership and the House vote kind of risen to the
Speaker 1: top at this point. He said he's willing to be
Speaker 1: the speaker that would be. And if you missed our
Speaker 1: interview with him, a two part series on the on
Speaker 1: the Hunter Byden Investigation, go back and listen to it.
Speaker 1: He's phenomenal on this issue. Talk about the timeline now
Speaker 1: of when we expect the House side to take this up,
Speaker 1: of deciding again who's going to be the Speaker.
Speaker 3: Well, my understanding is the House is going to vote
Speaker 3: on speaker next week and then I expect it to
Speaker 3: be a roller coaster ride. I mean, you remember back
Speaker 3: in January we had a roller coaster ride of over
Speaker 3: a dozen different ballots before Kevin mc carthy was elected Speaker,
Speaker 3: and it was very narrow. It may well be a
Speaker 3: similar battle at this point. There's several contenders that are
Speaker 3: talking about running. Two have announced publicly. One is Steve Scalise.
Speaker 3: Steve Scalise is the majority leader, was Kevin McCarthy's number two.
Speaker 3: Steve is generally perceived to be more conservative than McCarthy,
Speaker 3: and so Steve is running as the candidate that can
Speaker 3: unify both the moderates in the Republican Conference and also
Speaker 3: some of the Conservatives. A second candidate who's running, as
Speaker 3: you noted as Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan was one of
Speaker 3: the original founders of the Freedom of Cacaucus. He is
Speaker 3: a prominent and well known conservative. The media is deeply
Speaker 3: skeptical of Jim Jordan, and they say he's too conservative
Speaker 3: to get elected and the moderates will never support him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 3: There is also discussion that Kevin Hearn, who is a
Speaker 3: Republican from Oklahoma, that he may run.
Speaker 2: Kevin is a good man.
Speaker 3: It's not clear if he will, although there have been
Speaker 3: reports that he's telling other Republicans he's looking at the
Speaker 3: race seriously. And then there's been some chatter that Chip
Speaker 3: Roy might run. I don't know if Chip will.
Speaker 2: Run or not.
Speaker 3: At this point, neither Kevin nor Chip are in the race,
Speaker 3: but next week they might both be in the race.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if yet another Republican might jump in.
Speaker 3: So I think it will be vigorously contested. I'm sure
Speaker 3: there is a lot of horse trading going on right now.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of negotiations going on right now. What's
Speaker 3: striking is that each of the potential candidates went and
Speaker 3: met with the Texas delegation. The reason they met with
Speaker 3: the Texas delegation is Texas is the largest contingent of
Speaker 3: House Republicans and so you've got the biggest block of votes,
Speaker 3: particularly if the Texas Delegation votes together. It's not clear
Speaker 3: that they will, but they might, and so at this
Speaker 3: point I don't know what will happen. My intention is
Speaker 3: to stay out of it and to leave leadership elections
Speaker 3: to House Republicans. But the answer as to who comes
Speaker 3: out of it is going to matter quite a bit,
Speaker 3: and so we will certainly watch with interest and continue
Speaker 3: to provide the best analysis we can.
Speaker 1: One of the things I've heard over the last twenty
Speaker 1: four to forty eight hours center is there are people
Speaker 1: that love Jim Jordan, but they don't want to lose
Speaker 1: him on this investigation of Hunter Biden, and they're afraid
Speaker 1: that if you became the speak expertise, is that something
Speaker 1: that should be a concern or could he still continue
Speaker 1: to do both or have more power as a speaker?
Speaker 3: Well, look, there's no doubt that the Speaker is by
Speaker 3: far the most powerful player in the House, and the
Speaker 3: Speaker of the House has enormous institutional authority. The questions
Speaker 3: of what is the best role for each of the
Speaker 3: Republicans in the House are going to be questions that
Speaker 3: the House members are going to have to decide. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure if that's a question being asked about Jim Jordan,
Speaker 3: I imagine Jim will be answering that question to his colleagues,
Speaker 3: and I expect a whole lot of conversations on between
Speaker 3: all the House Republicans throughout this weekend and throughout next week,
Speaker 3: and my guess is we'll see multiple ballots and we'll
Speaker 3: see what ultimately comes up.
Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting. We're going to cover
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