1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: with you, Senator, I cannot believe that I'm going to 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: start Verdict by saying this. But apparently Joe Biden is 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: going to build the wall, and I'm talking about the 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: wall with Mexico. This was announced very you know, nonchalant, 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: no big deal, and see it in is losing their 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: minds over this. I want to play that in a second, 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: but first I want to get your initial reaction to this. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: Well, it in News of the Weird. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: You know, have Joe Biden standing up promising to build 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: the wall. I'm waiting for him to grab a red 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Maga hat, put it on, and and and and explain 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: that that AOC is going to pay for it. It 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: is truly loopy stuff. To cut to the conclusion, I 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: don't actually believe him. I think this is this is 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: make believe, This is trying to pretend they're responding to 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the border crisis. But but but here Playhouse CNN covers 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: it because it really does show that even as media 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 3: cheerleaders are calling BS on this. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: Biden is building the wall, at least part of it. 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: This is something he said he would not do. The 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 4: Biden administration announced it will waive twenty six federal laws 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: to allow border wall construction in South Texas because of 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: what they call an acute and immediate knee. The plan 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: is to construct up to twenty miles of new border 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: barriers in Star County. That's in the Rio Grande Valley area. 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: Some two hundred and forty five thousand migrants have attempted 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: to cross the border illegally in just that one sector 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: since October of last year. On the entire border there, 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: the number is closer to three million. Hundreds of migrants 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: rush pass border control agents near El Paso yesterday. So 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: when he was running for president, Biden made clear that 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: he would not expand the border wall if elected. 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: Come campaigned on build that wall. 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: Are you willing to tear that wall down? 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Now? 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 6: There will not be another foot of wall construct it 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 6: on my administration. The President also said today that former 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 6: presidents have said to him that they. 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 7: Wish that they had built a wall. 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: Do you recall President Obama were saying that. 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 6: I can't think of a single one who said that 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: we need border security, but that's not the border security 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 6: we need. 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: And on the day he took office, President biden'signed a 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: proclamation stating that, quote building a massive wall that spans 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 4: the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: that we should know. Today's action does not do that. 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: It's a twenty mile section. Nevertheless, it is very different 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: than what President Biden campaigned on. 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Senator, I love CNN here because they're like 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: owning Joe Biden. They never fact check in this way 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: because this is how much they hate the idea of 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: a wall. They can't stand that he's quote flip flopping. 55 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: And this is when it's fun to be a conservative. 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: You can just sit back and watch them burn him 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: down on this. I also think that part about this 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: that needs to be put in perspective, because you've been 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: to the border probably more than any other senator in history. 60 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Is twenty miles as great, but it's not near as 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: much as we actually need. 62 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and from the announcement, they're putting it 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: down in the Rio Grand Valley in Star County, and 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: that's valuable. That's an area of very high traffic. So 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: that is beneficial. If they actually follow through and build 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: that section of the wall, that's beneficial. 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: But here's the important thing to understand. 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: You can build a wall on the entirety of the 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: border and it will not stop illegal immigration unless, unless, 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: unless you have an administration that will follow the law 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: and deport the people who come here illegally. So when 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm down at the border, almost without exception, I sit down, 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: I meet with the border patrol agents, I meet with ICE, 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: I meet with sheriffs, I meet with local police and 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: local law enforcement, and I try to listen. I try 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: to ask them, Okay, what tools do you need, how 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: do you actually secure the the border? 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: Now? Without exception, they say they need a wall, that 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: a wall is beneficial, but understand that a wall alone 80 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: doesn't solve the problem. And why is that. 81 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: Well, there's the old line that if you build a 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: ten foot wall, someone brings an eleven foot ladder. And 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: what law enforcement on the border tells me is that's true, 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: that people bring ladders, they get over the wall, that 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: they get around the wall. That the wall is not 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: the complete solution. The reason a wall is valuable is 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: what is critical if you're trying to stop illegal immigration 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: is the time between detection and apprehension. And what a 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: wall does is it slows people down. It takes longer 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: to get over a wall to get around a wall 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: that if there's no wall, And in particular, a wall 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: is valuable in more urban environments where there's there's not 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: much space between the border and disappearing into a heavily 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: populated area, So they're parts of rugged West Texas where 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: you've got really tough to and a wall, frankly is 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: not that useful in an area where the terrain is 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: already a natural barrier. But if you're dealing with a 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: portion of the border that is by a heavily populated 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: area and an illegal immigrant is able to cross and 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: suddenly disappear into the city, that's where a wall is 101 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: really valuable. But even when the wall is built, what 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: you have to have is an administration willing to deport 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: the people they apprehend, and what Joe Biden is not 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: willing to do is to end catch and release. 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That's the headline that they wanted. And yet 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned catch and release. It's been a while and 143 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: for many people to understand the border issue. They'll understand that, 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that are listening center 145 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: that may understand the policy. There was a different policy 146 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: under the Trump administration when it come to catching release, 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and immediately the administration said we're not doing that anymore. 148 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Can you explain why that loophole has, how dangerous it 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: is and also how many people it's allowed to come 150 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: this country. We're talking about millions because of a simple 151 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: policy decision, and if he changed that, that would do 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: more than building twenty miles of a wall. 153 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Correct, that's exactly right. And you know I would point 154 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: listeners back. 155 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: You and I did a podcast a number of months 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: ago down on the southern border and we interviewed Brandon Judd. 157 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: Brandon Judd is the head of the National Border Patrol Union. 158 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: He's a good friend, and that's the union of all 159 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: the border patrol agents, the men and women risking their 160 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: lives to secure the border. And we sat down we 161 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: were down to the Rio Grande Valley with Brandon and 162 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: we sat down with him and interviewed him by the border. 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: And one of the things Brandon said that a lot 164 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: of people don't realize, but it was striking. He said, 165 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: to secure the border, to fix this problem, he said, 166 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: we don't need any more money. He said, we don't 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: even need more agents. Although more agents would help, he said, 168 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: that's not really what we need. 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: To secure the border. 170 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: He said, what we need is policy, a change in policy, 171 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: a change in executive policy. And it comes down to 172 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: one central question. When you apprehend an illegal immigrant, what 173 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: do you do with that illegal immigrant? Now? Under Donald Trump, 174 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: when they apprehended someone, they put him on a plane 175 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: and they flew him back to where he came from. 176 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: They deported him. That was critical. 177 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: And then on top of that, and I'll explain this 178 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: in a minute, was the remain in Mexico agreement, and 179 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: that together, those two together produced the lowest rate of 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: illegal immigration in forty five years. Biden literally his first 181 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: week in office, he reversed that. So now when they 182 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: catch someone, they'll give him a coordinate, typically several years 183 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: in the future, and then they'll ask him where do 184 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 3: you want to go in the meantime, And they'll say, 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: I want to go to New York City, I want 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: to go to Chicago, I want to go to Dallas, 187 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: I want to go to la And the Biden administration 188 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: will put him on a plane or put him on 189 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: a bus and send them to whatever city they're in. 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: And and in fact, you were just in New York. 191 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: You told me you were sitting next to an illegal 192 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: immigrant who was flying on the plane to New York 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: with you. 194 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the plane was filled with them. It was it 195 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: was shocking. I texted you the picture. There was a 196 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: man sitting next to me. He had all of his 197 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: papers in a in a in a see through, you know, 198 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: kind of sheer plastic, you know, envelope, and he had 199 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: his red cross blanket that was with him. He had 200 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: his little knatsack that the US government gave him, he 201 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: had his cell phone and and I speak very little Spanish, 202 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: but I was able to communicate enough. I said, we're head. 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I've come and I've come to America 204 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: and they're now letting me go to New York City. 205 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, across the border and he said yes, 206 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: and he was very excited. You and I taxpayers paid 207 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: for that airline ticket. Uh, we paid for all the 208 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: stuff that he had with him that was you know, new. 209 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming there's a good chance that cell phone 210 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: he had was probably issued by the US government as well, 211 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: because they've been doing that. But he wasn't the only 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: one on that point. I mean, that was the first time. 213 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: There's part of me saying, yay, I'm glad that he's 214 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: going to New York City and not staying in Texas, 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: because that's what's going to end up fixing this problem. 216 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Is what we're seeing with the they call it, you know, 217 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: anarchy and chaos, and they can't handle the illegal immigrants. 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: But that was the first time I'd ever witnessed it, 219 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: sitting there knowing, Wow, I just paid for this guy 220 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: just broke into our country to go to wherever he 221 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go. And I witnessed it first hit of 222 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: a shocking to me when you're sitting next to it. 223 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: So and I understand that, and I've seen that many times, 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: particularly when you've got flights coming out of South Texas. 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: You can see half the flight or more filled with 226 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: illegal aliens that the Biden administration he is paying to 227 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: fly all over the country. 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: And that's happening day in day out. 229 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: By the way, that's not Greg Abbott, or as Eric 230 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: Adams calls him, that madman in Texas busting them to 231 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: New York. That's Joe Biden flying them to New York. 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: And that's happening day after day after day. But you know, 233 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: I will say, if you didn't listen to the podcast 234 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: we did with Brandon Judd, you ought to go go 235 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: back and listen to it because he explained that it 236 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 3: is the policy of catch and release that produces this 237 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: problem and Joe Biden does not intend to change catch 238 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: and release. And I mentioned remain in Mexico so remain 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: in Mexico was an agreement the Trump administration negotiated with 240 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: Mexico that said that when people crossed illegally into Mexico, 241 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: and many of them were coming from South America or 242 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: Central America, that they would remain in Mexico, that they'd 243 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: stay in Mexico while their US asylum case was proceeding. 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: And that worked incredibly well. That's what produced the lowest 245 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. Now, one 246 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: thing you said, Ben that I think is probably not 247 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: not the case. You said you thought that cell phone 248 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 3: likely was given to him by the federal government. That 249 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: probably is not the case because in my experience, virtually 250 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the illegal aliens crossing the border 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: have their own cell phone with them. It's one of 252 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: the few property items they carry. And it's why catch 253 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: and release is so pernicious, because what happens is they 254 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: get here, they turn themselves in, they go look for 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: a border patrol agent. They turn themselves in. The border 256 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: patrol agent ask, Okay, where do you want to go? 257 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: They say, I want to go to New York City. 258 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: They say great. They start processing them and then what 259 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: happens is the illegal immigrant they pick up their cell 260 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: phone and they call their friends, they call their family, 261 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: they call their buddies and say, hey, guess what if 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: you come here, you get to stay. And by the way, 263 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: when they let them go, the vast majority of these 264 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: people are never seen again. The court date is a 265 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: complete fiction. That is the source of the problem. And 266 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: Biden the same week he halted the border wall, the 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: same week he reinstated catch and release, that same week 268 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: he pulled out. It remain in Mexico that caused this crisis. 269 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: But I explain the remain in Mexico that the same 270 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: week he pulled out because people hear that, what did 271 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: that actually do? What did it mean? 272 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: So what it What it meant is is that asylum 273 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: cases would proceed, but they'd stay in Mexico. They would 274 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: not be allowed to come to America. They would stay 275 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: in that they had camps in Mexico just south of 276 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: our southern border where they'd stay while the asylum case proceeded. 277 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: But it meant they didn't get let go in America. 278 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: The critical thing about remain in Mexico is they were 279 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: not released in America, and so you didn't have the magnet. 280 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: You didn't have the pull effect, and so they'd call 281 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: home and they'd say, hey, don't come. I thought i'd 282 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: get to America. I got here, I got apprehended, and 283 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm stuck in Mexico. Damn, and I'm not in America. 284 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm in Mexico. This sucks. I'm not you know, don't come. 285 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: They've actually really secured the border. And by the way, 286 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: Trump leaned vigorously on the President of Mexico on it 287 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: MLO to force him to agree to remain in Mexico. Also, 288 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: he got the Mexican government to put six thousand troops 289 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: on their southern border. You know, the southern border of 290 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: Mexico is much much smaller. It's just a few hundred 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: miles as compared to our southern border that's two thousand miles. 292 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: And it's just obviously Mexico narrows as it goes into 293 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: Central America. The southern border of Mexico's much easier to 294 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: secure than our southern border because it's much smaller. That combination, 295 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: I want to contrast at the same AMLO that Trump, 296 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: by standing strong, was able to get to agree to 297 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: remain in Mexico. 298 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: When Joe Biden was president. 299 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: Let's go back to January of this year, January twenty 300 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: twenty three, where Joe Biden did a press conference with 301 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: Amlo and Amlo praised him for building being the first 302 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: president in recent history to build not even a single 303 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: meter of border wall. 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: Listen, President Biden, you are the first president. 305 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: Of the United States then has not built not even 306 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: one meter of wall. 307 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 8: And that. 308 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: We thank you for that, sir, although. 309 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: Not like it, although the conservatives don't like it. 310 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Now, Ben, I want you to listen carefully to what 311 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: Amlo said. 312 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: And amlo is is the nickname, it's the abbreviation for 313 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: the Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, that's the current 314 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: president of Mexico. 315 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: He's a hard leftist. 316 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: And what he said, which we just played and you 317 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: could hear him in the Spanish in the background and 318 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: then the female translator, but I want you to listen 319 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: to the words again. What he said is, you are 320 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: the first president of the United States in a very 321 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: long time that has not built even one meter of wall. 322 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: Neiun metro is what he said. 323 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: And he goes on to say, and we thank you 324 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: for that, sir, although some might not like it, although 325 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: the conservatives. 326 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: Don't like it. 327 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: And this entire time, AMLO's praising Biden for being the 328 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: first guy in a long time not to build wall, 329 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 3: including not Trump, not Obama, not Bush. Nope, Biden had 330 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: not built even one meter of wall. Biden is sitting 331 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: there grinning like some silly kid while he's allowing an 332 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: invasion of our country. The important thing to understand is 333 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: Biden still intends to allow the invasion of the country. 334 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 3: He just realized that building a little bit of wall 335 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: it is good camouflage to pretend that this is not 336 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: all his fault. 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, and let's back that up with facts and proof 338 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: of what you just said. The Biden administration has been 339 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: purposely cut out bob wire at the border to facilitate 340 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: more legal aliens into the United States of America. Now 341 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: this it was caught on video, reported on video on 342 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: Fox News Channel. 343 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 8: Take a listen now at Eagle Pass in Texas. Our 344 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 8: drone is up in the air again and this picture 345 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 8: has not gotten better. We've watched this now for ten days. 346 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 8: The state of Texas has put that barbed wire, the 347 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: Concertina wire down to block migrants or to dissuade them 348 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 8: from crossing the Rio Grande River. It's been mildly successful, 349 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 8: but every time you see this, you get a back 350 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 8: up on the banks of that river, and the White 351 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 8: House puts a phone call in the border patrol and 352 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 8: they cut that wire and then you see the line move. 353 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: And then in the. 354 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 5: Sanate of Texas, the leadership of Texas and the White 355 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: House and the people in Texas largely have to deal 356 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: with it. You know, one hundred thousand in New York 357 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 5: is just you know, a very small number compared to 358 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: what they've had to deal with in Texas. So it 359 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 5: is in a stop Douatian. Plus you have all these 360 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: children who have been brought here by human traffickers and 361 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: the cartel basically in charge of the operations. 362 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 8: On and on it goes, and the federal government repeatedly 363 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 8: challenges the state of Texas when they try and impede 364 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 8: the crossing or the passing of those into that from 365 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 8: the drone an egle pass Texas. 366 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Senator, you can hear it there, Martha McCallum, 367 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Bill Himmer. They're watching this on TV. They're laughing at 368 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the idea that now you have a presence saying got 369 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: to build this wall, but we're cutting down the bob 370 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: wire to let people in. We're fighting with Texas saying 371 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: you cannot secure the border. But then we bring an 372 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: announcement saying we're going to secure twenty miles of the 373 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: border and the rest of it. I guess they're going 374 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: to keep cutting down bob wire. This is literally the 375 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: definition of total insanity. Or they're just straight up lying 376 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: to the American people, as you reference earlier, to play 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: kate to these liberal mayors in places like New York 378 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: that are freaking out they have one hundred thousand, Well 379 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: guess what, Wait till you get a million, and then 380 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: see what you do. 381 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 382 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: No, look, that's exactly right. The Biden administration wants illegal immigration. 383 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: They want more of it. They want the numbers. Right 384 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: now it's seven point six million, it's the highest in ever. 385 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: They want it to grow to ten, to fifteen, to 386 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: twenty million because they look at these illegal immigrants as 387 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: future Democrat voters. 388 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: They want open borders. So you're right. 389 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: The state of Texas is putting barguire up trying to 390 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: secure the border, and the Biden administration sends people in 391 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: to cut it down, to open it up. So that 392 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: the illegal immigrants can come faster. The Biden Department of 393 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Justice is suing the State of Texas trying to stop 394 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: the State of Texas from putting barriers on the border. 395 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Alejandro Mayorcis, they want 396 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: to accelerate illegal immigration. And understand this about may orcus 397 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: He views doing his job well as get more efficient, 398 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: getting faster in processing illegal immigrants, so that they shrink 399 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: the time and make it even quicker and quicker and 400 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: quicker to move illegal immigrants into the interior. 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Mexico 438 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: seems to be reading the political tea leaves here as well, 439 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: Centaer and this is very concerning from a national security 440 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: standpoint because a couple of years ago, for several years 441 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: in a row, and I haven't seen the most recent 442 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: numbers for this year, but the number one stimulus of 443 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: Mexico's economy was the legal immigrants in America. Sending money 444 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: back to Mexico is outpacing oil production, to put it 445 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: in perspective in Mexico, and so every person they get 446 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: across the border that ends up sending money back to 447 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Mexico and not draining the resource in Mexico, that's a 448 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: net gain financially for Mexico is a nation. What we're 449 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: now seeing, and part of this could be because of 450 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: the rhetoric changing from the White House is apparently from 451 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: what's being reported, Mexico is now busting people to the 452 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: border to come into America. Take a listen to this 453 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: from Fox. 454 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 7: Mexican government initiative that's likely going to complicate the migrant 455 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 7: crisis at least here in the US. Authorities there have 456 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 7: begun bussing migrants from the southern part of Mexico north. 457 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: Towards the US. 458 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 7: This is an attempt by Mexico to free of existing 459 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 7: public transportation that's currently being overwhelmed by the estimated six 460 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 7: thousand who crossed into Mexico each day. 461 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you hear that that's shocking on its face 462 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: as well. 463 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: Well it is, And understand this is caused by Joe 464 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: Biden's weakness. MLO doesn't respect Joe Biden. He thinks he's 465 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: an incredibly weak commander in chief. You know, we played 466 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: earlier a snippet from the joint press conference they had 467 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: in January where Amlo is looking at him and is 468 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: able to walk all over him and listen. Amelo is 469 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: a hard leftist. 470 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: He campaigned and got elected in part running on an 471 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: anti American agenda. But when he came in, Donald Trump 472 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: was president and Amlo was scared of Trump. He didn't 473 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: want to mess with Trump. And so ironically, this hard leftist, 474 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: anti American Mexican president cooperated And remember the way remain 475 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: in Mexico got signed is Trump threatened to put in 476 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: place a twenty five percent tariff on all goods coming 477 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: from Mexico. 478 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: That threat scared the hell. 479 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: Out of Amlow, which is why he knuckled under and 480 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: agreed to remain in Mexico. He didn't do so eagerly, 481 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: but he was afraid that Trump was just crazy enough 482 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: that he would put those tariffs in place. The difference 483 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: now is Biden's so weak that Amlo he's getting even 484 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: further left, more anti American, and he's deliberately fueling this 485 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: invasion at our southern border and the dynamic and by. 486 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: The way, even Eric Adams. 487 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: So Eric Adams has been getting some praise lately for 488 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: having the courage to say illegal immigration is destroying New 489 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: York City. Well this week Eric Adams still said, well, 490 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: we want open borders. 491 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: Understand what I'm saying. 492 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: We want open borders, we just want a process to 493 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: deal with it. Basically, what he's saying is give us money. 494 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: If the Feds will give us the money, we'll take 495 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: these illegal immigrants and just give them billions of dollars. 496 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: We just don't have the cash to cover it. But 497 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: I think what happened is Adams was getting grief from 498 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 3: his left flank, and he felt the need this week 499 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: to say, look, understand, I'm a Democrat, I'm four open borders, 500 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: but this is a real problem. This week's announcement about 501 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: the border wall is essentially press damage control from Biden. 502 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is is exactly that, and like you said, 503 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: it's probably an empty promise. And watch the media. They 504 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: will pound him on this issue to make sure it 505 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I also want to get your take on 506 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: a headline that's really exploded while we've been taping this 507 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: right now, and that deals with there is now intel 508 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: that shows that Maga Republicans, Donald Trump's supporters, will be 509 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: targeted by the FBI as the twenty twenty four election nears. 510 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: Newsweek is now reporting on this and Biden to go 511 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: back tweeted in September of last year quote Donald Trump 512 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: and Maga Republicans are a threat to the very soul 513 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: of this country. The very soul of this country. Chris 514 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: the FBI director, Chrisopher Ray and sworn testimony, said it's 515 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: not just Trump supporters. Early this year, he said, House 516 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: Republicans say the FBI document that they've obtained proved that 517 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: several filled offices contributed to a memo that targeted traditional Catholics. 518 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: We talked about this extensively on this show as potential 519 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: terrorists and tried to turn parishioners on their fellow church goers. 520 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: So if you just look at the last year, parents 521 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: who show up at school board meetings are to be 522 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: labeled domestic terrorists. The FBI was spending time recruiting people 523 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: in the Catholic church to spy on their friends and family. 524 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: And now we are being told that heading into the 525 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election that if you are a Donald 526 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Trump follower supporter, that you may be now monitored or 527 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: targeted by the FBI. 528 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, and part of the challenge heare, like, 529 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: for example, you focused on the FBI's targeting of traditional Catholics, 530 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: which they rightly got enormous grief because they were talking 531 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: about infiltrating Catholic churches and trying to get priests to 532 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: spy on their parishioners and and and become FBI informants 533 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: to inform on the members of their church. So initially 534 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: the FBI said, oh, that was a rogue office down 535 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: in Richmond, Virginia. It's not a broader problem now that 536 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: they've admitted that it was multiple offices that participated in 537 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: that this was a much broader effort to target traditional 538 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: Catholics and and and the same is true, uh with 539 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: with the targeting of Donald Trump supporters. You know, even 540 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: this language, so you can tell someone did a focus 541 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: group on the Democrat side and they discovered the phrase 542 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: maga Republican. They're going to brand that that like magi 543 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: by the way, maga republican and their definition they mean everybody. 544 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: They literally mean every Republican is a maga Republican. And 545 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: then and then they just think the word maga is 546 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: really scary, and they claim that that if you are 547 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: a maga Republican is defined as a Republican who voted 548 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: for Donald So you know, seventy five to eighty million 549 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: Americans are defined, according to this White House as potential terrorists, 550 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: as threats to democracy. 551 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: And this is how Democrats have become radicalized. 552 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: They now say if you dare vote against Democrats, you 553 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: are a threat to democracy. Just understand, every time Democrats 554 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: use the word democracy, what they mean is me, I'm 555 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: a Democrat. I want to get elected, and anything that 556 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: stands in my way is a quote threat to democracy. 557 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: They don't actually want that. They don't actually want real 558 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: democracy if it elects Republicans. What they want is Democrats 559 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: to be in power forever. And by the way, this 560 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: is intimately connected to their lawlessness on the southern border, 561 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: because the reason they've allowed seven point six million illegal 562 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: immigrants into the country is because they want to subvert 563 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: democracy by getting them to vote for Democrats and keep 564 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: Democrats in power. 565 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: Sindri I also think we should bring up in the 566 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: Newsweek article it says that if you voted for Donald Trump, 567 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: the government will track you. 568 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's right. 569 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: And in June of this year, the FBI and the 570 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security filed a joint report with Congress. 571 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: And what they say in that joint report is they say, quote, 572 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: threats from domestic violent extremists have increased in the last 573 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: two years, and any further increases in threats likely will 574 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: correspond to potential flash points such as high profile elections 575 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: and campaigns or contentious current events. 576 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: So they're saying terrorists. 577 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: Are associated with high profile elections, and just to make 578 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: sure there's no ambiguity that they're not talking about Antifa, 579 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: they're not talking about left wing terrorists. They are focused 580 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: on Republicans. Here's what the report concludes. Quote socio political 581 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: developments such as narratives of fraud in the recent general election, 582 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: conditions related to the COVID nineteen pandemic, and conspiracy theories 583 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: promoting violence will almost certainly spur some domestic terrorists to 584 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: try to. 585 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: Engage in violence. 586 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: Now, everything they list there they associate with Republicans, and 587 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: notice they say COVID. So if you don't like lockdowns, 588 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: you're a terrorist. If you don't like forced maskings, you're 589 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 3: a terrorist. If you don't like vaccine mandates, you're a terrorist. 590 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: If you're concerned about the potential health negative effects of 591 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: forced vaccines, of the COVID vaccines, you're a terrorist. 592 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: That is the narrative. Anyone that disagrees with the regime. 593 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: They now define as a violent extremist, And amazingly enough, 594 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: left wing violence in their narrative doesn't exist. So black 595 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: lives matter, not a word about them, Antifa, not a 596 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: word about them. 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And if you missed our 637 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: interview with him, a two part series on the on 638 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: the Hunter Byden Investigation, go back and listen to it. 639 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: He's phenomenal on this issue. Talk about the timeline now 640 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: of when we expect the House side to take this up, 641 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: of deciding again who's going to be the Speaker. 642 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: Well, my understanding is the House is going to vote 643 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: on speaker next week and then I expect it to 644 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: be a roller coaster ride. I mean, you remember back 645 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 3: in January we had a roller coaster ride of over 646 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: a dozen different ballots before Kevin mc carthy was elected Speaker, 647 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: and it was very narrow. It may well be a 648 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: similar battle at this point. There's several contenders that are 649 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 3: talking about running. Two have announced publicly. One is Steve Scalise. 650 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: Steve Scalise is the majority leader, was Kevin McCarthy's number two. 651 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 3: Steve is generally perceived to be more conservative than McCarthy, 652 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: and so Steve is running as the candidate that can 653 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: unify both the moderates in the Republican Conference and also 654 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: some of the Conservatives. A second candidate who's running, as 655 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: you noted as Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan was one of 656 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: the original founders of the Freedom of Cacaucus. He is 657 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 3: a prominent and well known conservative. The media is deeply 658 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: skeptical of Jim Jordan, and they say he's too conservative 659 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: to get elected and the moderates will never support him. 660 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not. 661 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: There is also discussion that Kevin Hearn, who is a 662 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: Republican from Oklahoma, that he may run. 663 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: Kevin is a good man. 664 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: It's not clear if he will, although there have been 665 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: reports that he's telling other Republicans he's looking at the 666 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: race seriously. And then there's been some chatter that Chip 667 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 3: Roy might run. I don't know if Chip will. 668 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: Run or not. 669 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: At this point, neither Kevin nor Chip are in the race, 670 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: but next week they might both be in the race. 671 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: And I don't know if yet another Republican might jump in. 672 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 3: So I think it will be vigorously contested. I'm sure 673 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: there is a lot of horse trading going on right now. 674 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot of negotiations going on right now. What's 675 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: striking is that each of the potential candidates went and 676 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: met with the Texas delegation. The reason they met with 677 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: the Texas delegation is Texas is the largest contingent of 678 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: House Republicans and so you've got the biggest block of votes, 679 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: particularly if the Texas Delegation votes together. It's not clear 680 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: that they will, but they might, and so at this 681 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: point I don't know what will happen. My intention is 682 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 3: to stay out of it and to leave leadership elections 683 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 3: to House Republicans. But the answer as to who comes 684 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: out of it is going to matter quite a bit, 685 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 3: and so we will certainly watch with interest and continue 686 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 3: to provide the best analysis we can. 687 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: One of the things I've heard over the last twenty 688 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: four to forty eight hours center is there are people 689 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: that love Jim Jordan, but they don't want to lose 690 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: him on this investigation of Hunter Biden, and they're afraid 691 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: that if you became the speak expertise, is that something 692 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: that should be a concern or could he still continue 693 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: to do both or have more power as a speaker? 694 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 3: Well, look, there's no doubt that the Speaker is by 695 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: far the most powerful player in the House, and the 696 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: Speaker of the House has enormous institutional authority. The questions 697 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: of what is the best role for each of the 698 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: Republicans in the House are going to be questions that 699 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: the House members are going to have to decide. And 700 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure if that's a question being asked about Jim Jordan, 701 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: I imagine Jim will be answering that question to his colleagues, 702 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: and I expect a whole lot of conversations on between 703 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 3: all the House Republicans throughout this weekend and throughout next week, 704 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: and my guess is we'll see multiple ballots and we'll 705 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: see what ultimately comes up. 706 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting. 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