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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith State

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Speaker 1: is that? Woo woo?

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Speaker 3: And Dan and Tye, Dan Rubinstein Week thirteen, just about

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Speaker 3: in the books my good friend out there in the heart.

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Speaker 4: Of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois, Big ten country, get to

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Speaker 4: that end a little bit. Did you not refer to

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Speaker 4: this as shatter Day?

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Speaker 2: I did, Tye, and it was mostly before the goof

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Speaker 2: for the pun, not necessarily for my belief that the

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Speaker 2: angel of death was going to rain down blood on

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Speaker 2: college football teams aspiring to get at large bids for

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Speaker 2: the college football Playoff, potentially based in the southern portion

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Speaker 1: But here we are, ty Here we are Dan. Shatterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, we have a lot to discuss. To those

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Speaker 4: of you listening live watching along at home, we appreciate

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Speaker 4: you staying up late with us. For those of you

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Speaker 4: we've got a lot to discuss. We're going to order

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Speaker 4: this episode by conference. It feels like that's really the

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Speaker 4: only way to tell the story of Week thirteen, by

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Speaker 4: emerged there of course as well. It was definitely a

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Speaker 4: jam packed weekend. As you mentioned, there was clearly chaos

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Speaker 4: We had, obviously the big game of the day. We

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Speaker 4: did a long stream for the Indiana Ohio State game

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Speaker 4: being what we would classify as a nail bider, but

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Speaker 4: there were other games in the Big Ten, notably Penn

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Speaker 1: Now on the backside.

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Speaker 4: Of Week thirteen, Dan, what was your I guess lasting

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Speaker 4: impression from what we saw. So we did the long

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Speaker 4: was as a college football fan, it's like sort of

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Speaker 1: These are the.

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Speaker 4: Weekends that I think make college football special because we

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Speaker 4: came into it with one big headliner, one big Top

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Speaker 4: five matchup, and some other games that Okay, you had

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Speaker 4: are there any upsets lurking?

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Speaker 1: Sure, what's lurking out there? Why should I watch for

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Speaker 4: And college football proved again, if nothing more flawed as

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Speaker 4: it may be, it still has weeks like this in

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look, it's late in the season, teams are as

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Speaker 2: I think the SEC is the right place most start.

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Speaker 4: We had Alabama number seven, Ole Miss number nine, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, score not exactly indicative unless I've received some sort

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Speaker 4: Two hundred and thirty four yards for Alabama. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: If it is indeed true.

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Speaker 4: If it is indeed true, I don't know where things

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Speaker 4: Being so, Alabama has three losses. Old Miss also now

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Speaker 1: I want to give credit.

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Speaker 4: Where it's due to Florida, please, because Florida now has

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Speaker 4: They came up empty on three trips inside the red zone.

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Speaker 1: This foy I did just watching him. It was rough.

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Speaker 4: I really felt bad for him because it was clear

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Speaker 4: He throws another pick, which is ruled incomplete. Meanwhile he's

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Speaker 2: it's missed opportunities. It's ole Miss didn't have it seemed

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Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned it right. It's when we talk

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Speaker 2: And ole Miss was just I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: That it was just one thing going wrong after the next,

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Speaker 2: And that's a tough fought win for the Gators at

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Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit.

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Speaker 4: Oh missed now by the way, also with three losses,

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be in this thing. Somebody's got to

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Speaker 4: And that was part of the equation that we were

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Speaker 4: This was a game in which Auburn came out like

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Speaker 1: They make theirs.

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Speaker 2: So this is an Auburn team that loses far in

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Speaker 2: turnovers and why are you bringing up old stuff? Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hit him in the hand. Hit

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Speaker 1: I want to know where the A and M defense

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Speaker 2: This is the defense that had been getting better over

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Speaker 4: Because all of the guys that Auburn has that can

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Speaker 2: This was part of why that was the joke right

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Speaker 4: Let's go to the Big Ten, please, Because the big

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, I think that's all correct. It's Ohio State

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Speaker 2: Depending on your feelings about reincarnation and right will you

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Speaker 2: an incredible performance from Ohio State upfront, who looked like

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Speaker 1: And I agree.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think two things could be true at once.

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Speaker 4: I thought they did, all things considered, a pretty good job.

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Speaker 4: Should it harm Indiana's playoff chances at all. I would argue,

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Speaker 2: Especially in that moment, perhaps in the moment the totality

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Speaker 4: Yeah, given that we saw those three losses on the

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Speaker 1: They should fall in the standings. But I think by.

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Speaker 4: The end of the conversation here, Indiana is still probably

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Speaker 1: I think likely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think given that you're gonna start comparing them

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Speaker 2: we'll see Georgia has Georgia Tech, who likes making things weird?

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Speaker 2: have your own corners get called for PI. You can't

441
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Speaker 2: commit PI if you get sacked before a quarterback throws it,

442
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: you can get defensive holding, of course. Yeah, but that's

443
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: a nice little solution to some early over aggression from

444
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: Ohio State corners or namely Iggy one corner. And I

445
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 2: just I came away thoroughly impressed with Ohio State and

446
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: still impressed with Indiana, especially on defense and the Indiana

447
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: run game I think exposed a little bit in terms

448
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: of maybe some over aggression at times or not staying

449
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: gap sound up front for Ohio State on defense. But

450
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Speaker 2: you knew that wasn't going to last.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was going to last.

452
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Speaker 4: And by the way, by the time they started doing that, yeah,

453
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: it was pretty much ballgame.

454
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Speaker 2: They would they needed to connect more consistently through the

455
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Speaker 2: air if they had any chance, and they just didn't

456
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Speaker 2: have literally did that. Didn't have a chance, They didn't

457
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Speaker 2: have these seconds to do it.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you weren't going to come down from at that

459
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Speaker 4: point twenty one points whatever. It was running the football,

460
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 4: not against Ohio State, but again thirty eight to fifteen,

461
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Speaker 4: your final score. Let's go to Penn State and Minnesota.

462
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Speaker 4: My god, Dan, my.

463
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: God, Yeah, this is what Penn State does. I made a.

464
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Speaker 4: Penn State Minnesota video that we posted on all of

465
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Speaker 4: our social media accounts. We've been doing these vertical videos

466
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: because that's yea more ways for people to find you.

467
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 4: I guess that's explaining to the kids. Yeah, that's what

468
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: they tell us. More people can find you that way.

469
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Speaker 4: We made this video posted it to the social feeds

470
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Speaker 4: last week talking about this is twenty five year anniversary

471
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Speaker 4: ish of the nineteen ninety nine upset of number two

472
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Speaker 4: then number two Penn State by unranked Minnesota. This is

473
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Speaker 4: when Minnesota came.

474
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Speaker 1: To State College.

475
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Speaker 4: They hit on a fourth and sixteen sort of miracle

476
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Speaker 4: tip drill play end up kicking a field goal at

477
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Speaker 4: the gun from thirty two yards to win.

478
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Speaker 2: We had a lot of notes that were like mcpappy

479
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Speaker 2: and mcgraham, Pepy were never the same.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was great. Some of them died that day.

481
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 4: I've never seen a grown man in tears like I

482
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Speaker 4: did that day.

483
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Speaker 1: He was never the same.

484
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Speaker 4: Stuff like that. Okay, Uh, It's not just the nineteen

485
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Speaker 4: ninety nine game. There have been other instances one in

486
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Speaker 4: two twenty twenty nineteen. There have been other instances where

487
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: Minnesota plays Penn State tight, where Minnesota finds a way

488
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: to ruin Penn State season. Penn State was lucky to

489
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Speaker 4: get out alive, lucky to get out of Minneapolis alive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as most people are.

491
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Speaker 4: I like Minneapolis. No, I was kidding, Minneapolis is glorious. Yeah,

492
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: Penn State survives a block punt. They survive a blocked

493
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Speaker 4: extra point that was returned for two, which is how

494
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 4: you knew things were going to be weird. The nine

495
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Speaker 4: points in total that came with PJ.

496
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Speaker 2: Fleck like pointing the direction for the returners, like, no,

497
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Speaker 2: that's that's the way to go, Like, thanks coach, thank

498
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Speaker 2: you so much.

499
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Speaker 1: I thought that.

500
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Speaker 4: Minnesota played while enough to win this game, and you

501
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: could debate whether or not PJ. Fleck lost another one

502
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Speaker 4: for him. They had an opportunity here. They were in

503
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: this game, they were at home. They had Penn State

504
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: on the ropes. I think Penn State came on and

505
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: got better the deeper the game went. Early on, they

506
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: had a hard time connecting with Tyler Warren, sort of

507
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Speaker 4: the point that we had made on a previous episode,

508
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Speaker 4: like if you face up against a good physical defense,

509
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Speaker 4: it knows how to take him away to some extent,

510
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: what does that mean for the rest of the offense.

511
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Speaker 4: Early on, they couldn't really figure that out. As they

512
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Speaker 4: got into the second half, they started involving Nick Singleton

513
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Speaker 4: a little bit more in the run game. They started

514
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Speaker 4: getting Tyler Warren a little bit more involved in the

515
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Speaker 4: passing attack.

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Speaker 1: In a weird way, despite the fact.

517
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Speaker 4: That this was Dan Muirl loss for Penn State, this

518
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: kind of felt like growth to me because they couldn't

519
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: rely on the gadget plays. Minnesota did a really good

520
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: job scoping those out. They needed to lean on another guy,

521
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Speaker 4: even o Mauri Evans. He was open a couple times

522
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Speaker 4: Deep caught a touchdown earlier in this game, and Drew

523
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: Aller I thought showed some growth.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially late in that one with the throw that

525
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Speaker 1: I iced it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought again, he had a pretty good game

527
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Speaker 4: all things considered. So this is one of those games where,

528
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: like sort of the word of the story of twenty

529
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: twenty four in college football, nobody is bulletproof and everybody

530
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: has seemingly had games just like this. Penn State is

531
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Speaker 4: going to take its clunker win and they're gonna happily

532
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Speaker 4: move on to next week against beryln They're probably going

533
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Speaker 4: to host a home playoff game as a result of this.

534
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: I just the feeling in the pit of my stomach

535
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Speaker 4: right now. If you forget the fact that I'm a

536
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: Penn State grad and I root for the team. If

537
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Speaker 4: I were a Minnesota fan, I would be sick to

538
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Speaker 4: my stomach. I would be so sick knowing that again,

539
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: this one was there. There have been a couple of

540
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Speaker 4: games like this for them this season, and you know,

541
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Speaker 4: I've been high on this Minnesota team. They've been at

542
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: times disappointing, but it was there for him. Man, they

543
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: had this one. They could have done it, and at

544
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's unfortunately like them finding

545
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: a way to lose it and Penn State wins twenty

546
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: six to twenty five.

547
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't get in the end zone in the

548
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: second half, they opt for field goals. Obviously there's that fumble,

549
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: and so it's like, you don't need exclusive in this

550
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: moment at home, with the defense that Minnesota has, you

551
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: didn't exclusively need touchdowns. But it didn't seem like there

552
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: was always aggression there with Minnesota. Maybe they were coin

553
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 2: flip moments decision wise, but no. I thought the general

554
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: speed of Penn State's defense stood out to me, especially

555
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: as the game war on against Minnesota on offense.

556
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Speaker 1: They were just like, well, it's a.

557
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: Close game, but if there's if there's something that's going

558
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: to decide it, if there is like the thing that

559
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: jumps off the screen right now, it's just like, I

560
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: don't know, man Abdul Carter keeps getting a jump that

561
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 2: Minnesota does just becomes a little bit warier every single play,

562
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: and it just seemed like that's sideline to sideline for

563
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Penn State's defense as the game war on against Minnesota's offense.

564
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zane Durant their presence in the middle of their

565
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: defensive line as well, Number twenty eight.

566
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Speaker 1: They kept showing him.

567
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Speaker 4: He had a good game, very quick off the ball,

568
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: was able to make some game changing tackles. It's something

569
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: like two or three tackles for loss that were impactful

570
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: in this football game. Penn State wins again. They've ten

571
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: and won. Now twenty six to twenty five is your

572
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: final score. Minnesota's got the game next week, the rivalry game.

573
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: Penn State's got Maryland. We know how Penn State Maryland

574
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: usually goes in November, So more to come on that front.

575
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: Just to round things out here in the Big ten, Dan.

576
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: Are you going to make a follow up video about

577
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: Penn State in the opposite direction of I don't know

578
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Penn State, Maryland. We're just like, well, guys, in the

579
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: last decade or so, Penn State has won this game

580
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: about seven hundred and forty four to nineteen.

581
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Speaker 4: I cannot tell you how many people message me on

582
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: the sly.

583
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got them publicly too, but.

584
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: People who messaged me on the slot, like, dude, why

585
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: did you make that video.

586
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: Throwing out what this means?

587
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: You know, you're trotting the black cat out there, and

588
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 4: it almost sure, it almost came back to bite US.

589
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: Illinois thirty eight Rutgers thirty one wild finish. Here, Illinois

590
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: wins on a forty yard touchdown pass to Pat Bryant

591
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: as time expired.

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Speaker 1: It was not a hail Mary. It was not thrown

593
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Speaker 1: into the end zone. It was not thrown into the

594
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Speaker 1: end zone.

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Speaker 4: It was a play in which on which during which

596
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Speaker 4: just a play Rutgers had a bunch of guys over

597
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: pursue Pat Bryant reverse field, went the other direction and

598
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: ran into the corner of the end zone touchdown. They

599
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: end up winning it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was beyond that. It was an attempted long

601
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: field goal that Greg Ciano tried to freeze the kicker

602
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: on called the time out right before the snap and kick.

603
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Missed the kick, but the timeout was awarded, and Brett

604
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Bielima was like, Wow, I don't know if he's making

605
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: this after missing this, so let's figure out a play here.

606
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: And Pat Bryant absolute animal and has been all season long.

607
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: I have not watched a ton of this game. I

608
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: flipped the channel when I saw it was back and forth,

609
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: close late, and holy hell, Rutgers. I watched that as

610
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: it was happening and just mouthing to myself, not like that, guys,

611
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: not like that, not like that.

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Speaker 1: And then he got to the corner eight.

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Speaker 4: And three Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Now, so Nebraska is Bowl eligible.

615
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Speaker 4: They won forty four to twenty five over Wisconsin again

616
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Speaker 4: the first time since twenty sixteen. It's their first win

617
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Speaker 4: over Wisconsin in their last eleven meetings. And not to

618
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: harp on this game too too much, but I actually

619
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Speaker 4: thought the Holgerson offense showed real growth. I thought they

620
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Speaker 4: kept Wisconsin off balance a pretty good Wisconsin defense, mind you,

621
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Speaker 4: to put up forty four points against them is pretty good.

622
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Speaker 4: Kept them off balance, seemed to be focusing on getting

623
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Speaker 4: the best players.

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Speaker 6: Of the football.

625
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is a novel concept in this world. But

626
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Speaker 4: got the best players of the.

627
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Speaker 2: Ball showed a fair Mitch Johnson's Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And they end up winning by a pretty sizable margin here,

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Speaker 4: putting up over forty points. Wisconsin needs to win the

630
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Speaker 4: game next week in order to maintain their streak of

631
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Speaker 4: twenty two straight years of going to a Bowl game.

632
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: They are not currently Bowl eligible.

633
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Speaker 2: Dan, it's another year of Emmett though, right it is

634
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Stanford Emmetts and now Emmett for Nebraska.

635
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

636
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually did pay attention to some of this game,

637
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: and did pay attention to the receivers blocking on the edge.

638
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: After danil Holgerson was I don't know if you saw

639
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: this presser from him where he just had some quote

640
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: where he's like, I came in here, We've got all

641
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: these like big, strong receivers and nobody's blocking. If you

642
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: want to catch a ball, you got to block.

643
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: And they were blocking. Yeah, and they scored thirty five

644
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: plus points. Who knew that?

645
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: When you have a complete team effort and you get

646
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: the ball to the right players, it works.

647
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: It worked.

648
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: It did work. It worked well, So good on them.

649
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: Michigan also Bowl eligible. They destroyed Northwestern fifty to six,

650
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: and Michigan State. Michigan State needs to win next week

651
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: against Rutgers if they want to get Bull eligible. But

652
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: they won earlier in the week by a twenty four

653
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: to seventeen score over Purdue.

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is kind of a loss in a win

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: if you're playing that close to Purdue, the twenty twenty

656
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: four version of Perdue.

657
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: But good for Michigan State. Let's go to the Big twelve, Dan, what.

658
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Speaker 2: Should we bring Warren sap on now to talk like

659
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Speaker 2: a post mortem? I know he's wanting to. He's wanting

660
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Speaker 2: to come on to talk about Colorado Kansas, and we

661
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Speaker 2: can go in any direction you want, Ty.

662
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Speaker 4: So, we had a wild finish at the end of

663
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Speaker 4: Arizona State BYU but Arizona State wins. We had Kansas

664
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Speaker 4: dominating Colorado, Yes, Iowa State surviving Utah Utah of all teams,

665
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Speaker 4: and we just we had a great shootout again, an

666
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Speaker 4: old fashioned Big twelve shootout between Texas Tech and Oklahoma

667
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: State that I'll call out. But I don't know which

668
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: one of these stood out the most to you. I

669
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Speaker 4: think for me it.

670
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Speaker 1: Was Kansas and what they did to Colorado.

671
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: So third straight win against an AP top twenty five

672
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: team as a team with a losing record. And I'll,

673
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: you know, due respect to Kansas lost a lot of close,

674
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: weird games West Virginia, Asu, Illinois, whatever, but that's you know,

675
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: that's the difference between a good team and a flawed

676
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: team is pulling out games late. And Kansas was unable

677
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: to do that earlier on this year and then suddenly

678
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: had the chance to do it against Kansas State. Didn't

679
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: get it done, but took down Colorado, Iowa State and BYU.

680
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: So a nice reversal for Kansas. And do they have

681
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: the opportunity to go to a bowl game.

682
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Speaker 1: They do, They've got to win next week.

683
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: They've got to win next week. Stopped Colorado on the

684
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: ground repeatedly in embarrassing fashion. And Devin Neil I think

685
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: close to three hundred total yards between his catches and

686
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: his runs.

687
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: Yep to to eighty seven total, four total touchdowns. A

688
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: really good game on the ground for him, a really

689
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: good game of the grin for Kansas. They had three

690
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: thirty one on the ground, they had five to twenty

691
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: in total. The game plan was pretty straightforward from the

692
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: Kansas side, and it's not something I guess we'll ever

693
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: know if it was the plan going in or if

694
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: it was the eventual plan coming.

695
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: Out or the plan once they listened to Warren sapp

696
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: quality control analysts just go off on Kansas before the game.

697
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, forty minutes and eleven seconds time of possession for

698
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: the Kansas Jayhawks and this I.

699
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Don't think I saw that number. That's wild. That is

700
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: a wild lopsided number. And they ran at Colorado as

701
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: a way.

702
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: Of mitigating their own defensive woes because they're not a

703
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 4: good defensive football team.

704
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: To their credit, they played okay defensively, but they've no

705
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: they've been better.

706
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: They have been better, they have, but still it's a

707
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 4: unit that on paper looked as if Colorado would be

708
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 4: able to attack them. Yes, can't attack them if they're

709
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: not on the field, and that was the plan here.

710
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: Kansas won thirty seven to twenty one. I felt like

711
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: every time I looked at the quad box with this

712
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: game that it was just Kansas with the ball. They

713
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: had the ball the entire football game. It was wild.

714
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: So this is a big win for them.

715
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: As we look around the Big twelve It's not like

716
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: Kansas has a shot to win this thing at this point.

717
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: They've got more.

718
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: Than enough losses, right, four losses in Conference five and six. Overall,

719
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: if you look up and down though this conference, there

720
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: aren't a whole lot of teams that scare me the

721
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: way that Kansas scares me right now. They are just

722
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: on a heater and they call Colorado. They got them

723
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: in Kansas City, they played the Marigal Stadium, and they

724
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: were able to get the big win. So this effectively

725
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: knocks Colorado down a peg. Colorado still now in a

726
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: four way tie atop the Big Twelve, along with Arizona

727
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: State and BYU and Iowa State. There are all sorts

728
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 4: of scenarios that maybe we can outline on a Tuesday episode.

729
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: I don't want to drone on too long about those here,

730
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 4: but this was a really big win for Kansas and

731
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: a huge letdown loss for Colorado after people had started

732
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: projecting them into the College Football Playoff, after there had

733
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: been talking about I mean, they just flipped Julian Lewis,

734
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: big time recruit, flipped him from USC earlier in the week.

735
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: There was just a lot of good momentum on this

736
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: program to lose in this capacity was really I don't know,

737
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: it's disappointing to say the least.

738
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's sort of the conclusion of a

739
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: big stretch for Colorado in terms of big emotional games.

740
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: You saw at times emotion going both directions, regardless of

741
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: the Warren stapsap stuff. You saw Shador kind of go

742
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: head over tails on just an absolutely brutal dirty hit

743
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: that was not called, that should have anything, that should

744
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: have been called, just launching headfirst into his knees. Yeah,

745
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: as it was just.

746
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: That was a dirty call or that was that should

747
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: have been a call.

748
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: Shout called for dirty play eeah. And then Shador as

749
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: a referee is trying to break up players in each

750
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: other's face, shoving a ref with no repercussions whatsoever. I

751
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I just everybody needed to take a

752
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: cool five, it seems, and Kansas took a cool forty

753
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: and just demolished them on the ground. And cool to

754
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: see for Kansas to bounce back and to you know,

755
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: keep their heads about them after a slow start.

756
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: The other bit of chaos, real chaos in the Big

757
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: twelve was Arizona State twenty eight BYU twenty three.

758
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: This the most ridiculous game.

759
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: So BYU trailed twenty one to three at half, second half,

760
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: they mount this feverish comeback. What ends up happening is this, Okay,

761
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 4: Arizona State has the ball late. They're in position to

762
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: punch it in for a two score lead under a

763
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: minute to go. Instead, they decide they're gonna run backwards.

764
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna do like a weird cheesing video game. They're

765
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: doing like the techmost super Bowl thing where they're just

766
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 4: gonna run around and try to eat the claw.

767
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

768
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: They do that on first down, on second down, on

769
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: third down. I was on the phone with my cousin

770
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: at the time, yeah, and I was like, Tony, I

771
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: gotta go.

772
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, what's everything okay.

773
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I believe it's like fourth and forty,

774
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: fourth and goal from the forty yard line. I need

775
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 4: to figure out how this is even possible. On fourth down,

776
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: there are seven seconds left. Kenny Dillingham does the thing again.

777
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: He does it.

778
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: He does the thing.

779
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: Sam Levitt drops back, kind of takes a beat, chucks

780
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: the ball up into the air. The clock expires, It

781
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: looks like it expires. The crowd rushes the field for

782
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: like the I feel like it's the eighth time they've

783
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: rushed the field this year in Tempee. But whatever, Yeah,

784
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: good for them. Everybody rushes the field. What turns to

785
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: what turns out happening is there was still one second left.

786
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: They reviewed it via replay, They confirmed it it was

787
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: the right call. But everybody's on the field. Kenny Dillingham

788
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 4: is losing his mind on the refs, on the refs

789
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: going nuts. Not a good look for him. We can

790
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: come back to that. Sure, They got to then shuttle

791
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: everybody off the field for one final hail mary play,

792
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: which takes twenty minutes to do. Finally, Byu gets the

793
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: ball back. Jake Retzlaff throws the hail mary short of

794
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: the end zone, which is always kind of a bumber.

795
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: If I may, little like sidebar here not not PI

796
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: And I know they're never going to call that in

797
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: that moment, sure, with an Arizona State player in his

798
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: small intestine as the ball is still in the air,

799
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: I didn't mean for that to sound gross, Tie, I

800
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: apologize immediately, but hanging all over him, draped all over him,

801
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: all over his shoulders as the ball is in the air,

802
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: not not PI, I guess is the kindest way I

803
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: can say it. He comes down with it, he's short

804
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: of the end zone. Game over, game over. Then they

805
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: rush the field. Yes, final score here, twenty eight to

806
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: twenty three. Arizona State's still in a position to control

807
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: its own destiny.

808
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 4: They win next week, they're in the Big Twelve title game.

809
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: They win the Big Twelve title game, They're going to

810
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: be in the play. It's just crazy, absolute craziness right

811
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: now going on in the Big Twelve. Dan.

812
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny Dillingham looking I think I messaged you that

813
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: he looked like a potentially emotionally lost president of Delta

814
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: SIG in the middle of a breakup. Looked seventeen, sounded seventeen.

815
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: And it's not his fault for being upset at the

816
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: way that the end of this game transpired. It is

817
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: his fault the way he managed to not manage the

818
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: clock at the end of that game like a professional

819
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: college football coach.

820
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, him, just like ah.

821
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: And then there was an actual because you couldn't get

822
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: the words on the ESPN copy and then or on

823
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: the ESPN footage, and then there were like all the

824
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: student phone videos of what he acts actually said, and man,

825
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: not a not the brightest moment for No. Sure, I'm

826
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: rooting for him. I like him a lot. I love

827
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: this time in Oregon. I think he's really really savvy.

828
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: But man just went went ape?

829
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: What ape? Shit? TI just nuts? Yeah, he lost it

830
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. By the way.

831
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: A crazy on side kick in this game. I don't

832
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: know if you saw that for Arizona State. One of

833
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: those deals where they just line it off a guy

834
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 4: standing in the front row and boom they recover it. Yeah,

835
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: that was pretty cool. Arizona State wins twenty to twenty three.

836
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: Iowa State survives Utah. Utah missed a game tying fifty

837
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: four yard field goal with about ten seconds left. This

838
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: is a very good game of back and forth game

839
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: as Iowa State hold Serve also in that four way

840
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: tie atop the Big Twelve. Elsewhere, we did have the

841
00:41:53,040 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 4: shootout where's my sound? Not really of any true national significance,

842
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 4: but that's sort of beside the point here on these

843
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: Saturday Night recap episodes, Dan, we had a vintage shootout

844
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: in the Big Twelve between Texas Tech and Oklahoma State.

845
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State tried out a freshman quarterback. He was pretty good,

846
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: very efficient. Oli Gordon was back to looking like Oli

847
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: Gordon had over ten yards per carrying three touchdowns. Baron

848
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: Morton had over four hundred yards on fifty plus attempts. Ultimately,

849
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: it was at Oklahoma State snap over their quarterbacks head

850
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: that led to the victory. Maya Luaki Smith, Thank you, Dan,

851
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: That's what led to the victory. That's what allowed Texas

852
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: Tech to pull away. But fifty six to forty eight,

853
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: nice little shootout here in Big twelve territory. We had

854
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: wins from TCU, from West Virginia, from Baylor, and from

855
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: Kansas State. Kansas State knocked off Cincinnati, Dan. But chaos

856
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: will continue to ensue next week because we've got this

857
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: big tie at the top and who knows what it's

858
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: going to happen.

859
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Just feels like each week is a new verse.

860
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Kind of bummed that we're not getting bedlam. This would

861
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: have been a real weird, fun year to have bedlam. Unfortunately,

862
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: TVs are more important than all of this. And speaking

863
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: of a big tie at the tie at the top, tie,

864
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: happy birthday, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it, of course.

865
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah twenty nine treasure, let's.

866
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Go over to the ACC.

867
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: SMU clinched a spot in the ACC title game by

868
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: virtue of their win over Virginia. This is one that

869
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: I called out. They were about a nine and a

870
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: half point road favorite. This game was never close, never close,

871
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: one thirty three to seven something to that nature. Nice

872
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 4: win for SMU. They now get into that title game.

873
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: Miami pulled away late from Wake Forest. The score ended

874
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: up not being all that close forty two to fourteen,

875
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: but they are now within striking distance as well. I

876
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 4: gotta win next week against Syracuse in order to get

877
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: into that title game. But it suddenly is very interesting

878
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 4: in the ACC with respect to this title game and

879
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: how it fits into the broader playoff discussion. Yeah, because

880
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: we had all these teams in front of SMU lose.

881
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: We have Miami who has been sitting there, just perched

882
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: in the top ten now for a while, despite the

883
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: fact that they've got a loss. Yep, And it stands

884
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: to reason that if we've got a close ACC Championship

885
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 4: game between presumably SMU and Miami, there's a case we

886
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: made that both of those teams should get in and

887
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: one of the SEC teams that everybody likes to talk

888
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: about is going to get left out one or more

889
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: because these are teams that have not lost late at

890
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: least not yet.

891
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have not lost in crazy to a crazy

892
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: embarrassing team or in crazy embarrassing fashion. SMU lost early

893
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: to obviously a very good BYU, Miami losing to a

894
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: decent at times, especially when they're healthy Georgia Tech.

895
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: And so.

896
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: You'd like to see some sort of more recent signature

897
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: victory perhaps, But I mean, all things considered, they both

898
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: be Louisville like. There's a lot impressive about both of

899
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: these teams, and specifically about Miami today. It's the defense

900
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: coming to play. This wasn't a fifty two to twenty

901
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: eight win for the Canes. This was a pretty thorough

902
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: defensive performance from Miami, which is what we've been looking for,

903
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: wait for us.

904
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: But still, they had some long runs from Mark Fletcher

905
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 4: and Jordan Wyle late, oh dude, which is what gave

906
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: Miami the clearance it needed to pull away and make

907
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: this one look like more of a runaway train.

908
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: I am having a lot of feelings about Jordan Lyle. Yeah,

909
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: he's good, he's real good, he runs angry, he is special.

910
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I like him elsewhere in the ACC.

911
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: We had a big win for Boston College forty one

912
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: twenty one over UNC Syracuse beat Yukon. We had the

913
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: game that you mentioned earlier between Georgia Tech and NC

914
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: State earlier in the week, thirty to twenty nine Tech

915
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 4: one Louisville all over Pitt thirty seven to nine. Cal

916
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty one over Stanford. Clemson big over

917
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: the Citadel, Florida State Dan dozens of points, dozens of points.

918
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 4: It's their first win since September, Yes, which is kind

919
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: of hard to believe.

920
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: Over Cal, so they beat Call in September and Cal

921
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: takes home because this is like a pseudo rivalry week,

922
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: we had some of those Cal takes home the Stanford

923
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: acts in their win, their comeback win over Stanford. Stanford

924
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I think jumped out to a fourteen to nothing win.

925
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendez, I don't know if you saw pretty emotional

926
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: after the win, which you know, love how the importance

927
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: that so many these guys place on these big games

928
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: and just mostly irrelevant. But did you happen to see

929
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: the name Because nobody could really do anything beyond Cal

930
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: throwing the ball. Cal's leading receiver Tronde Grizzle.

931
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Okay, just making sure.

932
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Correctly Trond with a D on the end tron to

933
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Grizzle and.

934
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: Duke one thirty one to twenty eight over Virginia Tech.

935
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: You liked Duke this week. You liked them a lot.

936
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I liked them a lot.

937
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech with no Kien drones, Uh, completely unable to

938
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: handle Duke up front on the Virginia Tech offensive line.

939
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: These guys were just under a ton of pressure all

940
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: game long, and Duke harassed and harangued and engulfed.

941
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to catch some flak for doing this, but.

942
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Gase who just got furded.

943
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: Notre Dame all over Army Dan. I tried to tell you, Ty,

944
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: I try to tell you.

945
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: I said I would take a Notre Dame minus like

946
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: twenty six, right.

947
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: Take him minus whatever. This was a dominant effort from

948
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: start to finish. Forty nine to fourteen, Notre Dame had

949
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: more rushing yards than Army had, as eighteen two seventy

950
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: three on the ground on twenty nine carries five touchdowns.

951
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: An incredible moment earlier in the game from Jeremiah Love.

952
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: We just high hurdles a guy jumping in clears him

953
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: by like a foot. He had seven carries for one

954
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: point thirty and two scores in this football game. Notre

955
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: Dame looked really, really good and it's not a huge surprise.

956
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: We both felt like it was a mismatch coming in.

957
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: The point spread was low. We both were in on

958
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. This is not to say I told you so,

959
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: but we told you so. This felt like it was

960
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 4: a mismatch.

961
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: We told you so.

962
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ended up being a mismatch. And that's no

963
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: disrespect to the find US Army. Yeah, which I think

964
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 4: has had an incredible season and we'll go into the

965
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: American Title Game next week with still I think a

966
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: fair amount to play for. I do think, though this

967
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: lost here has put to bed in a notion that

968
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 4: Army's getting in the playoff. I think it's really coming

969
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 4: down to at this point Boise State and or too Lan.

970
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: Was this indicative of anything for Notre Dame? Like, did

971
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: you come away learning anything new? That just that they

972
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: were able to take care business away from home against

973
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: a team that plays an unusual brand of football.

974
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: But they had Navy already off.

975
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: Had Navy it look, I said, coming into this game

976
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: that I expected to be similar to the game we

977
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: saw against Navy, and it was. It was extraordinarily similar.

978
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: The defense is very fast.

979
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Did Howard Cross play? The defense is very very fast.

980
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: Howard Cross did not play in this football game, Okay,

981
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: And as you indicated, probably wouldn't matter. Didn't seem to matter.

982
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: It didn't seem the matter. You're not going to run

983
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: exclusively against Notre Dame win. And we saw instances in

984
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: this game where Army you could tell, was used to

985
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: getting to the edge on some sort of speed option

986
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: or pitch play, and they couldn't get to the edge

987
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: on Notre Dame. They were just quicker, they were more athletic.

988
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 4: When you get an option team in a hole the

989
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: way Notre Dame got this team in a hole, they're

990
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: not going to be able to throw to come from

991
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: behind at that point. They are counting on breakdowns, They

992
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: are counting on miscues, mistakes when you get the ball

993
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: in order for you to set them up so that

994
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: they can climb back into this thing. But Notre Dame

995
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: just didn't. They didn't do that. They didn't give Army

996
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 4: a chance to read claw back into this at all.

997
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 4: So I give the US Army plenty of credit. This

998
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: was I think a game that they had circled for

999
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: a while. It was a cool occasion, playing this one

1000
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 4: at Yankee Stadium, and.

1001
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: They both got to dress kind of a like, which

1002
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: was very confusing for me. As I watched this game,

1003
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: there was like, oh, Notre Dame a punt blocks. No,

1004
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame was the one who blocked the punt.

1005
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: There was some let's say, discussion on the text threads

1006
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: about Notre Dame's jerseys, which I liked, but there were

1007
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 4: some who didn't.

1008
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: Well they looked like Army. They looked a little bit

1009
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: like Army. Yeah, it's a very weird decision. I liked it.

1010
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: I liked the jerseys. I thought they were better than

1011
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 4: most of their alternates.

1012
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, where them when you play Florida

1013
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: State where you played Stanford?

1014
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: Und I get it.

1015
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: I understand. Yeah, but this was a really good performance

1016
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 4: from Notre Dame. I don't know if it's teaching us

1017
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: anything new. Next week against USC may teach us something new,

1018
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: but not this week. This was something that we saw

1019
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: earlier in the year against Navy. They won resounding fashion.

1020
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the other game I want to call out here.

1021
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: Boise State surviving Wyoming, Yes, elevation Baby seventeen to thirteen

1022
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: Dan So.

1023
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: Interesting game.

1024
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm curious to see if this moves any playoff needles.

1025
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: That Boise again has struggled to separate from an inferior opponent, that.

1026
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: They have now had a couple really sloppy offensive performances,

1027
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 4: and it's overshadowed a bit by the fact that they've

1028
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 4: got Ashton Gent, who now has over two thousand rushing

1029
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: yards in the.

1030
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: Season, only had nine yards per carry tonight, only nine yards.

1031
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: He came out of the game briefly in the third

1032
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: quarter with an ankle injury, but then came back in

1033
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter helped Boise seal the dub. I don't know,

1034
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 4: it's there's just so much talk about Ashton Gent that

1035
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: it feels to me it is masking the fact that

1036
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: Boise has been sloppy offensively.

1037
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: They've been saying they're still They came into this game

1038
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: fifth nationally in points per drive and doesn't mean they

1039
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: aren't doing that in a sloppy way. I just don't

1040
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: think they have anything in the way of a consistent

1041
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: passing game that would open up bigger plays bigger leads.

1042
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the defense is not special, but they're winning

1043
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 2: games and they have maybe the best offensive skill player

1044
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: in the country or one of the like four sure,

1045
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: and I don't know if being able to control the

1046
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: game on the ground like that and coming out with wins.

1047
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: We don't have to view a wildly successful Boise season

1048
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: through the lens of the playoffs, so we can just say,

1049
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: hell of a year for Boise State. It's healthy if

1050
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: we can watch a lot more Ashton Genty.

1051
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 4: It's been a healthier and I would like to see

1052
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: Ashton Genty in the playoffs. I would I'll have to

1053
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 4: see what he could do against you know, better competition.

1054
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: But just something to keep your eyes on, all right,

1055
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 4: something to keep in the back of your mind. There

1056
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: Boise State wins by a seventeen to thirteen score again,

1057
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: as Tulane has been a wrecking ball as well, Tulayane's

1058
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: been a wrecking ball.

1059
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1060
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: We had the Oregon State win over Wazoo in the

1061
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: PAC twelve title game. Yeah, of course it was one

1062
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 4: of our locks, our double barreled lock which failed again.

1063
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: Our lock totally round this year.

1064
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 4: I also wanted to call something else out Dan, if

1065
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 4: I could just for one second, please.

1066
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Baby, baby, baby, baby, a baby baby.

1067
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: Lehigh Mountain Hawks man thirty eight to fourteen. They get

1068
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: the dub over hated rival Lafayette. True, they stormed the field. Yes,

1069
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 4: they rip down the goalposts, have to. They walk them

1070
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: over to the raging Lehigh River. They dumped the goalposts

1071
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 4: in the river. I can't tell you how many people

1072
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: were sending me pictures of this.

1073
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1074
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 4: If I had known about it sooner, I had driven

1075
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: a tryan find.

1076
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: Is it still in the river. I have not seen

1077
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: an update. Has it been fished out? Okay, I have

1078
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: not seen an update.

1079
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: What I can tell you is that all of the

1080
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 4: local news sources here, the local like wfm Z Call,

1081
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: like every single news source in the Lehigh Valley of

1082
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: eastern Pennsylvania. Yeah, was sending out push alerts talking about

1083
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 4: the goalpost being mort lee High River.

1084
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: There's a chopper with the big spotlight. Just we don't

1085
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: have choppers like that. We don't have news choppers up here.

1086
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: We're not you have news choppers. No, no, no, no no no.

1087
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: We got a gofundmeate, not unless Philly sent one up.

1088
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: We don't got any kind of news choppers.

1089
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, I just assume it was Philly, New York. It

1090
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: was you name it, sending the local ones continue.

1091
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: But all that being said, yeah, we had a situation

1092
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 4: here locally where the goalposts ended up in the Lehigh River,

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00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 4: and uh, they've got I could send you a funny map.

1094
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 4: They somebody put together a whole Google Maps thing. This

1095
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: is the Lehigh the root of the Lehigh goalpost. They

1096
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: went four miles that type of thing. So there's a

1097
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: lot of stuff going on for them to get it

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00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: to the river and for all this excitement to kind

1099
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 4: of ensue. But a big win for Lehigh for those

1100
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: who care.

1101
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: So Lehigh is now in the FCS playoffs. Won the

1102
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: UH won the Pat League, won the Pat League, so

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00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: I think they it was they shared the crown with

1104
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: Holy Cross, but they win the tiebreaker, I believe. So

1105
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: which Dakota are we going to go to follow Lehigh

1106
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: on their journey towards FCS glory.

1107
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, we got to save the travel

1108
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 4: budget here with these playoffs.

1109
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: You could have a verbowl on our hands. Yes, all

1110
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff going on. Man, can't wait? Shall we

1111
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: read some tweets? Would love to roll play with me.

1112
00:55:53,560 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Who Ah, Honold stepping in here, always introing this segment

1113
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 4: where we ask people once a night, every Saturday, answer

1114
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: this question. I am a blank fan right now. I

1115
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: am feeling blank, Dan, what do we got?

1116
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm a Florida fan and I'm thrilled right now. I'm

1117
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: a college football fan and I woke up feeling the cheesiest.

1118
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm a Virginia fan, feeling defeated. They were not competitive

1119
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: with SMU and the slightest Wake Forest fan and at

1120
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: least I'm not a Florida State fan again. Dozens of points,

1121
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: Florida State, dozens of points. I'm an Iowa State fan,

1122
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling like nothing can ever be easy.

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of yeah. Experience here.

1124
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm a Tech fan. I'm feeling the same way I

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00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: do five to six Saturdays per year. I'm an Oregon fan,

1126
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling rested. Let me tell you something, ty

1127
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: one of the great Saturdays of twenty twenty four for

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: me as an Oregon fan this year, poor me. I know,

1129
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm a Purdue fan. Still glad it's basketball season, Tennessee.

1130
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: Thankful we played UTEP this week.

1131
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: Do not overlook the miners.

1132
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: I'm a Rutgers fan, and I'm feeling like I got

1133
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: my hopes up just long enough to let my guard

1134
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: down and get dropped.

1135
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: Kick in the bagog again?

1136
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Oregon State feeling like a champion, Ricky, good on you.

1137
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm a Texas Tech fan. I'm feeling like we survived

1138
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: a twenty fifteen Big Twelve shootout today. I'm an ASU

1139
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: fan and I'm feeling euphoric.

1140
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: I like that.

1141
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm an Arkansas fan. They took down who Louisiana Tech?

1142
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: I want to say thirty five fourteen, and I'm feeling

1143
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: the same miserable feeling I feel every single year. I'm

1144
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: an Nebraska fan feeling optimistic about the offense.

1145
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Good. That's a great way to go with me. Off season,

1146
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: That's how I felt.

1147
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm not a Nebraska fan, and I felt optimistic about

1148
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: their offense.

1149
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm a Duke fan. For us, it's not winning as

1150
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: a skill, but rather not losing is a skill.

1151
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: Great. Hey, absolutely, that's how we Anguts.

1152
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: Played right, Bogey avoid right, That's what That's what Duke

1153
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: is doing right now.

1154
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm an Nebraska fan. I feel like.

1155
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: We're going bowling wonderful.

1156
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: Chaos fan, feeling like Stefan with this place has everything

1157
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: a Virginia fan. We already did Virginia chaos fan, and

1158
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm feeling chaos.

1159
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: How about that time?

1160
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. Great commentary from the

1161
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: verbawler hood. Uh would encourage everybody who is watching this,

1162
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: who is listening to this, to going out to verbowlers

1163
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Speaker 4: dot com. Not so much to give us your money.

1164
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: If you want to do that, we'll take it, okay.

1165
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: If you want to help support the show, we appreciate

1166
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: it. It goes a long way, trust me. But you can

1167
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: sign up to be truly a free member. If you

1168
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: are a free member, you will get access to our poll,

1169
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: Averbawler Top twelve poll. It's going to go live at

1170
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: eight am Sunday Eastern time. All are welcome to vote

1171
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: in this poll. No strings attached. You just got to

1172
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Speaker 4: sign up so that you can get access to the post.

1173
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: But all are welcome to vote in the poll. We

1174
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: want to get as much input as we can. I

1175
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: think it's a really interesting week to open it up.

1176
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: It's why I did oh Man beacause so much turmoil

1177
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: in the SEC, so much turmoil in that top twelve.

1178
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: I want to get as many voices involved in that

1179
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: poll as possible, so all are welcome. You just got

1180
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: to go to for ballers dot com and sign up

1181
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: just as a free member. That's all we asked.

1182
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: Nothing more. You'll get access to that.

1183
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: You get an email in your inbox bright and early

1184
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: on Sunday morning. I think it's a no brainer voting

1185
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: the poll for Ballers dot com.

1186
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Uh, do we want to do doodle alerts? Dan, let's

1187
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: do some du alerts.

1188
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: Had a bunch of guys that had incredible individual performances

1189
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: each and every week we ask for your dood alert nominations.

1190
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: Now is the time to read those off, Dan Rubinstein,

1191
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: Who do we got for week thirteen? How about Kyle McCord?

1192
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: How about Syracuse SKU? I believe eight and three for

1193
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: the f animal who gets to take another shower? He

1194
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: throws for four hundred and seventy against Yukon. I just

1195
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: kind of want to shout out the weird backward duty

1196
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: noess of Baylor Houston seven turnovers in this one, including.

1197
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: Three from each quarterback. I know, backward dudes. I got

1198
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: to come up with a name for that, But that's

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Speaker 2: that's just impressive to me. Let's go Devin Neil of course,

1200
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: Cody Simon and Caleb Downs of course for Ohio State.

1201
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: Cam Scattaboo all over the place, Ollie Gordon, we got

1202
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: to welcome back on our document.

1203
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Right back, Welcome back, Welcome back.

1204
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: Isaac Brown. In Louisville's very clean win over Pitts Pat

1205
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: Bryant going for nearly two hundred derekle captain, which I

1206
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: prefer le capiton.

1207
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: I prefer to capiton as well. Derek leacaptain is a

1208
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 4: captain for Minnesota. Only appropriate, only appropriate.

1209
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: He blocked a punt in this game. Yeah, so she mention.

1210
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Bryson Bards, the quarterback for Utah State in a big

1211
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: win over San Diego State, ran for nearly two hundred yards.

1212
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: You remember Bryson barn.

1213
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: Pig farmer walk on quarterback for Utah transferred to Utah State.

1214
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: Good for him.

1215
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, with Iowa down to their third or fourth

1216
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: string quarterback, goes for like looks like a buck sixty

1217
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: four in a nice clean win against Maryland on the road.

1218
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: During our stream.

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Speaker 4: By the way, people were chiming in in the early

1220
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: part of that Iowa Maryland game, saying, yeah, he might

1221
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 4: run for two fifty in this game.

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Speaker 1: He was really, he was really starting off like a

1223
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: ball of fire.

1224
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: Charlotte has a receiver named Omega Blake. Yeah, and he

1225
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: went for over two hundred with three tugs for Charlotte

1226
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: in a winning effort over Florida Atlantic. Makhai Jackson for

1227
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: app State went for one sixty two in a win

1228
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: winning effort against James Madison and Jayden Higgins, who's quietly

1229
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: been one of the absolute best, like i'd probably say

1230
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: all big twelve first team caliber receiver for Iowa State.

1231
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: Another crazy impressive game going against oh yeah, the Utah

1232
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: defense for over one hundred and fifty an absolute.

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Speaker 4: Dude, wonderful Thank you to one and all for sending

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Speaker 4: in those dood alarts. We do have your reverbs here

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Speaker 4: loaded up and ready to go. People dialed in at

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Speaker 4: eight five five verbal three. The reverblind continues to be

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01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 4: one of my favorites each and every week. It's our

1238
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: way to stay connected to the people, not just through

1239
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 4: our wonderful discord, which we do read. We can't always respond,

1240
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: but it's like trying to read the matrix on game

1241
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: days with so much going on. We would encourage people

1242
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: to check that out at verbowlers dot com as well.

1243
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: Thank you to the community for kind of egging us

1244
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: along here and feeding us with all of these great quips.

1245
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 4: We appreciate all of that. It has helped us immensely

1246
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: throughout the course of this season. And the reverbs, as

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Speaker 4: I said, are kind of our I don't know our

1248
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 4: way of taking the temperature of what's going on out

1249
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: there in the college football eather. So here they are

1250
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Speaker 4: for Week thirteen. Have listened.

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Speaker 6: This is Sooner Point from Maryland. While driving to New

1252
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 6: Jersey today, I stopped off at Yako It's for lunch.

1253
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 6: Hopefully that will inspire the Sooners to be the Yacko's

1254
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 6: home dog of the week. Oh Meg Alabama tonight.

1255
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 5: So Hi, this is Ashley, Yeah, this is Jeff and Missouri.

1256
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 6: Hey guys, this is Josh, huge Tennessee fan.

1257
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 7: I was just kind of say thank you, Florida words

1258
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 7: I never thought I'd say in my life.

1259
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Speaker 1: Thanking the Great Chiana on the Rutgers Scarlet Knights for

1260
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: giving early Christmas gift to the Aligini.

1261
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 5: I would call that time out decision borderline neurotic. Quarter

1262
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: day Ohio State apparently.

1263
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: Looks like Nebraska's finally going to make a bowl game.

1264
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 8: Fifteen extra practices, Dylan Royola finally figured out.

1265
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 3: Dana Holgerson, Dave's.

1266
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 5: The day again, Huskers full bound?

1267
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Speaker 1: All I have to say, Oh, Big Red.

1268
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 4: So are we sure that we can't just put Kansas.

1269
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Speaker 8: In the playoffs?

1270
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 4: I don't outside right now putting up posters for a

1271
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 4: missing BYU team last scene, Central Florida. Call me if

1272
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: you can find them.

1273
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 8: I'm no doctor. Put eleven, twenty three, twenty four, six

1274
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 8: forty pm late game, James has died. Sake punt from

1275
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 8: his own thirty four we are.

1276
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm so big, quick check the sea. If Tye is breathing?

1277
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 5: WHEREMI go?

1278
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 4: Notre Dame wanted you to know that fan of longhorns

1279
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: and that I woke up feeling exusus.

1280
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: I just hope that Lane Kiffin is somewhere in the

1281
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: swamp singing Rocky Top all night long, just like he promised.

1282
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 6: Go good.

1283
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 7: After the week Tony Elliott's had and the way he

1284
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 7: has handled this quarterback situation and everything that's gone on,

1285
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 7: I've officially declared myself done with Tony Elliott.

1286
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm living in a constant state of depression because Stanford

1287
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: is never going to be cow.

1288
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 6: Is the sec mid no cap.

1289
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: I just remember that Utah thought they were going to

1290
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 5: lock him into this conference and win it. That's funny.

1291
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: They're not going bowling now, good night.

1292
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: I have hated oh Las six weeks because, as the

1293
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 5: SBN two cost layer reminded me, my chip will have

1294
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 5: not won since September twenty eighth. But you know what,

1295
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 5: nothing will make a win. They feel better than a

1296
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 5: victory over your arrival. Fire up, chips.

1297
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Speaker 6: Start spreading the news New York City's one true football team,

1298
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 6: My Columbia Alliance just won their first league title since

1299
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 6: the Kennedy administration.

1300
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: Roar Lion, Roar.

1301
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Speaker 5: Dan Die, it's after midnight, bender Elli Garrett. Now if

1302
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm kid, get all these teams out of here. They're

1303
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: all trash.

1304
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh everyone's bad. Tie, everyone's bad.

1305
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: By the way, shout out to the guy who called

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Speaker 4: in and sang Frank Sinatra's My way. For longer than

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 4: a minute. We could not fit that on. We could

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01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: not fit that on this rendition of the reverbs. But

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: I am told it was a rousing performance.

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Speaker 1: Electric.

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Speaker 4: It was an electric performance it was on key. Please

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 4: call back next sing us another tune. Maybe we'll see

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01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 4: if we can work that one in those are.

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01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how much we could play of a

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: copy righted song.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we can't do that. No no, no, we

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: can't do that. Yeah, but if you're singing it, I

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 4: think probably skirt some copyright rules or at least some

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 4: of the algorithms.

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Speaker 1: I think we can do a solid three to five seconds.

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Speaker 4: We get to a solid three, A tight three to five.

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: A tight three to five.

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: So where do we stand now? What are your big

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: picture opinions on top twelve ish stuff?

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Speaker 1: We saved it? How would we rank our top twelve

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01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: at this?

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01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is what we know. I don't know

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 2: if you mentioned this. I zone out sometimes because I'm

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01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: not very bright. Georgia is now in the SEC Championship game,

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: are they not? Georgia will be playing the winner of

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: Texas Texas A and M. It's that easy, I believe, right,

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01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: So Texas A and M can still play for the

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 2: SEC Championship because one of their losses was to Notre Dame.

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: So they're a two loss SEC team. Correct, So Texas

1335
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: A and M can still get into the College Football

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: Playoff correct with a win over Texas and Georgia, which

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 2: would be super impressive to do with their backup quarterback.

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01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a stretch, given the fact that

1339
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: they love a stretch.

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 4: They just lost to Auburn, But this is the season

1341
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 4: that we've got in front of us here. It appears

1342
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 4: as if that's where things are headed in the SEC.

1343
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State wins and they're in against Oregon, that'srect they lose.

1344
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Penn State is in.

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: If they lose, Penn State is in. Okay, the Big

1346
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 4: twelve appears to be a hot mess. We've got a

1347
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 4: four way tie. I would rather still be Arizona State

1348
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 4: than anybody else. At this point, it seems as if

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01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: the most likely scenario will be Arizona State against Iowa State, which,

1350
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 4: for all intents and purposes for those playing the home game, yeah,

1351
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm throwing all of my common sayings out here on

1352
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 4: this one. That would I think be a very entertaining game.

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01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 4: I agree, I think that'd be a hell of a

1354
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 4: game and smu by virtue of their win. As I

1355
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 4: said earlier, as clinched to birth in the ACC title game,

1356
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: we were just waiting to see what happens with Miami.

1357
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 4: Miami is on the road against.

1358
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: Syracuse obviously winning. They're in.

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: Winning, They're in. The winners of those four conferences will

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 4: be in the playoff. In all likelihood, we are getting

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 4: one G five team in, and I'm guessing it is

1362
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 4: either going to be Boise State or two Lane. Right now,

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01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 4: Boise definitely has the upper hand as we are recording this,

1364
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 4: Fresno is up twenty one points. Just gonna ask on

1365
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: Colorado State about midway through the third quarter, which means

1366
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: that Colorado State loses, that sets up a rematch in

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 4: the conference title game.

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01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: Barring there aren't.

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Speaker 4: Any other losses or anything between UNLV and Boise State.

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: That was a very close game the first time they played.

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 4: There's a strong likelihood we have a close game again.

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 4: UNLV could be in a position to knock Boise out

1373
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 4: of the playoff.

1374
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: That is, is the Mountain West championship game? Is that

1375
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: home site or in Vegas? It could be in Vegas

1376
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 2: as a home site.

1377
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 4: I would have to go back and check.

1378
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

1379
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: The other thing is now, we talked Big ten, we

1380
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 2: talk SEC, we talked Big twelve. Acc I am holding

1381
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:22,440
Speaker 2: out hope that both Arizona State and Oregon can impregnate

1382
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 2: their respective conferences with PAC twelve championship DNA and collapse

1383
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and then just go on and have

1384
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 2: two PAC twelve.

1385
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: Champions in twenty twenty four. Yeah, that is my sincere goal.

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: At this moment, the question of at large teams remains

1387
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: very fluid, and I mean very very fluid. Penn State

1388
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 4: right now is in really good position. Penn State just

1389
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 4: needs to win and they're in. I like their chances

1390
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: against Maryland, but they they got kind of over the

1391
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: big hurdle here this week.

1392
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: Indiana.

1393
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: There was a question coming into this week, coming into

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01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 4: this evening, where Indiana would stand, But because of the

1395
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 4: losses in the SEC, I think it bodes well for India.

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01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: I think it clears the way.

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: I think it clears the path. Notre Dame's in a

1398
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 4: good spot. They win, clearly they are in. This is

1399
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 4: where things start to get a little bit wonky. Dan

1400
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 4: as you get towards the back half of this top twelve,

1401
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: you've got teams like Boise. I think it bodes well

1402
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 4: for a school like an SMU. Obviously an SMU is

1403
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 4: going to.

1404
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: Be well Who is SMU up against in this conversation, Probably.

1405
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: Teams, Probably teams. I mean they're up They're up against

1406
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 4: Miami is who they're up against. But beyond that, in

1407
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: terms of getting in as an over march, they're up

1408
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 4: against maybe some three loss SEC teams at this point.

1409
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 4: So if you're counting losses, yeah, they would probably have

1410
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 4: a nod in that department if you're considering strength. Otherwise,

1411
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 4: maybe that's a conversation that the SEC wins. But SMU,

1412
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 4: I think feels has to feel pretty good about where

1413
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: they're at. There is a conversation about Clemson that should

1414
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 4: Clemson find its way into the ACC title game, they're

1415
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 4: going to move up by virtue of the fact that

1416
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 4: they want pretty handily over the Citadel and teams in

1417
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 4: front of them lost. There is a Clemson conversation. There's

1418
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: an Arizona State conversation that I think only takes place

1419
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 4: if they end up winning the conference. Same is true

1420
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: for Iowa State. But these are also teams that we

1421
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 4: can't really avoid. What I am finding the most fascinating

1422
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: why I'm interested in hearing from the verballer hood on

1423
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: our poll at verballers dot Com is because I can

1424
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 4: get about seven teams into this thing, and then I

1425
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 4: have no idea who I am ranking next.

1426
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: Nor in what order, nor in what order.

1427
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 4: There are a lot of teams with more losses than

1428
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 4: we expected at the start of the season, and that

1429
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 4: has made for whatever version we consider max chaos, that

1430
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 4: is made for max chaos here as we enter week fourteen.

1431
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 2: Right, No, I mean it's they're going to be. You know,

1432
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: if SMU loses to Miami in a respective, respectful way,

1433
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,520
Speaker 2: respectful way in a I don't know that they are competitive,

1434
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: then you're comparing SMU against Tennessee. You're comparing SMU against

1435
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: who exactly exactly Clemson. Yeah, I think that's that's probably

1436
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: digging a little bit too deep. And SMU is entering

1437
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,480
Speaker 2: this week as number thirteen, and they'll have Ole Miss

1438
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,959
Speaker 2: and Alabama fall beyond them, probably, right.

1439
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 4: I would assume.

1440
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, So Tennessee has Vanderbilt, Georgia has Georgia Tech,

1441
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: Miami has once against Syracuse.

1442
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, on the road.

1443
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has sc on the road, Indiana has old

1444
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: Oakan bucket Purdue Penn State as Maryland. Texas has a

1445
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 2: tough one in a and m Ohio State has Michigan

1446
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: though that's in Columbus, yes, yep. And Oregon of course

1447
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: has Washington in Eugene. So tough matchups. We're going to

1448
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 2: see more change, but I don't know it's taking shape.

1449
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 6: To me.

1450
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's going to be that difficult.

1451
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: After next week, we shall see again.

1452
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 4: We would encoura you all to chime in by going

1453
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: to for ballers dot com signing up in voting in

1454
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 4: our poll that goes live again eight am Sunday morning

1455
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: on the East Coast. That'll run for about twenty four

1456
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: hours or so, and then we'll talk about it on

1457
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 4: our Thursday preview show. A little bit of a different

1458
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: schedule this coming week because of being Thanksgiving, because of it,

1459
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: you know, just being a compressed week for a lot

1460
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 4: of people who are on the road. We are going

1461
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 4: to take the majority of our Tuesday episode and we

1462
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: are going to dedicate it to some of the games

1463
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: that are being played earlier in the week. The Egg Bowl.

1464
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 4: There are a bunch of games. On Friday, we'll pick

1465
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 4: and choose some of our favorites from the earlier games.

1466
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 4: We will preview those like we would normally on the

1467
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: Thursday episode, and then on Thursday we'll preview the games

1468
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,520
Speaker 4: that are going to take part on Saturday.

1469
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: A lot to discuss here.

1470
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 4: We will of course do the thing again on Saturday

1471
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: night after week fourteen, reacting to everything that transpired. Once

1472
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 4: we have a good sense for who's going to be

1473
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 4: playing in those conference title games, how the playoff race

1474
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 4: is shaking out, that might be a show that sounds

1475
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 4: litle bit different than this one because we're going to

1476
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 4: have more playoff discussion that I think we need to

1477
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 4: get into. But alas we have finally arrived at this

1478
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 4: point that we have been warning about for weeks on end.

1479
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: Chaos is here. Chaos is here.

1480
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: Great to be in this boat with you, my friend Hey,

1481
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 2: you as well, Mountain West Championship game home site, whoever

1482
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: has the higher winning percentage in conference for that guy

1483
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for my self,

1484
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: Tie Hillebrand, thanks again for supporting, for watching, for downloading,

1485
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: for listening, for being part of.

1486
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 4: The Rebowler hood. We will talk to you all on

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: Tuesday and any time to day.

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01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: South Peace,