1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to drive to the Warner Brothers 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: to read with Shane, and I called Bonnie up in 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: New York and her agent her assistant put me on 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: hold because I'm calling her up to be to say 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: to her, I can't go in and do this, like 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: this is like way over my head, this material. I 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: have no idea what I'm doing. And in that moment, 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: of course, I hear myself telling me it's I'm on 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: hold for ages, and all of a sudden, I just 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: hang up the damn phone, and I was like, you 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: know what that means. I have to go in. 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: I have to do this audition, you know, and say, God, 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: I did because it changed my life. 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: Hi. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm Michelle Montiman, and I am very happy to be here. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, we're back. Well, your back off the beat 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: is back and I am back me being your host, 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Ryan Bomgarterner, and you know who else is back, My guest, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: Michelle Monahan. Technically she's here for the first time, but 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: she is back in my heart. She's had an incredible 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 4: and incredibly prolific career, starring in movies like Kiss Kiss 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: Bang Bang, Gone, Baby Gone, The Mission Impossible franchises, Pixels, 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: Patriots Day, and most recently Maxine Plus. She's been in 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: spectacular shows Boston Public, The Original True Detective, The Path, Echoes, 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: and a brand news series that I am enjoying very much, 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 4: Apple TV Plus's Bad Monkey with Vince Vaughan. She's such 27 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: a complex and versatile actor. She has an epic career. 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: But before we got into that, there's one thing I 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: have to address with her. While doing my usual research 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: for this converse, I came across one tiny detail that, well, 31 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: it truly rocked me, and I don't think I would 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: be doing just as her her story or to you 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: listeners if I didn't address it head on. Michelle is 34 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: a blue ribbon hog wrestler. I repeat. As a child, 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: Michelle wrestled hogs with such skill she was proclaimed the 36 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: best of the best of all other hog wrestling children. Now, 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: what is hog wrestling? Why are so many children doing it? 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: What happens when the hog wins? And most of all, 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: why did she leave behind a promising career in hog 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: wrestling for Hollywood. We're about to find out and learn 41 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: all about this ancient Iowan tradition. Here she is champion 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: hog wrestler. Michelle Monaghan Bubble and Squeak. I love it, 43 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 4: Bubble and squeak. 44 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 5: Gana bubble and squeaker, cooking every move from the nut before. 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: Hi Michelle, Hi Brian. 46 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: How are you. 47 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: I'm doing all right? How are you? 48 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm great? Thank you? 49 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? Where are you hanging out here this summer? Are you? 50 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: Are you overseas? 51 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: I was overseas and i just returned from Thailand, so 52 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm back in Los Angeles. 53 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: All right, Well, welcome home. 54 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. 55 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I have been diving into your your life and 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: career here a little bit, and now I'm a bigger 57 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: fan now than I was before. I understand. You grew 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: up in Iowa. Winthrop. 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I did Winthrop, Iowa, very small town in northeast Iowa. Yeah. 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: What do you think that gave you as a base? 61 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's such a good it's such a great question. 62 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's interesting. You know, growing up 63 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: you don't know any different, right, It's like wherever you 64 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: grew up is that's your backyard, and that's what you're 65 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: familiar with. It gave me a strong sense of community. 66 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: I grew up in a town of a little over 67 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: seven hundred people. I had thirty nine people in my 68 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: graduating class. We were a tight knit community and you 69 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: really loved your neighbors and you were just there for 70 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: one another. So I think it gave me a great 71 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of backbone, also a strong work ethic. My dad 72 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: was a farmer, My mom also ran a daycare from home. 73 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: We fostered children all growing up. My parents were really 74 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: incredible members of the community. And so that's what it 75 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: gave me. It gave me my family and my community 76 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: for sure. And then what's so interesting about kind of 77 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: coming from a small town like that, I guess to 78 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of think everything is possible and maybe nothing is possible, 79 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and depending on how maybe who are raised. You know, 80 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I happen to be raised with like you can do 81 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: anything you want to do. And I was naive enough 82 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: to think, like, yeah I can, why not? And so 83 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I set out for bigger cities and kind of greater things. 84 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: And then once I discovered, you know, the rest of 85 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: the world, I sort of never looked back. But it's 86 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: always maintained having had that great small town as a foundation. 87 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, part of the reason I ask, right 88 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: is because you and now this is so dumb, all right, Admittedly, 89 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: but you think about like I don't know, particularly people 90 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: who have families and the entertainment business who start out 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: maybe at a super young age. You're from la or 92 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: for you're from New York, and not that there's anything 93 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: wrong with both of those places. My children will come 94 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: from those places but same but but but a diverse 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 4: a different kind of upbringing in background. There is going 96 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: to be something about you that is different that now 97 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: people may not be able to articulate what that thing is. 98 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: But like you, for example, you were a blue ribbon 99 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: hog wrestler. Now what this Now? What this true? No one, 100 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: No one would be able to say, oh, yeah, she's 101 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: the hog wrestler. But that experience in and of itself 102 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: is is you're going to present yourself to the world 103 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: in at least a slightly different way with it with 104 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: a slightly different perspective. 105 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's funny you mentioned that, but yes 106 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: it's true. I don't think they do that anymore at 107 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: our County Fair. I don't think Peter would be down 108 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: for it. But that was a normal that was like 109 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: a normal, that was a normal thing that you would 110 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: enter into a hog wrestling contest, and people probably still 111 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but you basically my best friend, 112 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: and she's still my best friend. I just saw a 113 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago in Iowa. I was back there 114 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: and she and I were probably I don't know, everybody 115 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: did it from around town. I mean, that was just 116 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: the thing you did. You get in a big, probably 117 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: about fifteen foot diameter pin and it's full of mud, 118 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: and there's a hog in there, and there's a barrel, 119 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: and you run around and you chase the hog and 120 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: you try to, like as fast as you can get 121 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the hog into the barrel. It's actually cruel and unusual 122 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: when I now look back at it. 123 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: But at the time, my friend and I happened to 124 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: be really good at it, and we won the Blue 125 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: Ribbon that summer, and so that is, you know, But 126 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: you're right, like those are the things that defined me. 127 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: You know. It's just like I just said, I was 128 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: suspect from my brother's wedding, and we were laughing because 129 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: I was looking at all the cornfields that are just 130 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: surround my mom and dad's house. Of course, I used 131 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: to go like God. I used to walk beans, I 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: used to cancel, I used to pick up rock like 133 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: all those things that are just very Midwestern. Yeah, but 134 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that really really defined me. Those were my first jobs. 135 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: I spent so much time in those fields, and you know, 136 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: I still when I go back, I have so much 137 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: nostalgia for it. 138 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I grew up in large part the 139 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: same way. So just I mean, just to make you 140 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: feel like you have nothing to worry about. Mine were 141 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: distinctly Southern as opposed to the Midwestern, right, got it. 142 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: So it was more shrimping, okay, but but frog gigging 143 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: a thing that I that I have done. Yes, this 144 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: is Oh my god, have I never told the maybe 145 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to get canceled? And I was just like 146 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: trying to make you feel better, you know, because they 147 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: were by the way, they were eaten, so they uh, 148 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: this is in the middle of the night dark you 149 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: wear my this is when I was a kid. This 150 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: is not a joke. My mining helmets, you know, uh no, 151 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: not mining lights on the on your forehead like like 152 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: a miner. You go with a cane pole in a 153 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: canoe down a creek a little river, and you shine 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: from your forehead the light onto the banks and you 155 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: see the underbelly of the frog and the frog freezes 156 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: in the light and then oh my god, all right, producers, 157 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: it's got this. Then you you have a long other 158 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: pole with a little gig on it. Yeah, and you 159 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: get the thing as close as you can through the 160 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: frog and then yeah, and then you can you gig it. Yeah, 161 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: and then you take them home and you eat it. 162 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: But that, yeah, it's frog hunting. It's frog hunting. 163 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: Hunting. 164 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: We go, we go deer hunting, you know where I 165 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: come from, but we also eat the deer. But also like, 166 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: how do they how do they? You know, frog legs. 167 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: I've had frog legs before in France, and that's just 168 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: another form of frog gigging. But it's just, uh, it's 169 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the French French gigging. I guess I don't know. 170 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: All right, enough about frogs and hogs. What else did 171 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: you do as a kid, Like, did you have other 172 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 4: hot Were you into sports or I. 173 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't wasn't Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't into sports at all. 174 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: I like being around sports, Like I I was a 175 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: track manager. I was like a wrestling cheerleader. For one year, 176 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: I did sill which are otherwise known as like the flags. 177 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: I did that for several years. In high school, which 178 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: I loved and I still like to throw a flag 179 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: around the backyard. I babysat. I mean, I did a 180 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: speech class, I did debates. Yeah, my brother did drama. 181 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: And then, you know, for lack of anything else to do, 182 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: I sort of followed in my brother's footsteps and I 183 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: joined him in the school play. And I think that 184 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: was the first time and I didn't have any desire 185 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: to be an actress at that point at all. It 186 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: took me until my early twenties to discover that, but 187 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: I remember that feeling of being on stage, and I 188 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: remember loving that kind of collaboration with everyone so much. 189 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: So that was probably my first introduction to what ultimately 190 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: I was going to I was going to do. 191 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you moved it to Chicago, the big city to 192 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: study journalism. Was journalism the plan that journal was that 193 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: the plan. 194 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Journalism was always the plan. You know. I grew up 195 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: in a family that we loved current events. We watched 196 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: we sat down and watched the nightly news of Tom 197 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Brokaw every single night. I loved journalism. I loved the news, 198 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: and I really really wanted to be a journalist and an 199 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: investigative journalist. Broadcast news. And when I think about it, 200 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe that was the closest thing I thought 201 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: that I could be, to be on camera. Maybe that 202 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: had something to do with it too. I don't know, 203 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: because when you grew up in a town, it was 204 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: like some I heard people, I don't even think, like 205 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: you think you could be an actor or anything like that. 206 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: So I went and I studied journalism at Columbia College 207 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and you know, I loved it. It was 208 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: it was really my dream. And I had started modeling 209 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I modeled for Montgomery Ward for Target, 210 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: and that's really how I put myself through school. I 211 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: really thought that that was the end all and be all. 212 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: And then I realized my senior year I wasn't. I 213 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: wasn't cut out for journalism. I didn't. I found out 214 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I was going to have to go back to small 215 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: markets such as Iowa and essentially be a one man band, 216 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, wait a second. I 217 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: really liked the big city. The modeling was going pretty well. 218 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: I was paying my bills and saving some money, and uh, 219 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: and then I had this overwhelming feeling I needed to 220 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: move to New York and I had a buddy that 221 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: moved there, and I moved. I moved in with him, 222 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: coincided with a terrible breakup with someone, so it just 223 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: all the cards kind of fell into right into place, 224 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: and moved to New York. 225 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: Okay, so before before New York, how did you start model? Like? 226 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 4: Did you find an agent? Did you there's a mid photo? 227 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: So I was scouted in Iowa and like Cedar Rapids, 228 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Iowa and yeah, yeah, So it was one of those 229 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: things like we think that you could be a model 230 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: that can take some photos. And I loved the sound 231 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: of that, you know, I'd been told that before and 232 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: didn't really think too much of it. But I was 233 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: also the gal looking through all those Sears catalogs and 234 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, just loving all the ladies in there, you know, 235 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: loving all the models. And so when I had the 236 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to take some test photos, I guess I got 237 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: very excited. And shortly thereafter I was able to secure 238 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: an agent and agency Elite Model Agency in Chicago, and 239 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: my dad would drive me four and a half hours. 240 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: This was a big deal for him to take time 241 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: off of work to take me into Chicago to dry. 242 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: He wouldn't even he never missed a day work in 243 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: his life unless it was to drive me into work 244 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: for Montgomery Wards. That was a really big deal, Like, 245 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, they really believed in me, and you know, 246 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: I was making I was probably making six hundred bucks 247 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: for the day, which is a lot of money. Yeah, 248 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: and you know he didn't even make me payper gas. 249 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: So that was awfully sweet. So that was it. That 250 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: was it, And so I knew, you know, while I 251 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: was in high school, I was able to make that money. 252 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: And so I thought, gosh, I grew up very humble, humble, 253 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: and my folks were always like, listen, we want you 254 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: to go to college, but we can't help out that much, 255 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: you know. And so you know, I saw a great opportunity. 256 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I love modeling. I can make 257 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: some tuition here and I can go to college and 258 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: studying journalism in a big city. Like perfect. 259 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome. So okay, so then you go, it's 260 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: the perfect time you decide I'm not going back to 261 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: small markets, I'm going to the big city. For you. 262 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: At that moment, was it about just getting to New 263 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: York or did you have a plan. 264 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I wanted to live in New York. By 265 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: that time, I had been there for a couple of 266 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: jobs and gigs, and there was just something so special 267 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: about that city that I felt really connected to, and 268 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: I really there was this feeling that something was going 269 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: to happened for me there and I didn't know what 270 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: it was, but I knew that I'd be okay because 271 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: I could continue to model and I would just kind 272 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: of make my way, and for an entire year, that's 273 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of what I did. I just went on casting, 274 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: so I made enough money to pay my rent. I 275 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: found another roommate, and it was great. And then commercials 276 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: started coming through. 277 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: Through the modeling, through the through the model, through. 278 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: The modeling, right and then you know, I think it 279 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: was like a secret dealtorant commercial. It was a it 280 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: was a face wash commercial. It was a clean and clear. 281 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: There was a Tampax commercial. And there it was like 282 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: all of it was going and then, you know, and 283 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: it was great because I was making money and I was, 284 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, kind of paying off my loans now at 285 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: that stage. And then sure enough, an audition came through 286 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: my modeling agent for a role on the show called 287 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Young Americans, and it was this yeah on CW and 288 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: I think it came through the modeling agencies because they 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: were looking for a model type and the agent was saying, listen, 290 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you've had good luck doing these commercials. You know you 291 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: should give it a shot. And I thought, yeah, I 292 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: don't have anything else. Sleeper was like why not? And 293 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: I got the gig. I got the gig and they 294 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: were like, can you be on a train to Baltimore 295 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow at ten am? And I was like wait what? 296 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: And sure enough, you know, I was on a train 297 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: at Baltimore and started working with Kate Bosworth and Kate 298 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Minnig and Ian Summerhoulder. It was such a wonderful cast, 299 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: but I had no idea what I was doing when 300 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean to tell you like, it took me a 301 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: whole season to learn what my mark was. I mean, 302 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I was so green. It was so green, but it 303 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: was it was such an amazing opportunity. And I think 304 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: that's really when I was like, wow, I loved it again. 305 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: It was that collaboration. I was familiar with the camera 306 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: from modeling, so I felt comfortable with it and I 307 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: loved the people. And then it was when I got 308 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: back to New York after that gig, I thought Oh wow, 309 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I should find an agent, you know, maybe I 310 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: should take this more seriously. 311 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: How many episodes did you do on that? 312 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: I think I did gosh, I'd hate to say maybe five, okay, 313 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: and it got it got canceled after the first season, 314 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: and it was just a I think I was just 315 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: a guest star. But I think I did five. 316 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: Five. 317 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: But you were there long enough to you know, because 318 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: a lot of guest stars sometimes it's hard to have 319 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 4: the time and feel comfortable enough to figure things out. 320 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: But being there five weeks doing five episodes or however 321 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: long it was for five episodes, you can kind of 322 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: get your feet under you feel comfortable with the people, 323 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 4: you know, all of those things that are just sort 324 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: of inherently difficult totally. 325 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: And we were all just a bunch of young kids too, 326 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: so it was all it felt like summer camp in Baltimore. 327 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: We were jet skiing on a lake and are yeah, 328 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I come on, man, it. 329 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 5: Was like we were having a you know, for sure, 330 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 5: I felt co Yeah, this I old girl felt right 331 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 5: at home. 332 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I was good. I was totally good. I was like, 333 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: do they have beer in Baltimore? They do fantastic. 334 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: Well, pretty shortly after that role on Boston Public. Yes, 335 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: now talk about what kind of doors that opened for you, 336 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: because this in terms of shows, would you consider it break? 337 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely my first break. It was a 338 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: really big break. And I think, if I remember it correctly, 339 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: I had auditioned for a David Kelly show at the time, 340 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't get the gig. But then he turned 341 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: around and he wrote me Kimberly woods As. I can't 342 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: believe I remember that name, but it was because it 343 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: was like my first gig, and that was a big 344 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: deal because I was living in New York at the time, 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: and I remember having to come out to LA living 346 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: in Manhattan Beach in a little apartment. I was shooting 347 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: at Rosecrant Studios, And again, that was an amazing cast, 348 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: just such a beautiful, welcoming cast, and I got to 349 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: play this teacher, this young teacher, and I learned a 350 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: lot on that show. I mean, that's really where I 351 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: learned how to act. That was just that was the 352 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: beginning because I had never studied acting. So every job 353 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: that I went to from there in on out was 354 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: really acting one on one, acting two two. It's I 355 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: learned everything from my fellow coast and directors. 356 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: You get a huge role in a very very big film, 357 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: Kiss Kiss, Bang bang. Is this happening at the same 358 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: time the Boston public is happening, So. 359 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Boston Public happens, And then yes, it's happening. It's basically 360 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: happening right around the same time I'm in town. I 361 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: auditioned for the role, and originally it was somebody else 362 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: that was going to play Robert's part, and then I 363 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: knew they they they were interested me, and I think 364 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: the movie kind of went away for a few months, 365 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: and then I randomly got a call saying, you know, 366 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: Shane Black wants you to come in and read with him. 367 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I remember calling it my agent at the time who 368 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I got after Young Americans, who I'm still with today. 369 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: By the way, twenty six years I was with her 370 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: last night. 371 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: We realized, what's for you? 372 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, well that's a testament to her, my friend. 373 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: Twenty six years with the same agent. 374 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 375 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I basically knocked on her door in New York when 376 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: I had that job of young Americans, and I said, 377 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: I have this job, but I don't have an agent. 378 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: So first of all, that got me in the door, right, 379 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know, but I think 380 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: maybe this is what I'm supposed to do. I don't 381 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: know really what I'm doing, but I promised all work hard, 382 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and she was like, I believe you. Let's give it 383 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: a shot. And so I remember calling her. I was flow. 384 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: They flew me out here. I was staying at what 385 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: was the Renaissance Hotel in Hollywood. It was close to 386 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, and I was getting ready to drive to 387 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: the Warner Brothers to read with Shane, and I called 388 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Bonnie up in New York and her agent, her assistant 389 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: put me on hold because I'm calling her up to 390 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: be to say to her, I can't go in and 391 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: do this, like this is like way over my head, 392 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: this material. I have no idea what I'm doing. And 393 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: in that moment, of course, I hear myself telling me 394 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm on hold for ages, and all of a sudden, 395 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: I just hang up the damn phone, and I was like, 396 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: you know what that means. I have to go in. 397 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: I have to do this. 398 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: Audition, you know, and say, God I did because it 399 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: changed my life. 400 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: Wow. And that's just a number of times now I 401 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: always go up against that I can't do this or oh, 402 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm scared to do this or you know that fear 403 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: of me. And I always go back to that moment 404 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: because that was such a fundamental moment and the perseverance 405 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: you know that it takes to be an actor, because 406 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: it did. It was an integral moment that changed my life. 407 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: And I sat down and I read with Shane. It 408 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: was a great reading, and I think the following week 409 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: they offered me the role and I went in and 410 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I read with Robert and it was an amazing It 411 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: was amazing, and that that experience is one of the 412 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: highlights of my career. I just had such an amazing 413 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: time working with Robert and Shane and of course Val. 414 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: We were all super tight and again I learned so much. 415 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: Robert taught me how to improv on that on that 416 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: on that film, not that we needed better words than 417 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Shading Black's words because they're so brilliant, but you know, Robert, 418 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: you know, Oh, so that was awesome. That was like, 419 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: that was a huge turning point for me. And I 420 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: think it was in the middle of shooting that I 421 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: got an audition for North Country and then that was 422 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: a very another really big film for me, and the 423 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: cast was incredible and still very dear to me. Nicky 424 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: Carro and Charlie's and Jeremy. 425 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you go on to run at this time? 426 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: Do you give credit to kiss Kiss Bang Bang? Is that? What? 427 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 4: Did it? 428 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: A hundred? I would say one hundred percent. It's interesting. 429 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 6: There was a film that I did, and it's important 430 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: for actors to hear this too. I did a small 431 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 6: role in Constantine with Keanu Reeves. This was so many 432 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 6: years ago, was structured by Francis Lawrence and I get 433 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: a call from Francis Lawrence after I shoot it and 434 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 6: he says, I'm so sorry, but I have to cut 435 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 6: you out of the film. 436 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so green. I call it Bonnie my agent, 437 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, do I have to give the money back? Like, 438 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm so naive? Right, He's liked, of course, you don't 439 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: have to give them money back. Of course you don't 440 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: have to give them money back. Well, it turns out 441 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: like the acting was he assured me, it was good. 442 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: He's like, but it was just the storyline was too long, 443 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: and it was it was unnecessary, so they had to 444 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: cut me out. But what happened with that cut footage 445 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: is that Francis Lawrence actually happened to give it to 446 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: JJ Abrams and he said, you're getting ready to cast 447 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: this film. There's this actress that I worked with who's 448 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: really good. Here have a look. And JJ Abrams saw 449 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: that because I've never even seen it myself, I should 450 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: ask Francis. I ran into him a year ago and 451 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: he apologized again for cutting. 452 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: Me out of the throm. I was like, are you 453 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 5: kidding me, dude? You got me mission impossible three. So 454 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: that's a great story. So that was like bang bang 455 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: put me on the map. But it was like Hollywood 456 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: works in those mysterious ways. You know, just because you 457 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: get cut out of something doesn't mean. I always remind 458 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: people it's not because it wasn't good necessarily, and people 459 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 5: people talk. 460 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, this is a small town, this is a 461 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: small industry, and people want to work with talented people, 462 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: good people, like minded people. And so that's that's that 463 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: got me the audition for JJ and then I read 464 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: with Tom and then that was that was it. 465 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: And it makes a whole lot of sense psychologically also, right, 466 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: because I'm going to assume that your work was really 467 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: good in Constantine. By the way, when you start talking 468 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: about Constantine. I'm like, dang it when my researcher there's 469 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: I don't see Constantine here. And then you start telling 470 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: the story and I'm like, oh, okay, well that makes 471 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: sense why it's not okay? Yeah no, but but also right, 472 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: you do good work on a story that makes the 473 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: movie too long or it's you know, superfluous whatever, which 474 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: is nobody knows until you put it together. But you've 475 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: all got just go with me. You also have Francis 476 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: who now feels bad, right, no, but I mean for real, 477 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: and so like I'm sure that he just wanted to 478 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: do you a solid because he felt like you were 479 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: really good and whatever. But he also in his mind 480 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: is going like, man, that sucks because she was really good. 481 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: But you know what, let me see, let me see 482 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: if I can do something that is how hot. People 483 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: never talk about that, but that like it does work. 484 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: That because good people who are doing good work, like 485 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 4: people want to support that and continue to help in 486 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 4: a way. And that's why, which I think, which is 487 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: where you're going, not to take your words, but like 488 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: sometimes doing those smaller things are really important because of 489 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 4: a relationship because you know and you never know what 490 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: it could breed. 491 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I couldn't. I couldn't agree with that more. 492 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 493 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I got to mention this because of my old 494 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: pal Amy Ryan. You work on Gone, Baby Gone with 495 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: Casey Affleck. Now you've done the action, You've done the 496 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 4: kiss kiss bang bang, You've done some television. Is this 497 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 4: like your first like drama drama? Right? How was that 498 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: experience different for you? And really just you can talk 499 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: about Amy Ryan. 500 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I Oh, she's amazing. I think my first stab 501 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: at the drama, I would say, was North Country. That's 502 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of oh right, yeah, no, no, no, no no, 503 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: but that was but that was totally different. Gone Baby 504 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Gone was It's just an intense film. The subject matter 505 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I felt very very close to. It was emotional, it 506 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: felt personal. It was just in working with Ben and 507 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Amy who Amy is just so extraord in that role. 508 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: That was one of the times that I'd seen an 509 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: actress just so lived in, like so lived in a role, 510 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: lost and lost in the role and in all the 511 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: best ways. I mean, she was so fantastic. And also 512 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: just shooting in Boston with Ben and Casey, their hometown, 513 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: everything felt very so, very real and raw. For me 514 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 1: for that film, and it's it's still like when I 515 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: really think about it, it's still affecting like it really 516 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and it's oftentimes the film that people will come up 517 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: and still want to talk about, which is like so 518 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: rare to have a film that's still so thought provoking, 519 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: so provocative that people want to weigh in on what 520 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: would you do at the end? You know? That was 521 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: that was just people walked away from that film shook, 522 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: and it was because of all of those performances and Harris. 523 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: I'd never seen a method actor before until I met 524 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 1: Ed Harris. I remember, you know, sitting in the makeup 525 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: trailer and he'd come in and I'd start chatting him 526 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: up naively, and he wasn't chatting me back up, and 527 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: I kind of just thought, what's going on here? I 528 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: really was still at that point pretty naive about various 529 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: processes of actors, and it was clear, you know that 530 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: he was in his using his very specific headspace and 531 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: in his character. So that was very informative for me 532 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: that role. I mean, I just I have so much 533 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: respect for Amy Ryan's I've been a fan of hers 534 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: from that day forward. 535 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, she is fantastic part of why I bring 536 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: up that movie as well, and I hope that you 537 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: don't take this the wrong way. I don't know what 538 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: that even means, but I think that my brain associates 539 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: you probably first from that movie, and then you did 540 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 4: Patriots Day, and you've worked time and again those guys. 541 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: I thought you were a boss tonight, Like that's what 542 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: I thought. I just sort of assumed that you were 543 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 4: in that crew, and I think part of it, which 544 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: is really where I'm finally about to get to a question, 545 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: which is ya, you seem to have found people or 546 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: people have found you that you like to work with, 547 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: and the relationships and the associations and the projects keep multiplying. 548 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: Is that just because you guys enjoyed working together? Is 549 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 4: there something about that crew I guess in particular that 550 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: you keep wanting to go back into it. I guess 551 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: just talk to me a little bit about that. 552 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Yeah, I mean I always say I 553 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: think it's just you really just connect with people. I mean, 554 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: when you're working that intensely for that many days in 555 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: a row, You're either going to really really like somebody 556 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and go like, hey we should do this again. You know, 557 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna say, were you going to say, like, this 558 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: was a great experience. We don't need to repeat this, 559 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: but it was good and I learned something and whatever, 560 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: and there are it has been those experiences, you know. Specifically, 561 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: it was Mark Wahlberg. We did Patriots Day, and I 562 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of scenes in that film, but 563 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: those scenes that we had were really intimate and really emotional, 564 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: and we just really connected. I really respect Mark as 565 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: an actor so much. He's incredibly disciplined. It reminds me 566 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot of Tom Cruise actually, and there's just a 567 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's just a real quiet confidence that 568 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: I just respect about him, and specifically in that role. 569 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago, they were pretty family 570 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: planned together, you know, and Mark was said, hey, what 571 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: about Michelle. We had a good time, Like that was 572 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: a drama and we had a good time making that. 573 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: He was like, so he was like, this is you know, 574 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: in action comedies, Like I think I think that we'd 575 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: be good this. You know, we could, we could pull 576 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: it off. And so for me, I was so grateful 577 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: to get to reutine with him, because again, I think 578 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: he's so great. He's one of these just great actors 579 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: that just understands tone so well and can play the 580 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: comedy and the drama and the action. I mean, he 581 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: can really do it all. He's a really unique performer 582 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: like that, and I just I doore working with him, 583 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: no doubt we're going to get to do it again. 584 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh is that a spoiler alert? 585 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe did something? No? 586 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: All right? Do you do you have a preferred genre? 587 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: I mean I worked in so many different types of 588 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: movies action, comedy, deep, dark, boiling over drama. Is there 589 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 4: something that you prefer? And if so or not, are 590 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: you looking for a balance or do you not care 591 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: about that? Do you not concern yourself with that? I? 592 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Yes, this is such a good question. It's funny because 593 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing this now for so long, over twenty years, 594 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: and I really have dabbled in it all in all 595 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: of different genres. I've kind of started out in the 596 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: comedy space, you know, even the Heartbreak Kid, Made of Honor, 597 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: the rom com com Baby Gone, then did a Shift, Action, 598 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: and so all of those are real facets of me, 599 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, they're my personality traits. I really I love drama. 600 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm an emotional person. I love to connect and so 601 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: I would say like that would be my first instinct. 602 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: I loved the emotion. I love playing the heart and 603 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: the soul and the nuance and all of those things. 604 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: But I find comedy to be the most challenging, and 605 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm drawn to comedy. I feel 606 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: really grateful to be doing comedy now with Bad Monkey 607 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: coming out with Vince Faughn and Bill Lawrence White loaded. 608 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of shooting a TV series 609 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: for Netflix called Echoes a couple of years ago, and 610 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: it was such an intense experience that I remember telling myself, 611 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm drinking comedy after this, like enough with the drama. 612 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 7: It's like this is too much. It's like, oh my god, 613 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 7: it's so exhausting. And then sure enough, you know, Bill 614 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 7: the Lawrence called about three or four months later, and 615 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 7: I thought, wow, heck, I really manifested that one quick 616 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 7: with Bad Monkey. But I was so grateful because I 617 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 7: really wanted to get back to my comedic roots and 618 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 7: I and I and I am giving you a long 619 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 7: winded answer here, but it was interesting going toe to 620 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 7: toe with Vince because I was like, WHOA. 621 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: I feel a little rusty. I was like, oh my gosh, 622 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: I feel our little Dusty a little rusty, and he's click, 623 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, he im proms like lightning lightning fast. And 624 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: that was a great challenge for me to get back 625 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: in and understand, you know, get back into tones. Bill 626 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: has really specific Tony's very like satirical, but he's also 627 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: it's also super grounded and real and vulnerable at the 628 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: same time. So you kind of play this, you kind 629 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: of play that that balance. And so I would say 630 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: I live in the space of dramedy. I would say, 631 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: that's what I'm I'm gearing up to to do. Is 632 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: something in the space that. 633 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: Is such a hedge? 634 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, I know, it is. 635 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 6: It is. 636 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: It is. It's such a hedge. But it's so true though, 637 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: and it's its own genre now. But I feel like 638 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: that's the truest to life, to me, right and to 639 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: all of us right, Like, I feel like that's the 640 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: space in which we all live in. That's my life. 641 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: I'm equal parts drama and I'm equal parts comedy. I mean, 642 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: that's it. You know, I'm either laughing or I'm crying, 643 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, And so I think creatively that's where I'm 644 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: kind of at. I'm kind of you know, and when 645 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: I look at a lot of the work that I've done, 646 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, True Detectives. I mean, that's straight up drama. 647 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: The Path was very much drama, you know, Bad Monkey, 648 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: very comedic. White Lotus now it's like, we know, we 649 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: know what that's onto it, that's its own genre. But 650 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: I'm loving that. 651 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: What is White Loatus? 652 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's a comedy. It's it's 653 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a dark comedy. Yeah, I do. I 654 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: think it's a dark comedy. 655 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 4: What happens in season three, Oh my gosh. 656 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: You know, I can't. I'd lose my home, probably take 657 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: my children. 658 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: You know. 659 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: All I can say is because it's been said before, 660 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, this season is is like one and two 661 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: on steroids. It is very big. We have much bigger 662 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: set pieces. We we spend a lot of time, of 663 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: course in the White Lotus hotel, but we also venture 664 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: outside of the hotel, and that's something I don't think 665 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: that we've previously seen in the earlier seasons. We have 666 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: a really big cast. It's it's even more international, and 667 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: it's in Thailand, so there are very specific elements of Thailand. 668 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of light and a lot of dark, 669 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 1: and it's it's perfect for the tone of a white 670 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: lotus because we can just explore all of that. 671 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: Good answer, very good. I wasn't I wasn't even supposed 672 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 4: to ask you, it says here, But I did anyway 673 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: because I knew it. I knew you wouldn't. I knew 674 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: you wouldn't answer. After Boston Public you, I mean, thankfully 675 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 4: for you. You went on and you were doing a lot 676 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: of film, but not so much television. True Detective kind 677 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 4: of brought you back. But I mean that was like 678 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 4: really early early iteration of this, like what do you 679 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 4: call it? Very early iteration, very and so very film, 680 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 4: almost like, well, here's a story that we want to 681 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: take eight hours to tell instead of two correct, right, correct, 682 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 4: instead of a movie. 683 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: Yes. And I remember having those exact conversations because it 684 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: was such an early iteration of television that people didn't 685 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: even want to refer to it as television, right, right, 686 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: because there was still that stigma, which of course no 687 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: longer exists, but that was at the forefront of that. 688 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: And I remember probably been saying, like, Matthew mcconnie's never 689 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: done television. Matthew went on a big break and a 690 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: big hiatus. You know, if you recall, and he'll say this, 691 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: he was like, I didn't want to do wrong comms anymore, 692 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to do these comedies. I really wanted to 693 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: to explore different genres and really push my work creatively. 694 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: And on the heels of that came True Detective, and 695 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: so I think people were surprised that that was something 696 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: he was doing. So and then there was Woody, and 697 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: then Nick hadn't you know, I think this was the 698 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: first series that he'd written. 699 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 4: Did that help bring you in? 700 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean listen, that writing brought me in. 701 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean obviously in Matthew and Woody, but the writing 702 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: was so incredible. And I remember that Carrie sent me 703 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: three of the episodes, I think the first two and 704 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: then the real pivotal one for my character. And I 705 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: can't remember what episode that was, but it was five 706 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: or six, it was somewhere down the line. And when 707 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: I read that one, I was like, oh my gosh, 708 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know everything if 709 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: between and I remember zooming with Carrie at the time, 710 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: taking a meeting with him, and he was wonderful and 711 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: I could tell that he was a very special creative 712 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, let's let's do it. And I'm 713 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: so grateful I went on that journey because it was 714 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't long after I remember just being on set 715 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: that I felt that it felt palpable, that I really 716 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: did feel like we were embarking on something really special. 717 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 4: Bad Monkey out well right now with Vince Vaughan, Jody Turner, Smith, 718 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 4: Rob Delaney, amazing cast. 719 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: Meredith Hagner. 720 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Meredith Hagner, I have to ask you, so, 721 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: so Bill, you were allowed to improv? 722 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I mean the fact is, with Bill's writing, 723 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: you don't you don't have to. You don't have to improv. 724 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean because his writing is genius. But he comes 725 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: out of the world and it's like improv and writing, 726 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: and so he's not pressure with his words. In fact, 727 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: he's so quick that when he's on set and he's 728 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: standing over by the monitors, he may think of a 729 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: better line, what he thinks is a better line than 730 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: what he wrote, you know. And so what happens with 731 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Vince and he, who have known each other for over 732 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: thirty years, so they have a real comedic shorthand, is 733 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: that you essentially turn up as prepared as you can 734 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: be so that you can get the words on the page. 735 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: So then when they when they say let's play, you 736 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: just like you just get ready to roll because you've 737 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: got Bill over at the monitors just like shouting different 738 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: lines at you, different takes. And by the way, there's 739 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: nothing It sounds terrible to say, and I shouldn't lean 740 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: on it too much, but there is nothing more gratifying 741 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: than hearing Bill Lawrence or Mike White like laughing over 742 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: there at the It's just it's it's just the most 743 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: like it fills your cup in a way. You're like, oh, 744 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: I got I got it. I made you laugh, like 745 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: I got your tone. And you know, because I consider 746 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: these guys comedic geniuses, you know, So it was very 747 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: much like that. And Vince is so funny and so quick, 748 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: and even if I didn't say something that was right 749 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: or funny, that their caliber and they just pick you 750 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: right up and they roll with it and they make it. 751 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: They make it good. So it was a really fun 752 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: loose environment because I was coming off the heels, of 753 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: course of doing a lot of dramatic stuff. So to 754 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: come into a creative environment where like anything goes basically 755 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: and Bill was like, I'm gonna push you so far, 756 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be so uncomfortable, you're not gonna 757 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: want to do it, but just do it anyway and 758 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out and that we'll go this direction, 759 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: you know. And I appreciated that because he gave me 760 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to just make just make a jackass out 761 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: of myself, you know, And that's kind of what you 762 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: need to do. And that's why I say, you know, 763 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: comedy is hard, because half the battle and comedy is 764 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: just getting out of your own way, right. And then 765 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: once you get out of your own way, and you're 766 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: with supportive people who just love the process no matter what. 767 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: They just like to have a good time, which is 768 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: everything that Bill is and everything that Vince is, you know, 769 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: you're going to be in good hands. 770 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 4: I did a small role in a movie with Vince 771 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: sixteen years ago. Now what's what's significant about this is 772 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 4: this was during the other writer strike. 773 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: Oh yes, it was two and eight because I just 774 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: had my daughter and we were on strike and I 775 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: was home. Yes, I remember it, yes, of course, So. 776 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: The writers were on strike and we shot this movie. 777 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 4: Vince was a producer, so he was able under his 778 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 4: title of producer to alter the dialogue. 779 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh you're kiddings right. 780 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 4: So writers couldn't. So when you were just telling that story, 781 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: it was bringing back this like crazy flashbacks of us 782 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 4: assembling in his trailer in the morning before shooting and 783 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 4: essentially rewriting the script and then getting on set. And 784 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: he had one of those I don't even know what 785 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 4: you would call it, except like a classic Vince Vaughn 786 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 4: monologue where he just goes on. And we were scheduled 787 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 4: to do this for a day and a half, this 788 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 4: extended scene. And I am telling you, I'm not exaggerating. 789 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 4: Every single take this speech was different. This speech was 790 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 4: dramatically different. It was it was you know, and there 791 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 4: were words you're like, yep, I know what you mean, 792 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: Like I mean, like ninety seconds ish of a speech 793 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 4: that was different every single time. And now here's the 794 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 4: story I don't think I've ever told. And I don't 795 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 4: know if he would like me telling this story, but 796 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 4: I guess we just were talking about him. So I'm 797 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 4: going to tell it. On the second day that we 798 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 4: were shooting this scene, and of course the coverage was 799 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 4: on him to start with, and then it moved, and 800 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 4: on the second day, where he was still ill improvising, 801 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 4: not on camera anymore, by the way the cameras are 802 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 4: directed at me and someone else, he found a joke 803 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 4: that he liked, and so he said, well, we have 804 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 4: to turn around. We have to get it. We have 805 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: to get it again. We have to because I've found 806 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: this thing. And this was the only other thing I'll 807 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 4: say is this was not an intimate two person scene. 808 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: There were like four of us who were sort of involved. Yeah, 809 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, one hundred extras, some of which may 810 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 4: have been at home by this point that we're behind him. 811 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 4: Everybody was called back in and we did another day 812 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 4: because he had found he had found something in this monologue, 813 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 4: and that's my memory of him, and I respect it. 814 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 4: I respect the hell out of it. 815 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the interesting thing right about him. Because 816 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: I finished the scene and I'm like, whoo, we're turning around. God, 817 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: does that feel good? That feels great? What do I 818 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: have to do tomorrow? You know what I mean? Of course, 819 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, is there at present as I am for 820 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: the other side, of course, but like I like, at 821 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: that point, like I let go of the words you 822 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like, I'm I'm like, it's okay. 823 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: But it just goes to show how much he loves 824 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: his job and that his brain is just always clicking. 825 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: He's always looking to find a joke to better himself. 826 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: And he's just so smart. He's such an astute actor, 827 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, and all you gotta do is just sit 828 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: down and hang out with him for fifteen minutes, like 829 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: in between takes. And this guy just knows everything about everything. 830 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: So it's no surprise that he can turn around and 831 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: every take be different because he knows so much. He's 832 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: so literate, you know, he's like a resource. He's like 833 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: an encyclopedia of jokes and information that he could well, 834 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: information that he can turns into jokes on a dime. 835 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 6: You know. 836 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that out now. I'm very very excited to 837 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: see it. I tried to get an advanced copy, but 838 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 4: nobody would send it to me. Uh. And then White 839 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 4: Lotus season three. Of course, when is this coming out? 840 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five? I think early twenty twenty five, so 841 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm guessing I'm hoping maybe first quarter. 842 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: How long were you in Thailand seven? I'm not digging. 843 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: No, you're not. No, you're totally good. Seven seven months, 844 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: seven months, yes, yes, months, Yes, it's seven months. 845 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I left. They have so much money. 846 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's crazy. Seven months. 847 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 848 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: You you basically when you sign on to do it, 849 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: you basically sign up to just go to wherever you're shooting. 850 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 7: Right. 851 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: This is how they did season one and two for 852 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: whatever that time period is. You know that that that 853 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: shoot schedule is. And for us it was a six 854 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: and a half six and a half seven months, And 855 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: it was a no brainer for me because this is 856 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, I've always wanted to work with Mike White, fortunately, 857 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: because it is such a big ensemble and there's so 858 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: many multiple storylines that eventually the storyline that you're a 859 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: part of will have a bit of a break and 860 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: then another storyline. So I did get to come home 861 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: for a week or two at a time. My family 862 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: came out and visited for a few months, so I 863 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: wasn't super disconnected, thank goodness, because seven months is a 864 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: really long time, and oddly it went by so fast. 865 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: It went by, so when you're you know, listen, we 866 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: we were a beautiful, beautiful country surrounded by ocean, you know, 867 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: beautiful hotels. I mean, this is not lost on me. 868 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: This is a once in a line. Was like, this 869 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: is seven months that I get, I get to be 870 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: here and I get to do you know, it was 871 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: pretty pretty rad. It was pretty rad. 872 00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 4: Well, congratulations on that and everything else. I am such 873 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 4: a big fan of you and your work and your 874 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 4: approach and you're the variety of projects and styles that 875 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 4: you have been fortunate to do, and we have been 876 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 4: fortunate that you have been able to do as well. 877 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 4: You taking a little time off now after Thailand. 878 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: I am I'm taking some time off. I'm taking some 879 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: time off. Yeah, I'm going to chill out and be 880 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: at home for a while. 881 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: Well, good congratulations. I also do have to mention mac 882 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 4: sack sack scene the new Tie West, a twenty four 883 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 4: horror film. Are you are you happy with that now 884 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 4: that that's done too? 885 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes? I really. I was such a huge fan of 886 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 1: those first two films of X and Pearl. I wanted 887 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: to collaborate with Tie so so badly on the third installment, 888 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, just whatever you got, whatever 889 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: role you got, buddy, I'm in And I was excited. Man. 890 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: It was such a cool cast and you know, led 891 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: by just the incredible Mia Goth And it was a 892 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: really really fun project. And it was the first project, 893 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: no kidding, in about fifteen years that I got to 894 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: shoot in la Is shot in la Yes, yeah, so 895 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I get to shoot down the road. 896 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: This is the best gig ever. 897 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 4: That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's been a while for me 898 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 4: as well. Well if you haven't seen, by the way, guys, 899 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,959 Speaker 4: all three of ty West horror films ex Pearl, Maxine 900 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 4: check them out for sure and Bad Monkey out now. Yeah, 901 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: available now. And of course no one will be watching 902 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 4: White Lotus whenever Mike decides to send that out. Michelle, 903 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 4: thank you so much, thank you, thank you so much 904 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 4: for coming by. I appreciate it so much and I 905 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 4: can't wait to see everything you've got going. Thank you 906 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 4: so much, Thank. 907 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: You so much. Such a pleasure to talk with. 908 00:51:52,680 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 4: You, Michelle. That was great. Thank you so much for 909 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 4: joining me today. I can't believe you're not giving us 910 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 4: any intel on White Lotus. I thought we were closer 911 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 4: than that. But I guess I'll just have to return 912 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,919 Speaker 4: those matching friendship necklaces I got for us. Anyway, check 913 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 4: out Michelle in Bad Monkey. It's on now and White 914 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 4: Lotus coming in the very near future for your listening pleasure. 915 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to be back next Tuesday, same time, same place, 916 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 4: and we may be talking a little football. That's right. 917 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 4: Week one of the NFL is upon us and we 918 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 4: have a Hall of Famer. 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