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Speaker 1: It is the ninth of March twenty twenty, and it

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Speaker 1: is time donk for Morning Combat. My name is Lou Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm joining with Brian Campbell. We are the host of

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Speaker 1: these programs. Of course he's also by the way from

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports. We are here to bring you the best

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Speaker 1: in combat sports talk each and every Monday. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get today. Let's see UFC two forty

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Speaker 1: eight's a big heavyweight upset in boxing. Will look ahead

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Speaker 1: to UFC Brasilia. And my man is fresh off the

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Speaker 1: bird from Vegas. I wasn't dear it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun fight week and obviously the fight

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Speaker 2: night delivered a lot of good and bad, a lot

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Speaker 2: of craziness, a lot of stuff to talk about, which

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Speaker 2: we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get into on the show today.

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Speaker 2: That is two Vegas trips in three weeks, so your

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Speaker 2: boys about to break down.

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Speaker 1: And also I noticed this. I was I would like

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Speaker 1: to say jealous, but it wouldn't do any good. But

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Speaker 1: it's just a jelsper of status thing. Brian Campbell, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you'll have noticed this. In an orchestra,

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Speaker 1: who sits closest to the conductor, the first chair players right,

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Speaker 1: he has media first chair. If you look at the

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Speaker 1: media rose, hold on, let me finish. If you look

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Speaker 1: at media rows, they put the UFC puts what they

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Speaker 1: consider to be their most coveted reporters closest to the cage.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. First, that's your new name, first row.

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Speaker 3: Care on that to come.

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Speaker 2: It's good, dude, but you know it's a crack and

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Speaker 2: we're back and we're standing on the rooftop shouting out

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Speaker 2: that yeah baby, we're ready to go.

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Speaker 3: But that nobody does this show, Luke, this is unique.

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Speaker 2: This is the only place that you can come correct

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Speaker 2: on a Monday morning and get your combat fixed. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Orchids of Combat. We're ready.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, before we get it started, do

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Speaker 3: you like your endings?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Happy? Let's get to this first though. Please do me

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Speaker 1: the more that's possible. I know, we say that a lot,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, we had a meeting today. Trust me when

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Speaker 2: The baby is growing inside the womb, right, we can

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Speaker 2: and if you want to see the head, get get

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Speaker 2: behind where we're.

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Speaker 1: Going, right. I like how you made a crowning joke.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, that's that's for the It's well, it's

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Speaker 2: crown of the head. It's sort of where it comes from.

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Speaker 1: You're just so, you're just so deeply disturbed that you

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Speaker 1: think it's a poop joke.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna tell the people about our nice photo

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Speaker 3: shoot this morning.

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Speaker 1: We had a photo shoot this morning. Brian and I

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Speaker 1: had to go tip to tip. It was fuck.

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Speaker 2: We were allowed to pick our own music. I put

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Speaker 2: on a line as you pick. I picked on some

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Speaker 2: like nineties like uh, you know, fashion types of runout

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Speaker 2: and shit.

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Speaker 1: You put on a put in the Trenches by Dying

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Speaker 1: Fetus and then Cold, Dark and Empty by Vinnie Patz.

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Speaker 1: So there you go, all right, ready to get started.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Let's do it. Brian Campbell first up. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: the UFC two forty eight main event, an the entire event,

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Speaker 1: of course, is in the books. The main event lackluster.

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Speaker 1: But the results are as follows. As most people know,

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Speaker 1: Israel Atasania retains his UFC middleweight title, defeating Joel Romero

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Speaker 1: by unanimous decision. But Brian Campbell the contras coming out

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Speaker 1: of Saturday was that if Atasigna is the winner, of

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Speaker 1: course he was fine. There's some people thinking that Romero

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Speaker 1: should have won. I don't really think there's much of

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Speaker 1: a case for that. But what everyone's really talking about

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Speaker 1: is how boring it was, how la lackluster it was,

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Speaker 1: how it did not live up to expectations. Now, I

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Speaker 1: did a whole thing on this for Morning Combat Dissected,

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Speaker 1: So I will give the baton to you, sir. This

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Speaker 3: I have co host credits on my contract.

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Speaker 1: This is great. If if the question is who is

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Speaker 1: to blame for the boring nature of the fight, what

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Speaker 2: The blame is split here, It's more in Romero. It's

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Speaker 2: everybody else is framing it. They blew it collectively, right.

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Speaker 2: They could have given us this. What I thought on

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Speaker 2: paper was this like potential fight of the year, this

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Speaker 3: At a piece of that middleweight title.

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Speaker 2: You would have thought, and you would have hoped, that

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Speaker 3: I'll take an l on this.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it through enough to realize two counterpunchers,

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Speaker 2: what happens if one of them refuses or both of

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Speaker 2: Out Of Sonya deserves to win this fight because he

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Speaker 2: actually made a championship adjustment in round three and four

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Speaker 2: and figured out a way that's basically, look, Romero, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna fight like an a hole. I'm gonna figure out

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Speaker 2: how to win this fight with the least amount of

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Speaker 2: exertion and not put myself in danger. In some ways,

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Speaker 2: that's a praise to him because that actually shows his

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Speaker 2: well rounded greatness. Why would he go into such ridiculous

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Speaker 2: basically blowing the fight to set this trap. From that point,

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Speaker 2: I say that was smart. But at the same time

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Speaker 2: they're both to blame. I'm not saying out of Sonya

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Speaker 2: clear from the beginning that Romero was like, gonna try

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Speaker 2: to do this in alternate way, right, we thought that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's ways to gamble. One ways would have

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Speaker 2: sweet music. And I think through two rounds, I thought

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Speaker 2: he was painting a masterpiece. It was the same equivalent

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Speaker 2: how you can do in other sports. Luke may not

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Speaker 2: be the most entertaining, but in basketball, you can hold

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Speaker 2: I think that's ultimately what he was trying to do.

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Speaker 2: He succeeded. He disarmed Autosnia again. Attasanya made the right

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Speaker 2: But I scored that.

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Speaker 3: Three rounds to two for Romero.

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Speaker 2: There were many journalists that scored it for Romero that

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that he has an argument to win,

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Speaker 2: but he took a back door chance at doing something

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Speaker 2: we've seen consistently from Cuban boxers on the highest level

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Speaker 1: Like he paint picked up the entire time.

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Speaker 2: He painted a masterpiece of slickness and defensive encounter punching,

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Speaker 2: but he did not do enough to sway the judges

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Speaker 2: in the end. He did enough to have an argument,

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Speaker 2: and MMA it's pretty much damage. So Romero came out

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Speaker 2: the finest wine and the high level IPAs, but ultimately

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Speaker 2: the rule set is, so you can't win doing that style.

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Speaker 2: I thought he won. I thought he gave himself a chance.

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Speaker 2: But he deserves the most level of criticism because this

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Speaker 2: was his last shot. This was what he said was

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Speaker 2: a gift from God to get this fight, coming off

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Speaker 2: of two defeats. This was his last chance from a

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Speaker 2: got to say this, he succeeded in disarming maybe the

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Speaker 2: greatest striker in UFC. And because Adasania ultimately took the

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Speaker 2: to survive in advance, he did take a big gamble, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying I scored it three to two rounds three

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Speaker 2: I thought Romero won round five when he pressed the action.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the argument that I make in Morning

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Speaker 1: Comba Dissected is one provided with visual evidence. So I

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Speaker 1: if you started to sign it Romero's last chance. And

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Speaker 1: well then this might have been his last chance. But

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Speaker 1: all agree, and he was close in the Paulo Costa fight.

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Speaker 1: He was close in both, but especially the second Whitaker fight.

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Speaker 1: He's still obviously very very competitive. If he keeps winning,

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Speaker 1: do I think he'll never get another title shot. I

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Speaker 2: So well, they would they would never go out of

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Speaker 2: deserve this style shot, but they went out of their way.

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Speaker 1: For But the idea that he's now barred from title

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Speaker 1: shots if he goes out there and keeps winning. Just

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Speaker 1: seems a little ridiculous to me. But certainly he did

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Speaker 1: himself no favors with the way he thought this one.

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Speaker 1: To me, the blame. I won't say it doesn't go

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Speaker 1: to Adasignia, because you could say, look, if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan and you show up for an entertainment product and

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Speaker 1: which is, yeah, there's gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a blood and guts kind of atmosphere. I don't want

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Speaker 1: that's even better, but something more than what we got.

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Speaker 1: I can understand that sentiment. I don't think policing fan

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Speaker 3: Everybody's Chuckladell chuckle Dell would never have had that happen.

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Speaker 3: But they showed. He showed his business problems out a

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Speaker 3: sign you.

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Speaker 2: They basically say, like, right, well, it's more important for

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Speaker 2: me to protect this belt in these millions, So I'm

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Speaker 1: that's very fair. He can do some of that. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Face defense was out out of control, out of control good.

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Speaker 1: No one had ever looked at Otta Signa's strikes and

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Speaker 2: And shout out to tadasanias takedown defense, which was very good.

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Speaker 1: And you can say, well, he's got good cardio, he

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Speaker 1: He had to get up into a he's a counter striker,

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Speaker 1: that's he can be. Yes, that is not predominant who

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Speaker 2: While you're right on that, and I do encourage people

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Speaker 2: to check out Morning Combat Dissected. Not certainly not enough

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Speaker 2: Luke I said, not everybody's chuck the dell.

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Speaker 1: You're making a different case. We're not asking what do

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Speaker 1: We're asking, who do you blame for the fight being lackluster?

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Speaker 1: Two different considerations, two different things you're making.

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Speaker 2: We're blamed to you. Well, but I do believe you

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Speaker 2: have to give out Asnya some blame, and not just

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Speaker 3: We'll keep doing the show back over here.

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Speaker 2: But he took a gamble, and I think he took

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Speaker 2: because he got disciplined in round one on that looping

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Speaker 3: I think he realized in that spot.

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Speaker 1: He lands that left multiple times the course of the fight.

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Speaker 2: Side of it. Astin he was blinking his eyes covering

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Speaker 2: it up. It was obviously that he was hurt. He

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Speaker 2: the fact that Romero didn't rush in and try to

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Speaker 1: I want to question. Here's a question. You can clearly

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Romero put him in a good spot.

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Speaker 2: Romero put him in a in a very difficult spot

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Speaker 2: where it's like, if you're going just to land anything

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Speaker 2: chance because I'm a coiled cobra who's not going to

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Speaker 2: why I'm saying that even though Romero deserves the blame

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Speaker 2: say right out and I love you boy, I see

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: But that was to have gone down that road three

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Speaker 2: just not smart. Knowing how the fights were scored, but

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Speaker 2: he disciplined him. Luke, he would so anyone that's coming

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Speaker 3: Had no game plan?

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Speaker 2: No, he had a very very detailed and smart game plan.

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Speaker 2: It was obviously lacking the offense that would give him

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Speaker 2: Israel at a Sonya does best, which is when you

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Speaker 2: rush him counter him. So he did not rush at all.

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Speaker 2: He showed incredible defense and he was ready to counter

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Speaker 1: This is not a new Romero, it's a better version

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Speaker 1: in terms of the things he's already been doing. As

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Speaker 1: He loves to fight this kind of way where he

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Speaker 2: Doing nothing out there. He had a game plan and

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Speaker 1: What good is your like against Luke Rockhold? You can

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Speaker 1: never got a chance to throw. Yeah, dude, cause Atasigna

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Speaker 1: He was always kind of being very careful ble what

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Speaker 3: He didn't do enough.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but you can't but anyone that's gonna

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Speaker 3: He didn't try.

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Speaker 2: What does he doing?

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Speaker 3: He's stupid. No, he had a game plan.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's just I don't think we did.

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Speaker 1: It was stupid that that would be unfair. Again, his

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Speaker 2: It was stupid. He was under standing the moment. That

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Speaker 1: Terms, to just play preva defense. You can do that

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Speaker 1: And he also has to reconcile. One last point is

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Speaker 2: Did put out of Soignya in a spot where he

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Speaker 2: There's no argument in there that that that's smart, that

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Speaker 2: Romero succeeded in what he was trying to do. Luke.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been the game plan I would have

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Speaker 3: Luke, he succeeded in that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just to be clear, he made this is at

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen rob Wilkinson Performance of the Night. He got

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Speaker 1: Performance of the Night, Derek Brunson Anderson Silva Fight of

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Speaker 1: We have let's see seven fights one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 1: Gastlum is the same reason against Silva and Romero. Crafty

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Speaker 1: And if they don't want to engage, and he's trying

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Speaker 1: that's not his problem. So I'm just gonna point out

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Speaker 1: some facts for you, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Kah, you backed up my point there. I mean, Romero

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Speaker 2: Now again to his discredit, he didn't do enough offensively.

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Speaker 3: You got to give him.

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Speaker 2: He did put his foot down on the gas pedal.

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Speaker 2: I thought he won round five on my scorecard. That

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Speaker 2: Succeeded at making this an ugly bad fight, and he

435
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Speaker 2: almost tricked out of Sonia into losing a decision.

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Speaker 3: You have to you have to agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I will definitely agree with the defensive part, his defensive

438
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Speaker 1: Romero's defensive work here was brilliant, truly brilliant. The problem

439
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Speaker 1: was that's all there was. Now there's a question about

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Speaker 1: where we go. In topic two with Israel Asni, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Romero. Will he ever get another title shot again?

442
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Speaker 1: Doesn't look likely, certainly not at anytime soon. I would

443
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Speaker 1: never write it off. But now the question becomes, Okay,

444
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Speaker 1: Adasignia keeps his belt. As we indicated, look at the

445
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Speaker 1: record of achievement he's had. It's been great. Brian Campbell, well,

446
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Speaker 1: go to you again on this one, which is to say,

447
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Speaker 1: to what extent, if any, and be honest here that's

448
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Speaker 1: what we do on the show. Does this win for

449
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Speaker 1: Adasanya hurt his stock?

450
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Speaker 2: It's only a short term stock herder. On the idea

451
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Speaker 2: that this guy and this is a narrative that I

452
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 2: played up on the way in that this fight gives

453
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Speaker 2: him the opportunity by picking such a badass opponent, going

454
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Speaker 2: out of his way to fight him when he doesn't

455
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Speaker 2: have to. Where if Adasagni was able to knock this

456
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Speaker 2: guy out, Luke, he could have got on the rocket

457
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Speaker 2: ship to superstart him. And I agree with that this

458
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Speaker 2: was his close up headlining his first pay per view

459
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Speaker 2: in America to be like, oh, that's the next big guy.

460
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Speaker 2: I should probably tune into Saturday and check it out.

461
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Speaker 2: You lose that in the temporary, you win that back

462
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Speaker 2: with another badass fight, and look, Paula Kass is going

463
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Speaker 2: to come for that ass and Adstai's probably going to

464
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Speaker 2: knock him out, to be honest with you, and it's

465
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Speaker 2: going to be probably be spectacular and be a great

466
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Speaker 2: fight and be hilatious, and then we'll go again, Oh,

467
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Speaker 2: that guy's so great. There's a lot of Anderson Silva

468
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Speaker 2: comparisons in there. I mean, yeah, we hated Anderson Silva

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Speaker 2: to a degree after like the Damian Maya fight. You know,

470
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Speaker 2: those type of fights where you're just you know, but

471
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Speaker 2: it's when a guy's coming for you, it's going to

472
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Speaker 2: bring out the best in him. In the end, we

473
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Speaker 2: will look back at this as a Israel Oatasnia's survive

474
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Speaker 2: in advanced smart move against a person in Romero who

475
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Speaker 2: gave him no other strategy but to do what he did.

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Speaker 1: So we mentioned Anderson Silva. Let's go back to that.

477
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Speaker 1: He goes to the UFC and he does what he

478
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Speaker 1: does against Chris Levin and that was just a marvelous performance,

479
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Speaker 1: and of course Joe Rogan was like, this is a

480
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Speaker 1: different kind of striker. Then he beats Rich Franklin, grabs

481
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Speaker 1: the middleweight title, gets knockout of the night at the time.

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Speaker 1: He fights Travis Luder. Luter takes him down to mount him,

483
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Speaker 1: but Anderson Zilva finds a way to come back and

484
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Speaker 1: of course win that one as well. Then he beats

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Speaker 1: Nate mark Hort. Then he fights Rich Franklin again. Then

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Speaker 1: he fights Dan Henderson, who came over from Pride legendary

487
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Speaker 1: run he went on there, and then of course he

488
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Speaker 1: knocked out James Irvin very quickly up aweight class. But

489
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Speaker 1: that was kind of expect counterprogramming Strike Force. That's right,

490
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what they were doing. Now egoes on the

491
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Speaker 1: very interesting part of his career. He fights Patrick Cota

492
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Speaker 1: and he wins by knee injury. But folks may don't

493
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Speaker 1: remember that Kotay was kind of seen as overmatched and

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Speaker 1: he lost via injury. But up until the injury, it

495
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Speaker 1: was not a good fight, okay. Then he beats Tallas

496
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Speaker 1: light Tis at UFC ninety seven, and that fight sucked

497
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Speaker 1: In fact, if you go back and look at it,

498
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Speaker 1: Dana White buried Anderson Silva for that. Now he rebounds

499
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Speaker 1: at UFC one oh one against Forrest Griffin. Oh my god,

500
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Speaker 1: all the time time, I mean, just brilliant video game. Again,

501
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Speaker 1: you couldn't believe it, and then goes and ruins it

502
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Speaker 1: again at UFC one twelve against Demi and Maya, where

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Speaker 1: we're talking all time low of his stock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the outrage was doubled because the Middle Eastern

505
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Speaker 2: fellas had just bought a.

506
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Speaker 3: Portion of the UFC, right, so you actually jo.

507
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Speaker 2: UFC going out there was to be like, look at

508
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Speaker 2: what you bought, here's what you got.

509
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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's a pile of crap.

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Speaker 1: And the bj pen upset happened in the on that

511
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Speaker 1: cart as well. And then you follow that up with

512
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Speaker 1: two more fights, the Chill sun And fight at UFC

513
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Speaker 1: one seventeen where he got beat up and had this incredible,

514
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Speaker 1: iconic comeback at the very last minute, and then lastly

515
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Speaker 1: UFC one twenty six he front kicks vtor belfour. This

516
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Speaker 1: fight was the biggest fight in Brazil.

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Speaker 2: I think Dana claimed late Saturday that it was the

518
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Speaker 2: Belfort fight that finally made a.

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Speaker 1: Mistake, right, So I'm told that that was the one

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Speaker 1: in Brazil that really launched him into superstore, and that

521
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Speaker 1: that was the one where folks were like because v

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Speaker 1: vietor belfore had been on like the Brazilian version of

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Speaker 1: Big Brother at that point, and he was married to

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Speaker 1: I think a playboy playmate, and so he had a

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Speaker 1: certain pop culture visibility. And then when Anderson, who I

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Speaker 1: don't think was expected to beat him by casual observers,

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Speaker 1: did really yeah, I think my understanding was that the

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Speaker 1: casual fans of Brazil kind of had a really high

529
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Speaker 1: opinion of Vitur and just didn't really understand.

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Speaker 2: Andy could have got the twenty thirteen Mohawk TRT version

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Speaker 2: of v Tour that could have been.

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Speaker 1: Have been interesting. Nevertheless, my point being is in going

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Speaker 1: through that he had this incredible rise and these amazing

534
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Speaker 1: performances and then the stock really dipped. All to point

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Speaker 1: out in the middle of his stock drop, it's skyrocketed

536
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Speaker 1: again against Fort Griffin and any of these two iconic performances.

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Speaker 1: What are we waiting on here with Adasannya And as

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Speaker 1: you pointed out, Costa not just a difficult challenge, I

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Speaker 1: think we can all agree or even a more stylistic

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Speaker 1: interesting matchup. But we have bad blood, we have heated rival,

541
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Speaker 1: we have expected animals repair everything. If he goes in there,

542
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Speaker 1: and if he loses, of course all bets are off.

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Speaker 1: But let's say he wins. His stock will be at

544
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Speaker 1: an all time high. If he wins an traditional way.

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Speaker 2: And if you're looking a big picture, then he can

546
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Speaker 2: win potentially stay busy ones against a cannoneer or a

547
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Speaker 2: till who will talk some trash, and then you're getting

548
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Speaker 2: ready for the John Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So did he take a hit on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Even if you believe he shouldn't have, or you believe

551
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Speaker 1: he did, he probably did to a degree. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any way you can argue otherwise. However, the

553
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Speaker 1: idea that it's lasting, the idea that it's especially damaging,

554
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Speaker 1: the idea that there's it's irreparable harm is just totally overplayed.

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Speaker 1: It was a fight that wasn't very entertaining. Provided his

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Speaker 1: next one is against the kind of rival that will

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Speaker 1: do just the right thing to move you up the ladder,

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Speaker 1: all of this goes away. Although I will say this

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Speaker 1: one more time, to the extent that Atasigna between Silva

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Speaker 1: and Romero. Here as a point out, Morna Coomba dissected,

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Speaker 1: those are the two fights where he had the Adasignia

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Speaker 1: did the highest portion of targeting of an opponent with

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Speaker 1: leg kicks. To me, if he has another opponent who's

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Speaker 1: very reserved offensively, you're going to get more of this.

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Speaker 1: It's not this is not going to be the last time.

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Speaker 1: But it looks like paul A Costa Brian from every indicator,

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Speaker 1: he just the opposite.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting uh front, row was on his lips.

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Speaker 1: Was there anything to that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything.

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Speaker 2: He jumped the barrier, but he didn't jump the barrier

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Speaker 2: because of Adasania.

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Speaker 3: So here's what happened. After the fight. Romero thought he won.

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Speaker 3: He had his arms up in the air. He got

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Speaker 3: in at Asnia's face.

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Speaker 2: Romero tried to leave the cage to attack Costa to

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Speaker 2: basically be like I won the championship, We're going to

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Speaker 2: rematch next.

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Speaker 3: Security had to hold him back.

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Speaker 2: That's when Costa jumped the barrier and security got him

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Speaker 2: and pushed him.

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Speaker 3: To the back.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't for Audasannia like Ottosani was trying to frame

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Speaker 2: it afterwards.

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Speaker 3: I was watching it in real time.

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Speaker 1: Also, when he made the throwing feces joke, I was like.

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't know if everybody caught when when Yoanna

588
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Speaker 2: was in the prep pit area, that's when Brian Oteka

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Speaker 2: got dragged up by security. Oh, I did not know

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Speaker 2: because he got the guests and uh. When I looked

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Speaker 2: to see who was there, I saw Logan Paul. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I hope he slapped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd pay for that on dizone. Yeah, get to

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Speaker 1: a dizone.

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Speaker 2: Tap halle Berry and then tap out a YouTuber that

596
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Speaker 2: it would be a great year. Hey, we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna not act like we have these fantastic mugs.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it in a minute. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: thing before Jay loses his mind back there. We are

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Speaker 1: talking about the main event a lot, but really there's

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Speaker 1: a big case to make that we should be mostly

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Speaker 1: talking about the co main event. Jang Way Lee defeats

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Speaker 1: Iowani and Jhck to retain her UFC strawweight title in

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Speaker 1: what can only be considered I think Brian Campbell the

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Speaker 1: best women's fight in MMA history. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: the best strawweight fight, although it might be that it

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Speaker 1: might be the best UFC women's title fight, or might

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Speaker 1: be that too. Frankly, I think it's on the short

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Speaker 1: list of best title fights independent of gender. It to

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Speaker 1: me is the best women's fight in my history. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if you feel the same. I let to go

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Speaker 1: first on this. When I was I was talking to

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Speaker 1: you know, famous internet personality Gribacca Hitman on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: he was compiling a list of all the best female fights.

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Speaker 2: And you say that because last night I watched what

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Speaker 2: I consider to be the best three male three female fights,

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Speaker 2: bang bang bang, just to make sure I wasn't recency

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Speaker 2: biased fair enough.

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Speaker 1: And he made a list on there, and you can

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Speaker 1: look at him. It's a lot of Mesha Tate, Julie Kenzie.

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Speaker 1: We should take. Holly Holm is another one. You can

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Speaker 1: go down and look at the listers. They're they're great

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Speaker 1: fights on there. Here's the thing I think folks need

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Speaker 1: to accept about this. I don't think that there's even

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Speaker 1: a close second to this one. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: Number one the strawweight division. We already knew it was good.

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Speaker 1: Show me any other champion in any other women's weight class,

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Speaker 1: and then any match them up with any top contender

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Speaker 1: and tell me you're gonna get that out of that.

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Speaker 1: It's not possible.

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Speaker 3: Called it a perfect storm because look it's rare enough.

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Speaker 1: Let me finish.

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Speaker 2: Well, you said I was gonna go first, and then

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Speaker 2: you first questions, but you cheeve me up. You do

635
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Speaker 2: this thing where you're like, I'm gonna let you go first.

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Speaker 2: After this eight minute breakdown, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't give you it amy to breakdown. I give it

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Speaker 1: eight second breakdown. Let me finish on this one. So

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Speaker 1: the point being is you can't get that out of

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Speaker 1: any other weight class. I just don't think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: But more to the point, I went back and I watched.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was considered I would put

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Speaker 1: on the list of best female five round fights. When

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Speaker 1: Zoela Frasto beat Megumi Fuji in Bellator No No, it

645
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: was a good five round fight.

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Speaker 2: Pull out the hardcore no No.

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Speaker 1: Magumi Fuji was the original hardcore greatest women's fighter of

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Speaker 1: all time. Cyborg kind of took that from her. You

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Speaker 1: can say Nuness took it from Cyborg, whatever your view

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Speaker 1: on that might be. But she was the original. She

651
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: was Josh Burnett trained and she was twenty I think,

652
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: and oh or twenty one and oh when she headed

653
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: into that fight, and so when the Froestill beat another,

654
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: the way she won was controversial. But here's the point.

655
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: You go back and you look at that, dude, the

656
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: technical level there of that fight is fine, it's admirable.

657
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: And then you look at that one, it's here's the

658
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: point about when women's MMA. A lot of people are like,

659
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: it's not the same as men's. Well, of course it

660
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: can't be right. You don't get as many participants trying globally,

661
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: it takes a long time to develop. Well, dude, women's

662
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: straweight is here. It is on par or better than

663
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Speaker 1: many men's divisions.

664
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Speaker 2: I was that guy years ago standing on the corner

665
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: with the sign saying women's strawight is the best division

666
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: of all time.

667
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: Here's my point on this one is when you look

668
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: at the list of those other fights, I don't think

669
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: they match up to the technical mastery. They don't match

670
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: up to the violent quot they don't match up to

671
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: the heart quotient, they don't match up to the drama quotient,

672
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: and they can't, Brian Gampbell because they all happened in

673
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: an era before the fight game on the women's side

674
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: got as advanced as this.

675
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: Even more than that.

676
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: And you're right, you made a great point skill level

677
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: mixed with title, mixed with important like it was a

678
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: perfect storm. But I think the reason why this storm

679
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: was so perfect is, oh my god, I can't even

680
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: look at that, Luke is tell me when you're going

681
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: to find this level of determination in two people at

682
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: the same time. And I say this with full respect,

683
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fighter, Luke. All right, I'm a freaking lover, Okay,

684
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: but some of our fighters, some of our all time

685
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: great fighters, could not have been in a fight like that.

686
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: There's been some champions who had multiple title defenses and

687
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: were great and we're dominant. That aren't that type of

688
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: dude on the inside that will fight life or death, Luke.

689
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: I was six feet away from the cage during this.

690
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: This was life or death. It was two people willing

691
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: to base there, like you said, two effing savages. That's

692
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: where you tweeted out. It was the most apt, perfect tweet.

693
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: It was Waylejong told me the day before the fight,

694
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: this is life or death for me. And you hear

695
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: that a lot and you're like, yeah, yeah, you know,

696
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: you really want to win it badly. No, these two

697
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: came together, former champion trying to regain glory after turning

698
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: around her personal life and all that, and current champion

699
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: who might be a global superstar down the road, who

700
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: has the biggest country on her back and could be something,

701
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: and they collided and neither were willing to take a

702
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: step back. The pace was insanity, the five round pace

703
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. The toughness, the willingness to basically luke alter

704
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: their life in there. I mean, I know that you

705
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: can make funny Star Trek memes for what you wantas

706
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: face became, but if you were sitting cage side, you

707
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: were worried for her long term help. I'm still actually

708
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: upset that they allowed her to do the cage interview,

709
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: then take pictures with fans outside and basically do this

710
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: big celebration, get her to a damn hospital that was

711
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: almost all time level damage and by the way, way

712
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: Lejean's face was falling apart from the second round, on

713
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: the fact that Yo Wanna took her succeeded in taking

714
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: her into deep waters and yet Wailey Zong found out

715
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: that she actually has it on the inside, and then

716
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: you see the championship justment's made when you want to

717
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: go south Paul in round four and completely turns the

718
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: fight in the other direction. It is without question, the

719
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: greatest female fight of all timple.

720
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Of the other ones you said you had watched that

721
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: you thought might be close contenders.

722
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: The the Home Tate Championship out because of this emotion

723
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: and swings momentum. The non title Claudia goodalj Jessica andros

724
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 2: fight Fro a couple of years ago is savage, very

725
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: good blood great. I think Yowanna Rose two in Brooklyn

726
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: at two twenty three because it was for a title.

727
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: Five rounds of technical brilliance that got heated. It was

728
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: back and forth. And then the other one is one

729
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people forget from the tough season. Rocky

730
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: Pennington against Jessamine Duke was three rounds of hell, and

731
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: this is better than all of them. I think the

732
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: only debate here, Luke is how high do you put

733
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: it up in the ideal of greatest fight of all.

734
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Time, irrespective of Gendy, irrespective of Jenner Hi.

735
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's top five one hundred percent probably,

736
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 2: and I think it even is creeping into top three.

737
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: And now, look, you have to understand people were telling

738
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: me that watching it at home, it wasn't as brutal

739
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: as I was trying to make it out. I don't

740
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: know if you've experienced that, that that dicotomy time, that's true.

741
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: It was insanely brutal in person. And there's some things

742
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: when you're sitting that close that you can see that

743
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: TV can't, the absorption of blows, the damage.

744
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: All that, and the and the sound, the auditory sound.

745
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely this is you know. I got invested into their stories.

746
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: I had Dana on Friday an interview telling me like,

747
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: you got to understand, this is going to be the

748
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: fight of the night, This might be an all time fight.

749
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: I got so bought in on this. I was as

750
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: giddy as Robert Downey Junior on the I'd love to

751
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: see what was in his bloodstream. So when you're that invested,

752
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: you could you could be subject to getting too high

753
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: afterwards and being caught in the moment. I'll live in

754
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: this moment forever. This is a top three fight of

755
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: all time. Tell me, tell me a fight that's better

756
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: than this, Luke tell.

757
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Me Lawler and McDonald two.

758
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: I'll accept that. I think it's better than John Jones

759
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: and gustuson one. I think it's competitive with because that's

760
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: full I have to go back and rewind going into

761
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. They not necessaurday despite is one

762
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: of those rare ones where it's never as good on rewatch.

763
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: It was one of those because in the moment we

764
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: didn't think it was going to be. It was so shocking.

765
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: There are different fights that you can put on any

766
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: point and you are right back there.

767
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: Mark.

768
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't think this is to be a fight that

769
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: will rewatch a lot, though, because of the crutality, Like

770
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: you don't rewatch Schindler's List, right, you know you're not

771
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna watch that every sixth.

772
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: We compare this to the ritual murder of Jews, but

773
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: they were the last. Here's one thing I will say.

774
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: There's a there's a term that it comes from dogfighting,

775
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but it gets applied, you know. For example, Jorge Maswital

776
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: has used it for himself. Is called game bread. It's

777
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: a slightly different term called gameness, and gameness is defined

778
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: as pursuit of the fight despite the physical consequences. Boy,

779
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: you want to talk about two ladies, two fighters who

780
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: had unbelievable gameness, because was it the fourth or fifth

781
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: round where already the fa I mean literally, let's be

782
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: honest about it. You want to got disfigured in this fight.

783
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, I think it was

784
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round, she caught a left hook,

785
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: but she didn't catch it clean. It actually was a

786
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: little bit out and it shattered her no and took

787
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: it to the side, so she had a crooked nose,

788
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: the swelling forehead, and they were still throwing down like animals.

789
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: The pace was so high they combined for an attempted

790
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: almost eight hundred strikes between them overall, I've never seen

791
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: numbers like that.

792
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: The lank kicks. The lank kicks that both of their

793
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: legs were just.

794
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: Bright red the entire Joe sna makes a point about

795
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the brutality of five round fights and whether we should

796
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: allow them. The point is I think they sort of

797
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: the toothpastes out of two. There's no way to go back.

798
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: We need them to decide these big contests. But dude,

799
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: you look at their pay and it was like what

800
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: one hundred two hundred thousand for each of them. I

801
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: mean it should be.

802
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: It should That's one of those where you throw a

803
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: couple million down the stode.

804
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I really and truly hope that there's some

805
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: kind of way to get them more money, and maybe

806
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: there will be, because that is criminal that they put

807
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: out that kind of effort for that little amount of pay.

808
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Former presidential Canada Andrew Yang was even tweeting about that.

809
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Yo Wanna has fourteen UFC fights, ten are championship bouts.

810
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Seven of them have gone the distance, and of those seven,

811
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: she took heavy damage in winning and a lot of those.

812
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Remember the Covialkevitch fight. You remember even the Andrage fight,

813
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: which was one sided. She took some bombs late. Here's

814
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: the deal, Luke. I think she should retire, And people

815
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: think I'm crazy for that because she just fought so great.

816
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: She almost beat the New Chance, you know, like all

817
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: that stuff.

818
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: I thought she bought. By the way I thought she

819
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: won that fight.

820
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was three to two young, but it

821
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: was so it was ridiculous. I don't think she can

822
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: ever win a championship again. I think that this is

823
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: the toughest division by far the fact that she doesn't

824
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: have elite level power. She's been able to get around

825
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: that for a long time by outgassing you. And now

826
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: you saw in a fight and look it just maybe

827
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: where Wayley Shong ends up being so special that this

828
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: was just a great moment. But her her superpower, if

829
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: you go watch the Godellha rematch, is I'll take all

830
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: this punishment, but I will outlast you. When that becomes

831
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: your calling card and you've taken five round damage for

832
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: a long time, I think it's you just cut.

833
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: Clean and you go. And I don't know people saying

834
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: that's crazy.

835
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: She could beat all these people, but what for unless

836
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: it's for the money.

837
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Hey, you've got a real set of winners here today.

838
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Huh okay, can we turn your phones on it?

839
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: How do you guys fix the AC? I am just

840
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: dripping sweat right here.

841
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: You watch the last point about that. No, but I

842
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: do think this retired or not retired. I do think

843
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: the sun has set on her as a legitimate title contender,

844
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: which is to say she'll be good people. She always

845
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: had to your point, like Kadelia was always physically stronger

846
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: than her. Kadelia I had even you know, I would

847
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: say more well rounded in the sense she could strike

848
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: a little bit but also wrestle a lot. But now

849
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: what you're seeing is I do think she was, you want,

850
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead from a technical mastery, ahead of

851
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Jangway Lee, but not by much. And then the physical

852
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: differences for Jang now the gap has really caught up

853
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: and even surpassed her a little.

854
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Because there was a point at the end of the

855
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: first round where Yanna was taking heavy damage with those

856
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: big right hands, and I'm sure everyone at home was saying.

857
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: What I was saying was like, if she keeps brawling

858
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: with this heavier punch or she's going to be in trouble.

859
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: And the fact that she was able to turn that

860
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: into a full on brawl and survive, and Luke, that's

861
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: against the very like, you're only going to go downhill

862
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: from here, and for what again, I don't know our

863
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: financial situation. I'm just saying, here's somebody who, when she

864
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: was on top, was talking about getting out.

865
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: I want to start a family. This one fifteen cut

866
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: is so bad for my body.

867
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: I like that she's came in in such incredible shapes

868
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: that she never made weight this easily.

869
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: But I think it's the same spot where Paul Felder

870
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: was it.

871
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: Now he didn't have the decorated background as her, but

872
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: when he almost half retired before that last fight. The

873
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: point was that I've gotten as far as I can go,

874
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: and it's probably only downhill.

875
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: He's also got another gig set up. We have to

876
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: move along very quickly. Robert Helenius am I saying his name?

877
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Russ Yeah, shocked of course. The Barclays Center and the

878
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: Polish faithful. By the way, the Polish really show up

879
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: at Prudentials.

880
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could just get more Polish boxing

881
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: superstars that the crowd's.

882
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: Unbelievable beating Adam Kovnasky. How you say fourth round? Tiko

883
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: stoppageing a title eliminator? About where are we going?

884
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: You on the solo Chemera?

885
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: My ear just constantly, is this show alive right now?

886
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: What's going on?

887
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: We used to have a menu on the.

888
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Screen because you are very, very sensitive about your airtime.

889
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Let's go back to you on this one. How big

890
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: of an upset is this, by the way, and what

891
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: does it do to the landscape of either pbcwight or

892
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: heavyweight division in ji.

893
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: You know, long term it doesn't do that much. It's shocking.

894
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: The odds were very rid.

895
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: You tweeted out the odds.

896
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: What were they?

897
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: He was a minus three thousand favorite.

898
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: And here's the reason why. Look, it's not that Helenius

899
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: couldn't do this. It wasn't bred to do this. He

900
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 2: was a bright heavyweight prospect five six seven eight years ago,

901
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: six 't seven? Can put no what?

902
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Get on your game, Brian Camp, Me me get on

903
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: my game. Yeah I know, well, Jays never on this game,

904
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: but you can be on yours. Jay.

905
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: This one's all right. His career fell off. He started

906
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: gett knocked outy people. He shouldn't get knocked out. He

907
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: never became what was So this isn't a massive upset

908
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: from the idea of like, oh, that guy could never

909
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: beat that guy.

910
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: It certainly was.

911
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: When Adam Kovanoski is more or less ready for a

912
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: title shot, but he can't get in that picture because

913
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: everyone's locked up right now.

914
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: When he loses here, it's easy to say, oh, he

915
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: was never that good. He never beat a top ten heavyweight.

916
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: No he didn't. But he had enough of the good lord, Jay,

917
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: he had enough of those wins packed together where you're

918
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: like this guy could be for real. Unfortunately, you saw

919
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: all of the reasons why he's somewhat flawed come to

920
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: the surface. It takes way too much punishment, too willingly

921
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: gets involved in brawls. Yes, he's walking him down Mick

922
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Cans and he can fight on the inside. But we

923
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: saw his brawl with Chris Ariel last year, which was

924
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: really supposed to be a Fox nationally televised set up

925
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: about to say this is a future Deontay Wilder opponent,

926
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: and while they produced a quasi Fight of the Year contender,

927
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: he took way, way, way too much beating in that fight.

928
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Ariela didn't really have the finishing power to get him

929
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: out of there. Kovnotski, although he can punch a little bit,

930
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: doesn't really have big time finishing power, So it became

931
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: this brutal brawl. This was sort of the wrong guy

932
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: to kind of have your hands down and be a

933
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: little bit reckless, and he got caught in the end.

934
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean much in the long term.

935
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: He can rebound with a win, but I think this

936
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: showed you that if he ever did get into that

937
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: big Wilder fight, he's got some things to work on,

938
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: specifically defense conditioning.

939
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: If he wants to get the very best of himself.

940
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Figure upset, well, a bigger upset from an odd standpoint

941
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: for like Fox main events would be this one. Would

942
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: you put the Jay Rock upset in terms of consequential upsets?

943
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Jay Rock was certainly capable, you know

944
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. This is all because there's two upsets.

945
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: Jay Rock beating herd was an upset and then losing.

946
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: This one's bigger all the way around.

947
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, I'm sorry, Helenius got knocked out by

948
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 2: Gerald Washington a couple of fights ago, and that's that's

949
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: not a great sign.

950
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: But he looked a little stiff. But then Kovnatchki was

951
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: just walking into him and he just pumped it right

952
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: down the center. He kept eating.

953
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: You know, you wonder now, because of Kunoski's style, if

954
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: some of the brawls have added up on him, or

955
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: if it was just a bad night at the office.

956
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: But look, I think he can get into better shape,

957
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: and I think he's got to work on some things.

958
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: But the fans came out and you did see a

959
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: wild upset there. So if anybody put money on Hillnius,

960
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: they're paid off big. Certainly was shocking all right, let's

961
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: jump to the last one here was short on time.

962
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: We are coming off of UFC two forty eight, but

963
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: we are headed into the weekend for UFC Brasilia. By

964
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: the way, sneaky, sneaky, sneaky, good card, tons of good

965
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: fights on there. By the way, the return of Johnny Walker.

966
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: No one's talking about that.

967
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Your col main event, Gilbert Burns taking on Demi and Maya,

968
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. But your main event,

969
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: of course, is really the Crown Jewel. Charles Olivera faces

970
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: off against Kevin Lee, a pair of elite lightweights who

971
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: have had their struggles. Brian Campbell would look to be

972
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: on the best run of form for each of them.

973
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: So again we'll go to you first, Brian Campbell, what

974
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: would you say is on the line for each of them?

975
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: It's a little bit similar to this. Is how deep

976
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: and how incredible this DIVI? Guys, I can hear all

977
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: your conversation are can we really get the show on

978
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: track here? I'm not even full run anymore. I'm not

979
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: trying to be a Luke clone here, but can you

980
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: get out of my ear please? This division is so

981
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: deep that what's on track is to get to that

982
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: next level, you get into that top five, and you

983
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: get into basically the on deck circle for the guys

984
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: who are on deck for the title.

985
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: That's because this division is so killer.

986
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: You have to love this fight because Altho Verz, I'm

987
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: like sneaky six fight win streak and Kevin Lee, and

988
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: I'll say it set up before and I'll say it

989
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: once more. Luke, It's gonna be a world champion one day.

990
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: He's gonna wear a UFC title one day. He is

991
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: that good. He hasn't fully put it together yet. He's

992
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: own flashes. He sent Gregor Gillespie to hell in an

993
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: all time great knockout.

994
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: He's getting it together.

995
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: If he beats Charles, he gets right into Dan Hooker

996
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: territory where you are the next to have, next, to

997
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: have next. And that's kind of a shame because of

998
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: how deep and crazy this division is. But it just

999
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: goes to speak that we are at a historical point

1000
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: in this division and this is going to be a

1001
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: hot frickin' fire fight. And as much as I love

1002
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee, this is a potential trap flight.

1003
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no fight is always the best fight for lifting

1004
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: you up. No fight in the UFC is incredibly ruinous.

1005
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: Some carry more stakes than others. But for this one,

1006
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: two things, I would say, You've got a guy in

1007
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: Lee outside the top five. Top five is a little

1008
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: crowded right now, but it puts them on that bubble

1009
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: spot where he could maybe enter the top five and

1010
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: get closer to the championship title, which, by the way,

1011
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: i'd share you of you. I do think he's good

1012
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: enough and talented enough that one day he's going to

1013
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: wear a belt. In the case of Charles Lavera, he's

1014
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: actually sitting outside the top ten, so this would be

1015
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: a good movee for him into that top ten space.

1016
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: But more than that, you indicated something, which is both

1017
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: of these guys are been on great runs. Now. Obviously

1018
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee just had that one fight against Gregor Gillespie,

1019
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: but it was such a risky fight to take and

1020
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: he did so well. And with Faraza Hobby, you just

1021
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: feel like he's got all this momentum. They put him

1022
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: in a main event for that very reason, and I

1023
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: love it because Charles Lavera is sitting a little bit

1024
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: further back and has had many a little bit more

1025
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: fuck ups, and I don't think he has shown as

1026
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: much brilliance.

1027
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: No one would have guessed he is on a six

1028
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: fight win streak dred percent.

1029
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: In the case of Kevin Lee, I love that they said,

1030
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you a guy who he's got his ups,

1031
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: he's got his downs, but if you're not minding your

1032
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: p's and ques, he will tear you to pieces. We're

1033
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: gonna send you to his home country where they're gonna

1034
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: shout oh vai moohare at you constantly, and you still

1035
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: have some work to do to build yourself up here.

1036
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: It is such a great test for both guys to

1037
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: show not just not the upper bound limit of their abilities,

1038
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: but where the floor is. Let's see, are you still

1039
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: that error prone guy who can't get it together? Are

1040
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: you the person who hasn't developed enough skills to ward

1041
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: off certain kinds of threats. This, to me is a

1042
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: great great test for both to show us. I have

1043
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: tightened up deficiencies that have that have stopped me in

1044
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: the past, and now because I don't have them as much,

1045
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: I can propel even further into the future. That's what

1046
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I love.

1047
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee wins this tough fight on the It's like congratulations,

1048
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: Now you have to fight the hooker Porio.

1049
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I mean he's out of the frying

1050
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: pan into the fire, no doubt about it. But but

1051
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: to me, if he goes in there and he doesn't

1052
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: get caught up in submissions and his jab looks better

1053
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: and he just blows him away, he say, wow, dude,

1054
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Lee can really be that guy. We we always

1055
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: knew that, so it'll be kind of it. Or Charles

1056
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: Lavera is just unstoppable at this point. Either way, Okay,

1057
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: time now for questions. I believe Brian Campbell. This is

1058
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: where we uh, we always put a Instagram post up.

1059
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: It's time for dams from donks, so you can get

1060
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: the fucking animation there to go. H Okay, it'd be

1061
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: nice if I could hear the noise in my ear

1062
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: so I could time it better. But you know we're

1063
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: asking things from Jay. So all right, let's go first.

1064
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Just so there's clarity on this, we put up a

1065
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Instagram post. When I say we, people are always like, hey,

1066
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: can you put the podcast up? I'm like, you know,

1067
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't like, we don't do that, right, Like the

1068
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: donks here, that's their job. We just host the show.

1069
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: In any event, so someone posts an Instagram post and

1070
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: then on Sundays and you can fill it up.

1071
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: Good shout out the donks right.

1072
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: There there, that's all of them. Okay, this comes to

1073
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: us from Martin nineteen oh seven. Brian Campbell, what do

1074
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: you guys think of Dana praising Izzy for his tactics?

1075
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: But it's a good question. Actually bashing Tyron Woodley for

1076
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: the same thing after the Wonder Boy.

1077
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: Fight, that's a little bit interesting.

1078
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: That's actually a great question.

1079
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: That is a great question.

1080
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: And shout out to the people my co host the CBS,

1081
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: Brandon Wise as well, who was like, this is basically

1082
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: Woodley Thompson two. This fight on Saturday Night, and there

1083
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: were a lot of comparisons in that. I always felt

1084
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: like Dana had it out for Tyron Woodley. I always

1085
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: felt like he didn't realize the potential there. They didn't

1086
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: get along on a business level. It seems to make

1087
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. Dana was all or nothing on

1088
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: the idea that this rose Romero's fault. And I know

1089
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: we already had that debate and you can sort of

1090
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: lean different ways, but it's not new for Dana to

1091
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: sort of have his company.

1092
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Matt No, It's like Dana's behavior is inconsistent. You're like, what,

1093
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: nuh uh. Yeah. I would just say he did tyron

1094
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Wo the dirty during his title right and after the

1095
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: Maya fight too, where Maya was constantly spamming him with

1096
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: takedown attempts, and he looked brilliant doing that. Again, he

1097
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: didn't put a lot of offense behind that. Some of

1098
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: course he dropped him, but not enough of the course

1099
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: of five rounds. I think to satisfy the fans. Look,

1100
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: he and Dana have never seen eye to eye. Number one,

1101
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: number two again in defense of Israel out of Signa.

1102
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: I think the case is pretty strong that he did

1103
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot more to move that fight forward. Wasn't successful

1104
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: in it, but he tried three. There's all the larger

1105
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: body of work where he got six fights or eight fights,

1106
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: and six of them you got an award for how

1107
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: great it was. I just think he's earned himself a

1108
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: little bit more. Dana likes better, in part because maybe

1109
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: just Danias selects him better, but also because from America,

1110
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: to deserve.

1111
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: The catnip to Dana are two things. If you knock

1112
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: people out, Dana's gonna love you in too. If you're

1113
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: willing to fight anybody at any time, which can be

1114
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: seen as a company guy, I think, or it can

1115
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: just be seen as an absolute badass thing. That's why

1116
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: chaill Son and are like chuckle'dellar like all timers.

1117
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: In Dana's mind turn, Willie has a bit of a

1118
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: malcontent vibe, whereas Atta signa Otta Sign is actually like

1119
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a company guy, but doesn't have the

1120
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: rep of his being like an aw shucks company guy

1121
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: because he just gets out of into great interviews and

1122
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: just stays active. And again, the other part about this

1123
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: fight was he didn't have to take it. He kind

1124
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: of elected to. Now in the end we're probably like, well,

1125
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: maybe he should have skipped it, But just think about

1126
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Dana's mind. Dana's like, this guy is wanting to take

1127
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: on a challenge he didn't have to. I think that

1128
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of bought him a little bit of leeway in

1129
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: the end.

1130
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: Do you think that'll change? And when I say that'll change,

1131
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: even though we're pretty we're pretty far into UFC being

1132
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: a legitimate sport now right where we're pretty we're past

1133
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: twenty five years, we're deep into it. Dana's still through

1134
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: the Contender series, through the idea of fight bonus. This

1135
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: is still pushing the idea that knockouts knockouts knockouts, right, Like,

1136
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: everybody's got to be a badass fighter. Like, we're not

1137
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: going to praise somebody if they're a point fighter, right.

1138
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: Do you think that'll change when he goes or or

1139
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: some the more mainstream this gets, I mean, I can't

1140
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: get much more mainstream than it is.

1141
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know. I have to

1142
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: think about the good question. I don't know. All right,

1143
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: at you look tired, Luke, you look yeah, I'm very tired.

1144
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: At some Meek zero eight nine.

1145
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: That's Sammy Q.

1146
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Sammy Q maybe yeah, tough watching. You'll want to

1147
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: do the interview after the brutal fight. Shouldn't she be

1148
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: rushed to the back to the dock or hospital to

1149
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: check on them asap instead of holding them off and

1150
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: making them do an interview.

1151
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: At press row.

1152
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: Some brethren, you know, the Mark Ray Mundy's, the shawanaf

1153
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: Shottis of the world. They were with me, like, can

1154
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: we get her into an ambulance right now? Can we

1155
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: stop this? And I think some people thought I was overboard,

1156
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: but look, I've been around boxing a long time.

1157
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: I was there at the Malgamed abdus salamof fight.

1158
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you were there, oh yeah, and

1159
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: when when you see somebody took hoilacious damage to the like,

1160
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: there's no need for interviews, there's no need for any

1161
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Get the heck out of there. I

1162
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: think that this look like I'm just saying, I'm surprised

1163
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: they let you want to fight in the fifth round.

1164
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's like a natural knee

1165
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: jerk thing, because they're females that were all automatically like

1166
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more protective over the amount of damage was.

1167
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: But that was like disfiguring back. That wasn't Mark Hamenick

1168
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: or Hassen Rockman with the softball. That was complete disfigurement.

1169
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm very shocked that she was allowed to finish the fight,

1170
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: and I'm triple shocked that it wasn't like, let's have

1171
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 2: the lights on on the ambulance waiting with the engine running,

1172
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: and let's get her.

1173
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Out of here. I was with Dan Hardy at UFC

1174
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: two forty four of the BMF title and of course

1175
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: it all got stopped somewhat controversially there, and I remember

1176
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: him looking at me and saying, if that was Vegas,

1177
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: I would have kept going, Wep, it wasn't Vegas. I

1178
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't a cut, but in terms of having

1179
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: a questionable kind of injury, and they just let it rock. Yeah,

1180
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: they let it rock for better for.

1181
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: Words, and then just to double down here during the

1182
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: interview with Joe Rogan, I could hear parts of it, well,

1183
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, from in the arena.

1184
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: She was talking about how bad her had hurt and

1185
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: when it.

1186
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: Affected her in the fight, and how every punch made

1187
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 2: her even to get her the hell out of there.

1188
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: So this comes to here we go exactly some great

1189
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: minds thinking like at Tito underscore eight eight one five

1190
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: one eight, I remember sending these people with these fucking numbers.

1191
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: If if the comaane was in New York, would they

1192
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: have stopped it? Based on J. J. Tem Holman, I

1193
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: think it was wrong case they would have done that.

1194
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: And you can argue, like you were.

1195
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: At that fight, when you were at that fight, the uh,

1196
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: what's Abdul's what's the last name again, Abdul Salamov? Was

1197
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: there a point in the fight where you you had

1198
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: a weird feeling.

1199
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: There was a point it was a ten round fight

1200
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: against Mike Perez, two unbeaten guys. There was a big

1201
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: you know, it was a big fight for like who

1202
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: might be a future title contender comin event to a

1203
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: triple G fight on HBO.

1204
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: There was a point in the middle of the ninth

1205
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: round where we're.

1206
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: All looking at each other, going abjuslamaf just does not

1207
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: look good, like he's taking a beating, like maybe his corner.

1208
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, like the fight was close, but not really

1209
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: if you knew Mike Prez was in control, and there

1210
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: were points where, especially during the tenth round, where you're like,

1211
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: maybe you should stop this now, we never would have

1212
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: guessed what happened next. And a lot of that was

1213
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: with how how poorly the medical protocol was. And look,

1214
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: why is New York such a tough commission because they're

1215
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: paying ridiculous millions in these type of settlements after the fact,

1216
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they had to tighten down.

1217
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: But I've seen enough in boxing to know that I

1218
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: was legitimately scared for both women at the end of

1219
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: that fight. But you know what, Luke, I don't know

1220
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: if that makes me soft. Do you remember the first

1221
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Giant Bigfoot Silva uh Mark Mark Hut fight, which was

1222
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: a fricking classic blood bath. There was a point in

1223
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: that fourth round where I'm like.

1224
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Like, dude, I'm not joking. I literally watched that fight

1225
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: through my fingers. I was just like I had to,

1226
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: like I had to.

1227
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: I had many moments from I'm just like throw those

1228
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: damn times, like you know, it's like Rocky four all

1229
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 2: over again.

1230
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I was like big Fitzilva was never the same after that.

1231
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 2: People, I'll give it. Those people around me ringside media

1232
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: were like, keep going, let's see fifth round. I was, uh,

1233
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: maybe that means I'm a humanitarian. Luke Sure at Scott fourteen.

1234
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Why, what are your predictions for the highly anticipated British

1235
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: heavyweight boxing vout between Daniel Dubois and Joe Joyce.

1236
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: This is why I love British boxing because they match

1237
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: their best early. These guys are both unbeaten right at

1238
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: the prospect could be contenders, could be pretenders level, and

1239
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: they're just gonna bang and like that's what you want,

1240
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That's the UFC style matchmaking.

1241
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: That's John Jones and Ryan Bader when they came to

1242
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: I think, so, don't quote me on that. I think so. Yeah,

1243
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: it's it's a Matt Troom's got one of the fighters.

1244
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: It's interesting they're both as flawed as they are exciting.

1245
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Joe Joyce is a much older post prospect at this point,

1246
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: I think dubas the best fighter.

1247
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be one of those proven grounds where're

1248
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: going to.

1249
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: See what happens. Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.

1250
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: We keep talking about you. British boxing right now is

1251
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: so fucking hot.

1252
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: And this is where you gotta give Eddie hearn credit.

1253
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Whether you think Eddie hearn Is has the same sins

1254
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: inside of him as all the other famous boxing promoters,

1255
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: and he does. He gives like they feel the undercards,

1256
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: you know, like there's he gives you.

1257
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: He puts people on top, is what I'm saying.

1258
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: All right, this one's for you big time here. Brian

1259
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Campbell Brown from at Aaron bug Eha Bogeisia. I don't know.

1260
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Since BC loves his nineties references, what are your favorite

1261
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: moments from the nineties and what do you miss about

1262
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: that time? Hashtag no tip to tip.

1263
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: Woh one of my favorite nineties moments?

1264
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it means personally or from I don't know.

1265
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: I loved my freshman year in college when I was

1266
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: a dirtbag commuter student and I drove a ten eighty

1267
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: five Chevy Celebrity.

1268
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: The head cigarette stains all over and.

1269
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: The tape player didn't work, so I had to listen

1270
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: to Radio one oh four in Hartford, which is all alternative,

1271
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: and I would cut class and just drive around and

1272
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: be lonely. That was That was a great year, Luke.

1273
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: That was a that was a you know what I

1274
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: used to call that car, no.

1275
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Wonder you're so hard up for airtime. You you got

1276
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: a little uh daddy needs attention by to you.

1277
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: I called it the stallion because you could take the

1278
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: keys out of it while you're driving and just put

1279
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: the keys down next to you, and it would stall

1280
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: in really horrible moments when you're at like a crazy intersection.

1281
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: You have just enough time to cut pie somebody, so

1282
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: as you're cutting, the car would just stall and you'd

1283
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: have to in motion get the keys back.

1284
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: I'll put it back, and I mean it's just it was.

1285
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've driven some beaders, so I drove one where

1286
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: if you would if you were driving on the highway,

1287
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: at sixty was fine, but if you slowed down to

1288
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: fifteen or less, the engine would just cut off, so

1289
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: you had to put it in park restart.

1290
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: It's always the worst young drivers who get the worst.

1291
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: Where I took it because I could.

1292
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: You know what I would do? I would actually, when

1293
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I got to fifteen, I'd throw it in neutral and

1294
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: then I would break, but I would then I would

1295
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: drive with two feet, so I would I would be

1296
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: in neutral and I would hit the brake, but I

1297
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: would rev the engine with the other foot and then

1298
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: slowly pump it. I would wait till the car front

1299
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: of me went a little while, chuck it back and drive,

1300
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: and then I would you know, I'd kickstart right back in.

1301
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: But it was can I give an old guy answer?

1302
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: Because the spirit of the question was what do you

1303
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: miss about the nineties the most? I mean I certainly missed,

1304
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, the grunge culture and the music and all that,

1305
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: and the movies and the OJ trial, which we have

1306
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: to understand was like our life for a year.

1307
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: It was a big deal. I remember where were you

1308
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: when the vertical was announced?

1309
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: I was in senior year high school in last period

1310
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: accounting class.

1311
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was in tenth grade. I was between classes, yes,

1312
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: and someone goes dude, Ojay's innocent.

1313
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,479
Speaker 2: Dude, and we all chaired the shit out of oj

1314
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: not to steal the Chris Rock joke of what do

1315
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: we win? You know, we don't really think, but we

1316
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 2: shared it because we're like, look at this outlaw.

1317
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: He scammed the sys. No, he's he murdered people.

1318
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: He's a murder.

1319
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: By the way you're seeing his tweets about the coronavirus.

1320
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: It's interesting.

1321
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: But you know what I missed the most is going

1322
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: to be an old guy. I'm forty one years old,

1323
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 2: no cell phones, so there were there were so many

1324
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: moments that you lived, you freaking lived it with your friends.

1325
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I have friends.

1326
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I dated a girl who when I was seventeen, she

1327
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: had a cell phone. She was rich.

1328
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some people parents gave him, like the brick

1329
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: cell phone. I got a cell phone I think in

1330
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: ninety eight sophomore college. But my point was when you

1331
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: hung out with people, you hung out with them. I

1332
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: feel like I had one hundred more friends back then

1333
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: than I do now because you had really had to

1334
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: work on the They really are a set person huh No,

1335
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm it's called being an adult.

1336
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: Jason, Okay, get out of my ear.

1337
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Look how.

1338
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Many special people change, right? How many lives are living strange? Right? Luke,

1339
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: where were you while we were getting high?

1340
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: I'll say this for the differences from the nineties, for

1341
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: me is the different like power centers. And here's what

1342
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean. When we were in the nineties, dude, if

1343
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: you were like on morning radio, you were a god. Yes,

1344
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: And so I remember I was a kid and I

1345
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: was in when I was in Marietta, the big radio

1346
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: station in Atlanta was the time, was ninety nine X. Dude.

1347
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: We listened in the morning and X that was like

1348
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: that was I mean, that was you know, you couldn't

1349
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: imagine a cooler job and a bigger life. And now

1350
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: morning radio is just not what it wants.

1351
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: And then you would meet those DJs at like a concert.

1352
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: They'd be like, go to the concert, you can beat

1353
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, you know Johnny, cool guy. And they'd always

1354
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 2: be like the biggest overweight and yeah, like I remember,

1355
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: and you're like, I would give anything to be that guy.

1356
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in high school, the morning

1357
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: show was Leslie Barnes and Jimmy and it was three

1358
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: people in ninety nine xt in Atlanta and they were

1359
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: not big fatties. But uh but back then that was

1360
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: a real thing. That was a real thing you could do.

1361
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: And you can make millions in radio like that.

1362
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: Here's another old thing.

1363
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: Now you can't people see like Colin Coward and Jim Rome.

1364
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Imagine dozens of those. That's how radio used to be.

1365
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: I missed the NBA and NBC.

1366
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: I missed the John Test theme song, and I really

1367
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: missed the most is ninety style basketball, Like I don't

1368
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: mean to be that old guy and now watching but

1369
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: the NBA now it is all run the lane, pitch

1370
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: it out because you can't hand check.

1371
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: They took Derek Harper out of the game.

1372
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what nineties basketball was, post up, pick

1373
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 2: and roll like old school. The centers could have a life.

1374
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Now it's everybody plays all the positions.

1375
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: You know. I watched it on my kids level.

1376
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: It just sucks. Now basketball sucks. Do you know what

1377
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: I do with my free time on the road besides

1378
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: go to the movie theater?

1379
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: It sounds like you cry.

1380
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: No, I go on YouTube and I watched nineties basketball

1381
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: like real games, Like I was watching nineteen ninety final

1382
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: Late Duke you can remember later hit that shout at

1383
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: the buzzer. I was watching Hill had the inbound that

1384
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: we were thinking of. The ninety ninety two final Late

1385
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: Kentucky game. Oh, okay, okay, great, that's the greatest college

1386
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: basketall game of all time. I'm watching Game seven of

1387
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: the ninety NBA Playoffs is another lasers.

1388
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: In the nineties, college basketball was the ship the.

1389
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: Big East was.

1390
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: It was the ship.

1391
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: The Big East in the nineties was.

1392
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: You didn't even need weed if you only had the

1393
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: Big East in the nineties, it was the greatest thing

1394
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: ever ever.

1395
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: Georgetown had the powerhouses of Alonzo Morning and Patrick Ewing.

1396
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh it.

1397
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: Was the Twin Towers Morning in Mtumbo.

1398
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: You want a Tumbo story, this is the true story.

1399
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: Well I'm told the true story. So my best friend

1400
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: went to Georgetown and uh, and I visited him and

1401
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: he was like, there's a story going around about Mtumbo

1402
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: that apparently is like fucking legend. So if you went

1403
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: to Georgetown, let me know if this is right. But

1404
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: this how was told to me, So to Kimba. Back then,

1405
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: people played four fucking years in college. So by the

1406
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: time you were a senior. My god, dude, senior day

1407
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: was a big deal. Apparently to Kim bay Won, either

1408
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: his last day on campus or one of his last

1409
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: days on campus. He was a local celebrities, you can

1410
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: well imagine, and he got up in the lunch room

1411
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: and you know, he's what a seven footer and he

1412
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: gets up, you know, he talks like that. Apparently he

1413
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: got up and opened his arms and said, like an

1414
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: announcing to the public, who wants to sex the Kimbay?

1415
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: I heard this, and apparently apparently a lot of people

1416
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: wanted to sex the Kimbay that day because I'm told

1417
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: he left with his own harem of women and god

1418
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: knows what he did, but I'm sure it was a

1419
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: great time the nineties were you were a big East

1420
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: fan right where your your Stow fan? Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, sure.

1421
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: And then I would also say the last thing is, dude,

1422
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: you could watch football without feeling bad about brain trauma.

1423
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: They used to have like they would show football highlights

1424
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: of people getting fucked up and you'd be like, yeah,

1425
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: they're fucking each other up. Now it's like, you know,

1426
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: they get the blue tent and all that shit.

1427
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: I got a weird related ninety story.

1428
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Remember Cliff Robinson, we played out of you kind of

1429
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: played in the Trailblazers. I covered one in his last

1430
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: year he for the NETS. It was like two or

1431
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: oh three. I was no, it was it was seven.

1432
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: I was working for ESPN, like a low level job,

1433
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: but went to the NETS game to cover it. So

1434
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: you get to go in the locker room before the game,

1435
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: pretend you're like a real reporter, and you're like, oh

1436
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: my god. They leave their wallets and cell phones and money,

1437
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: like remember that. It's me, my co worker, and two

1438
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: European women who I think were pretending to be journalists too.

1439
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: That happened to be in there with blonde hair. Cliff

1440
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: Robinson walks in, looks at us all with a dirty look.

1441
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: He's got giant jeans on goes from zero to dong

1442
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: in like three seconds. Year and the ladies turn around

1443
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: and they're just like and he just looks at me

1444
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: like and dude, he I mean you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1445
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: He was just like, it was like, this is where

1446
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: it happens, so let's do it, you know, and like

1447
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: you could do that stuff from the nineties, we had

1448
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: a fraternity brother who I'm kidding on that, Come on kidding.

1449
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: We had a fraternity brother who was the biggest fucking

1450
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: nerd ever and he had this incredibly hot girlfriend. When

1451
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: I say he was a nerd, dude, I mean like

1452
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: he was a fucking super nerd. He would make and

1453
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: the made media look like cool jocks. He was such

1454
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: a nerd. But we called him stuff a leff agus

1455
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: because we thought it was like, dude, how did he

1456
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: get this girl? Other than for the fact that he

1457
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: must have had a tripod in his pants because he.

1458
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: Had nothing else.

1459
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: Those are the only two ways in the nineties. Yeah,

1460
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about these.

1461
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Mugs, Luke, tell them, tell him your your all, your aunts,

1462
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: and the pants about it?

1463
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think? This is

1464
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: just the beginning merch season. Merch sison is coming is

1465
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: We're very close to this? Okay, how would you look

1466
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: with this?

1467
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember when do you remember when someone someone

1468
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: farted on the Chris Matthews show Hardball and they said

1469
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: there was someone was dragging a mug. No, don't you

1470
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: remember that. I don't remember that. I've tried to drag

1471
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of mugs. It didn't sound like someone bust

1472
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: an ass Sonna point that out.

1473
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh, nineties, also, you know what, the nineties were great

1474
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: for high school movies.

1475
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't the eighties.

1476
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I guess they used to.

1477
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was what's your favorite? What's your favorite teen

1478
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: movies from the nineties? Can hardly wait? That's a good one,

1479
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: and Confused that's a good one. Half Baked but that's yeah, okay,

1480
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: all right, those are good. Half Baked was a great one.

1481
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 1: Fuck Dave Chappelle before Oh.

1482
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just for weed, I mean so good, Yeah,

1483
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: so good.

1484
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: And then the Fairly Brothers we talked about it before,

1485
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: Dumb Dummer and Kingpin and Shallow how Shallow hell an

1486
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: aunts or not?

1487
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: That's an ats And also hot chicks in the mid

1488
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: nineties had that like weird bohemian.

1489
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: Like hippie face. Who was your nineties eighth girl?

1490
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: Jennifer Love Hewett.

1491
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1492
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: You can't top that, you can't, Yeah, you can't.

1493
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1494
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the girl next door to the nines, right like

1495
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: like that's the that's what she was.

1496
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the John Jones of the girl next door.

1497
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I've always had a thing for Salamahayak, but

1498
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: she's like, still.

1499
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: You wouldn't spice. You love spice in your life. You

1500
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: like a lottery women, and I like them. I like

1501
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: as I say, I like them. I like the muchacha

1502
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: malas my friend. You're not going to give us a

1503
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: weird TNA breakdown like I heard you done your life.

1504
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: They asked me a question. What am I fucking supposed

1505
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: to say?

1506
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: You're supposed to act like a man and answer it

1507
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: with a sentence or you don't breakdown, And the difference

1508
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: between TNA and while I like.

1509
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: Don't understand, I knew if I answered that question and

1510
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: the way which you had said locker room style, I

1511
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: was gonna get torn up for it. And even the

1512
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: careful way in which I answered for it, I got

1513
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: hate mail from very sense, from very sensitive.

1514
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: It was like, let me get out a slide rule

1515
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: and break this down.

1516
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it was a terrible answer, but the

1517
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: point being was I knew. I knew I was gonna

1518
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: get in trouble for it, and sure enough I did.

1519
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: People hitting me up about it, being like, this is

1520
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: really a terrible thing.

1521
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: Give me. People pay to ask you questions. I can,

1522
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: I can.

1523
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: No, No, those are free. Those are free.

1524
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: All right? I text you all the time. You never

1525
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: get back to me, you fucking liar.

1526
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: I constantly text you, and you ignore that.

1527
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: You're trying to get me to watch your content all

1528
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: the time.

1529
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Just the one fight story.

1530
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: Come on to watch it.

1531
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of your content, we're not going to watch.

1532
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, you know what we do. We were it

1533
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: is we scour the globe for the best and the good,

1534
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly in combat sports it is.

1535
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: Have you seen this ship?

1536
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Luke?

1537
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1538
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: What Luke?

1539
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: You have?

1540
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: You've been very quiet about this, like this this mi

1541
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: Andi King Brethren dropped the ball today.

1542
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean the show has been.

1543
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: A train wreck?

1544
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean, dude, the budget for the show

1545
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: was like the showtimes, Like I got a stick of

1546
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,959
Speaker 1: gum and a paper clip in my pocket.

1547
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: There you go, dude, all right, here we go. You

1548
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: ever hear of this promotion Crush one O nine. Yep,

1549
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna start off with some spinny ship. Watch good

1550
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: lord hold that? Oh my god, look at the force

1551
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: on that.

1552
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: Do the speed to my god.

1553
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Ah, that's a great way to start out this ship.

1554
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: Look at I mean that is hold that and he

1555
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 2: went right into the coffin. Did you see that? LOOKI

1556
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: basically was like, yep, did he very me?

1557
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Testify? No? Not quite?

1558
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: All right. The weirdest boxing knockout of the weekend took

1559
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: place in Russia. A man named Mark Canelo Irvanov.

1560
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: Look at this bullshit?

1561
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: Look what the hell is that? What?

1562
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: What is this helicopter? Bs?

1563
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: How do you get The man that got killed is

1564
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: Oxol Suleyan bach Ulu and sorry, Russian man, you've been

1565
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: sent to hell? He looks just drop him raf Just

1566
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: do you fall for that ship? And by the way,

1567
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: why does this guy think he's called Canelo? Look at me?

1568
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: That's how our female listeners respond every time the show

1569
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: is over.

1570
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: They're just like, they don't look like Canalo, looks like

1571
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: the dude from Goonies.

1572
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 3: The yeah, all right to watch this is just I

1573
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: have that I guess.

1574
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: So.

1575
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it is coronavirus season, Luke, So you got

1576
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: to keep your your extremities clean, even if you're at

1577
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: the farm.

1578
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: Apparently, what what.

1579
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: Dude, are we now just doing fist videos? What are

1580
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: we doing?

1581
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: Look?

1582
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: Is that what secretion is that is this healthy?

1583
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: Are we just doing? What are you doing? Is that?

1584
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: Can you clean yourself with? With the milk? Is that?

1585
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: Look? A look at the other cow? Like shoving into it? Dude?

1586
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: R Kelly would love this.

1587
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: What is happening right now?

1588
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: No, it's the Dave Chappelle. I'm gonna be on you.

1589
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, Looke, do you know much about farm animals? Like?

1590
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: What what is that? What is that?

1591
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: I work with one every day?

1592
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: Is that milk?

1593
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: What is that?

1594
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: They look like milk to you? Brian call When he

1595
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: rubs down his face, it's like soap. I don't get this.

1596
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he just loves piss. He's like, I don't

1597
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: know what to tell you, dude.

1598
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on here. I want you to

1599
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: watch problems at the gas pump hair, Luke, I don't.

1600
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: Know if you ever let your wife, Oh did he

1601
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: just drive off?

1602
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: This guy's letting his wife try to She can't get

1603
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: it in there. She can't find the hole. I mean,

1604
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: is nice, It won't fit in there. Here's what you what? Now?

1605
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: Watch them Watch her husband's face. I think he just said,

1606
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: what the affter you doing that?

1607
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: What?

1608
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: What?

1609
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Luke?

1610
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: What is that is that? Like an adult movie thing.

1611
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: She was trying to put some lube on it. Right,

1612
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: that looks like jersey.

1613
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: That's probably right around the corner from the jersey they

1614
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: make your pump do that. It's it's like old school. Yeah,

1615
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: you think they changed my oil.

1616
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: If I asked, well, you know what? She looks like

1617
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: a rim job? Baby? Wow? Bro, Oh my god, I

1618
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't know. She's spat on her.

1619
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not appropriate, that's not acceptable. All right,

1620
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: let's go back to some fight.

1621
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on. He looks at her and goes,

1622
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? Rolling back? Rolling back,

1623
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: started over? Watch his face. He she's spit, dude, she's

1624
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: a pro. I want to meet this lady. I'm married,

1625
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: but in another life. Watch she can't get it in.

1626
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: It's a little bit stuck. Watch this, Look at this,

1627
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Look at this fucking pro. God damn, young lady. Watch

1628
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: his face. What the what the fuck are you doing?

1629
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow?

1630
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: And I'm glad to be are proud to be at America.

1631
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: You want to see dead body? Let's roll on here.

1632
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: How about Daichi Makami here in round one? Hold those

1633
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: superhero pants?

1634
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: What is he? What is what about? I'm guessing This

1635
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: took place in Japan. More about Japanese Enemy. I just

1636
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: can't get into the clown ship.

1637
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Toshiki Ishikawa is the man who lunges into death hair

1638
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: but put his.

1639
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: Hands to the side to just let Robin. No, that's like,

1640
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: h you know what I was gonna say.

1641
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 3: It's yeah, how are you allowed to fight in that?

1642
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: It's Superman pants? Jay?

1643
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not Superman pants. But Jay's dumb.

1644
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: Jason father of three, Very very few people know that Jason,

1645
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: father of three and he's like twenty. It's like, how

1646
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: is that possible? Jay?

1647
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: Probably because he was in a boy band. You missed

1648
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: last week's show.

1649
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was hoping to get in on the

1650
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: roast on that.

1651
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Lethwey, where they love killing people.

1652
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: Check out this tornado punch carry Von Eric style.

1653
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Luke, there's a storm coming. There's a

1654
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 3: storm coming quick given the bunker. Good god, how is

1655
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: this happening in a real fight, Luke?

1656
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they got farmers and shit fighting in this.

1657
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, ah, God, the people are falling

1658
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: for some weird shit this week.

1659
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah?

1660
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's go out to the streets. Let's

1661
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: do a little street fight stuff.

1662
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: Would you consider this the uh Barbosa Adam of the street? God,

1663
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: it's over, it's over look, it's.

1664
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: All take that.

1665
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

1666
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: This should be like the end of Naked Gun when

1667
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: like the plow just drives over the dead body.

1668
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: He took him off of his feet. Watch the other

1669
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: guy's feet?

1670
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: Who breaks them out a street fight?

1671
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: Luke? Seeing that makes me want to celebrate, makes me

1672
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: want to crack open a beer. Let's go into the

1673
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: XFL locker room. They do things extreme. Check out this

1674
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: savage Luke.

1675
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: Good lord? Is that is that Derek?

1676
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: He was a d one scholarship athlete.

1677
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: How come you're not? Are you not even good enough

1678
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: for the XFL? Really, dude, Luke, he broke.

1679
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: The can open with his teeth. That's like some like

1680
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: animalistic shit going on.

1681
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: You don't that man?

1682
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: Is that Latimer from what's that football movie in the

1683
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: nineties that we loved?

1684
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: Remember the White Guy Who.

1685
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: Program? Yes, I saw that opening night when the guy

1686
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: laid on the road and there was a fight in

1687
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: the theater. It was fantastic, Luke, all right, can we

1688
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: roll the next live? This is very This remind to

1689
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: me of teen Wolf, Luke, what great eighties movie team

1690
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: of us so great? I can't believe we believe that

1691
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: Michael J. Fox could unkle ball, but he did turn

1692
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: into a wolf. Look at this?

1693
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I.

1694
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: Like how it was just like everyone in high schools like, yeah,

1695
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: we got this wolf.

1696
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: And then he of course do you think he banged

1697
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: booth in the in storyline.

1698
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're super cool. Meanwhile, like, there's no chance.

1699
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't understand how the women fell for him as

1700
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: a as like a Harry bastard. You know what I'm saying.

1701
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: You had that swag, bro, and probably he was like

1702
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: snuffle off against.

1703
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: He was a Cliff Robinson. By the way, what is

1704
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: going through Cliff Robinson's mind when he does that?

1705
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: What? What is that movie?

1706
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: Sexual harassment?

1707
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 2: I guess that wasn't so cool. We'll take that back,

1708
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: all right. Hey, let's roll on from this. Let's go

1709
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: to Indonesia. There's a promotion called One Fight. Have you

1710
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: seen that championship? Shout out to Gribacca Hitman for giving

1711
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: us this piece of business. This is the this sjoury

1712
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: israe a lot of Sonya with flower pedals, Luke, this

1713
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: is a little bit more extreme. You're done with this, Luke,

1714
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what the what's.

1715
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: The video package of the dude just doing strong man

1716
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: ship is?

1717
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: It's like bohemian grove like satanic stuff going on?

1718
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: Right here? Are these the world leaders right here meeting?

1719
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: Look at this guy rise up from the ground. How

1720
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: do you find you better knocked the guy out? You

1721
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: better have done some spinny ass shit to knock the

1722
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: guy out if you're gonna make us all wait through this,

1723
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: uh satanic ritual here?

1724
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: What is happening?

1725
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: And the belt's a complete ripoff of the bad UFCA

1726
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: belt too. Yeah, those are bad. Those are real bad funny.

1727
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, are we in a Coulton Luca?

1728
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess okay, all right, I'm just waiting for

1729
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: someone else to get peed on.

1730
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to twitter over the weekend. Look, you referenced

1731
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: this earlier in the show, but what the hell? Look

1732
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: what is going on here? What is really going on?

1733
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: What does this to a colleague and a friend here?

1734
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: What? I was amazed, I mean this was I was

1735
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: proud of you. You're turning this into something it's not.

1736
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: Once again, you love everything I say to be the

1737
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: most bad faith interpretation. I was actually kind of proud

1738
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: of you that you were sitting front row. I'm being dead, sir.

1739
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: I was in the John Morgan position, right, I didn't

1740
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: have to wear a blue shirt.

1741
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't, I do. I was like legitimate. I

1742
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: was like, wow, he got fined.

1743
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: All right.

1744
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 3: I thought you were. I thought you were pissed. I

1745
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: really thought that.

1746
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

1747
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: I thought that pissed. By the way, that's a great

1748
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: show right there. Look at how young you were. Look

1749
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: at the tight jawline here, Luke pre children.

1750
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: Right, and I had no gray in my beard. Fuck?

1751
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 3: Wow, that show that was great.

1752
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 2: See. I thought you were doing almost like a can

1753
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: we roll the next one? Like I get off my

1754
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: lawn type thing?

1755
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, it looks so pissed, right,

1756
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: I see again? You just don't you want to make

1757
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: sure everything I say is the worst.

1758
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't see how you can interpret that differently. But

1759
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: if you were praising me, Luke, then our friendship is back.

1760
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: Okay.

1761
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 2: I just wanted to tell you it's not your fault though, Luke. Okay,

1762
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: it's not your fault. You didn't sit there, all right.

1763
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: I would love if you can sit next to me

1764
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: one day though, would love that, all right. I'm just wondering. Also,

1765
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: do you like apples, Luke? Because I sat in the

1766
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: front row, So how do you like?

1767
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: Then? Again, I like how you're insulting me, and I'm

1768
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: not even mad at you.

1769
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: Also, Luke, I have a question for you if we

1770
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: could roll the next one may be too soon for this,

1771
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: but uh uh, Kobe, tell.

1772
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: Me, really, you're gonna put up his Kobe inside.

1773
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna fight me.

1774
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: We were living in a post Kobe death world. And

1775
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: this is when you're gonna pull out. Really all right?

1776
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: Maybe he was talking. Maybe he was talking to Kobe Taie.

1777
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that's who he was really talking to, in which

1778
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: case she would know, Yes, she might know that. All right, Hey,

1779
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: let's go to the next one. Here, this is how

1780
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: the Dakastani celebrate, Luke. They shoot in made you look

1781
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: You're a slave to a page in my rhyme book with.

1782
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: The old Andre Carrol Lincoln.

1783
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: Look at these mother efforts. Now watch this guy in

1784
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: the black jacket, he's he's hiding one.

1785
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: Look at it, Look at it.

1786
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: Pull that piece out.

1787
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: I gotta get in on this. We gotta shoot some shit.

1788
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: These could be hebe fans are great, Luke. I love

1789
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: that these guys go in the arena April a teeth

1790
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn right.

1791
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are not practicing affective weapons safety. I can

1792
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: assure you.

1793
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: That is great. Look at the alcohol on the table there, Luke.

1794
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: Look at I always say, you know what mixes really well?

1795
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: Ak forty sevens and Greg Goose.

1796
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes it does.

1797
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, We're gonna close with this video.

1798
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1799
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, but somebody DM me and said,

1800
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 2: Luke is gonna love this. Play this for Luke. I'm

1801
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: not responsible for the content. Look at this old Asian

1802
01:10:53,000 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: master with a blow dart. Oh my god, that gives

1803
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: no miny to the term blowdot. Luke, look at.

1804
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I legitimately think a booker shot out of my nose.

1805
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did not submit that though, because.

1806
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: I have to.

1807
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: Are you and the boyscout that someone's just like I

1808
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: haven't in your face, I have.

1809
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: Exited the dick trade.

1810
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I got too deep, you know, like you know

1811
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: they called they calling you, Luke.

1812
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: Trust if my booker was dude, you're like that guy

1813
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: who's like one more job, one more job, as a

1814
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: bank robber. One more job as the gangster, just one

1815
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: more dong. I just can't leave the doll game, all right?

1816
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: Well that in mind, having seen Dix, let's get to it.

1817
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: Odds and ends. What is your odds and ends for today? Brian?

1818
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: Some boxing to check out this weekend. Look are you

1819
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: walk on? Shirkers Stevenson the Featherway Champions first title defense

1820
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: at the the Saturday at the MSG Theater. I think

1821
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: it's an ESPN or A PLUS fight, not really sure,

1822
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: but he's fighting Miguel Mariago, the tough Filipino brawler. For

1823
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: all the bright young prospects in boxing, I just you're

1824
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: really bad. We have a lot of them, Luke, from

1825
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: the Devin Hanes to the tail Fema lopez'z. I don't

1826
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: think Shirker Stevenson gets enough play. Yes, he's a knockout

1827
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: threat in any parking garage in the country.

1828
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: But Luke, he may end up getting he may end

1829
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 3: up being better.

1830
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: Than all of them. I mean, this guy has like

1831
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: legitimate quickness, handspeed, and he's got a great personality. He's

1832
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: become like a little brother the Terrence Crawford. So can

1833
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: you can imagine what that sparring is like he named

1834
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: after Tupac Sercord by the way, and I think he's

1835
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: going to end up being not I'm not gonna say

1836
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: he's a Floyd, but I'm saying long term, I think

1837
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are going to eventually find

1838
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: their place.

1839
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: I think he's going to keep shooting.

1840
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 2: He's twenty sixer and Jess has speed and he goes

1841
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: after it. And also showbox this weekend. You know who's

1842
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: going to get a test? Brandon Lee, twenty year old prospect.

1843
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: Done Brand Dunlee, twenty year old prospect at one forty.

1844
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: This is his moment to sort of step into now

1845
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: tough matchmaking and he's gonna be out there on Friday

1846
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: night from Hinckley, Minnesota in the main event. Good looking

1847
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: young kid eighteen and oero with sixteen KOs. His opponent's

1848
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: name is Camellio Prieto fifteen and two. This is his

1849
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: first big test. A good looking kidd. He could bang,

1850
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Look, yeah, who I mean

1851
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: if if what's his name wrote a song about him

1852
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: would probably be uh, he bangs, he bangs, he bangs.

1853
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna that joke is just gonna keep I

1854
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: can get so much.

1855
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: Out of it. Speaking of nineties references, I guess so

1856
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: for my odds and ends, I'll say you were there

1857
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: for the Tony versus Kabibe presser. It was a little

1858
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: bit weird. Huh.

1859
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: That was great.

1860
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: Now you're of the impression that way the way Tony

1861
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: was handling himself rattled Habib.

1862
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: I think he got in Abib's head. Think of all

1863
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: the crap that Connor did, and Habib had been stoic.

1864
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: What good did it do? Connor?

1865
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, but Habib kicked the title and he kind of

1866
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: like what you know, he went off on the whole

1867
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: street fight thing. No.

1868
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: The thing that that it caught me by not surprised

1869
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: or called my I should say call my attention, was

1870
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: when Habib was like, you know, actually, Tony says, I'm

1871
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: not even thinking about him, and he was like really

1872
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: not thinking about him. He's like, yeah, I take this

1873
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: guy serious. I actually am thinking about him. I'm training,

1874
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, all the way around him because I'm taking

1875
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: those thing seriously. He didn't have much to say beyond that,

1876
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: but you could tell there's a part where was like,

1877
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:04,879
Speaker 1: they're not even taking this seriously.

1878
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: I talked to interviewed to be but I don't know

1879
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: if you saw a dominance. MMA did like the full

1880
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: on like the media day, which was actually great. So

1881
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: shout out to Ali and them for giving us all

1882
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 2: this access. I do actually enjoy that. I asked to

1883
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: be able, Like, look, the narrative is that Tony is

1884
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: the only guy who who can do this, who has

1885
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 2: the chance to beat He's like, yeah, agree with that.

1886
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: He's the only one. So he is taking this serious enough,

1887
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: realized it's such a important fight for his legacy. You've

1888
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: correctly noted before that those aren't really press conferences.

1889
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: I think you've called them what pep rallies.

1890
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the media has a choice to make

1891
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: about how they handle this. Dude.

1892
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this, you ask questions of these things,

1893
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: I try to, I don't. I mean, they usually have

1894
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: their people they go to right away, and then usually

1895
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: first usually get the person who doesn't deserve to be

1896
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: up there, who asks eight questions in a row, usually

1897
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: about weed, and just goes off the rails. I'll say this, though,

1898
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: You're right, those aren't the greatest settings for journalistic representation.

1899
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mark Ramundy freshly trying to ask the

1900
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: question about the coronavirus. Shout out to Morgan Campbell that

1901
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: time when he got shut down at the last paper

1902
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 2: of you asking something.

1903
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 3: Shout out to that.

1904
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: Guy who tried to talk about mental health and Tony

1905
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: Ferguson told him to f off. But those are insanely fun, Luke.

1906
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: I don't think you can say a bad thing about them,

1907
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: like they your kind of fun. It's not like it's

1908
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: my kind of fun. You would, I would have fun.

1909
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: I would have fun here. Look here, here's my view

1910
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 2: on it.

1911
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: Stop having the media go like if you are a

1912
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: videographer here a photographer, that's different. But you should give

1913
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: the questions back to the fans because there's a central

1914
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: tension that happens where the guy who asked the question

1915
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: to Tony Ferguson fought in a war. He's an army vet.

1916
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: If Tony didn't want to talk about it, he didn't

1917
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. But I thought he could

1918
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: have been more profession I mean, you're telling an army

1919
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: vet who's in touch with PTSD to fuck off because

1920
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: he's praising you for dealing with mental health issues. Seems

1921
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: over the line. And by the way, it doesn't even

1922
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: make sense if you wanted to take away from people

1923
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: asking about it, telling him to fuck off just brings

1924
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: more attention to you, So it doesn't even really work.

1925
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: It's not an effective strategy. But here's my point.

1926
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: It was the wrong time to ask it when he's

1927
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: trying to be when he's trying to be crazy bad.

1928
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: Ask guy who has gloves in a business.

1929
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's not the wrong time to ask in

1930
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: the sense that I'll agree with you, in the sense

1931
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: that at a real press conference, if it was a

1932
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: real press conference, it would be completely normal. The problem

1933
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: is they're not real. You have an audience there, and

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Speaker 1: the audience is there to see their favorite fighters. Those

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Speaker 1: here to see their favorite fighters talk a little shit,

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Speaker 1: and they're here to see their favorite fighters talk about

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Speaker 1: stuff that's in the news or their upcoming fight. They

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear the other things that the media

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Speaker 1: has to talk about. So give it back to the fans.

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Speaker 1: Let the fans ask the questions.

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Speaker 2: You can self still having media upfront and leading the

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Speaker 2: conversation as long as it look like there's just people

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Speaker 2: at our a hole. It's like, I get that this

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Speaker 2: is your moment, so I'm gonna ask about Hey, Dana,

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Speaker 2: you're coming back to our area. Like, get those questions

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Speaker 2: out of here. Let's focus on the two fighters.

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Speaker 1: But you can't put rules on what media can ask

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have Okay, okay, I agree. You want

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Speaker 1: to have media that have media there to do its job.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want media to do its job, I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that. Give it back to the cree.

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Speaker 3: I don't want rules on questions.

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Speaker 2: But I've been this. I've covered boxing for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The boxing is getting better, but they still don't get it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, how many press boxing press conferences?

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Speaker 2: So you have two fighters I can't talk to begin with,

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Speaker 2: and then we bring out the beverage general manager from

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Speaker 2: MGM grand to tell you how happy he is, and everybody, no,

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Speaker 2: you know, you just have a lot of bs. They

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Speaker 2: caught right to the core of what matters. That thing

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Speaker 2: is the hype a fight. It hypes the fight every

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Speaker 2: single time. It being there. Luke is more exciting than

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Speaker 2: some fights. It's it's it's like, all.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is if the media are playing themselves by

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Speaker 1: going to this to get humiliated. So my point, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're playing at this point.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: This point, you're playing yourself.

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Speaker 3: So you have to play along with the theme of

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not a journalistic uh people.

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Speaker 1: And people always ask why can't you ask at a

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Speaker 1: different time. Well, some people get access to Kobeb, some

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Speaker 1: people get access to Tony. I don't know about the

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Speaker 1: case of the guy who asked about the mental health.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but a lot of people don't. That's

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Speaker 1: like their only time. So again, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: invite the fans to me, it's a fan event. If

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Speaker 1: you're not going to invite the fans, it's a media event,

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Speaker 1: simple as deck. That's it.

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Speaker 2: You can enjoy it though, allow yourself to enjoy it,

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, But just to close on that,

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Speaker 2: did you take anything from it that could affect the fight.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for the fight, and I did find

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Speaker 1: Tony's I didn't understand the baseball. I didn't understand the gloves,

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Speaker 1: but it's a lot to know. A man was that

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Speaker 1: what it was.

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Speaker 2: And the baseball was so he can catch if somebody

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Speaker 2: runs from him, he can throw it at him. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that makes sense. I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: that right as it was he was doing. I'm incredibly

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Speaker 2: excited for it, you know. To be honest, one thing

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about was the coronavirus. I really hope

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Speaker 2: it doesn't care. My wife's in a corporate event plan

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Speaker 2: and they're canceling events left.

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Speaker 3: They canceled south By, Southwest and Austin. That's pretty big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost three hundred million dollars to the local

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Speaker 1: economy in terms of.

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Speaker 2: You look you are. You're a well put together, educated person.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this will lead to our economy going

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Speaker 2: down the hill?

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Speaker 1: It's possible. Do you see the doubt this morning? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't follow that ten minutes to drop two thousand points,

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Speaker 1: So not great.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying save your money, put it under your.

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Speaker 1: It depends how lasting it is, and it depends to

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Speaker 1: what extent people either don't go out. How bad it affects,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, what's goningn efect. It's gon afect

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Speaker 1: service workers.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have empty arena matches.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: And you had Lebron being like if the fans ain't there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing, dude, like in Syria and Italy, like

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Speaker 1: Ronaldo is playing to empty stadiums left and right. You

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Speaker 1: see what he did yesterday on the news. He gets

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Speaker 1: off the bus and he puts his hands out like

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Speaker 1: he's walking down the tunnel, like he was slapping hands

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Speaker 1: with the fans. He still goes along with it, because, dude,

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Speaker 1: do you see they almost the entire north of Italy

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Speaker 1: has been quarantined. They're quarantining a quarter of the Italian population.

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Speaker 1: It's so bad.

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Speaker 3: Art in Victoria should hide.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he lives in Italy right now,

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Speaker 1: but okay, uh, last on this, speaking of the fans again,

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Speaker 1: just give the event back to the fans. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: give something to you, guys, which is an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna rip them for going way too

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Speaker 2: early in the main event on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: They did. I mean, they're there to see entertainment, like yeah, here,

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Speaker 1: but this isn't a real opportunity for you. So we

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Speaker 1: have this sign if we can see the post, let

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Speaker 1: me get this out for Fox's sake. We have this

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Speaker 1: thing behind Brian Campbell, the tip to tip thing. Now

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. We would like you, guys, if you

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Speaker 1: want merch to submit some fan couple of things. I

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Speaker 1: want you to keep in mind we want to use

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Speaker 1: that as inspiration, which means you can literally do a

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01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: tip to tip kind of artwork, or you can do

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Speaker 1: it as a bit of a mindset like way to

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Speaker 1: think about things.

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Speaker 3: So what he's saying is no dongs, That's really what

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Speaker 3: he's saying.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is get creative with it, and don't

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01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to be literal with it.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're acting like this isn't a corporate

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Speaker 2: decision to get this weird stuff off the wall.

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Speaker 1: It totally is they want to add off the wall.

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Speaker 1: But we have a chance for you out there, for

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: fan art to submit it to us. So send a

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Speaker 1: DM to our Instagram account at Morning Combat on Instagram.

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01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: Shoot a DM there, Get as creative as you want.

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Speaker 1: We want to see shirts, hats, mugs. We'll got the mug,

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Speaker 1: but everything else in creative.

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Speaker 2: You see our guy web Scream, you know the guy

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01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: that yeah God, he put together a video of the

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Speaker 2: five stages of grief. When he asked that question last week,

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Speaker 2: if Corona's going to take down the two.

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: And there you can see the social on YouTube Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat and then Instagram Morning Combat with a K. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is your chance, This is your chance. If you

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Speaker 1: would like to submit some fan art, we would love.

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Speaker 2: To have you.

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Speaker 3: Love to put it up in the massage parlor.

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Speaker 1: Here, we'll wear it. We'll do a whole thing, no handles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what financial compensation there will be. I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing we're just hoarding our fans for cheap labor. We're

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Speaker 1: doing a gig economy bit. But still it's coming.

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Speaker 2: Though merch is coming. Our show is evolving. You know

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Speaker 2: Aaron Bronstutter from TSN, he's great. He has pitched an

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Speaker 2: idea that he said, I have to ask you on

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01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: the air about, which is we close each week with

2074
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: a gambling segment where you and I give a pick

2075
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Speaker 2: in this in combat gambling and call it tip to tip.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't tell him it was a winner.

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Speaker 2: I said it was good. I'll pitch it to Luke.

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Speaker 3: I'll and maybe he'll.

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Speaker 1: Catch Aaron, you should be a viewer, not a producer. Okay, wow,

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01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: I like Aaron. Sorry, we have to do I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: I've got another job, by the way, interviewing a style

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01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: bend here today.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for we get merch where the t

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Speaker 2: shirts say I have another job or fu.

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Speaker 1: J or doesn't have to be this way. I'm just

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: saying it is this way because everyone wants to underpay me,

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: so I gotta take multiple jobs. Okay, that is Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him as he saw on the social

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Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter, on Instagram, and a bunch of other places.

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Speaker 1: Give the video thumbs up, subscribe to the channel, tell

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Speaker 1: your friends about it, and until next time, may all

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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal.