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Speaker 1: preview the Dallas defense going up against the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: on offense, we move into the latter parts of the
Speaker 1: NFL season alongside Isaiah stand Backpatrick Nose Walker, Chris Beave
Speaker 1: in the backup, Kyle Yeoman's Week thirteen is officially upon us.
Speaker 1: As we turned the page. Took a little bit to
Speaker 1: get here because it felt like the Cowboys played the
Speaker 1: Giants on Thanksgiving a week ago. Oh wait, it was
Speaker 1: nearly a week ago by this point. This is where
Speaker 1: the long week pays off though, right Finally we get
Speaker 1: a little bit of rest. Do you get this? Just
Speaker 1: a schmidgen, not a ton, not a lot, but just
Speaker 1: a schmid sid in a pancake and they normally. You
Speaker 1: made me sad by saying coming to the end of
Speaker 1: the regular season, that's a little somber. I mean there's
Speaker 1: still six weeks left, ye go by so fast. Plus
Speaker 1: postseason it's a thirty six games plus it is gonna
Speaker 1: go by quickly by I mean, think about it. The
Speaker 1: college football. College football regular season is over, Mario bean reality.
Speaker 1: But the college football regular season is done now. That
Speaker 1: is going on. That is going to the conference. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going to the conference I don't come, we should
Speaker 1: be there, but sorry, Bud. Yeah, I was about to say,
Speaker 1: you kind of got the short end of the stick
Speaker 1: and the utes ended up in that title game. Tell
Speaker 1: you who will be there? Who's there? You're doing right?
Speaker 1: They will be facts go mean Green taking us down
Speaker 1: in the Alum. I don't know where you does gonna
Speaker 1: be at yet. You have to wait and see what
Speaker 1: happens with the with the conference game. You gotta have
Speaker 1: set in the conference game. The conference game has like
Speaker 1: I think, if USC wins something weird so I don't
Speaker 1: remember what it is, the USC versus Utah and whichever.
Speaker 1: Depending on what team wins, we might get bumped up
Speaker 1: and get into one of the big boy ball. If
Speaker 1: USC wins, then they have a chance to go to
Speaker 1: the playoff. Yeah, but if they don't make the playoff,
Speaker 1: I'll probably be in the Rose Bowl. And then if
Speaker 1: they lose, I think Washington would probably be in the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Is kind of how it is. And your
Speaker 1: boy will be there. Yeah you want to extra ticket,
Speaker 1: I'll go with you. Freaking I'll wear all the purple.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll wear all the purple. I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to go to the Rose Bowl. That's smart. I can
Speaker 1: do that. I've That's a sports bucket list thing for
Speaker 1: is the Rose Bowl. I've always wanted to go. I
Speaker 1: watched it every single year, no matter who the teams
Speaker 1: are in it. I love the Rose Bowl. That's like
Speaker 1: one of my my go to one, like the actual
Speaker 1: stadium or actual game, the actual game. Okay, like I
Speaker 1: can buy it. Taking to go to a UCLA game
Speaker 1: actually not the same. They even didn't do anything for
Speaker 1: me really. Yeah. I like playing the game though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand strong making me quiet. Mmm. Oh you
Speaker 1: want to go to shut them? Shut them down? Shut
Speaker 1: them down. Nothing like shutting up one hundred thousand people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never had that. That instance have you, Patrick, you
Speaker 1: ever had that opportunity. I didn't have to do a
Speaker 1: snoddy nose m all right, all right, let's talk some
Speaker 1: some news and notes for the Cowboys. Believe it or not,
Speaker 1: yesterday was not a quiet Tuesday. It was not. There
Speaker 1: were a couple of things that happened around the Star.
Speaker 1: Please do hell, Patrick, what's going on? Well? First and foremost,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys waved defensive end Terrel Basham on yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 1: There was no corresponding roster move, which leaves, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit to the imagination. For me, not a
Speaker 1: lot is left to the imagination. I know there are
Speaker 1: people on Twitter who immediately jump into OBJ or they're
Speaker 1: making room for Obj. Obj hasn't even started his visits
Speaker 1: just yet, those who are supposed to start in a
Speaker 1: couple of days or so. But somebody is about to
Speaker 1: get a really good freaking defense in oh in Terrel Bashem.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, once he's he's going to get because he
Speaker 1: and the point of housekeeping for those that don't know,
Speaker 1: after the NFL trade deadline, everybody is subject to waivers,
Speaker 1: every single player. So Basham was not released. He was waived,
Speaker 1: so he has to clear waivers. In order for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to reconsider him for the practice squad. I do
Speaker 1: not see him. John ridge Way didn't clear waivers. Terrell
Speaker 1: Basham ain't clearing waivers now. I would love to eat
Speaker 1: those words later on What time does that kind of
Speaker 1: come down? Uh? Today of like three? Right? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: has to be by four pp of Eastern time, three
Speaker 1: people centralime you would utilize your Christmas wish. Yes, he
Speaker 1: can back, it's just chance. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: But and and also the waiver order changes on a
Speaker 1: week to week basis based upon the NFL standing. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys with a record of eight and three, they're
Speaker 1: towards the bottom as far as the waiver order. But
Speaker 1: but is that in relation to a possible deceptive contact
Speaker 1: you posted on your on your Twitter account. And that's
Speaker 1: where I was leading. And so those that are saying
Speaker 1: we'll get to that, those that are the same, it's
Speaker 1: for OBJ. It's too soon for OBJ. Didn't have to
Speaker 1: make the move for a guy who's not in the
Speaker 1: building yet or even imminent to be in the building yet.
Speaker 1: Number two, I don't see how it would be for
Speaker 1: either to Ron Smith or James Washington, because if You're
Speaker 1: not going to just throw those guys into practice and
Speaker 1: then say, guess what, you're on the active roster for
Speaker 1: this coming Sunday. No, they have to have their twenty
Speaker 1: one day windows activated. Both would be acclimated, and now
Speaker 1: we go to so okay, that's it sounded kind of
Speaker 1: robotic at first, but then you actually said the word
Speaker 1: decepticon and it totally messed. It went away. It sounded
Speaker 1: like it sounded like you were that sound like Elf
Speaker 1: or something like. Wow, that was good Tech McKinley. Who
Speaker 1: I feel like this would be a great opportunity for
Speaker 1: Tech McKinley. Um My gut tells me not. Nothing is
Speaker 1: official obviously, but it will be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: today or before the week is out, if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: make the decision to activate Tech McKinley from the practice
Speaker 1: squad permanently to the fifty three man roster. Because now
Speaker 1: you have a seat and guess what, it's a vacancy
Speaker 1: created by a defensive and um being waived. Did he
Speaker 1: always look like that? Tech more yells me for a second,
Speaker 1: but then I realized I was no days off, no
Speaker 1: days off, like seriously, no days off? Angry? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was focused. He was focused, So the Cowboys elevated him
Speaker 1: from the practice squad last Saturday. It appears as it
Speaker 1: was insurance because they were dealing with illness and going
Speaker 1: back to the manybody. That came at a perfect time
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys were retired from three days, three games
Speaker 1: and twelve days plus illness was you know, virls virus
Speaker 1: was making its rounds, so they're getting healthy. But while
Speaker 1: elevated from the practice squad on Saturday, he was made
Speaker 1: inactive on Sunday, complete surprise to a lot of us.
Speaker 1: But now does that utilize one of there? It does?
Speaker 1: It does, which would be a moot point if they
Speaker 1: signed him to the active rosters this week, right, So yes,
Speaker 1: it does clear the way for Tech McKinley, which would
Speaker 1: be an official reunion with Dak Quinn or Dad Quinn.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn chops out to Dak. See I got Dak
Speaker 1: on the brain. Shout out to Quin, but a reunion
Speaker 1: with dan Quinn. We see what dan Quinn was able
Speaker 1: to do with Dante Fowler. If Tach McKinley can get
Speaker 1: back to the form he had in year one, two
Speaker 1: and even three before restruck in Atlanta, and you're talking
Speaker 1: about it from a rotational capacity behind during some Armstrong
Speaker 1: behind DeMarcus Lawrence in addition to Sam Williams, Dante followers
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys right now, Yeah, I'm I'm ready for my guy,
Speaker 1: and I pounded the table those that followed me back
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen New and they know Tack McKinley was
Speaker 1: my dude. That was my guy and Dan Quinn, by god,
Speaker 1: I love you, but you stole them from me. You
Speaker 1: stole them from me. The Cowboys were going to take
Speaker 1: you stole them. Yeah. They really liked him back then
Speaker 1: and it led us to it led us to the burrito.
Speaker 1: He was. He was destroying Dallas in the first was
Speaker 1: the first series or two whatever it was before he
Speaker 1: pulled us growing. Yeah, that was it. Last year. Last
Speaker 1: year he was just like getting off the ball like
Speaker 1: a madman and like had issues and then he pulled
Speaker 1: us grown and I was violent. Yeah, And we talked
Speaker 1: about it when we were talking about in dumb Kinsue,
Speaker 1: you said wanted an a hole. Yeah, he wanted the
Speaker 1: d head. As far as in between the lines, Tech
Speaker 1: is visceral, He's nasty, he's filthy McNasty. It is time
Speaker 1: to get after the opposing quarterback. And you saw the
Speaker 1: video I posted, and uh, it's even more impressive in
Speaker 1: real life. I still I can't get past the fact
Speaker 1: that Isaiah thought that Tach looked like him held that
Speaker 1: in there. I think it didn't. I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: I thought it was old folk outside. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was me, really old. I think it looks
Speaker 1: more like DeMarcus Lawrence. It looks. But yeah, so Tech Mike,
Speaker 1: we'll keep eye on it. But there's a seat available
Speaker 1: for guy like Tech McKinley to come in and start
Speaker 1: contributed to a pass for us. That's already the best league.
Speaker 1: There's room. And he's also a very a very effective
Speaker 1: run stop. So for those things. That's kind of know
Speaker 1: where I was about to go there. The sack numbers
Speaker 1: have never been massive with Tach McKinley. He had twenty
Speaker 1: sacks throughout his career, and most of those came in
Speaker 1: the first two seasons when he had thirteen, so he
Speaker 1: had six and twenty seventeen. He had seven and twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: so most of his sacks came in the first two
Speaker 1: seasons in the NFL. However, he's always been good at
Speaker 1: stopping the run. He's able to get from gap to gap.
Speaker 1: He's able to control the edge and set the edge.
Speaker 1: There are things that he can benefit this defense. While
Speaker 1: other guys will be the pass rushers. You can get Dlaw,
Speaker 1: you can get Michael Parsons, you can get Dante Fowler Junior,
Speaker 1: and Dorance Armstrong. Those guys. Wow, I just named four
Speaker 1: guys that can absolutely wreck a pass rushing all this
Speaker 1: padded pass rushing in defensive ends. Does this mean that
Speaker 1: Mica is going to be a second, second level boar.
Speaker 1: For those that have followed a little bit of not
Speaker 1: necessarily breaking news, but news that people have been waiting for,
Speaker 1: James Washington has been officially designated to return to practice
Speaker 1: from IR. His twenty one day window starts right now.
Speaker 1: I didn't answer Isaiah's question, didn't right down the back.
Speaker 1: So yeah, OK, back to what you were saying. That's
Speaker 1: really good news back toward you because I was concerned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about Yeah, you're talking about yesterday. So here
Speaker 1: we are good to have him there. So he's got
Speaker 1: twenty one days of a window. Two always have to
Speaker 1: put him on the active roster, be on the active
Speaker 1: roster for him back to season ending niner. That's kind
Speaker 1: of scary with James Washington, it would be there. YEA,
Speaker 1: So question for you, if he's not health let's just
Speaker 1: say he's not by the twenty one day window at
Speaker 1: the end of the twenty even right now. If he's
Speaker 1: not even, say he's not even in the ninetieth percent
Speaker 1: town right now, what would be the motivation for this
Speaker 1: training staff to activate that window right now? Right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no benefit, right, no motivation at the moment. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So for them to designate him to return, he should
Speaker 1: be relatively close to healthy. Yeah. Yeah. He told me
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago that he was one hundred percent
Speaker 1: healthy and that the final hurdle was in fact the
Speaker 1: mental aspect because he had never suffered a major injury
Speaker 1: in his football career, so he had to figure out
Speaker 1: how to come back from that. Mentally, he's still gonna
Speaker 1: be dealing with that, and yes he is. And game reps, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need actual live reps in order to get that.
Speaker 1: To this feels a lot like last year. Man, Why
Speaker 1: just guys, your team getting better coming back towards the playoffs,
Speaker 1: towards the playoff, potential playoff friend sure, you're getting stronger,
Speaker 1: you feel the momentum, you feel like you're kind of
Speaker 1: you're playing better. You're playing better, you guys are getting healthy,
Speaker 1: you're getting guys back. Like it just feels very much
Speaker 1: like last year, which is what the season won't end
Speaker 1: in six or seven games. But it wasn't that, and
Speaker 1: I realized that it came a little bit off time
Speaker 1: as far as the news is concerned, but it was right.
Speaker 1: It's right there in the rundown. It just it worked. No,
Speaker 1: it worked. It worked. So there's no word. If I
Speaker 1: saw it on NFL Network everything as I was walking in,
Speaker 1: it was talking about how Tyron Tyrone Smith might return
Speaker 1: to practice next week. Is that Do you have anything
Speaker 1: on that? Uh? No, Okay, it's possible that the rumor
Speaker 1: that they're they're throwing out there, it's possible, and I
Speaker 1: mean it was possible for this week. Yeah, So being
Speaker 1: that it was possible for this week, it's absolutely possible
Speaker 1: for next week. And it's going to continue to be
Speaker 1: possible until it doesn't happen. But I will say that
Speaker 1: it becomes increasingly more possible and likely as the weeks progress,
Speaker 1: because now we're about to cross paths across the threshold
Speaker 1: until the month of December. And my thought process on
Speaker 1: you know, in the conversations that I've had, is that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the beginning, we're looking at a mid
Speaker 1: December return for Smith, for the older Ty Smith. So
Speaker 1: we're going up against that because it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: it's going to happen this week. James Washington gets today,
Speaker 1: but we'll see because they still have until three pm
Speaker 1: Central time today if they want to do another move.
Speaker 1: So just because James is up right now as nine
Speaker 1: thirty doesn't mean toront won't be yelped at two fifty nine.
Speaker 1: But if it doesn't happen this week, then next week
Speaker 1: makes it that much more likely, aren't you guys to
Speaker 1: put on your coach McCarthy has Okay, Tyron's right, Big
Speaker 1: T Smith. He comes back, Okay, he opens up his window,
Speaker 1: he comes back to practice first full predate live live practice. Okay, yep.
Speaker 1: Who do you put against him for the first live rep?
Speaker 1: Him out attack McKinlay, huh, I like that, Micah Dlaurrance,
Speaker 1: Sam Man, it's not Micah, No, it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: de Lawdrance. Who are you putting as the first rep?
Speaker 1: If you want to, you want to, you want to
Speaker 1: know where he's at right first day back, I want
Speaker 1: to let's see what he got. Maybe d Law, Maybe
Speaker 1: just because I know de Law is a veteran and
Speaker 1: he knows how to control. Is his body easy? No?
Speaker 1: I want him to hurtles though, take in a good way. No,
Speaker 1: But he can lock him up quick saying that because
Speaker 1: he's said he knows, he knows how to control his body,
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna hurt Tyrann Smith. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So d Law is not gonna get tangled up on
Speaker 1: accident because he's going up against the veteran Beamer. He's
Speaker 1: been up against the four billion times. You sai, I
Speaker 1: got Sam William Beamer got Sam Williams. You got d Law.
Speaker 1: You got I'm going with Dorance. I think Dorance has
Speaker 1: a similar mode of the Sam with the refinement of
Speaker 1: d Law. So I think he's a good mix between
Speaker 1: the two. Yeah, he's probably an in between. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want twin. You want those arms again? I want by
Speaker 1: I want violence, violence. You want to reason that, you
Speaker 1: want to test them out? Give me violence, violence, Give
Speaker 1: me the biggest, the biggest colon hole that you have
Speaker 1: lent that needs to be a T shirt. The thing
Speaker 1: about okay, you know what the more than I'm thinking about,
Speaker 1: you're thinking here if you want to get here's here's
Speaker 1: the thing when when Tyron Smith went down in the preseason,
Speaker 1: when he went down in training, came freak accident. It
Speaker 1: was a freak accident. It was something that nobody everybody anticipated,
Speaker 1: but nobody intimidated at the same time, like that exactly.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was a normal thing. Plus, what's
Speaker 1: been the biggest problem with Tyron Smith? It's not as play. No,
Speaker 1: it's his health. It's his it's his health that's the problem.
Speaker 1: But never this body part. I don't think you really
Speaker 1: want to test it, but maybe you do. Come on
Speaker 1: like morality wise. Morality wise, no, come on, co want
Speaker 1: to put him in hard. You need to test it,
Speaker 1: but not push correct. That's kind of where I'm That's
Speaker 1: so that's as a head coach, to test it in practice.
Speaker 1: Everybody's watching how you respond to this. Who are you
Speaker 1: putting against Tyrn Smith? Tyrn, if you're watching Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you're putting got a chair with asking this question. We
Speaker 1: got Dorance d Law, Sam and tech In The fact
Speaker 1: that you got four guys that you would put out
Speaker 1: there is crazy, but I like it all. We're all
Speaker 1: thinking differently. I want the mad Man. Get well, if
Speaker 1: you want the mad Man, then you'd put Michael out there.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mikea is a man man. I think
Speaker 1: he's I'm saying like not in that regard. I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about violets. Yeah, I'm not talking about just peered.
Speaker 1: Mica doesn't know the difference between uniforms. If he's on,
Speaker 1: if you're on the other side of the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: he's gonna flat Yeah, animal, so sad I feel however,
Speaker 1: you did it all right. We're taking our first break
Speaker 1: when we come back. Oh yeah, you gotta find this.
Speaker 1: You gotta find it. When we come back. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a look at the secondary. How can the Colts
Speaker 1: hurt the Dallas Secondary and have Anthony Brown's struggles from
Speaker 1: a couple of years back returned these last few weeks.
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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's Now, we've been asking fans throughout the
Speaker 1: week to send you your nickname I guess nominations. Is
Speaker 1: that what it would be? Nickname nominations for this Dallas defense?
Speaker 1: How many have you guys received? At over two hundred?
Speaker 1: Probably legitimately, I've I've got I mean, I've put out
Speaker 1: a tweet, got a lot of homework to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not up there with two hundred. It's probably because
Speaker 1: your dms are closed. Patrick, nobody could send you a DM.
Speaker 1: Buddy's probably why? Yeah that way? What was that beer? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got a text or excuse me, a d M
Speaker 1: from a lady this morning. She gave me her name
Speaker 1: four Patrick and says, what y'all let Pat know that
Speaker 1: his dms are disabled, trying to call him out on
Speaker 1: the door. Sliding the back door hit the producer buttons
Speaker 1: trying to slide at the DMS to hit the wood door,
Speaker 1: banging broken angles. Uh, he's not getting any of these
Speaker 1: great names that people are trying to send them. I
Speaker 1: sent out a tweet the other day to him. It
Speaker 1: has two hundred and forty five reply. Oh yeah, people are.
Speaker 1: People are having fun with it, sending them to keep
Speaker 1: sending them. If I haven't replied malts here, she's probably
Speaker 1: listening mail. I've got a bunch of one cowboys lay exactly.
Speaker 1: I haven't read them all yet. I promise I will
Speaker 1: get to them, because there's like a bunch of them
Speaker 1: that are unread. I will get there. Uh, and we
Speaker 1: will have some fun on Friday. Send it to me
Speaker 1: as a raven. Send it the user, the sound, the
Speaker 1: sound effects you're getting there. They're trying to they're trying
Speaker 1: the sound effect, but they're just not cutting it for
Speaker 1: like two seconds. But it was on point. You can
Speaker 1: clip that. You can put it on the look. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that raven call. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that what that was that he's trying to the the
Speaker 1: mean green eagle. Oh no, no, do they have a
Speaker 1: sound They just have an Yeah, they do call like
Speaker 1: a call like an eagle call. C aw call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. I don't have the voice to do
Speaker 1: it right now. I can't do it. You're protecting the
Speaker 1: voice box for this weekend. Yeah, I've got a big
Speaker 1: week here. Brother, We're gonna turn up. If this was
Speaker 1: that clears up, we're about to turn up. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I hope it clears up. I'm nervous. Cowboys, y'all sends
Speaker 1: him up for your boys, because I promise you, if
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Speaker 1: on Sunday for the pregame live show, I'm doing a
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Speaker 1: has a sign by the way to film. No, I can't.
Speaker 1: I got you, got you back like Turpen no hands yep,
Speaker 1: straight up. I don't have that in my inventory. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a look at the Dallas defense going up
Speaker 1: against the Colts offense. It is a Wednesday, so we're
Speaker 1: previewing the defense. This Colts offense has some weapons. Who
Speaker 1: does Michael Pittman Junior on the outside former USC wide receiver. Uh,
Speaker 1: you have guys. At least Chilanni Woods had his best game.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor of course he's still a great player. But
Speaker 1: what about Matt Ryan. Can he test you through the
Speaker 1: air still when you look at him on film? Is
Speaker 1: he still somebody that's a threat for somebody to maybe
Speaker 1: potentially challenge the Dallas defense. I don't believe. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So. I think he locks in on
Speaker 1: his receivers. He doesn't really work through his progressions anymore
Speaker 1: like he used to. I don't think that he has
Speaker 1: the time. He has his offensive line actually on the
Speaker 1: stat line on paper pretty good, it's pretty dog gone good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's not getting the time that I think he wants,
Speaker 1: and he's locking in on one receiver in going there
Speaker 1: forcing it doesn't matter if that person is open or not.
Speaker 1: It's causing him to have some turnovers and some inconsistencies
Speaker 1: on the offens side of the ball. And I think
Speaker 1: with Dallas's pass rush that we just talked about for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and those guys are gonna cause havoc for
Speaker 1: him and really cause some issues. He's older, he doesn't
Speaker 1: like getting hit anymore. He can't handle getting hit anymore.
Speaker 1: So he's just like, hit this ball out of my hands.
Speaker 1: Whatever happens, happens. Yeah, I'm going to go with a
Speaker 1: hard no as well. When you look at a game,
Speaker 1: and obviously the league is a week to week league,
Speaker 1: but when you look at the game they played, it'll
Speaker 1: be six days from when they played the Cowboys Monday
Speaker 1: night against the Steelers. Ye, I don't think they had
Speaker 1: any passing yards in the first quarter from not mistaken.
Speaker 1: I think it was zero passing yards through five total
Speaker 1: attempts through the first half. Was it was abysmal and
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan eleven touchdowns to ten interceptions when your top
Speaker 1: three receivers have a combined touchdown tally of six between
Speaker 1: three of them, right, So his age is catching up
Speaker 1: with him because whatever mobility he had, he was never
Speaker 1: a supermobile quarterback, but he had a little a little
Speaker 1: bit of a scapability in his prime in Atlanta. That's gone.
Speaker 1: The offensive line hasn't been poor, but the time he
Speaker 1: needs to be able to allow the play to develop
Speaker 1: with receivers that aren't stretching the field is what's leading
Speaker 1: to his sax. So a lot of that is coverage
Speaker 1: sex as well. And guess what the Cowboys do well.
Speaker 1: They covered well and they sacked well. Coverage sax. I
Speaker 1: think Ryan is in for a very long day. Now.
Speaker 1: There is a part of me that is traumatized by
Speaker 1: Christian Watson. UM, So you just never know. Michael Pittman
Speaker 1: he has some he has some legs on him. Paris
Speaker 1: Campbell can go up and attack the ball. So you know,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on those guys and make sure that
Speaker 1: they don't, for whatever reason, have an explosive day. But
Speaker 1: if you can even remotely just do your job against
Speaker 1: those guys, UM, from a past defense aspect of it,
Speaker 1: you're you're going to feast on Matt Ryan. The real
Speaker 1: question is is Jonathan Taylor? That's the question. He is
Speaker 1: lethal with a capital lee. M. Yeah, he's dangerous. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, he's. I mean, he's It's very much like
Speaker 1: what you just face in the sense that if you
Speaker 1: can shut down say Quon, if you can shut down
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, if you can shut down these guys, then
Speaker 1: you're probably in a good position. Um. But even more so,
Speaker 1: this team, this team is less dangerous than those that
Speaker 1: we've faced as of recent weeks. Um just as dangerous
Speaker 1: as a running back. It's Jonathan Taylor more dangerous. He's
Speaker 1: he's just dangerous. I mean, we face some of the
Speaker 1: league's best Let's keep it one hundred right in terms
Speaker 1: of running backs talent wise, we face some of the
Speaker 1: best backs in the league. And when there's a couple more,
Speaker 1: they have to come across the table. Yep, we have
Speaker 1: to face going forward the rest of the season. But
Speaker 1: regardless of their talent level, if they can't execute their
Speaker 1: game plan, that talent can't be utilized. So if Dallas
Speaker 1: can come out and shut down and put all their
Speaker 1: attention on Taylor, right, they That's the thing about this defense.
Speaker 1: They're allowed to focus on one aspect of the game
Speaker 1: because the other aspect they're so much more dominant in versus. Okay,
Speaker 1: these teams are so equally yoked all across the board,
Speaker 1: we can't really dial in on one thing. We have
Speaker 1: to be able to stop this, and we got to
Speaker 1: stop this. This isn't that, This isn't this isn't a Miami,
Speaker 1: this isn't a sam frand this isn't any of those teams,
Speaker 1: you know, the Kancity Chiefs, that are just equally yoked
Speaker 1: across the field, and you have to respect and regard everybody.
Speaker 1: This is literally like, hey focus on shutting down Taylor.
Speaker 1: You shut down Taylor, Mattie Ice has to drop back,
Speaker 1: and we know what we do. It's you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's that's literally all the defense has
Speaker 1: to focus on because they can't hurt you in the
Speaker 1: air because of their front seven. The Coats have no victories.
Speaker 1: When Jonathan Taylor rushes for less than ninety yards this season,
Speaker 1: that tells you what needs to happen. So if you
Speaker 1: had to make the team one dimensional, goly, I can't
Speaker 1: even speak one dimensional, it would it would take away
Speaker 1: the run, make them one dimensional through the air, right,
Speaker 1: and then would throw the football from the Coats. That's
Speaker 1: absolutely what you want. Have you shown defensively that you
Speaker 1: can do that? Yes? Yes, you showed in Minnesota you
Speaker 1: have Minnesota. Okay, yea. And Minnesota was more dangerous in
Speaker 1: the air than Indianapolis. I agree with that, right. I
Speaker 1: would say that the running backs are equally yoked. If
Speaker 1: I had to put those guys side by side, Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook and Jonathan Taylor, I would say those guys are
Speaker 1: both talent wise about the same level skill set. But
Speaker 1: if you shut down that aspect. If you shut down
Speaker 1: that aspect and Minnesota didn't didn't hurt you when Jefferson
Speaker 1: and Hawkinson, then this team definitely doesn't stand a chance
Speaker 1: in the recause we're literally focusing on one receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your Pittman in Paris Campbell. Those are the two exactly.
Speaker 1: And Jelanni Woods kind of had a coming out party
Speaker 1: last night, no disrespect to the others. That was basically
Speaker 1: out of you're really concerned about shutting down, you know,
Speaker 1: Pittman because that's where that's where Matt Ryan wants to
Speaker 1: go with the ball. So does that put more pressure
Speaker 1: on a secondary? In a secondary that hasn't necessarily played
Speaker 1: particularly well the last couple of weeks. Um, if I
Speaker 1: was Al Harris and Um and mister Edwards, I would
Speaker 1: say go up there and get your hands on these
Speaker 1: guys at the line of scrimmage. And I'm taking Minnesota
Speaker 1: out of the last couple of weeks. In that conversation,
Speaker 1: by the way, quarterback in Matt Ryan, who doesn't want
Speaker 1: to go through his reads, and yeah, go get in
Speaker 1: their hip pocket because our front seven is going to
Speaker 1: get home. And when they get home, Matt Ryan's going
Speaker 1: to give you an opportunity. Right His stats show it.
Speaker 1: His film shows it. He's gonna throw it up, He's
Speaker 1: gonna lock in on one guy. He's throwing it there,
Speaker 1: whether he's guarded or not, so he'll fumble it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that too, But why why give them the space to
Speaker 1: beat you on a route? Why get them to space?
Speaker 1: Why give them the time to even get their route
Speaker 1: started up? There you get your hands on him by
Speaker 1: the time that he even remotely gets five yards down
Speaker 1: the field. We should be in the backfield or the
Speaker 1: ball should be an air. Looking at the film, one
Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me this past week is
Speaker 1: how far off the ball Anthony Brown plays significantly. Trayvon
Speaker 1: does it too from time to time, But Trayvon has
Speaker 1: the reaction and the closing ability to get there. Does
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown have that? Because it looked like there were
Speaker 1: a couple of times where the Giants picked up on
Speaker 1: it at the line of scrimmage, had a quick little
Speaker 1: check with me, looked over to the side, and then
Speaker 1: threw the football that direction. It was a big reason
Speaker 1: why there were some completions, especially in the second half.
Speaker 1: But why is he playing so far off the ball
Speaker 1: and is there a benefit in doing so? I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's doing it. I mean there's times where
Speaker 1: you know, based upon the weapons, based upon the scheme
Speaker 1: up front, right the rushes, the coverage underneath, you know,
Speaker 1: Al Harris, and the defense is asking you to play
Speaker 1: a particular technique. Sure, so I don't I'm not heavy
Speaker 1: as to why they may be doing that, but I
Speaker 1: know that that changes from week to week, even when
Speaker 1: you turn on the Colts film even though we're not
Speaker 1: talking about their defense their series where they'll literally go
Speaker 1: man man coverage press for one series, they'll go man
Speaker 1: man off for one series, and then they'll go cover
Speaker 1: two for a series, and it's like the theme of
Speaker 1: the series. So sometimes Defense is just change it up. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that's what they were doing
Speaker 1: in that particular instance, but obviously that wasn't to Hayeb's favor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder, and we had this conversation offline. I wonder
Speaker 1: if Anthony Brown is maybe dealing with something physically because
Speaker 1: normally one of the fastest guys on the roster is
Speaker 1: I don't want to say struggling, but he's not consistently
Speaker 1: able to stay glued to the hip of the receiver
Speaker 1: on these goal routes. Um so, And this is complete speculation.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to draw a circle around in
Speaker 1: any particular area, but I just wondering there's something that's
Speaker 1: kind of taking half a step away from him at
Speaker 1: this point in the seat. People need to understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, this is all speculation, but people need
Speaker 1: to understand that if you're playing in a game, it
Speaker 1: does it does not mean that you're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: right now, you know. I think I think some people,
Speaker 1: I think I truly believe that some people believe that
Speaker 1: if guys are on the field playing that you should
Speaker 1: be in one hundred percent. That's that's not the case people,
Speaker 1: right And if if it is in fact a situation
Speaker 1: where Anthony Brown is not one hundred percent and maybe
Speaker 1: there's a soft tissue issue kind of nagging him stealing,
Speaker 1: then you're going to You're George Edwards, You're Al Harris,
Speaker 1: you're Dan Quinn. You're going to say, back him up
Speaker 1: a little bit, back him up because he needs that
Speaker 1: space to recover if they're going to go on a
Speaker 1: goal route. Otherwise, you play them up front, you press
Speaker 1: them and you might win that battle. But if you
Speaker 1: lose and they get that release, and this might be
Speaker 1: a guy who's not one hundred percent. That's toast. That's toast.
Speaker 1: That might be the case. It could be, like you said,
Speaker 1: complete speculation. We haven't heard anything, but teams went away
Speaker 1: from Anthony Brown. The first four games of the season,
Speaker 1: he was targeted at least nine times and he gave
Speaker 1: up at least six receptions in each of those games.
Speaker 1: First five games of the year, he was at least
Speaker 1: targeted nine times to give up four against LA in
Speaker 1: Week five, But after that the largest total that he's
Speaker 1: been targeted was seven, and that was in the most
Speaker 1: recent game against the Giants. There was four three four
Speaker 1: three five in the middle of the season because he
Speaker 1: was playing hands on, he was right on top of people.
Speaker 1: He was shutting guys down. Having a really good season
Speaker 1: kind of what we saw last year from Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to go back to the first
Speaker 1: five weeks of the season when we were questioning whether
Speaker 1: or not he should even be a starter, because he
Speaker 1: shut that up. He had seventeen pass breakups last year,
Speaker 1: so quiet as it's kept, along with his three interceptions,
Speaker 1: but quiet as it's kept. He's been a strong performer
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, especially opposite Treyvon Diggs. He was a
Speaker 1: key reason why teams would not throw away from Treyvon
Speaker 1: Diggs last year, but because they didn't want to throw
Speaker 1: it at ab But this year looks like he's you know,
Speaker 1: obviously he batted the concussion, but he didn't miss any
Speaker 1: games due to that. But he's been on the injury
Speaker 1: report more than once. And I just wonder, to Isaiah point,
Speaker 1: at this point of the year, as we crossed into December,
Speaker 1: who's playing healthy, Who's one hundred percent? You know, you're
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find somebody who's one hundred percent not
Speaker 1: playing through something. And I just wonder if looking at
Speaker 1: the film, because of the spacing that they're they're scheming
Speaker 1: him up forward. They weren't doing that in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if there's something nagging him a little
Speaker 1: bit that he's playing through. But then you would I
Speaker 1: know that the robotal for that would be, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's let him heal up, let him rest. Okay. Well,
Speaker 1: when Kelvin Joseph was in, he didn't acquit itself himself.
Speaker 1: Well at opposite Trevon Diggs, Nashan right, we got a
Speaker 1: lot of love for n Sean right, but doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like he's ready to step in that role just yet,
Speaker 1: which is why the Cowboys aren't putting him in that role.
Speaker 1: Duran Bland, He's play, He's the jaylu role. He's in
Speaker 1: the Jay Lou role right now. If Jordan Lewis was
Speaker 1: present and healthy, then Bland would be an option to
Speaker 1: allow a b to heal. But as as insane as
Speaker 1: the depth is for the Cowboys defensive line in their
Speaker 1: safety unit and some of these other positions, linebacker, the
Speaker 1: cornerback room doesn't benefit from that amount of depth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talent wise, so I wish it did. That would definitely
Speaker 1: be another surplus of talent, But yeah, you can't have
Speaker 1: everything right. Yes, even as nasty as this defense is,
Speaker 1: five PBUs by the way for Anthony Brown last year
Speaker 1: yet seventeen, So keep that in mind as we are
Speaker 1: heading into week thirteen when we come back, who has
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Speaker 1: you know, players and all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: you know, I spend a little time to Seattle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn is a product of a dude name
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, and Gus Bradley just happens to be the
Speaker 1: defens a coordinator for the Indianapolis Coats. So you have
Speaker 1: this since a going against Hmmm, very interesting, very interested
Speaker 1: to see how this is from my hand. Now, Bradley
Speaker 1: doesn't have nearly the weapons. He has some dogs over there.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it tomorrow, but they're a little banged
Speaker 1: up there, bang up scheme wise. Anybody understands what DQ does?
Speaker 1: Is that guy? Is that guy? Yeah, we'll preview the
Speaker 1: Colts defense tomorrow against the Cowboys offense. So it should
Speaker 1: be fun Patrick who has more pressure on them on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football to slow down the
Speaker 1: scary Jonathan Taylor? What what unit? Or it could be
Speaker 1: a specific player either one. It's it's going to be
Speaker 1: the linebackers. Mmmm l the wolf hunter, you know what?
Speaker 1: Tabon Clark, Yes to both of those, but I put
Speaker 1: more of the onus on LV Okay from both a
Speaker 1: veteran capacity and how he schemed up if LV is
Speaker 1: playing how he played against Sae Kwon Barkley and helping,
Speaker 1: you know, fill those gaps and be disciplined and you know,
Speaker 1: and helping to set the edge that makes it that
Speaker 1: much easier for the rookie and Damon Clark to be
Speaker 1: able to do the same and do a little bit
Speaker 1: of patrolling back there in the event that Taylor, who
Speaker 1: does have speed, gets out on the edge and does
Speaker 1: burn it. So I'm looking at those two guys, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at LV and Damon, and yes, that is a
Speaker 1: lot to ask of a rookie who didn't have training
Speaker 1: campbell preseason. But you know what, number one, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Demon number two. He's going to have continue
Speaker 1: to have his rookie hiccups, but he's also shown flashes
Speaker 1: of ability. So I would love to see him meet
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor end in one of those gaps and introduce himself.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go more so, let's say fifty one
Speaker 1: forty nine l V to Demon. But for me nine
Speaker 1: that's not by a lot. It's not by a lot
Speaker 1: because because of when the Moon is being tasked to play,
Speaker 1: he's being tasked it is in a pure fifty one
Speaker 1: point or no, we're not not not specific number one
Speaker 1: point four forty whole numbers stick with the into us um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're going to linebackers. Okay, I'm going to the
Speaker 1: one in three techniques. I need Galla more, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying more, And I need Hankins. I need
Speaker 1: those two big fellaws to clog up the middle. If
Speaker 1: you can force these guys to the outside, I'm fully
Speaker 1: confident that Dallas is outside coverage. D End's outside linebackers
Speaker 1: have learned their lesson and they have more than enough
Speaker 1: speed to run to the edges. The inside needs to
Speaker 1: be sure that. I would much rather a team try
Speaker 1: to test us on the outside than on the inside.
Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor does a heck of a job of
Speaker 1: coming forward. Yeah, he's north to south. He's north to
Speaker 1: south guy. So in terms of where we need to
Speaker 1: be sure at until one of these yeah, until he's not.
Speaker 1: But those one of three techniques have to be on points.
Speaker 1: So Nevill Gallamore and Big Hankins and the rest of
Speaker 1: the crew qball, I need those guys to lock it down,
Speaker 1: to consume those inner three offensive linement. Just take away
Speaker 1: the center and guards, just just literally take that element
Speaker 1: out of it and put the game on the tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I would go with the interior as well.
Speaker 1: And I want to throw Osagizooa in there as well,
Speaker 1: because I think I think I think Osa has gotten
Speaker 1: better as the year's gone along in terms of stopping
Speaker 1: the run. His best game by far against the run
Speaker 1: was against Sequon Barkley and the Giants. The way that
Speaker 1: he's able to take up multiple blockers, the way he's
Speaker 1: able to to shoot a gap and at least take
Speaker 1: it up because early in the season he was getting
Speaker 1: turned around. There were offensive guards and centers were having
Speaker 1: their field day because they were just turning them around.
Speaker 1: He's getting skin. He's done. Yeah, that's that's okay. That's
Speaker 1: a great way to put it. Great term, because that's
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's staying firm and he's staying square,
Speaker 1: and it's clogging up running lanes and it's allowing for
Speaker 1: those linebackers to run free behind him. As it relates to,
Speaker 1: um know, the context of how deep the Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: line is in comparison to where Osa could potentially be.
Speaker 1: He's all things consider, he's having kind of a breakout year.
Speaker 1: It's like a mini breakout year because he's really getting
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