1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: The Cardinals fall twenty six to nine to the Rams 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon to stay put at the bottom of the 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: division with a one in five record. Welcome into Morning 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Scramble presented Ye Risen from the Seakeek Studios alongside Jody 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Sirek. It was the 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: second straight week of a slow start from a Cardinals 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: team that was playing completely opposite from the in the 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: first half of the last month. Cardinals couldn't get their 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: footing on either side of the ball. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Jody, Yeah, and you know, it's funny because I was 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 2: kind of fired up after the first half as far 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: as the Cardinals defense confusing Matt Stafford. Yeah, they limited 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: them on the ground, but they didn't try to run 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: the ball, So you know, I just I liked what 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: they were doing there. But the problem is when you 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: don't score a touchdown, and you know that Josh Dobbs 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: had the chance to hit Hollywood Brown for two of them, 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: but he was off the mark. You know, then you 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: go into halftime, you're up nine to six, but you 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: had all those opportunities, you know, all those chances to 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: score touchdown instead of field goals, and I was worried 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: it would bite them, and it did bite them, Zach 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: and you know, you just you know, and then the 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: defense failed when they did go at them with the 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: run game. 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Those four point swings are game changers no matter how 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: because regardless of what happens on the scoreboard, just the momentum, 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: the energy. When you know you get to the red zone, 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: you expect to get six and then that pat you 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: don't hope for three. Matt Prater was very consistent. We'll 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: talk about him in a little bit, but it was 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: a slow start, but was also a slow finished. They 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: were not able to get anything going throughout the entire game, 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: the last touchdown the Cardinals have had third quarter of 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: the Bengals game last week. So definitely got to get 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: a little bit more going when you go play the 37 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: Seahawks later on this week. 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Let's call this Cardinals offensive performance what it was, a 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: terrible performance Sunday against the Rams. Again, no chemistry, no connection, 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: it seems like no rhythm. Quarterback Josh Dobbs overthrowing passes, 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: throwing his players out of bounds. Three trips to the 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: red zone for the Cardinals, zero touchdowns, all field goes Zach. 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Why the drop off in production? 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first thing I actually have here on my 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: notes not enough chemistry. This looked like the type of 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: performance that you would have expected to have in that 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: first game against Washington. A quarterback coming in a week 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: a week with practice is only about six of those 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: and then that's the type of performance you would have 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: expected to see. Why the drop off, I'm not sure 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: if it's just because of Ernest Jones on the defensive 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: side of the ball, ten tackles for him. He had 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: a great performance out there, but it just did not 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: seem like Josh Dobbs was able to throw passes on 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: the money. Two wide open touchdowns that he did not 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: hit on the money to Hollywood Brown. The interception which 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: we'll also talk about a little bit later was not 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: to Zach Ertz, was not on target, it was thrown 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: behind him. 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: There were a lot of passes like that. 61 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: So I think it starts and it ends with Josh 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: Dobbs because as a quarterback, you're the one that's manning 63 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: that ship and he was not able to really gather 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: it together. 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Eleven targets for both Hollywood Brown and Rondel Moore, four 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: receptions for both of them and Jody it's been confusing 67 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: the game because you have weeks where you've got rookie 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson having these great performances and then for the 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: following two weeks he's Mia on the field. 70 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Zach, to your point, you're right, 71 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: it just felt like the chemistry wasn't there. And you know, 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: in fairness, though, if Josh Dobbs hits on a couple 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: of those, maybe is entirely it's an entirely different game. 74 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: You know. 75 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: What's interesting is Matt Stafford really only went to Cooper Cup, 76 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: you know, the one guy, and then on the other 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: side for the Cardinals, Josh Dobbs hit eight different targets. 78 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: But like you said, the percentage was not good to Brown, 79 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: it was not good to Ron del Moore. Trey McBride 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: actually was the leading pass catcher four catches for sixty 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: two yards. Michael Wilson had three catches for sixty two yards, 82 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: so he. 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: Kind of was trying to spread the ball around. 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: But again, when you cannot hit on those big plays, 85 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: and that's what's a game of details, right, because you know, 86 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: you just you connect on a few of those you. 87 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: Mentioned Ernest Jones. 88 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: He had fifteen tackles last week against the Eagles, was 89 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: kind of banged up, really didn't pract this all week, 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: had another big game. 91 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 5: We know what Aaron Donald can do. 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: You know, again, I wouldn't we always use the term 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: kind of don't let him wreck the game. I certainly 94 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't say he wrecked the game, but he had his moments, 95 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: and you know, in general, he elevates his other D linemen. 96 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: Right. 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: We saw Young, the rookie Byron Young, have a pretty 98 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: good game as well. It was definitely a tough task 99 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: for that offensive line, and so we saw that again 100 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: it does fall on Josh Dobbs. 101 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 5: He is the quarterback. 102 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: But when you have a bunch of D linemen and 103 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: the linebacker and some different schemes that we saw Raheem 104 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Morris kind of changed through the game, it can be 105 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: tough for the quarterback. And I think the biggest thing is, 106 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: again we go back to basics sometimes on the show, 107 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: when you get the lead, all of a sudden, we 108 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: saw the tables turn, you know, and then they can 109 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: tee off on Josh Dobbs. They can put some different 110 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: things schemes on that offensive line. To make it harder, 111 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: and they did. 112 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: One of the more impressive aspects we saw from Dobbs 113 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: in the first month was ball security smart as you're making. 114 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: The last two weeks, it's been a different story again 115 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals coming back on Josh Dobbs this past 116 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: week two costly turnovers an interception which was thrown behind 117 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: tight end zach Ertz and that fumble, both of which 118 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: led to points on the board for the Rams. It 119 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: seemed like Dobbs was trying to force those connections because 120 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the offense wasn't clicking. 121 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: And that's the thing that I think Jody pointed out. 122 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: With the Rams, they have Cooper Cup and the Cardinals 123 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: limited Pukinnakula and Tutu out well. They really did were 124 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: not able to get much going. Knowing that the Cardinals 125 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: have so many weapons, you shouldn't have to force so 126 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: many different passes into spots that are not. 127 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: Supposed to be there. 128 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: There were also multiple passes that could have been turnovers, 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: multiple times where players for the Rams dropped the interception 130 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: or it was thrown right in front of them just 131 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: hitting the turf. So there were so many moments there 132 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: and I think the balance that James Connor brings to 133 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: the running game that was definitely missing in this one. 134 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: We're going to talk a. 135 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: Little bit about that running back by committee, but I 136 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: know that he adds such an element to the offense 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: that keeps it. Defense grounded a little bit were because 138 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: they have to be on their toes. 139 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: This in this case was just not if for. 140 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs forcing in pockets that were not ever supposed 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: to be intended for. 142 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: James Connor was placed on ir with a knee injury. 143 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Sunday was the first of a minimum four games Connor 144 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: has to miss. Entering the game against the Rams, the 145 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals were averaging one hundred and forty rushing yards per game, 146 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: not that much of a drop off Sunday's performance one 147 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty. It was a different type of performance though, 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: a running back by committee, something the Cardinals weren't having 149 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to do when you have James Connor at the helm. 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: It was Kante Ingram making his return after missing two 151 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: weeks with a neck injury, and we saw Damian Williams 152 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: who was recently acquired that was his first performance. We 153 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: didn't see much of a Mari de Mercado However, those 154 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: were the three running backs the Cardinals were relying on. 155 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: There was a difference though, even though the numbers are 156 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: the same right one thirty compared to the average run forty, 157 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: you didn't see the production near the end zone the 158 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: way you have with James Connor. Again, no touchdowns, and 159 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: when I talked to Kanta Ingram after the game, he 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: took some of that blame and said, I under stand 161 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: the task at hand. I do be better when I 162 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: have the ball in my hands and crossing that plane. 163 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Damian Williams, I thought looked pretty good. 164 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: There were some good moments in the run game. Again, 165 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs though the leading rusher with a couple of 166 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: runs on third and ten or more third down. Josh 167 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Dobbs was your most effective rusher there. But yeah, I 168 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: really like the fact that this offense under Drew Petsing 169 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: is able to run the ball. I know it didn't 170 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: show up on the score on the score sheet here 171 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: yesterday because of the fact that they couldn't score touchdowns, 172 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: but that does take some pressure. Continues to take a 173 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: little bit of pressure off of Josh Dobbs, and you 174 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 2: want to stay balanced and I think that will bode 175 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: well for them in the future. But as we all 176 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: talk about going into this game, the loss of James 177 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: Connor was huge. You really can't replicate what he brings 178 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: his ability to and again, these other running backs were 179 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: running hard, the effort was there, but there's a reason 180 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 2: why James Connor is the starter and a guy that's 181 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, been all Pro and so it's gonna hurt 182 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: to lose him. Hopefully this will evolve over the next 183 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: few weeks because he is going to be gone for 184 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: a few weeks. 185 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Number six is one of those players that an opposing 186 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: defense has to circle because, especially with Kyler Murray's absence, 187 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: James Connor is kind of stood up as that player 188 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: on the offensive side. He is that guy when it 189 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: comes to making a play, and he adds that emotional, 190 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: that energizing bunny element to the game that the Cardinals 191 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: really did not have on offense that they were truly missing. 192 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: He's one of their emotional leaders on the offensive side 193 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: of the ball. You've already been missing your emotional leader 194 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball in Buddha Baker. 195 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: So to take a hit by losing James Connor for 196 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: at least the next three games. Definitely does hurt. I 197 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: was just very confused by the lack of production. Mario 198 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: de Mercado had I felt having the hot hand against 199 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals going into this one, I knew Keyante 200 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: was going to kind of be that RB one in 201 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: place of James Connor, but I did not go into 202 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: it with the expectation that Damian Williams was going to 203 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: go become RB two and get more touches than a 204 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: Mario de Murcatto did. I mean, Jody, He was your 205 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: player of the game last week, and to go into 206 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: this one and basically be invisible was kind of surprising. 207 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: That's probably going to be an area this coaching staff 208 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: will look at moving forward with this committee, is when 209 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: you're game planning, do you need to change the way 210 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you are using those running backs, the amount of snaps 211 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and the situations you're using those players in. The Cardinals 212 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: were consistent and trying to run the ball. The rams 213 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: not so much the first half LA with just five 214 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: rushing yards. However, they turned it around in the second 215 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: half with one hundred and seventy four on the ground. 216 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: That is a consistent week after week if you are 217 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: playing Arizona, it seems like the halftime adjustment to make 218 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: is to run the ball, because the Rams would end 219 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: up in the second half alone with two touchdowns, two 220 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: force turnovers, and one hundred and seventy four rushing yards. 221 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: It's the same story week after week. 222 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: Jody Well, and it's interesting because for me, you know, look, 223 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: we all know the Rams don't run the ball much, 224 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: and especially not when they're down. The percentage goes way down. 225 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: I think it was kind of like a sixty sixty five, 226 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: thirty five anyway, and then when they're down and gained, 227 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: the analytics tell you. 228 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: It's something like twelve percent or something like that. 229 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: So for them to go into the locker room at 230 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: halftime and completely flip the script. 231 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: And they talked about it after the game. 232 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: They couple of old Lignemens said, we, you know, we 233 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: didn't make adjustments. We wanted to make a statement, which 234 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: is a nice way of saying like, of course, it's 235 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: you made adjustments, right. But I went into the game 236 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: and actually mentioned the fact that I thought they would 237 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: run the ball with Kyen Williams, because even though the 238 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals have been pretty good against the run of. 239 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: Me, why would you not. 240 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: It just makes life easier if you can run the 241 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: ball right, It's it's easier on your quarterback, it's it's 242 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: less of a chance of turning the ball over. There's 243 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: just a lot of reasons why you might come out 244 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: of the chuot trying to run the ball, trying to 245 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: test that defensive line and linebackers. 246 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 5: And they didn't. They didn't, and it. 247 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Worked out really well for the Cardinals because you know, 248 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: they were really keep They had kept the Rams out 249 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: of the end zone for the entire first half, and 250 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: then the second half came and you know, so again 251 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: I had said it on the pregame radio with Kyle 252 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: Van and Bosh. I mentioned Karen Williams and then felt 253 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: kind of stupid the entire verse half, like, Joe, do 254 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're talking about? You know, 255 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: everyone else was so right. This is Sean McVay. He 256 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: just wants to throw it. He wants to hit all 257 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: his weapons. And now when I turned it around and 258 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: then I thought, well, you know, it is football. You 259 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: know you're gonna try to use everyone on the field. 260 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't working for them. So it was a product 261 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: of the Cardinals doing all the kind of crazy stunting 262 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: at the line right, which I love. 263 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 5: Nick ralis trying to mix it up again. 264 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: I know there's no victory in winning a half, but 265 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: there is a little bit of moral victory, and like, hey, 266 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: we were trying to confuse it kind of worked out. 267 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: So unfortunately though, that fired. You know, you can imagine 268 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: what they were like going in there when they get 269 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: basically shut down in the passing game. They were hitting 270 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup in the first half. I think he had 271 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and one yards receiving, but Matthew Stafford had 272 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: one thirty four overall, so it was really all Cooper Cup. 273 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: Couldn't get anything else going, and so you know, I'm 274 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: sure they were pretty upset and that was kind of 275 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: the easy switch. Was like, hey, let's just try to 276 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: run it. And it worked, and it worked. I was 277 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: surprised at how well it worked because this defensive line, 278 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: I know they're banged up again and I know they've 279 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: been thinned since the beginning with some of those injuries 280 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: that happened early in the season, but you know, they've 281 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: played pretty stout against the run. It's almost like it 282 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: was a little bit of an ambush they were back 283 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: on their heels and it just worked. So credit the 284 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: credit the Rams coaches. 285 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: For that ninety eight thirty that's the second half total 286 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: for throughout these six weeks, ninety eight points the opposing 287 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: offense has been able to put together that the defense 288 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: has given up, and only thirty that the Cardinals have 289 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: able to have been put on the board. It's an 290 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: ugly number, and that in and of itself is one 291 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: of those numbers that that's an eyesore that's going to 292 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: stand out to a Nick Rollis and John Again in 293 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: a coaching staff that truly prides themselves off of defensive production. 294 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: To give up ninety eight points in a total of 295 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: like two three games like that, that's an incredible amount. 296 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: And this team really has to figure it out because 297 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: we know opposing teams are going into the locker room 298 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: at halftime saying what. 299 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Adjustment do we need to make? 300 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: The Cardinals need to start going into it with what 301 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: adjustments do we need to be prepared for because it 302 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: seems like they've come into the second half slow on 303 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: defense and they've been able to give up all these 304 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: explosive plays that this coaching staff harps on week on 305 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 3: weekend and week out, and that's why Cooper Cup was 306 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: able to go off in the way that he did. 307 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: And because of what Cooper Cup's able to bring to 308 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 3: the table, that's what allows the Hiro and Williams to 309 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: come in and have the type of second half performance 310 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: he did. 311 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: Danny opening drive for the Rams in the second half 312 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: nine straight run plays would end that drive with a 313 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Cooper Cup, who was Matthew Stafford's go 314 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: to player. One hundred and forty eight receiving yards and 315 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown for Cup and just his second game back 316 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: from coming off ir with the hamstring injury. Was interesting 317 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: because entering Sunday's game, the Rams had that dynamic duo. 318 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: It was the rookie Pooka Nakua who was stepping up 319 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: in Cup's absence. Naku had entered Sunday's game with almost 320 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: six hundred receiving yards, second most in the league, almost 321 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a non factor. There was no need to. If you're 322 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: throwing a Cooper Cup and it's working against this Cardinal secondary, 323 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: why would you change them? 324 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Remember he dropped a touchdown in the first half. It 325 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: wasn't it kind of looked like seeing the replay, it's 326 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: clear he could have had it, but he was kind 327 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: of kind of had to not dive, but it was. 328 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 5: It was perfectly placed, really, but he could have. 329 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: Had a touchdown and he didn't. And then yeah, I 330 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: just think I just think Cooper Cup took over the game. 331 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just one of those things where they 332 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: have two very talented guys there and Puka being a 333 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: late round draft pick. I don't know that anyone really 334 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: expected it, but boy, how timely was it for them 335 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: with Cup being out and again they had the hard 336 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: schedule coming in, so you looked at them at two 337 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: and three, and you. 338 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: Know that they had played the Eagles the week before. 339 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: I'velieved the Niners as well prior, so they had some 340 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: tough defenses to go up against. But it's just there there. 341 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: They couldn't be denied obviously, Uh, the first half. Again, 342 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: you're right, Zach that the numbers in the second half, 343 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: something's got to change. And there were some questions about it, 344 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: you know, people asking is it the conditioning? 345 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: Is it? 346 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that it is that. I think it's 347 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: again and this is one of those intangible things. So 348 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: hear me out, you guys might say, Jody again, you're 349 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: you're wrong, But I think when you have a lot 350 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: of players that haven't had a lot of NFL experience 351 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: in second halfs, in fourth quarters, in some crucial situations 352 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: on third down, on offense and defense, it's just hard. 353 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: It's just harder, you know. 354 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you're like Matthew Stafford, Josh Stopps, Cooper Cup, 355 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson. You know, again, it's you. It's a learning 356 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: process in the NFL and young players. While they might 357 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: have great moments, and we've seen some. That's why we 358 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: were excited and we still are excited about what this 359 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: team might be able to do, but when it comes 360 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: to crunch time, I think that's the difference. 361 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: It's just the experience level. 362 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: You're without some of those star players in those crunch 363 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: time moments. On offense, Kyler Murray still on POP rehabbing 364 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: that ACL James Connor who is now on IR And 365 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: on defense, your two starting safeties Buddha Baker Jalen Thompson 366 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: both dealing with hamstring injuries. The bright spot in Sunday's 367 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: twenty six to nine loss for Arizona was special teams. 368 00:15:59,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: Yet again, ka. 369 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Matt Prader reliable as ever, three for three on field 370 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: goals and also that pump return very impressive by the 371 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: special Team's unit. Two players who were elevated for Sunday's 372 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: game safety is Joey Blunt and Bobby Price, so we 373 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of this season. It was Blunt 374 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: who had that force fumble on the pump return and 375 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Price with the recovery which led to points on the board. 376 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: Albeit a field goal for the Cardinals, still impressive from 377 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: this special Team's unit. 378 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: Zact. 379 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And I think for Matt Prader specifically, this 380 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: was the Matt Prader game, just game, those three field 381 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: goals in he was he was the cardinals only point production. 382 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: He also jumps up to eighteenth in all. 383 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: Time points in the NFL's career list, which is absolutely 384 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: incredible with over seventeen hundred. 385 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: So see, the player of the game. Is that what 386 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: we're saying here? 387 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: I think he might collectively the player congratulations. 388 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 389 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: And a fifty five yarder which again kind of automatic 390 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: for Matt Brader. 391 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: Player of the game all morning scraml And that's Matt 392 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: Prader's seventy fourth I believe career all time kick field 393 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: goal made with it's fifty yards or more, which is 394 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: an absolutely ridiculous total right there. But I think on 395 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: special teams we mentioned Joey Blunt, and I have to 396 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: give him some kudos because he allowed one play to happen. 397 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: The first punt return, he went back five yards behind 398 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: the returner I guess, assuming he was gonna make that 399 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: fair catch, and they were able to break loose for 400 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: either a nineteen or twenty nine yard run out of that, 401 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: and you saw Jeff Rodgers on the sideline really get into. 402 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: Him as he should have. 403 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 3: What is he doing exactly as any good coach will 404 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: do going after their player to say, hey, that's not acceptable, 405 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: that that's not the standard behind it, because everyone just 406 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: goes into it, assuming all right, it's easy enough to 407 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: just raise the hand up and it's. 408 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: A fair catch. 409 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: But for him to go in for that next punt 410 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: and force that fumble, really crackle the guy and force 411 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: him to fumble it and Bobby Price to come in 412 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: and recover it, come out of the out of the 413 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: pile with his helmet off and screaming as we see 414 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: in the picture. I mean, he was really into it. 415 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: So got to give some kudos over there to the 416 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: special team. 417 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: Wench that ball out. It was a great performance. 418 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 4: He took him down. Raymus from the w W was 419 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: in the house. 420 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: Wobby Price, yeah, announcing his you know, presence there. I 421 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: think a lot of fans are probably Bobby Price. When 422 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: did he get here? 423 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 5: You know? 424 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: But that's what this team needs, contributions from everyone, and 425 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: especially on special teams. We know what a great job 426 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: that Jeff Rogers does week in and week out, year 427 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: after year, and so trying to give the team a spark. 428 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: And again that's the turnover where he talked about building 429 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: momentum get a field goal. Well it's great, but that 430 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 2: was another situation where if you get a turnover like that, 431 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: you want to build momentum by scoring a touchdown. 432 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Plenty of opportunities, Arizona not fully able to take advantage 433 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: of Zach. When you were watching the game, at what 434 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: point did you realize this might be difficult to come 435 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: back on? What was your turning point? 436 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: I think the turning point and this so and I 437 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: think all of us kind of throw our heads back 438 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: was in that fourth quarter. Josh Dobbs first played the 439 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, throws that interception behind Zach Ertz that I 440 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: alluded to earlier. You go into it, you go into 441 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: the clockhead zero, and you want to prepare the perfect 442 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: play that you possibly could have. 443 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: You're already in the red zone. 444 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: You want you haven't been able to put up that 445 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: four point swing we talked about and get that touchdown 446 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: and said the field goals. 447 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: You haven't been able to do that. And Josh Dobbs 448 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: has been. 449 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: It was so solid the first few games when it 450 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: came to possession of the ball, not turning the ball over, 451 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: and in the past two weeks, which we discussed earlier, 452 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: has really hurt the team as a whole. So that 453 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: my opinion, that turning point was that interception, because I 454 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: think also zach Ertz was in risk of losing is 455 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty two consecutive catch streak, and that 456 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: was that one play where you're like, okay, he could 457 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: possibly start getting Earth a little bit more involved. You 458 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: never want to start getting your star tight end in 459 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. You never want to start getting involved 460 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: that late into the game. But that passed behind him 461 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: when he turned the ball over. That was the turning 462 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 3: point in my opinion. 463 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's interesting was you talked about the break 464 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: between third and fourth, and so you have time to 465 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: gather yourself, you have time to kind of reset. And 466 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: the play before that was I believe a twenty two 467 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: two yard gained to Hollywood and. 468 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 5: Hollywood would you love to see that? 469 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: Because you're like, not only was it on the money, 470 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 2: Hollywood had gotten open. 471 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: You're like, Okay, here we go. 472 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: Is Josh Dobbs going to be able to kind of 473 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: slice and dice through this defense a little bit? And 474 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: then for that next play to be an interception, like 475 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: you said, thrown behind zach Ertz And again. 476 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: Those two just can't seem to get on the same page. Again. 477 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it's as simple as you know, Josh Doobbs just 478 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 2: needs to make a better throw there. But it's a 479 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: connection that we kind of thought we would have to 480 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: rely on because Zach is one of the few veterans 481 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: in this group Hollywood brown as well. But I mean, 482 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, you look at a lot of new pieces 483 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: on this offense and it's a little bit disappointing. It 484 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: certainly was disappointing in that moment, and I agree with you, 485 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: it absolutely was the turning point. 486 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz with twenty two yards on two receptions in 487 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Sunday's loss. That following drive after the interception was the fumble, 488 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: in which again the Rams would go on to score. 489 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: So two consecutive weeks with costly turnovers. Something that's a 490 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: little new for Josh Doabbs. Something that this offense not 491 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: just jobs, this offense is a whole is going to 492 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: have to get back on and being smart with the 493 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: ball and having that good just being smart with it 494 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and having ball security and not turning the ball over. 495 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take out the whiteboards for songbirds. 496 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: We were going to bring out the whiteboards today. Come ball. 497 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: Think of a song that embodies the way you are feeling, 498 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: either whether it was during watching the game today on 499 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: this Monday morning. 500 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 5: I had a lot of not very good feelings after 501 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 5: this game. 502 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: To be honest, Jody, your first you can go ahead 503 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: and started. 504 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go with like my first thought with 505 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: the red zone being so tough. Unfortunately, the red zone, 506 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: which should be a place of happiness right, a place 507 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: where you make things happen, Unfortunately it was a danger 508 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: zone yesterday. 509 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 5: Oh for three plus. I just like danger Zone. It's 510 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: a good song. So yeah, top gun. 511 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: Right, and I should have like thought this out right, 512 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: is it Kenny Loggins, I'm okay, just checking last week? 513 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: I didn't know Kate Bush and that was. 514 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: There, you go, what do you got? 515 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: So I went. 516 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: So I was feeling very confused this morning about how 517 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 3: I felt about it. So I turned to Chad Burns, 518 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: who gave up who gave up the title for Songbirds? 519 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, Chad, how should I feel today? 520 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: And he said, well, you know what, let's go a 521 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: little bit Hollywood with it. 522 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: So we went Still Dre and that's in parentheses by 523 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg. 524 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: And I think the reasoning for it. 525 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: Is because there's still, like, while we are very frustrated 526 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: with this result, and we've been frustrated week after week 527 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: with the second half collapse, really there's still so much 528 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: hope that comes with it. These guys are fighting in 529 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: this facility and there's no doubt about it. They're not 530 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: giving up. They went into it hearing what all the 531 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: national media has had to say about it, and while 532 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: the results have storted to match up to what the 533 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: national media said about this Cardinals team, I think there's 534 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: still earning a lot of respect across the league because 535 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: you have Josh Dobbs that did have to jump into 536 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: a situation and while his play is not been where 537 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: we wanted to be, he's jumped into a situation where 538 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 3: he's kind of assumed that leadership role. There's still a 539 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: lot of hope. There's still a bright future ahead of 540 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: this team. Regardless of the wins in lost column. This 541 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: team is really kind of bonding together with it. We 542 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: spoke with Josh Woods earlier on in the week last 543 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: week when he said it was that flower analogy that 544 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: Nick Rolis gave. 545 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: It's the roots where it all matters. It's not the pretty. 546 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: Part of the flower, but it's the roots that ultimately 547 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: blossom into what we wanted to become. As you see there, 548 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: six tackles, one tackle for loss for Josh Woods. 549 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: He had a really solid game jumping in. He was 550 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: very energized as well. 551 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 3: But it's the foundation that comes about that I think 552 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: still is pretty hopeful for the Cardinals. 553 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: Like that, you're going to our team illustrator in Chad Burns. 554 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: It's a team effort here on warning. Chad normally has 555 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: something to say about my drawing, so we'll see what 556 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: he has to say about today. I went with Manic Monday, 557 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: which is actually by the Bengals, And when I looked 558 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: that up this morning, I learned that the song was 559 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: actually written by Prince, and so I drew a little 560 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Crown in the corner because that makes a lot more 561 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: sense than trying to draw something for either a Monday 562 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: or the Bengals for the band. So we went with 563 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: a little Crown because the song was apparently written by Prince. 564 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I went with Manic Monday because that's just what it 565 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: feels like. I have to be honest. I understand talking 566 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: about the moral victories and that this team is putting 567 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: together great first halves. That's not going to win you games. 568 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: You have to start stringing together an entire game, four 569 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: full quarters of good football, something Gannon even talked about 570 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: postgame Sunday, that this team is not doing. That's why 571 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: it's the Manic Monday. I'm not feeling too optimistic at 572 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: the moment, and just you need to really look at 573 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: where you are right now, not just looking ahead. Even 574 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: though that is a line in the song of I 575 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Wish it were Sunday, and I'm not talking about this 576 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: past Sunday. Maybe this Sunday ahead. When you get a 577 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: new chance to turn things around against the Seahawks. I 578 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: just there's frustration because you can see the potential with 579 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: this team, and not just potential. You've seen how well 580 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: this team has played under certain circumstances. But you're not 581 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: getting a full game out of them, and that's something 582 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: that this coaching staff needs to figure out why that's 583 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: the case and to change that. 584 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: There. 585 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: I think they're you know, they just need some pieces, right, 586 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: They need some pieces at key positions. They have the 587 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: tough injury situation when you don't have Buddha, Baker and 588 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson. Again, I go back to that win They're 589 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one where the Cardinals just put on 590 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: a clinic and they really harassed the receivers especially. I 591 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: remember specifically a hit from Jalen Thompson on Cooper Cup 592 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: in that game that I felt changed the entire game 593 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: because and Cooper Cup is not a guy that has 594 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: a lot of fear. Okay, this is a guy that 595 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: is not afraid to go. 596 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 5: Over the middle. 597 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: But it changes the game and when you don't have 598 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: guys like Thompson and Baker out there and hopefully Buddha's 599 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: coming back, soon. We'll get updates on that throughout the 600 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: week that these guys will keep you updated on. But 601 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, it's it is tough, but there's hope because 602 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: and the other interesting thing is when you're one in 603 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: five and you're getting out scored in the fourth quarter, 604 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: you know, but how do you why do we feel 605 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: this way about the coaching? And I think it's because 606 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: you see them trying everything that they can to, you know, 607 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: win the game, and we're seeing a lot of it 608 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: show up in the first half and the fact that 609 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: that's working for me is a positive. I understand it's 610 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: fading as the game goes on for the reasons I 611 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: outlined before. Lack of experience, sometimes attritions, sometimes injuries, and 612 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: they need to learn to finish. But you know, yeah, 613 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: I think we're all feeling by the way, it's a 614 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: great song Manic Monday, I. 615 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 5: Remember it, does it? Suzanna Hoffs? Yeah? 616 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: You know, so we're in our feelings a little today, 617 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: and that's okay. 618 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: It's all right. We got to stay up beat. We 619 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: gotta stay positive. 620 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: The beauty about the National Football League. We got a 621 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: chance to do it all again next. 622 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Week, absolutely, and there's a chance that you get your 623 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: safeties back. Jalen Thompson was not placed on IR. Sunday 624 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: was the first game he's missed without injury. That's a 625 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: good sign. Not placing Thompson on IR. There's a chance 626 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: he's able to come back this week. Buddha Baker has 627 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: now missed four games on IR five total. However, he's 628 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: now missed the minimum with his hamstring injury. There's a 629 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: chance he's able to come back. That's a little hope optimism. 630 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: When the Cardinals travel for their second straight Divisional road 631 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: game this upcoming week, it's against the three and two 632 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. As Jody mentioned, we will have coverage all 633 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: week long leading up to that matchup from players and 634 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: coaches and looking ahead. Stay locked in on Azycardinals dot com. 635 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us here on Morning Scrambled 636 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: for Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Sarah. We'll 637 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: catch all right here next week. Monday morning, ten am