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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, Welcome into another episode of overtime here

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Speaker 1: on the Colts Audio Network. I'm jj S Tankovic, joined

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Speaker 1: by Casey Valier. We reserve these podcasts for breaking news,

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Speaker 1: and today the Colts had some pretty big breaking news. Casey,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson will undergo season ending shoulder surgery. That is

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Speaker 1: from Colts owner and CEO Jim Rsey, posted on Twitter

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Speaker 1: or whatever it's called nowadays. Shane Steiken addressed it in

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Speaker 1: his press conference on Wednesday. We heard from several Colts

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Speaker 1: players about Anthony, so a lot to get into. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give you some sound from what Shane Stiken had

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Speaker 1: to say, what from players like Durogiltree, Jonathan Taylor, Zire

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Speaker 1: Franklin all had to say in the locker room. But Casey,

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Speaker 1: first of all, just your initial reaction to why the

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Speaker 1: Colts and Anthony Richardson decided surgery was the proper course

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Speaker 1: of action for the ac joint injury in his right

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Speaker 1: throwing shoulder.

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Speaker 2: So I've had kind of two sides of this because

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Speaker 2: the initial is man Now, I know for the remainder

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Speaker 2: of the year we will not see that electricity that

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Speaker 2: Anthony brought to the field. Because I mean, there were

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Speaker 2: so many times I remember just standing like standing there

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Speaker 2: at Lucas Hill, not even in my chair, turning around

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Speaker 2: and looking at people that I, you know, I work with,

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Speaker 2: just going this guy is electric because there that was

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Speaker 2: so much of what he did was just on the field,

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Speaker 2: just electric. And then I look at what the path

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Speaker 2: we've chosen to go, and I think, you know what,

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Speaker 2: you take a guy forooth overall, and you know, heading

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Speaker 2: into this year, there's still gonna be bump bumps in

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Speaker 2: the road on his growth and all of that, so

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Speaker 2: you knew it was going to be, you know, a

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Speaker 2: more long term view. So when I look at this,

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Speaker 2: I say, Okay, you know what, do whatever you have

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Speaker 2: to do to get this guy completely healthy, because you

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Speaker 2: don't want him going back out there rushing through things

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Speaker 2: and maybe tweaking it or it hampering anything else. You

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Speaker 2: know what, for everybody, we all want to see him

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Speaker 2: out there, Jim, I'm sure he is first on the

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Speaker 2: list that wants to see him out there, But you

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Speaker 2: also have to take it from that wider lens to say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we got to get this guy right.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like, you know, by by all accord

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Speaker 2: you know, you have the surgery and you head into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and he should be full go, ready

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Speaker 2: to go, you know, when you know, whenever that day is,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's you know, I know Shane doesn'

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Speaker 2: want to put a timetable on it, but if all else,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're looking at it going twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: should be completely ready to go for.

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Speaker 1: Ar Yeah, Shane Steiken said on Wednesday. You know, as

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Speaker 1: the Colts and Richardson were talking through this with several doctors,

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Speaker 1: this was an extensive evaluation. Yeah, you know, which I

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Speaker 1: think is is pretty common when you're trying to decide

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Speaker 1: if you need surgery that you don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: until you gather as much information as possible. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is this is Anthony Richardson's body

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Speaker 1: who is going to undergo surgery. So ultimately he has

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Speaker 1: kind of the final say on it, and he decided,

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Speaker 1: along with the Colts and along with the several medical

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Speaker 1: professionals that they consulted, that surgery was the right move.

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Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right about the long term view, you know,

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken said, Richardson's longevity needs to quote, be at

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Speaker 1: a premium with this that you're not just thinking about

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Speaker 1: how fast can we get this guy back on the field.

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Speaker 1: You got to think about this is the guy we

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Speaker 1: drafted forth overall to be here for the next ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen years, you know, so, Shane Stikeen said on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: quote going through that process and talking to all the doctors,

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Speaker 1: getting as much information as we could, this is the

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Speaker 1: best thing for him and the franchise moving forward, so

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Speaker 1: we can get him healthy for next season. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of where things lie here for what's next for Anthony,

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Speaker 1: though He's going to be around, yes, And I think

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Speaker 1: Casey that was something that kind of stood out to

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Speaker 1: me that sometimes you know, players they sustain these injuries

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Speaker 1: You know, they kind of fade into the background. They're

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Speaker 1: not They almost don't feel like they're part of the team.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, you know, what he needs is to be

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Speaker 1: here and to be in these meetings and to gain

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna see going forward, is that your

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Speaker 1: Anthony's going to still have a pretty good presence around

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, he's still a

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Speaker 2: twenty one year old guy. Who is you know, he's

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Speaker 2: learning the NFL game every single day. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 2: learning something new. So part of it, he mentioned the

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Speaker 2: kind of a different way to view the way the

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Speaker 2: what he would do and so you know you hear

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Speaker 2: that term the mental reps and all of that. I

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Speaker 2: and like Shane said in his presser, you know, attack

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Speaker 2: this like you're playing right now, like you're the starter.

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Speaker 2: Go in with everything with your mental mindset that you

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Speaker 2: are going to be the guy, even though we know

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Speaker 2: on Sundays you're not going to be out there. So

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Speaker 2: I love that he's going to be around. I'm not

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Speaker 2: shocked that he's going to be around. And this is

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Speaker 2: a guy, like we've talked about, you take him forth

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Speaker 2: overall this is you know, right now, you're looking at

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Speaker 2: this guy to be your your answer at that position.

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Speaker 2: So you want him to be around the guys around

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Speaker 2: the playbook all of that. So I'm not at all

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Speaker 2: shocked that he's going to be here, but I think

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Speaker 2: there is a chance you can kind of learn something

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Speaker 2: about who Anthony Richardson is from this, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of instance that he's dealing with too in this way.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's what Shane Stiken had to say

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Speaker 1: about the expectations he has for Anthony Richardson in the

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Speaker 1: coming months. Take a listen, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what, this will be a great learning experience for him,

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Speaker 4: you know, moving forward. You know he'll be engaged, he'll

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Speaker 4: be in the meetings, he'll be at practice, and he'll

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Speaker 4: learn this year, you know, sitting back and watching and learning,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the long run, I think with anything.

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Speaker 4: I said this a couple of weeks ago. You know,

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Speaker 4: when you go through tough times, you know it'll make

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Speaker 4: you stronger. And this is a tough time for any player.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're obviously your rookie year. You want to

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Speaker 4: be out there with his teammates.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I know he's you know, crushed about it too, so

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Speaker 4: but I think it'll help him make him stronger in

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Speaker 1: All right. So that was Shane Stiken talking about Anthony,

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Speaker 1: and I caught up with Sam Elnger in the locker

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Speaker 1: It's just how intelligent he is, and I think that

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Speaker 1: You know, the notes that he took were still really

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Speaker 1: to Gardner Minshew, Shane Steichen or Cam Turner, Jim Bob

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Speaker 1: Kuden be like, hey on this read, you know what

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Speaker 1: that same mindset. And everything we've heard from his teammates

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Speaker 2: And the thing that is great about the locker room

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Speaker 3: Everybody's you know, everybody's path is going to be different.

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Speaker 2: That you you know, kind of take on this challenge

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Speaker 2: that that Anthony is dealing with is going to be different.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of guys he can lean on.

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Speaker 2: And I love that you mentioned, you know, the taking

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Speaker 3: That's one thing that was talked about.

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Speaker 2: You know, from the time he got here that they're like, WHOA,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this guy was going to be asking this,

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Speaker 2: And I mean it was like every night him and

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Speaker 2: all these things. So that part of him, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's going to be ramped up even higher right now,

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Speaker 2: which is great. I mean, you want to see him

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, one of those guys who dealt with

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to catch up with in the

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Speaker 1: Colts locker room. Here's a couple of bites that Drew

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Speaker 1: to say about Anthony Richardson. You're he're someone who's kind

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Speaker 1: of come out on the other side of an injury,

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Speaker 1: you know, missing a season, Like what about Anthony tells

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Speaker 5: As mind said, and his work ethic, because you know,

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Speaker 5: you see him day in and day. He's staying in

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Speaker 5: He's always doing extra things on the field, and his

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Speaker 1: You kind of have to have that drive when you're

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Speaker 1: you're on ir, you're rehabbing, no one's kind of holding

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, most definitely, because the expectation when you come

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Speaker 1: Casey, I think the thing that Drew hit on the

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Speaker 1: last thing that he said there is the expectation when

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, the expectation is not going to be Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you've been out for a couple of months, like, let's

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Speaker 1: it's going to be you're the starting quarterback again. Get

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Speaker 1: in there and show that you can apply some of

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Speaker 1: these lessons. The one thing that really stood out to me,

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Speaker 1: and I talked a little bit about this with Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Gorman on the Official Cults Podcast on Tuesday, is that Anthony,

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Speaker 1: even though he only played in four games, like, he

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Speaker 1: impressed me with his quarterbacking a billity, yes, his ability

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Speaker 1: that were you know, like his eyes were going in

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Speaker 1: the same place as Shane Steichen's. You know, you have that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the one interception against Jacksonville. But for the

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Speaker 1: most part, ball security was not a problem with Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: He avoided sacks really well. He did some stuff that

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Speaker 4: But just his big playability throwing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Casey. And something else that Chane Stikeen said is

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to just the injury itself.

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Speaker 1: I almost kind of feel like today, Casey, the clarity

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Speaker 6: You know, I feel like, you know, just as you

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Speaker 3: I think when you look at you.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: The whole seasons ahead of this team. Today's stinks, but

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Speaker 1: That's what the focus here on the Colts Audio Network

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Speaker 1: is going to reside starting on Thursday with the Official

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Speaker 1: Colts Podcast that'll be previewing the Colts and Browns. Casey,

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Speaker 1: You will be joined by Matt Taylor, Bill Brooks and

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Speaker 1: guy to come on talk about some talk about some

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Speaker 2: Z I could listen to Zaire talk about anything. You know,

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Speaker 1: To for It's also super funny that Zire Franklin is

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Speaker 1: like one of the best linebackers, if not the best

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Speaker 3: Me for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, dude, like, save some talent for the

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Speaker 1: rest of us. Like he's got to he guys, he's

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Speaker 1: Come on, We're like just some people are just more

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Speaker 1: Colts podcast on Thursday. Inside Football with Rick Van Tury

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Speaker 1: go check that out with Rick's Keys to beating his

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Speaker 1: Reaction will be back myself and Bill Brooks. We will

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Speaker 1: Soil Stadium on Sunday. Anyways, Casey, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for cutting up all this audio so our listeners

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Speaker 1: could get a chance to hear from head coach Shane

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Speaker 1: Steichen and some players today, of course, and we will

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Speaker 1: be back if we need to do another overtime at

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Speaker 1: some point. We don't plan these. They happen as news breaks.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for listening to this one here on

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Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 3: So long