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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number forty.

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Speaker 1: Toy in the show, we're discussing what to do with

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Speaker 1: your time in these months just after deer season ends,

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Speaker 1: and spoiler alert, there's a lot to do. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. And you know

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Speaker 1: it's January nineteenth, I think today, and so we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, what some people call the postseason lull, that

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Speaker 1: time period after most people's hunting seasons are done. And um, we're,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the farthest point away from the next

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Speaker 1: season that will ever be at. So for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, it's kind of a lull. But what me

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Speaker 1: and Dan want to talk about today is the fact

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Speaker 1: that really it shouldn't be a lull. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that we can be doing to prepare

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Speaker 1: for the next season, the two thousand fifteen season in

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Speaker 1: this case. So that's what we're gonna talk about. But

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Speaker 1: before we do that, Dan, how are you over there?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Um, let me just say one thing though, Mark, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have done forty episodes of Wired Hunt and that crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's nuts. I feel like we just started it. It's

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Speaker 1: it's gone really fast. Like when we started, it was

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Speaker 1: just this idea that has been incubating for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I think I I think I sent

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Speaker 1: you an email or text or something was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've got this podcast idea. I think you'd be a

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Speaker 1: good person to do it with. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's all kind of came from that. Now we're media moguls.

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Speaker 1: I won't go that far, but we're something I guess,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of idiots on the on

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Speaker 1: the air. Maybe maybe that's where accurate would right. I

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Speaker 1: agree with the later. Yeah. Also, by the way, you

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Speaker 1: sound really good. You sound different than usual, Dan. What happened? Well, Um,

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Speaker 1: through some brainstorming and a couple of comments on I

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Speaker 1: believe it was the iTunes account saying hey, Dallas sounds

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Speaker 1: like us in the bathroom. Well, finally we put our

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Speaker 1: two brains together to make one and we figure out

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Speaker 1: that I'm not even recording using the microphone that I

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Speaker 1: have on my desk. So episode is the very first

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Speaker 1: time I've ever recorded using this microphone, so and this

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Speaker 1: just it cracks me up because I just see you

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Speaker 1: with your face on this microphone for thirty nine hours

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Speaker 1: and that once has it actually been working? Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: I feel like a dumbassy you know, live and learn, living,

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Speaker 1: and look at that. With one click of a button,

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Speaker 1: we've totally changed what people think about the podcast, because

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Speaker 1: now you don't sound like you're sitting on the toilet

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Speaker 1: the whole time exactly. That would be hilarious if it

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Speaker 1: actually changed my voice and I sounded like this. Here's

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Speaker 1: the issue. What if people don't like what you really

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Speaker 1: sound like now they give up on the podcast. Is

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Speaker 1: so annoyed. We'll have to see if there's any new

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Speaker 1: feedback that comes in. Go back to the old boy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh that's awesome. But I'm glad we got that figured out,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, you sound much clearer, and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: mom my mom always said I had a beautiful voice.

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Speaker 1: What did you say the voice of a school child? Was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the voice of a schoolboy. I don't know if I can,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I go that far, but let's

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Speaker 1: start talking about dear. Yeah, yeah, I know, we probably should.

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Speaker 1: I um, man, I don't know like you. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's the podcast forty episodes now, and you know, when

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Speaker 1: we started, it was all talking about the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and fourteen season and everything we were doing leading up

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Speaker 1: to the two thousand and fourteen season. And now that's done.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a whole new year and we're kind of

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Speaker 1: it'll be pretty cool this year. Is that you know,

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Speaker 1: last year, we didn't get to start our conversations and

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Speaker 1: can really talk about an entire year, an entire season,

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Speaker 1: And I think you're you're just like me and that, um,

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Speaker 1: hunting season that the state puts forward. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: That it's really a whole year um of work and

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is an interesting time of year.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people on a fade away

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Speaker 1: out of our conversation here today, Dan, that you know,

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Speaker 1: more people will remember that, hey, there's some there's some

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Speaker 1: plenty of stuff to do, you know, and and out

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Speaker 1: chances for the next season. Yeah, yep, so true. And

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Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I want to talk about here today.

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Speaker 1: I really wanna you know, dive into some of the

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Speaker 1: different things that you're doing, some things I'm doing, UM,

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Speaker 1: talk through some high level you know, tips for each

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Speaker 1: why we're doing it and how we're doing it, um,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully put you know, a couple of new ideas

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Speaker 1: big deer, whatever it is you're trying to do, isn't

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Speaker 1: put you in that position to have success. And that

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Speaker 1: work starts now. UM. So we all, we all love

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Speaker 1: I really can't you know, agree with you more when

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Speaker 1: you say that. Yeah, that's the truth. So how about

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Speaker 1: roll awesome. So I think, you know, for me, one

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Speaker 1: the two things that I really look for UM would

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Speaker 1: do a little bit of scout at both time periods UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're scouting at this time of year.

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Speaker 1: it will apply to your September deer hunting, because those

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Speaker 1: leaves down in the snow on the ground. But again

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Speaker 1: late seasons. So keep all that in mind. But um,

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Speaker 1: UM would be you know where the dope betting years

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at new gear, what you want to buy,

428
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: you know what you can afford. Um, lots of good

429
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: stuff out there, lots of stuff that's worth the money,

430
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: but there's lots of stuff that maybe you don't absolutely

431
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: have to have. So put it. I'll put it to

432
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: you this way. I'm sorry to interrupt, but if you

433
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: have a hundred dollars at the end of the season

434
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: or at the beginning of the season, and you're debating

435
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: on what piece of equipment to buy, that hundred dollars

436
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: would be better spent on your wife or girlfriend before

437
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: the season started than it would on any other piece

438
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: of equipment that you had, so that would allow you

439
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: more hunting time through Brownie points. That's probably the truth.

440
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: So so yeah, just something to think about. I mean,

441
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go out there and buy some new gear, um,

442
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: because there's lots of cool stuff out there, but you

443
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: know it's not gonna make or break your season in

444
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of cases. So nonetheless, it's good to check

445
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: your current gear that you have to write. Um, I

446
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: have made the mistakes sometimes where the season ends and

447
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: like I'm just done, Like it's a freezing cold, it's

448
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: new year's eve, freezing cold, tons of snow. I get

449
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: him from the hunt, I throw my stuff in the

450
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: barn and I don't touch it for like weeks or

451
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: a month or whatever it is. UM, And then I'm

452
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: halfway guilty of that right now. Actually, there's a bunch

453
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: of stuff that I just have sitting in my barn

454
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: still I haven't touched since I got done hunting with it. UM.

455
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: But sometimes you can really get screwed because of that. UM.

456
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: I have a perfect example of the time I did.

457
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: This was just stupid. It's just plain stupid. I was

458
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: out there with my muzzloader on the last day of

459
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: the season and I shot a couple of dos. This

460
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: was like three years ago or two years ago, and

461
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: I came in. I was dealing with the doze, and

462
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't even think about the fact that

463
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: I had left my muzzleloader in the barn with all

464
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: my other gear, and I didn't think about cleaning it

465
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: for like like two months or longer. I can't remember

466
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: what it was. Was a very long time. I completely

467
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: forgot about it, and by the time I finally remembered,

468
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: it was completely corroded, rusted out. I couldn't get the

469
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: breech plug out. Um. In the end, I had to

470
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: trash it because it was so far gone and comletely

471
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: completely almost rotted. So that was, you know, a very

472
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: expensive mistake, um that I made there. So I've I've

473
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: learned that lesson, but hopefully I'm sure a few other

474
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: people have probably made the same mistake too. But it's

475
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: just important to check those things. Clean your guns, you know,

476
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: check your bow, you know, put all your gear back

477
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: where it belongs, put things back in place, and deal

478
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: with it. Now. It is hard to do sometimes, right

479
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: because we're just tired, um, But it's a lot easier

480
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: to deal with gear is shoes now rather than you know, September,

481
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: You're about to head out for the first day of

482
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: this hunt and U you realize, oh crap, I you know,

483
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: totally forgot to do X with my bow or whatever

484
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: it might be. So now that's a good time to

485
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: deal with it. Clean it. You know, it's season's over.

486
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: You don't need to worry about scent. I mean on

487
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: some of my tree stands. I'll take it to the

488
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: car wash, proment all in the back of my truck

489
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: and just blast them. And even you, even you soap

490
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: on them and clean them up and then hang them

491
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: up for the for the year. I mean, I don't

492
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: care what kind of coating they have on it. If

493
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: it sits in dirt and crud all year round, it's

494
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: not good for it. Yeah, that's a good point. Also

495
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: to the point of tree stands, It's like you said,

496
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: it's a really good time to check the straps on

497
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: your trees and tree stands. In a lot of case,

498
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: you should just take your tree stands down so that

499
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: those straps don't get worn out or possibly chewed by

500
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: squirrels or whatever might happen. Um. But I'm guilty of

501
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: it too. I've left a lot of tree stands hanging

502
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: for too long, um, and it's it'd be smart for

503
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: me to pull some of those down and just check them,

504
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: because you don't want to climb up there October one

505
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: and step onto the platform and have it crashed down. Yep.

506
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: So the nuts and bolts too, you know, some of

507
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: them have rusted and every year, um, somewhere in October

508
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: or hell even later in the year. Um, you'll see

509
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: pictures on Facebook or some kind of social media somebody

510
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: you know. Oh thank god, I had my safety harness on.

511
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: Then they take a picture of a bolt or a

512
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: cable that was rusted through and it meant on them

513
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: and they fell. So that's important. Yeah, you definitely gotta

514
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: check on that stuff, that's for sure. So we're scouting,

515
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: we're checking our gear, we're cleaning our gear, organizing our gear,

516
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: just taking care of it now so we don't need

517
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: to worry about it later. Um. Another thing that I

518
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on again. You mentioned it really briefly

519
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: when you're talking about what you're doing to scout, but

520
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: I really think the inventory check thing is a pretty

521
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: important thing this time of year. Um. You know, getting

522
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: your trail cameras out and if it's legal in your state,

523
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: putting some kind of a tract and out in front

524
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: of it. That gets you know, the deer in front

525
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: of your camera, so you can see, you know, who

526
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: made it through the season, who's gonna be back in

527
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: the next year. Um, because that you know, just from

528
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: understanding how your dear heart is gonna evolve, that's important.

529
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: And then just from a purely you know, fun standpoint,

530
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: it's nice to know who's gonna be around, um and see,

531
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I've had new deer move into the

532
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: area at the very end of the season. Um so

533
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: it's good to catch that now too. So I like

534
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: to put those trips, those types of cameras um on

535
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: a late season food source if I haven't um so

536
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, like right now, I've got

537
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: a great big um white tail institute winter greens food

538
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: plot with turnups and stuff like that. So the deer

539
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: hitting that really hard on one of my properties. So

540
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I've got a camera out in front of that, so

541
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: they're already coming there. And then I put an attract

542
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: in front of the camera to then take those deer

543
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: that are in the food plot and make sure they're

544
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: right in front of a trail camera. And I know

545
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: you do that with you know, bringing some corn into damn.

546
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's I mean, literally checking trail cameras

547
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: is I guess other than being in nature is my

548
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: is my favorite thing to do. I love checking trail

549
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: camera pictures. And you know, you ask your wife, you

550
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: ask my wife, you ask you know, tons of other

551
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: people's wives or husbands who are addicted like we are.

552
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: In the hours we spent just clicking through, clicking through, Hey,

553
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: is that that same about from last year. I don't know.

554
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: Let's just compare to this picture and you go in

555
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: your files and you you pull up a picture from

556
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: a year or two years ago, and you'll say, yeah,

557
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: that's him, that's him. Look you can tell because he's

558
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: got a little extra white on this side of his neck.

559
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, we're just idiots, that's the truth.

560
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: But I love it. Yeah, I love it. It's fun.

561
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for trail cameras, I don't I honestly

562
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: don't know if I would be as into hunting as

563
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I am. Well, definitely changed things. It totally changed things

564
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: for people because all of a sudden you went from

565
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, only knowing about the deer that you actually saw,

566
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: so now all of a sudden seeing the potential of

567
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: all these other deer that are around there that you

568
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, lots of times we never see these deer

569
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: in person. It's only on trail camera. And uh, it

570
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: really helps when you're able to start understanding these individual

571
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: deer too. So there's a there's a blog post I

572
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: wrote about this, I think last summer, called the seven

573
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Greatest Dangers of Trail Cameras UM and it's related to

574
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: this very topic. I'll post a link to in the

575
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: show notes. If you haven't seen that yet, take a look.

576
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: It's a it's an important read. Dan, have you seen

577
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: that one? I think I have. Yeah. Basically, it's don't

578
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: don't give it away, give it away, Okay, Yes that

579
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: is me and you, Yes it is. And I imagine

580
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners too. So traill cameras big

581
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: thing and another you know, a tie in here to

582
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: the next topic. Um. Another big reason why I like

583
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: to have traill cameras out this time of year is

584
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: because I'm also looking at these pictures to see when

585
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the bucks start dropping their antlers. Um. For me, the

586
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: timing of my shed hunting is really important. UM. And

587
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: that's something you know. I'll let's go into detail on

588
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: that another time. We'll probably have a full episode or

589
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: two all about shed hunting. But UM, knowing when the

590
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: antlers are dropping is going to help you time when

591
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: you start shed hunting. And that's a pretty important thing

592
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: I think. Um. And actually wrote a blog post about

593
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: that too that we post on Facebook today. UM, so

594
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I can link to that too. But keep the cameras

595
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: out check when those bucks are are dropping their antlers.

596
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: And that's really gonna help you, you know, once it

597
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: comes to shed hunting. Yeah, buddy, I love shout hunting,

598
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: but unlike you, I have to rely on specific weekends

599
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: because this year I have, uh, let's see a wedding.

600
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I have to go to the second weekend in March.

601
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: So my only really weekends that I'm gonna be able

602
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: to shed hunt this year are either the um the

603
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: weekend before or the weekend after. And it's one of

604
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: those things We're depending on how much snows on the ground.

605
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: You could just be fined and nothing but chewed antlers

606
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: or no antlers at all. So timing is very critical. Yeah, man,

607
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm having issues in my voice going through puberty over there.

608
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, it finally hit. Took a while, but finally

609
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: it can happen. What I was trying to say before

610
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I squeaked was, m heck, I don't even know what

611
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something about shin hunting. Um, timing

612
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: is everything. Timing is everything, especially when you hit puberty.

613
00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: That's important. Um, I don't know, But god, where are

614
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: we going? Yeah? Live in person? The real deal here?

615
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Shed hunting though, right, Um, that's something we will talk

616
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: about more and more, you know, in the next couple

617
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: of weeks. But for me at least, I'm really thinking

618
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: about shed hunting middle of February through the middle of March. Um.

619
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: It seems that time frame is really you know, when

620
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: most of the antlers are gonna be on the ground,

621
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: but also before you know there's too much granary on

622
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: the ground, or before too many antlers get chewed up

623
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: by squirrels and porcupines and different things like that. Um.

624
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: So that's a big thing to be doing this time

625
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: of year too, and we will cover that in a

626
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: lot more detail, hopefully, Dan here. Maybe sometime in mid February,

627
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: we'll do an episode all about shed hunting and maybe

628
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: get some experts on the show. I actually am trying

629
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: to line up someone who's gonna help talk to us

630
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: a little bit about training a dog to help you

631
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: find sheds, and um, some other people who have a

632
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of experience finding antlers in addition to you know,

633
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: what we've done. So that's for some interesting conversations, because man,

634
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun and a lot of good

635
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: things that can come from finding those antlers. To the

636
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: good thing about it is, you know, you have you

637
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: have that piece of history with the deer. You also

638
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: are out there getting some kind of exercise, breathing the

639
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: fresh air, scouting while you're doing that, and so it's

640
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: just the it's the perfect thing to do. I mean,

641
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: shed hunting is literally the best way to know your

642
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: property and find antlers, which are awesome too, And it's

643
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: just a nice it's a nice season to look forward to.

644
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: Like for me, my my, my years very season oriented.

645
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, you've got the deer hunting season to look

646
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: forward to, or you know, whatever hunting season it is

647
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: that you're looking forward to. Um. But then you know

648
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: this this February March time frame is kind of a

649
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: dead spot if it weren't for hunting, um for for

650
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: some people at least. So it's something I can get

651
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: excited about. And definitely my mind turns to sheds once,

652
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: uh usually once February shows up, I'm really thinking about

653
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: the bone and uh for me, it's a fun excuse

654
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: to get out and do a couple more trips. You know,

655
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a trip to Ohio and uh hopefully

656
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: another trip to Iowa. So you know, I think any

657
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: excuse to find more antlers off your property, dance that

658
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: you can't have the big ones. He's yeah, you know,

659
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I was bummed that you didn't

660
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: get to go and do any more late season hunting,

661
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: but I wasn't you know, I wasn't too sad about

662
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: the fact you didn't get a shot at mark Kenya

663
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: because I like that antler, I know, I know. Although

664
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I did bump him once this year. That was during

665
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: the during your rut week, right, it was probably somewhere

666
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: around the tenth or eleventh. He was with a dough

667
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: and I was going into a uh going into one

668
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: of the tree stands that I had set earlier in

669
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: the week, and sure enough I bumped him, bumped him out,

670
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: and then um, something happened. We're right at last light.

671
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: He was coming back in and he started blowing, so

672
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I think I had some some some swirls or something

673
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: going on, and I don't know, but then I didn't

674
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: see him again. He's a he's a smart old buck.

675
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: He takes after his namesake. That's right, that's right, at

676
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: least i'd like to think. So, um, you know, which

677
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: something we just talked about their planning ship hunting trips

678
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: ties into another thing. I like, do this time of year,

679
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: which is working on planning my actual hunting trips. Um.

680
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, for me, I do a lot of traveling

681
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: for my hunting since, uh, you know, my my home

682
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: propers here in Michigan are are okay, but I do

683
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: like to get out of state a good bit. So

684
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I think this time frame January February March is a

685
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: great time to start planning that because you've got plenty

686
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: of time to you know, take care of any contingencies,

687
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: figure things out, do additional research, maybe do some scouting

688
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: if you can. Um. And it's also a great time

689
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: a year to be figuring this out now, so you

690
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: have time to you know, go and figure out access

691
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: if you have to ask for permission. You know, I'd

692
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: like to know, I'd like to make my plans now

693
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: so that I've got, you know, plenty of time to

694
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: go ask permission to scout, to do the work. Um.

695
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to be doing this in August when

696
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: you're you know, the hunting season is almost here. So

697
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time thinking through, you know,

698
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: what's you know, thinking through the states I want to hunt,

699
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: thinking through you know, do I need to buy preference points?

700
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: A lot of states if you're gonna hunt, you know,

701
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: Iowa or Kansas or Illinois. These states, you know, require

702
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: that you apply for your licenses in the spring, so

703
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: you need to have planned that trip and be ready

704
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: for it beforehand. Um. So that's another good reason to

705
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: be figuring all those things out now. UM. It's also

706
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: just a good fun way to keep yourself engaged with

707
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: hunting while you're stuck inside on a really cold, snowy

708
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: bluster day. UM. I spend lots of time looking at maps,

709
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: going on Google Earth and just staring at these things.

710
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Are studying plat maps and parcel borders and picking out

711
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: this property and that property and if I could hunt

712
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: that one, and if I could hunt that one. Um,

713
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you do that? Mark. I'll be

714
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, if they were gonna have an intervention

715
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: for me on something, it wouldn't be booze or drugs.

716
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: It would be bing maps or Google Maps or parcel

717
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: like to find out who the owner of that particular

718
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: property is. I spend so much time, it's it's ridiculous

719
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: how much time I spend on those on those websites. Yeah,

720
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: I guilty too. You know another thing, I like to do.

721
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: In addition to that, I don't do this as much

722
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: as some of my friends, but I like to go

723
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: and look at properties for sale. So like I'll go

724
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: at a white Tail Properties website and just look at

725
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: all the different properties in Iowa and kind of dream about, oh, yeah,

726
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: I like that property. But if I only I had

727
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: a million five, i'd buy that property exactly exactly. And

728
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: then you dream about, man, how could I get that right?

729
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: And then before you know it, Daniel Robin banks exactly exactly. Hey,

730
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: don't put it past me. No, I wouldn't if anyone

731
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: would do it, Unfortunately it might be you. So why

732
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: did you do it? Mr Johnson? I wanted white Tail property? Yeah,

733
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: we've we've got an issue, don't way. Yeah we do. Yeah.

734
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: So look at the properties is important. UM. And that's

735
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: another piece, you know, in addition to you know, planning

736
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: the trips, is actually looking at the properties and determining,

737
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, which new properties you want to hunt next year. Um.

738
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: And we talked about this in one of our episodes

739
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: back in the summer. I think about gaining hunting permission. UM.

740
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: I'll make sure to link to that and this show notes.

741
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's really important to try to pick

742
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: the properties that you want to hunt in the future

743
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: now because one of the best tips, you know, that

744
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: you and I have both used in the past is

745
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: to actually, you know, find those properties and then go

746
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: ask for shed hunting permission this time of year when

747
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: you want to go shed hunting. Because you can establish

748
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: that relationship, you're more often going to get a yes

749
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to shed hunting than you might get

750
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: when you ask for deer hunting. But if you can say, hey,

751
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: i'd love to walk your property look for some antlers,

752
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of low risk and it's far away from

753
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: hunting seasons. So there, you know, in many cases landowners like, yeah,

754
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: sure you can walk for the day. And then by

755
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: doing that, right you get to show, you know, you're respectful,

756
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: you didn't do anything bad to their property. You'll have

757
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: another excuse to talk to them some more, you know,

758
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: build a little bit of relationship there. And oh, by

759
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: the way, you also get to scout the property while

760
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: you're looking for sheds to um. And so it really

761
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: is like the best thing you can do when it

762
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: comes to trying to at least I think so. And

763
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to gain hunting permission is

764
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: try to get shut hunting permission. It's a great way

765
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: to start it. So you have to go and find

766
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: those properties now so that you can go and ask

767
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: for shed hunting permission, you know, in a month or so.

768
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: And what I've learned, it's all about trust. The landowner

769
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: has to be able to trust you on their property,

770
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: whether it's to close a gate behind you or but

771
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, leave things as they were when you go

772
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: and come when you're going and coming from these properties,

773
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: and that you're a good person, and that that you're

774
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: there for the right reasons. And you know, because a

775
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of these times, if you do get permission, it's

776
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: one chance and you're done. So so I mean that

777
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: that's just my mine and the mind in the past,

778
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: my experience in the past. So uh, like you said

779
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: that this is the perfect time to do that because

780
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: right now, the farmers, unless they have livestock, the farmers

781
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: they're not as busy as they're going to be in

782
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: the spring and as they are in the fall. So

783
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean right now, other than you know that if

784
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: they have odd jobs that they have to do, you know,

785
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: a farmer is always busy but they're less busy this

786
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: time of year than they are any other time of year. Yeah, yep,

787
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: that's definitely the case. And um, it's you know, it's

788
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: just a it's another fun thing to do, keeping your

789
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: mind engaged in this kind of thing this time of year. Um,

790
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: and I guess for a quick you know, we might

791
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: have talked about this before, but I want to make

792
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: sure to point out something that I think has been

793
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: very helpful for with you and me, dam is using

794
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, online maps to find these properties. And so,

795
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, like we talked about using Google Maps to

796
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: look at an area. You know, we we maybe we've

797
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: driven by a spot that looks really bucky, you know,

798
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: great swamp or whatever it is. But you can go

799
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: on Google Maps, you know, see, Okay, here's the terrain

800
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: I want to hunt. I love this area. And then

801
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: most counties have online g I S maps, which are

802
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: essentially the database the maps for that county that show

803
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: the parcel borders and the landowner information. And so what

804
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: I do is for whatever county I'm hunting, I just

805
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: go to Google and I search you know X county

806
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: G I S maps, and almost always always you're gonna

807
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: find a link that you can click to and allow

808
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: you pull up that map and then you can take

809
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: a look at you know, all the property borders overlaid

810
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: over an aerial image of you know, that area, so

811
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: you can see, Okay, specifically, I'm interested in hunting this property,

812
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: this one, and this one, and you can get the

813
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: name and address for all those landowners and then you're

814
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, you're set to go out there during shed season,

815
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: knock on their doors, hopefully get permission, and then the

816
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: whole process starts there. But um, using these you know,

817
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: new digital resources makes it a lot easier, especially if

818
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: you're trying to hunt somewhere out of state, because you know,

819
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: in the past, if you want to get that property information,

820
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: you had to buy a plat map. Um. Some people

821
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: would mail it to you, but in some cases you

822
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: might actually have to be in that county to go

823
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: to the courthouse and find whoever sells it and buy

824
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: the physical book, which is a which is a pain

825
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: in the butt if you live in Michigan, you're trying

826
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: to hunt in Iowa. So you know, now you can

827
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: get it all, almost all of it digitally, and uh,

828
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: it's really easy, And I just want to take a

829
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: step backwards for a moment and talk about um about

830
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: getting permission. UM. Another thing, here's a tip if you

831
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: if you're you have permission to a certain property, and

832
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: this is what I have done in the past. Um

833
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: you say, okay, I you go up to the land

834
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: owner and you let them know, Hey, I already have

835
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: from mission to hunt here. Whether their friends or not.

836
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: The two lane owners or friends, they know that. Okay,

837
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: So if so and so let them hunt, then maybe

838
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: al hunt. Because this is what I've found that if

839
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: the bigger area that you get in, the bigger chunk

840
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: that are that are that are touching, the better. Because

841
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: I have, UM, I have a couple of properties where

842
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a small parcel and then a piece

843
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: of property between it and then another small parcel, you know,

844
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: and if I had that entire section, it would make

845
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: make it easier for me to you know, pattern some

846
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: of some of these deer. So, so that's one thing.

847
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: The second thing would be to ask about access. It

848
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, let them know, hey, if you're not

849
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: gonna let me hunt here, would it be possible if

850
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: I use your farm road to get back to the property,

851
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: to make it so you don't have to walk as

852
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: far or and cast your set over some of these properties.

853
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: So I do you have a property where I only

854
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: am allowed to park on it and walk through it

855
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: or walked on this road and that's it. So that's

856
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: just another another thing to be aware of when you're

857
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: when you're asking for permission. That's a really good idea.

858
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: That's a great point because again, something that so many

859
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: people overlook and I've overlooked at times two is just

860
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, getting lazy about your access and if you

861
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: can improve your access and exit routes, that can really

862
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: change how property hunts. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think

863
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned it to you UM back in December,

864
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: but I hadn't a late season hunt in Indiana and

865
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't access it the way I usually did because

866
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: the creek had flooded UM, so I couldn't get through,

867
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: but I was able to ask for permission to access

868
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: from the other side, and that ended up being a

869
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: much better access route in general. UM, So that might

870
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: be something if I were going to hunt there in

871
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: the future, I would just try to establish that UM

872
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: with a landowner again to be able access from that side,

873
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: because it gets you in there without disturbing a lot

874
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: of the other parts of the property. So, UM, I

875
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: like where your head's at. Good good thought, Dane. Yeah, UM, alright,

876
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: So what else we do in this time of year.

877
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: Something I'm doing now and I'm really doing this all year,

878
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: but especially now given the weather, given I'm not doing

879
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: as much outside as I typically am, you know, during

880
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: hunting season or during the summer. Is I'm doing a

881
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: ton of um learning and reading and researching. Um. I'm

882
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: you know, as I've admitted before, I'm a huge book nerd.

883
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: So this time year, I'm I'm devouring books, lots of

884
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: stuff related to hunting. UM, lots of how to books,

885
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: lots of you know, more deeper hunting related books. UM.

886
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm researching. UM, you know, some of the things we

887
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: talked about, like specific areas to hunt or properties to hunt.

888
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: But I'm also just researching, you know. Yeah, I'm always

889
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: trying to learn. I think one of the biggest things

890
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to being a deer hunter is realizing

891
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: that you can never stop learning. UM. There's always something

892
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: new to learn. There's always new ideas, new concepts, new

893
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: ways to evolve our understanding of whitetail deer and I

894
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: the big reason why I love it so much is

895
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: because it's something that I'm so fascinated with, and I

896
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: know I will never have it all figured out, so

897
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm just constantly trying to find a little extra here

898
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: or understand it one more thing here. UM. So I

899
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but this time of year, I'm

900
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: just just devouring content, reading magazines, reading books. I'm on blogs,

901
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: reading different things all the time. UM. Hopefully you know,

902
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: for other people out there, you know, what they're finding

903
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: a weird hunt is helping them in that standpoint or

904
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: from that standpoint. But there's lots of other good stuff

905
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: out there too. Yeah, it's uh. For me, it's it's

906
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: almost a bit hypocritical. But I'm not really into I.

907
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I do occasionally read a story of another hunter. But

908
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: what I like to devour this And you nailed it

909
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: when you said the word evolved. UM. I like to

910
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: read on science. Um, why an animal does the things

911
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: they do? Um, what makes a specific predator better at

912
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: killing an animal than another predator? Or um, you know

913
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: howard ears knows work, how their glands work. You know,

914
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: what is the trigger for the rut? What is you know?

915
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: You know, background on moon phases, all that kind of

916
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: all that kind of kind of scientific um evidence or

917
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: hypothesis and and all that kind of stuff is what

918
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: really what really gets me going. Yeah, that stuff so fascinating. UM.

919
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: And you know, a couple of magazines. There's a lot

920
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: of good you know hunting magazines out there, UM, but

921
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: a couple do you know, have you know, standards sections

922
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: related to biology UM. Quality of white Tails has a

923
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: lot of great content UM when it comes to the

924
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: biology and science of deer um. And they also and

925
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, as I think most people know, Quality white

926
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: Tales of the magazine published by the Quality Deer Management

927
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: Association UM. They also released something and uh end of

928
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: January or February called the white Tail Report every year.

929
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: So the two thousand fifteen white Tail Report, I think

930
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: will be available in a week or two. And usually

931
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: that really goes into some interesting details in regards to

932
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: current white tail trends with populations and harvests and different

933
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: things like that. But then also they dive into some

934
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: different things with other studies and research about deer um.

935
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: It's always pretty fascinating. So I'd recommend you know, people

936
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: check out the white Tail Report Um, like I said,

937
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, it will be available. And

938
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: if you just google, you know, two thousand fourteen white

939
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Tail Report or two thousand fifteen white Tail Report, that's

940
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: a good one, um to get that kind of info down.

941
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been able to take

942
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: a look at that, but I've always been interested in it. Yeah,

943
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: and here's here's something that's kind of weird. And I

944
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: don't think I'm actually going to murder another person, but

945
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: my whole my wife watches a lot of murder mysteries

946
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: and dateline and twenties and all those things. So the

947
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: other night she was watching something on a serial killer

948
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: and they finally caught this guy and they're asking him,

949
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, how did you away with all these things?

950
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, and he it's crazy coming from the

951
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: mouth of a serial killer, but it's kind of like

952
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: we are the same when hunting deer. We're someone used

953
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: some of the same principles. He's like, the more I

954
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: know about the person that I'm going to kill, the

955
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: easier it was for me to do it. So you

956
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: translate that into deer hunting, and you know, the more

957
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: information you know about how a deer acts, how what

958
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: what his patterns are, what he does? You know, in

959
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: certain times a year, it's gonna become easier for you to,

960
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: um put together a game plan to try to harvest

961
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: that animal. Yeah, that's a great point, but a super

962
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: creepy way to get to it. But you're but you're

963
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: absolutely right. UM, you've gotta understand your prey. You gotta

964
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: understand your corey. And now it is a great time

965
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: to really dive into that. Um. You know, another plug

966
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: here I'd like to make um. You know, I think

967
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of us really like how two articles you know,

968
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: different tips and tactics for how to be a better hunter.

969
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: It's you know, makes last sense to read things like

970
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: you're just talking about the research about deer and better

971
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: understand or prey. UM. But I would really encourage everyone

972
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: to do a little reading or thinking about hunting from

973
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: a different standpoint. And you know, maybe I'm a little

974
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: bit of romantic on this, um, but the philosophical or

975
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: ethical or moral standpoint of hunting, I think that everyone.

976
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea for everyone to think

977
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: about the ethics of hunting UM and sometimes look at

978
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: look at how you hunt and you examine the ethics

979
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: of what you're hunting. Ethic is because I think that's

980
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: something that evolves, or at least should evolve, and everyone

981
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: should at least be thinking about that. UM. Why you hunt,

982
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: how you hunt? What these things mean? Are you going

983
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: about the right way? Um? We're all gonna draw different

984
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: lines in the sand, but I think it's very important

985
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: to at least be thinking about that and cognizant of that.

986
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: And UM. You know, there's a book that I've read

987
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: last year that really UM helped me to do this.

988
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: It really made me ask questions about myself, to think about,

989
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, why do I do this? How do I

990
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: do this? Am I doing this in the best way possible? Um?

991
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: Am I doing you know, the the animal of the

992
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: service that that should be done? Am I respecting it

993
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: the proper way? Um? And it was a really good

994
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: book for me to read, to ask these questions, to

995
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: think about these things. And it's called A Hunter's Heart

996
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: and it's a series of essays that are collected by

997
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: a guy named David Peterson. I'm here wrote one essay,

998
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: but there's another like forty or forty five articles or

999
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: essays or chapters. UM. Devoted to all all sorts of

1000
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: different things related to hunting, but it's more of the

1001
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: deeper side of hunting. So it's asking the questions of

1002
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: why we do it, or you know, why and how

1003
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: do we do it? Or the ethics of different pieces

1004
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: and parts of it. And it's just a good read

1005
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: to challenge you as a hunter and as a person

1006
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: to think through these concepts, because, um, you know, when

1007
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: it comes right down to it, hunting is a very

1008
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: it's a serious thing. Like we are going out there

1009
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: and we are hunting an animal, and we are killing

1010
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: an animal. We are taking a life, and I think

1011
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: that's something that it's not trivial. It's not something to

1012
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: be taken lightly. It's not something that should be thought

1013
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: of as you know, it's it's just a game or

1014
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: something you know, fun to kind of go out and do.

1015
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: It's of course we enjoy hunting, but it's a very

1016
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: serious type of thing, and I think it's important to

1017
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: have that respect for it and to think through it,

1018
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: um in those ways. So I really encourage everyone to

1019
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: take a look at that book if you get a chance.

1020
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: It's called a Hunter's Heart, Um. It just it does

1021
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: a nice job of presenting a lot of different thoughts

1022
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: and opinions and viewpoints on hunting. Um, that really got

1023
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: me thinking. And I think if everyone read that book

1024
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: and at least you know, you're not gonna agree with everything,

1025
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: but at least allow yourself to be open to these

1026
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: ideas and just to think through these things yourself. Um gosh,

1027
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I think we would all be better for it. So yeah,

1028
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: that's my little plug. It's a it's pretty cool once

1029
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: you realize that hunting it's not just Gamo and bo

1030
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and if you can if you

1031
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: can let your mind or the spiritual side of it too,

1032
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: it's just adds that much more enjoyment to to the

1033
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 1: actual process. I guess that is hunting. Yeah, yeah, there's

1034
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: there's there's so much, so much more to it. And

1035
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us start out, you know,

1036
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: as kids. You know, dad or grandpa or uncle or

1037
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: a friend gets out gets you out there hunting, and

1038
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: at that point, you know, you're just trying to wrap

1039
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: your head around the basics. You know, what I gotta

1040
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: do to see a deer or what do I need

1041
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: to do to kill a deer? And at that point

1042
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: it's just kind of you know, the surface level stuff.

1043
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: There's a deer, here's a gun, how do I shoot it?

1044
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: How do I kill it? Um? But I think as

1045
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: we age, we begin to think through more of these

1046
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: things about you know, the deeper aspects of it, and

1047
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, for some people, almost the

1048
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: spirituality of it, or whatever it might be for you. Um,

1049
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: it's a really deep thing, and it's something that I

1050
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: think for me, Um, it's really at the core of

1051
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: who I am and digging into that and thinking about

1052
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: that and you know, UM, I don't know. Just having

1053
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: these types of conversations, whether it be with other people,

1054
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: are kind of internally with yourself. I think it helps

1055
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: you grow as a hunter and as a person, and

1056
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: it's it's an important thing to do. So, whether it

1057
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: be with a book or you know, just thinking about

1058
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: these things yourself. I'd encourage everyone to try to do

1059
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: that in these next couple of weeks, during this kind

1060
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: of the heart of winter. Um, it's a good time

1061
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: to do that kind of thinking for sure. UM. I

1062
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: guess moving on from our deep piece there, there's there's

1063
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: two more things I think we want to touch on,

1064
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: dan Um, And I'll touch on one and then I'll

1065
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: let you touch on the second, Um, because I think

1066
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: you are, you know, particularly fond of doing this. I

1067
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: think we all should be. UM. But fitness is something

1068
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of hunters should be thinking

1069
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: about it this at this time of year. UM. I'm

1070
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: not going to try to say that everyone needs to

1071
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: be you know, uh an iron Man to be a

1072
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: successful deer hunter. You don't need to be um, you know,

1073
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Cameron Haynes to kill deer. But it is a good

1074
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: thing to to sharpen that tool because when it comes

1075
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: right down to it, you know, as we talked about,

1076
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's all these different pieces of the puzzle

1077
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to be on the hunted deer, and

1078
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: there's all these different tools you can use, and your body,

1079
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: your physical body is one of those tools that is,

1080
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, part of the entire equation when it comes

1081
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: to hunting. When you're walking too your tree stand, when

1082
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: you're drawing your bow, when you're out there in the cold,

1083
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: all these different things. You will be able to perform

1084
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: those tasks better if your body is in tune, if

1085
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: you are making sure it's as optimal as possible. So,

1086
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say that everyone needs to

1087
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: be working out every day of the week and you know,

1088
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: be weightlifting and eating protear drinking protein shakes every day.

1089
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 1: But I think I just encourage everyone to think about

1090
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: different ways to try to, um you, improve their physical

1091
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: physical fitness a little bit. And if you're really into it,

1092
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I think the more the better. UM. I'm

1093
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: certainly trying to do that as best as possible. Given

1094
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: my deer hunting and elk hunting and trying to some

1095
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: bear hunting. This you're in a bunch of different things

1096
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: where it really does require you be you know, physically

1097
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: ready for that. Um. But now it's a great time

1098
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: of year to get into it if you aren't already.

1099
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: UM my issue, Dan, I don't know if you're like this,

1100
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: but my biggest challenge is that I'm I'm pretty good about,

1101
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, staying relatively in shape and working out when

1102
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: it comes to the winter months, you know, February, March, April,

1103
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: even in the summer when I'm out running or doing

1104
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: different things outside. But once hunting season hits for me,

1105
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: like once deer hunting season starts, I stopped doing all

1106
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: my other workout you know, routines and stuff, and I'm

1107
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: just hunting and working, and I always fall into this

1108
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: hole where I did really good all year leading up

1109
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: to it, and then for four months I'm just a turd.

1110
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't work out, I eat like crap, I have

1111
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: horrible sleeping habits, and then when it comes back to

1112
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: the winner again after the deer season, I'm trying to

1113
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: start working out again. Then I'm just killing myself because

1114
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: I should have stayed stuck with it. So I wish,

1115
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, in the future, I'm gonna try to do

1116
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: better to kind of stick to some kind of routine,

1117
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: because I just did one of my more serious workouts

1118
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: just recently after not doing anything all fall, and I

1119
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: am still sore and just ruggling. Yeah, the last two

1120
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: weeks have been my what I call my sore weeks.

1121
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: So I do a lot of heavy lifting and to

1122
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: get the soreness out of the way, and then I'll

1123
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: expand my workouts into other things. But but I wanted

1124
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: to make sure that when I went on my Nebraska

1125
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: trip last year, um this pass fall, that I wasn't

1126
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: going to let my you know, my legs determine, you know,

1127
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: that I could or could not go any further than

1128
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: what you know, my body would allow me. So I

1129
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: worked my legs. You know, typically people they don't work

1130
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: their legs. They work those glamour muscles, you know, the

1131
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: curls and the triceps and the chests and whatever. But

1132
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to hunting, you're on your legs of

1133
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: the time. So those are the those are the muscle

1134
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: groups that you really got to focus on. And again

1135
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: with this, with this elk hunt that we're going to

1136
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: be going on this year, I am not gonna what,

1137
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, my body exhaustion determine not making it to

1138
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: the next hill that I need to be to potentially

1139
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: shoot an elk. And I saw a direct result of

1140
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: that this year when I went out to Nebraska and

1141
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: I was walking, you know, fifteen miles a day. So

1142
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: I I saw that my my working out and taking

1143
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: better care of myself, losing weight and all that stuff

1144
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: um helped me. And I plan on doing that again

1145
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: this year when we go out out in the mountains.

1146
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: And you know, it doesn't help to drop a couple

1147
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: of pounds while you're doing it too. So yeah, for me,

1148
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I wish I was more motivated to

1149
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: to stay in really good shape just from a purely

1150
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, hey it's good for you standpoint, or you know,

1151
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: just getting better shape, keep the wife happy type of deal.

1152
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: But I am the biggest motivator for me is these

1153
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: hunting trips, like you know, having a trip like that

1154
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: where I'm hey, I'm gonna be hunting, you know, in

1155
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: Idaho for elk, or Hey, I've got deer season coming up,

1156
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: and I know I'm gonna have to put a tree

1157
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: stand in a pound pack and hike two miles back

1158
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: to the spot in public line to hunt, you know,

1159
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: knowing that that is in my future. That's the stuff

1160
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: that gets me out there and gets me running or

1161
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: gets me lifting or doing whatever it is. Um, Like

1162
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: I literally when I'm running the final minute of the

1163
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: final quarter mile, when you're just huffing trying to get

1164
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: back to the end. Um, I just envisioned like coming

1165
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 1: up overhill towards an elk or having that buck walk

1166
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: in and I'm at full draw for two minutes, and um,

1167
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I never want a physical

1168
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: thing like my lack of effort and work from a

1169
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: physical standpoint, I never want that to be the reason

1170
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: why I can't, you know, reach my goal. UM. And

1171
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: you know a perfect example for me was this past

1172
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: year with my Ohio buck. Um. I was drawn on

1173
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: that deer for almost two minutes straight. UM And I

1174
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: was at full draw for almost two minutes. And if

1175
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: I hadn't been, you know, working hard all spring and

1176
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: summer to make sure I've got some basic shoulder and

1177
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: arm strength. UM. And I'm not a big, you know,

1178
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: terribly super duper strong guy or anything, um, but just

1179
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: trying to maintain you know, that ability to handle something

1180
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: like that. UM. If I wasn't, if I hadn't been

1181
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: working out and doing anything to work on my shoulders

1182
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: or anything, I don't think I would have been held

1183
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: for two minutes. And I wouldn't have gotten that deer.

1184
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: If I wasn't at full draw that entire time, without moving,

1185
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: without letting down, that deer had been gone. But because

1186
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: I was able to stay two minutes, not move, stay

1187
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: at full draw, I got that buck. And UM. You

1188
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: know that's just one example of how and why that's important,

1189
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: even for a white tail hunter, even more so if

1190
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: you're hunting other species. So now, I think I think

1191
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: another good thing that comes out of you know, physical

1192
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: fitness is mental clarity because it is a huge stress reliever,

1193
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: and science proves all these things about how um, you know,

1194
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: if you work out, it improves your your self awareness

1195
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: or I don't. I really don't know what all that

1196
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: all that mumbo jumbo is about. But you're sitting, you're

1197
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: you're you're in really good shape, and you that discipline

1198
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: it takes to you know, lift five days a week

1199
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: or work out five days a week or do all

1200
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: that translates into the patients in the stand and when

1201
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: the time comes to you know, it would reduce your

1202
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: your buck fever, so to speak. So I've done some

1203
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: reading on that as well, where you know, the better

1204
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: shape you're in, the less buck fever. Yeah. I think

1205
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of intuitive sense. That would be

1206
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: the case. That's for sure. That and it's my stress reliever.

1207
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: I sit in a cubicle all day long and I

1208
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: can't hit people at my job. So I go out

1209
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: and I you know, I push around some heavy weights

1210
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: and I you know, walk on a StairMaster, do some running,

1211
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: and that energy gets put towards I guess my fitness

1212
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: instead of going to jail. Yeah. And I think most

1213
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: people are in jobs where they can't hit people too,

1214
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: so this would be a good recommendation for them to. UM.

1215
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: This is something you know, again, you know, if you're

1216
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: not that kind of person that wants to be working out,

1217
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: it's not required. And I'm not trying to say that

1218
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: you need to be doing this kind of thing, but

1219
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: it helps, it really does. UM. So we're gonna have

1220
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: We're hopefully going to be having Cameron Haynes on the

1221
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: show here in the future to discuss this topic and

1222
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: more depth. And for those that don't know, Cameron Haynes

1223
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: is kind of the guy in the hunting world who

1224
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: has really become a spokesman for you know, trying to

1225
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: be more physically prepped for the hunt. And he's a

1226
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: big you know, Western hunter in the mountains and stuff,

1227
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: but I know he does some white tail hunting and

1228
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: some blacktail deer hunting and things like that. So hopefully

1229
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 1: we can continue this conversation with him in the near

1230
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: future and get some ideas and ways that we can

1231
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: all become a little bit better physically prepared to deer hunt. UM.

1232
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: In addition to all the different mind games and strategies

1233
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: and things that we put together so that to all

1234
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: being the case, Dan, what is the final thing that

1235
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: we should be doing this time of year, um as

1236
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: deer hunters, um kissing or wife's But yeah, I mean

1237
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: this is that time of year where projects like here

1238
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: this month or next month. I got another kid coming,

1239
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: so that means I got another bedroom to build, whether

1240
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be painting, putting together at crib, moving stuff around, um,

1241
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: doing all these things because my wife isn't you know,

1242
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: my wife isn't pregnant, or my wife's pregnant now, so

1243
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, household jobs that maybe that you've put off

1244
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: for too long. Landscaping you know that that typically would

1245
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: happen in the summer. But anything that's going to allow

1246
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: you more time in the stand, you know, the better.

1247
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have two kids, so I'm going to

1248
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: have to do a lot of you know, building those

1249
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: brownie points and working my butt off every weekend now

1250
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: so that when November comes, I can take off as

1251
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: much time as possible. And you know, and I know,

1252
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: just like you. I think we talked about this the

1253
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: other day. Mark, is you got to choose your battles.

1254
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: Is it worth going on that um that you know

1255
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: overnight or two day fishing trip in the summer, or

1256
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: do you want to take those two days and use

1257
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: them in the in the fall. So choose your battles wisely. Yeah,

1258
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: that's a very good point, um, And I think that

1259
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: applies to a lot of things. People are like, how

1260
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: can you go hunting all the time? How can you

1261
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: get all this time away? Well, I'm not, you know,

1262
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: because I want to spend this time on these hunting

1263
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: trips and things I'm doing. I'm not going on you know,

1264
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: other trips with other people doing other things throughout the year.

1265
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: It's you know, I'm devoting my time either to my

1266
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: wife or to hunting. Um, so sacrificing a lot of

1267
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: other things that my other buddies are doing. I'm not

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: going to you know, football games, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: basketball games. I'm not going to Las Vegas. Um. I'm

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Speaker 1: either doing stuff for laid hunting or spending time on

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Speaker 1: the house, helping out, spending time with a wife. Um.

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Speaker 1: And that's a choice that I've made based on priorities,

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Speaker 1: and I think, um, you know, everyone has to keep

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Speaker 1: that minded and everyone's priorities are different. But if you

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Speaker 1: think that you want hunting to be you know, up

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Speaker 1: towards the top for you, then you need to you

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Speaker 1: do need to sacrifice some things. So that's a great,

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Speaker 1: great stuff to think about. And I think also financially,

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Speaker 1: that's a whole another thing. But uh, you know, for me,

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'm not buying. I don't buy

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Speaker 1: pretty much anything other than our basic necessities and stuff

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Speaker 1: related to hunting. I don't buy stuff. I don't buy

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Speaker 1: clothes more than like once a year, a couple of

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Speaker 1: basic things, because I've chosen that I want to put

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Speaker 1: my you know, my time and money and finances behind

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that are important to me and

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Speaker 1: not a bunch of fancy TVs or video game systems

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Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. And that's just me. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: got their priorities. But I think that now is a

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Speaker 1: good time to think about all those things and and

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Speaker 1: plan for it. Yeah, the dollar bill controls all and uh,

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Speaker 1: I know that this year I'm gonna have to choose

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Speaker 1: wisely what I what I decided to make my purchases

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Speaker 1: on because I already know that I'm gonna need, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit different clothing or some different

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Speaker 1: gear for when we go up into the mountains. And uh, um,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna cost money, and I got a plan for it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the truth. So I think, Dan, that is all

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Speaker 1: the time we've got today. We've kind of been yambering

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Speaker 1: here for a while. We covered a lot of things

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Speaker 1: today we did. I think a lot of stuff we

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Speaker 1: touched on and um, we'll probably dive in deeper on

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Speaker 1: a number of these things in the future. But hopefully

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Speaker 1: we've got some of our listeners kind of minds turning

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Speaker 1: on some of these things they can start doing. At

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Speaker 1: this time of year January and February is it's not

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Speaker 1: a time just to sit in your butt. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we can be doing to work

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Speaker 1: towards the two thousand fifteen hunting season. So I hope

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Speaker 1: that we uh got some got some ideas moving, got

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Speaker 1: some people motivated, and I know what, this helped me

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Speaker 1: get motivated about some of the things I need to

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Speaker 1: do too, So I think, uh, I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be at force. Dan, Well, we'll see you guys next week,

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Speaker 1: Yes we will. And um, actually, today on the Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt blog, I actually posted something asking everyone to

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Speaker 1: share with us who you want to hear on the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast this year. Um, so if you

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't already go to wired hunt dot com check out

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Speaker 1: that blog post and leave us your suggestions in the

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Speaker 1: comment section. We want to know who you want to

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Speaker 1: hear from, and I'm gonna do everything I can to

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Speaker 1: get those people on the show here in the coming months.

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: So again you'll go to wired hunt dot com and

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: if you want to go to the show notes for

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Speaker 1: this one Wired hunt dot Com Slash Episode forty, I'll

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Speaker 1: make sure to have a link to that blog where

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Speaker 1: you can leave your suggestions. Um. We also talked about

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Speaker 1: a number of other blog posts and videos and different resources.

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Speaker 1: I will make sure to have those links at the

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: show notes as well. So again that's wired to hunt

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Speaker 1: dot Com Slash Episode forty. If you haven't already done so,

1333
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: another fan recommend you do is subscribe to the wired

1334
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: Hunt podcast on whatever podcast app you have on your

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: phone or your tablet. It makes getting these podcasts a

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Speaker 1: lot easier, So if you have an iPhone or iPad,

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Speaker 1: you can get the podcast app. If you have an

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Speaker 1: Android device, you can use the Stitcher app. Um, make

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Speaker 1: sure you check those out, download them, subscribe to the podcast.

1340
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: That way you'll get our show every week, download right

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01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: to your phone or tablet right away. You won't need

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01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: to think about it, so that when you're driving to

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Speaker 1: work next time, it'll just be there and ready for him,

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Speaker 1: So recommend you do that. As always, we'd also like

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Speaker 1: to thank our partners who helped make this show possible.

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: Big thank you too, Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery,

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: Redneck Blinds, Carmea Express Arrows, Hunt Soft Lacrosse, Boots, Big

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Speaker 1: and J Longrange Attractings, and the White Tail Institute of

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Speaker 1: North America. And finally, we need to say thank you

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Speaker 1: to you guys, the listeners. Thank you again for getting

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: us to forty episodes. It's been awesome. I'm glad you

1352
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: guys have been enjoying them. Hopefully we can make the

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Speaker 1: show even better in the future, so so thank you

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Speaker 1: for that. And I guess in closing, I know it's

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Speaker 1: easy for you to want to settle into the couch

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Speaker 1: kind of get lazy. I do it too, but remember

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to be done still. Like we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of work to do here in January and February,

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Speaker 1: so get out there, do the work. Dream Big for

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Speaker 1: two fift and of course always stay while you're t