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Speaker 1: good to hear your guy's voice. Where you've been. I

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Speaker 1: You're at to tell me how you pulled that off.

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Speaker 1: I had COVID and trust me, I've milked the entire

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Speaker 1: quarantine recommendation from the CDC. Ket I kept an old school.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go to the new school changes. I kept

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Speaker 1: old school ten days. Yeah, yeah, you took it ten days. Well,

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Speaker 1: we missed you, coach, so I appreciate you missing us

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Speaker 1: as well. Uh dealing with this again, huh like you

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Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: let's it's just part of our day to exercise. Coach,

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Speaker 1: obviously impressive. Coach, what has been your arrest versus rust

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Speaker 1: The irony of all this is our players want to play.

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Speaker 1: best thing for us to do as a football team. Coach.

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