1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of iHeart Radio. And 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: if I sounded really excited, then I was introducing this 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: because I am. I'm like raring to go. You're kiddy 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: at this point. I know, I know, I'm expecting this 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: one to be so fun, but it brought back to 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: just so many memories that I had reading these books 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: as kids. So we are this is our part two 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: of our fictional Women around the World. I kind of 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: usurped to this month. It was an accident. I'm good 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: with that. Let's go uh on Mara Jaide on mar Jade, 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and we are recording them back to back. So if 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like, yeah, we're just steam I'm steaming ahead, 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: well so they have the patient patiently listens. It is true, yes, 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: because I'm so excited to talk about this. But do 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: check out Part one where we talked about mar Jade's 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the introduction to her character, the popularity of her character. 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: She is this kind of assassin, spy, emperor's hand, like 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: working for the Emperor, going to Jedi night, going to 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker's wife, which we're going to talk about in 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: this one. She's just a really fascinating character. She does 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: not currently exist in my mind. There's been some teasing 23 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: that she might in Disney canon, but she was in 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: over ninety things in the Extended Universe or Legends Cannon, 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: which is just basically everything that happened before Disney. Yes, 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: all right, so let's get into it right after. So 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: we just ended with they had this huge fight. Mar 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Jade killed Luke with two U Skywalker the Clone. She 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: fulfilled the Emperor's last order of kill Luke Skywalker. Luke 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: has given her his father's lightsaber. They go their separate ways, 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: but Maria Jaide did train under a Jedi. After renouncing 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: the dark side of the Force and off and on 33 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: again with Luke, she joined back up with Card, who 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: was the smuggler she grew really close to and worked 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: with and occasionally provided aid to the New Republic, which 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: is what rose after the Empire. She helped in several 37 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: pivotal battles to beat back the remnant Empire and other 38 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: evils in the galaxy, including her previous master who are 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: just mentioned, who did fall to the dark side. She 40 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: went to surrender to him. She convinced him to come 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: back there was a doplocking of herself. I swear, I 42 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: know I am glossing over so much. I know it's 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: a two parter and you're all affag at me, but 44 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: I really there's a lot that happened. But anyway, and 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: when Osidius was successfully rebirthed as a comb which is 46 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: what they're doing right now by the way in and 47 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: all the new Disney stuff, she refused to return to 48 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: his service, and that caused him to seek revenge on 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: her for betraying him. A lot of spy stuff happened, 50 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: including at one point going undercover. She went undercover and 51 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: pretended she was in a relationship with Lando Calrisian. She 52 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: saved her, helped Luke a bunch of times, and finally 53 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: came to terms with the depths of the empire's lives, 54 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: the emperor's life, specifically that she was not the only 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: emperor's hands, which she had been taught had grown up 56 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: to believe, and then she sought to get her own revenge, 57 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: though she did end up helping a lot of brainwashed 58 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: soldiers that she had once worked with, which was this 59 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: mission that once again had her working with Luke. So 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: she did like she wanted to get revenge, and then 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: she saw people in a similar situation as her decided 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: to help instead. After learning of a pretty serious threat, 63 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: mar Jaide went to warn Luke about it and finally 64 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: emitted she liked seeing him sometimes. Maybe. Luke asked her 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: to stay for dinner. When another Jedi Callista Ming, asked 66 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: mar Jaid if she'd ever been interested in Luke. Mar 67 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: jd who was aware that Ming was in love with Luke, 68 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: told her she'd once wanted nothing more than to kill him, 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: and after that they were booking of like no hard 70 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Feelings cool. Luke loved to me too, but she eventually 71 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: left him to go on her own journey. She hers 72 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: backstory is pretty wild too, She's like a force ghost. 73 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: It's later mar Jade joined forces with Han and Huey 74 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: to save Luke from this dude who was determined to 75 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: kill him, and she was captured but was able to 76 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: escape using all of her spine assassin skills and she 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: scored a sweet ship that she named Jade's Fire out 78 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: of it good name. It is a good name. Then 79 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: she was captured again alongside Leah and the two had 80 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: to work together, though they didn't really trust each other, 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: but they were able to escape and kind of another 82 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: mutual respect came out of it. They were later captured again, 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: while mar jd attempted to persuade their captors to work 84 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: with them, something she did manage to do after Luke 85 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: showed up and mar Jade was like, you know what, 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: we make a good team. Maybe we should work together 87 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: more often. I do like that, Like she gets captured 88 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: all the time, but she usually gets herself out of it. 89 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Or Luke gets captured and she helps him out, and 90 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the balance equals because gets captured a lot. Speaking of 91 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: he was captured by pirates while investigating a new imperial 92 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: threat and mar j came to his rescue. Then she 93 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: injured herself on another mission and Luke rescued her. The 94 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: force convinced them to infiltrate a fortress together, and while 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: they were traveling underground passages to do so, they had 96 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations. They hashed a lot of stuff out. 97 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: She confessed that she wished he'd paid her more attention 98 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: when she visited his Jeda academy, and that she thought 99 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: he needed to stop trying to do everything himself because 100 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: he felt so guilty for briefly working with the reborn Emperor. 101 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: She was like, look, I'm trying to do better, but 102 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: you got to calm down. Then Maria j gets shot 103 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and Luke puts her in a healing chance, and that's 104 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: when he's like, oh no, I'm in love with her. However, 105 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: it is not smooth sailing when she wakes up. They 106 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: thought about why she was so resistant to devoting herself 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: to helping others, and or like, why she wouldn't admit 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: that she wanted to or did already. She asked about 109 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Big Luke asked about Lando, but they talked it out 110 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: and they lowered their mental barriers and were like, in 111 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: the force, doing that hug thing you can do. Just 112 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: let me live my best life. They finally infiltrated the 113 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: fortress and mar Jade was able to learn more about 114 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Thron's master plan, and she and Luke had a few 115 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: narrow escapes that culminated in her using this becon call 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: on her ship that had it crash into the enemy's 117 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: hangar to prevent them from getting a message out, which 118 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: was really devastating because she loved that ship. And she 119 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: joined minds with Luke to fight off their attackers. However, 120 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: they were trapped into space filling rapidly with water, and 121 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Luke revealed his feelings from march Ade and asked her 122 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: to marry him, and she said yes. And I cannot 123 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: stress enough how on brand this is for them. Here's 124 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: the quote, Mara, will you marry me? You mean if 125 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: we get out of here alive? I mean regardless. Oh However, 126 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: working together they were able to save themselves from drowning. 127 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: They both got knocked about, but when they woke up, 128 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Luke told her, I love you, Maara. With politics, they 129 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: tried to go on vacation after all of this, but 130 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: word of their marriage got out and it was viewed 131 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: as a symbol of new republic unity with the Empire. 132 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Then C three PO got involved, wanting to plan this 133 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: huge way, which was really not what maraa Jade wanted. 134 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Designers were competing to design her dress, but Maria ended 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: up going with a woman she found on streets who 136 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: had been fired by her boss. Luke and Mara did 137 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: have a more private Jedi wedding soon after, at the 138 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: newly established Jedi training grounds in Corroissant. Coroissant is kind 139 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: of that big city planet where Damper lived, where the 140 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: Jedi used to be based. Oh, they joined two halfs 141 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: of a crystal together as a symbol of their union, 142 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: but it was still not smooth sailing. She was not 143 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: happy when she found out Luke had gotten in a 144 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: bar fight at his bachelor party, and then she had 145 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: a dream that Luke was corrupted by the dark Side 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: and Palpatine had won. Meanwhile, maraa Jade and her bridesmaids, 147 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: including Leah, went to a spa. Oh my gosh, Oh, 148 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: they went to us ball, but they got bored and 149 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: went and challenged and kicked the asses of some dudes 150 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: at this sport called sling ball. And they all unanimously 151 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: decided not to tell Luke's bachelor party crew this since 152 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: they'd given him given them such a hard time about 153 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: fighting at the party. And then a bunch of Imperial 154 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: forces conspired to derail this wedding. Maria Jade was attacked, 155 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: though she easily defeated her opponents, and an Imperial mof 156 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: showed up at the ceremony right at the key part. 157 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Of course, Luke and his friends were able to shut 158 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: them down. I think it was like multiple attacks. Then 159 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: they did exchange vows, they exchanged rings, and they became 160 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: the Skywalkers. All On took them on their honeymoon location 161 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: to on the falcon. He took them there. Here are 162 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: some vows. Here's what Mara said. When I first met Luke, 163 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: I was under compulsion to kill him. Generally not a 164 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: good sign for a lasting relationship. Such was his courage 165 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: that he did not run and did not strike me. 166 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: He accepted me as no one else had done before. 167 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh oh, and Luke gave her a fancy ship as 168 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: a wedding present. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, I kind of wanted 169 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: to talk about that, because it's hilarious that they have 170 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: all like in a galaxy far far away, it's still 171 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: like our human gender normative, better normative weddings, wedding traditions. 172 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: I tickled me when I was reading it. I remember 173 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: reading this, but when I was a kid, I didn't 174 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: think twice about it. I was like, yeah, sure, that's 175 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: what you do at a wedding. But now I'm like 176 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: they would to a spa. Nothing wrong with that. I 177 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: just thought it was kind of all right. The honeymoon 178 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: period had to end sometime, and a year later, Mara 179 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: was annoyed at how often and how much of Luke's 180 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: time got snatched up by others to negotiate peace deals 181 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: or provide aid. He did try to make it up 182 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: to her with a second honeymoon, where she warned him 183 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: not to call her a blushing bride. They for the 184 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: most part settled teaching or searching out young for sensitives. 185 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: She was definitely the one that was traveling more and 186 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: he was staying on the planet and at this point teaching. 187 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: But she did kind of decide to focus solely on 188 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: her family in the Jedi like finding these young Jedi 189 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: ringing them back. There are a lot of instances of 190 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: them being her and Luca good team in the face 191 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: of people and organizations constantly trying to capture them or 192 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: kill them. They went on a million adventures together. She 193 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: went on to train under Luke as I said, and 194 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: went on to take her niece Jana solo as her apprentice. 195 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: So in the EU, On and Leiah have Jason, Jana 196 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: and Anakin, and Jason and Jena are twins all right. So, 197 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: while on a mission, mar Jaide was infected with a 198 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: deadly bio weapon with the Force. She was able to 199 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: keep it from killing her, but there was no permanent cure. 200 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: She kept going on missions, but the disease got worse 201 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: and worse and seemed to be connected to deteriorating planets. 202 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: Mar decided she wanted to have a child with Luke, 203 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: but she wanted to figure out what's going on with 204 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: her illness first, and there was a whole side plot 205 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: that I forgot about where she was like, I might 206 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: be infertile, and she tried to convince Luke to leave 207 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: her because of itivity was like, no, he refused. Yeah. 208 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: To that end, she took an ill advised cure that 209 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: seemed to do the trick and surprise, she's pregnant and 210 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the forest tells her it's a boy. She had a 211 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: pretty rough pregnancy and it wasn't helped out by the 212 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: anti Jedi movement in the Senate was trying to exile 213 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: her and Leake and all the Jedi while trying to 214 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: escape potential arrest. She collapsed and it was revealed the 215 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: meds that she had been taking for her illness had 216 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: caused placental toxic shock, putting the life of her child 217 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: in danger. She stopped taking the meds and her condition 218 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: worsened to the point that she was near death. It 219 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: was only through joining minds with the child and Luke 220 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that they were able to rid her of the disease 221 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and save her life. They named their son Ben. He 222 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: was born into a lot of chaos and Anakin Solo 223 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: han a LA's kid died in the battle that was 224 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: happening around him. He was kidnapped, eventually rescued, but Jana 225 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: and mar Jade ended their mentor apprenticeship relationship in the 226 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: wake of their grief over Anakin. Also true bacatied. It 227 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: was a very traumatic It was very traumatic. Yeah, oh yo. 228 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: As mentioned, Marra was one of the founding members of 229 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the New Jedi Council. Luke began having visions of the 230 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: future that she was not in, and she made him 231 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: promise to take care of their son if anything happened 232 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: to her. She was extremely protective of their son, especially 233 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: inland of the fact that he had cut himself off 234 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: of the force due to trauma as a baby. And 235 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: I am again glossing over so much here, But there 236 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: was this evil force that tried to drive Luke and 237 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: mar aparts, implying Marrow was the reason that the evil 238 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: force existed in the first place, and that she is 239 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: somehow was responsible for it that she somehow was responsible 240 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: for killing Luke's mother. However, it was all proven false, 241 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: but that didn't start yet another war from breaking out. 242 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: On top of that, Nay uncovered a recording of a 243 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: young Darth Vader slash ankin Skywalker strangling Luke's mom Padme 244 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Maara Jade was disturbed when her nephew Jason, who had 245 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: been like a mentor to Ben, didn't seem to see 246 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: anything wrong with Anakin's actions. Side note, Jason was picked up. 247 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I'll talk about more later, but oh boy, he performed 248 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: a mind wipe on Ben. He showed Luke a vision 249 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: of Maraa dying to try to turn him more to come, 250 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: but ultimately Luke puts his faith in Maraa and they persevered. 251 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: This time, though Maura was severely wounded. She was eventually 252 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: killed by her nephew Jason, who she'd realized was a 253 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: burgeoning sith Lord already a sith Lord probably by that point. 254 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: She decided he was too dangerous to live and ambushed him, 255 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: and it was really brutal battle ensued. She almost had him, 256 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: but he used the force to transform his face into 257 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: Ben's face, and her split second of hesitation was enough 258 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: for him to kill her. In her last moment, she 259 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: decided to leave her body behind instead of becoming one 260 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: with the Force, so her family would have something to 261 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: say goodbye to, but also so there would be evidence 262 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: about what had happened, and she used the Force to 263 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: whisper to Ben and ruffle Luke's hair all least time 264 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Jason interrupted her funeral, and when he did, she finally 265 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: became one with the Force. Her body disappeared. He interrupted him, 266 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: was like, I'm a darist depiciteboard now. Her force ghost 267 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: occasionally popped up, giving hints not only to her murder, 268 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: but to the evil doings people should be paying attention to. 269 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Her last words were you think you've won, but Luke 270 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: will crush you, and I refuse to let you destroy 271 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: the future. From my Ben Zon Timothy's on, the original 272 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: creator of mar Jade and the model mar j Aid 273 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: was based on, who did a lot of her like 274 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: book shoots were not tuppy, not happy, to say the 275 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: least with the decision to kill her off. No, it's 276 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: Zon actually said that he would come back and write 277 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: more and ignore that whole thing ever happened with her 278 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: in it. Ben became convinced Jason had killed his mother 279 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: and plotted revenge, even going so far as to sacrifice 280 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: innocence in his quest. Luke meanwhile, decided not to enact vengeance, 281 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and it was Jana, Jason's twin, who eventually killed Jason. 282 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: Luke and Ben went on a quest to figure out 283 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: why Jason fell. They encountered Mara's apparition, and she told 284 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: him she regretted going after Jason with the intent of 285 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: killing him. She even saved Luke from the afterlife basically 286 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: it's a long story, but basically from killing himself. She 287 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: told him that she loved him but didn't want to 288 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: see him for some time. And just a side note, 289 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: George Lucas was once asked why Luke didn't get a 290 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: romantic interest, and he said something like you haven't seen 291 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: the last three yet, implying that he would get one. 292 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: But he later decided that he didn't really like the 293 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: whole mar Jade Luke Skywalker romance, saying Luke doesn't get married. 294 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: There's a whole famous Robot Chicken behind the scenes skit 295 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: where he I hope is joking, threw a guy out 296 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: for implying he created mar Jade. So I was telling you, 297 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts. I tried not to 298 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: psychoanalyze George Lucas before this, but I think it has 299 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: to do with this thought some marriage, because Anakin marries 300 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: Padme and look what happened, and he was like, Luke 301 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that because he's a better Jedi. There's a 302 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: whole debate about, like the issue is not the romantic 303 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: attachment necessarily, but if you get married, there's kind of 304 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: like you have to put this person that's in the 305 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: vow as you put them first above everything else, and 306 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: the Jedi has to put the galaxy above everything else. 307 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: I could talk about that forever, but I've already been 308 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: going on and on about March, so I won't. All right, 309 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: I did want to end with like Luke and mar 310 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: Jade are a hot messed together. Okay, there's like this 311 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: whole Vader aspect where mar Jaide doesn't like Vader, never 312 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: comes around to Vader, and that's Luke's dad, and I 313 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: bet his force ghost is behind himself, like Luke, why 314 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: of everybody? Why there's the Emperor aspect who's literally telling 315 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: her to kill this person and looks kind of like, oh, I, 316 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Luke's always kind of being like, I'm so sorry for 317 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: what everything that happened to you. You don't have to 318 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: kill me. We can just work together, and she'll just 319 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: she's just like, oh, I can't wait to kill you, 320 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: like just kind of smiling at her, like, oh, you 321 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: don't have to do that. We don't do We can 322 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: figure this out. She calls him farm boy, which I 323 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: think is funny. I also think Eleyah and Luke, at 324 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: least in the Legends universe, are attracted to adventure and 325 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: excitement and competence. You can fight about that how you will, 326 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: but I think like somebody who's like really the they 327 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: view is able to keep up with them in a partner. 328 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: So I have a couple of quotes, and then we're 329 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: reaching the end. Mara said, Darling, I love you. You are 330 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: my life and my lights. If you ever do this 331 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: to me again, I will vape you where you stand. Luke, 332 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to discourage your curiosity, but I have 333 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: to remind you if something goes wrong, this is an 334 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: exceptionally embarrassing way to die. And then Luke says, I'll 335 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: trust you to improve the story. A friend of mar 336 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: Jade's once said, Mara once told me this one that 337 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: all it took to lift the Emperor's veil from her 338 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: eyes was a long walk in the forest with this 339 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: man that after she had come to know Luke Skywalker, 340 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: it was easy to step into the like. So it's 341 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: just fascinating to me because again, like they are chaos together, 342 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: such chaos, and it's like a lot of the things 343 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: where mar jaid there's sort of this quote blushing gride thing. 344 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: There's this she gets pregnant and it's really rough thing. 345 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: There's this she gets ill and it's sick all the time, 346 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: but she's never quite sidelined, like occasionally she did get 347 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: like really really sick at one point. It's like a 348 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: lot of stuff from the nineties I feel were this 349 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: way where it was a step forward in terms of 350 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: feminism and representation of women, but she was still like 351 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: the mom and the bride and all that kind of stuff. 352 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: But she was never quite even if she should have been. 353 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: There was a part where she was at least a 354 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: good stretch where she was very sick and probably should 355 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: not have been doing all she's doing. I don't know, 356 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting, Clearly I have a lot to say about it, 357 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: so much, a lot of smiles of yeh, it was fun. 358 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting it to be this fun, but it was. 359 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: I was so excited to share it. Lots of good 360 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: information and great quotes. Yes, the quotes. I was like, 361 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I gotta put this in there. I forgot about this anyway. 362 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you What's Samantha Listeners for 363 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: letting me just nerd my heart out in these. As always, 364 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts about this, if you have 365 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: any suggestions, you can let us know. 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