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Speaker 1: up from an Apple review, and we're like one, two, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly motivated. But yes, welcome, welcome Martenzi Johnson to
Speaker 1: one episode. Thank you so much for joining us. Man.
Speaker 4: No, it's pleasure. That was a flawless opening.
Speaker 5: Uh, I love every everything about that was not I
Speaker 5: was not prepared for that, but that flawless.
Speaker 1: Is it like working with espen?
Speaker 4: I never heard? So it's sounded like a pharmaceutical company.
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Speaker 5: We uh we we priced gouge and we take advantage
Speaker 5: of the less vulnerable in this country.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it sounds like it's like the new kind
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm allergic to cashews, so please please make
Speaker 1: sure you have it on hand. Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I heard Spike Lee once told you that you you
Speaker 1: are the future? Is this you know?
Speaker 5: Actually, I don't like to boast a lot. I don't
Speaker 5: want to be known as kind of a narcissist. But
Speaker 5: that one, I'm holding one to that for the rest
Speaker 5: of my life. It has not come out yet. I
Speaker 5: think it comes out probably next fall. But I was
Speaker 5: interviewed for the Colan Kaepernick documentary for being a Spike
Speaker 5: League uh directed, And so I got to go to
Speaker 5: Brooklyn and go to a studio and record with him.
Speaker 4: And I tell people this all the time.
Speaker 5: I want I want to I want to think that
Speaker 5: Spike new read all my work and was just so
Speaker 5: impressed that he said I think he just meant you
Speaker 5: as in, young people are the future of this but.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 3: But also I got to say, like an impressive turnaround
Speaker 3: between like I don't like to brag and then bragging.
Speaker 2: It's like on, it's up there with rappers, delight.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast,
Speaker 3: but we're like hot butter on breakfast toast like exactly,
Speaker 3: you know, from one sentence to the next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like it. I was like, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: this is it's just a disclaimer.
Speaker 2: You know, I believe Martenzi is the future.
Speaker 1: That's what he cated it, right, and he will lead
Speaker 1: the way you reach away. Yeah, I actually need to
Speaker 1: start taking that more literally because actually I was once
Speaker 1: in a group of like young people with like a
Speaker 1: state like senator and they're like, and you guys are
Speaker 1: the future. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I need
Speaker 1: to put that on my bio. I'm like, did you
Speaker 1: did y'all hear that about you?
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with me.
Speaker 1: I'm the future. I'm like, I barely have any stuff
Speaker 1: out right now, but you could tell that's crazy? Thank
Speaker 1: you something. Oh you know who actually said that? It was?
Speaker 1: It was actually a House of Representatives. It was Elijah
Speaker 1: Cummings who told like, this was I could tell no,
Speaker 1: this is like, which is wild civil rights icon Elijah Cummings.
Speaker 1: I remember, this is like when I was working in
Speaker 1: politics and it was like me and a group of
Speaker 1: young political activists, like consultant type people, and he's like,
Speaker 1: and you guys are the future. And I remember I
Speaker 1: should have like, I need to put that on my bio.
Speaker 1: Elijah Cummings, you are the future. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Elijah Commings. Anyway, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: I guess we should just start talking at the state
Speaker 1: of the Milwaukee Bucks, you know, Warren six over the
Speaker 1: last ten I'm like, is it is everything? Okay? It was?
Speaker 1: I was asking jab before this, I'm like, is this
Speaker 1: panic time or is this a doc Rivers bias?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh, let me let me just start by saying Jabari
Speaker 5: did not tell me we'd be talking to Bucks, and
Speaker 5: if he had to that I would not come on here.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 4: Uh he mentioned none of this, but uh, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not good. Uh it is the best way to put it.
Speaker 5: Like you said there two and five, I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: I got there. They weren't playing exactly great before, but
Speaker 5: at least the record was better. So before it was
Speaker 5: the process was bad, but the results were great, and
Speaker 5: now the results are bad, and according to people in Milwaukee,
Speaker 5: the process is great. I've missed some of the games,
Speaker 5: but like, if you're losing, I don't think the process
Speaker 5: is all that great. But for the game I saw
Speaker 5: last I don't remember. I think that was the Hornets, which, yeah, whatever, But.
Speaker 1: When we saw the nasty sham guy who's.
Speaker 4: Some respects is his name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know people like to pick on him, but
Speaker 5: uh yeah, he shows you can't.
Speaker 4: He's a real NBA player, just the fifteenth man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say, like, just just so I'm a
Speaker 3: Sixers fan. I remember when we exported James Harden to
Speaker 3: the Clippers. They had a rough start, and then the
Speaker 3: seventy six ERSNSS kind of washed off of him through repetition,
Speaker 3: and now they're one of the best teams in the league.
Speaker 3: So I will just say sometimes it takes a seventy
Speaker 3: six Ers export a couple reps to just like get
Speaker 3: the negative energy off of them. And so I would
Speaker 3: give yourself a little bit of time, maybe a couple
Speaker 3: more games, and then you're gonna go on like a
Speaker 3: wild winning streak.
Speaker 4: That's Is this a metaphor about Pat bit or Doc Rivers.
Speaker 2: The Doc Rivers doctor?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, I mean I remember the last
Speaker 3: time I was like, see when James Harden went there,
Speaker 3: I was like, see, it's he's not that.
Speaker 2: And then of course he's good. He's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I knew he was good. I knew he was good
Speaker 2: last season a counter.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen James Harden be great in the
Speaker 5: regular season, and then it's the same most story in
Speaker 5: the playoffs, So like, you know, wait until June before
Speaker 5: you completely buy into your theory that he watched all
Speaker 5: the seventy six ers off of him. But yeah, it's
Speaker 5: not great for the Bucks that you have to not
Speaker 5: only fire a coach midseason, but then hire a completely
Speaker 5: new one.
Speaker 4: I didn't even go to the interim route. There was like, no,
Speaker 4: we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Completely clean break yeah clean, Blake replaced everything with Doc Rivers,
Speaker 5: which I mean, obviously he's had success if you win
Speaker 5: championship in Nbaly, but so many people can say that.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I don't know how to
Speaker 5: put this other than I don't like his vibe.
Speaker 2: I believe Doc Rivers a few I don't.
Speaker 5: I just kidding, but I mean, even how he got
Speaker 5: here if you believe the athletics reporting, but if he can,
Speaker 5: if we can give it some.
Speaker 4: Time, seven games is not enough, I don't think.
Speaker 5: I mean, Adrian Griffin got thirties to my game, so
Speaker 5: you know, give it some time. But I didn't like
Speaker 5: what I saw in the beginning of the season, even
Speaker 5: when they went on that win streak with a lot
Speaker 5: of those time like one of the one of those
Speaker 5: games I believe was the one and Dame hit the
Speaker 5: game winner.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot to want more from this team.
Speaker 5: Obviously, the partnership of him and Dame, the health of
Speaker 5: christ Middleton, is brook Lopez still a defensive star.
Speaker 4: Wark, it's still a question.
Speaker 5: But if they have stability now, if the players believe
Speaker 5: in their coach, which it was clear even before they
Speaker 5: it felt like that they did not believe in Adrian Griffin,
Speaker 5: then actually there can be some optimism, but until then.
Speaker 4: It looks rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do love just talking about each each party believing
Speaker 3: in the other, right, I did love.
Speaker 2: This felt very.
Speaker 3: Familiar to me as a Sixers fan when Doc was
Speaker 3: like and I wouldn't wish this assignment on my worst enemy,
Speaker 3: having to coach this team. I mean, you didn't say
Speaker 3: it about you didn't say it about the team in particular.
Speaker 3: He was like having to pick up a new But
Speaker 3: it just felt like, I don't know, maybe I would
Speaker 3: be like, I'm getting to coach the best player in
Speaker 3: the world like this, and then like one of the
Speaker 3: most clutch players and greatest scorers of the past twenty years.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish that on my enemy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm waking up from a dream,
Speaker 3: like this is amazing.
Speaker 2: Uh And yeah, so I could see how that might
Speaker 2: like rub people the wrong way.
Speaker 3: But then sometimes maybe you need that initial like who
Speaker 3: does this man think he is to like get get
Speaker 3: all the energy right, so that they don't feel like
Speaker 3: they've got a coach that they can just like push
Speaker 3: around and cancel out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they, like you said, they sort of needed someone
Speaker 5: in charge before Adrian Griffin got fired. Giannis is there
Speaker 5: is on the bitch drawn up plays. We heard the
Speaker 5: reporting that he would just ignore whatever Adrian was telling
Speaker 5: him to do. He's arguing with the coach of when
Speaker 5: he goes in and out of the game, Bobby Portis,
Speaker 5: I believe snapped on him at least more than once,
Speaker 5: including at the nd season tournament. So it's like, if
Speaker 5: you don't have the respect of your players, despite they
Speaker 5: want in spite of that, so kudos to them, But
Speaker 5: if you don't have the respect of your players, like
Speaker 5: right now, it's fine it's the regular season, but you're
Speaker 5: gonna need that in a postseason. So maybe it was
Speaker 5: good that the Bucks cut bait already. But like I said,
Speaker 5: it's just bad vibes all around. For this team to
Speaker 5: have gotten to this point, to have gone through essentially
Speaker 5: three coaches and it's only.
Speaker 4: Been like eight months, it's just not good.
Speaker 1: Were you surprised how quickly they showed Adrian the door
Speaker 1: or were you like it's coming based on sort of
Speaker 1: what you're meeting, because I you know, like if the
Speaker 1: reporting also was true, was that it wasn't so much
Speaker 1: that they wanted him, They just didn't want Nick Nurse.
Speaker 1: So it was like, well, do you want anybody or
Speaker 1: just more like I can tolerate this coach and maybe
Speaker 1: from there that means the clock starts ticking because just
Speaker 1: that level of respect or you know whatever, just isn't
Speaker 1: there to have a team, you know, humming along.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I was only shocked by it because before Doc Rivers
Speaker 5: popped up, I didn't think that they would do the
Speaker 5: interim route, because you're essentially throwing the season away by
Speaker 5: doing that. Like Joe Frunt, Like, I mean, he's he's
Speaker 5: helped the Bucks a little in the past, but like
Speaker 5: he's not exactly championship coach. So I just assume they'll
Speaker 5: just ride it out and if things don't get better,
Speaker 5: if there's another first or second round exit, then okay
Speaker 5: and it's over.
Speaker 4: You can restart fresh.
Speaker 5: But I didn't think that they would do it misdseason
Speaker 5: because you'd be punching on the season.
Speaker 4: When came I was like, Okay, that makes more.
Speaker 5: Sense because he at least has a proven coach here,
Speaker 5: and I think you needed probably a championship for Eastern
Speaker 5: Western Conference championship caliber coach to do that, and so
Speaker 5: they got that. But no, I thought they would just
Speaker 5: write it out just for a simple fact.
Speaker 4: It's like, he's new. You all knew that, right. You
Speaker 4: knew that when when when.
Speaker 5: You hired him, when Giannis resigned, when you got Dame,
Speaker 5: you knew that you were dealing with a freshman coach,
Speaker 5: So like, why give up so easily if you knew
Speaker 5: that this was going to be your process.
Speaker 4: So that was the surprising part.
Speaker 5: But again, once I saw Doc River's name pop up
Speaker 5: as a possibility, I was like, oh, yeah, they're going
Speaker 5: with Doc, because you wouldn't fire someone if you didn't
Speaker 5: have a plan. At least I don't think.
Speaker 1: You right, right, especially with all these players that you've
Speaker 1: already you know, have in place, And yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: really waste time, but what about it?
Speaker 3: And it's actually impossible not to hire once you have
Speaker 3: the idea that we might hire Doc Rivers, it's actually
Speaker 3: impossible not to hire him.
Speaker 2: That's actually been proven. Yeah, it's like a Harry Potter thing, right, physics.
Speaker 1: I think. Now, what about Dame? Are you how are
Speaker 1: you feeling about Dame? I mean, you know, he has
Speaker 1: his moments, he also does really well and like in
Speaker 1: the postseason and things like that, But are you you know,
Speaker 1: what's your assessment so far? Does it feel like that
Speaker 1: was the right move and we just need to let
Speaker 1: it work out? Are you kind of be like?
Speaker 6: See, yeah, so I'm impartial to Drew Holliday because just
Speaker 6: watching him play defense for the last three years, Like,
Speaker 6: I don't think there's just anyone better as far as
Speaker 6: the point guard.
Speaker 5: To do it, So you don't want to give that up,
Speaker 5: right At the same time, is Dame literally like you.
Speaker 4: Kind of have to do it?
Speaker 5: And not to mention with Chris Middleton this injury aside
Speaker 5: recently like he's almost literally on his last legs and
Speaker 5: asn't seen this year, he's not capable of being the
Speaker 5: consistent number two score that he used to be and
Speaker 5: so that would have thrown Drew Holliday into that position
Speaker 5: and regular season aside, like Drew Ate that good at
Speaker 5: that in the playoffs and so you could run it
Speaker 5: back like you did last year and really the year
Speaker 5: before with Drew as or number two options. So they
Speaker 5: had to get someone if his Dame by all means now,
Speaker 5: does he leave some stuff to the imagination on the
Speaker 5: defensive side, Absolutely, And that's part of the problems that
Speaker 5: they're having here is he he does not try. I've
Speaker 5: seen him try it spurts, but most of the time
Speaker 5: he's not trying. So that impacts them a lot. And
Speaker 5: so the defense is not exactly terrible because they're the
Speaker 5: middle of the pack, but it's not what it's been
Speaker 5: for the last five years on a Bootenholzer.
Speaker 4: So that's not great.
Speaker 5: But at this point, with how he's playing defense, with
Speaker 5: how Bess playing defense again, I mentioned Brooke Loveez, who
Speaker 5: I thought was defense player a year last year didn't
Speaker 5: win it whatever, He's not that this year. People can
Speaker 5: score him at the at the rim with ease compared
Speaker 5: to what they used to. It's going to take Dame
Speaker 5: time all throughout the postseason for the Bucks to even
Speaker 5: have a chance, I think, because the defense ain't gonna
Speaker 5: be there. So at least score one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five points a game. That's all
Speaker 5: they got, and we've seen spurts of dame time. Obviously,
Speaker 5: the game winner, I think it gets the Kings if
Speaker 5: I recall correctly. But he's gonna need to do that
Speaker 5: day in day out once they get to April and May,
Speaker 5: because if not, if you thought it was bad last
Speaker 5: year losing in the first round to the AC, it'd
Speaker 5: be worse this year.
Speaker 1: Right, And I guess one word to describe Pat Beverly
Speaker 1: on the Bucks, Okay, and.
Speaker 2: There that was there worth, there was there was more
Speaker 2: of a sound utterance.
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be word. It could be an
Speaker 1: energetic you know, something that describes the feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: something abstract. And that was fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's two words.
Speaker 4: But game two, let me just see what he does
Speaker 4: in the second game. Yeah, rather than just running.
Speaker 5: Off the high of his debut the other night again
Speaker 5: against the Hornets.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but game hey, he was he was drawing
Speaker 1: up some plays like you know, he's in there. He's dedicated,
Speaker 1: so we'd like to see it.
Speaker 2: Should we should we take a break?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Back, we'll talk. We'll talk to some All Star weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot some things happening. I guess this
Speaker 1: All Star week Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 3: This is our hundredth episode on this you know, our
Speaker 3: hundredth episode feels appropriate to reflect on an equally impressive
Speaker 3: one hundred, the time Chamberlain scored one hundred in a
Speaker 3: single game. The sixty second anniversary's coming up, and just
Speaker 3: as nobody thought it was possible for a weekly basketball
Speaker 3: podcast make it to one hundred episode, yep, a lot
Speaker 3: of people didn't think a single NBA player would make
Speaker 3: it to one hundred. But the stuff that we like,
Speaker 3: there's a lot we don't know about that game, but
Speaker 3: I was, I was actually reading through the stuff we
Speaker 3: do know. There were four thousand people in attendance.
Speaker 2: Which is wild.
Speaker 3: It was just like half of the arena happened in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: The game held the record for most points scored by
Speaker 3: both teams is currently fourth all time and regulation points,
Speaker 3: and the Knicks started fouling other players to keep Wilt
Speaker 3: from scoring. It was like a reverse hack a shack
Speaker 3: where they would foul anyone else to keep the ball
Speaker 3: out of Wilt's hands. And yeah, they just like kind
Speaker 3: of decided they were going to do this at halftime.
Speaker 2: They were like this this is It was almost like
Speaker 2: they were they were so bored. Yeah, They're like, this
Speaker 2: is like do something. This was this would be fun.
Speaker 4: What you see as boredom, I see as.
Speaker 5: Uh they were like, I'll be damn if Will chamber
Speaker 5: scores one hundred points. I mean it didn't work, But
Speaker 5: because no one wants to be on the other side
Speaker 5: of a historic moment, this is Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 4: I have an example that iconic.
Speaker 5: Lob from uh Duane Wade to Lebron James. You know
Speaker 5: what team they were playing when they did that, now
Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 4: So I have to be when people were like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's the greatest photo ever. It happened.
Speaker 1: Like what Jersey said was in the background, just don't
Speaker 1: don't is Ai man there?
Speaker 2: You're like take out his legs. Yeah, I was saying.
Speaker 3: The Warriors were kind of doing it out like they
Speaker 3: were like, man, will Scott forty something, which isn't unheard of.
Speaker 3: What if like he scored one hundred, that'd be I mean,
Speaker 3: that'd be something. And it was like a huge deal.
Speaker 3: It did, like he was on the Ed Sullivan or
Speaker 3: one of those old guy shows, like the next night.
Speaker 3: It was like a big deal for basketball, like they started.
Speaker 1: It helped.
Speaker 3: I think NBC was thinking about canceling their contract and
Speaker 3: they were like, well, this is something.
Speaker 2: There's an actual star. He was only in his third year.
Speaker 3: Also, just a blend of like how impressive it is
Speaker 3: with how long ago it was. The starting center for
Speaker 3: the Knicks was out with quote influenza that was widely
Speaker 3: suspected to be a hangover.
Speaker 1: I love that kind of cover. He's out with influenza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry not to wow.
Speaker 2: With the old mad mad Men flew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, he played an every minute of seventy
Speaker 3: nine out of eighty games that season.
Speaker 2: Every minute.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's why they don't make them
Speaker 1: like they used to.
Speaker 2: Huh Hey, am I right, that's just wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hey if Will did it, man, what's your excuse? Man?
Speaker 1: Was seventy nine games without the help of modern medicine.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to put it in perspective, how impressive,
Speaker 3: what we've done. Yeah, is it is like Wilt's hundred
Speaker 3: point game? Really the equivalent in many ways. Historians are
Speaker 3: saying we.
Speaker 1: Will be honored at halftime. That's All Star Game. I
Speaker 1: know they're bringing us on the court and a three
Speaker 1: D holographic Wilt Chamberlain will be giving us an award. Say, fellas,
Speaker 1: you did something even I couldn't dream of. Congrats on
Speaker 1: one hundred. Anyway, Sorry to spoil, but look out for.
Speaker 3: What's everybody most excited abou about All Star weekend. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm excited about the glass court, the led glass Court.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that works. It's gonna look
Speaker 1: like a video game, That's what it is.
Speaker 5: Wild truly, I feel the same exact way. I'm looking
Speaker 5: very much to this led court and not much else.
Speaker 5: Maybe Steph Curry. I will be excited about Steph and Sabrina. Yes,
Speaker 5: Steph takes it seriously. Do not take it lightly on her.
Speaker 5: Treat her like a competitor. We want equality.
Speaker 1: Treat her like she can shoot too, because that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If he messes around, she's gonna come to play. I
Speaker 1: was watching her record breaking performance in the All Star
Speaker 1: Game for the WNBA, and I was like, if well,
Speaker 1: what's out. But it's funny you're talking about the dunk
Speaker 1: contest because we're like, okay, who's in the dunk Contest?
Speaker 1: We got Jalen Brown, we got Jacob Toppin, Haimi hawkas
Speaker 1: junior and returning champion Mac McClung of the Osciola Magic,
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait this. I'm like, he's in
Speaker 1: the G League. And then you know, I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that he was going between like the G League last
Speaker 1: year when he won. But it's wild, just like looking
Speaker 1: at this lineup. My first thing was like, look, I
Speaker 1: went to U c l A. I'm a big Heimi
Speaker 1: Hawkeys fan, and I'm like himing, what do you? What
Speaker 1: are you doing there?
Speaker 3: And then his game doesn't exploit his game does not
Speaker 3: suggest I want to see this man of the dunk conk.
Speaker 1: No, however, who put who put us on? Was that
Speaker 1: Jabarb's at you Jack? That was me.
Speaker 2: I had heard that there is I had heard tell.
Speaker 3: Of a high school dunk contest with him and Drake London,
Speaker 3: the NBA or NFL player Drake London and the.
Speaker 1: The dunks that Heimi Hawk has is hitting are I
Speaker 1: didn't realize. I was like, I'm sorry, I was as
Speaker 1: much as in the beginning, I was like, okay, we're fine.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, sir, you almost hit your face
Speaker 1: on the rim multiple times while jumping over people. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so he might reveal a new dimension
Speaker 1: to people in the league, so there's something there. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, would Jacob Topping. I'm like, you what,
Speaker 1: I'm again not familiar with his dunking prowess. I know
Speaker 1: his brother, you know, was in the.
Speaker 3: Legacy admission, but it's uh yeah, but nobody's actually seen
Speaker 3: him dunk. But just based on you know, his his
Speaker 3: work and his family's legacy, they're gonna they're gonna get
Speaker 3: let him give it a try.
Speaker 1: For a second, I thought Obi Toppin was what his
Speaker 1: real name was, Jacob and he was going by Obi
Speaker 1: at the end of Jacob to be Obie Topping, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, no, Ja Kobe, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Brown and Hawks there are two of the
Speaker 3: better players to have been in the dunk contest, So
Speaker 3: I mean, if they can bring something that would be
Speaker 3: pretty pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: I have feel like this will probably be like a
Speaker 1: very underrated dunk contest because, like I said, I was like,
Speaker 1: the second I saw Haimi Hawkins, I'm like, that's not
Speaker 1: that's not Hoimi hawk as his game. And then you
Speaker 1: like watch him in high school and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this kid just wanted to like he was throwing his
Speaker 1: body at the rim with reckless abandon and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if that kid shows up, then we're gonna see something interesting.
Speaker 1: Because he was one where.
Speaker 3: He jumps over somebody Windmills, loses the ball. I think
Speaker 3: he's like still growing and his hand isn't big enough,
Speaker 3: loses the ball and still like dunks it with his
Speaker 3: el like the inside of his elbow because he's up
Speaker 3: so hot.
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild, almost like shatters his orbital like his
Speaker 1: cheekbone on the rim. But yeah, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be It's gonna it's gonna be something. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you think Tyrese Haliburton will put on a show
Speaker 1: for the for the home fans over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been he's been looking Spike.
Speaker 1: He's been able to just little highlights more and more
Speaker 1: than these last couple of weeks, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: let's see let's see because.
Speaker 5: Himself recently he threw it off the glass like everyone
Speaker 5: else because he's like premiere point guard.
Speaker 4: At this point, he's like, no, I'm gonna get an
Speaker 4: assist out of his.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wide open corner.
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of you kind of break the
Speaker 1: matrix because you're like, oh, he went off the glass,
Speaker 1: usually to yourself to finish, but he's like, watch me
Speaker 1: break the form, dish it out to the corner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can, and I can.
Speaker 5: Be honest, I don't know about you all, Like it's impressive,
Speaker 5: but the most swaggerless value or self value have I
Speaker 5: ever seen in my life?
Speaker 4: Like I don't off the board. I don't want you
Speaker 4: to then pass the ball. The whole point is trace
Speaker 4: McGrady passed it all the way.
Speaker 5: If Kobe passed all the way, we would not be
Speaker 5: talking about it, you know what I'm saying, Like you're
Speaker 5: like six foot four, I imagine like dump the ball, you
Speaker 5: got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Although I kind of like because that we've been seeing
Speaker 3: off the backboard as like a move like this just
Speaker 3: being a casual move to like get get your dribble
Speaker 3: back essentially is like is interesting to me, Like what
Speaker 3: if this is just a new dimension in the game
Speaker 3: that people are opening up that it's like, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna throw it off the backboard to get,
Speaker 3: you know, for it, Like it's it's not that big
Speaker 3: a deal to throw it off the backboard, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like players like Chat and Wemby could probably
Speaker 1: exploit that very well for themselves, and it starts becoming
Speaker 1: a thing that you start watching like kids and like
Speaker 1: an under twelve year old league start doing because.
Speaker 3: They're just like a new dimension feeding somebody inside is
Speaker 3: You're just like throwing off the backboard to them, just
Speaker 3: like a wall ball pass.
Speaker 1: Who emerges victorious between East and West Martenzie.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go, Oh, they won't have him beat. I'll
Speaker 4: go West.
Speaker 5: I think with with no embiid And honestly, I don't
Speaker 5: know why Dame is starting, so yeah, I'll go I'll
Speaker 5: go with the West.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, two Bucks in the starting lineup? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: who would have thought, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know? And me watching it, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: Malie Beasley is playing in the three point contest. I
Speaker 1: was just watching that young man last year and it
Speaker 1: was not the same.
Speaker 5: This is a very napolist, like All Star game where
Speaker 5: you got a bunch of Bucks players running around here.
Speaker 4: It's in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: There will be no Joel and be slacking some it's
Speaker 5: not lacking in star power, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: but it's very very it's very who's yours All Star game?
Speaker 5: But yeah, I got the West, like Lebron and Steph
Speaker 5: Curry seem to take this seriously. Uh right, and so
Speaker 5: well Lebron when he plays the entire game.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, I.
Speaker 4: See more so the West, West and the East. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you're also like you're like Steph is
Speaker 1: on the bench, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like
Speaker 1: what I see coming off that bench too. Yeah for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Steph had, by the way, great game winner. Oh just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That was against Phoenix, right, yes, yeah was someone? Was
Speaker 1: it Booker or someone? After he's like, we should have known,
Speaker 1: you know, that's really on us, Like there's no.
Speaker 2: I mean they did though they overplayed him.
Speaker 3: The pass was like wild that he caught, Like it
Speaker 3: was like just kind of tossed out there. He it
Speaker 3: was like a scramble scramble for the ball. They like
Speaker 3: kind of threw a fifty to fifty ball up for
Speaker 3: grabs and then he went and got it, and yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: How it happened is Bradley Beal went for the steal,
Speaker 5: which for any other player, sure, but with Steph Curry,
Speaker 5: you run the king exactly what he did, like just
Speaker 5: man him up, like let him get the ball and
Speaker 5: then like at least put a hand in his face,
Speaker 5: but you blue past him and then this man again
Speaker 5: it's the most acrobatic, crazy shot you've ever seen in
Speaker 5: your life. But I don't want to leave it up
Speaker 5: the chance, Like I rather guard him than try and make.
Speaker 1: The steal, right, which yeah, and also it could a
Speaker 1: lot of good memories too, Seth the playing for the
Speaker 1: Hornets and in his dad's number thirty Jersey. It was
Speaker 1: a very heartening, heartening time for the Curry family. So
Speaker 1: good to see it, especially old heads like me when
Speaker 1: I was first being like, wow, Del Curry's kid is
Speaker 1: playing in the NBA. That's something I remember, Del Curry.
Speaker 4: And now because like Kenya Martin's kid is in it, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, I remember when your daddy
Speaker 1: broke his leg.
Speaker 2: All right, we should take a quick break.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back for the rapid fire round of
Speaker 3: questioning right back, and we're back. We're back, and MARTINSI,
Speaker 3: it is time to You've entered the fastest round of
Speaker 3: questioning in NBA podcasts period. So we're we're just gonna
Speaker 3: hit you up questions. Don't even think, don't even you know,
Speaker 3: it's just bing bang boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm sorry, is there smoke coming off of
Speaker 1: your screen because you're in the hot seat right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't know you understand?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I forget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're cooking right Miles.
Speaker 2: Do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: This is fast. Here we go. Yeah, I'm gonna go first, MARTINSI,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite All Star weekend moment or game there? Uh?
Speaker 4: Jason richardson winning the dunk cat Test. I believe in
Speaker 4: like two thousand, three thousand four. I don't remember which
Speaker 4: you one. Uh, it's just because that's the one that
Speaker 4: comes to mind quickly.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's just that's the dunk contest.
Speaker 5: This is the first thing that came you said, said, yeah,
Speaker 5: rapid fire, that's the first one.
Speaker 3: What was I can't even like picture one of his dunks.
Speaker 4: Did a reverse reverse respect?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Can you catch into a reverse. I want to say,
Speaker 5: I don't know which year it was, but I believe
Speaker 5: he did that.
Speaker 1: He did a few and yeah he went through the legs.
Speaker 1: He's I mean it was yeah. No, no, No, that's a
Speaker 1: good answer. That's a good answer.
Speaker 3: All right, What school yard game do you want to
Speaker 3: see added to the NBA All Star Game, All Star Weekend?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Like Pro Bowl does dodgeball and uh, you know, tug
Speaker 3: of war and stuff, but like a.
Speaker 4: Game.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you for this because it's a very
Speaker 5: Milwaukee thing. You might you guys might not know what
Speaker 5: it is. You ever heard of cans before?
Speaker 1: Cans can c A N C A N S No.
Speaker 2: So basically, you.
Speaker 5: Take a what a down soda cans, smash it and
Speaker 5: then you put it on the line and the other
Speaker 5: person puts it in a line, and then you try
Speaker 5: and throw the basketball and hit it. Uh, And the
Speaker 5: winner who hits it the most wins. It's a very
Speaker 5: Milwaukee thing that we do. I'm not great at it,
Speaker 5: but it just shows precision and your ability to hit
Speaker 5: a target.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's called cans.
Speaker 1: And so you have like a smush can on the
Speaker 1: line and then you're kind of throwing a basketball like
Speaker 1: you're throwing like bags kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like.
Speaker 5: Fifteen feet apart, and so you're just trying to throw
Speaker 5: it and hit the can in front of your opponent.
Speaker 4: You just do that back whoa.
Speaker 1: I'm watching there's like I'm seeing full on cans tournaments
Speaker 1: photos here. Okay, real thing, Okay.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we just leave it up to each individual
Speaker 3: All Star like City hosts right, to come up with
Speaker 3: what their local game is the people and just put
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars on it, and the players are going
Speaker 3: to be trying to kill each other to win it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Martenzi greatest Bucks player ever and most underrated Bucks
Speaker 1: player according to your fandom or just in general that
Speaker 1: people need to be regarding this person as the most
Speaker 1: underrated Bucks player.
Speaker 5: Uh, Giannis is the is the greatest Green. Obviously he's
Speaker 5: the better player overall, but most of that was with
Speaker 5: the Lakers, So I'll go with Giannis for that.
Speaker 4: The most underrated.
Speaker 5: H Williams uh d enough, he carried that team that
Speaker 5: was supposed to micro rigs after after Ray Allen left,
Speaker 5: so I would say, man Williams.
Speaker 2: Okay, Williams, but I.
Speaker 4: Got some more.
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham, okay, Darvin Ham. Yeah, we know him. I heard.
Speaker 1: You heard what I heard him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh Johnson him.
Speaker 1: We know, we know. He's the guy who broke the
Speaker 1: the He broke the backboard back of college, the backboard
Speaker 1: of Texas Tech. And I didn't hear anything after that.
Speaker 3: Well, Martinesse Johnson, what a pleasure having you. You've got
Speaker 3: a profile on Notre Dame's Hanna Hidalgo coming up, Wizard's
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Speaker 1: Follow you?
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Speaker 5: Yeah so andscape dot com for for my written content
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Speaker 1: All Star Game. So until then, take care, we'll see if.
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