1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The doctors wrong, the lawyers wrong, the fortune tellers wrong, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the psyche gigs wrong, wrong, the haters wrong. Because said what. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: It couldn't do it losers, Look at us, Look at us. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: It's episode one hundred of Jack on Matt Boosy's I 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: guess what today we are talking about All Star Weekend 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: because it kicks off on Friday, and we've got a 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: few new faiths in a few new places, and we're 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: gonna be breaking down the state of the bucks with 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: and escape. And I said almost said espens and ESPN's 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: done so nice. We're moving back here we go. They 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: said it couldn't be done because the host did not 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: know what ESPN was and ESPN Martesse Johnson on today's episode, 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm Miles. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is a mouth 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: and Jack got bot episode. 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: It okay here you're job driving, spinning. 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: From blocks. 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Got up with five? Is gonna try another three? Mister, 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: look on James to be honest, to tell God, look 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: out show time. Yes, oh man, what a time, What 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: a time. We're basking in the light of a century 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: of episodes. We couldn't have done it without you. Thank 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: you so much. For listening and bearing witness to the 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: greatness that is MOUs and jackob mad Boostie is We 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: really appreciate the love and support because we wouldn't have 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: gotten here without you that And. 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Are you saying like that we couldn't do it because 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: that is what motivated us exactly. 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: That's what we do. Push ups. We do two push 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: push ups in front of a quote that we printed 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: up from an Apple review, and we're like one, two, Yes, 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly motivated. But yes, welcome, welcome Martenzi Johnson to 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: one episode. Thank you so much for joining us. Man. 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: No, it's pleasure. That was a flawless opening. 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: Uh, I love every everything about that was not I 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: was not prepared for that, but that flawless. 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Is it like working with espen? 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 4: I never heard? So it's sounded like a pharmaceutical company. 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: It's great. 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: We uh we we priced gouge and we take advantage 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: of the less vulnerable in this country. 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, it sounds like it's like the new kind 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: of EPI pen. You like you got that pen? Yeah, 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm allergic to cashews, so please please make 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: sure you have it on hand. Yeah, I mean, look, 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I heard Spike Lee once told you that you you 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: are the future? Is this you know? 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 5: Actually, I don't like to boast a lot. I don't 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: want to be known as kind of a narcissist. But 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: that one, I'm holding one to that for the rest 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: of my life. It has not come out yet. I 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 5: think it comes out probably next fall. But I was 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: interviewed for the Colan Kaepernick documentary for being a Spike 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: League uh directed, And so I got to go to 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: Brooklyn and go to a studio and record with him. 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: And I tell people this all the time. 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: I want I want to I want to think that 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 5: Spike new read all my work and was just so 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 5: impressed that he said I think he just meant you 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: as in, young people are the future of this but. 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Me. 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: But also I got to say, like an impressive turnaround 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: between like I don't like to brag and then bragging. 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: It's like on, it's up there with rappers, delight. 66 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: but we're like hot butter on breakfast toast like exactly, 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: you know, from one sentence to the next. 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like it. I was like, you know, whatever, 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: this is it's just a disclaimer. 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, I believe Martenzi is the future. 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: That's what he cated it, right, and he will lead 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: the way you reach away. Yeah, I actually need to 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: start taking that more literally because actually I was once 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: in a group of like young people with like a 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: state like senator and they're like, and you guys are 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the future. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I need 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: to put that on my bio. I'm like, did you 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: did y'all hear that about you? 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with me. 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: I'm the future. I'm like, I barely have any stuff 82 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: out right now, but you could tell that's crazy? Thank 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: you something. Oh you know who actually said that? It was? 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: It was actually a House of Representatives. It was Elijah 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Cummings who told like, this was I could tell no, 86 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: this is like, which is wild civil rights icon Elijah Cummings. 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: I remember, this is like when I was working in 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: politics and it was like me and a group of 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: young political activists, like consultant type people, and he's like, 90 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: and you guys are the future. And I remember I 91 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: should have like, I need to put that on my bio. 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: Elijah Cummings, you are the future. Thank you so much. 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Elijah Commings. Anyway, welcome to the show. 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: I guess we should just start talking at the state 95 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: of the Milwaukee Bucks, you know, Warren six over the 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: last ten I'm like, is it is everything? Okay? It was? 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: I was asking jab before this, I'm like, is this 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: panic time or is this a doc Rivers bias? 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: Uh, let me let me just start by saying Jabari 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: did not tell me we'd be talking to Bucks, and 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: if he had to that I would not come on here. 103 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: For me. 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: Uh he mentioned none of this, but uh, yeah, it's 105 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: not good. Uh it is the best way to put it. 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: Like you said there two and five, I think, yeah, 107 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 5: I got there. They weren't playing exactly great before, but 108 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: at least the record was better. So before it was 109 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: the process was bad, but the results were great, and 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: now the results are bad, and according to people in Milwaukee, 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 5: the process is great. I've missed some of the games, 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: but like, if you're losing, I don't think the process 113 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: is all that great. But for the game I saw 114 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: last I don't remember. I think that was the Hornets, which, yeah, whatever, But. 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: When we saw the nasty sham guy who's. 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Some respects is his name. 117 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know people like to pick on him, but 118 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: uh yeah, he shows you can't. 119 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: He's a real NBA player, just the fifteenth man. 120 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say, like, just just so I'm a 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: Sixers fan. I remember when we exported James Harden to 122 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: the Clippers. They had a rough start, and then the 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: seventy six ERSNSS kind of washed off of him through repetition, 124 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: and now they're one of the best teams in the league. 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: So I will just say sometimes it takes a seventy 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: six Ers export a couple reps to just like get 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: the negative energy off of them. And so I would 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: give yourself a little bit of time, maybe a couple 129 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: more games, and then you're gonna go on like a 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: wild winning streak. 131 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 4: That's Is this a metaphor about Pat bit or Doc Rivers. 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: The Doc Rivers doctor? 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, I mean I remember the last 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: time I was like, see when James Harden went there, 135 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: I was like, see, it's he's not that. 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: And then of course he's good. He's really good. 137 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 138 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: I knew he was good. I knew he was good 139 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: last season a counter. 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen James Harden be great in the 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 5: regular season, and then it's the same most story in 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: the playoffs, So like, you know, wait until June before 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: you completely buy into your theory that he watched all 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: the seventy six ers off of him. But yeah, it's 145 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: not great for the Bucks that you have to not 146 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: only fire a coach midseason, but then hire a completely 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: new one. 148 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: I didn't even go to the interim route. There was like, no, 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna. 150 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: Completely clean break yeah clean, Blake replaced everything with Doc Rivers, 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: which I mean, obviously he's had success if you win 152 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: championship in Nbaly, but so many people can say that. 153 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I don't know how to 154 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: put this other than I don't like his vibe. 155 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: I believe Doc Rivers a few I don't. 156 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: I just kidding, but I mean, even how he got 157 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: here if you believe the athletics reporting, but if he can, 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: if we can give it some. 159 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: Time, seven games is not enough, I don't think. 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: I mean, Adrian Griffin got thirties to my game, so 161 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: you know, give it some time. But I didn't like 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 5: what I saw in the beginning of the season, even 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: when they went on that win streak with a lot 164 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 5: of those time like one of the one of those 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: games I believe was the one and Dame hit the 166 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: game winner. 167 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: So there's a lot to want more from this team. 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: Obviously, the partnership of him and Dame, the health of 169 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 5: christ Middleton, is brook Lopez still a defensive star. 170 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: Wark, it's still a question. 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: But if they have stability now, if the players believe 172 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: in their coach, which it was clear even before they 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: it felt like that they did not believe in Adrian Griffin, 174 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: then actually there can be some optimism, but until then. 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: It looks rough. 176 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 177 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: I do love just talking about each each party believing 178 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: in the other, right, I did love. 179 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: This felt very. 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Familiar to me as a Sixers fan when Doc was 181 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: like and I wouldn't wish this assignment on my worst enemy, 182 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: having to coach this team. I mean, you didn't say 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: it about you didn't say it about the team in particular. 184 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: He was like having to pick up a new But 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: it just felt like, I don't know, maybe I would 186 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: be like, I'm getting to coach the best player in 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: the world like this, and then like one of the 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: most clutch players and greatest scorers of the past twenty years. 189 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish that on my enemy. 190 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm waking up from a dream, 191 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,119 Speaker 3: like this is amazing. 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: Uh And yeah, so I could see how that might 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: like rub people the wrong way. 194 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: But then sometimes maybe you need that initial like who 195 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: does this man think he is to like get get 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: all the energy right, so that they don't feel like 197 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: they've got a coach that they can just like push 198 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: around and cancel out. 199 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they, like you said, they sort of needed someone 200 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: in charge before Adrian Griffin got fired. Giannis is there 201 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 5: is on the bitch drawn up plays. We heard the 202 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: reporting that he would just ignore whatever Adrian was telling 203 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: him to do. He's arguing with the coach of when 204 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 5: he goes in and out of the game, Bobby Portis, 205 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: I believe snapped on him at least more than once, 206 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 5: including at the nd season tournament. So it's like, if 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: you don't have the respect of your players, despite they 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: want in spite of that, so kudos to them, But 209 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: if you don't have the respect of your players, like 210 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: right now, it's fine it's the regular season, but you're 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 5: gonna need that in a postseason. So maybe it was 212 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: good that the Bucks cut bait already. But like I said, 213 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: it's just bad vibes all around. For this team to 214 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: have gotten to this point, to have gone through essentially 215 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: three coaches and it's only. 216 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: Been like eight months, it's just not good. 217 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Were you surprised how quickly they showed Adrian the door 218 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: or were you like it's coming based on sort of 219 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: what you're meeting, because I you know, like if the 220 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: reporting also was true, was that it wasn't so much 221 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: that they wanted him, They just didn't want Nick Nurse. 222 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: So it was like, well, do you want anybody or 223 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: just more like I can tolerate this coach and maybe 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: from there that means the clock starts ticking because just 225 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: that level of respect or you know whatever, just isn't 226 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: there to have a team, you know, humming along. 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. 228 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 5: I was only shocked by it because before Doc Rivers 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 5: popped up, I didn't think that they would do the 230 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: interim route, because you're essentially throwing the season away by 231 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: doing that. Like Joe Frunt, Like, I mean, he's he's 232 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 5: helped the Bucks a little in the past, but like 233 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 5: he's not exactly championship coach. So I just assume they'll 234 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: just ride it out and if things don't get better, 235 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: if there's another first or second round exit, then okay 236 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 5: and it's over. 237 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: You can restart fresh. 238 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: But I didn't think that they would do it misdseason 239 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: because you'd be punching on the season. 240 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: When came I was like, Okay, that makes more. 241 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: Sense because he at least has a proven coach here, 242 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 5: and I think you needed probably a championship for Eastern 243 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 5: Western Conference championship caliber coach to do that, and so 244 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: they got that. But no, I thought they would just 245 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 5: write it out just for a simple fact. 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: It's like, he's new. You all knew that, right. You 247 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: knew that when when when. 248 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: You hired him, when Giannis resigned, when you got Dame, 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 5: you knew that you were dealing with a freshman coach, 250 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 5: So like, why give up so easily if you knew 251 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 5: that this was going to be your process. 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: So that was the surprising part. 253 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 5: But again, once I saw Doc River's name pop up 254 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: as a possibility, I was like, oh, yeah, they're going 255 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: with Doc, because you wouldn't fire someone if you didn't 256 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: have a plan. At least I don't think. 257 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: You right, right, especially with all these players that you've 258 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: already you know, have in place, And yeah, you can't 259 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: really waste time, but what about it? 260 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: And it's actually impossible not to hire once you have 261 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: the idea that we might hire Doc Rivers, it's actually 262 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: impossible not to hire him. 263 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: That's actually been proven. Yeah, it's like a Harry Potter thing, right, physics. 264 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: I think. Now, what about Dame? Are you how are 265 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: you feeling about Dame? I mean, you know, he has 266 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: his moments, he also does really well and like in 267 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: the postseason and things like that, But are you you know, 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: what's your assessment so far? Does it feel like that 269 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: was the right move and we just need to let 270 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: it work out? Are you kind of be like? 271 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 6: See, yeah, so I'm impartial to Drew Holliday because just 272 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 6: watching him play defense for the last three years, Like, 273 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 6: I don't think there's just anyone better as far as 274 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 6: the point guard. 275 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 5: To do it, So you don't want to give that up, 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: right At the same time, is Dame literally like you. 277 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: Kind of have to do it? 278 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 5: And not to mention with Chris Middleton this injury aside 279 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: recently like he's almost literally on his last legs and 280 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: asn't seen this year, he's not capable of being the 281 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 5: consistent number two score that he used to be and 282 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 5: so that would have thrown Drew Holliday into that position 283 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: and regular season aside, like Drew Ate that good at 284 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: that in the playoffs and so you could run it 285 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: back like you did last year and really the year 286 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: before with Drew as or number two options. So they 287 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 5: had to get someone if his Dame by all means now, 288 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 5: does he leave some stuff to the imagination on the 289 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: defensive side, Absolutely, And that's part of the problems that 290 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: they're having here is he he does not try. I've 291 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: seen him try it spurts, but most of the time 292 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: he's not trying. So that impacts them a lot. And 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 5: so the defense is not exactly terrible because they're the 294 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: middle of the pack, but it's not what it's been 295 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: for the last five years on a Bootenholzer. 296 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: So that's not great. 297 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: But at this point, with how he's playing defense, with 298 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: how Bess playing defense again, I mentioned Brooke Loveez, who 299 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 5: I thought was defense player a year last year didn't 300 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: win it whatever, He's not that this year. People can 301 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: score him at the at the rim with ease compared 302 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: to what they used to. It's going to take Dame 303 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: time all throughout the postseason for the Bucks to even 304 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: have a chance, I think, because the defense ain't gonna 305 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: be there. So at least score one hundred and twenty 306 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five points a game. That's all 307 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: they got, and we've seen spurts of dame time. Obviously, 308 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: the game winner, I think it gets the Kings if 309 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 5: I recall correctly. But he's gonna need to do that 310 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 5: day in day out once they get to April and May, 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 5: because if not, if you thought it was bad last 312 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: year losing in the first round to the AC, it'd 313 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: be worse this year. 314 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Right, And I guess one word to describe Pat Beverly 315 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: on the Bucks, Okay, and. 316 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: There that was there worth, there was there was more 317 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: of a sound utterance. 318 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: It didn't have to be word. It could be an 319 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: energetic you know, something that describes the feeling, you know, 320 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: something abstract. And that was fine. 321 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's two words. 322 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: But game two, let me just see what he does 323 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: in the second game. Yeah, rather than just running. 324 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: Off the high of his debut the other night again 325 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: against the Hornets. 326 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, but game hey, he was he was drawing 327 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: up some plays like you know, he's in there. He's dedicated, 328 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: so we'd like to see it. 329 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Should we should we take a break? 330 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 331 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: Back, we'll talk. We'll talk to some All Star weekend. 332 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot some things happening. I guess this 333 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: All Star week Yeah. 334 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right and we're back. 335 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: We're back. 336 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: This is our hundredth episode on this you know, our 337 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: hundredth episode feels appropriate to reflect on an equally impressive 338 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: one hundred, the time Chamberlain scored one hundred in a 339 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: single game. The sixty second anniversary's coming up, and just 340 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: as nobody thought it was possible for a weekly basketball 341 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: podcast make it to one hundred episode, yep, a lot 342 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: of people didn't think a single NBA player would make 343 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: it to one hundred. But the stuff that we like, 344 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: there's a lot we don't know about that game, but 345 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: I was, I was actually reading through the stuff we 346 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: do know. There were four thousand people in attendance. 347 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: Which is wild. 348 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: It was just like half of the arena happened in Hershey, Pennsylvania. 349 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: The game held the record for most points scored by 350 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: both teams is currently fourth all time and regulation points, 351 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: and the Knicks started fouling other players to keep Wilt 352 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: from scoring. It was like a reverse hack a shack 353 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: where they would foul anyone else to keep the ball 354 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: out of Wilt's hands. And yeah, they just like kind 355 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: of decided they were going to do this at halftime. 356 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: They were like this this is It was almost like 357 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: they were they were so bored. Yeah, They're like, this 358 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: is like do something. This was this would be fun. 359 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 4: What you see as boredom, I see as. 360 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: Uh they were like, I'll be damn if Will chamber 361 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: scores one hundred points. I mean it didn't work, But 362 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: because no one wants to be on the other side 363 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: of a historic moment, this is Wilt Chamberlain. 364 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: I have an example that iconic. 365 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: Lob from uh Duane Wade to Lebron James. You know 366 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: what team they were playing when they did that, now 367 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Bucks. 368 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 4: So I have to be when people were like, oh, 369 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 4: it's the greatest photo ever. It happened. 370 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: Like what Jersey said was in the background, just don't 371 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: don't is Ai man there? 372 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: You're like take out his legs. Yeah, I was saying. 373 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: The Warriors were kind of doing it out like they 374 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: were like, man, will Scott forty something, which isn't unheard of. 375 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: What if like he scored one hundred, that'd be I mean, 376 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 3: that'd be something. And it was like a huge deal. 377 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: It did, like he was on the Ed Sullivan or 378 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: one of those old guy shows, like the next night. 379 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: It was like a big deal for basketball, like they started. 380 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: It helped. 381 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 3: I think NBC was thinking about canceling their contract and 382 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: they were like, well, this is something. 383 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: There's an actual star. He was only in his third year. 384 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: Also, just a blend of like how impressive it is 385 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: with how long ago it was. The starting center for 386 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: the Knicks was out with quote influenza that was widely 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: suspected to be a hangover. 388 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: I love that kind of cover. He's out with influenza. Yeah, 389 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: sorry not to wow. 390 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: With the old mad mad Men flew. 391 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, he played an every minute of seventy 392 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: nine out of eighty games that season. 393 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Every minute. 394 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's why they don't make them 395 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: like they used to. 396 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Huh Hey, am I right, that's just wild. 397 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hey if Will did it, man, what's your excuse? Man? 398 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Was seventy nine games without the help of modern medicine. 399 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: But I just wanted to put it in perspective, how impressive, 400 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 3: what we've done. Yeah, is it is like Wilt's hundred 401 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: point game? Really the equivalent in many ways. Historians are 402 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: saying we. 403 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Will be honored at halftime. That's All Star Game. I 404 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: know they're bringing us on the court and a three 405 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: D holographic Wilt Chamberlain will be giving us an award. Say, fellas, 406 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: you did something even I couldn't dream of. Congrats on 407 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: one hundred. Anyway, Sorry to spoil, but look out for. 408 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: What's everybody most excited abou about All Star weekend. I mean, 409 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm excited about the glass court, the led glass Court. 410 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that works. It's gonna look 411 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: like a video game, That's what it is. 412 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: Wild truly, I feel the same exact way. I'm looking 413 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 5: very much to this led court and not much else. 414 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: Maybe Steph Curry. I will be excited about Steph and Sabrina. Yes, 415 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: Steph takes it seriously. Do not take it lightly on her. 416 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: Treat her like a competitor. We want equality. 417 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Treat her like she can shoot too, because that's the thing. 418 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: If he messes around, she's gonna come to play. I 419 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: was watching her record breaking performance in the All Star 420 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: Game for the WNBA, and I was like, if well, 421 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: what's out. But it's funny you're talking about the dunk 422 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: contest because we're like, okay, who's in the dunk Contest? 423 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: We got Jalen Brown, we got Jacob Toppin, Haimi hawkas 424 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: junior and returning champion Mac McClung of the Osciola Magic, 425 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait this. I'm like, he's in 426 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: the G League. And then you know, I didn't realize 427 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: that he was going between like the G League last 428 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: year when he won. But it's wild, just like looking 429 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: at this lineup. My first thing was like, look, I 430 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: went to U c l A. I'm a big Heimi 431 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: Hawkeys fan, and I'm like himing, what do you? What 432 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: are you doing there? 433 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: And then his game doesn't exploit his game does not 434 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: suggest I want to see this man of the dunk conk. 435 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: No, however, who put who put us on? Was that 436 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: Jabarb's at you Jack? That was me. 437 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: I had heard that there is I had heard tell. 438 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: Of a high school dunk contest with him and Drake London, 439 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 3: the NBA or NFL player Drake London and the. 440 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: The dunks that Heimi Hawk has is hitting are I 441 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: didn't realize. I was like, I'm sorry, I was as 442 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: much as in the beginning, I was like, okay, we're fine. 443 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, sir, you almost hit your face 444 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: on the rim multiple times while jumping over people. And 445 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so he might reveal a new dimension 446 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: to people in the league, so there's something there. And 447 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: then I was like, would Jacob Topping. I'm like, you what, 448 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm again not familiar with his dunking prowess. I know 449 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: his brother, you know, was in the. 450 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: Legacy admission, but it's uh yeah, but nobody's actually seen 451 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 3: him dunk. But just based on you know, his his 452 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: work and his family's legacy, they're gonna they're gonna get 453 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: let him give it a try. 454 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: For a second, I thought Obi Toppin was what his 455 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: real name was, Jacob and he was going by Obi 456 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: at the end of Jacob to be Obie Topping, and 457 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, no, Ja Kobe, Yeah, yeah. 458 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: I mean Brown and Hawks there are two of the 459 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: better players to have been in the dunk contest, So 460 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if they can bring something that would be 461 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: pretty pretty exciting. 462 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: I have feel like this will probably be like a 463 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: very underrated dunk contest because, like I said, I was like, 464 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: the second I saw Haimi Hawkins, I'm like, that's not 465 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that's not Hoimi hawk as his game. And then you 466 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: like watch him in high school and I'm like, oh, 467 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: this kid just wanted to like he was throwing his 468 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: body at the rim with reckless abandon and I'm like, Okay, 469 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: if that kid shows up, then we're gonna see something interesting. 470 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Because he was one where. 471 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: He jumps over somebody Windmills, loses the ball. I think 472 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 3: he's like still growing and his hand isn't big enough, 473 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: loses the ball and still like dunks it with his 474 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: el like the inside of his elbow because he's up 475 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: so hot. 476 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: It's pretty wild, almost like shatters his orbital like his 477 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: cheekbone on the rim. But yeah, I think it's gonna 478 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: be It's gonna it's gonna be something. I mean, I 479 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: think you think Tyrese Haliburton will put on a show 480 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: for the for the home fans over there. 481 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's been he's been looking Spike. 482 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: He's been able to just little highlights more and more 483 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: than these last couple of weeks, and I'm like, well, 484 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: let's see let's see because. 485 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: Himself recently he threw it off the glass like everyone 486 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: else because he's like premiere point guard. 487 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: At this point, he's like, no, I'm gonna get an 488 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: assist out of his. 489 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, wide open corner. 490 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: I mean it kind of you kind of break the 491 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: matrix because you're like, oh, he went off the glass, 492 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: usually to yourself to finish, but he's like, watch me 493 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: break the form, dish it out to the corner. 494 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we can, and I can. 495 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: Be honest, I don't know about you all, Like it's impressive, 496 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: but the most swaggerless value or self value have I 497 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 5: ever seen in my life? 498 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: Like I don't off the board. I don't want you 499 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: to then pass the ball. The whole point is trace 500 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: McGrady passed it all the way. 501 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: If Kobe passed all the way, we would not be 502 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: talking about it, you know what I'm saying, Like you're 503 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 5: like six foot four, I imagine like dump the ball, you 504 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: got it. 505 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 506 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: Although I kind of like because that we've been seeing 507 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: off the backboard as like a move like this just 508 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 3: being a casual move to like get get your dribble 509 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: back essentially is like is interesting to me, Like what 510 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: if this is just a new dimension in the game 511 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: that people are opening up that it's like, yeah, and 512 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna throw it off the backboard to get, 513 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: you know, for it, Like it's it's not that big 514 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: a deal to throw it off the backboard, right. 515 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: I feel like players like Chat and Wemby could probably 516 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: exploit that very well for themselves, and it starts becoming 517 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: a thing that you start watching like kids and like 518 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: an under twelve year old league start doing because. 519 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: They're just like a new dimension feeding somebody inside is 520 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: You're just like throwing off the backboard to them, just 521 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: like a wall ball pass. 522 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Who emerges victorious between East and West Martenzie. 523 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go, Oh, they won't have him beat. I'll 524 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: go West. 525 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: I think with with no embiid And honestly, I don't 526 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 5: know why Dame is starting, so yeah, I'll go I'll 527 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 5: go with the West. 528 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, two Bucks in the starting lineup? Yeah yeah, 529 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: who would have thought, right? 530 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know? And me watching it, I'm like, wow, 531 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Malie Beasley is playing in the three point contest. I 532 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: was just watching that young man last year and it 533 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: was not the same. 534 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: This is a very napolist, like All Star game where 535 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: you got a bunch of Bucks players running around here. 536 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: It's in Indianapolis. 537 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 5: There will be no Joel and be slacking some it's 538 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: not lacking in star power, but you know what I mean, 539 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 5: but it's very very it's very who's yours All Star game? 540 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: But yeah, I got the West, like Lebron and Steph 541 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: Curry seem to take this seriously. Uh right, and so 542 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 5: well Lebron when he plays the entire game. 543 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: But so yeah, I. 544 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: See more so the West, West and the East. Yes, yeah, 545 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: I think too. 546 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you're also like you're like Steph is 547 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: on the bench, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like 548 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: what I see coming off that bench too. Yeah for sure, 549 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. 550 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: Steph had, by the way, great game winner. Oh just unbelievable. 551 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: That was against Phoenix, right, yes, yeah was someone? Was 552 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: it Booker or someone? After he's like, we should have known, 553 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, that's really on us, Like there's no. 554 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean they did though they overplayed him. 555 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: The pass was like wild that he caught, Like it 556 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: was like just kind of tossed out there. He it 557 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: was like a scramble scramble for the ball. They like 558 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: kind of threw a fifty to fifty ball up for 559 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: grabs and then he went and got it, and yeah, 560 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: you know. 561 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 5: How it happened is Bradley Beal went for the steal, 562 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: which for any other player, sure, but with Steph Curry, 563 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 5: you run the king exactly what he did, like just 564 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: man him up, like let him get the ball and 565 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: then like at least put a hand in his face, 566 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 5: but you blue past him and then this man again 567 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 5: it's the most acrobatic, crazy shot you've ever seen in 568 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: your life. But I don't want to leave it up 569 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: the chance, Like I rather guard him than try and make. 570 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: The steal, right, which yeah, and also it could a 571 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: lot of good memories too, Seth the playing for the 572 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: Hornets and in his dad's number thirty Jersey. It was 573 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: a very heartening, heartening time for the Curry family. So 574 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: good to see it, especially old heads like me when 575 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: I was first being like, wow, Del Curry's kid is 576 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: playing in the NBA. That's something I remember, Del Curry. 577 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: And now because like Kenya Martin's kid is in it, Like. 578 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, I remember when your daddy 579 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: broke his leg. 580 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: All right, we should take a quick break. 581 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: We'll be right back for the rapid fire round of 582 00:27:52,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: questioning right back, and we're back. We're back, and MARTINSI, 583 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: it is time to You've entered the fastest round of 584 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: questioning in NBA podcasts period. So we're we're just gonna 585 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 3: hit you up questions. Don't even think, don't even you know, 586 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: it's just bing bang boom. 587 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm sorry, is there smoke coming off of 588 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: your screen because you're in the hot seat right now? Yeah, 589 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know you understand? 590 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: Sorry, I forget. 591 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're cooking right Miles. 592 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Do you want to kick us off? 593 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: All right? 594 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: This is fast. Here we go. Yeah, I'm gonna go first, MARTINSI, 595 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: what is your favorite All Star weekend moment or game there? Uh? 596 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: Jason richardson winning the dunk cat Test. I believe in 597 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: like two thousand, three thousand four. I don't remember which 598 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: you one. Uh, it's just because that's the one that 599 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: comes to mind quickly. 600 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Wow, that's just that's the dunk contest. 601 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 5: This is the first thing that came you said, said, yeah, 602 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: rapid fire, that's the first one. 603 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: What was I can't even like picture one of his dunks. 604 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: Did a reverse reverse respect? 605 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 606 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 5: Can you catch into a reverse. I want to say, 607 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: I don't know which year it was, but I believe 608 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: he did that. 609 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: He did a few and yeah he went through the legs. 610 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: He's I mean it was yeah. No, no, No, that's a 611 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: good answer. That's a good answer. 612 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: All right, What school yard game do you want to 613 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: see added to the NBA All Star Game, All Star Weekend? 614 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Uh? 615 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: Like Pro Bowl does dodgeball and uh, you know, tug 616 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: of war and stuff, but like a. 617 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: Game. 618 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you for this because it's a very 619 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: Milwaukee thing. You might you guys might not know what 620 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 5: it is. You ever heard of cans before? 621 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Cans can c A N C A N S No. 622 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: So basically, you. 623 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 5: Take a what a down soda cans, smash it and 624 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: then you put it on the line and the other 625 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 5: person puts it in a line, and then you try 626 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 5: and throw the basketball and hit it. Uh, And the 627 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: winner who hits it the most wins. It's a very 628 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: Milwaukee thing that we do. I'm not great at it, 629 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: but it just shows precision and your ability to hit 630 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: a target. 631 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's called cans. 632 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: And so you have like a smush can on the 633 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: line and then you're kind of throwing a basketball like 634 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: you're throwing like bags kind of thing. 635 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like. 636 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: Fifteen feet apart, and so you're just trying to throw 637 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: it and hit the can in front of your opponent. 638 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: You just do that back whoa. 639 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching there's like I'm seeing full on cans tournaments 640 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: photos here. Okay, real thing, Okay. 641 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: I love that. 642 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we just leave it up to each individual 643 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: All Star like City hosts right, to come up with 644 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: what their local game is the people and just put 645 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars on it, and the players are going 646 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: to be trying to kill each other to win it, 647 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 3: you know. 648 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Martenzi greatest Bucks player ever and most underrated Bucks 649 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: player according to your fandom or just in general that 650 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: people need to be regarding this person as the most 651 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: underrated Bucks player. 652 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 5: Uh, Giannis is the is the greatest Green. Obviously he's 653 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 5: the better player overall, but most of that was with 654 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: the Lakers, So I'll go with Giannis for that. 655 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: The most underrated. 656 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 5: H Williams uh d enough, he carried that team that 657 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: was supposed to micro rigs after after Ray Allen left, 658 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 5: so I would say, man Williams. 659 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Williams, but I. 660 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 4: Got some more. 661 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham, okay, Darvin Ham. Yeah, we know him. I heard. 662 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: You heard what I heard him? 663 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 664 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 665 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: Uh Johnson him. 666 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: We know, we know. He's the guy who broke the 667 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: the He broke the backboard back of college, the backboard 668 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: of Texas Tech. And I didn't hear anything after that. 669 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 3: Well, Martinesse Johnson, what a pleasure having you. You've got 670 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: a profile on Notre Dame's Hanna Hidalgo coming up, Wizard's 671 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: Rookie blall Coolabali coming up for Anscape? 672 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: Where else can people find you? 673 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Follow you? 674 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: All they could stuff? 675 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: Yeah so andscape dot com for for my written content 676 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 5: of what you just mentioned. On Twitter, I don't call 677 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 5: it x one than Johnson, and then on Instagram my 678 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 5: first name Martins m A R T E and z 679 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 5: I E J. 680 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: There y'all, hey, all right, Well you can find me 681 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: on Twitter at Jack underscore O Brian Miles. 682 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: How about you? You can find me at Miles of 683 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Gray on Twitter because in this house we believe it 684 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: is called Twitter and not x uh. And you can 685 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: also follow hashtag mad Boosty's b dow s t I 686 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: E s for show links and updates and even more 687 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, just stay up to 688 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: date with the story tale of this podcast, the one 689 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: they say just couldn't keep going, and yet we do, 690 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: Yet we persistent. All right, y'all, we'll see you next 691 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: week where we're definitely going to be talking about the 692 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: All Star Game. So until then, take care, we'll see if. 693 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Bye bye,