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Speaker 3: Thank you, mister Chairman, Mister Bottel. I think everything that

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Speaker 4: Have a political tent to them. I voted for Christopher Ray.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's probably going to disappoint.

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Speaker 3: The audience to hear what I'm about to say, those

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Speaker 5: Welcome to continuing coverage General America's Voice. An incredibly busy newsday,

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Speaker 5: as you already know, I'm sure we're following the flight

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Speaker 5: Sixty four people killed on that flight, three in the helicopter.

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Speaker 6: Lastly, we will have a human performance group, and this

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Speaker 7: They will study the crew.

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Speaker 7: Now we're going to take a few questions, but I

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Speaker 8: James, So we today talking about guy hiving quality. I'm

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Speaker 10: Would you'd like to take this as part of any investigation,

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Speaker 6: The question was, is there been human error or mechanical failure?

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Speaker 5: So with NBC News, does it hurt your investigative process,

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Speaker 3: Have a president alreadys suggesting possible causes.

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Speaker 4: Were there any performance these.

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Speaker 7: It'll be a long.

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Speaker 10: The question was about my briefing for the President and

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Speaker 4: Give me your first reaction.

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Speaker 4: Together the pieces of this puzzle.

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Speaker 4: It seems to be a combination of things. These air

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Speaker 5: They're usually a combination of things, but the human factor

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Speaker 9: Something certainly the NTSB is going to be looking into.

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Speaker 4: All of the above to ensure that this does not happen.

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Speaker 5: You know, let me ask you this, because for people

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Speaker 9: But you know, the same standards for professional aviators in

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Speaker 5: Professor, I appreciate your expertise and coming on in short

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Speaker 5: In the wake of that tragic midair collision last night

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Speaker 7: A real winner.

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Speaker 13: That's the guy. He's a real winner. Do you know

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Speaker 7: He's a disaster. He was a disaster as a mayor.

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Speaker 13: He ran his city into the ground, and he's a

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Speaker 7: He's just got a good line of both.

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Speaker 13: The Department of Transportation, his government agency charged with regulating

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Speaker 5: Terrible now as you can imagine a lot of anger

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Speaker 4: A first day on the job. Joining me is Brian Glenn.

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Speaker 5: He was there for Trump's from Marx Brian, good afternoon,

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Speaker 5: an incredibly busy newsday.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about it.

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Speaker 5: In the break, but for Donald Trump to come out,

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Speaker 5: he was the consoler in chief today.

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Speaker 4: And here I want to point out a couple of things.

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Speaker 5: First of all, Defenser Day, Pete Hegseth came out and

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Speaker 5: directly addressed this situation from his desk. Donald Trump comes

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Speaker 5: out directly from the podium. And this is something we

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Speaker 5: have not seen for the last four years. This is

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Speaker 5: a departure, and a good departure for being told a

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Speaker 5: lot of things from the podium that we were not

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Speaker 4: It's a big difference, isn't it. It is?

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Speaker 11: And that's all I've been hearing the last week or

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Speaker 11: so is just how transparent this administration has been. I

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Speaker 11: keep hearing it every time I step in the briefing room.

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Speaker 11: They say, it's never been like this. No one's ever

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Speaker 11: been so clear on what they how they feel, and

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Speaker 11: what they're going to do. Then the Trump administration, and

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Speaker 11: I don't I think the legacy media. You know today

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Speaker 11: we were talking a little bit in the break about this.

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Speaker 7: The legacy media.

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Speaker 11: Seems to think they know more about every single story

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Speaker 11: than the people actually investigating or knowing all of the

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Speaker 11: details about this story. It's discussing the way and you

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Speaker 11: heard some of the responses that they pushed back, uh

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Speaker 11: Steve on the DEI, they from what I understand, Brian

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Speaker 11: Well have a good point here to support what Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump said.

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Speaker 5: From the point about DEEI, there are numerous videos of

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Speaker 5: people from that agency online saying that's exactly what they're doing,

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Speaker 5: that they are changing the standards because they had all

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Speaker 5: of these applicants.

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Speaker 4: There was a class action lawsuit by nine hundred.

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Speaker 5: White applicants because they were rejected for the job even

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Speaker 5: though their scores were better than others.

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Speaker 4: This is not a revelation. It's just Donald.

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Speaker 5: Trump telling the truth about something that's been ongoing for

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Speaker 5: a while now. Did it play into this to this

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Speaker 5: problem today. We don't know that yet, but for him

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Speaker 5: to point it out is on the money. Go ahead, No,

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Speaker 5: you're right.

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Speaker 11: You know, he just says it's he's suggesting it. You know,

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Speaker 11: they should be looked at, that's all. But to see

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Speaker 11: him fight this narrative so much as they do, which

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Speaker 11: could only I can interpret that as being.

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Speaker 4: This they are more they're more.

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Speaker 11: Concerned about making sure they have gay, lesbian, and all

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Speaker 11: this other diversity in the job than simply having the

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Speaker 11: best people to do the job. And President Trump has

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Speaker 11: said time and time again he is does not He

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Speaker 11: is not concerned about race, gender, age, anything religious background.

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Speaker 11: He wants the best of the best. And as far

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Speaker 11: as the legacy media is concerned, that doesn't matter. They

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Speaker 11: still want to be as diverse as ever, even if

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Speaker 11: it becomes tragic as it could have been. One of

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Speaker 11: the reasons why we saw the accident last night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to keep an eye on that part

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Speaker 5: of the story for sure. And for Sean Duffy, what

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Speaker 5: a rough way to start your tenure is a transportation secretary. Now, look,

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Speaker 5: we can go back and look at the absence of

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Speaker 5: Pete Boodage judge when it came to that train wreck

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Speaker 4: Bridge in Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: As I recall, you've seen all of these things happen, yea,

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Speaker 5: and none of them good. So Sean Duffy has a

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Speaker 5: huge job in front of him, and this is day one.

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Speaker 4: Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I love the fact that he is going

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Speaker 11: to be just as transparent as President Trump and of

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Speaker 11: course the whole administration. But you know, also, mind you, Steve,

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Speaker 11: this is the second aviation crash that we have seen

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Speaker 11: from our military in the last three days. He had

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Speaker 11: the F thirty five jet going down in SrAl Alaska.

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Speaker 11: That was a training mission. Of course, gladly that the

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Speaker 11: pilot ejected himself so he was injured.

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Speaker 4: And then of course you have.

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Speaker 11: This last night, so you have to almost think what's

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Speaker 11: going on in our military right now? I know you've

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Speaker 11: visuals distancing that between the Blackhawk and the CRJ seven

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Speaker 11: hundred American Eagle jet that was coming in by the way,

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Speaker 11: that runway number one there at DCA is the busiest

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Speaker 11: airstrip in the country. Over eight hundred flights take off

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Speaker 11: and land there each day. That flight last night was

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Speaker 11: the land on runway three to three, just one hundred

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Speaker 11: and fifty miles an hour, two hundred feet off the ground.

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Speaker 4: Tragic story.

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Speaker 7: But is DEI responsible for these two incidents.

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Speaker 11: We don't know, but we're so glad the Trump administration

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Speaker 11: is going to look into it. And what he said also, Steve,

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Speaker 11: which is intercing pot Now we're not gonna have to

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Speaker 11: wait three to five years before an investigation concludes itself.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna find out sooner than later, which is good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's truly a well they're screaming racism on

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Speaker 5: the other side, it's about lowering standards. That's the point

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Speaker 5: something that it is not. It's about standards and having

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Speaker 5: it gets critical. Brian Glenn, thank you for your reporting

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Speaker 5: us always. We'll talk soon, yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 4: All right. It's a new day in America and a

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma is going in the right direction requiring parents to

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Speaker 5: show their kids citizenship. We'll talk about it next. We'll

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Speaker 5: on everything. The Oklahoma State Board approved a proposal Tuesday

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Speaker 5: requiring parents to report their immigration status or proof of citizenship.

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Speaker 5: The rule would not stop children from going to school

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Speaker 5: based on their legal status, but it is a big change,

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Speaker 16: Thank you for having me back. And you're right there,

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Speaker 16: one story after another. There's change coming. You can feel it.

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Speaker 16: In America. Everything is a new day every day.

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Speaker 5: And look, what do you make of this idea in

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma that you have to declare your citizenship. It's not

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Speaker 5: going to impact with your kid is in school or not.

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Speaker 5: What is it going to stand the test of the courts?

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 16: I think you have to and I think you have

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Speaker 16: to challenge it all to the Supreme Court again in

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Speaker 16: the State. I just want they're just getting biographical data.

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Speaker 16: What's wrong with that? And what's wrong with having or

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Speaker 16: removing six thousand students from your student population that need

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Speaker 16: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, whereas that money should

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Speaker 16: be going to US citizens and legal residents that come

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Speaker 16: to get back to some semblance of reality and we

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Speaker 16: have finite resources. We can't educate the world, It's impossible.

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Speaker 16: So why would we begin to act as if we

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Speaker 16: on every level.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you look at what's happening, and you look at

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Speaker 5: the schools JJ and we don't have a lot of

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Speaker 5: time to be You look at the schools where you

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Speaker 5: have this massive influx of people from whatever country, legal

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Speaker 5: especially in smaller districts, are.

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Speaker 4: Focused in an attempt to.

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Speaker 4: And that's said, I'll give you the last word. This

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Speaker 16: And all of our resources, all our time and treasure

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Speaker 16: But until then, no all bets are off. This is

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Speaker 7: JJ.

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Speaker 4: Always appreciate your comments, sir, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 5: about nine o'clock last night. As you know, sixty seven

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Speaker 5: people lost, sixty four on that airplane. Three more of

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Speaker 5: the crew of that Blackhawk helicopter. Join me now is

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Speaker 5: aviation security at Airport Management expert, author and professor at

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Speaker 5: Metropolitan State University, Jeff Price, Professor, Thank you for being

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Speaker 5: here today. We're trying to figure out exactly what has

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Speaker 5: happened here. Obviously it's a catastrophic failure. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if it's a failure of the pilots or of ground control.

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Speaker 5: Your first blush is you saw this story unfold. You're

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Speaker 5: an expert in the field, what are your thoughts.

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Speaker 14: Typically with an accident like this, there's usually no one

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Speaker 14: element that's at fault. It's called the accident chain, and

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Speaker 14: it usually starts with one particular incident followed by another,

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Speaker 14: followed by another, a series of incidents which eventually led

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Speaker 14: up to disaster.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's too early to really point fingers a.

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Speaker 14: Blame at anybody at this point because we really just

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Speaker 14: don't know what happened, and we don't know what in

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Speaker 14: that accident chain might have occurred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's early in the investigation. We do know though

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Speaker 5: it's become a recovery operation. Nobody knows survivors expected. That's

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Speaker 5: been true for some time. As you look at this,

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Speaker 5: people are asking questions like this, and this is a

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Speaker 5: simple question for a novice like myself.

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Speaker 4: I am not a pilot.

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Speaker 5: I'm not an expert in the field, but I know

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Speaker 5: that when I drive down the highway, my suburban corrects

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Speaker 5: me in the lane. It avoids collisions.

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Speaker 4: My car does that.

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Speaker 5: Don't planes have the same sort of technology to prevent

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Speaker 5: this sort of tragedy from occurring.

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Speaker 1: Some aircraft do.

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Speaker 14: Some aircraft will have warning systems to let the pilot

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Speaker 14: know that there is another aircraft out there, or an

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Speaker 14: obstruction like a mountain if they're flying too low. The

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Speaker 14: warning systems sometimes allow the pilot to take some sort

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Speaker 14: of action. Other times it'll take the action itself. In

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Speaker 14: the more complex systems, but the terrain collision avoidant systems,

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Speaker 14: or TEA casts is what they're called, are primarily there

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Speaker 14: to warn the pilot and let the pilot take the

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Speaker 14: appropriate action, rather than the aircraft trying to do a

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Speaker 14: lot of calculations to figure out where the plane should move.

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Speaker 1: The pilot can look out the window.

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Speaker 14: Pilot can look at the TEA CASS technology and the

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Speaker 14: aircraft and go, here's the plane. Here's the best move

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Speaker 14: that I can make to avoid that collision, so.

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Speaker 4: As we as they do the recovery.

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Speaker 5: Now I understand the plane CRJ seven hundred, the regional

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Speaker 5: jet from American Eagle, is in three main pieces in

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Speaker 5: the water. Another part of the problem might be that

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Speaker 5: the water was shallow where the jet came down very fast.

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Speaker 5: More water may have given it more of a cushion

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Speaker 5: for some hope of survival that didn't happen. But how

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Speaker 5: important is it now that they do sonar of the

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Speaker 5: way the debris field is trying to evaluate how these

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Speaker 5: who aircraft collided, the black Hawk and this regional jet.

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Speaker 5: How important is that in the investigation going forward?

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Speaker 1: Definitely important.

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Speaker 14: One of the challenges you'll have in the Potomac River,

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Speaker 14: anya river is you have the flow and it's going

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Speaker 14: to pick up debris, it'll pick up victims, and it'll.

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Speaker 1: Move them down river.

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Speaker 14: So it's the accident seeing the recovery area is not

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Speaker 14: really just those three main areas potentially, but it could

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Speaker 14: be more areas as this debris floats down the river.

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Speaker 1: Are seen them.

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Speaker 5: Now I understand that the river is going to scatter

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Speaker 5: the debris field and possibly the victims. That makes sense,

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Speaker 5: and obviously the Potomac in its location, you get tied effect.

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Speaker 4: Too, I believe in that estuary. What would be your.

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Speaker 5: Most pressing question here as you look at this I

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Speaker 5: understand it was a training mission. The pilots in the

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Speaker 5: black Hawk may have been operating with night vision gear

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Speaker 5: and not well they're blacked.

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Speaker 4: Out is what the first reports were.

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Speaker 5: And they were operating and doing the training mission for

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Speaker 5: annual certification, if you will, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 5: what would be your most pressing questions on the front

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Speaker 5: end of this investigation?

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Speaker 14: My main question is if the Blackhawk pilots had the

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Speaker 14: aircraft in sight, why did they not take action to

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Speaker 14: avoid the collision?

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Speaker 1: And there could be numerous answers to that.

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Speaker 14: They might have had another aircraft in sight, they might

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Speaker 14: have had lights on the ground in sight, a light

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Speaker 14: polluted area around there, and I fly into an out

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Speaker 14: of ragon a lot, and it can be very easy

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Speaker 14: to mistake in one item or one aircraft or one

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Speaker 14: light for something else. So I think that's my key question.

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Speaker 14: Did they have the aircraft in sight? And if they did,

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Speaker 14: why didn't they take the evasive action to which there

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Speaker 14: could even be more answers, everything from mechanical failure to

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Speaker 14: pilot reaction times.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've already seen on the internet on social

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Speaker 5: media the radar returns. We have heard the conversations between

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Speaker 5: the tower and the jet. It didn't seem that the

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Speaker 5: helo was the helicopter was responding to the conversations.

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Speaker 4: And the little snippets that I heard online.

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Speaker 5: Of course, that's just social media will take that for

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Speaker 5: what it's worth, but it's not a complete picture. But

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Speaker 5: what about the controllers. I understand that there's a system

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Speaker 5: where a controller can talk to a plane that's farther out,

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Speaker 5: but when it comes into, prepares to land, when it's

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Speaker 5: in final approach, and so forth, they will hand off.

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Speaker 5: If that makes sense, one controller will hand off to

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Speaker 5: the next. Is that possible that there was a handoff

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Speaker 5: going on or something of that nature, and maybe on

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Speaker 5: the ground there was a mistake made. It seems to

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Speaker 5: me human error is going to be the bottom line

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Speaker 5: here most likely, but I don't know where.

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Speaker 4: It lies.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, And that's the challenge.

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Speaker 14: All the airspace is divided up into sectors, and you'll

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Speaker 14: have air traffic controllers that have certain sectors of airspace,

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Speaker 14: certain blocks of airspace that they have control over, and

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Speaker 14: they will hand off as one aircraft moves from their

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Speaker 14: airspace to another. Typically, when you're on final approach, you're

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Speaker 14: being handed off from approach control to the local tower.

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Speaker 14: That can take place a few miles away from the

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Speaker 14: runway where that switchover occurs. It's part of the normal

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Speaker 14: activity that happens during that switchover, So that'll be part

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Speaker 14: of the investigation of courses when that took place. Was

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Speaker 14: there a positive transition of that control so that the

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Speaker 14: pilot acknowledged that now they are now on a different

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Speaker 14: frequency that they're supposed to be on.

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Speaker 1: So they'll take a look at those measures as well.

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Speaker 4: Professor Gretlie, appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 5: Professor Jeff Price, Metropolitan State University in Denver, thank you

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Speaker 5: for sharing your expertise here today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having I appreciate.

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Speaker 5: It all right, Well, keep an eye on flight fifty

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Speaker 5: three forty two. In the aftermath, we'll be right back

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Speaker 5: on Real America's voice. It's been a tough day, so

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Speaker 5: we want to leave you with something that makes you smile.

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Speaker 5: What makes America wonderful? We do this today to put

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Speaker 5: a smile in your face, no matter how tough today

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Speaker 5: has been. To remind you how great this country truly is.

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Speaker 5: How about this a giant pod of fifteen hundred or

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Speaker 5: so dolphins spotted off the coast of California of marine

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Speaker 5: biologists in AWE. Typically these dolphins travel in smaller pods

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Speaker 5: of just ten or twenty, maybe thirty, but.

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Speaker 4: Not this big.

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Speaker 5: The unexpected event unfolded during a routine trip by Monterey

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Speaker 5: Bay Whale Watch, originally planned.

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Speaker 4: To track migrating gray whales.

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Speaker 5: Researchers and passengers the board were stunned as the ocean

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Speaker 5: came alive with hundreds of dolphins leaping, swimming, playing around

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Speaker 5: their boat.

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Speaker 4: Talk about a good time. The pod is incredibly rare.

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Speaker 5: Scientists still trying to figure out why these dolphin pods

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Speaker 5: a super pod, whether it came together for feeding, social

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Speaker 5: was it like a class reunion Thererisso's dolphin, with their

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Speaker 5: distinctive white scars and blunttheads, created an unforgettable scene as

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Speaker 5: they surfed waves and swam in priven harmony. What makes

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Speaker 5: a Verica wonderful is the wonders of the world that

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Speaker 5: even we humans still can't even begin to imagine, and

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Speaker 5: even some of the animal world is still a mystery

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Speaker 5: to us. Here's your question of the day. By the way,

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Speaker 5: what do you think about President Trump saying earlier today

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Speaker 5: that DEI policies may have played a role in the

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Speaker 5: Wednesday night tragic plane crash. Ken Fyler writes, I'm surprised

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Speaker 5: it didn't happen sooner with DEI hires. Mike Reads writes

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Speaker 5: this one hundred percent true. Bob burns he's working on

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Speaker 5: finding the causes, and DEI is one big one. DEI

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Speaker 5: is one cause for so many disasters. Marty Klaus shares this.

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Speaker 5: I think first they need to be sure who made

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Speaker 5: the error. Was it air traffic control, the helo pilot,

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Speaker 5: or the airline pilot, or.

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Speaker 4: A combination there on? I would ask Marty.

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Speaker 5: Al Sharp writes this, it's a bit early to be

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Speaker 5: blaming anything at this point, but he knows more.

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Speaker 4: Than us, and I think he knows more than us

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Speaker 4: on this particular situation. Maybe.

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Speaker 5: Pat Riot writes maybe, but it was definitely incompetence, and

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Speaker 5: Susan Brumbaugh has this. That was my thought as well.

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Speaker 5: But we need to find out the facts. I agree

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Speaker 5: before we jump to conclusions here, folks, it's been a

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Speaker 5: difficult day. Sixty seven families have lost a father, a mother,

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Speaker 5: a wife, a husband, a brother, a sister, a cousin,

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Speaker 5: an uncle and aunt. It's a difficult day. And for

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Speaker 5: those sixty seven families, all of us here Real America's

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Speaker 5: Voice share our prayers with you and lift you up

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Speaker 5: and hope only that you can make it through this

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Speaker 5: difficult time. Join me tomorrow on Steve Gruver's on the

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Speaker 5: Steaver River Show. Here on Real America's Voice to start

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Speaker 5: your broadcast. They will have the latest on the crash,

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Speaker 5: plus Cash Bettel, Tulsea Gabbert, RFK Junior. We'll have it

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Speaker 5: all for you to start your day tomorrow. Then I'll

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Speaker 5: see it back here for America's Voice Live