WEBVTT - I've Gotta Go (S5 E14 "Say Something”)

0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I am all in.

0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeart Radio podcast.

0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast I Heart

0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Radio one O Lemon Production, Season five, Episode fourteen, Say Something?

0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>What an episode? I am joined by my intrepid crew,

0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Tarus Food, Daniel Romo, and Santa Monica and Amy Sugarman

0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:44.080
<v Speaker 1>representing Lake Tahoe. Ladies welcome, say something, don't speak.

0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I just want to know how y'all feel about that episode.

0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think it was a home run.

0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was I agree big, I agree big

0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>home run.

0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Raise your hand if you cried?

0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>What did I get a little for clemped?

0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Did you?

0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Who got for clemped?

0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Why did I not think it was emotional? In the slightest?

0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.080
<v Speaker 3>What really talking about?

0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought Lauren gave a knockout performance in this agree

0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.600
<v Speaker 1>she did some very very detailed, very difficult work.

0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm just very much on Luke's page. So for me,

0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.640
<v Speaker 4>it's like, sorry, girlfriend, I don't know what to tell you.

0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:26.440
<v Speaker 3>You messed it up?

0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.320
<v Speaker 1>She did? I agree with you there, she messed it up.

0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel sad about it.

0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.800
<v Speaker 3>What I feel devastated about it?

0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.760
<v Speaker 4>For me, I'm kind of like, you go, Luke. You

0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.120
<v Speaker 4>you stand your ground and you do your thing, because

0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.480
<v Speaker 4>what happened, like you didn't deserve any of that.

0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It Luke's the one that got Ama got wounded deepest,

0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.240
<v Speaker 1>don't you think. I mean, imagine being him in that

0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.520
<v Speaker 1>scenario when he hears all those horrible things coming out

0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of Christopher's mouth at a certain point, It's like it

0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was like this perfect storm of bad for Luke sitting here,

0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.720
<v Speaker 1>sitting there hearing that and what these people really think

0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of him. I mean, he must have felt so low

0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and so used and so abused that it was and he's.

0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Been waiting forever for this. That's the worst part too,

0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Like he has been in her corner since the beginning

0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.600
<v Speaker 4>of time and has been waiting for this moment he

0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.519
<v Speaker 4>finally gets his shot at being in a relationship with Lorlai,

0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.760
<v Speaker 4>and there's all these external forces making it not happen.

0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's just like including Lorelai, like she's you know,

0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.760
<v Speaker 4>throwing fuel on the fire too.

0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.720
<v Speaker 3>So here's my question for you guys. And I know

0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.359
<v Speaker 3>this is going to be like unpopular opinion that everyone

0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:49.919
<v Speaker 3>like attacks me of the crimes that were committed. Do

0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.320
<v Speaker 3>we agree hers was the least?

0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes? Sure?

0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.120
<v Speaker 1>No, why do is? Why is hers the least?

0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:04.959
<v Speaker 3>Because hey, what Christopher did was horrific. What Emily did

0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:12.840
<v Speaker 3>was exponentially horrific. Lorala I omitted, we can say omitted lied.

0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:19.400
<v Speaker 3>She didn't essentially though, to protect Luke's feelings. It was wrong.

0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.360
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I mean I did it to avoid the

0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>drama for herself.

0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.320
<v Speaker 4>She literally did it for herself.

0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let me ask you guys that your opinion

0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is she is her heart a little bit with Christopher.

0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I know that night she sort of ended it and

0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.720
<v Speaker 1>get away from me and all. But before that even happened, Yes,

0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.680
<v Speaker 1>before Emily you know scheme right, And that's and that's

0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.320
<v Speaker 1>what I think hit Luke in the face the hardest. Yes,

0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like your heart, your heart, there's a part of

0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you that is always going to be with him.

0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, even in the episode, Laura I said that I'll

0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.920
<v Speaker 5>never speak to him again, and Luke is like that

0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.800
<v Speaker 5>it's not possible, Like it's it's your daughter's father.

0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Luke is very clear headed about the situation. He's very clear,

0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:18.640
<v Speaker 3>like you can't forget about him completely, and he's very

0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.719
<v Speaker 3>almost unemotional, where I sort of wish he'd let his

0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.600
<v Speaker 3>love for her come up a little bit, because I

0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.799
<v Speaker 3>do think they could have worked it out in the moment.

0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I actually think they could have worked it out when

0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:31.800
<v Speaker 3>he was at the house. But we'll get to that.

0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:39.800
<v Speaker 3>He's being very pragmagical. Logical's right word. Yeah, I mean, Scott,

0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.599
<v Speaker 3>are you with Luke or do you? Were you screaming

0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:49.120
<v Speaker 3>like Luke? Just take her back, accept her apology. I

0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.360
<v Speaker 3>want to know where you felt.

0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I've been in that situation. That's how you react. That's

0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's overwhelming to be in that situation and have all

0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that information hit you in the face like that, and

0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:08.599
<v Speaker 1>it's it feels so I mean, if you have any

0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of issues where you know, I don't know, Well,

0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get to psychological.

0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.880
<v Speaker 3>There, but no do.

0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:22.440
<v Speaker 1>He felt completely erased. He felt insignificant and small, and

0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he didn't even guarder enough respect from Laura Lei to

0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.120
<v Speaker 1>clue him in on what she did with Christopher that

0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.360
<v Speaker 1>night and to make you know, just just to you know,

0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just to I mean, she she made it into something

0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it didn't need to be. Yeah, and it was her fault,

0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.359
<v Speaker 1>her back that's it.

0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.320
<v Speaker 4>And the worst part is that she also said that she,

0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.800
<v Speaker 4>if I'm recalling this correctly, that she would she was

0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.719
<v Speaker 4>only telling him because Christopher was there, right, you know

0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.680
<v Speaker 4>what I mean? So like that was also a part

0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.520
<v Speaker 4>that's like, oh, so you weren't going to tell him anyways.

0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.440
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's almost like somebody trying to make a

0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.760
<v Speaker 1>pack with you. Somebody's so desperate, like, hey, you know,

0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.120
<v Speaker 1>i'm your friend and I'm cashing in all my chips here,

0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but can you save my ass in this situation with you? Yeah?

0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's just so bad.

0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:11.400
<v Speaker 1>It's such a bad look.

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.599
<v Speaker 3>The problem for Lorla is that she did it twice.

0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:19.440
<v Speaker 3>That's really my problem is, like because I really can

0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.320
<v Speaker 3>fight for her, and I actually can defend it, and

0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff was Christopher and Emily and not

0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:30.640
<v Speaker 3>her and circumstantial, like, but she did it twice. She

0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.039
<v Speaker 3>did it with the lunch, which she then told him,

0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.719
<v Speaker 3>and he really took it well and it hurt him,

0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.320
<v Speaker 3>but he kind of rose above and then she's done

0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.280
<v Speaker 3>it again. It's like she didn't learn anything from the

0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:44.920
<v Speaker 3>first time that she hurt him.

0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Here's a question, do you think that it would have

0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.440
<v Speaker 4>been as bad all the Christopher stuff that happened in

0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.560
<v Speaker 4>the last episode. If Lorala had told Luke about this,

0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.400
<v Speaker 4>about their hangout in it the day that she was hungover,

0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:00.360
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.719
<v Speaker 5>It would be a completely different situation.

0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.160
<v Speaker 4>I think it would be a different situation too. And

0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.920
<v Speaker 4>so you know, like in that moment when Christopher went

0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.040
<v Speaker 4>on his like what Emily blah blah blah, I think

0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Luke would have been a little bit more like, well,

0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.280
<v Speaker 4>at least my girl is on my set, that's right,

0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, I totally agree with you.

0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it would have been Luke and Loreli against

0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.160
<v Speaker 3>the world at that point, but they would have been,

0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, locked arms, they would have been against Emily,

0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.680
<v Speaker 3>And maybe Luke would have felt differently about when Laura

0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Li said I'm just gonna have nothing to do with them.

0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Luke maybe would have said, all right, let's we're going

0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.120
<v Speaker 3>to be in it together and we'll figure this out together.

0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think Luke and I think that's what a

0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys tend to do when they meet people

0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have a tremendous amount offer coming from

0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.840
<v Speaker 1>their side in terms of family and cousins and friends

0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and all that they try to pull the woman into

0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.720
<v Speaker 1>their world and like, walk away from your world. Let's

0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.920
<v Speaker 1>create our own world and we'll be safe inside of

0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.760
<v Speaker 1>our little bubble. I don't And Luke didn't do that.

0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:15.400
<v Speaker 1>He accommodated her at every turn. He was willing to

0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.200
<v Speaker 1>show up here and there, even though he didn't want

0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to show up at Emily's house or whatever for whatever function.

0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Here and there, he took all the slings and arrows right,

0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.120
<v Speaker 1>all the insults coming from Richard and all the dismissive stuff.

0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And oh, Luke, I didn't even see you there. I mean,

0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you just want to smack somebody at that point. I mean, really,

0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.680
<v Speaker 1>this is this is how you're going to talk to

0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this guy. And and it's just so odd that she's

0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so militantly against her mother. And we're done, and then

0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.679
<v Speaker 1>you know Christopher and she and her heart is still

0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.480
<v Speaker 1>with Christopher. I understands, you know, the father of their

0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.640
<v Speaker 1>child and all that, but you know, the guy, I think,

0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.440
<v Speaker 1>over a sixteen year period, is demonstrated that he's just

0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.400
<v Speaker 1>not up for the job.

0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I think like her brain knows he's a mess and

0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.120
<v Speaker 3>bad and this was bad, but it's like her heart

0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:16.200
<v Speaker 3>is connected to him she can't help it. That being said,

0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I think her heart is much more with Luke. Obviously

0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.120
<v Speaker 3>the pain she's in I could feel it through this episode.

0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's got to be trust or else what do

0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you have?

0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you.

0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.920
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. In your heart, it's going to be.

0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.600
<v Speaker 1>There can't be any doubt, you know. And it's just like,

0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and especially something that intense coming from him, he's waited

0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that long and he's right. He's this particular guy and

0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.480
<v Speaker 1>loves her to the ends of the earth and was

0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.280
<v Speaker 1>always a great loyal friend and now he's even a

0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.120
<v Speaker 1>better man with her went now that yeare together, and

0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just all great. And he's just he's an all

0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.800
<v Speaker 1>in guy. He's like an all or nothing guy.

0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.960
<v Speaker 3>It's yes, it's almost like she's saying, I'm all in.

0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's recipation.

0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's saying it in desperation, but I'm all in.

0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm all in. Like, but it's like, if you were

0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.280
<v Speaker 3>all in, then this never would have happened.

0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, what's your code? You have no code?

0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So so here's my question. And I know we

0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.280
<v Speaker 3>need to go through it in order. But the thing

0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:17.400
<v Speaker 3>that was so telling for me or relatable was Luke's

0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.400
<v Speaker 3>way of dealing with it. I need space, I turned,

0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.440
<v Speaker 3>he turned his phone off, he went to the movie.

0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.680
<v Speaker 3>He needs time, and she is just like I would be.

0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.200
<v Speaker 3>We need to talk about it now. Can we please

0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.400
<v Speaker 3>talk about it now? I need to fix this. I

0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.040
<v Speaker 3>need to fix this up. Like if we just talk

0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.400
<v Speaker 3>about it, if you just listen to me, I can

0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.880
<v Speaker 3>fix this. I can fix this. Just the desperation and

0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.400
<v Speaker 3>the message she left was just like hashtag relatable.

0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I felt like I was watching me and my husband,

0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.240
<v Speaker 4>like I thought I was watching my own relationship on TV.

0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh God, who's who?

0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm more that's.

0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about it.

0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm here to talk about it all day long. And

0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.360
<v Speaker 4>my husband's like I need I need to be away

0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.920
<v Speaker 4>from you for it least an hour.

0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean it was so relatable. And I don't

0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.880
<v Speaker 3>know if that's because Amy and Dan just can write

0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.040
<v Speaker 3>men and women so well or what wait, speaking of

0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.120
<v Speaker 3>we just saw a note that we haven't even done

0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:15.960
<v Speaker 3>this anop.

0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.280
<v Speaker 1>System, you know what? I think Amy and Dan wrote

0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.640
<v Speaker 1>their own relationship. Yeah, because I think the relationship, or

0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a large percent of relationships go through this is she Lauralish.

0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I think she's Parish.

0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't expect that.

0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't either, And I think I think I think

0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan is a Kirk Doyle.

0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Really, so you see more similarities in that relationship than

0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Luke and Lauraai.

0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's what it is.

0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, no way, that's cool.

0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:56.560
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty cool.

0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I like that.

0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.040
<v Speaker 3>That makes that spinoff idea you had of them even

0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:07.800
<v Speaker 3>more interesting. Wow. Okay, we twenty minutes in. We better

0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:08.760
<v Speaker 3>read the synopsis.

0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.280
<v Speaker 4>All right? This is season five, episode fourteen, Say Something,

0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Air date February fifteenth, two thousand and five. After all

0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.840
<v Speaker 4>the drama at the wedding, Loralai tries to find Luke

0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.920
<v Speaker 4>to apologize, but he needs time to process what happened.

0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.280
<v Speaker 4>After Loralai keeps pushing him, he finally decides her family

0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.760
<v Speaker 4>and history maybe too much for him.

0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.280
<v Speaker 3>She takes to.

0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Her bed to wallow, where Rory tends to her needs

0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.559
<v Speaker 4>and the town takes sides.

0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh so, two quick notes. I want to see what

0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.440
<v Speaker 3>you guys think. Number One, Normally those last week on

0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Gilmore Girls or previously on Gilbirls are kind of like whatever,

0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.600
<v Speaker 3>But this one I was like ten out of ten.

0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.920
<v Speaker 4>The Reah was well, I feel like because they kind

0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:00.200
<v Speaker 4>of showed, you know, like right, like, they show what

0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.400
<v Speaker 4>happened that led into this episode.

0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.000
<v Speaker 3>They picked the perfect moments.

0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was They kind of did this in the

0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.280
<v Speaker 4>beginning of the season with.

0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:10.640
<v Speaker 3>The story stuff.

0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dean, you know, like it was like a kind

0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.320
<v Speaker 4>of a redo of that. I liked it a lot.

0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.560
<v Speaker 3>And the thing that I loved the most is that

0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:24.840
<v Speaker 3>the episode began exactly to the moment where the one

0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.040
<v Speaker 3>before had ended. I mean literally they just turned the

0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.960
<v Speaker 3>camera and that was obviously. I want to know, did

0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.720
<v Speaker 3>you film it all as one? But I don't know, Scott,

0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can remember, but it's.

0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Like film at all as one?

0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Like did you film the beginning of this episode when

0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.040
<v Speaker 3>you filmed the end of the last one?

0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Sure? Yeah, you don't want to go back to

0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that location and spend all that money and exactly rent

0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.920
<v Speaker 1>out the same location and just do it while you're there? Yeah?

0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just thought that was amazing, Like, so that

0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.559
<v Speaker 3>to me was great. And then obviously we've got to

0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.440
<v Speaker 3>spend most of our time talking about Lucan Laurlai. But

0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I really thought Rory and Logan were really cute in

0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.600
<v Speaker 3>this episode, which we'll get into. And I loved that

0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Laura I and Rory had that moment, even despite all

0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.960
<v Speaker 3>her despair, for her to say, it's all okay, like

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.720
<v Speaker 3>you didn't do anything. We're good, Logan, go find him.

0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 3>It's all like you've got nothing to worry about.

0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.240
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to be mad at Laura I. I mean,

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.160
<v Speaker 1>she's just it's she's trying to do the right thing

0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>all the way around, and she's just getting churned up

0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and gosh, man, I mean she's she's anyway. Yeah, so

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.880
<v Speaker 1>let's let's stay on the topic. But I just it's

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>just interesting how she's she's got so many irons in

0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the fire emotionally all over the place.

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she got five of them right now.

0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean she's taken on a lot, and but she

0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>has the capacity for it. And I just, yeah, she

0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.240
<v Speaker 1>mishandles one thing and it all blows up, and I

0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of feel bad for now.

0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm heartbroken for the One thing I noticed on

0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.920
<v Speaker 3>the fan comments is they always think we'd take it

0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:16.320
<v Speaker 3>too easy on Rory, like we always are like, oh, Rory,

0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.280
<v Speaker 3>it's fine that she was making out with the boy

0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:19.800
<v Speaker 3>at her parents.

0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.760
<v Speaker 2>She's in college.

0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.360
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I feel like we didn't.

0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.000
<v Speaker 3>But I half.

0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.280
<v Speaker 4>And half yeah, yeah.

0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean. The other thing that shocked me in the

0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.960
<v Speaker 3>comments is the amount of people who did not like

0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.880
<v Speaker 3>that dress that Laura I was wearing. Oh I was

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.480
<v Speaker 3>like ten out of ten. Oh my god. People hated it.

0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.080
<v Speaker 3>They said it looked cheap. They didn't like the sequin thing.

0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.600
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I thought it was very Laurai

0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.840
<v Speaker 4>and also very that moment in time, So you know,

0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.560
<v Speaker 4>like two thousands.

0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But for that occasion, is that inappropriate?

0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.520
<v Speaker 3>You thought it was a little too sassy, kind of

0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:55.880
<v Speaker 3>too sparkly.

0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't think so I think I do.

0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>What do I know about fashion and what's appropriate to This.

0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Is the thing after reading I read all the comments

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.560
<v Speaker 3>during the week, and then when I watched the episode,

0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I was happy to see the dress again and say

0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.680
<v Speaker 3>to myself, I still love this dress, Like this silver

0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.480
<v Speaker 3>is so cool and she's so so pretty. She's so

0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.920
<v Speaker 3>tall anyway, that that surprised me. And then it was

0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.600
<v Speaker 3>just so painful, like there's literally no one there for

0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.600
<v Speaker 3>her because she's done the right thing by saying to

0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Rory go find Logan. I'm fine. You know, Luke's bringing

0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.240
<v Speaker 3>the car around. Oh and then she's flying, asked the guy.

0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:39.720
<v Speaker 3>She's just such a love.

0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.480
<v Speaker 3>One thing that threw me, did you guys notice when

0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.640
<v Speaker 3>the cab pulled up all of a sudden the town

0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:07.280
<v Speaker 3>was fully decorated in lights. I didn't notice that, Like

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.200
<v Speaker 3>when did that happen?

0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But whatever?

0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:16.320
<v Speaker 3>How you guys though, what a moment for Caesar. That

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:17.120
<v Speaker 3>was fun.

0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.520
<v Speaker 1>For Caesar in the background singing and dancing the.

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Biggest moments really in the series.

0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It was so good. Lenny great that that was like

0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that balloon moment that looks balloon moment with Rory floating.

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, they do these beautiful yeah, oh god,

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that's just wonderful.

0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.600
<v Speaker 3>And I do think it was very I don't know

0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.760
<v Speaker 3>if comical is the right word, but very of the

0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.720
<v Speaker 3>town to the minute they realize why are you dressed up?

0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 3>And not with Luke, like this is not good and

0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.639
<v Speaker 3>that's just like uh.

0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:07.600
<v Speaker 6>Oh immediately and even Caesar's like, why aren't what's going on?

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Like, let's shout out to Aris man.

0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.960
<v Speaker 3>He killed totally funny, he nailed it.

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>He nailed He's funny, isn't he.

0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.680
<v Speaker 4>He's just so good and because they brought it back

0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:25.639
<v Speaker 4>to Taylor like they were like, Taylor's going to think everybody.

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.840
<v Speaker 3>So I thought that whole part of it was brilliant,

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 3>and I actually thought the ribbons were pretty brilliant and

0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.199
<v Speaker 3>a little comic release and relief in what was just

0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.280
<v Speaker 3>so heavy. But yeah, I agree Scott, like that was

0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Caesar's moment because the background acting he had to do

0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 3>was Yeah. So anyway, so then we bump into Kirk

0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like, oh god, it's just all a mess,

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.919
<v Speaker 3>like they all know things are not good. So before

0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.639
<v Speaker 3>we get to that, we see Rory get back to

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.919
<v Speaker 3>Yale and wake up pair of which I thought was

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 3>hilarious scene. She's all waited to deuce Sherlock bite me like

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I love it any messages and then you know she's like,

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:15.919
<v Speaker 3>what boy, are you waiting for a.

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:21.239
<v Speaker 5>Mass Yeah, like it's not her mom right like so,

0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:22.720
<v Speaker 5>and then they played Boggle, So.

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I loved it. I really, Paris is

0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:28.639
<v Speaker 3>just growing on me completely.

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 4>I agree, She's fun fun to watch it.

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So then we see Kirk just sweaty and what

0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.160
<v Speaker 3>what game is he doing?

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Of course that that game does make you sweaty.

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.840
<v Speaker 5>I used to have the one at home, like you know,

0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 5>like the math, and that's a workout.

0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.520
<v Speaker 3>And the whole thing, because obviously Luke is doing the

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.280
<v Speaker 3>same thing. Olura is not feeling well and then she's like, oh,

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I had a sniffles, but it went away, and I'm

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.360
<v Speaker 3>trying to find it's just the whole to do. And

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 3>then they go into the movie theater, which was normally crowded,

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.960
<v Speaker 3>but somehow, first of all, every time I say Luke

0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 3>ten people, it's crowded. Every time my brain wants to

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>say Luke. In this conversation we're having, I want to

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:23.680
<v Speaker 3>say Scott. I don't know why in this particular episode, Scott,

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.400
<v Speaker 3>you're so blurred to me with Luke more than anything

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 3>in this one. I'm like, oh my god, I'm very confused.

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 3>So if I say Scott, just forgive me. But I

0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know it's Scott. Like if you were going through that,

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.479
<v Speaker 3>would you go and go to a movie alone? Like,

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.119
<v Speaker 3>how would you guys deal with this situation?

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 1>Well? How many other places are there to go at

0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 1>night in that town? Anyway?

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 3>True?

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>To get away from his diner, Like his diner's probably

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the place to go but they shut down. What does

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 1>he shut down at nine?

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not late to me too. It feels like it's

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 3>a ten o'clock, eleven o'clock at.

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So he's just you know, it was his one

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:05.920
<v Speaker 1>choice to just sort of be by himself.

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 4>And a movie is a good a good idea because

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 4>you have to put your phone away, you know, you're

0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 4>just like escape my phone, the escape into a film.

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Did anyone want him to forgive her as much as

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:20.919
<v Speaker 3>I did?

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.120
<v Speaker 5>I think I think I did agree, like he needs time,

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 5>like maybe forgive her down the line, but not in

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.320
<v Speaker 5>this moment. Like I think that he needed me that time,

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 5>and who knows if he would forgive her forgive her

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.199
<v Speaker 5>down the line, but I think in this moment, no.

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like the punishment is way worse than

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the crime here, I get it.

0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.920
<v Speaker 4>I just I need Lorli to realize, like she can't

0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 4>keep doing this stuff, you know. So for me, it's

0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 4>kind of like, no, I want Luke to like have

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 4>his moment right now and like show her that he

0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:01.199
<v Speaker 4>deserves the respect and he deserves the right treatment and

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 4>all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, so for me,

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I mean, I hope down the road they

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 4>work it out, but like right now I'm like totally

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:15.399
<v Speaker 4>okay with them not being in Yeah.

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that the the incident, the quote unquote lie,

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the big lie, you know, that's that's life changing, that's

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>earth shattering to her relationship and I And this to

0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.119
<v Speaker 1>me feels like it's a big moment for both of

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>them and he does need to process it and time

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>does need to go by. I'm not talking weeks, I'm

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>talking months. Oh oh no, because it's like he needs

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to really assess what if he can ever trust her again.

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>It just it just hits every sour note in his soul,

0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>every fear was preyed upon, was realized in a relationship.

0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's another guy involved. There's this this evil

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:12.479
<v Speaker 1>mother who's putting the the wimpy x you know, up

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>to doing damage, and it's like he can't. It's like

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>what am I? What am I doing here? What is?

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>What is I don't have a chance in this family.

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>There's there's a chance for me. And he gave his

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>best for so many years. He just keeps giving his best.

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>He's doing the best he can, being the assault of

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the earth guy, always reliable, always and and then this happens,

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, again, so it's a pattern.

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Now I just have so much compassion, probably because I

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 3>just can relate to her so much as she is

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 3>just an excruciating pain and she wants to fix it

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 3>so bad. Absolutely wanted him to go all right, like

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 3>and hug her and kiss her and be like we're fine.

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Just let's let's not lie to each other ever again,

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like he did it last time, you know what

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean. And it's just like it's one of those

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 4>things that this relationship is not just a Maxi Medina

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 4>that she met at the at the school because it's

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.919
<v Speaker 4>Rory's teacher, you know, Like this is actually someone that

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 4>has been in her life for a really long time.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 4>So if they're going to be taking a stab at

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 4>this relationship, like to Taylor's credit, it has to work,

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, like it does and if it doesn't, then

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 4>he's got to remove himself from that situation.

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there's a part of Laurel I

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that feels like she can sort of compartmentalize her feelings

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>towards Luke, Like here's friendship Luke before the relationship here's

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>romantic Luke and you know, and it's it's like, do

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 1>you think maybe she got confused in this moment, And

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like I can rely on friendship Luke not to

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>care and just support me one hundred percent and be

0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 1>used to that. And now that the rules of change,

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the rule have changed, maybe she's not acknowledging that the

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>rules have changed because she's so fond of both Luke's

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and this is obviously a new, fresh relationship, but she's

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>been bonded with him as a friend.

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think of that, But that's a very interesting

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 3>sort of angle there, that like, because this would have

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 3>been really no big whoop if they were just friends.

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 3>The other thing I think about.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Would have been supportive and like stupid. You know.

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Loralai is sort of the bell of the ball, right,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the queen of the town. Like she's sort of the ship, right,

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 3>So I think sometimes she thinks she can get herself

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 3>out of any mess, almost like I can't think of

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 3>a good analogy. For some reason, Lucy came to mind,

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 3>everything will be okay, is causing shenanigans, but in the

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 3>end she can.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Because she's so lovable, she's so fabulous and so glittera right.

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think this was a real life slap

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 3>in the face or sort of awakening for her to realize, like,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 3>I can't just behave however I want to behave. I

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 3>can't just go get drunk with Christopher and think it

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 3>won't have ramifications. Yeah, she's a little bit of a

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 3>sixteen year old I was just about thirty five year

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 3>old body.

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like she's where Rory. I mean, I

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 5>feel like if Rory did this, we wouldn't be as

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 5>hard on her. I mean, yes we would, because she's

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 5>old enough. But this is Laura I were talking about.

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if this relationship were to have a second chance, right,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>if there was a reconciliation, I think too, they would

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have to sit down and really map out what's acceptable

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and what isn't in terms of Christopher, in terms of

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the family, I mean, really define it, you know, and

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>have you know, not necessarily rules, But this is but expectations,

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, because I want to see

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>them get back together. Obviously they feel very deeply for

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>each other. They're really great together, and justifiably she's feeling

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>all of this angst and she should came, but I

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>think they need to map it out.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Is there any okay? I have so many questions for

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>you guys. Number one, it's almost like Lorla has never

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 3>had to be accountable, if that's the right word to anyone.

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Like she always was sort of at odds with her

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>parents and then she's been on her own since sixteen

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 3>and the only person she really was accountable to was Rory,

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>who she was taking care of, right, But she's never

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 3>had to really yeah, Suki in a sense, but like

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 3>even that relationship has troubles with like being fully transparent

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.959
<v Speaker 3>with each other, which we think about, like the arguments

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 3>they had running the inn. It's like she's never had

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 3>to know what it's like to treat someone with so

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:05.239
<v Speaker 3>much respect or put someone else above her, Like, am

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I crazy? Or am I sort of like.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 5>I understand what you're saying.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, so she is

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 4>adjusting to that.

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 3>So the other question I wanted to ask you guys,

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 3>say that the crime, because I still think the punishment

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>is a little worse than the crime, But say the

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>crime is only that she never told Luke about the

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 3>drunken night with Christopher and that she sprung it on

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and at the wedding, right, Pretend the rest of the

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 3>bleep didn't hit the fan, meaning Rory never got caught

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>like making out with Logan, Christopher never ran in, Christopher

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 3>never spewed all that crap, And pretend Emily never did

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 3>what she did. Right, Pretend none of that happened. Do

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 3>we think Luke would have still been Eke, this gone

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 3>this far? Would you have still broken up with Lorli

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>over just the line?

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 5>But are you saying that the thing before wouldn't have happened,

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>that the lunch.

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 3>The lunch happened, and this has happened, but none of

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>the extra stuff, not Emily.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that Yeah. I think that it would have

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>been the same outcome. I think Luke would have been

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>devastated and he would have taken his time and separated

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and really processed it, because that's what he does.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I want. The thing is is that he thinks right.

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 4>He like not flipped, but he like put on a

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 4>brave face and like, you know, acted cool that whole

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 4>night up until that very end. I don't think he

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 4>would have broken up with her. I think he would

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 4>have been like, hey, we need to talk about this

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 4>and it cannot happen again.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I think he.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Would have been strict and stern and very like, you

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 4>cannot do this again, you know, I'm annoyed.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Can you all weigh in for Luke? Is he most

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 3>upset about the lies or is it all of it

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>that he's just like, yeah, all of it, it's all bad.

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 5>But I think the lie is a big part of

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 5>I think the lie is a big part of it though,

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 5>But Scott, You're like.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 3>The.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Lie is bad enough. And then he hears Christopher say,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Emily put me up to this and we still have

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a chance, and Emily, you know, and Luke's garbage and yeah,

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's not one of us, and it Lukes

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>just absorbing all this stuff.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. I think it all because it's so.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Like anybody in their right mind would hear that and

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>just say I'm at it.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you had confidence, you would go, I don't

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>need this.

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm better than this. Right.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I think that everything that happened that night were valid

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 4>fears of Luke's. Like Luke had all those things already

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>in his mind. Emily doesn't like me. I'm not good

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 4>enough for Emily or or Richard she's you know, does

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>is there anything still with Christopher? Like do I need

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 4>to worry about that? Like he had all those thoughts

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 4>in his brain already, and that night, literally all those

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 4>things slapped him across the face. Yeah, and that's when

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 4>he literally was like, you know, these concerns I had

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 4>that I was suppressing and trying to say, I'm going

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>to give this relationship a shot and I trust Laurel, I,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, to help me through this all came crumbling down.

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think of it like there, you know, his feeling,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>his feelings, his love for her, his devotion for her

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is like this sort of thread that is, you know,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a thousand feet in the air, and he keeps walking

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>out there and he lives on that thread for her,

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and he trusts her. Yeah, and her commitment to him

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>is what in their mutual commitment keeps that thread st strong.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And it just all got pulled out. It just dissolved,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and he fell and he hid his head and he

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to do it again. It's terrifying.

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he already was terrified anyway.

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But and he's and he's all we've seen that he's

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>really good at being alone. Yeah, Yeah, he can handle it.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, Scott, You're right.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>He can handle it, and right he might even prefer that. Yeah,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>but he but but he must have really, he must

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>really love her to go out on that thread with

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>her and like we can both do this, and I'm

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna if you go back to your parents' house or

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you do this or that, I'm always gonna have We're

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>always going to be holding hands on this thread. Its

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>thread's going to be here for you. Don't worry about it.

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But then when she you lie like that, Wow, it

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>goes away there. He has no there's no pathway back

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to her now. It doesn't matter how upset she gets.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, he knows, and he probably feels bad

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that she's upset. Obviously showed up over there. Yes he

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>still cares about her, but as a romantic entanglement.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh that I know we're going out of order, but

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I have to ask this, did any part of you

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>want him to just when he went running over there

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 3>as friend Luke, which I like how you're sort of

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>describing that that to me was the moment for her

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 3>instead of doing what she did where she's like this

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 3>is my lowest low I'm crazy I'll never do it again.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I get it, we can be done. What I wanted

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>her to say was I made such a mistake, I

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 3>will never do it again. I love you, And then

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I wanted him to reunite with her in that moment.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I do think it was possible. Yes, you don't know

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>that differently.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Amy, You're like me. I believe in love. Yeah, I

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>think believe in the power love. If she had just

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>expressed herself and opened her heart up, and I mean

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he could have seen her completely exposed, completely, yes, and

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>showing the best part of herself to him, Yes, I

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>am I think that, and he s would have done

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the same. He probably would have responded the same.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt I'll tell you.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that he was being very authentically Louke right,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>but she was not being authentic to herself. She suddenly

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 3>became so embarrassed by her vulnerability that she did that

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 3>sort of mass brave loralai thing she does where she's like,

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll never do it again. I'm humiliated.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 5>She bothers me that she made it about her, because

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 5>like I think, at this moment, it's not about her,

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 5>It's about and I think that's why like I think

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 5>I was. I felt for her because I know she's

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 5>in love with Luke, but I felt worse for Luke

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 5>because she was like, this is my low. Well, clearly

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 5>Luke is feeling low too.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I was disappointed her in the end. I didn't mind

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>the lora lie that was panicking and chasing him and

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>saying how long. And I think the grocery store and

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing and the phone message. I related and

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 3>support that one. I was disappointed in the way she

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 3>acted at the end of this episode, when that was

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 3>her moment. He was there. He was showing her, despite

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>what you did, I still have your back. I came

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 3>running over. I broke and he shut up. I showed up.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 3>I think that would she blew it more then than

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 3>she did.

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>She still had shot.

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he showed her you can, you can give give

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 4>us a shot, and he went. He went percent of

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 4>the way, you know what I mean.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was pretty dis like that's I know people

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 3>get very emotional over this episode, but my emotion is

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 3>coming up now because I'm I'm so bummed the way

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 3>she acted at the end. It's like, you love this guy,

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 3>we get it, we saw your pain. You're in the bed,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>you're crying. The not just the performance was amazing, but

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I would believed it. I believed her pain. Then why

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 3>did you do that? At the end, he came, he

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>showed you you got a chance.

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's just funny because this whole episode she's like

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 4>literally going after him right like, he's saying, I need time,

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>I need time, and she's like, but let me fix it,

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 4>let me do this, let me do that. And then

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 4>at the end she's like, I heard you when you

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 4>said you were out, and I'm going to respect that.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like if she.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>If she doesn't know how to fix it and the

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>fix is obvious, right, Yeah, then is that relationship a

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>good idea to begin with? Maybe that's you know, you

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>go through these things with people. They can be very

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>intense and very passionate, and they can feel like forever,

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and then something happens where the rubber hits the road

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and the stuff hits the fan and you find out

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>their character, you know, and one flash of a moment

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>when and can it just can get all wiped away

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>so quickly.

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't realize how much that last scene bothered

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 4>me until now me too.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm rarely disappointed in.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Laura, and she made it about her, yeah, and her

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>feelings toward him and what.

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeh, Because like when she was in bed, I felt

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 5>bad for her and Rory comes like that part. I

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 5>felt for her as like someone who's heartbroken. And as

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 5>it went on, I was just like, I don't really

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 5>feel as bad for her because there's it's there's two sides, right,

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, sorry, there's two people in this relationship and

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 5>you need equal sides to be way.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 3>To gather at the end too. That was her moment

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 3>to like break down, like cry, be emotional, show him.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Dement.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 4>She was like it was her time to say something,

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 4>guys man speak out anything.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>That was the moment where she just pours it all out.

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 3>And he just picks her up and she's already left

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 3>this message. Then I actually didn't find the message that asinine.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Like I was like, you know what, it's not your

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 3>finest moment, but the message, but it's very Laurel.

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I Why wasn't she Why wasn't she happy when she

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>saw him?

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I would have been ecstatic and just

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 3>had maybe.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 1>She just folded the tent and concede defeat and I'm

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>going to respect you now.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you came, he came. Luke came to your house

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 3>that ending. Really, I was like, it tracks, that's very

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Loralai of what she did there at the end. But

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you blew it now, girl, I'm not. I

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 3>wasn't even that mad. I was the one defender of

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 3>her lie. I'm like, I'm taking a lot of heat

0:38:55.560 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram for that, but was upsetting for me for her.

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought Luke was a ten out of ten. This

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>guy has just once again proven how awesome he is

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and that he's so upset and hurt, but he still

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 3>came running.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I care. That was probably my

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>best shot to get on the poster, but it still

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't get me on the poster. And I showed my

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>heart to the producers. So I'm like, I love you,

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I love That's give the poster.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 3>We do need to talk about the dolls.

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Want to get your salary.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>You were awesome this episode the poster. You were awesome

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>in this episode. She was brilliant, but so were you.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Like you two are so leveled up in this episode

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 3>with like performances.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what, thank you because I'll tell you the

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>scene in Dosies Market I really like that scene. It

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>was so good. I really liked Luke and he you know,

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>he underplayed everything and.

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she overplayed it just like she needed to.

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>But it was a god. We were so good together,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>weren't we.

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that scene was so relatable and real because you

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 3>were being you know, male, pretty male.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>About gonna say this, if these people don't get their

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>acts together and do more episodes, they're insane. This is gold.

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>This stuff is gold, and I.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Think you could do it so much better this time.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Okay, let's talk about a little bit of

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 3>a comic relief here. The doll party to me was amazing.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 3>It was net It did give me a bit of

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 3>a breath to have Michelle and the woman with well

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 3>it's six girls and six dolls, you know, and more

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Lin's just In and the little pancakes and Michelle is

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>just like is she psychoedic?

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>For me, that whole thing was really good. And then

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 3>the fact that Loralai screwed up and did not that

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 3>she she left up show up. Yeah, that's how devastated

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 3>she was. Okay, I do think that we need to

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 3>talk about Rory Logan because I think there's a lot

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 3>to unpack, so have at it. Who wants to start?

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was just super cool and smooth like

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he is.

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 4>And uh, the one thing that I will say is

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Logan in the last episode like clearly said I'm not

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 4>going to give this to you, right, And so she's

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 4>asking him to hang out. He invites her to a

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 4>group hang where you know, a lot of people are there,

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 4>and she's upset about it, and it's like.

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 3>But at the end his explanation of it. Now, I

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you'd call that gas lighting or really

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of but his explanation, I was like, you had

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 3>a point. Like I was like, you make a great point.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>He's like, so I had people over, but you want

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 3>to hang out and I didn't want to tell you no.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he could have told her that on the phone.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 3>What he Yeah, he could have said, hey, there's.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>He was truly considerate. He would have said, listen him

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>over here. Yeah, I'd love to hang over. You can

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>come over, but you know, I'm playing poker with the

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>fellows and there's a couple of girls here too, and like,

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>come on over and hang if you want, but if

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to, we can do it another time.

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 5>I do give I do give Rory some I think

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 5>the reason why I give her some credit is because

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 5>she's finally not just waiting around for people and like

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 5>stepping up and like I feel like we saw her

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 5>freshman year of college just like waiting around for Dean

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 5>or you know. Now she's kind of just like that's

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 5>the only thing I like about it. But I do.

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I do think it was kind of now that you said,

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 5>I think it was a little bit of gas lighting.

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>A little bit it was, but it was also it

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 3>was also honest and it was very logan, but it

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 3>was a true explanation where he was saying, like, if

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>we're going to be together, like sometimes we're gonna hang

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 3>out with other people and you're cool with that, so

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 3>why are you not cool with it this time?

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 5>But you know, he also said last week like hey,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm not looking for anything, and.

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, so the thing that to me and he

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 4>was like, so do you just want to have sex

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 4>all the time?

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 6>Straight upset the.

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Unpopular opinion again, But I am all in with that

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>guy because also when she had a moment of crisis,

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 3>he he is right there saving the day essentially in

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 3>a logan way, but it's not like he he cares

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 3>about he cares. He does he does.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>There's also the aspect of you know a guy, you know,

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>college guys when they're dating or if they like somebody,

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter that, you know. One of the true

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>tests of of of whether they want to really be

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>interested in this girls. Can they hang?

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Can they be a good hang? Are they a drag?

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>When they are? They like? Do they add to it?

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Are they do they mix well with my friends? You know?

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a perfect kind of way to see what they're like.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Correct. And also he's showing his friends that I'm cool

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 3>with Rory being around us. She's like in our group.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not hiding her away and just hooking up with her.

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm not embarrassed by her. And also I think there's

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 3>a moment where one of the friends says something like

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 3>your girl about her, I'll steal your girl. I can't

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 3>remember something, but.

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Kidd was like, if you go there was any phrase

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 4>to friends one you, kiddo is the phrase?

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 3>And he did it.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, the second he said that, I was like,

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 5>oh no, I did well.

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just imagine how much life experience he's had

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>compared to to Rory in terms of.

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 4>But they're the same age.

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>But I know, but you know, this guy's on private

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>jets going he's going to say bars.

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Guy, the guy that I love said that to me.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, it's done. I've been friend zone. I

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 3>think I'd be fine.

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 4>I am with the Autara would be like, all right,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 4>I think I think he has so much control right

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 4>now that he probably is toying.

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 1>With her a little bit there. Definitely is there's a

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a little game going on here, but he's you know,

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a guy who has to be careful, right, you know,

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he wants to know that people are And she did

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of show her hand a little bit with the

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>with the Seymour Hirst thing, and she got all bubbly

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and excited, and you know, he knows, right is she

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in it for the money? Is she in it for

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>my connections? Or does she really think I'm all that?

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, he has to know that.

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 3>One of the scenes that I love so much in

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 3>this episode is Janet and Alfia, which again this could

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 3>be who's Kevin, But I don't know if that was

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>the first time we met al Theia, but I love her.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 3>That was amazing where Paris is like, look, we need

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to ask them, like they know this stuff, and We'reor's

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 3>like I don't need their advice, and then all of

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, she hears what they say to Paris and

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 3>she's like, excuse me, Like that was awesome.

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 4>She takes their advice, and then Logan calls her out

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 4>on it, like hangout is vague.

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 6>But it also was like pretty solid boy advice they

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:32.280
<v Speaker 6>were giving intricate And also, can we talk about Emmy

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 6>Award winning appearance by Cereal?

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Like there's so much Cereal in this and I was

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 3>like the fact that they took four bowls each at

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 3>the dorm and I'm like, oh my god. Although I

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 3>couldn't have that milk with the lactose issue, but like, oh.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 4>When I was watching it, I was like, do I

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 4>have Cereal? Like it's so appetizing, Like.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 3>You're lying if you tell me you didn't want cereal

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 3>after this episode, So I.

0:46:57.960 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Was like I didn't want Cereal?

0:46:59.560 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh my.

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what I wanted. I wanted

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a cigar glass of whiskey, some boys, and and some cash.

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Just because we can. Can everybody just say their favorite cereal,

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 3>like their favorite healthy cereal and their favorite sugar cereal

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>just for for me to enjoy.

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, honey bunches of oats and cocoa pebbles.

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 5>Okay, mine is rice crispy and lucky charms.

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh mine, cheerios and fruit loops.

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a toss up between sugar pops and

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Captain Crunch. Don't capa Captain Crunch would like carve up

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the roof of your mouth though if you ate it

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>too many days in a row. But good stuff, good stuff.

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Captain Crunch is good on yogurt.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 5>You know what, do they still like apple jacks?

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, yeah, these were good.

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Those were good.

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I just remember that honey grams.

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I diagrem Now I have to look this up.

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.320
<v Speaker 3>But that might be the final appearance by Janet. Somebody

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 3>just google that. I there if you google a like

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 3>trivia from this episode, I think that jam It's final appearance.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 3>She might only have one more.

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it's a big question.

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting question. So should we talk about the

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 3>ribbons for a minute?

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Amazing, everyone picking, everyone picking? Literally. I love when I

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 3>think Laura says to Tailor, I'll deal with you later.

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 3>And then Rory goes and gets the ribbons, just the.

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Whole Wait, no, but what would you guys pick? Like

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 4>what ribbons? Are you guys?

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 1>We already picked?

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 3>No, we haven't.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Really, I'm wearing a beautiful blue right here.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm blue.

0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry, you guys, are you pink? I cannot.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I have to wear pink. I'm so sorry. She's my

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 3>soul sister, like I so sorry, like Lorelai is my

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 3>whatever the word is, muse all of it. I'm just

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.240
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with her, even though I think she made mistakes.

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I just I have to wear the pink.

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I have to, all right, So what are your next

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>podcasts you do with her? It's called I'm All Pink.

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 4>That's what we shipped. We should have worn our little ribbon.

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm wearing pink today. And also when she

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 3>pops her head out of the limo and the honking

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.760
<v Speaker 3>and it's Luke and she's like, I'm not usually.

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 4>That was funny.

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the whole episode is just like amazing. I

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 3>don't know, do you guys feel like, I mean, did

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 3>we skip anything? Like I know we kind of broke format,

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 3>but it's like I think we had to in this

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just too big.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I think we hit all the big beats. I mean

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I have one. Yeah, you in the.

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Front row, supporter Lorelei supporter.

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, go ahead.

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I want the middle.

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I want the what the middle?

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 3>When she says I don't want to grow old together

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and just have that she wants the middle.

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want the middle, then make a make

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a choice and commit to a guy.

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I mean, look, you make a point.

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 3>If she wanted the middle, she should have.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be uh, you know, a middle type traveler,

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know you've got to have the stuff to

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>get to the middle. You know, anything could have happened.

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And Luke's mind, he's losing his mind, right, He's like,

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 1>anything could have happened there. Now. What he's saying is

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to himself, is what else happened that she's not telling me.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to know. He just wants to get away.

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I also felt that because we didn't talk about him

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 3>too much, the Rory Lorelei scenes in the bed were

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 3>really beautiful and really painful. And she really I mean

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 3>because that I've been there, and you do you literally

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 3>just cannot get out of bed, you cannot eat, you

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 3>cannot move and you're just and then finally like there's

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>a sign of life that you like, tip, take a

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 3>sip of water, like you're just like it's yeah.

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>But the thing that moved me so much about her

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>performance was that she really honored her feelings about the relationship, yeah,

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and the importance of that relationship to her life. So

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>she did that courageous thing in an acting sense and

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>really really went through all those emotions for us in

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>front of the camera. And it was it was breathtaking

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to watch even those scenes with Rory. I thought they

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>were they were measured and textured and kind of tone perfect,

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, and there was like you could you could

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>see this little ray of hope or light coming out

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and even though she was still very depressed, you know,

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was just it was heart wrenching to.

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Words that really it was.

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It was she really really is terrific.

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Brief but great appearance by Lane not wearing.

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Glasses, wearing glasses, but also.

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 3>Just saying the best purchases toll House cookie dough and

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 3>chocolate covered matza. I was like, wow, she knows what

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 3>snacks to add and the new toothbrush.

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Am I did I read this wrong? That when I

0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 4>saw it on TV. But Rory wore a shirt that

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 4>said sex is.

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Reading reading Sexy.

0:52:56.040 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I did not see that. I did not even yes, yes, the.

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.760
<v Speaker 1>New Sexy or something like that, Oh my god.

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Is reading. We need a screenshot of that. See that?

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 3>And I you know, look when when Laura says you

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 3>can't go to the store, the town's going to be

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 3>all over you, and she's like, I've got reinforcements, and

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>then it's Laine and they're in this limo. The whole

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 3>thing was just like basically perfect. How many dream was

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 3>so painful?

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, that was almost like a film, like a

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 1>film by Kirk. Yes, but it was, but it wasn't

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in that. I've had those kinds of dreams, have you.

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Or you wake up and you're.

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh my god, it's just so yes, Yes, I

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 3>have so many dreams like that, And sometimes I'm like,

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 3>that happened. What's What's I mean?

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 1>The magnitude of that loss, the magnitude of that loss,

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that was a very you know, there was a scene

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in Oh God, what's the uh, the famous Dustin Hoffman

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and Bancroft movie The Graduate. Yeah, they did stuff like

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that in that film.

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not a fan of a dream sequence

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 3>other than in this show, because the other dream that

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 3>was so good was their first kiss was in a dream.

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Remember that this show knows how to do a dream

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>like because they it can be kind of annoying. But

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 3>this one, I'm like.

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, No, that's That's when I felt the loss

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the most. Is in that dream when he was sitting

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen watching TV and he was dressed as

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Luke and she came down and he wasn't responding at all,

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like, yeah.

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Say something, Yeah, I thought it was and and he says,

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching something stupid and she's like, this isn't stupid.

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Here's the shirt. Wait, that's an amazing

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 3>shirt eating it's sexy. Oh my god, how do I

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 3>find that? Sure, if I could find all the.

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Fashions, just an email Brenda, she'll tell you.

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Lor Lai has that amazing tan sweater she's wearing at

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the inn with the thing on the back. It's like,

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>because she's doing the scene in the refrigerator, So whoever

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 3>dressed her was so brilliant knowing we were going to

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 3>be looking at her back. And then they put this

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of emblem on the back of the sweater. But anyway,

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, this is a great episode.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, what how are we rating it?

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Ten pink ribbons, pink Danielle.

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 4>Nine point nine to five chocolate covered months of Ale or.

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 3>It's nine point nine five year highest you've ever given

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:45.479
<v Speaker 3>the show?

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 4>No, I think Bracebridge Dinner Dinner was a ten out

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 4>of ten foot oh wow, still holding up for me.

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 4>I loved that episode.

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give this ten out of ten.

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Luke Broken Hearts painful and Tara we didn't We didn't

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 3>forget Tara. She had to run off for an emergency.

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 3>But it's not like an emergency emergency. I think it

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 3>was like a podcast.

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh she just texted me. She increases with me. Ten

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 1>out of ten. Luke Broken Hearts?

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wait, does anybody have any favorite they love when

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 3>we do favorite lines? Does anybody have any that we

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't do? I mean mine is not funny, but it's

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 3>so like when she's just drama, it's over. I really

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 3>screwed up. He could have been the Wane, Like I

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 3>just was like, oh.

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, mine was the drama too, but it was with

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:41.359
<v Speaker 4>adocies between Luke and Laura Leon and Luke being like

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 4>it's too much.

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mine too. Yeah, Yeah, it's too much. It's too much,

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it's too overwhelming. It's too much for any one person

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to have to tolerate, you know.

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Still, like when she told Taylor, I'll deal with you later.

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He's got a huge responsibility. He's got to feed the

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:05.959
<v Speaker 1>people of stars Hollow. That's a big job. He's got

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:07.399
<v Speaker 1>to have his act together to do that.

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, well, I know we have to go, but

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 3>you're right, and look at what happened to her, Like

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 3>she screwed up her job because of this, and it's

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of like he's not gonna let this be his undoing.

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>As they say, all right, everybody, that's gonna wrap us up.

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Next episode, Season five, episode fifteen, Jews and Chinese Food.

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>We will see you then. Thank you, ladies, Danielle Romo

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and Sugarman and the now dearly not dearly departed. That's

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong with me, all right. That's what you get when

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you leave where you click out early.

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 7>You know, y.

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 3>My Logan, I'm sorry, I know, y'all Logan haters Logan

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 3>and Rory are I love them together?

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I do too. That's how to add that it's exciting

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to see them in scenes together. Their's spots are flying. Yeah, yeah,

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so great. Isn't he great? Yes, isn't great to watch?

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 4>He's great to watch. She's just a little questionable, but

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 4>he's great to watch it. I can't get my eyes

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 4>off the screen.

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 1>One good. Everything flows so smoothly.

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 3>It's crops to Liza. While is that how you say?

0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say it wrong. Paris. You know

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 3>she's bound her way with Paris. Now she's nailing it,

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, like this is the Paris that really I love.

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 3>She's a hint more vulnerable, she's a hint more sas,

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 3>she's a hint more funny, caustic. She was nothing but

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 3>a pleasure to watch in this episode for me too.

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 3>So yep, ten out of ten pink ribbons.

0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's gonna do it. Thank you, everybody, best

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>fans on the planet. Thanks for downloading all of us.

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Keep the cards and letters and emails coming. We read everything.

0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We take it all to heart.

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we sure do. Cried a little when I read

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the Instagram comments.

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, sometimes they ruin our day, but they.

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Know how Laura was. Yeah, they make us better podcasters.

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, Laura in this episode, that was

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 3>me reading our instagram.

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.439
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I'm Luke and dosies being cornered by Laura

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying reading the instagram, saying it's too much.

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Love you guys, best fans on the planet. See you

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>next time.

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:56.560
<v Speaker 7>Stay safe, everybody, and don't forget.

0:59:56.640 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.