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Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio one O Lemon Production, Season five, Episode fourteen, Say Something?

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Speaker 1: What an episode? I am joined by my intrepid crew,

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Speaker 1: Tarus Food, Daniel Romo, and Santa Monica and Amy Sugarman

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Speaker 1: representing Lake Tahoe. Ladies welcome, say something, don't speak.

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Speaker 3: I just want to know how y'all feel about that episode.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was a home run.

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Speaker 1: I think it was I agree big, I agree big

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Speaker 1: home run.

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Speaker 3: Raise your hand if you cried?

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Speaker 1: What did I get a little for clemped?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 1: Who got for clemped?

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Speaker 4: Why did I not think it was emotional? In the slightest?

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Speaker 3: What really talking about?

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Speaker 1: I thought Lauren gave a knockout performance in this agree

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Speaker 1: she did some very very detailed, very difficult work.

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Speaker 4: I'm just very much on Luke's page. So for me,

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Speaker 4: it's like, sorry, girlfriend, I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 3: You messed it up?

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Speaker 1: She did? I agree with you there, she messed it up.

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Speaker 4: I don't feel sad about it.

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Speaker 3: What I feel devastated about it?

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Speaker 4: For me, I'm kind of like, you go, Luke. You

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Speaker 4: you stand your ground and you do your thing, because

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Speaker 4: what happened, like you didn't deserve any of that.

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Speaker 1: It Luke's the one that got Ama got wounded deepest,

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Speaker 1: don't you think. I mean, imagine being him in that

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Speaker 1: scenario when he hears all those horrible things coming out

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Speaker 1: of Christopher's mouth at a certain point, It's like it

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Speaker 1: was like this perfect storm of bad for Luke sitting here,

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Speaker 1: sitting there hearing that and what these people really think

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Speaker 1: of him. I mean, he must have felt so low

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Speaker 1: and so used and so abused that it was and he's.

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Speaker 4: Been waiting forever for this. That's the worst part too,

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Speaker 4: Like he has been in her corner since the beginning

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Speaker 4: of time and has been waiting for this moment he

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Speaker 4: finally gets his shot at being in a relationship with Lorlai,

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Speaker 4: and there's all these external forces making it not happen.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just like including Lorelai, like she's you know,

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Speaker 4: throwing fuel on the fire too.

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Speaker 3: So here's my question for you guys. And I know

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Speaker 3: this is going to be like unpopular opinion that everyone

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Speaker 3: like attacks me of the crimes that were committed. Do

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Speaker 3: we agree hers was the least?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Sure?

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Speaker 1: No, why do is? Why is hers the least?

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Speaker 3: Because hey, what Christopher did was horrific. What Emily did

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Speaker 3: was exponentially horrific. Lorala I omitted, we can say omitted lied.

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Speaker 3: She didn't essentially though, to protect Luke's feelings. It was wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I mean I did it to avoid the

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Speaker 1: drama for herself.

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Speaker 4: She literally did it for herself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you guys that your opinion

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Speaker 1: is she is her heart a little bit with Christopher.

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Speaker 1: I know that night she sort of ended it and

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Speaker 1: get away from me and all. But before that even happened, Yes,

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Speaker 1: before Emily you know scheme right, And that's and that's

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Speaker 1: what I think hit Luke in the face the hardest. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like your heart, your heart, there's a part of

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Speaker 1: you that is always going to be with him.

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Speaker 5: Well, even in the episode, Laura I said that I'll

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Speaker 5: never speak to him again, and Luke is like that

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Speaker 5: it's not possible, Like it's it's your daughter's father.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Luke is very clear headed about the situation. He's very clear,

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Speaker 3: do think they could have worked it out in the moment.

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Speaker 3: he was at the house. But we'll get to that.

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Speaker 3: He's being very pragmagical. Logical's right word. Yeah, I mean, Scott,

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Speaker 3: are you with Luke or do you? Were you screaming

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Speaker 3: like Luke? Just take her back, accept her apology. I

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Speaker 1: I've been in that situation. That's how you react. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get to psychological.

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Speaker 3: There, but no do.

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Speaker 1: He felt completely erased. He felt insignificant and small, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't even guarder enough respect from Laura Lei to

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Speaker 4: And the worst part is that she also said that she,

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Speaker 4: if I'm recalling this correctly, that she would she was

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Speaker 4: that's like, oh, so you weren't going to tell him anyways.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's almost like somebody trying to make a

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Speaker 1: i'm your friend and I'm cashing in all my chips here,

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Speaker 1: but can you save my ass in this situation with you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just so bad.

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Speaker 1: It's such a bad look.

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Speaker 3: The problem for Lorla is that she did it twice.

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Speaker 3: That's really my problem is, like because I really can

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff was Christopher and Emily and not

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Speaker 4: Here's a question, do you think that it would have

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Speaker 4: been as bad all the Christopher stuff that happened in

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Speaker 4: the last episode. If Lorala had told Luke about this,

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Speaker 4: about their hangout in it the day that she was hungover,

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Speaker 5: It would be a completely different situation.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be a different situation too. And

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Speaker 4: so you know, like in that moment when Christopher went

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Speaker 3: I think it would have been Luke and Loreli against

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Speaker 3: And maybe Luke would have felt differently about when Laura

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Speaker 3: Li said I'm just gonna have nothing to do with them.

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Speaker 3: Luke maybe would have said, all right, let's we're going

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Speaker 1: But I think Luke and I think that's what a

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Speaker 1: their world and like, walk away from your world. Let's

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Speaker 1: create our own world and we'll be safe inside of

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Speaker 1: our little bubble. I don't And Luke didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: He accommodated her at every turn. He was willing to

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Speaker 1: Here and there, he took all the slings and arrows right,

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Speaker 1: all the insults coming from Richard and all the dismissive stuff.

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Speaker 1: And oh, Luke, I didn't even see you there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know Christopher and she and her heart is still

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Speaker 1: with Christopher. I understands, you know, the father of their

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Speaker 3: I think like her brain knows he's a mess and

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Speaker 3: bad and this was bad, but it's like her heart

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Speaker 3: is connected to him she can't help it. That being said,

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Speaker 3: I think her heart is much more with Luke. Obviously

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Speaker 3: the pain she's in I could feel it through this episode.

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Speaker 1: But it's got to be trust or else what do

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Speaker 1: you have?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. In your heart, it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: There can't be any doubt, you know. And it's just like,

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Speaker 1: and especially something that intense coming from him, he's waited

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Speaker 1: that long and he's right. He's this particular guy and

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Speaker 1: loves her to the ends of the earth and was

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Speaker 1: always a great loyal friend and now he's even a

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Speaker 1: better man with her went now that yeare together, and

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Speaker 1: it's just all great. And he's just he's an all

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Speaker 3: It's yes, it's almost like she's saying, I'm all in.

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Speaker 1: It's recipation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's saying it in desperation, but I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: I'm all in. Like, but it's like, if you were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, what's your code? You have no code?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So so here's my question. And I know we

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Speaker 3: need to go through it in order. But the thing

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Speaker 3: way of dealing with it. I need space, I turned,

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Speaker 3: He needs time, and she is just like I would be.

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Speaker 3: We need to talk about it now. Can we please

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Speaker 3: talk about it now? I need to fix this. I

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Speaker 3: need to fix this up. Like if we just talk

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Speaker 3: fix this. I can fix this. Just the desperation and

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Speaker 3: the message she left was just like hashtag relatable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I felt like I was watching me and my husband,

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Speaker 4: like I thought I was watching my own relationship on TV.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, who's who?

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm more that's.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm here to talk about it all day long. And

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Speaker 4: my husband's like I need I need to be away

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Speaker 4: from you for it least an hour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it was so relatable. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that's because Amy and Dan just can write

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Speaker 3: men and women so well or what wait, speaking of

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Speaker 3: we just saw a note that we haven't even done

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Speaker 3: this anop.

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Speaker 1: System, you know what? I think Amy and Dan wrote

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Speaker 1: their own relationship. Yeah, because I think the relationship, or

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Speaker 1: a large percent of relationships go through this is she Lauralish.

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Speaker 1: I think she's Parish.

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Speaker 3: I don't expect that.

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Speaker 1: I don't either, And I think I think I think

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Speaker 1: Dan is a Kirk Doyle.

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Speaker 3: Really, so you see more similarities in that relationship than

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Speaker 3: Luke and Lauraai.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, no way, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that.

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Speaker 3: That makes that spinoff idea you had of them even

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Speaker 3: more interesting. Wow. Okay, we twenty minutes in. We better

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Speaker 3: read the synopsis.

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Speaker 4: All right? This is season five, episode fourteen, Say Something,

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Speaker 4: Air date February fifteenth, two thousand and five. After all

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Speaker 4: the drama at the wedding, Loralai tries to find Luke

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Speaker 4: After Loralai keeps pushing him, he finally decides her family

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Speaker 4: and history maybe too much for him.

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Speaker 3: She takes to.

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Speaker 4: Her bed to wallow, where Rory tends to her needs

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Speaker 4: and the town takes sides.

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Speaker 3: Oh so, two quick notes. I want to see what

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Speaker 3: you guys think. Number One, Normally those last week on

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Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls or previously on Gilbirls are kind of like whatever,

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Speaker 3: But this one I was like ten out of ten.

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Speaker 4: The Reah was well, I feel like because they kind

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Speaker 4: happened that led into this episode.

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Speaker 3: They picked the perfect moments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was They kind of did this in the

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Speaker 3: The story stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dean, you know, like it was like a kind

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Speaker 4: of a redo of that. I liked it a lot.

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Speaker 3: And the thing that I loved the most is that

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Speaker 3: the episode began exactly to the moment where the one

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Speaker 3: you film it all as one? But I don't know, Scott,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can remember, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Like film at all as one?

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Speaker 3: Like did you film the beginning of this episode when

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Speaker 3: you filmed the end of the last one?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Sure? Yeah, you don't want to go back to

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Speaker 1: that location and spend all that money and exactly rent

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Speaker 1: out the same location and just do it while you're there? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just thought that was amazing, Like, so that

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Speaker 3: I really thought Rory and Logan were really cute in

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Speaker 3: Laura I and Rory had that moment, even despite all

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Speaker 3: It's all like you've got nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to be mad at Laura I. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and gosh, man, I mean she's she's anyway. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: let's let's stay on the topic. But I just it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she got five of them right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean she's taken on a lot, and but she

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm heartbroken for the One thing I noticed on

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Speaker 2: She's in college.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like we didn't.

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Speaker 3: But I half.

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Speaker 4: And half yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean. The other thing that shocked me in the

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Speaker 3: that dress that Laura I was wearing. Oh I was

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Speaker 3: like ten out of ten. Oh my god. People hated it.

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Speaker 3: They said it looked cheap. They didn't like the sequin thing.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I thought it was very Laurai

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Speaker 1: But for that occasion, is that inappropriate?

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Speaker 3: You thought it was a little too sassy, kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think so I think I do.

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Speaker 1: What do I know about fashion and what's appropriate to This.

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Speaker 3: Rory go find Logan. I'm fine. You know, Luke's bringing

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Speaker 3: She's just such a love.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: One thing that threw me, did you guys notice when

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Speaker 3: when did that happen?

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Speaker 1: But whatever?

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Speaker 3: How you guys though, what a moment for Caesar. That

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Speaker 1: For Caesar in the background singing and dancing the.

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Speaker 1: It was so good. Lenny great that that was like

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Speaker 3: And I do think it was very I don't know

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Speaker 6: Oh immediately and even Caesar's like, why aren't what's going on?

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Speaker 3: He killed totally funny, he nailed it.

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Speaker 4: He's just so good and because they brought it back

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Speaker 4: to Taylor like they were like, Taylor's going to think everybody.

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Speaker 3: So I thought that whole part of it was brilliant,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I loved it. I really, Paris is

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Speaker 4: Of course that that game does make you sweaty.

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Speaker 5: I used to have the one at home, like you know,

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Speaker 3: So if I say Scott, just forgive me. But I

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Speaker 1: Well? How many other places are there to go at

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Speaker 1: To get away from his diner, Like his diner's probably

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Speaker 3: It's not late to me too. It feels like it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's just you know, it was his one

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Speaker 3: Did anyone want him to forgive her as much as

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Speaker 5: I think I think I did agree, like he needs time,

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Speaker 3: I just feel like the punishment is way worse than

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Speaker 4: I just I need Lorli to realize, like she can't

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Speaker 4: kind of like, no, I want Luke to like have

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Speaker 1: I think that the the incident, the quote unquote lie,

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Speaker 1: It just it just hits every sour note in his soul,

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Speaker 1: It's like there's another guy involved. There's this this evil

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Speaker 1: what am I? What am I doing here? What is?

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Speaker 1: What is I don't have a chance in this family.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a chance for me. And he gave his

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Speaker 1: He's doing the best he can, being the assault of

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Speaker 3: Now I just have so much compassion, probably because I

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Speaker 3: Just let's let's not lie to each other ever again,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's like he did it last time, you know what

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Speaker 4: he's got to remove himself from that situation.

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00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a part of Laurel I

440
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: that feels like she can sort of compartmentalize her feelings

441
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: towards Luke, Like here's friendship Luke before the relationship here's

442
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: romantic Luke and you know, and it's it's like, do

443
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: you think maybe she got confused in this moment, And

444
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: it's like I can rely on friendship Luke not to

445
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: care and just support me one hundred percent and be

446
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: used to that. And now that the rules of change,

447
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: the rule have changed, maybe she's not acknowledging that the

448
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: rules have changed because she's so fond of both Luke's

449
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: and this is obviously a new, fresh relationship, but she's

450
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: been bonded with him as a friend.

451
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 3: I didn't think of that, But that's a very interesting

452
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: sort of angle there, that like, because this would have

453
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: been really no big whoop if they were just friends.

454
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: The other thing I think about.

455
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: Would have been supportive and like stupid. You know.

456
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: Loralai is sort of the bell of the ball, right,

457
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: the queen of the town. Like she's sort of the ship, right,

458
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: So I think sometimes she thinks she can get herself

459
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: out of any mess, almost like I can't think of

460
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: a good analogy. For some reason, Lucy came to mind,

461
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 3: everything will be okay, is causing shenanigans, but in the

462
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: end she can.

463
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Because she's so lovable, she's so fabulous and so glittera right.

464
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think this was a real life slap

465
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: in the face or sort of awakening for her to realize, like,

466
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: I can't just behave however I want to behave. I

467
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: can't just go get drunk with Christopher and think it

468
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: won't have ramifications. Yeah, she's a little bit of a

469
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: sixteen year old I was just about thirty five year

470
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: old body.

471
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: It's kind of like she's where Rory. I mean, I

472
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 5: feel like if Rory did this, we wouldn't be as

473
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: hard on her. I mean, yes we would, because she's

474
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 5: old enough. But this is Laura I were talking about.

475
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: I think if this relationship were to have a second chance, right,

476
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: if there was a reconciliation, I think too, they would

477
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: have to sit down and really map out what's acceptable

478
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: and what isn't in terms of Christopher, in terms of

479
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: the family, I mean, really define it, you know, and

480
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: have you know, not necessarily rules, But this is but expectations,

481
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I want to see

482
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: them get back together. Obviously they feel very deeply for

483
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: each other. They're really great together, and justifiably she's feeling

484
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: all of this angst and she should came, but I

485
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: think they need to map it out.

486
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: Is there any okay? I have so many questions for

487
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: you guys. Number one, it's almost like Lorla has never

488
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: had to be accountable, if that's the right word to anyone.

489
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: Like she always was sort of at odds with her

490
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: parents and then she's been on her own since sixteen

491
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 3: and the only person she really was accountable to was Rory,

492
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: who she was taking care of, right, But she's never

493
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: had to really yeah, Suki in a sense, but like

494
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: even that relationship has troubles with like being fully transparent

495
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 3: with each other, which we think about, like the arguments

496
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: they had running the inn. It's like she's never had

497
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: to know what it's like to treat someone with so

498
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 3: much respect or put someone else above her, Like, am

499
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: I crazy? Or am I sort of like.

500
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying.

501
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, so she is

502
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: adjusting to that.

503
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: So the other question I wanted to ask you guys,

504
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: say that the crime, because I still think the punishment

505
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: is a little worse than the crime, But say the

506
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: crime is only that she never told Luke about the

507
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: drunken night with Christopher and that she sprung it on

508
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: and at the wedding, right, Pretend the rest of the

509
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: bleep didn't hit the fan, meaning Rory never got caught

510
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: like making out with Logan, Christopher never ran in, Christopher

511
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: never spewed all that crap, And pretend Emily never did

512
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: what she did. Right, Pretend none of that happened. Do

513
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: we think Luke would have still been Eke, this gone

514
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: this far? Would you have still broken up with Lorli

515
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: over just the line?

516
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 5: But are you saying that the thing before wouldn't have happened,

517
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: that the lunch.

518
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: The lunch happened, and this has happened, but none of

519
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: the extra stuff, not Emily.

520
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: I think that Yeah. I think that it would have

521
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: been the same outcome. I think Luke would have been

522
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: devastated and he would have taken his time and separated

523
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: and really processed it, because that's what he does.

524
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 3: I want. The thing is is that he thinks right.

525
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: He like not flipped, but he like put on a

526
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: brave face and like, you know, acted cool that whole

527
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: night up until that very end. I don't think he

528
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: would have broken up with her. I think he would

529
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: have been like, hey, we need to talk about this

530
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: and it cannot happen again.

531
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think he.

532
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Would have been strict and stern and very like, you

533
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: cannot do this again, you know, I'm annoyed.

534
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Can you all weigh in for Luke? Is he most

535
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: upset about the lies or is it all of it

536
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: that he's just like, yeah, all of it, it's all bad.

537
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: But I think the lie is a big part of

538
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: I think the lie is a big part of it though,

539
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 5: But Scott, You're like.

540
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: The.

541
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: Lie is bad enough. And then he hears Christopher say,

542
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Emily put me up to this and we still have

543
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: a chance, and Emily, you know, and Luke's garbage and yeah,

544
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: it's like he's not one of us, and it Lukes

545
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: just absorbing all this stuff.

546
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

547
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it all because it's so.

548
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Like anybody in their right mind would hear that and

549
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: just say I'm at it.

550
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you had confidence, you would go, I don't

551
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: need this.

552
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm better than this. Right.

553
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: I think that everything that happened that night were valid

554
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: fears of Luke's. Like Luke had all those things already

555
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: in his mind. Emily doesn't like me. I'm not good

556
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: enough for Emily or or Richard she's you know, does

557
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: is there anything still with Christopher? Like do I need

558
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: to worry about that? Like he had all those thoughts

559
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: in his brain already, and that night, literally all those

560
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: things slapped him across the face. Yeah, and that's when

561
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: he literally was like, you know, these concerns I had

562
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: that I was suppressing and trying to say, I'm going

563
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: to give this relationship a shot and I trust Laurel, I,

564
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: you know, to help me through this all came crumbling down.

565
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, think of it like there, you know, his feeling,

566
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: his feelings, his love for her, his devotion for her

567
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: is like this sort of thread that is, you know,

568
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: a thousand feet in the air, and he keeps walking

569
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: out there and he lives on that thread for her,

570
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: and he trusts her. Yeah, and her commitment to him

571
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: is what in their mutual commitment keeps that thread st strong.

572
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: And it just all got pulled out. It just dissolved,

573
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and he fell and he hid his head and he

574
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it again. It's terrifying.

575
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he already was terrified anyway.

576
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: But and he's and he's all we've seen that he's

577
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: really good at being alone. Yeah, Yeah, he can handle it.

578
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Scott, You're right.

579
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: He can handle it, and right he might even prefer that. Yeah,

580
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: but he but but he must have really, he must

581
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: really love her to go out on that thread with

582
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: her and like we can both do this, and I'm

583
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: gonna if you go back to your parents' house or

584
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: you do this or that, I'm always gonna have We're

585
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: always going to be holding hands on this thread. Its

586
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: thread's going to be here for you. Don't worry about it.

587
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: But then when she you lie like that, Wow, it

588
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: goes away there. He has no there's no pathway back

589
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: to her now. It doesn't matter how upset she gets.

590
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he knows, and he probably feels bad

591
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: that she's upset. Obviously showed up over there. Yes he

592
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: still cares about her, but as a romantic entanglement.

593
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: Oh that I know we're going out of order, but

594
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: I have to ask this, did any part of you

595
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: want him to just when he went running over there

596
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: as friend Luke, which I like how you're sort of

597
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: describing that that to me was the moment for her

598
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: instead of doing what she did where she's like this

599
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: is my lowest low I'm crazy I'll never do it again.

600
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: I get it, we can be done. What I wanted

601
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: her to say was I made such a mistake, I

602
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: will never do it again. I love you, And then

603
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: I wanted him to reunite with her in that moment.

604
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: I do think it was possible. Yes, you don't know

605
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: that differently.

606
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Amy, You're like me. I believe in love. Yeah, I

607
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: think believe in the power love. If she had just

608
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: expressed herself and opened her heart up, and I mean

609
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: he could have seen her completely exposed, completely, yes, and

610
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: showing the best part of herself to him, Yes, I

611
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: am I think that, and he s would have done

612
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the same. He probably would have responded the same.

613
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

614
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: I felt I'll tell you.

615
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: I think that he was being very authentically Louke right,

616
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: but she was not being authentic to herself. She suddenly

617
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: became so embarrassed by her vulnerability that she did that

618
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: sort of mass brave loralai thing she does where she's like,

619
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: I'll never do it again. I'm humiliated.

620
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: She bothers me that she made it about her, because

621
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: like I think, at this moment, it's not about her,

622
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: It's about and I think that's why like I think

623
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 5: I was. I felt for her because I know she's

624
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: in love with Luke, but I felt worse for Luke

625
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 5: because she was like, this is my low. Well, clearly

626
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: Luke is feeling low too.

627
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: I was disappointed her in the end. I didn't mind

628
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: the lora lie that was panicking and chasing him and

629
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: saying how long. And I think the grocery store and

630
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: the whole thing and the phone message. I related and

631
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: support that one. I was disappointed in the way she

632
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: acted at the end of this episode, when that was

633
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: her moment. He was there. He was showing her, despite

634
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: what you did, I still have your back. I came

635
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: running over. I broke and he shut up. I showed up.

636
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: I think that would she blew it more then than

637
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: she did.

638
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: She still had shot.

639
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he showed her you can, you can give give

640
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: us a shot, and he went. He went percent of

641
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: the way, you know what I mean.

642
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pretty dis like that's I know people

643
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: get very emotional over this episode, but my emotion is

644
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: coming up now because I'm I'm so bummed the way

645
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: she acted at the end. It's like, you love this guy,

646
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 3: we get it, we saw your pain. You're in the bed,

647
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: you're crying. The not just the performance was amazing, but

648
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: I would believed it. I believed her pain. Then why

649
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: did you do that? At the end, he came, he

650
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: showed you you got a chance.

651
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: Well, it's just funny because this whole episode she's like

652
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 4: literally going after him right like, he's saying, I need time,

653
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: I need time, and she's like, but let me fix it,

654
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: let me do this, let me do that. And then

655
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: at the end she's like, I heard you when you

656
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: said you were out, and I'm going to respect that.

657
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: It's like if she.

658
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: If she doesn't know how to fix it and the

659
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: fix is obvious, right, Yeah, then is that relationship a

660
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: good idea to begin with? Maybe that's you know, you

661
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: go through these things with people. They can be very

662
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: intense and very passionate, and they can feel like forever,

663
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: and then something happens where the rubber hits the road

664
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: and the stuff hits the fan and you find out

665
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: their character, you know, and one flash of a moment

666
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: when and can it just can get all wiped away

667
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: so quickly.

668
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 4: And I didn't realize how much that last scene bothered

669
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: me until now me too.

670
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm rarely disappointed in.

671
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: Laura, and she made it about her, yeah, and her

672
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: feelings toward him and what.

673
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 5: Yeh, Because like when she was in bed, I felt

674
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: bad for her and Rory comes like that part. I

675
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 5: felt for her as like someone who's heartbroken. And as

676
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 5: it went on, I was just like, I don't really

677
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: feel as bad for her because there's it's there's two sides, right,

678
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 5: I mean, sorry, there's two people in this relationship and

679
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: you need equal sides to be way.

680
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: To gather at the end too. That was her moment

681
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: to like break down, like cry, be emotional, show him.

682
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Dement.

683
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 4: She was like it was her time to say something,

684
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: guys man speak out anything.

685
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: That was the moment where she just pours it all out.

686
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: And he just picks her up and she's already left

687
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: this message. Then I actually didn't find the message that asinine.

688
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: Like I was like, you know what, it's not your

689
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: finest moment, but the message, but it's very Laurel.

690
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I Why wasn't she Why wasn't she happy when she

691
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: saw him?

692
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would have been ecstatic and just

693
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: had maybe.

694
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: She just folded the tent and concede defeat and I'm

695
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: going to respect you now.

696
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: Yes, you came, he came. Luke came to your house

697
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: that ending. Really, I was like, it tracks, that's very

698
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: Loralai of what she did there at the end. But

699
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, you blew it now, girl, I'm not. I

700
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: wasn't even that mad. I was the one defender of

701
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: her lie. I'm like, I'm taking a lot of heat

702
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: on Instagram for that, but was upsetting for me for her.

703
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: I thought Luke was a ten out of ten. This

704
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: guy has just once again proven how awesome he is

705
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: and that he's so upset and hurt, but he still

706
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: came running.

707
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I care. That was probably my

708
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: best shot to get on the poster, but it still

709
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't get me on the poster. And I showed my

710
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: heart to the producers. So I'm like, I love you,

711
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: I love That's give the poster.

712
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 3: We do need to talk about the dolls.

713
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Want to get your salary.

714
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: You were awesome this episode the poster. You were awesome

715
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 3: in this episode. She was brilliant, but so were you.

716
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: Like you two are so leveled up in this episode

717
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 3: with like performances.

718
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: You know what, thank you because I'll tell you the

719
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: scene in Dosies Market I really like that scene. It

720
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: was so good. I really liked Luke and he you know,

721
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: he underplayed everything and.

722
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she overplayed it just like she needed to.

723
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: But it was a god. We were so good together,

724
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: weren't we.

725
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that scene was so relatable and real because you

726
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: were being you know, male, pretty male.

727
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: About gonna say this, if these people don't get their

728
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: acts together and do more episodes, they're insane. This is gold.

729
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: This stuff is gold, and I.

730
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: Think you could do it so much better this time.

731
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Okay, let's talk about a little bit of

732
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: a comic relief here. The doll party to me was amazing.

733
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: It was net It did give me a bit of

734
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: a breath to have Michelle and the woman with well

735
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: it's six girls and six dolls, you know, and more

736
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Lin's just In and the little pancakes and Michelle is

737
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: just like is she psychoedic?

738
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: Like?

739
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: For me, that whole thing was really good. And then

740
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: the fact that Loralai screwed up and did not that

741
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: she she left up show up. Yeah, that's how devastated

742
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: she was. Okay, I do think that we need to

743
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: talk about Rory Logan because I think there's a lot

744
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: to unpack, so have at it. Who wants to start?

745
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: I mean he was just super cool and smooth like

746
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: he is.

747
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: And uh, the one thing that I will say is

748
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: Logan in the last episode like clearly said I'm not

749
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: going to give this to you, right, And so she's

750
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: asking him to hang out. He invites her to a

751
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: group hang where you know, a lot of people are there,

752
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: and she's upset about it, and it's like.

753
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: But at the end his explanation of it. Now, I

754
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: don't know if you'd call that gas lighting or really

755
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: kind of but his explanation, I was like, you had

756
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: a point. Like I was like, you make a great point.

757
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: He's like, so I had people over, but you want

758
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: to hang out and I didn't want to tell you no.

759
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he could have told her that on the phone.

760
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: What he Yeah, he could have said, hey, there's.

761
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: He was truly considerate. He would have said, listen him

762
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, I'd love to hang over. You can

763
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: come over, but you know, I'm playing poker with the

764
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: fellows and there's a couple of girls here too, and like,

765
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: come on over and hang if you want, but if

766
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: you don't want to, we can do it another time.

767
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 5: I do give I do give Rory some I think

768
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: the reason why I give her some credit is because

769
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: she's finally not just waiting around for people and like

770
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: stepping up and like I feel like we saw her

771
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 5: freshman year of college just like waiting around for Dean

772
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: or you know. Now she's kind of just like that's

773
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: the only thing I like about it. But I do.

774
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 5: I do think it was kind of now that you said,

775
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 5: I think it was a little bit of gas lighting.

776
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: A little bit it was, but it was also it

777
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: was also honest and it was very logan, but it

778
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: was a true explanation where he was saying, like, if

779
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: we're going to be together, like sometimes we're gonna hang

780
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: out with other people and you're cool with that, so

781
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: why are you not cool with it this time?

782
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: But you know, he also said last week like hey,

783
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 5: I'm not looking for anything, and.

784
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, so the thing that to me and he

785
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: was like, so do you just want to have sex

786
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: all the time?

787
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 6: Straight upset the.

788
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: Unpopular opinion again, But I am all in with that

789
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: guy because also when she had a moment of crisis,

790
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: he he is right there saving the day essentially in

791
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: a logan way, but it's not like he he cares

792
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: about he cares. He does he does.

793
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: There's also the aspect of you know a guy, you know,

794
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: college guys when they're dating or if they like somebody,

795
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that, you know. One of the true

796
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: tests of of of whether they want to really be

797
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: interested in this girls. Can they hang?

798
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

799
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Can they be a good hang? Are they a drag?

800
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: When they are? They like? Do they add to it?

801
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Are they do they mix well with my friends? You know?

802
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: It's a perfect kind of way to see what they're like.

803
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Correct. And also he's showing his friends that I'm cool

804
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: with Rory being around us. She's like in our group.

805
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm not hiding her away and just hooking up with her.

806
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 3: I'm not embarrassed by her. And also I think there's

807
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: a moment where one of the friends says something like

808
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: your girl about her, I'll steal your girl. I can't

809
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: remember something, but.

810
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: Kidd was like, if you go there was any phrase

811
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: to friends one you, kiddo is the phrase?

812
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: And he did it.

813
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: Oh man, the second he said that, I was like,

814
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: oh no, I did well.

815
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, just imagine how much life experience he's had

816
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: compared to to Rory in terms of.

817
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: But they're the same age.

818
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: But I know, but you know, this guy's on private

819
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: jets going he's going to say bars.

820
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: Guy, the guy that I love said that to me.

821
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: I was like, it's done. I've been friend zone. I

822
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: think I'd be fine.

823
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: I am with the Autara would be like, all right,

824
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: I think I think he has so much control right

825
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: now that he probably is toying.

826
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: With her a little bit there. Definitely is there's a

827
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: there's a little game going on here, but he's you know,

828
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: he's a guy who has to be careful, right, you know,

829
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: he wants to know that people are And she did

830
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of show her hand a little bit with the

831
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: with the Seymour Hirst thing, and she got all bubbly

832
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: and excited, and you know, he knows, right is she

833
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: in it for the money? Is she in it for

834
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: my connections? Or does she really think I'm all that?

835
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: You know, he has to know that.

836
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: One of the scenes that I love so much in

837
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: this episode is Janet and Alfia, which again this could

838
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: be who's Kevin, But I don't know if that was

839
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: the first time we met al Theia, but I love her.

840
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: That was amazing where Paris is like, look, we need

841
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: to ask them, like they know this stuff, and We'reor's

842
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: like I don't need their advice, and then all of

843
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: a sudden, she hears what they say to Paris and

844
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: she's like, excuse me, Like that was awesome.

845
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: She takes their advice, and then Logan calls her out

846
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: on it, like hangout is vague.

847
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 6: But it also was like pretty solid boy advice they

848
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 6: were giving intricate And also, can we talk about Emmy

849
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 6: Award winning appearance by Cereal?

850
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: Like there's so much Cereal in this and I was

851
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: like the fact that they took four bowls each at

852
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: the dorm and I'm like, oh my god. Although I

853
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: couldn't have that milk with the lactose issue, but like, oh.

854
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I was like, do I

855
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: have Cereal? Like it's so appetizing, Like.

856
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: You're lying if you tell me you didn't want cereal

857
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: after this episode, So I.

858
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: Was like I didn't want Cereal?

859
00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh my.

860
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I wanted. I wanted

861
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: a cigar glass of whiskey, some boys, and and some cash.

862
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: Just because we can. Can everybody just say their favorite cereal,

863
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: like their favorite healthy cereal and their favorite sugar cereal

864
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: just for for me to enjoy.

865
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: Okay, honey bunches of oats and cocoa pebbles.

866
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: Okay, mine is rice crispy and lucky charms.

867
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: Oh mine, cheerios and fruit loops.

868
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's a toss up between sugar pops and

869
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Captain Crunch. Don't capa Captain Crunch would like carve up

870
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: the roof of your mouth though if you ate it

871
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: too many days in a row. But good stuff, good stuff.

872
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: Captain Crunch is good on yogurt.

873
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: You know what, do they still like apple jacks?

874
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, these were good.

875
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Those were good.

876
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: I just remember that honey grams.

877
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: So anyway, I diagrem Now I have to look this up.

878
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: But that might be the final appearance by Janet. Somebody

879
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: just google that. I there if you google a like

880
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: trivia from this episode, I think that jam It's final appearance.

881
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: She might only have one more.

882
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a big question.

883
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: It's an interesting question. So should we talk about the

884
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: ribbons for a minute?

885
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: Sure?

886
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: Amazing, everyone picking, everyone picking? Literally. I love when I

887
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: think Laura says to Tailor, I'll deal with you later.

888
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: And then Rory goes and gets the ribbons, just the.

889
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: Whole Wait, no, but what would you guys pick? Like

890
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: what ribbons? Are you guys?

891
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: We already picked?

892
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: No, we haven't.

893
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: Really, I'm wearing a beautiful blue right here.

894
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm blue.

895
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, you guys, are you pink? I cannot.

896
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: I have to wear pink. I'm so sorry. She's my

897
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: soul sister, like I so sorry, like Lorelai is my

898
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: whatever the word is, muse all of it. I'm just

899
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 3: obsessed with her, even though I think she made mistakes.

900
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: I just I have to wear the pink.

901
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: I have to, all right, So what are your next

902
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: podcasts you do with her? It's called I'm All Pink.

903
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: That's what we shipped. We should have worn our little ribbon.

904
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm wearing pink today. And also when she

905
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: pops her head out of the limo and the honking

906
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: and it's Luke and she's like, I'm not usually.

907
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: That was funny.

908
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: I mean, the whole episode is just like amazing. I

909
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: don't know, do you guys feel like, I mean, did

910
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: we skip anything? Like I know we kind of broke format,

911
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: but it's like I think we had to in this

912
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: it's just too big.

913
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: I think we hit all the big beats. I mean

914
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: I have one. Yeah, you in the.

915
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: Front row, supporter Lorelei supporter.

916
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Yes, go ahead.

917
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 3: I want the middle.

918
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: I want the what the middle?

919
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: When she says I don't want to grow old together

920
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: and just have that she wants the middle.

921
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: Well, if you want the middle, then make a make

922
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: a choice and commit to a guy.

923
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, look, you make a point.

924
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: If she wanted the middle, she should have.

925
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: You gotta be uh, you know, a middle type traveler,

926
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: and you know you've got to have the stuff to

927
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: get to the middle. You know, anything could have happened.

928
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: And Luke's mind, he's losing his mind, right, He's like,

929
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: anything could have happened there. Now. What he's saying is

930
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: to himself, is what else happened that she's not telling me.

931
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to know. He just wants to get away.

932
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: I also felt that because we didn't talk about him

933
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: too much, the Rory Lorelei scenes in the bed were

934
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: really beautiful and really painful. And she really I mean

935
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: because that I've been there, and you do you literally

936
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: just cannot get out of bed, you cannot eat, you

937
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: cannot move and you're just and then finally like there's

938
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 3: a sign of life that you like, tip, take a

939
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: sip of water, like you're just like it's yeah.

940
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: But the thing that moved me so much about her

941
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: performance was that she really honored her feelings about the relationship, yeah,

942
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: and the importance of that relationship to her life. So

943
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: she did that courageous thing in an acting sense and

944
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: really really went through all those emotions for us in

945
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: front of the camera. And it was it was breathtaking

946
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: to watch even those scenes with Rory. I thought they

947
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: were they were measured and textured and kind of tone perfect,

948
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: you know, and there was like you could you could

949
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: see this little ray of hope or light coming out

950
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: and even though she was still very depressed, you know,

951
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: and it was just it was heart wrenching to.

952
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: Words that really it was.

953
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: It was she really really is terrific.

954
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: Brief but great appearance by Lane not wearing.

955
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: Glasses, wearing glasses, but also.

956
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: Just saying the best purchases toll House cookie dough and

957
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: chocolate covered matza. I was like, wow, she knows what

958
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: snacks to add and the new toothbrush.

959
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 4: Am I did I read this wrong? That when I

960
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: saw it on TV. But Rory wore a shirt that

961
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: said sex is.

962
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Reading reading Sexy.

963
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 3: I did not see that. I did not even yes, yes, the.

964
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: New Sexy or something like that, Oh my god.

965
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: Is reading. We need a screenshot of that. See that?

966
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: And I you know, look when when Laura says you

967
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 3: can't go to the store, the town's going to be

968
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: all over you, and she's like, I've got reinforcements, and

969
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: then it's Laine and they're in this limo. The whole

970
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: thing was just like basically perfect. How many dream was

971
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: so painful?

972
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that was almost like a film, like a

973
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: film by Kirk. Yes, but it was, but it wasn't

974
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: in that. I've had those kinds of dreams, have you.

975
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: Or you wake up and you're.

976
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, it's just so yes, Yes, I

977
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: have so many dreams like that, And sometimes I'm like,

978
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 3: that happened. What's What's I mean?

979
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: The magnitude of that loss, the magnitude of that loss,

980
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: that was a very you know, there was a scene

981
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: in Oh God, what's the uh, the famous Dustin Hoffman

982
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and Bancroft movie The Graduate. Yeah, they did stuff like

983
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: that in that film.

984
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a fan of a dream sequence

985
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: other than in this show, because the other dream that

986
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: was so good was their first kiss was in a dream.

987
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: Remember that this show knows how to do a dream

988
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: like because they it can be kind of annoying. But

989
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: this one, I'm like.

990
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, No, that's That's when I felt the loss

991
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: the most. Is in that dream when he was sitting

992
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: in the kitchen watching TV and he was dressed as

993
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Luke and she came down and he wasn't responding at all,

994
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah.

995
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 3: Say something, Yeah, I thought it was and and he says,

996
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: I'm watching something stupid and she's like, this isn't stupid.

997
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Here's the shirt. Wait, that's an amazing

998
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: shirt eating it's sexy. Oh my god, how do I

999
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: find that? Sure, if I could find all the.

1000
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,479
Speaker 1: Fashions, just an email Brenda, she'll tell you.

1001
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: Lor Lai has that amazing tan sweater she's wearing at

1002
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: the inn with the thing on the back. It's like,

1003
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: because she's doing the scene in the refrigerator, So whoever

1004
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 3: dressed her was so brilliant knowing we were going to

1005
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: be looking at her back. And then they put this

1006
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: sort of emblem on the back of the sweater. But anyway,

1007
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is a great episode.

1008
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, what how are we rating it?

1009
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: Ten pink ribbons, pink Danielle.

1010
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 4: Nine point nine to five chocolate covered months of Ale or.

1011
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: It's nine point nine five year highest you've ever given

1012
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 3: the show?

1013
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: No, I think Bracebridge Dinner Dinner was a ten out

1014
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: of ten foot oh wow, still holding up for me.

1015
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: I loved that episode.

1016
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to give this ten out of ten.

1017
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: Luke Broken Hearts painful and Tara we didn't We didn't

1018
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: forget Tara. She had to run off for an emergency.

1019
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: But it's not like an emergency emergency. I think it

1020
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: was like a podcast.

1021
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: Oh she just texted me. She increases with me. Ten

1022
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: out of ten. Luke Broken Hearts?

1023
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, does anybody have any favorite they love when

1024
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: we do favorite lines? Does anybody have any that we

1025
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: didn't do? I mean mine is not funny, but it's

1026
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: so like when she's just drama, it's over. I really

1027
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: screwed up. He could have been the Wane, Like I

1028
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: just was like, oh.

1029
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, mine was the drama too, but it was with

1030
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: adocies between Luke and Laura Leon and Luke being like

1031
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 4: it's too much.

1032
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine too. Yeah, Yeah, it's too much. It's too much,

1033
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: it's too overwhelming. It's too much for any one person

1034
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: to have to tolerate, you know.

1035
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 3: Still, like when she told Taylor, I'll deal with you later.

1036
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: He's got a huge responsibility. He's got to feed the

1037
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 1: people of stars Hollow. That's a big job. He's got

1038
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: to have his act together to do that.

1039
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well, I know we have to go, but

1040
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: you're right, and look at what happened to her, Like

1041
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: she screwed up her job because of this, and it's

1042
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: kind of like he's not gonna let this be his undoing.

1043
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: As they say, all right, everybody, that's gonna wrap us up.

1044
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Next episode, Season five, episode fifteen, Jews and Chinese Food.

1045
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: We will see you then. Thank you, ladies, Danielle Romo

1046
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: and Sugarman and the now dearly not dearly departed. That's

1047
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: wrong with me, all right. That's what you get when

1048
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: you leave where you click out early.

1049
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 7: You know, y.

1050
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: My Logan, I'm sorry, I know, y'all Logan haters Logan

1051
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: and Rory are I love them together?

1052
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: I do too. That's how to add that it's exciting

1053
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: to see them in scenes together. Their's spots are flying. Yeah, yeah,

1054
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: it's so great. Isn't he great? Yes, isn't great to watch?

1055
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: He's great to watch. She's just a little questionable, but

1056
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: he's great to watch it. I can't get my eyes

1057
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: off the screen.

1058
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: One good. Everything flows so smoothly.

1059
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: It's crops to Liza. While is that how you say?

1060
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it wrong. Paris. You know

1061
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: she's bound her way with Paris. Now she's nailing it,

1062
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: you know, like this is the Paris that really I love.

1063
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: She's a hint more vulnerable, she's a hint more sas,

1064
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: she's a hint more funny, caustic. She was nothing but

1065
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: a pleasure to watch in this episode for me too.

1066
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: So yep, ten out of ten pink ribbons.

1067
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. Thank you, everybody, best

1068
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: fans on the planet. Thanks for downloading all of us.

1069
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Keep the cards and letters and emails coming. We read everything.

1070
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: We take it all to heart.

1071
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we sure do. Cried a little when I read

1072
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: the Instagram comments.

1073
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: Right, sometimes they ruin our day, but they.

1074
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: Know how Laura was. Yeah, they make us better podcasters.

1075
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: But you know what, Laura in this episode, that was

1076
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: me reading our instagram.

1077
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm Luke and dosies being cornered by Laura

1078
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: and I'm saying reading the instagram, saying it's too much.

1079
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: Love you guys, best fans on the planet. See you

1080
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: next time.

1081
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 7: Stay safe, everybody, and don't forget.

1082
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast

1083
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.