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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast, your guide to

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Speaker 1: the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, creating proven versatile

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Speaker 1: hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. First Light

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Speaker 1: Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. This week on

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm joined by my longtime prior co host,

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Speaker 2: Dan Johnson to discuss our goals, hopes, and hit lists

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty five Seasonally all right, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: First Light and their Camera for Conservation initiative. And today

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Speaker 2: is a fun one. We're kicking off the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five hunting season as we do every year, which is

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Speaker 2: with a review of the upcoming hunting season. And I'm

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Speaker 2: joined by my buddy Dan Johnson. He was my co

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Speaker 2: host on this show for many years early on. Now

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Speaker 2: he's off doing his own wonderful work over with the

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Speaker 2: Nine Finger Chronicles and Sportsman Nation. But today Dan and

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Speaker 2: I are going to talk through our hunting plans for

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Speaker 2: this year. We're going to talk through our goals, dreams

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Speaker 2: and hopes for the hunting season. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: through any specific bucks we're after, any specific storylines that

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Speaker 2: we're particularly interested in, any changes in our hunting plans

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Speaker 2: or perspectives coming into the year, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So if you have historically followed along with our stories,

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Speaker 2: this is definitely one you want to tune into to

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Speaker 2: prepare for what's to come. But even if you haven't,

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Speaker 2: I would encourage you to listen to this episode not

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Speaker 2: just thinking about what me and Dan are going to do,

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Speaker 2: but really thinking about our discussion as a template for

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Speaker 2: some thinking that you can do about your very own

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Speaker 2: hunting season, you know, without getting too nerdy here, I

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Speaker 2: do think that leading into this new phase of the year,

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Speaker 2: it's worth having a little bit of reflection, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of thought put behind what you're about to do.

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Speaker 2: We spend so much time working, preparing, buying our gear,

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Speaker 2: spending our time and energy and our dollars on this

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Speaker 2: pursuit of ours. We owe it to ourselves to really

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Speaker 2: think about why we're doing what we're doing, how we're

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Speaker 2: doing what we're doing, and what exactly it is we're

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Speaker 2: trying to get out of this next few weeks and months.

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Speaker 2: Are our goals simply about acquiring food? Is it about

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Speaker 2: the experience. Is it about the people we're spending time with.

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Speaker 2: Is it about our impact on the landscape and managing

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Speaker 2: the deer herd. Is it about a specific buck we're hunting,

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Speaker 2: or just trying to get better as a deer hunter.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is, your experience of the season will greatly

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Speaker 2: depend on the expectations you bring into it, the plans

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Speaker 2: and goals you bring into it. That can wildly change

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Speaker 2: your experience. So think about that a little bit. Listen,

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Speaker 2: Dan and I listen. Especially for those of you who

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Speaker 2: have listened to us over the years, I'd encourage you

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Speaker 2: to think about and maybe compare and contrast the discussion

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Speaker 2: that Dan and I have today compared to what we

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Speaker 2: talked about five years ago or ten years ago. I

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Speaker 2: think you'll notice some changes for us with our values

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Speaker 2: and our goals and the way we approach hunting season.

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Speaker 2: Not that that's something that you have to follow along with,

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Speaker 2: not that you have to care about the same things

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Speaker 2: that you need to have the same goals. But I

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Speaker 2: do think you'll see that our thinking has evolved, as

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Speaker 2: I think all of us evolve in our own way,

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Speaker 2: as we get deeper and deeper into this as our

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Speaker 2: lives changed as our goals and values change all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So that's a long winded, roundabout way

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Speaker 2: of saying I hope you enjoy this one. Dan, as

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Speaker 2: you know, is a good friend. He's a wild character.

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Speaker 2: We have some laughs, we discuss some bizarre things, but

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Speaker 2: we also get into some important conversations that hopefully you

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Speaker 2: can find relevant to yourself as you kind of put

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Speaker 2: your own plans. So, without further ado, let's get the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five edition of our Goals, Hopes and Hit

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Speaker 2: listens all right here with me now on the line

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Speaker 2: for year don't Infinity twelve maybe your infinity, mister Daniel Johnson,

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Speaker 2: We're back for another one of our Goals, Hopes and

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Speaker 2: Hit Lists check ins, and I appreciate you being here, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, dude, I'm excited to be here. My Every

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Speaker 3: in life, or in a conversation, or in a friendship,

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Speaker 3: And so so like I was coach Dad, Coach Dad, family,

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Speaker 3: And so finally I got a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 2: had a lot to talk about, right. I want to

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Speaker 2: how we're thinking about this coming season, how all that

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Speaker 2: stuff is shaping up for twenty twenty five. You teased

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Speaker 2: that I have zero idea what this is about, right,

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Speaker 2: but coming from you, I'm intrigued, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what is it you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about? This is off topic but of interest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is something that Okay, everybody goes to

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Speaker 3: the bathroom. Every every human being goes to the bathroom. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what this bunckle your seat

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Speaker 3: Have, Dude, my gut feeling, my gut feeling tells me

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my gut feeling tells me that of there's thousands

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Speaker 3: and please, just please, I want everybody that does the

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Speaker 3: same thing that I do to flood Mark Kenyon's Instagram

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Speaker 3: uh messages or Facebook comments or comments whenever he posts

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Speaker 2: Has there has this been like an evolution? Have you

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, Mark, I, I struggled with it

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm proud of you for always trying to appreciate

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Speaker 2: I was in Iowa this weekend with my buddies Pete

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Speaker 2: a he's a faithful, great listener to all of our stuff. Dan,

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Speaker 2: So shout out to Pete. Uh So, other than timing

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Speaker 2: anything major new in the world of Dan or should

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Speaker 3: I mean there's always stuff new from like what I'm

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Speaker 2: So I'm like the opposite of you. And then you're

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Speaker 3: Well, first thing, and this is one hundred percent related

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so you've been you've been working the South

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Speaker 3: Yeah about that, right, seven, This will be my seventh

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Speaker 3: It's because it's something that I can't do every weekend

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Speaker 3: It's like I can drive an hour and go do

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Speaker 3: But the excitement of this is because it's completely different, right,

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Speaker 3: in my truck tonight, and then I'm gonna go hit

435
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: this piece of a walk in or public or something

436
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: like that, and really mark what it is about. It

437
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: is about the freedom of so much public land out

438
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: there that you can do whatever you want to do,

439
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: whenever you want to do it. In Iowa, that is

440
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: that is almost an impossibility. Yeah, right, it's that that

441
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: is taken away in Iowa because you have to have

442
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: private access or you you're or you're gonna be bumping

443
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: into somebody on pride right out there, dude, you want

444
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: to you bump into somebody on public out and in

445
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: some of these.

446
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: States, well guess what I'm doing.

447
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: I'm just going to take a couple of backwards steps,

448
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: go in a different direction, walk one mile and then

449
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: there's more public land to hunt. And so I don't know,

450
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 3: it's it's it's exciting because it's different.

451
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get that, totally get that. Well, I'm

452
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: excited for you. Now you kind of have like you've

453
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: got a system. You know, you say you've been there,

454
00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: you know what you're doing. So what about you? Well,

455
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: my first hunt of the year comes up even sooner.

456
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm leaving in six days, okay for my first hunt

457
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: of the year.

458
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: And where you got.

459
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: Western white tail hunt public land. I'm keeping location kind

460
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: of like quiet, trying not to spot burn, but yeah,

461
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: western white tail public land hunt. Trying to get the

462
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: monkey off my back. I have I've not killed a

463
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: western white tail and like seven years now while but

464
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: I've had like three or four trips where I've been

465
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: like close calls or something goes wrong, and so going

466
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: back again after I took a year or two off,

467
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: so excited about that, but doing it a little bit

468
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: different this year. I'm you know, this is kind of

469
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: a theme that we've talked about over the last year

470
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: or two, but just trying to like find ways to

471
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: inject kind of like you said, inject diversity or or

472
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: or just a different kind of fun. And so this

473
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: I decided with this trip, like when I've done the

474
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: Western white tail hunts in the past, sometimes it's been

475
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: like just white tails and just like trying to kill

476
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: a good buck. And then a few years it was like,

477
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: all right, let's do a couple of different things, like

478
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: let's we'll do a little bit of fishing but mostly hunting,

479
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: and then I feel guilty about like the times I

480
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: was fishing, and then I wouldn't really enjoy it because

481
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: of that. This year, we're going into it one hundred percent.

482
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's just have this incredible like cast and blast fun

483
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: trip split fifty to fifty. So the first half of

484
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: the day we're gonna go and fish the coolest places

485
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: we can find, like hike into these back country spots,

486
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: go on an adventure and these really cool public land

487
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: places where you can find great trout, great fish and

488
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: and see this stuff, like do the things I've never

489
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: had time to do. Was never willing to like put

490
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: the time towards because I felt like I have to

491
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: be you know, you got to do everything you possibly

492
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: can do to kill a big deer. I'm allowing myself,

493
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: We're allowing ourselves to have a great different kind of

494
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: experience for the first half, and the second half of

495
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: the day will be like do everything you can in

496
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: that half of the day to have a great deer

497
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: hunt in these spots. And so it's going to be

498
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: a white tail and trout cast and blast fifty to

499
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: fifty and just you know, having a really fun, cool experience,

500
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: not being super picky with you know, what deer I

501
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: would shoot. I'd like to kill it. You know, a

502
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: somewhat mature deer, like a three year old or older

503
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: would be my hope. But we're just gonna find out

504
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: what we can find and just explore, explore new spots,

505
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: explore new areas, and have some fun kind of like

506
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: you said, just uh, there's a lot of freedom to

507
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: roam out in these states, and I'm excited to do

508
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: that and do it like guilt free on both sides,

509
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: which I think will be a nice change.

510
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: And you're going with a group like a couple other dudes.

511
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: Just further just Josh, just coming mm hmm. So we

512
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: haven't done we haven't done trip together in several years.

513
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: So that'll be fun for sure. That's the that's the

514
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: first time in the year. Looking forward to that. Is

515
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: that a film hunt No got filmed, so also fun.

516
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I I'd prefer that. Yeah.

517
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: I think we'll be you know, I'll be capturing some stuff,

518
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, just solo, you know, cell phone, social media.

519
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a podcast. We'll share the full story,

520
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: but able to do something a little different. So very

521
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: much looking forward to that. I'm racing to get all

522
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: my final tea's crossed and dots or I's dotted, trying

523
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: to wrap up everything back home to be ready to

524
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: leave for that, because once I leave for that, then

525
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm gone for you know, ten days or something between

526
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 2: travel and the hunt and I come back and then

527
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: I've got an event in Wisconsin the following week. We're

528
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: opening a store in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Meetia there is on

529
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: August September nineteenth if you are in Wisconsin. Store opening

530
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee August September, sorry, September nineteenth, So I'm going

531
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: to be there doing a meet and great with folks

532
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: on the nineteenth. And then on the twentieth, September twentieth,

533
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: mediators doing this tailgate tour across the country and there

534
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: is there'll be a bunch of us from Meat there

535
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: at the Wisconsin Badgers Maryland football game, oh Okay on

536
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: September twentieth, So I'm going to be there for that

537
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: hanging out. So if people are going to that game,

538
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 2: they should look for us as well. And then after that,

539
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Boundary Waters for a

540
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: few days to do maybe some grouse hunting, but definitely

541
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: some fishing. So that'll be cool. There's been a never

542
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: ending array of craziness going on with that place. They're

543
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: trying to open it back up to the mine and

544
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: removing the protections that we recently got there that you know,

545
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: I'd been talking about for years when I did my

546
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: first trips. So going back there and continue to talk

547
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: about what's happening. So that's my September schedule. Yeah, is

548
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: those two trips.

549
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: That'll be fun.

550
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: I would say, Hey, maybe I'll come up to Madison

551
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: and uh and hang out and say hi. But I

552
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: don't know if I'd walk across the street to watch

553
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: the Badgers play football.

554
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: Man, Well, it's it's all about the pageantry and the

555
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: experience and the tailgate fun. I'm gonna wear my I'm

556
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: gona wear a Michigan State hat.

557
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll see.

558
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: I would make front of you if you were wearing

559
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: some Wisconsin shit.

560
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: No, I can't do it.

561
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna cave. Yeah, my son,

562
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: my son's teacher in kindergarten is a huge Michigan fan,

563
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: and obviously we're Michigan State fans, and like her whole

564
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: classroom is like covered in uh in like U of

565
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: M Maze and blue colors and stuff like Tom Brady posters,

566
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: like the entire door of the bathroom. So my kids,

567
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: I guess they said, like if you're I can't remember,

568
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: what if you do something right, if you answer quest right,

569
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: I can't. There's something that you do and the reward

570
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: is you get to wear a Michigan jersey to school,

571
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: Like why the hell when I want that happening. So

572
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out like our family resistance plan

573
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: to this indoctrination to his teacher is trying to have

574
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna start wearing Michigan Steak you every day there

575
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: or something. But I digress. Yeah, yes, September. Yeah, if

576
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: you want to come over and have a beer, I'll

577
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: head on over to Madison.

578
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: I quit drinking, Mark, Did you really?

579
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm done? Really really, I'm really serious. It's been over

580
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: one hundred days since I've had my last drop alcohol.

581
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Good for you?

582
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, weird. It's weird because I used to crush

583
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: bush Lights. Dude, Oh I know, I mean not in Berg.

584
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: And then I was like, one morning I woke up

585
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: and my knees didn't really work out.

586
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: Well.

587
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: I was like, holy shit, maybe I should quit drinking. Anyway,

588
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: I digress. Right, let's talk about have you tried athletic beers?

589
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: Yes? I have.

590
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: I still Yeah, athletics pretty good like it. It tastes

591
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: like a beer.

592
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: My my new kick is Corona Light. Nay, all right?

593
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Uh so that's our September.

594
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: September, October, October.

595
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: Are you kicking off some Iowa on October. Are you

596
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: waiting till November?

597
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: So, like I've said, uh, October, the first week of

598
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: October first eighth is the muleer hunt.

599
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, I was saying Secember, but I know you're October.

600
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: But so, one thing that I have noticed about this

601
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: newer farm that I've picked up.

602
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: This will be my.

603
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Fourth year there, fourth year, this will be my fourth

604
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: season hunting it. And one thing that I have noticed

605
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: is there is this one pinch point on the farm,

606
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: only one, and it's actually on a west wind, which

607
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: makes everything real easy for me. That they start to

608
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: daylight at about four three to four right in this

609
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: little pinch point they stand there. It's I wouldn't it's

610
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: like a staging area, but it's just a chill out

611
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: spot like the bucks will take.

612
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: A pond about that pond spot. I feel like I

613
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: remember you talk, am I right, that's that property right,

614
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: there's a pond like a big levee yep.

615
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: But it's further it's further down the creek then where

616
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: the pond's at. But so you know, I've I've had

617
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: a trail camera there for what three years now going

618
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: on four, and there are our deer in this pinch

619
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: point every single day all year round, somewhere about eight

620
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 3: to nine in the morning, and also about you know,

621
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: from four you know, somewhere around that three four five

622
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: timeframe too, as they're kind of moving through and they

623
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: just kind of hold up right on this little crick crossing.

624
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: What happened is there was there's a big bend in

625
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: the creek and it floods.

626
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: It's it's like a flash flood zone.

627
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 3: So when it range real hard, it comes up and

628
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: it deposits sand and then the grass grows up a

629
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: little bit in it, and then it deposits sand and

630
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: it grows, you know whatever. And now it's created this

631
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: little flat area with all this like knee high vegetation.

632
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: So I put a camera there, and I'm going to

633
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: hang a tree stand there and I'm going to hunt

634
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: probably one or two nights, hopefully like pair it up

635
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: with some kind of cold front.

636
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 4: Maybe that works, maybe it doesn't.

637
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not a huge believer in like mid October

638
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: cold fronts, but i am a believer in.

639
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: Trail camera data.

640
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: So I'm going to try to set a stand up

641
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: in there some way wait for a southwest west north

642
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: probably not northwest, but southwest west wind and see what

643
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: I can do that's exciting.

644
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Do you have a deer out there yet that you're

645
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: excited about?

646
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: Dude? Only one, only only one.

647
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: Picture. Now here's what happened. I put out some cameras

648
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: on my main farm and put a little fresh you know,

649
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: fresh in the mineral sights out and uh, a tree

650
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: branch came down in front of one in blue and

651
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: blue and blue. Thousands of pictures of that, right, batteries

652
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 3: are now dead.

653
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: One.

654
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: I put a block like this mineral block out in

655
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: this pasture. The only horse that's left came up and

656
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: in twenty four hours ate the whole mineral block and

657
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: stood in front of my camera for three days straight

658
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: and took all these pictures of horses. There were deer

659
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: involved in that time frame, but like nothing, nothing that's shocking, right,

660
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: But I just was it yesterday or the day before.

661
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: Let's see if I can pull this. This is just

662
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: a good picture. Here, I'll pull it up. See what

663
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: I got here? Yeah, I'll show you here.

664
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see it.

665
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

666
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, one fifties.

667
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see right here, he's

668
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: got a like a big frontel of an elk type

669
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: of deal coming up.

670
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: And I think he's a I think he's a ten.

671
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: I think that's on the.

672
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: Main or the new that's on the new farm, new farm,

673
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: new farm.

674
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: And that's it. That that deer. There's one other deer

675
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: who looks like he could before. This guy's definitely mature.

676
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't know other than that, I haven't seen anything.

677
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: But here's the other kicker, is that since I have

678
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: hung trail cameras up, was it last week today? One

679
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: week could go today, maybe even a little later. Anyway,

680
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: they have mowed it, they have raked it, they have

681
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: turned the hay or the grass, and then they put

682
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: it in big bales and then they came in and

683
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: got it out. So all summer long I procrastinated and

684
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: then they come in and start to work right after

685
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: I do all my stuff there.

686
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's a disruption in the deer movie.

687
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that they got those bails, the big bails out,

688
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: there should be a period of time where there's nothing

689
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: going on in September at all on this farm.

690
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: So I'm hoping there's a rebound.

691
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there will be now back back to

692
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: your main farm. Historically, you had a neighbor that like

693
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: hyper managed. They had like incredible, incredible food, incredibly managed property,

694
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: and there was always a bit of your You had

695
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: always thought like, ah, they're sucking a lot of deer

696
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: away from me for big parts of the year. Am

697
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: I right that those people are not there anymore?

698
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: No, they they're not. But there is the new owner

699
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: of that property. I'm I'm almost sure he's picking up

700
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: right where they left off. Okay, it's from a from

701
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: a management standpoint, maybe not as high of management, from

702
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: a trigger control standpoint, but from a food plot, from

703
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: a timber management. I mean, they pretty much handed this

704
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: guy after he bought it the.

705
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: Keys to the Royals Royce, you know what I mean.

706
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

707
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: And so however, there's multiple farms in between the one

708
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: that I hunt and their farm. But it's not necessarily

709
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: a it's not a long distance at all. It's just

710
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: there is some separation. But I will say this that

711
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: there there there's one good farm, or there's one good

712
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: deer in the.

713
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 4: River bottoms that showed up the last two years.

714
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: Other than that man, that the farm is just not

715
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: the same as as it has been in previous years,

716
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: so I don't know what it is. I know that

717
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: they're rotating cattle into some of these pastures now, which

718
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: could play a little bit of a role in it.

719
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: I know that there's a shotgun crew that comes through

720
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: and crushes it multiple times, like a first season and

721
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: second season, and that's always been a thing, but from

722
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: a deer size now. The other thing is it's corn

723
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: up top and beans on the bottom. So I don't

724
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't have any cell cameras down there because I

725
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: sell cams don't work in the bottoms, So I don't

726
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: know really what's going on down there.

727
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: So what do you think? What's the goal this year

728
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: for Iowa then, given limited limited inventory?

729
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, the goal is to go out, have as much

730
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: fun as possible and shoot a deer.

731
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: That makes me happy.

732
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Ye, that makes me go oh yes, And so Dan

733
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: Jackson trademark right, And if I get excited about it,

734
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: I'm shooting it.

735
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: Right.

736
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: If that's a that's a five year old one hundred

737
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: and twenty inch er, you'll get an arrow. If that's

738
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: a one hundred and sixty five inch three year old,

739
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: he's getting an arrow. Like ude, I just want to

740
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: go out and fill some tags, have some fun and

741
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: go after the top tier deer on any farm I have.

742
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's funny. You know, I've spend some time

743
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: in Iowa, as I have over the years, and got

744
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: to know a good number of people there. You meet

745
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: a certain segment of the Iowa deer hunting population who

746
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: starts to get like jaded by the situation there, Like

747
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: they become so used to seeing one forties and one

748
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: fifties and one sixties and even one seventies. They're not

749
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: even excited about like one hundred and sixty five inch

750
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: five year old you know, it's got to be booner

751
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: or they're like, mah whatever, or they're you know, I've

752
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: met people who like, man, if it's not one seventy

753
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: five or something, they just kind of no big deal.

754
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: They're not They're they're disappointed, they're bummed out. They say

755
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: Iowa sucks now because there's not as many two hundred

756
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: inches as they used to be, you know, fifteen years

757
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: ago or whatever. Yeah, have you, and you're a little

758
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: bit different than that. I feel like you, at a time,

759
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: like maybe ten years ago, you were more obsessed with

760
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: like a booner, and now you're kind of back to

761
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: like ow, you know whatever. I know, that's a little

762
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: bit with your own family life where you are as

763
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: a as a dad and everything. But talk about that

764
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: a little bit and have you seen that with your

765
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: friends or anyone else around you?

766
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 4: Mark?

767
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: As you know, for all species of all animals and

768
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: all calibers of deer, access is everything. Access is everything, right,

769
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: And so if you have access to a large acreage

770
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: and you're one of the only people hunting it, and

771
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: you are have the ability to pass four and five

772
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: year old deer to get to the point where a

773
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: deer can reach one seventy or the fact that you know,

774
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I have a two year old

775
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: three year old on one of these farms who's going

776
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: to be a genetic break right, he's probably a one

777
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: forty eight pointer this year, and he's probably walking around

778
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: one as probably a two year old.

779
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 4: Okay, small body, Like I put my thumb over his antlers,

780
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 4: and you're just like.

781
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: That's a dough type of deal, right, the people and

782
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: this might get me in trouble or this whole concept

783
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: of Iowa is what the whole concept of Pike County

784
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: used to be, like Pike County, Illinois was the spot

785
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: in the late nineties and early too.

786
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: Oh dude, Pike County. I got a farm in Pike County.

787
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: I got at least in Pike County.

788
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, I know guys who hunt Pike County, right,

789
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 3: And what has happened is there are the people who

790
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: are don't get excited about one fifties and sixties or

791
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: seventies anymore. Are the people who have the access. They

792
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: are the people who are able to control the environment basically, right,

793
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: whether that's three hundred acres and their neighbor has one

794
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: hundred acres, that's just one person hunting and another person hunting.

795
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: You will see that when you talk to the people

796
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: in Iowa who are don't have that availability and don't

797
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: have that access to those farms, their life really hasn't

798
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: changed much. Right, They're still like one forties. They're shooting

799
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: one forties all all year.

800
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: Right.

801
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: It's the people that you're talking to, and I'm just

802
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm just guessing here. They are in it in the

803
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: industry some way, shape or form. Maybe it's through that

804
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: they're they're actually in the industry, or maybe it's second hand.

805
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this that I know guys

806
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: who are passing two hundred inch three and four year olds.

807
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: I know guys who are passing and this is this

808
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: is you know, like once a deer gets to two hundred.

809
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: I know guys.

810
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: You've had them on your podcast, right, I know guys

811
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: who have passed one ninety inch four year olds. And

812
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: he told me I should have shot the doe he

813
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: was following. So he didn't that that he didn't go

814
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: on the neighbor's farm and then get shot, right, So

815
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: is that realistic to anybody other than the one percenters

816
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: who are actually doing this? No, they're not right. And

817
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here trying to bet like shit on that.

818
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: But I think that there is this huge gap in

819
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: between what is a quality deer, right, Like, what is

820
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: a quality deer? To me, a quality deer is something

821
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: completely different than the people who have access to hundreds

822
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: and hundreds and potentially thousands and thousands of acres managed farm,

823
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: putting money into these farms and things like that, right,

824
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: And it's just a do they live in a different

825
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: world than what the average joe lives in? And so

826
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: to say that now, I will say this, Iowa is

827
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: not the same in their defense, it's not the same.

828
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not the same to

829
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: them because I'm guessing their surrounding neighborhoods are shooting more

830
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: of the higher caliber bucks. You add trail cameras into

831
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: some things, you know, the whole back in the day

832
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: when less people were running cell cams and trail cameras.

833
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: You're taking the biggest buck that walks by your tree,

834
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 3: not the biggest buck that's on your trail camera. Those

835
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: are two completely different things. And so when you have

836
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: two let's say you own or you manage, or whatever

837
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: the case is, two hundred acres three hundred acres, and

838
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: you have a one sixty class or a one to

839
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: seventy class on camera, he's your top top tier deer.

840
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: You're not going to shoot those one forties because you

841
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: know you have time to try to make the rest happen. Right,

842
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: A guy who has five days of PTO, he's going

843
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: to take any opportunity to shoot any deer he can.

844
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: But if you're in the industry, you obviously, like both

845
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: of us, we have the ability to hunt way more

846
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: daisy year than the average guy. And so to the

847
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: average guy, I doubt that they they have seen much

848
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: of a change.

849
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: But to the bigger guys who are running way.

850
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: More trail cameras and sell cams and have a really

851
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: good dot on their property, they're seeing, they're seeing maybe

852
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: less deer over one seventy but I'll tell you this,

853
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: they're still passing the top ten percent of deer to

854
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: get them to the next stage. And a lot of

855
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: people just are still not doing that.

856
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 4: They've never done that.

857
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would guess there's a lot of truth to

858
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Yeah, but you know, it's interesting some

859
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: of the people that I've heard talk like this are

860
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: you know, they're not industry at all, just just you know,

861
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: regular hunters who just grew up in the Promised Land

862
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: and have never known anything else, you know, And I

863
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: think when you only have known that, you know, it's

864
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: like that their baseline is this, and so.

865
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, very interesting.

866
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: I will say that, yes, it has changed, like I mean,

867
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: because I think, you know, in the early days Wired

868
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: to Hunt, I would tell you about some of the

869
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: stuff I saw, or some of like the glory days

870
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: of the late nineties, first seven years of the two thousands,

871
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: like just the ridiculous amount of deer that I have seen.

872
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: Now you have all these changes that have happened. There

873
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: are way more bow hunters in the woods now than

874
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: there ever has been. Not necessarily more hunters, but there's

875
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: way more bow hunters now. The people who Here's what

876
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm saying is that there is the gap is widening.

877
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: You know, like you hear about the wage disparity gap

878
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: in this country, Yeah, there is a buck dispared disparity

879
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: gap too, because as this gap widens, there's more people

880
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: coming on the bottom end of this scale. There's more

881
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: people coming into the smaller acreages that are already being

882
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: hunted where the landowner gives everybody permission or more people permission,

883
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: while meanwhile, while the guys on the top are getting

884
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: more land and more land and more land for less

885
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: number of hunters. So the hunter per acre disparity is

886
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: real in my opinion.

887
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to hard to deny that. Yeah, Well,

888
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: with the better that said, for better or for worse,

889
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: I am hunting Iowa this year myself, yep. And I

890
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: don't care if it's like it is now or like

891
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: it was fifteen years ago. It's still pretty darn good

892
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned.

893
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: I've seen some of those trail campicks. Dude, you got

894
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: some decent deer.

895
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some decent deer got and some more

896
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: new pictures. I went up last week for two quick

897
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: days just kind of like whirlwind scouting, trail cam, hanging

898
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: stand prep, glassing fields at night, you know, the whole

899
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: nine years, and got a bunch of stuff done and

900
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: super fun evenings like the deer were out on one

901
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: of the properties that I've got permission on. We had

902
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: had some pictures of like three bucks that were probably

903
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: mature and a fourth it was like a maybe. And

904
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: the first beanfield we drove by, like well before dark.

905
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: We stopped on this little knoll and you can see

906
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: down to this little dark corner and bam, there's one

907
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: of them, and then they look more left, Oh there's

908
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: another one, and then a little like, oh, there's the

909
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: other one. All four of the bucks we've been getting

910
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: pictures of over the summer, we're all out in this

911
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: one field. So it was very cool to get to

912
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: see him and you know, in real life and get

913
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: some footage of them and stuff. And then we went

914
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: to another zone kind of on the other side of

915
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: the block with this on the other side of this property,

916
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: and there was another beanfield that had three different bucks

917
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: that all I would shoot any one of them. So

918
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: I saw like six, you know, at least four year

919
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: old bucks surrounding one of these pieces that I can hunt,

920
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, in like a half hour period. So that

921
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: was very exciting, all you know, just super nice maturity

922
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: or you know one you know, one thirty to one

923
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: sixty type bucks. Yeah, so exciting there. And then the

924
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 2: other farm I can hunt is I don't know, maybe

925
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: like five miles away, and we didn't see any driving around,

926
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: but put some cameras up and already we've gotten pictures

927
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: of oh another probably two bucks that I would shoot

928
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: down there. And then a neighbor, a buddy of ours

929
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: who's who's got cameras on his farm nearby, has another

930
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: like probably three different other really good bucks again like

931
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: all like four year old plus again like one forty

932
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: to one sixty type deer. So no shorge of deer.

933
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: I'd be excited to get a crack out.

934
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: And this is all on like permission that you've gathered

935
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: from people. Are you going into public at all or

936
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: just a private permission?

937
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: This year?

938
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: Yes, so this year private permission and my permissions have

939
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: gotten easier to get because my buddies who we used

940
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: to all be just getting knocking on doors getting permissioned,

941
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: and then two of my good friends now have slowly

942
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: over time. First it was permissions, and then we had

943
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: a couple of leases that we chipped in on, and

944
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: now both of them actually have bought a farm. So

945
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: I've got permission through friends now, which is very nice.

946
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: So gives you just you know, the added benefit of

947
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: not just like a place to hunt, but also one

948
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: of my buddies there's like an old house on the

949
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: property they've been slowly trying to fix up and improve

950
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: and so that it's a place we can all stay at.

951
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: So we've got like a deer camp, which is uh

952
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: which is super fun. And you know when I hunted

953
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: there last time, last time I hunted Iowa was three

954
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: years ago, four years ago, and I think I told

955
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: you guys about I think we talked about this this

956
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: spring a little bit, but you know, all my buddies

957
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: were down there. A bunch of folks from Michigan have

958
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: drawn that year two and the guys from Iowa are there,

959
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: and you know, they were you know, going out to

960
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: lunch in the middle of the day together, having a

961
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: fun late breakfast, so they'd go out to dinner and

962
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: night and they enjoying deer camp together and doing the thing.

963
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: And I was so obsessed with, like, I have to

964
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: kill a big giant buck. And I never left the woods.

965
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: I was out there form you know, two hours before

966
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: daylight till hour after daylight, you know, hiking in, hiking out,

967
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: and just you know, being a crazy person. And I

968
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: missed out on like all of the social side of it.

969
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

970
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: And and this year, I'm not going to do that.

971
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: This year, I'm going to enjoy the full experience. And

972
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: uh and you know, see the thing, do the you know,

973
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to experience Iowa. I

974
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: don't want to like try to conquer Iowa, you know

975
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: what I mean.

976
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have dates in mind of when you're coming.

977
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: Are you going to pop in for like an October

978
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: hunt or are you just going straight rut.

979
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: I think I've got the first week of October blocked

980
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: off from my big trip. But then I think I

981
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: might pop in for an October weekend hopefully, yeah, again,

982
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: just to kind of like have more time out there.

983
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: I think if I come in October, I would I

984
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: would be picky. I would, you know, not want to

985
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: end it in October unless it was just like a

986
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: unbelievable deer that you can't not shoot. But I would

987
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: love to just like experience and just hunt these areas

988
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: and have a chance to see deer that I usually

989
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: don't get to see, and see stuff that usually don't

990
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: get to see. So so hopefully can get out from

991
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: October for a little bit, get out there for a

992
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: fun week in November and see what happens. I've had,

993
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, three times of hunted Iowa. I killed a

994
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: buck my first year, I missed a buck the second trip,

995
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: and I missed a buck the third trip.

996
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: So you forgot to add the word giant into one

997
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 3: of those as well, a giant missed a giant buck.

998
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I missed a giant buck. So I've got a

999
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: little bit of a curse that I needed to shake off.

1000
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: Here this year. That's right, you'll get her done, You'll

1001
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 4: get her so.

1002
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: Uh So that's my Iowa trip. The goal there is

1003
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: to kill a mature buck and and but not rush it.

1004
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: So I want to just I'd love to be there

1005
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: a bunch and see a bunch. But I'm not gonna

1006
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: be crazy picky either. I just want the full Iowa thing,

1007
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: So something gets excited. No specifics that I did, Like

1008
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: I saw, like the biggest buck we had seen on

1009
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: trail camera on one of those farms was in that

1010
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: field that I mentioned to you where I saw all

1011
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: four of them together. And the next day we went

1012
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: back and checked out that field and he was out

1013
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: there again, And so I decided, you know, I'm gonna

1014
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: sneak in on the back side of the property and

1015
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: see if I can sneak up close, get behind him

1016
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: and maybe be able to get some up close I

1017
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: can get up close to you of him. And I

1018
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: was able to do that, and I snuck up and

1019
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: I got within one hundred yards of him and got

1020
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: to watch him for the last half hour of daylight

1021
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: and got like just gorgeous pictures and video, like really

1022
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: really cool to like see a buck that big, you know,

1023
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: pretty darn close just doing his thing. Yeah, so I'm

1024
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: definitely a little smitten by him after like that encounter

1025
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: and getting to watch him, But anyone of this deer

1026
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: would be cool to see again.

1027
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Man, you're gonna try to shoot a dough

1028
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: while you're here too.

1029
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: I should, Yeah, I should.

1030
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, that's one thing that's on my list.

1031
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if I told you this, but I

1032
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: ended up having so this summer. My kids or a

1033
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: neighbor boy or somebody went into my garage got some

1034
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: popsicles out of my freezer. Well, when they took the

1035
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: popsicles out of the freezer, the popsicle box blocked the

1036
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: door and it didn't shut the freezer all the way,

1037
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: and so I lost. So I walk out there two days,

1038
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: like a day and a half later, because I think

1039
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: it was on the weekend, so I didn't come up

1040
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: here to the office, and I'm seeing this pool of

1041
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: water on the ground. I'm like, what the hell did

1042
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: they spill something? I come outside, I look around the

1043
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: corner where my freezer's at. Doors tried to open probly

1044
00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: six inches and the whole freezer was Everything in there

1045
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: was soft but still cool, right, So I pulled all

1046
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: That night we had a huge fish fry for the

1047
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: entire neighborhood.

1048
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 4: I probably had to give away.

1049
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 3: It was either cook it now because I don't really

1050
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 3: know what the rules are per se of if something

1051
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: gets thought out, should you freeze it again?

1052
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: Whatever?

1053
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: So I got on my golf cart. We live in

1054
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: a golf cart community. Got in my golf cart and

1055
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: I drove around to everybody I know in the UH

1056
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: in my community who answered their door, and I handed

1057
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 3: them two or three packs of sausages or salami sticks

1058
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 3: or big chunks of ring balogne, and and just it

1059
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: was like meat Santa coming up to your door and

1060
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: hand like.

1061
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: I handed a whole bunch of stuff.

1062
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: Out, said hey, you got to cook this this week

1063
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: and h and so now I have an empty freezer

1064
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: and so that to me is a blank canvas and

1065
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shoot.

1066
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 4: I want to shoot a lot of beer this year.

1067
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: And de freezers make good hunters.

1068
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what fast they do.

1069
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: Are you hunting Kansas again this year?

1070
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: Nope? A lot of preference point? Okay. So I bought

1071
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: my preference point for Kansas.

1072
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: I bought my I bought my eleventh Wyoming elk point,

1073
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: my eleventh antelope point, and my ninth deer point for Wyoming.

1074
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: So here, pretty soon I'm going to start cashing some

1075
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: of that stuff in.

1076
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: That's exciting.

1077
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: Yep.

1078
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: Uh Are any of your kids getting a deer tag

1079
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: this year?

1080
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's one thing I was going to talk

1081
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: about real quick before we shut her down or whatever.

1082
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: But like, I have two kids who are now what

1083
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: I feel, old enough to go on a youth hunt

1084
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: out their their youth hunt. My daughter went last year.

1085
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: I think she had a little bit of panic or

1086
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: some sort of something happened. The deer were right in

1087
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: front of She said she couldn't see him. I didn't

1088
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: know what the deal was. Long story short, we ended

1089
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: up she didn't get thee any deer. They were literally

1090
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: twenty yards in front of them. That blew out. She

1091
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 3: didn't want to go back the next night, But now

1092
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: I guess she had some time to think and she's

1093
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: ready to go again.

1094
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: My youngest boy, he wants to go again too.

1095
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: So now I got to try to find a grandpa

1096
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 3: my stepdad take one of them, or find a spot

1097
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: close to here to get some kids out on a

1098
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: dough or something.

1099
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: I gotta find.

1100
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: I got to go into because all of my stuff

1101
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: is set up for bow hunting in November, all the

1102
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: crops are still in, so that makes it a little

1103
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: more difficult to kind of find a way like to

1104
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: just sit on the ground and do stuff in Blaze

1105
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: Orange in late September, early November or October. But the

1106
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: cool thing about what has happened in Iowa is they

1107
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: have changed the law that allows if you buy a

1108
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: youth tag, you can use it in youth season, but

1109
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: you can also use it in any season that is

1110
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: currently open. Meaning if my daughter and my son, if

1111
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 3: I felt comfortable then with bows and arrows, they could

1112
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: use that during the archer season. I can use that

1113
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: during shotgun season with a shotgun. That's going to be

1114
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: an option. That's great late season muzzle loader, so there

1115
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: are options if we don't get the job done in September.

1116
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: That's exciting. Yeah, that's going to be so fun.

1117
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. Your oldest boy,

1118
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 4: you ready to go.

1119
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: He says he is. He probably could be, yeah, but

1120
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: I want him to wait a little bit longer. Yeah.

1121
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: He's a great shot with a rifle. He killed his

1122
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: first turkey this spring. He's pretty die hard, so he's like, yeah,

1123
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm ready to shoot it dear dead for sure. But

1124
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: I think he needs to be a little bit more

1125
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: like emotionally mature or something. I'm looking for a little

1126
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: bit more maturity from him before I let him take

1127
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: that next step, so he'll definitely be going out there

1128
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: with me. My youngest has been expressing more and more interest.

1129
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: He's hunting with me the last two years, you know,

1130
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: handful of times every year, and he's getting more and

1131
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: more excited about it. So that's a big goal this

1132
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: year is just to get both the boys out there

1133
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: more often. And you know, that kind of segues beautifully

1134
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: into my Michigan plans because I want to make sure

1135
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: they get up to our deer camp a couple of

1136
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 2: times this year. For sure. I had an awesome hunt

1137
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: last year, and Josh killed a buck at our deer

1138
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: camp last year when both of my boys were there

1139
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 2: and his son was there, so like, that was really

1140
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: fun with the kids. Would love to repeat. So I

1141
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: was actually just up there yesterday doing work up there,

1142
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: prepping blinds and making sure everything's ready for the kids

1143
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: and ready for my dad and good for the family

1144
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: the family trips. So that's looking good. There was an

1145
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: absolutely enormous deer there last year.

1146
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: Dan.

1147
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if we ever talked about it, but.

1148
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: You mentioned you meant I think you might have even

1149
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: sent me a picture of him, Okay, and he was

1150
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: you're like, for northern Michigan.

1151
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: This is a great great, great great great here.

1152
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was. It was one seventy plus in

1153
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: northern Michigan. Yeah, our neighbor killed him. Okay, but we

1154
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: saw him. Me and my dad saw him. I was

1155
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: hunting with my dad in early November, and uh, he

1156
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: came in following a dough and installed at like seventy

1157
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: five yards something like that. But but just insane to

1158
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: see a buck like that in freaking northern Michigan, big

1159
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: woods swamp habitat and here is a giant you know,

1160
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: Iowa buck. Yeah, so cool. But then yeah, he got

1161
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: killed opening morning. But all that's to say, you know,

1162
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: anything's possible there, So that's that's kind of that was

1163
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: an exciting thing to see. Yeah, to kind of change

1164
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: the expectations just a little, of course, not counting that

1165
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: happening again. But it's fun and when I have the

1166
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: kids out with me more hunting down southern Michigan. I

1167
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: have picked up a couple of new permissions this year

1168
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: in Michigan, so continuing to diversify. Last year I had

1169
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: a piece I've got permission from the same landowner and

1170
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: a couple other spots. They're not like, they don't look amazing.

1171
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: There's spots where you're you're hunting, like a couple acres

1172
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: of cover on the edge of the field. But I'm gonna,

1173
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: you know, keep tabs in all these places just in

1174
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: case something pops up. I killed my buck in Michigan

1175
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: last year on one of those spots, like two three

1176
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: acres of cover, so it's possible. I picked up permission

1177
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: on a piece this year with a buddy of the

1178
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: buddy picked up permission invited me to hunt with him.

1179
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: It's like a campground. It's a private campground that also

1180
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: has a bunch of kind of open ground and and

1181
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: the owner of this campground wants someone hunting it, and

1182
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: so there's human activity a lot. There's a lot of

1183
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: activity right now around it. I think it's the fall

1184
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: progress is that activity would probably go down. So it's

1185
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting to see how de you use it.

1186
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: There's a deer out there, but mostly does right now.

1187
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: So hopefully during the run some bucks start moving through.

1188
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: So that's going to be an interesting new thing to

1189
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: learn and figure out. And then the old faithful properties.

1190
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: My longtime standbys that have hunted forever are in a

1191
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: weird spot right now.

1192
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: OK.

1193
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: Last year two I had two bucks last year who

1194
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: were like deer I'd known for multiple years. I was

1195
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: very excited. One was definitely five, one was four or

1196
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: five big, And they both disappeared at the beginning of

1197
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: the season, and one of them turns out got killed

1198
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: down the road. One of them, I still don't know

1199
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: what happened. Talked to one of the neighbors the other

1200
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: day and his grand killed his grandkids killed two ten pointers.

1201
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't know any more details other than that. And

1202
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: then he also told me that he killed three dos

1203
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: during late season that ended up being shed bucks.

1204
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: All of them were shed bucks.

1205
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was like, oh my gosh, that is brutal.

1206
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: So all that's to say that I think a lot

1207
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: of stuff got got mowed down last year. I don't

1208
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: have a single buck that I've seen yet this summer

1209
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: that I'm you know, excited about. Necessarily. There's two bucks

1210
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: that I've gotten one picture of each that are maybe

1211
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: three maybe four. I saw them last year when they

1212
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: were like two or three. This year they're three or four.

1213
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll have to get a better look

1214
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: at them and get a better sense if they're four

1215
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: and they're big and big bodied, you know, in the fall,

1216
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: maybe well let's see what the situation is like. But

1217
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: as of right now, I'm like, I don't know. It

1218
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: might just be the year that I shoot a bunch

1219
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: of doughs and take the kids out a lot and

1220
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: do that kind of thing. Yeah, so yeah, that's Michigan,

1221
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: and the one other hunt I've got this year after

1222
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: that would be It's kind of up in the air

1223
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: exactly where, but we are I'm gonna tease something to

1224
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: the folks listening who watch our hunts. We should be

1225
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: it's almost signed dot actually happening. I think we're going

1226
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: to be doing a new season of One Week in

1227
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: November this year, which is that show we did in

1228
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: the past, but it's gonna be in January, so it's

1229
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: gonna be one week in January. It's going to be

1230
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: down south, so we're gonna be hunting the southern rout

1231
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: somewhere maybe like Alabama or Mississippi or something. And on

1232
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: the past seasons, like the whole gist, the format of

1233
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: the show is, it was like five of us all

1234
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: hunting a different place around the country for the same

1235
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 2: seven days of November, right, and so it was like

1236
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: balancing from me and Iowa to Tony in Wisconsin to

1237
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: Clay in Arkansas or whatever. Yep, this season three, we're

1238
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: gonna make the two change. One change was we're all

1239
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: gonna be hunting. Well, sorry, it's gonna be in the

1240
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: South and we're all gonna hunt together for this one.

1241
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: So we're we're all gonna hunt. We're gonna have like

1242
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: a deer camp somewhere. We're all gonna hunt the same

1243
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: property and then going to be following us all in

1244
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: our different spots on that property, hunting in our own

1245
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: unique styles and ways, but in the same area. So,

1246
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: barring some kind of unforeseen change, the plan is to

1247
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: film that sometime in January, So that will be fun

1248
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: and something kind of different doing the whole Southern rout thing.

1249
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: But that's that's my year.

1250
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's always. It's always that you take some

1251
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: of this stuff for granted, I think a lot of

1252
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: us do, where You're just I don't think I understand

1253
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: even how important this hunting stuff is for me at

1254
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: times where like I love I love it so much,

1255
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: Like the hunting aspect of it, not the point last

1256
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: week where I was stomping through chest tied grass with

1257
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: chiggers and mosquitoes biting me all over the place, not

1258
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: that far, but like the sitting in the cool October

1259
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: and November air, you know, stepping outside, sipping a cup

1260
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: of coffee in the October weather checking like ooh, new

1261
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: buck on camera, All right, how am I going to

1262
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: get this son of a gun?

1263
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, like excessively checking the weather report.

1264
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: Exactly like sorry, hey, no, no, give me my phone back

1265
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: or let me see the iPad. I got to check

1266
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: out the weather forecast.

1267
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 4: Boom. I don't know. There's something about this time of

1268
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: year it is.

1269
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: Fall is my favorite time from a college football standpoint

1270
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: to the hunting standpoint to the weather and.

1271
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: Family aspects of all of it.

1272
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: It's like when I die and go someplace, it's going

1273
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 3: to be fall every day.

1274
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, man. It's a beautiful

1275
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: time of year, best time of year. And uh sounds

1276
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: like both of us have got some exciting adventures to

1277
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: look forward to.

1278
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 3: That's pull, man. I'm looking forward to hearing the ends

1279
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: of these stories.

1280
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: Yes, dittoh, let's uh, let's touch base again in season.

1281
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: Get some updates up there. I always appreciate catching up

1282
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: with you, seeing what you're up to. So best luck,

1283
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: my friend, best of back at you, all right, And

1284
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: that's a wrap for another one of our episodes here today.

1285
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining me. You might be hunting as

1286
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: we speak. Hunting seasons are kicking off across the country,

1287
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: so I want to wish you luck if that's the case.

1288
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: I want to encourage you to stay safe, to keep

1289
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: it fun, to share time with your friends and family,

1290
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: to do your part as a steward of our wild

1291
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: life and our wild places. And I just will tell

1292
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: you that I appreciate you. I appreciate you tuning in.

1293
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: I appreciate you being a part of this community. It's

1294
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a wild hunting season. I can't wait to

1295
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: share it with you. I can't wait to hear from you.

1296
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: And until next week, stay wired to hunt.