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Speaker 1: My Next Guest as an award winning music producer, songwriter, musician, arranger,

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Speaker 1: composer and founder of CE Bass Entertainment and see Blake Studios,

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Speaker 1: ce Bass Entertainment and see Blake Studios or his full

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Speaker 1: house production companies. He has also launched a stay at

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Speaker 1: home money movement on social media to share his knowledge

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Speaker 1: and provide mentorship from his industry experience with others who

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Speaker 1: want to develop careers in the music business. This kind

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Speaker 1: of sounds like money making conversations, which is good because

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's his idea, my idea, And

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about how he's approaching his end

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Speaker 1: of the business and I'm approaching my end of the business.

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Speaker 1: And guess what, We're gonna create a lot of winners

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Please welcome to money making conversation. I

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Speaker 1: missed him at the ESPN Live broadcast. They told me

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Speaker 1: he was there and I couldn't get over to see him.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome, Dana says to Buddy, Hey man, I heard

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Speaker 1: I missed you. Man, he was at the end. Let

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Speaker 1: me back up with last a couple of weeks September

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Speaker 1: twenty it uh steven A. Smith brought es paying first

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Speaker 1: take to Williamington, Delaware to promote HBCUs College Fair, where

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Speaker 1: we was encouraging seniors in high school to come to

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Speaker 1: this HBCU featured event. We had like twenty three colleges

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Speaker 1: who are confirmed from HBCU. Thirteen of them were registering

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Speaker 1: students on the spot. In words, if you brought your S,

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Speaker 1: a T score, a CT score, your transcript, you can register.

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Speaker 1: So far, they've generated over four million dollars in scholarships

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Speaker 1: that have been distributed from that college fair. And then

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Speaker 1: they tell me that you was at the live broadcast. Correct,

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Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, I actually live in North Newark, Delaware,

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Speaker 1: which is no more than six or seven minutes away.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big I'm a big sports fan,

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Speaker 1: so I had to definitely come to check out Stephen A. Smith. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wish I know you know that that's my man,

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Speaker 1: and so in the future we'll connect that to be

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Speaker 1: our connection. Because I appreciate you coming there. What was

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Speaker 1: your take at the lib us what what would your

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Speaker 1: take away from the experience. I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: any of everybody who attended really got an HBCU experience

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Speaker 1: the HBCU. What it was definitely definitely, uh, informative and

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Speaker 1: exciting all at the same time. I actually have a

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Speaker 1: daughter that Sugerior in UM the University of Delaware UM,

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Speaker 1: so I I understand what I took away was from

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Speaker 1: Steven this with you know, going to Western Salem. You

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Speaker 1: know you basically you know what we're always teach in

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Speaker 1: our black community. You two can do this. You two

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Speaker 1: can make this happen. And it was just really great

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Speaker 1: to see Max and Molly actually show love to him

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Speaker 1: and you know, praise colleges and on all the surrounding

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Speaker 1: colleges to let them know that's a black community. You know,

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Speaker 1: if we put in the work, it definitely can happen.

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Speaker 1: Is what you put into it. And that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: the story of your life. Because right now I want

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Speaker 1: to say, you're on fire. Let me read some things here,

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Speaker 1: like I've written this article. Gospel hit making producer songwriter

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Speaker 1: Dana Surrey recently received three GM a Dove Award nomination

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Speaker 1: for his work with Jason's Nelson and The Answer and

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Speaker 1: Miranda Curtis and I'm All In. That's just a list

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Speaker 1: of the Grammy nominations that you've been put up for

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Speaker 1: when it when it comes surge and that you like that, Dana,

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Speaker 1: how the how you know because you've been working at

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Speaker 1: It's not overnight. And we're gonna talk about the journey

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Speaker 1: a little bit. That's why I like to do in

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Speaker 1: this show, just talk about the journey a little bit

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Speaker 1: so people can know that your story can be their story.

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Speaker 1: But it's a lot of work, a lot of patients,

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Speaker 1: a lot of nose tied to a lot of yes.

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Speaker 1: Is that enables to be interviewing you about the success

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Speaker 1: that you're having right now? Correct? Yes, sir well, I

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Speaker 1: think the most important part is, like you say, it's

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Speaker 1: it's the build up. I start up as a musician

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Speaker 1: church to you know, hoping you can get a gig,

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Speaker 1: Drew Hill to Montella Jordan's too. You know to Kelly Price.

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Speaker 1: You know, so I worked my way from the bottom,

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Speaker 1: my hip it's fine, Sean, you know over brother, I

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Speaker 1: was like, how did this happen? And you know, so

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Speaker 1: I said, man, I've got to find a better way

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Speaker 1: you know what, I need to stay home and figure

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Speaker 1: out a way of building writing songs, producing songs right

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Speaker 1: end up on America's Top Model first season. Thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: of that that song. Rashwan paid me forty four grand

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Speaker 1: uh and I was only fifty of the work. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just split on my earnings with Boys the Men.

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Speaker 1: I know, all the labels have relationships with them, and

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Speaker 1: if the artists is ready and capable of making that happen.

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Speaker 1: Because I still took some work on the artists. Player

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Speaker 1: just tell you because your story is so similar my

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Speaker 1: other very successful stand up comment writing I was. I

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Speaker 1: versus you know, a check whenever or you go out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: two more extra months of bills that I was because

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Speaker 1: It has been it has been sectioned off into food

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Speaker 1: and it really starts affecting you. So you have to

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Speaker 1: figure out a new plan. That's why his new plan was, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm produced, I'm right, I'm controlled. I'm tired of people

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Speaker 1: So when we come back on the next breaking and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the the program that's very similar

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Speaker 1: to my Money Making Conversation. I actually turned it into

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Speaker 1: my Facebook page. That's what I'm saying, Man, your values

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Speaker 1: My man, he's my double gangerl Hi, This is ra

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. You and you're listening to money Making Conversation

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Is gonna man. Dana sor Ry. He

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Speaker 1: created this stay home money movement aside from his Sea

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Speaker 1: bass entertainment company and his Sea Blake Studios. He believes,

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Speaker 1: like me, if you use your guard getting talent, the

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Speaker 1: money will come. That is so true, but us because

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Speaker 1: it's hard work and consistency and also having the people

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Speaker 1: as to you know, man put logos on my door man.

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Speaker 1: So when I know when I come downstairs, it's business,

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Speaker 1: I see the sea beds logo. It's time of work.

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Speaker 1: I've got no laundry clothes laying around. I an't got

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Speaker 1: You know it's fresh paint, is you know, commercial doors

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Speaker 1: really interesting when I listened to his story because you know,

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Speaker 1: my wife's uptomatress. His wife's a pharmacists. Okay, he's a

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Speaker 1: daughter in college. I have adult in college. Okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: uh and so so. The interesting thing about money making

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Speaker 1: conversation In fourteen, when I was still managing Steve Harvey,

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Speaker 1: me some advice to Rashan, how to handle my money, Rashan,

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Speaker 1: how you breaking to the industry. So I started money

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Speaker 1: making conversation on my Facebook page at Rashwan mcdonnald and

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Speaker 1: so and so. I would give an hour on a

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Speaker 1: when you respond to somebody, they respond back at you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so then you have to respond back to them. They

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