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Speaker 5: Yeah, Rich, So, Bandana dot Com is what we call

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Speaker 5: So that's the thing when we built Bendana dot com,

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Speaker 5: that all of these pieces come together in a seamless way.

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Speaker 6: On Bandana.

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Speaker 5: We also try to go the extra mile, by the way,

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Speaker 5: where our entire service is free for the worker, it

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Speaker 5: will always be free, and that's something that we really

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Speaker 5: pride ourselves on. We have tools like resume resume tools

437
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Speaker 5: that can make resume the latest and greatest, help you

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Speaker 5: clean up grammar, use AI and make it so that

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Speaker 5: that resume looks great for every job that you apply to.

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Speaker 6: We have job trackers.

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Speaker 5: That help you figure out exactly what you've applied to,

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Speaker 5: what you've searched on. And even this last tax cycle,

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Speaker 5: we offered free taxes federally and state to all Bandana

444
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Speaker 5: users for free when they filed through US.

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Speaker 1: So what's been the response. What's you know, are people

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Speaker 1: getting jobs off of this website or what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we've helped probably close to fifty thousand people

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Speaker 5: find the job now on Bandana. We just launched in

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Speaker 5: New York fourteen months ago and in California earlier this year, and.

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Speaker 6: Throughout that time period, we now have.

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Speaker 5: Close to half a million workers coming onto Bandana every

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Speaker 5: month and it's been an incredible response. We really pride

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Speaker 5: ourselves in being a grassroots movement, so we host a

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Speaker 5: lot of local job fares, and in those job fairs,

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Speaker 5: will have free headshots, free resume reviews, free job clinics.

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Speaker 5: And what we see is this response is every time

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Speaker 5: we host something, even if the even if we're hosting

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Speaker 5: up to a thousand people, that will get filled up

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Speaker 5: in less than twenty four hours because of how many

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Speaker 5: people come up to us and they're like, Hey, not

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Speaker 5: only did you help me find a job, but you

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Speaker 5: help me prepare for that job.

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Speaker 6: You help me think through how to find jobs in

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Speaker 6: the future.

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Speaker 5: And our whole goal is to make sure that American

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Speaker 5: workers have all of the resources they need in order

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Speaker 5: to find that better job for them and their families.

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Speaker 1: All right, we've got about a minute left. Where did

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Speaker 1: you get the name? And where is this available? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So Bandana comes from a few things. I think one,

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Speaker 5: we tried to think of something that ties to a

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Speaker 5: little bit of urban culture. But also thinking back to

473
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Speaker 5: Rosie the Riveter in the nineteen forties where people were

474
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Speaker 5: tying bandanas and farm and rural culture and just like

475
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Speaker 5: understanding what is the betrock of America and Bendana really

476
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Speaker 5: resonated with us and the having Bendana dot Com has

477
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Speaker 5: been really critical for us. And then I think and

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Speaker 5: where we're available is we're available in New York, New Jersey, California, Chicago, Virginia, Maryland, Washington, DC,

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Speaker 5: and by the end of the year will be out nationwide.

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Speaker 1: And it just takes a little bit longer to build

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Speaker 1: this because you're not scraping these job searches. You're actually

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Speaker 1: kind of connecting with the job posts themselves from these companies,

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Speaker 1: right exactly.

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Speaker 5: And then we're also going the extra mile to tie

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Speaker 5: an address to it. And that's how we get that

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Speaker 5: map based approach that looks exactly like Zillo or Airbnb.

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Speaker 6: No one usually.

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Speaker 5: Has the address of the exact location, but like for example,

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Speaker 5: in New York, right, we don't want someone to stay

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Speaker 5: in New York, New York on a job and then

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Speaker 5: it actually ends up being in like Staten Island when

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Speaker 5: they expected it to be in the Bronx. And that's

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Speaker 5: why that exact address and going that extra mile to

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Speaker 5: enrich that data takes a little bit longer for us

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Speaker 5: to build up and build that foundation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially with long commutes, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: can find something in your neighborhood that's like, that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: people don't realize the peace of mind and the less

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Speaker 1: stress that comes with working close to home. Right, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to sit in a car, commute, subway whatever

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Speaker 1: for an hour. Tim Mcalino, we are going to leave

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Speaker 1: it there, co founder and CEO of Bandana dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for an entry level job, retail job,

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Speaker 1: food service, I mean, all these industries they've got listed here,

505
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: check it out. Is a really well done website, Bandana

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Speaker 1: dot com. Tim, thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Rich.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll put on the website a link Rich

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Speaker 1: on tech dot tv. And if you want to get

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Speaker 1: on the phone, give me a call. You have a

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Speaker 1: tech question, you can dial it up eight eight eight Rich,

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Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one coming up. We'll take more

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Speaker 1: of your calls and I'll tell you the feature the

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Speaker 1: ray band smart glass has just got to make them

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Speaker 1: smarter than ever. Rose is in Temecula, California. Rose you

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Speaker 1: around with.

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Speaker 7: Rich Hirich And I have a question. How do you

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Speaker 7: know if your phone has been compromised? And lately I've

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Speaker 7: been giving those the capture uh warning things even if

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Speaker 7: you know. I was on a phone call yesterday and

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Speaker 7: so when I finished, I went to Google. I was

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Speaker 7: gonna search for something, and even even before I searched

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Speaker 7: for that, it's the first thing I saw was the

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Speaker 7: cap chare things. And it says that the reason, uh,

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Speaker 7: let me see, it's this, Uh. Our systems have to

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Speaker 7: take the unusual traffic from your computer network. Uh. This

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Speaker 7: fake checks to see if it's really you sending the

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Speaker 7: request and not a robot. And you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 7: even searching for anything and brought this message. And I've

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Speaker 7: been giving it off and on. And also when I

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Speaker 7: call them friends or family in Mexico, they always tell

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Speaker 7: me that my phone sounds weird, that they hear man

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Speaker 7: voices on the background every time. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. Okay, So there's a couple of things

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Speaker 1: going on. Number one, do you have an iPhone or

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Speaker 1: Android iPhone? Okay, so the chances of your iPhone being

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Speaker 1: hacked in any way, shape or form is about zero

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Speaker 1: to none. So unless you are a are you a

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Speaker 1: head of state?

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Speaker 7: Am I wife like?

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Speaker 1: Ahead of state?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you like a government official? Like a no journalist, no,

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Speaker 1: no ambassador for a different country.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, those are the people that are typically targeted in

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00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: attacks on you know, if they want spyware on your iPhone,

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Speaker 1: those are the people that they're typically targeting because it's very,

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Speaker 1: very tough to install that on an iPhone. So I

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Speaker 1: think you can rest easy knowing that your phone is

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Speaker 1: not hacked. Now, to answer your first question, are you

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Speaker 1: talking about a capsha Is that what you're seeing when

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Speaker 1: you try to go to a website?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you have, are you paying for iCloud

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Speaker 1: by any chance?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So iPhone has this thing called iCloud Private Relay,

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Speaker 1: and that is something that protects your Internet traffic coming

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Speaker 1: from your iPhone. Now, sometimes when that because they're doing

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Speaker 1: that on so many phones for some reason, websites think

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Speaker 1: that they're getting spammed and so they they say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we just want to make sure you're a human just

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Speaker 1: checking and so that would explain that first thing that

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Speaker 1: you got, that first message. Okay, And you can turn

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Speaker 1: that off in your settings if you'd like. You don't

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Speaker 1: need to have that on, but it kind of just

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Speaker 1: encrypts your traffic, makes it a little bit more private,

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Speaker 1: so you're actually getting some privacy benefits there. So if

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Speaker 1: you don't want that, just search for iCloud private relay,

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Speaker 1: and you can turn that off if you don't like it.

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Speaker 1: So that's number one. Number two, the voice in the background,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you know. It used to be

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Speaker 1: when when cell phone signals were analog, there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of static, a lot of distortion, a lot of

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Speaker 1: overlap with the signals. But now that they're digital, we

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Speaker 1: rarely get that.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's it's much rarer.

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Speaker 1: So the only thing I can say with that is

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Speaker 1: it could be you just have a bad connection sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and that could be you said you were calling Mexico.

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Speaker 1: It could be on their end like whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: the final line that they're calling on could have issues.

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Speaker 1: But I do I do hear issues every once in

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Speaker 1: a while. I'll call someone and I'll hear like an

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Speaker 1: echo or something, and it's as simple as hanging up

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Speaker 1: the phone, redialing and you get a clearer connection. So

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Speaker 1: that probably explains the second part of it. Rose. So

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Speaker 1: I think you're fine. I think your your your phone

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Speaker 1: is not hacked. If you wanted to search to see

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Speaker 1: if there was some spyware on your phone, which again

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to do this. Uh, there

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Speaker 1: are a couple of a couple of big spyware programs

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Speaker 1: out there that these you know, foreign entities will typically

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Speaker 1: use to target folks, but not regular people most of

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Speaker 1: the time. But there is a a spyware analyzer built

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Speaker 1: into an app called I Amazing, and it's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: gonna cost money to download that and to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you really need it, but that's number one.

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Speaker 1: The other one is a startup that they came out

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Speaker 1: with an app called am i Secure. This launched last

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Speaker 1: year and it's basically a way to scan your iPhone

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Speaker 1: to see if there are any indicators of these apps,

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Speaker 1: these spyware apps on your phone. That's again that's called

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Speaker 1: am I Secure. You know, again, not too many downloads

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Speaker 1: on that one, because you know, people don't typically need

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Speaker 1: this stuff on the iPhone.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: On Android, yes, it's a little bit probably a little

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Speaker 1: bit easier to install some malicious software on there, just

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Speaker 1: just because of the open nature of Android. But the

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Speaker 1: manufacturers themselves have locked down the phone so much that

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Speaker 1: for this to happen, you would really need to be

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Speaker 1: a power user to unlock some of those default settings

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Speaker 1: on your phone, and the main one is to allow

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Speaker 1: either Chrome or unknown software packages to be installed on

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Speaker 1: your device. Now I do that regularly, like an APK

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Speaker 1: they're called. That's like basically software that you can install

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Speaker 1: on your phone outside of the Google Play Store. On

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Speaker 1: iPhone you can't. Basically, it's not easy to install software

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Speaker 1: outside of the App store here in the US at least,

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Speaker 1: so I think you're probably safe, I think on Android.

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Speaker 1: If you're on Android, i'd run something like a malware

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Speaker 1: byte just to check and see if you have But

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Speaker 1: in general, my guidance for this is go through your

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Speaker 1: phone regularly and you know, do some maintenance on it, right,

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Speaker 1: clear your browser cash, clear your history out, and also

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Speaker 1: go through your list of apps and uninstall any apps

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Speaker 1: that you don't need anymore, you don't recognize, and then

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Speaker 1: go through and do software updates on both your apps

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Speaker 1: and on your phone itself. So make sure that your

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Speaker 1: phone is updated, and then restart your phone every once

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Speaker 1: in a while. And the other thing on Android is

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Speaker 1: you can do an update on Google Play Services, which

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Speaker 1: will kind of update your phone to the latest security

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Speaker 1: and features that Android offers outside of the operating system updates,

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Speaker 1: and you can find that typically if you go on

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Speaker 1: the Samsung phone, it's usually listed in your settings under

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Speaker 1: secure security. You can check for that. All right, good question, Rose.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're looking out for your phone making sure

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Speaker 1: that you are not hacked. It is a valid question.

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Speaker 1: Is a valid concern, especially on computers these days, we're

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of issues there. Phones definitely a little

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Speaker 1: bit trickier for that stuff to be installed. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for the call today. Eight eight rich one oh one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Hendrix of Tech Policy Press to share insights on the

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Speaker 1: Google and Meta antitrust trials and what it means for you.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about these ray Band Meta smart glasses.

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Speaker 1: They just got smarter. I got to say, this is

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Speaker 1: the product of the year. I think that if you

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Speaker 1: have not tried these things, you will be amazed at

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Speaker 1: just how good they are. And we've talked about them

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Speaker 1: at length on this show. They're basically smart sunglasses cooperation

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Speaker 1: between Meta and ray Band. They have cameras, they have

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Speaker 1: microphones built in speakers, you can listen to music, you

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Speaker 1: can ask AI, hey, what am I looking at. But

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Speaker 1: the new feature is well, a couple of new features.

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Speaker 1: They just rolled out a couple of new software updates.

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Speaker 1: Number one, live translation is available everywhere now. So I

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Speaker 1: tried this out yesterday. I downloaded a Spanish language pack.

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Speaker 1: I fired up a YouTube video of someone speaking in Spanish,

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Speaker 1: and while they're speaking in Spanish, in my ears, I

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Speaker 1: can hear them speaking in English. It is incredible. It

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Speaker 1: is the future. It works. Supported languages include English, French, Spanish,

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Speaker 1: and Italian. And so that's number one. I would like

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Speaker 1: to see how this would work on the streets, right, like,

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Speaker 1: if you're in Italy someone speaking to you in Italian, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious how good the mics are at picking

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Speaker 1: up what they're trying to say to you. But I

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Speaker 1: guess it's kind of like your ears. You listen to them,

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Speaker 1: you tuoe not everything else. So I got to try that.

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Speaker 1: But it's there and it's pretty pretty incredible. That's one

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Speaker 1: of the big questions I get on this show is like,

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Speaker 1: how do I live translate stuff in real time? And

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Speaker 1: that's it. Beyond that, they gave support now for you

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Speaker 1: can send messages and make calls through Instagram, which is

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Speaker 1: part of you know, they already have WhatsApp and Messenger.

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Speaker 1: Those are all Facebook products, so there you go. And

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Speaker 1: then they also have support for Spotify Music, Apple Music,

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Speaker 1: and Amazon Music, so that's really cool. And then the

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Speaker 1: other thing that they're doing that's coming soon is a

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Speaker 1: hands free AI that sees what you see and can

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Speaker 1: respond in real time. That's kind of like the new

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Speaker 1: thing that everyone's doing, whether it's Gemini or chat GYBT.

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Speaker 1: It's this idea of having the AI look through your

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Speaker 1: camera and give commentary on what it is looking at.

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Speaker 1: It is quite impressive. Gemini just added that feature on

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Speaker 1: the Samsung phones and the Pixel phones. It's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: Chat Gybt has it. I think it's just for Plus

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Speaker 1: subscribers like me, but it's really interesting to just have

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Speaker 1: AI looking at what you're looking at and just commenting.

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Speaker 1: Really going to be the wave of the future there,

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Speaker 1: especially with these smart glasses. Google is working on a

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Speaker 1: a big part of the future. Agnes writes in from

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Speaker 1: Huntington Beach, listening on KFI. I have a Pixel eight phone.

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Speaker 1: I'm devastated. I was texting with my son and I

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Speaker 1: tried to delete a message that wasn't turning out right.

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Speaker 1: I use the delete feature, thinking it would erase just

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Speaker 1: that one text, but its deleted urn entire conversation. I've

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Speaker 1: researched online and everything says there's no way to get

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Speaker 1: deleted text back. Is there anything you can suggest to

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Speaker 1: help this? Sad Mama, Agnes, I am sorry that happened

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Speaker 1: to you. For some reason, Google Messages does not have

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Speaker 1: a recycle bin, so I don't know why they don't

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Speaker 1: have an area that puts all your deleted messages and

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Speaker 1: keeps them for thirty days. Because sometimes you delete stuff

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Speaker 1: and you say, oh no, I need that back. iPhone,

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Speaker 1: for what it's worth, does have that. So if you

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Speaker 1: can tap edit and it says show recently deleted Google messages.

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Speaker 1: You need to get that feature in the meantime, Agnes,

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Speaker 1: most of your research is correct. There's really not an

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Speaker 1: easy way to get this back. There is one place

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Speaker 1: I'd like you to look, and that is your Google

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Speaker 1: device backups. So you said this a pixel, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: that it's getting backed up to Google. So go on

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Speaker 1: to one dot Google dot com and then tap storage

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Speaker 1: on the left hand side and scroll down and it

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Speaker 1: should say your device backups and I can see mine.

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Speaker 1: I have got my Galaxy S twenty five Ultra Pixel

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Speaker 1: ninefold Pixel nine pro. Yeah, I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: devices that I test. And just tap that device your

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Speaker 1: pixel eight and then see details. And if it says

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Speaker 1: SMS and MMS messages and there's a number next to it,

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Speaker 1: your backup is somewhere in the cloud. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If it backed up right after you deleted, then those

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Speaker 1: messages might still be gone, but at least you can

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Speaker 1: go in and check. So if it's there, what I

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Speaker 1: want you to do is go into Google Takeout and

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Speaker 1: you can download them takeout dot Google dot com. Scroll

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Speaker 1: down to where it says messages, messages and conversation history

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Speaker 1: from your backup, and you select just that and you

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Speaker 1: hit download and it will give you all of those messages.

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Speaker 1: Now they're not going to be in a very easy format,

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Speaker 1: but at least you will have them. And this is

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Speaker 1: a lesson for the future. Number one, do things slow.

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Speaker 1: I know people we always like to do things fast,

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Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you don't know what the outcome

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Speaker 1: is going to be. The other thing you do. There

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Speaker 1: is an app called SMS Backup and Restore, So if

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Speaker 1: you want an ongoing backup of your text messages on Android,

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Speaker 1: you can install that app and do a backup every

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Speaker 1: so often. You can do it every hour, every day,

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Speaker 1: every month, every week, whatever you want, but it will

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Speaker 1: it will back up all of your messages, put them

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Speaker 1: in Google Drive, drop box, wherever you want to store them,

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Speaker 1: even on your phone if you want. But at least

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Speaker 1: if something like this happens again, you would be able

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Speaker 1: to go back to that last backup and get those messages.

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Speaker 1: So those are the solutions, but agnes I will tell

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Speaker 1: you sadly, it's not easy to get those things back,

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Speaker 1: and it's really unfortunate, unfortunate that Google Messages does not

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Speaker 1: have a recently deleted area because they have sort of

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Speaker 1: forced everyone on Android to use Google Messages. Yes, you're

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Speaker 1: still open to using any messaging app on Android, but

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Speaker 1: Samsung Messages is going away and they're directing people. Verizon

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Speaker 1: Messages went away and they're all directing people towards Google Messages.

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Speaker 1: So that's sort of the main messaging app on Android,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that it does not have a recently

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Speaker 1: deleted is really bad. So we need to get that Google.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the email. Let's go to Brian in north Ridge. Brian,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sometimes when I deal with tech support online and whatnot,

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Speaker 4: they they asked me to clear my cookies like I

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Speaker 4: did recently on SoCal Gas and my cash files to

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Speaker 4: fix a problem. But the problem here is that once

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Speaker 4: that happens, I lose all of the Every time I

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Speaker 4: go to another website, I have to I have to

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Speaker 4: put everything back in again. It's a major disruption. Is

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Speaker 4: there a way of just ferreting out the ones that

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Speaker 4: they're asking me because they just say, oh, just clear

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Speaker 4: all your cookies, clear your cash fials. Well, you know

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Speaker 4: that just totally disrupts everything. Is there a solution there?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It obliterates your entire system. It clears every log in

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Speaker 1: that you've saved and anything that's remembered on a website.

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Speaker 1: So I totally get that. And it's easy for them

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Speaker 1: to say because it's a it's a one size fits all.

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Speaker 1: It kind of erases everything starts fresh. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you had some sort of login problem on

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Speaker 1: their website. Yes, sir, Yeah, okay, so there is a

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Speaker 1: way to do this. Are using Google Chrome or something else.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of a browser freak. I mostly used my

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Speaker 4: very customizable Firefox. I don't like Chrome. I don't like

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Speaker 4: being pushed into it by financial groups and major companies,

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Speaker 4: you know, airlines and the like. I do love Opera,

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Speaker 4: and then I also have Brave that I use for

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Speaker 4: some use.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the good news is I can give you

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Speaker 1: the There is an option to do this, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's on pretty much every browser. The way of

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Speaker 1: accessing it might be a little bit different. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: Chrome obviously is the most popular. I'm gonna give that first.

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Speaker 1: But there's two ways. Number One, on the left hand

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Speaker 1: side of a URL, there's like a little option button

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Speaker 1: and it says viewsite information. Now. You can tap that

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Speaker 1: and it will give you all the information for that

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Speaker 1: one website. Right It says, right now, I'm on Google

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Speaker 1: dot com. It says connection is secure. I've got location

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Speaker 1: turned on, microphone turned on, third party signed in turned off,

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Speaker 1: and then I've got cookies and site data. So the

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00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: main thing when you're clearing out the information for a

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Speaker 1: website is that cookies and site data. So for those

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Speaker 1: that may not know, when you log into a website,

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Speaker 1: that website leaves what's called a cookie on your browser,

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Speaker 1: and that cookie says, we've already authenticated Brian. We know

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Speaker 1: that he's logged in here before. We're gonna save either

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Speaker 1: his username or his username and his password, so next

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Speaker 1: time he comes here, we're just gonna log in for him.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what enables you to stay logged in

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Speaker 1: on a website. And some websites keep these pretty much

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Speaker 1: indefinitely like your email. Some clear them out pretty much

854
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Speaker 1: within a certain amount of time, like your bank account

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Speaker 1: is going to log you out no matter what. So

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Speaker 1: if you want to find that information, it'll say inside

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Speaker 1: that little site data it says cookies and site data.

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Speaker 1: Click there and it says manage on device site data

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Speaker 1: and you can go in there and just delete the

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Speaker 1: individual cookies for that website. And so all of these

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Speaker 1: cookies for Google, if I deleted them right now, I

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Speaker 1: would be logged out of my Google account. So I

863
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Speaker 1: don't want to do that now. The other way is

864
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: to go into settings. And if you go into you know,

865
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: you press the little settings it's the three dots up

866
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: a right hand corner, or you can go into your

867
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: menu on your browser, whatever one you have, go into

868
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: settings and you'll see under Privacy and Security it should

869
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: say third party cookies, and then if you scroll down,

870
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: you should see a list of all of the sites

871
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: that are allowed to have these third party cookies. So

872
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: I've got a whole bunch of them online, and you

873
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: can go in there and where it says see all

874
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: site data and permissions. Now I've got a list of

875
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: every single website I've ever visited and the cookie that

876
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: they saved, And so you can go by most visited,

877
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Speaker 1: or you can search. So let's see if I've got

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00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: SOCl gas online. Sure enough, I do, so I can

879
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: go in there my account soacal gas, and I can

880
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: delete just those cookies. But again, if you want that

881
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: information for something like a Firefox you said you use,

882
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: or an opera very similar, it's the same thing. Just

883
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Speaker 1: click the padlock to the left of the website address

884
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: in the address bar, clear cookies and site data. That

885
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: will get it cleared for just that website. But again,

886
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: you're looking for the cookies and site data for just

887
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: the individual sites, not all of your websites that you're on.

888
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: So they all let you do this, And Brian, it's

889
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: a good question because it's very frustrating when these tech

890
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: support folks tell you, oh yeah, just clear your browser history,

891
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: and you realize you got to sit there and log

892
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: into every website afterwards. Half the people don't even know

893
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: they're a lot lugins for their websites. Use a password manager,

894
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: by the way, make that process a lot easier. I'll

895
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: put links to some of this information on the website.

896
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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV, all right, coming up, I

897
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: promised the Gmail feature that lets you unsubscribe from newsletters

898
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: in bulk. I'll tell you how to access that coming

899
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: up right here on rich on Tech. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Kelly in Los Angeles. Kelly, you're on with rich Hello.

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00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 9: Yes, having a problem with my light cell phone. I've

902
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 9: been trying to charge it. I noticed that it kind

903
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 9: of goes very hot to the touch, but for some

904
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Speaker 9: reason it is not charging and I get it to

905
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 9: come on. I can't tell if the batteries bet or

906
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 9: if it's just totally drain of sales energy and just

907
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 9: taking extra long time to charge up. Want to see

908
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 9: if you can help me to guide me.

909
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Speaker 1: Well, it's an Android phone. How long have you had it?

910
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: And what brand?

911
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 9: It's an off brand? Are you a brand? I've had

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00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 9: it for about maybe five months?

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Speaker 1: Oh five months. I've not heard of that brand. What's it?

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Speaker 1: What's it called?

915
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 9: Artie is very off brand, one of the cheap beasts.

916
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Speaker 1: Where did you get to it?

917
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, my first inkling is that this so it's

919
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: not turning on at all.

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Speaker 9: It's not turning on at all. At first I had

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Speaker 9: two percent, and then I tried to charge it for

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Speaker 9: a period of time, probably more than three or four hours.

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Speaker 9: I never came back on. It did get hot with

924
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Speaker 9: the touch. I changed different chargers, chargers with not the

925
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 9: charging unit itself. I don't know the problem with the

926
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Speaker 9: charging port and what, but for some reason it's not charging.

927
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Speaker 9: It's completely black.

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Speaker 4: It won't turn on, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I was going to say, I'm assuming since this

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Speaker 1: is a cheapie it does not support wireless charging. Is

931
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Speaker 1: that true.

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00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 9: I'm not sure about that, okay.

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Speaker 1: Because I was going to say, because you know a

934
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Speaker 1: lot of times when when these phones, if they won't charge,

935
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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes the port gets wet or something like that,

936
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Speaker 1: you can use the wireless charging on the back, and

937
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Speaker 1: that way you can get around that. It sounds to

938
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Speaker 1: me for your situation now, typically when a phone goes dead,

939
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Speaker 1: when it gets down to two percent and then zero,

940
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Speaker 1: it does take a little bit longer for it to

941
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Speaker 1: come back to life because your phone is gonna you know,

942
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Speaker 1: it's gonna take a little bit for that battery to

943
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: get to a place where the phone is going to

944
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Speaker 1: want to turn on. But you're telling me the phone's

945
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Speaker 1: getting hot. When that's happening and it's not coming back on,

946
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Speaker 1: and you've left it on the charger for three to

947
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Speaker 1: four hours. So it sounds to me, do you have

948
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: a different cable to try.

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Speaker 9: I do, try a different title, But I do have

950
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 9: one of those plug in little deals where you can

951
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 9: take the battery out and stick it in the plug

952
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 9: in device. I forgot about that, so I don't have

953
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 9: to charge this from the phone. I could put it

954
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Speaker 9: in nets that would device and try to keep that charge.

955
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I would do. Is so if you

956
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: can pop this battery off the back of the phone,

957
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: put it on that device, let it charge up for

958
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. But if the battery is getting hot,

959
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: or if it's swelling or anything like that, you do

960
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: want to be careful because it could be a bad battery,

961
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: could have a bad selling there. So I would either

962
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: try to take this back to where you got it

963
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: and see what's going on, or you can take it

964
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Speaker 1: to a place like you break I fixed, they can

965
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: do a quick assessment for free to see what's going on.

966
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: But if this thing is, you know, a very inexpensive phone,

967
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Speaker 1: it just may be that it's just not very good.

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00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: So good question, Kelly. It sounds like you went through

969
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: all the proper steps of trying a different power adapter,

970
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: trying a different cable, letting it cool down. The only

971
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: other thing I can say is maybe a little blast

972
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: of canned air inside the power port, just to see

973
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: if there's anything that's blocking it or anything that's caught

974
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: up in there. Sometimes you got your phone in your

975
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: purse or your phone in your pocket. It has a

976
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: tendency to collect some items in that power port, maybe

977
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: lint or dust, kind of like a belly button. You know,

978
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: you might have a little little lint in there thanks

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Speaker 1: to the call Kelly eighty eight rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: I have not heard of that brand of phone. Are

982
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: you cell phone? Let's see? Yeah, that's a okay, wow,

983
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, this this is I do see

984
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: the brand. Okay, the Arida you can get on Amazon

985
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: for thirty bucks or sorry, eBay for thirty dollars. So

986
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: it is a brand. I just never heard of it.

987
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: Gmail is rolling out a new feature now, I say

988
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: rolling out. Go to your phone, check to see if

989
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: you have it. If you don't, don't send me the

990
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: angry emails. It is rolling out, and Google has a

991
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: tendency of taking their time when they roll out these

992
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: features on my phone. I've got it on both my

993
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: iPhone and Android, so it is out there. But it's

994
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: called Manage Subscriptions, and so this is a way that

995
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: you can clean up your inbox. It'll show you all

996
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: of your subscriptions and promotional newsletters and senders in one place.

997
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: So to find this see if you have it, open

998
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: up your Gmail app, tap the menu icon on the

999
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: left hand side, scroll down right under your trash. You

1000
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: will see a new option that says manage subscriptions. You

1001
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: tap that, it will give you a list of all

1002
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: of your subscriptions, listed in order of how many times

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00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: are emailing you per month or week or whatever. The

1004
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: top one is at the top. And then you can

1005
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: just tap the little icon of the envelope to the

1006
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: right and it says unsubscribed. You want to stop getting

1007
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: messages from this mailing list. You tap it and it

1008
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: will help you unsubscribe to that. So a nice easy

1009
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: way to do it rolling out on Android, iOS and

1010
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: the web. So again, Gmail, Manage Subscriptions. Look for it

1011
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: in the left hand menu where you would find your inbox,

1012
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: your stard your important emails. It'll say right under trash,

1013
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: manage subscriptions. If you don't have it, check again later.

1014
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: This is rolling out on Gmail, but a nice helpful

1015
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: way to help you get rid of some of that

1016
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: clutter inside your email inbox. All right, eighty to eight

1017
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to

1018
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Coming up, we are going

1019
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: to talk about Google, Meta Uber, all these anti trust

1020
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: trials and what they mean for you. Coming up right

1021
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: here on rich on tech. If you're following the news,

1022
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: a lot of big company, a lot of big tech

1023
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: companies on trial with the government, anti trust, all kinds

1024
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: of allegations and things happening, So here to talk about that.

1025
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: Justin Hendricks, CEO and founder of Tech Policy Press, Welcome

1026
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: to the show. Justin, Thank you for having me. So

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00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: you follow this stuff quite closely. Based on the name

1028
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: of your website, Tech Policy Press. A lot of people

1029
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: thought that this new administration would be a little easier

1030
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: on some of these big tech companies, but that's definitely

1031
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: not something we're seeing right now. Huh.

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 10: We certainly haven't seen it with regard to competition and

1033
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 10: antitrust quite yet. And you know, whether some of the

1034
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 10: kind of support that some of the big tech CEOs

1035
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 10: have shown for the Trump administration will ultimately, you know,

1036
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 10: pay off as some people had expected it might. We'll see,

1037
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 10: you know, there's still time for intervention. But yeah, you're right,

1038
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 10: there seem to be cases moving ahead and new cases brewing.

1039
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean cases moving ahead because a lot of

1040
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: these are already like this Google case. So I think

1041
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: it was last year where the anti trust trial they

1042
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: basically recommended that Google had like a search monopoly and

1043
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: they want, you know, and they still want they're still

1044
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: pushing them to get rid of Chrome or there. That

1045
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: may be one of the things kind of catch us

1046
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: up on what's happening with Google, like are they are

1047
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: they worried you think at this.

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Speaker 10: Point, Yeah, well, you you know, you started by asking

1049
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 10: about the Trump administration. It's important to point out that

1050
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 10: this particular case against Google did start in twenty twenty

1051
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 10: under the Trump administration. Of Justice Department in State sued

1052
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 10: Google over its dominance and online search, and you know

1053
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 10: that ruling came back last August. As you point out,

1054
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 10: Judge Meta famously wrote Google is a monopolist and it

1055
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 10: has acted as one to maintain its monopoly, essentially in

1056
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 10: violation of the Sherman Act, you know, the law that

1057
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 10: is kind of the grandaddy law of all an aditrest

1058
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 10: law in the United States. And now we're in the

1059
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 10: remedies phase. It's a new trial that's all about sort

1060
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 10: of thinking through what exactly has to be done to

1061
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 10: remedy the fact that Google's monopolists.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that something will happen? I mean, you know,

1063
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting with all these tech cases. It's like tech

1064
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: changes so much in the time, Like you just said

1065
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: that this started in like twenty twenty, way before chat,

1066
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: GBT came on the scene and things like that. But

1067
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: Google still holds a lot of power over the things

1068
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: that we do online. Do you think there will be

1069
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: some sort of remedy like having to split off Google

1070
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: Chrome or something like that.

1071
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 10: Well, it's too hard to say exactly what's going to happen.

1072
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 10: And Google still can you know, essentially appeal the ruling

1073
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 10: and then you know, ultimately that would take things back

1074
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 10: to the square one. We'd have to kind of think

1075
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 10: through the remedies process again. But is on the line

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Speaker 10: potentially that you know, Google would be kind of broken

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Speaker 10: up in.

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Speaker 1: Some interesting ways.

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Speaker 10: As you say, you know, Google has an enormous amount

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Speaker 10: of power over the consumer experience of the Internet, over

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Speaker 10: the ways that publishers, you know, access the market, the

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Speaker 10: way that people even build their own websites in order

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Speaker 10: to structure information primarily so that Google will turn that

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Speaker 10: information up in search results. So when you start to

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Speaker 10: tinkle with Google, the tinker with Google, you really potentially

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Speaker 10: are doing some fairly fundamental things that people will see

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Speaker 10: have an effect in the way that they interact with technology.

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Speaker 10: That could be through search, it could be through their

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Speaker 10: mobile operating system, it could be through just simply the

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Speaker 10: choice to use an alternative product.

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Speaker 1: I was reading this morning on the Verge about this

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Speaker 1: whole Motorola came out with some new phones and I

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Speaker 1: guess they wanted to use Perplex as the uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the AI of choice, and basically they were scared to

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Speaker 1: do so because Google is like kind of what they

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Speaker 1: were painting the picture a little bit of a bully,

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Speaker 1: you know. They say, look, you can change the assistant

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Speaker 1: on the phone, but we'd like you to keep it

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Speaker 1: as Gemini or else. And so it's all this kind

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Speaker 1: of behind the scenes stuff that happens that you know,

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Speaker 1: when you log you know, you just you fire up

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Speaker 1: a fresh Android phone and Gemini's on there. You're like,

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Speaker 1: oh cool, But then we we heard in this trial

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Speaker 1: that they pay Samsung a lot of money to be

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Speaker 1: the default on the Samsung phone. So do you think

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Speaker 1: consumers understand all this stuff that's happening in the background

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Speaker 1: that these tech companies do to stay dominant.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably the most serious

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Speaker 10: situation or contention here in this particular case is the

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Speaker 10: amount of money that's being spent. You know, the DJ

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Speaker 10: says Google spent twenty six billion dollars in twenty twenty

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Speaker 10: one across all of its default contracts. Mentioned Samsung, you know,

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Speaker 10: receive somewhere between one one and a half billion for

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Speaker 10: preloading Chrome Google Play on its handsets. And and yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's been very interesting, you know, so far in this

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Speaker 10: trial to see some of the folks that have come

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Speaker 10: forth to testify who would like to, you know, get

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Speaker 10: a crack at that search market. And you mentioned Perplexity.

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Speaker 10: You know, another one that was represented this week was

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Speaker 10: was open Ai.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 10: You know, both both those companies would very much like

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Speaker 10: to become default search engines for consumers. You had Chatchipt's

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Speaker 10: head of products essentially there to say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 10: if Chrome's for sale, we buy it. Perplexity said the

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Speaker 10: same thing so very much, you know, trying to challenge

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Speaker 10: the status quw And if something does happen and Chrome

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Speaker 10: is kind of forced to be divested, there would certainly

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Speaker 10: be buyers lined.

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Speaker 1: Up and a big shift. I mean that's you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I use Chrome, I really like it, but

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Speaker 1: it's you know, they had the head of Chrome testify about,

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Speaker 1: you know, how integrated Chrome is with Google Services, and

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Speaker 1: of course, I mean, look, it's all of these companies

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Speaker 1: want you to use everything. It's like these silos are

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Speaker 1: becoming harder and harder to break free from as a consumer.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Meta. What happened with them? Because

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Speaker 1: they had this big trial where the government was saying

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Speaker 1: that they bought Instagram basically just to keep it I guess,

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Speaker 1: not to make it grow as much or something. What

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Speaker 1: happened with them?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So again another suit that started in the final

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Speaker 10: days of the Trump administration, the FTC suit Facebook and

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Speaker 10: December of twenty twenty, basically alleging that the company had

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Speaker 10: maintained a monopoly over the personal social networking market and

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Speaker 10: that definition that market definition is actually something that's sort

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Speaker 10: of you know, important in this trial and is under discussion.

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Speaker 10: But this idea essentially that meta Mark Zuckerberg, they bought

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Speaker 10: Instagram in order to prevent it from competing with their

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00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 10: monopoly over that market. And that's the contention here. Whether

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Speaker 10: that's the case will be what's determined in this trial.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. What do you find interesting about all this stuff

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Speaker 1: covering it at Tech Policy Press?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, I'll just say one more word on

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Speaker 10: this one. You know, it's also interesting to see, you know,

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Speaker 10: who's taking the stand, you know, Mark Zuckerberg himself, you

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Speaker 10: know who prefers not to take the stand.

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Speaker 11: In Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: He's a regular there. He is a regular, you know,

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Speaker 1: and on the stand in at parties now.

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Speaker 10: Apparently, and I understand also is possibly building a home

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Speaker 10: there or buying a home there maybe given.

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Speaker 1: How much time he is spending in Washington.

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Speaker 10: But I think one of the most interesting things that

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Speaker 10: happened this week was when Kevin Sistrom, who's one of

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Speaker 10: the co founders of Instagram, testified on Tuesday. Yeah, he

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Speaker 10: let loose, He let loose, and I suspect people were

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Speaker 10: not happy. And then low Park, you know, He said

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Speaker 10: that essentially, Mark I was not investing in Instagram because

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Speaker 10: he believed it was a threat to Meta's growth at

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Speaker 10: at that time Facebook. Of course, he testified for over

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Speaker 10: six hours, and I suspect that, you know, any eventual

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Speaker 10: decision there will be some reference to the points he raised.

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Speaker 1: And that was the first time he really kind of

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Speaker 1: spoke out. We knew there was some behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: stuff going on when those two founders of Instagram left

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Speaker 1: Facebook after they were acquired, but they never really gave

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Speaker 1: their reasoning. And that was a great interview or if

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Speaker 1: you're following that trial, some really interesting information about coming

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Speaker 1: out from there. All right, justin we're going to leave

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Speaker 1: it there. Founder of Tech Policy Press. The website is

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Speaker 1: tech policy dot Press. Thanks for joining me today, Rich

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Speaker 1: you all right, coming up. We'll take some more of

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Speaker 1: your questions at triple eight Rich one on one. That's

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Speaker 12: Hey Rich, great show. Subscribe to your news letter.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that.

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Speaker 12: Okay, I have a question. I have what do you

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Speaker 12: recommend as an alternative? I have an Apple iPad, but

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Speaker 12: obviously the pens are more expensive the Apple pants. You

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Speaker 12: do you recommend an alternative, that's a that's a good

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Speaker 12: stylust PM for it. I've tried the ones on Amazon

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Speaker 12: that you charge them up, but you know sometimes they

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Speaker 12: lag and not very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that is basically the reality you're looking at. Now,

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Speaker 1: are you you're looking for an alternative? So we got

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: to start with the pricing of the Apple pencil or

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Speaker 1: the pro Are you going for the regular or the

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Speaker 1: pro model?

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Speaker 12: Well, actually I didn't know there was a pro model.

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Speaker 12: What's the difference?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so the pro so the standard is is

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Speaker 1: eighty dollars, the pro model is one thirty. And the

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Speaker 1: difference is the iPads that they work on, you know,

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Speaker 1: one there's a whole list of the different iPads that

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Speaker 1: they work on, and then the feature. So the main

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Speaker 1: advantages of the pro is that you get more pressure sensitivity,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it responds more to pressure, and then

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Speaker 1: you get a whole bunch of other things like double

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Speaker 1: tap to change tools. The squeeze. You can squeeze the pencil,

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Speaker 1: so it gives you, you know, options when you do

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Speaker 1: that haptic feedback, so it actually vibrates to let you

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Speaker 1: know when you've done something Find My which is you know,

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01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: you can find the Apple pencil and the find My

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Speaker 1: app when something goes wrong. Now, like you said, this

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Speaker 1: is expensive. Both of these Apple pencils, you know, the

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Speaker 1: standard one's eighty dollars, the upper one, the pro is

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Speaker 1: one thirty. So my question is when researching these alternatives,

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Speaker 1: you know they have to be significantly deeper than those

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01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: prices because you are going to lose out on all

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Speaker 1: of that Apple functionality. Like you said, you've tried some

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Speaker 1: of these cheapis on Amazon, and yeah, they might work

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Speaker 1: as a stylust, but there's gonna be a lot of lag.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have that deep integration with the Apple ecosystem,

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Speaker 1: which is what you know Apple is so famous for. Now,

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Speaker 1: with that said, there is only one stylus that Apple

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Speaker 1: themselves sort of promotes and has had featured over the years,

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Speaker 1: and that is the Logitech Crayon. Now, as the name implies,

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Speaker 1: this might be more like you know, a kid sort

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Speaker 1: of device. It doesn't have to be used for kids,

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Speaker 1: but it's just kind of a bigger, thicker stylus for

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Speaker 1: the iPad. But the thing is that is seventy dollars

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01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: now unless and it's also lightning so they have not

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Speaker 1: updated that in a long time. So that's number one.

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Speaker 1: Then if you look at something like zag, Zag has

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Speaker 1: what's called the pro Stylust two and this is compatible

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Speaker 1: with all iPads from twenty eighteen to present.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 1: I like zag products a lot. They're usually very high quality,

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01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: same company as Mophi, and they make you know, the

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Speaker 1: screen protectors and cases and things like that. But this

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01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: stylus is eighty dollars. So again, if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: save money, if you're going with that standard Apple pencil

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: at eighty dollars, it's gonna be the same price. So

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Speaker 1: you'd have to be going with that Apple Pencil Pro

1250
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: which is one thirty to save you fifty dollars. But again,

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: you're not going to get all those features. So this

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: is going to do a bunch of the things that

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Speaker 1: you need, but it's not going to be as sort

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Speaker 1: of integrated with the iPad os as these other uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Apple made pencils. Will be then you have Finally,

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Speaker 1: the third option is the ad donnit A D O

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Speaker 1: N I T S E two. So the AD donnit. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: there's one more option after this, but the add donnit.

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Speaker 1: I've not tested it, but just checking some of the

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Speaker 1: reviews on Amazon, they don't get the best reviews and

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Speaker 1: it's got that flag of frequently returned product. Amazon has

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Speaker 1: been adding this banner to certain pages on on products

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: that are returned a lot, and so that's kind of

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Speaker 1: like an you know, hey, you might not want to

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Speaker 1: get this because a lot of these things get returned,

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: and so that's just a little way of letting you know,

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: like if you don't want to deal with a headache

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01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: this thing. Most people have found that it doesn't work

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: the way they think it does. With all that said,

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Speaker 1: there is one that actually gets good reviews, and I'd

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Speaker 1: probably recommend trying it out, even though I have not tested.

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: It comes from ESR, which is a pretty good budget

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: maker of accessories and gadgets, and they have the Digital

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Speaker 1: Pencil which works from twenty eighteen models to twenty five

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Speaker 1: models of the twenty twenty five models of the Apple iPad,

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Speaker 1: and it is just thirty dollars, it's got a decent

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Speaker 1: number of reviews, it's got four and a half stars,

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01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: does not have that flag of you know, frequently returned product,

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: and so that's probably the one that I would check

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Speaker 1: out first. You can order it from Amazon, easily return

1281
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: it if it doesn't work. But that's probably the top

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Speaker 1: all alternative that I would go with versus the standard

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Speaker 1: Apple pencil or Apple Pencil Pro. So you're talking thirty

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Speaker 1: dollars versus eighty or one hundred and thirty, So it's

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01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: significant savings if it works for you. If you just

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Speaker 1: need something that's going to circle documents, highlight things, stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, it's probably going to be your best bet.

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Speaker 1: No wireless charging on that one. It does have a

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Speaker 1: plug in, so just be aware of that. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is if you're doing art on the iPad, I'd

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Speaker 1: probably recommend the Apple pencil the models made by Apple,

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Speaker 1: because those are going to give you the best options

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Speaker 1: and the most compatibility with the iPad. Walter, great question

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Speaker 1: over there in Temecula. I know this happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: People like to buy things that are cheaper on Amazon,

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Speaker 1: and you realize that, you know, especially with Apple stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of their stuff unless it's sold

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Speaker 1: in the Apple Store. It might work, it's just not

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Speaker 1: going to be as good, and so you're not going

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Speaker 1: to get that great experience and then you're going to

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Speaker 1: be complaining about doesn't work. So but try the ESR one.

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Speaker 1: I think that one looks the best out of all

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Speaker 1: of those cheap alternatives or budget alternatives to the standard

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Speaker 1: Apple pencil. Great question, Walter, Thanks for listening, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for subscribing to the newsletter. If you want to get

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Speaker 1: in on that, just go to the website rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot TV, pop in your email address, and I

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Speaker 1: send it out once a week typically, and it's pretty

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Speaker 1: much my brain to your inbox. It's kind of all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that I find throughout the week or things

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Speaker 1: I want to comment on in the tech world, just

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Speaker 1: like this show, except I guess the print version of that.

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Speaker 1: All right, couple items of note. Meta has launched a

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Speaker 1: new video editing app. It's called edits, So if you

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Speaker 1: want an alternative to TikTok's cap cut, you can download

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Speaker 1: edits for iOS and Android and it's basically free. You

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Speaker 1: do have to sign in with Instagram, but you can

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Speaker 1: make your Instagram videos and stories look good. That includes caption.

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Speaker 1: So again, it's called edits. You can search it up.

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Speaker 1: It's available for free for iPhone and Android. Let you

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Speaker 1: edit your video for free. TV TV dot Garden this

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Speaker 1: is a website that lets you stream live TV from

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Speaker 1: around the world. You can tap random channel to discover

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Speaker 1: something new, or you can just search a country. They've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of channels on there, including a lot

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Speaker 1: of like news channels, sports channels, no sign up required

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Speaker 1: channels have there's news, there's sports, there's cooking, there's movies,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff from over one hundred countries. And

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Speaker 1: if you're saying, like rich, why are recommending this sketchy website, No,

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Speaker 1: it is legit. Like they're they're just collecting all of

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Speaker 1: these free streams that they find around the world and

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Speaker 1: putting it into one directory. So again, TV dot Garden.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice clean interface. It's not cluttered. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna find like, you know, the latest sports game, like

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Speaker 1: the big NFL games that people find online, you know,

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Speaker 1: on these bootleg sites, but you're gonna find like the

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Speaker 1: legitimate stuff that is streaming. And finally found this this week.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for an alternative to Grammarly, there's a chrome.

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Speaker 1: There's a plug in for all the brows called language Tool,

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: and uh, Grammarly for me, it was just getting a

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Speaker 1: little bit overbearing. It was like giving me too many suggestions,

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01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: trying to change too many things. All I want is

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Speaker 1: basic spell check when I'm writing, and so, uh, letter

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Speaker 1: tool is free, it's open source, and it's available for Windows,

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Speaker 1: Mac everything pretty much. And yes there is a paid version,

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Speaker 1: but the free version is working for me just fine.

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Speaker 1: So I'll keep you up to date on whether I

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Speaker 1: like that or not. But so far, so good. Language

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Speaker 1: Tool is uh. Language tool. Dot org is where you

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Speaker 1: All that linked up on the website rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. Back after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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Speaker 1: triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. Phone lines are open.

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Speaker 1: Website rich on Tech dot tv on social media. You

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Speaker 1: guessed it at rich on Tech. Like I said, I

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Speaker 1: was in New York this week, went to dinner and

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Speaker 1: the restaurant we went to. I've got this little system

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Speaker 1: for picking restaurants, by the way, so I look for

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Speaker 1: my hotel is any anytime going out, I just go

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Speaker 1: to you gotta go. You gotta do this on a desktop.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work on your phone for some reason. But

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Speaker 1: if you go to Google Maps and then you search

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Speaker 1: for where you're staying, right so no matter where you are,

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Speaker 1: let's just say you're at a hotel, I'll just pick

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Speaker 1: one down downtown and then you'll see once you search

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Speaker 1: for that place, you'll see at the top of Google

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Speaker 1: Maps it says nearby hotels, restaurants, things to do, bars, coffee.

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Speaker 1: Now they've got some of these options on the phone,

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Speaker 1: but they just don't work the same. So what I

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Speaker 1: do is tap restaurants, and I typically want a place

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Speaker 1: I can walk to, and so I will look. As

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Speaker 1: soon as you tap restaurants, then you've got this thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes down at the bottom, you've got walking or driving.

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Speaker 1: So I will choose fifteen minutes as my maximum walking time.

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Speaker 1: And then you go to your filters. And so if

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Speaker 1: you really want something that's like highly rated four point five,

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Speaker 1: that's not like those are the ratings like a generalized

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Speaker 1: rating that people give it, not like there's no traditional

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Speaker 1: like zagit or whatever. This is just like an aggregated score.

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Speaker 1: So four point five is pretty good, Like not many

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Speaker 1: restaurants get that. So if you want to find the

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Speaker 1: places that people go to, you can tap that and

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Speaker 1: then you can go to all filters and you can say,

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Speaker 1: you know how many dollars signs you want the cuisine

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Speaker 1: you want. But typically once you have that list of restaurants,

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Speaker 1: now you've got restaurants that are within fifteen minutes walking distance,

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Speaker 1: and then you can look at the number of ratings

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Speaker 1: they have, So anything that's got like in the thousands,

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Speaker 1: people are going to that place a lot, and then

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Speaker 1: you can just kind of narrow down from there. It's

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Speaker 1: it's just a very easy way to sort of narrow

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Speaker 1: down some of the popular places near you instead of

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Speaker 1: trying to search through all these different things find the

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Speaker 1: place or look through reviews and that. But this is

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Speaker 1: just my easy go to way and it usually works

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Speaker 1: every single time. It works. The other way to do

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Speaker 1: it is on Yelp. If you just want somewhere that's

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Speaker 1: really popular, you could just open up the Yelp app

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Speaker 1: and then just sort. You can tap restaurants and then

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Speaker 1: sort by most reviewed, and that basically gives you, like

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Speaker 1: the They may not be the best restaurants. You'll still

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Speaker 1: have to use your your judgment to figure out which

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Speaker 1: one you want to go to. But those are like

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Speaker 1: the places that are most visited, most reviewed, most talked about.

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Speaker 1: And that's just you know, again, if you're in town,

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Speaker 1: if you've got friends and all that stuff, like, sure,

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Speaker 1: ask them for a recommendation. But if you're just in

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Speaker 1: town for one night, you want to find a decent place.

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 1: Those two systems that I use pretty much work every time. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that led us to our restaurant that we went to.

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Speaker 1: It was called a Piccora Bianca and nice place. It

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Speaker 1: was packed the whole time. But they had this thing

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Speaker 1: on the table that I loved. And yes there's a

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Speaker 1: tech angle to this. They had a QR code on

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Speaker 1: the table that you could scan at the end of

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Speaker 1: dinner and pay your bill from your phone. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen this before at restaurants, but this was the best

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Speaker 1: implementation I've seen. Because you scan it, it was clear,

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Speaker 1: it was easy. It says do you want to pay

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Speaker 1: the full bill or do you want to pay for

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Speaker 1: just your items or do you want to split the bill.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're in one of those groups where

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, you know, saying, oh I got the I

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Speaker 1: had one less French fry, so I paid five dollars less.

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Speaker 1: Like you can say, okay, fine, everyone go to your app,

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Speaker 1: choose the things you ordered, pay for it. Now. For

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Speaker 1: our group, we had split a bunch of appetizers, and

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Speaker 1: so it was tricky to do the whole like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll pay for just what I had. So then we

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Speaker 1: just said okay, well I'll just split the bill. And

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Speaker 1: you know, there's five of us, and it said how

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Speaker 1: many people do you want to pay for? I said too,

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Speaker 1: I was paying for me and my mom, and so

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Speaker 1: divided the whole thing up. I paid for us and

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Speaker 1: I used Apple Pay and you could use Google Pay

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, and the bill was done. So I

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Speaker 1: looked up, of course, this company, it's called Sunday s

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Speaker 1: u n Day Sunday app dot com. So if you

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Speaker 1: have a restaurant, I guess my thesis here is, please

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Speaker 1: adopt this technology. It is so easy. It's so much

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: better than asking the waiter, hey, can you split the

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Speaker 1: bill or this or that, because it gives people options

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Speaker 1: on how they want to pay. Now, the only thing

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit weird about this, I took a

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Speaker 1: picture of the QR code on the table to like

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: put in my newsletter, And you can scan that QR

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Speaker 1: code at any time and kind of spy on what

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: people are ordering at that table because that QR code

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01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: is specific for that table and it's linked to their

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Speaker 1: POS system, their point of sale system, their hospitality system.

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Speaker 1: And so last night I scanned it as just a test,

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Speaker 1: and I could see all the things that people were

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Speaker 1: ordering at that table. So I guess they're not too concerned,

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: because who's going to sit there after they left a

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Speaker 1: restaurant scan this QR code again and then pay for

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Speaker 1: someone else's dinner. It's probably not going to happen. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing like nefarious you can do with that QR code.

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought that was really cool. I love

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Speaker 1: when restaurants make life easy, and I'm all about that.

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Like these restaurants they go in there and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't split the bill, or you can't do this,

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: or you can't do that. It's or I'm adding all this.

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, the new thing is all these fees they

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Speaker 1: add to the bill. This was just a nice breath

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Speaker 1: of fresh air. It was just like the way you

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Speaker 1: want to check out simple easy. I liked it all right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to let's see here Michael in Capistrano Beach.

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Speaker 1: You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I can hear you. Can you hear me, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and thank you for covering the

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: cases over there that you were talking about online. My

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Speaker 2: question was for you when you hear about the w

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Speaker 2: EF members, how he gets up and he talks about

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Speaker 2: how the humans are going to be hackable animals? What

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Speaker 2: do you think about that?

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01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: Who said this?

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, ury yea the World's Economic Forum. They say that

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Speaker 2: humans are hackable animals.

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Speaker 1: Oh, is this the guy that wrote the Sapiens book?

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Speaker 1: I think it might be because he's, uh, it looks

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: like that might be the hymn. I've read a lot

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Speaker 1: of that book, and so I did not hear this.

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: I did not hear about what he said. But you

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: know there already are you know, body hackers out there,

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Speaker 1: people that are trying to hack their own body in

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01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: different ways from a biological standpoint. But then there's the

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01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: idea of all these things like Neurolink and these companies

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: that are working on sort of add ons to our brain.

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Speaker 1: So what do I think I think it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that we are just at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: this now. I think there's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: pros for people like quadriplegics, people that have some sort

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01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: of brain damage, and people that you know, of different

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: abilities that you know might be confined to a wheelchair,

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 1: like there may be breakthroughs that will allow these people

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: to get around like regular, you know, like average human beings.

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01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: And so I think that there is good in this stuff.

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: And I was reading a whole article, I think it

1506
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: was on the plane about the original guy who got

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01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: the brain implant from Neurlink, and you know, he was

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: just talking about how it changed his life. Like he

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: the guy was just this, you know, he had a

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: regular body and all of a sudden he got into

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01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 1: I think it was a was it a car accident?

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01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: And next thing you know, you know, he's confined to

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01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and barely can move at all. And he said,

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: when they put this thing in his brain. They approached him.

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: He said it was amazing. He can move a cursor

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: on a computer. Like he said, everything that he had

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: to do with the assistance of a person, he can

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: now do a lot of this stuff by himself. Maybe

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: not moving around per se, but like just being online.

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: Like imagine that you can't move, you can't can a

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01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: mouse computer things that you were accustomed to doing, and

1522
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you can't do that anymore. How

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: frustrating it is. And so he said, things that would

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01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: take him, you know, an hour to kind of move

1525
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: or do something on the computer screen, he can now

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01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: do in seconds just by looking at it, just by

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: thinking about moving the cursor to the left or the right,

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01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: or selecting something, it happens on screen. So I think,

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, but on the flip side, once we start

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: embedding people with this technology, of course that technology is hackable,

1531
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: it is programmable. There will be, you know, people that

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01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: try to abuse this stuff. So I think that no

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01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: matter what, we are in for it. And I was

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: reading something too about cars, you know how you know,

1535
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: we think about all these cars that can do things,

1536
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: they can drive themselves, you know, security cameras on cars,

1537
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: like all this technology that's built into cars. You know,

1538
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: there are people working twenty four to seven to try

1539
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: to figure out how to hack that stuff and use

1540
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: it to their advantage in various ways. Now, stealing a

1541
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: car is one thing, but you know, can you imagine

1542
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: if all the self driving cars slam themselves into walls?

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's someone out there working on

1544
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: trying to make that happen. Because they're evil. I hope

1545
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But again, people do have to look

1546
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: into this stuff to try to patch the exploits that

1547
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: other people may find. And so there's always someone that's

1548
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: looking for the holes in this software, in the programming,

1549
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: in the hardware, no matter what, whether they're going to

1550
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: use it for good or for bad. But yeah, I mean,

1551
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: we are just at the beginning of all this stuff.

1552
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: And I talk about this a lot too, the idea

1553
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: that AI right now, we've got it. It's been you

1554
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: know what two years that we've had it, and we've

1555
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: been playing with this stuff, and everyone loves, you know,

1556
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: some of the things that CHATCHYBT and Gemini and Perplexity

1557
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: can do. But right now it is so basic. Just

1558
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: imagine when they start building this AI technology into robots,

1559
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: like I'm talking humanoid robots that many many companies are

1560
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 1: working on, like these these robots that can walk around

1561
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: and sort of think for themselves, do for themselves, act

1562
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: for themselves. So this stuff is happening. It's going to happen,

1563
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: and we need to be ready for all aspects of

1564
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: this no matter what a good movie to watch. It's

1565
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: a little little silly, and I hope I'm not giving

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01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: too much away, but it's been out for a while,

1567
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: but Companion, we sat down to watch kind of a

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: horror movie. I don't want to give away the premise,

1569
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: but just it's interesting. So again, that's kind of along

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01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: the lines of what we're looking forward to in the future.

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: Good question. Thanks for the call, Michael, appreciate it. Eighty

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01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: to eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. Coming up this hour,

1574
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to a software engineer who wrote

1575
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: a book about how social platforms really work. You are

1576
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: listening to Rich on tech. Let's go to George in

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.

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01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 14: You're on with Rich Hi Riche Okay, I got a

1579
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 14: question here. I'm having a lot of trouble, a lot

1580
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 14: of headed I'm trying to connect the wireless microphone to

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 14: my phone. It's a Galaxy A fifteen, and.

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01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 13: Somehow it's not working. I cannot connect the external microphone

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01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 13: to my phone. When I try to record a video

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01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 13: with my camera, my phone camera, it doesn't give me

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01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 13: the audio. And I try with another old phone that

1586
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 13: I have is a Galaxy S twenty, Samsung Galaxy X twenty,

1587
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 13: and it works. But I don't know why with the

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 13: Samsung Galaxy A fifteen doesn't work. And I try with

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 13: out of different phones and a tablet and somehow the

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01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 13: microphone don't work. The audio doesn't you know, doesn't connect.

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 13: I mean the external microphone doesn't connect with the tablet.

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 13: I don't know if I need a nap or I

1593
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 13: did a comparable wireless microphone. I tried with two different

1594
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 13: microphones and it's not working.

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01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, a couple of things going on here. Number one,

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01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: have you confirmed that this what what brand is? The

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: wireless microphone.

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01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 13: Is a lab label ler K thirty nine.

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01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so is it wired or wireless?

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01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: It's why?

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01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 13: Well, it's I got the wire from Risk for the receiver.

1602
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 13: I connected to the phone with a wire uh and

1603
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 13: then I had the microphone, there.

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: Are wireless okay, well number one, not every smartphone supports

1605
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: a external microphone. Now the Samsungs for sure do the

1606
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: the Pro models, the S models they do. Now the

1607
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: A models that's sort of their budget line, they may

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01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: not support. And I'm trying to confirm if they actually

1609
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: have support for an external mic, and I can't confirm

1610
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: right here, like over the air. Let's see, yeah, I

1611
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: can't can firm like if that speck is available. So

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01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: that could be the first problem. Do you know that

1613
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: this phone is compatible with an external mic?

1614
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 13: I have no idea, okay.

1615
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 1: So typically on a Samsung phone, when you plug in

1616
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: an external MIC, it will recognize it and say right

1617
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,959
Speaker 1: on the screen on your camera viewfinder, external mic connected.

1618
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: So if it is not giving you that message as

1619
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: soon as you connect that external mic, this phone may

1620
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: not be compatible. So over the years, since I do

1621
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: a lot of content creation for my TV job, I

1622
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I test a lot of smartphones over

1623
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: the years, I've found it's very hit or miss whether

1624
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: these phones support the external MIC. I know the Pixel does, obviously,

1625
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: the iPhone does, the Samsung, the high end models do.

1626
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: The One Plus can still be hit or miss, but

1627
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: nowadays usually it typically does. But this is an A

1628
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: fifteen model, which you know, if you're looking at a

1629
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: phone that's a more of a budget minded device, they

1630
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: may not build in all of those things. So what

1631
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: I would do is go online, find the specs for this.

1632
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: Make sure you can find maybe a YouTube video or

1633
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: someone that actually says, hey, this does support an external microphone.

1634
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: That's number one. That's going to save you a lot

1635
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: of headaches. The second thing to do, George, is to

1636
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,919
Speaker 1: make sure that this is compatible with or this microphone

1637
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: that you have. This setup is going to work. So

1638
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: a lot of these microphones that you find on Amazon

1639
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: sometimes are very hit or miss. I use the Dji,

1640
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: which is the kind of the gold standard for wireless microphones.

1641
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: It's expensive, but it works. It does exactly what you need,

1642
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: and it's really good. There are other brands out there

1643
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: that are cheaper that will also do it, but just

1644
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: make sure they have a lot of reviews and people

1645
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: saying that they actually work. If you want to get

1646
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: one of those cheaper brands on Amazon, like if you

1647
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: search Dji, Mike or road Wireless Mic for iPhone and

1648
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: those come up, just make sure that a lot of

1649
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: people have verified yes they do actually work. But the

1650
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: other one is the road mics. People like those. But

1651
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of these microphones on Amazon that

1652
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: you can get. Some of them are as small as

1653
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: a button.

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01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 6: You know.

1655
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: They're just they've changed the game when it comes to

1656
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: creating content on the go, because it used to be

1657
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: you had to have either something wired or not something

1658
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: very good. And now the fact that you can use

1659
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: these wireless mics is just so great. But it's all

1660
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: dependent on whether your phone actually supports it. The other

1661
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: thing you could do if your phone doesn't support it,

1662
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: you don't want to invest in a new mic. You

1663
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: don't want to invest in a new phone. A lot

1664
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: of these microphones will record into themselves, so they will

1665
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: actually have built in memory on the microphone. You can

1666
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: press record. You can record the audio separate from the

1667
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: video and then use an app like Final Cut to

1668
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: sync those up. So that's what we'll do. If we

1669
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: have a problem with the audio or it's not embedded

1670
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: on the video, we'll just sync it up later. So

1671
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: that's another option where you can just record the audio

1672
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: separate from the video, bring it into an editing program.

1673
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Like final cut or premiere, and then synchronize the audio

1674
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: to the video. I mean, that's what they used to

1675
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: do in Hollywood with that clapboard. You know, they always

1676
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: recorded audio separate, so they use that clapboard to sync

1677
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: it up. All right, good question, George. Something to look

1678
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: out for on your smartphones if you are going to

1679
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: be creating content because those wireless mics, I call it

1680
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: the best invention of the last decade for me. They're

1681
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: just so handy. Coming up, we are going to talk

1682
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: to Tim O'Hearn. He is a author of Framed. He's

1683
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: got a new take on how social platforms really work.

1684
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: That's up next. Welcome back to rich on tech rich

1685
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology the website

1686
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: for the show richon tech dot TV. Joining me now

1687
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,919
Speaker 1: is Tim O'Hearn, a software engineer and author of Framed,

1688
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: A villain's perspective on social Media. Thanks for joining me, Tim.

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01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 11: Thanks Rich, Thanks for having me on.

1690
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: So what's your background and what made you write this book.

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 8: I'm a software engineer and I spent most of my twenties,

1692
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 8: so the last ten years I spent working in quantitative trading.

1693
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 8: During my first year second year on the job, I

1694
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 8: was approached by some people involved in the New York

1695
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 8: City nightlife industry who told me that they had a

1696
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 8: business that they were using to make money by getting

1697
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 8: people more followers on Instagram. They needed someone to help

1698
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 8: build up the business and help scale it up. And

1699
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 8: that's when my involvement began in twenty seventeen.

1700
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: And so you got involved with basically selling what bots

1701
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: and things like trying to get like people on Instagram

1702
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: and social media. They want a lot of followers because

1703
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: it looks like they have a lot of influence, so

1704
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times she will buy those.

1705
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 11: Yeah. So really our service was in the second wave.

1706
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 8: I call this the organic growth phase, So it was

1707
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 8: one step removed from people just paying twenty dollars for

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01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 8: five thousand followers. The bots I created would actually log

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Speaker 8: into a customer's account and then act as if they

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 8: were the customer. So this allowed things to grow more

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 8: organically and for it to see less like a bot

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01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,839
Speaker 8: and more like a human actually taking the actions.

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Speaker 1: Ah, so they would sort of like maybe like things,

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: comment on things, reply to stuff exactly. And so what

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01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: did you learn in this in this experience and why

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01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: are you telling the story.

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Speaker 8: Now, during this time, there was a lot of i

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01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 8: would say, unspoken facts and unspoken truths about the dark

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01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 8: side of social media. So some things that have come

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01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 8: to light is regarding how social networks actually enforce their

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01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 8: policies and what it means to commit terms of service

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 8: violation on a social media site. So in the early days,

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Speaker 8: which I would say twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, we found

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01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 8: that we were learning so much about the underside, about

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 8: all the rule breakers and this spectrum of enforcement, realizing

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01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 8: that of course these social media platforms don't want people

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 8: spamming and don't want people being disrupted, but we actually

1728
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 8: found that we were less of a priority compared to

1729
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 8: the people actually doing really bad, really illegal stuff.

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 11: So for a while we.

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01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 8: Had this reprieve where we just weren't the biggest priority,

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01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 8: and during that time we proliferated.

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Speaker 1: Why because these social media platforms want.

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01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 8: To grow, definitely, they want to grow, and they're just

1735
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 8: worried about ultimately reactive you know, reactive moves here. They're

1736
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 8: worried about having to speak in front of Congress, you know,

1737
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 8: they're worried about these bombshell articles coming from the New

1738
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 8: York Times, and until twenty late twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen,

1739
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 8: nobody was talking about followers in that same way, you know,

1740
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 8: they were talking about other types of illicit activities going

1741
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 8: on on social media.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think the average consumer needs to

1743
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 1: know about all this stuff at this point?

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Speaker 8: At this point, I think what the book communicates is

1745
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 8: that there's a very awkward relationship between users platforms and

1746
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 8: then platform stakeholders. People don't realize that, you know, using

1747
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 8: a platform for free, you are the product. So you

1748
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 8: are the person who is you know, helping out this

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01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 8: advertising vehicle, or you are the person who investors are

1750
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 8: looking to en mass to actually increase the value of

1751
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,799
Speaker 8: a platform. So there are all these awkward, like weird

1752
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 8: symbiotic relationships between each one of these groups that aren't

1753
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 8: obvious to someone who's being beckoned to sign up for

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 8: a social media service to begin with.

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Speaker 1: So what a consumers do I mean? What I mean,

1756
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: does it change the way that we use these services

1757
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: or should we be on guard when we use them

1758
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: or what?

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01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 8: As more things have developed on social media, I think

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01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 8: that there are concerns not just in our own usage habits,

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01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 8: but the effects that the platforms are having on our

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01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 8: emotional state and how we receive and process information. When

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01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 8: I started using my Space in two thousand and six

1764
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 8: or two thousand and seven, as as ridiculous as the

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01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 8: experience was, it was actually quite pure.

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01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 11: And pure is probably the last.

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01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 8: Word we would use to describe Reddit or Facebook or

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 8: x or any of these platforms today. So one of

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01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 8: the solutions might simply be to spend less time on

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01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 8: it and be more aware of the consequences of heavy usage.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think these algorithms are engineered to addict us?

1772
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: I do.

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01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 8: And one interesting thing for me was after I worked

1774
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 8: at Shark Social, which was the Instagram growth company, I

1775
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 8: later worked at a small social media startup where I

1776
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 8: built these persuasive technology systems. So I built systems that

1777
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 8: tried to get users to click on certain push notifications,

1778
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 8: or tried to get users to spend more time looking

1779
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 8: at the news feed of this app. My entire job

1780
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 8: as the special projects lead was essentially to enforce and

1781
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 8: encourage addictive behaviors. So you think at scale, there are

1782
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 8: entire teams within big tech who are just trying to

1783
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 8: ratchet up those metrics a little bit more and that

1784
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,440
Speaker 8: means getting people to spend more time online.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, we already know when you open up Instagram,

1786
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: it's the equivalent of a slot machine, even down to

1787
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: the way the little note of caations appear in the

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01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: upper right hand corner with the numbers, you know, where

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01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: it says the likes, the comments, the hearts. It appears

1790
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: exactly like a Las Vegas slot machine. So what do

1791
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: we need to know for parents and kids? Because you know,

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01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm an adult, I sort of understand this stuff. I

1793
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: get what I'm up against, right, Like Instagram's goal is

1794
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,719
Speaker 1: to get me to never close Instagram in my entire life.

1795
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 1: Like that's their goal. And you can do that. The swipe,

1796
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: the reels, the stuff, it's never ending. But kids, you know,

1797
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: they're not as evolved because they're still they're still growing.

1798
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: So what do you think parents need to know about

1799
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: all this?

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Speaker 8: I support the general guidelines which are coming out from

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01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 8: countries such as Australia, which is that a child under

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01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 8: thirteen years of age has no place on social media

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 8: or any type of scrolling type of content feed because

1804
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 8: the belief is that it is harmful for the developing

1805
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 8: mind and it may be harmful in ways that we

1806
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 8: don't fully understand yet. Example I give in my book is, hey,

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01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 8: you wouldn't give a baby a cigarette, like that's a

1808
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 8: comedy skit, But we do give babies iPads. And I

1809
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 8: see it all over New York City here where tons

1810
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 8: of kids are mindlessly looking at these things because it

1811
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 8: keeps the kid entertained. But what you don't realize is

1812
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 8: that when they're looking at apps that are designed like

1813
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 8: slot machines and stuff, when it comes time to function

1814
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 8: in society or learn in the classroom sometimes, you know,

1815
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 8: schoolroom learning is not as exciting or enthralling as these experiences,

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01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 8: so it can have some absolutely terrible consequences.

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01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much much more boring compared to TikTok, which

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01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: is like even the format. I mean, I come from

1819
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: a classic news background where you know, we do news

1820
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: segments and I get it the news is not perfect,

1821
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: but you know my segments are, and so I you know,

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01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: I do things that are It's informational, you know, Yeah,

1823
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: it could be fast paced, but I mean if you

1824
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: look at something like TikTok, it's like there's a cut

1825
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: every second because people's you know, they're going to look away,

1826
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: And I've talked to TikTokers that say that they have

1827
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: to follow that format or else people scroll away if

1828
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: it's not changing fast enough. So some of this stuff

1829
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: seems to be changing the fabric of sort of our

1830
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: brains in the way that we perceive information as well.

1831
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 8: Sure, short form video is very addictive, and I think

1832
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 8: it is harmful in the way that it kind of

1833
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 8: melds and changes our expectations for what is entertaining and

1834
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 8: how things like plot lines develop. Like how many people

1835
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 8: can really sit through a movie now without thinking about, Okay,

1836
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 8: I need to go check my phone right, Like the

1837
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 8: attention span. The effect on the attention span is crazy.

1838
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 8: And this is something we saw in the early twenty tens,

1839
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 8: where like it started to come out on YouTube where

1840
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 8: you had quick cuts, quick cuts quick cuts. The first

1841
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 8: time I really saw it, I thought this is ridiculous.

1842
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,520
Speaker 8: But now, as you said, it's standard almost everywhere.

1843
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: It really is all right. The book is framed a

1844
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: villain's perspective on social media. The author is Ohearn. It's

1845
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: available now on Amazon. Did you have fun writing a book?

1846
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Because I wrote a book a couple of years ago.

1847
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: It was one of the best things I've ever done.

1848
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 11: It was a very fulfilling experience for me, and seeing

1849
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 11: the reaction to it, both from people in the press,

1850
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 11: from users, from experienced engineers, and especially from academics and researchers,

1851
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 11: it's been very meaningful for me.

1852
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, thanks for joining me today on the

1853
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,759
Speaker 1: show Tim O'Hearn once again. The book Framed a Villain's

1854
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: Perspective on Social Media, available on Amazon. I'll put a

1855
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: link on the website. Rich On Tech dot TV. All right,

1856
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: coming up, we got a couple of items of note.

1857
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: I've got a new way to chat with AI using

1858
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 1: text messaging. If you have a Pixel seven you got

1859
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: a problem with your battery, I will explain what you

1860
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: can do with that. And Netflix has a new option

1861
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: for subtitles. Plus the feedback. We are going to open

1862
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: up the feedbag coming up next on rich On Tech.

1863
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech, Rich de miro here.

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01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Apple Watch celebrates ten years this week. Ten years. I

1865
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: know I've worn worn one on my wrist almost that

1866
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: entire time, and I think it's game changing. I tell

1867
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: people a lot of times that I like the Apple

1868
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Watch better than the iPhone, just because it's always there.

1869
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: It's simple. It does what I need, tracks my workouts,

1870
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: you know. Of course you've got the rings, all these things.

1871
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: April twenty fourth, twenty fifteen, that's when the first Apple

1872
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: watches came out. I was there at the launch day.

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01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 1: They sold them at high end stores. In addition, well

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01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't trying to remember. Why was at like such

1875
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: a high end store for it. It was like a

1876
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: little boutique. Now, of course, the Apple Watch very popular now.

1877
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 1: The original Apple Watch was more about like fashion. It

1878
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: did not start out as this like really health and

1879
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: fitness focused device. But now, of course it's health, it's fitness.

1880
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: It tracks you know, all kinds of stuff except blood

1881
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: ocken because they took that away. Yeah. One of the

1882
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: features I thought was interesting back in the day. I

1883
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 1: wrote about this in my newsletter today, digital touch. Did

1884
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 1: you know? I thought they took it away, But you

1885
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: can still do it. If you go to a text message,

1886
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: press the plus sign next to the message field and

1887
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: select digital touch, and then you tap two fingers on

1888
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: your screen, it'll send your heartbeat to the other person. Yeah,

1889
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: it's called digital touch. It's really weird. I thought that

1890
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: they got rid of that. And last night when I

1891
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 1: was doing some testing, I was like, wait, that's still there.

1892
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: What news service called text ai lets you text ai.

1893
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Text dot Ai is the website. But basically you just

1894
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 1: go to the phone number and you text it and

1895
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: it works with your traditional SMS. So just text it

1896
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: and ask a question. It will text you back. No

1897
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: download required. It can help with plans, recommendations, answers, anything else.

1898
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Built by former Tesla and Walmart Labs employees. Again, the

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01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: website text dot Ai. It's free to use. They do

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01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: not sell your phone number as far as they say

1901
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: text dot ai. If you have a Google Pixel seven A,

1902
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: you got some problems to do battery maybe it's swelling

1903
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: or popping. You can get a free battery replacement. So

1904
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you got that bulging back cover your phone looks thick man?

1905
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: What am I talking about here? Rapid battery drain? You

1906
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 1: got to check eligibility online. But yes, this is the

1907
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: Pixel seven A. If you have some battery swelling, check out.

1908
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: It's called the Pixel seven A Extended Repair Program. I'll

1909
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: put the link on the website. AT and T is

1910
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: adding cruise ship coverage to its International day Pass, so

1911
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: the International day Pass now works on cruise ships twenty

1912
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: dollars per day, so it's pricey, but you know, if

1913
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: you're on a cruise, you know it's like one free drink.

1914
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I guess twenty bucks you saved paid for this five

1915
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 1: hundred megabytes of data plus unlimited talk and text, and

1916
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: it worked on land and sea, surf and turf, so

1917
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: no extra charge when you step off. The ship covers

1918
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: more than four hundred cruise ships. Obviously they have to

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Speaker 1: be in this AT and T coverage zone to work,

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Speaker 1: and there's no data overages. So if you hit that

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Speaker 1: five hundred megabytes, which by the way, is not very

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Speaker 1: tough to hit, your speeds will slow down, but you

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Speaker 1: will stay connected. But most of the time when you

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Speaker 1: hit those data speed bumps, you're just gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to like check your email. Let's see what else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so AT and T International Day Pass it's called Man,

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Speaker 1: we're just going through a lot of notes here. MAX.

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Speaker 1: The free ride is over seven dollars and ninety nine cents.

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Speaker 1: If you have someone clinging onto your account, the extra

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Speaker 1: member add on is now available, So if you have

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Speaker 1: someone that's using your MAX log in. Yeah, remember this

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Speaker 1: is to be called HBO Max and Max and they

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Speaker 1: change the color of the logo. They're all over the place,

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm talking about. It's the service

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Speaker 1: that lets you watch HBO shows and other stuff. So

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Speaker 1: the primary account holder can now invite one friend or

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Speaker 1: family member outside their household for eight bucks a month.

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Speaker 1: If you want to pay for them, extra members get

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Speaker 1: their own login. They can stream on one device at

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Speaker 1: a time and access everything, or if you don't want

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Speaker 1: to pay for them, they can transfer their profile to

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Speaker 1: move all of their history, recommendations, and settings. This is

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Speaker 1: only available if you subscribe to Max directly, not if

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Speaker 1: you're a bundle user. But basically, the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: the free ride is over. If you've got people sharing

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Speaker 1: your password, they're going to get that screen that says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you should sign up for your own account. As far

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Speaker 1: as I can tell, you don't have to just yet,

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Speaker 1: but they're going to continue to ratchet this up until

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Speaker 1: they get all the memberships they want out of the freeloaders.

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Speaker 1: And Netflix, they have a new subtitle option. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, but in my house we watch a

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Speaker 1: lot of shows with the subtitles on, even though we

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Speaker 1: don't need to. But with all the commotion in the background,

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Speaker 1: the kids playing, Yeah, they got their iPads, all those

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Speaker 1: things going on, talking to their friends. This is just

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Speaker 1: an easy way, you know, instead of saying what they

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Speaker 1: just say, you just got the subtitles on. But Netflix

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Speaker 1: knows this, so now they've introduced a new type of

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Speaker 1: subtitle that just includes the words themselves and not the

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Speaker 1: audio cues. So your typical you know, subtitles have things

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Speaker 1: like music swells or phone buzzes. They don't have that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just the words that people are saying. So

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Speaker 1: you can see two choices, now English for dialogue only,

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Speaker 1: and then English CC if you want the full closed captions.

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Speaker 1: And this will be on every so will beyond more

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Speaker 1: shows moving forward, but right now, it's starting with the

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Speaker 1: season five of the show You, which I have not watched,

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Speaker 1: but I guess that's a popular show. Netflix says half

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Speaker 1: of viewing hours in the US already happen with subtitles on.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget you can customize the subtitles by size

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Speaker 1: and font. Some people forget that. Feedback now, Michelle writes

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Speaker 1: in after hearing us talk about the recent settlement payout

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Speaker 1: for Facebook and Zell, I thought the email I got

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Speaker 1: was spam. It said I had a forty dollars payment pending,

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Speaker 1: and it gave me a deadline to click a link.

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Speaker 1: I looked up the case and even called both the

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Speaker 1: settlement administrator and Zel. Turns out it was legit. I'd

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Speaker 1: signed up for it years ago and totally forgot. After

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Speaker 1: some hesitation, I followed through. I'm now forty dollars and

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Speaker 1: sixty seven cents richer. So if you see that Facebook

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Speaker 1: settlement through Zell, yeah, I guess you can claim it.

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Speaker 1: Just be careful because, like we know, the scam artists

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Speaker 1: will play prey upon something that's real and turn it

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Speaker 1: into something that's fake. Gail from Oakland says, is there

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Speaker 1: an easy way to turn a handwritten page of my

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Speaker 1: well formed cursive into text using my iPad pro? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Chat gbt. Take a picture of whatever you're writing and

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Speaker 1: upload it to chat GBT. It will read it and

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Speaker 1: convert it into text. It's fast and that's accurate, and

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Speaker 1: if you're saying you have good cursive, it'll be easy

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Speaker 1: to do that. Good question. Christopher from Justice Illinois writes

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Speaker 1: in is there a way to see what devices are

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Speaker 1: connected to my WiFi? Yes? There's an app called fing

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Speaker 1: fing iOS and android give you a list of all

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Speaker 1: the connected devices. Good if you think someone's freeloading on

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Speaker 1: your network. Fing dot com slash app. Liz writes in

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Speaker 1: we're all big fans of you here at work. You

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Speaker 1: make the tech talks interesting and we all learn so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Liz. I appreciate the kind words. Really do.

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Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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Speaker 1: Just go to rich on tech dot tv. If you

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Speaker 1: want to get in on the feedbag, click contact and

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Speaker 1: send me a message. You can find me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on tech. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that I mentioned here on the show I will

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Speaker 1: post there try to make them shareable for you. Went

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Speaker 1: to Disney this week and found a actually Bobo gave

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Speaker 1: me a hidden trick photospot in Disney California Adventure. So

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Speaker 1: if you're headed the California Adventure, check that out. Pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Next week, Harry Campbell, the rideshare guy, is going to

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Speaker 1: share the latest in the gig economy, robotaxis and more.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. There are so many

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Speaker 1: ways you can spend your time. I really do appreciate

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Speaker 1: you spending it right here with me. Thanks to everyone

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Speaker 1: who makes this show possible. Adam in today for Bobo,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your hard work back there, Kim on phones, and

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Speaker 1: you of course for listening. Thank you. My name is

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Speaker 1: rich Demiro. I will talk to you real soon